July 16, 2025 • 40 mins
While on vacation, Dan noted the one year mark from President Trump's shooting. After all this time, not much is known about the shooter, and Dan wants to know why, since we knew quite a bit about Lee Harvey Oswald fairly quickly.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Nights with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's and
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, welcome back everyone to the fourth and final
hour here on a Wednesday night. Pretty warm wherever you are.
We haven't had many out of state callers tonight. Actually
the only one was built from Vermont. I don't have
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anything planned this hour, which sometimes is a good thing
and sometimes is a bad thing. But during my days
off in early July, I was able to relax and
all of that, but also follow the news and as
I am wanted to do. I'm a news guy. I'm
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a news junkie. I guess whether I'm working or on vacation,
I want to know what's going on. And sometimes things
happen that intrigued me, and some of them become stories
that I actually do. But one of the things that
went on while I was on vacation was the first
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anniversary of the attempt at assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
That was the most serious situation he faced. When I
talk about Butler, Pennsylvania, I think everybody knows of what
I'm speaking about. A bullet that came very close to
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killing then candidate and then former president Donald Trump. You
saw that he did turn his head, and the assassin,
or the attempt at assassin who actually did kill another
innocent person who was there at the rally was a
twenty year old kid. His name was Thomas Matthew Crooks
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fired eighth shots from the AR fifteen style rifle while
Trump was speaking, and Trump kind of turned his head
a little bit and the bullet nicked him on the air.
But you could see he reacted to it. If you remember,
there was some concern I shouldn't say concern, but there
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was some inquisitiveness about was that really a bullet and
all of that, and yeah it was, I mean it was.
If that bullet had gone I don't know, you know,
six inches four inches three inches to the right, Donald
Trump would not be alive today. And then, to compound that,
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a couple of months later, actually two months, in two days,
on September fifteenth, another event occurred where a guy named
Ryan Wesley Routh or Ruth was spotted bearing a rifle
in the shrubs near the Trump International Golf was in
West Palm Beach. I'm sure you remember that one as well.
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And there was a Secret Service officer who was Trump
was playing golf and he was about I think a
hole behind it, but he was. He was on the
tea of the hole with this guy was along the fairway.
And for those of you who are golfers, you know
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that that can be quite a distance. But if you're
riding around in a golf card, you can move a
couple of hundred yards pretty quickly. And there was a
Secret Service agent who was out in front a couple
of hundred yards and he noticed that this guy was
in there was someone in the bushes, and I guess
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he spotted the rifle and he he shot at this
guy and the guy took off and there was a
woman who who saw his car and they captured him.
So you had these two events. In the Butler, Pennsylvania events,
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there was there were two other men who were injured
and one man, a firefighter in Butler, Pennsylvania. Corey Competory
I hope I'm pronouncing his name Comparati was shot and killed.
He was someone sitting in the stands behind President Trump.
Now here's my question, and I'm hoping that some of
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you might, I don't know, give me your thoughts on this.
It's been a year since crooks fired the bullet that
almost killed Donald Trump. It's been ten months since Ryan
Ruth lay in Wait on September fifteenth, twenty twenty four,
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and I must tell you I read a lot, I
watch a lot. I don't know much about Thomas Matthew Crooks,
and I certainly don't know much about Ryan Wesley Ruth.
What I have read is that Crooks had some websites
which were pretty sophisticated websites for a twenty year old,
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pretty sophisticated websites for anyone. My question is why don't
we know more about what his motivation was, what his
background was. Normally in those situations, the media scours the
neighborhood and gets interviews with neighbors or friends or relatives
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or classmates, and generally the media does a good job.
I don't recall much interest by the national news media
about this guy's background. He's a twenty year old kid.
Think when you were twenty. He was able to get
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in a position where he was able to fire eight
shots from an AR fifteen that killed one, wounded a second,
and wounded the Republican nominee for president, This guy, Ryan
Wesley Ruth, he has an interesting background. He apparently at
one point went to Ukraine trying to raise money, I
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guess for the war with Russia. So I want to
throw this open to all of you, and maybe some
of you know more about these two would be assassins.
I really would love to hear from those of you
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who are as perplexed as me. Now I know that
even to this day, we don't know much, or we
don't know everything about Lee Harvey Oswald. There was actually
a story in the paper yesterday that now there's some
out of a CIA operative who I guess is long
since dead, who apparently finally has been outed as a
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CIA handler of Lee Harvey Oswald. Look, I would like
to think that I live in a country where we
are big enough and we're brave enough that they can
be honest with us. I don't expect the CIA or
the FBI, or in these countries companies organizations, I should
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say two tell us what their methods and practices are
and how they track people know. I'm sure there are
people who know that I don't. But a year later,
I know virtually I know virtually nothing about Thomas Matthew Crooks.
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I know more about Jared Durant, the left fielder for
the Red Sox I know more about May the quarterback
for the Patriots. I know more about Jalen Brown, the
Boston Celtics team leader. I know more about athletes, movie stars,
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individuals who are important, but not newly as important as
the guy that came within inches of changing the history
of this country. And I certainly know even less about
this guy, Ryan Wesley Ruth. So I just want to
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throw it out there. Some of you might want to
share some information, some of you may want to explain
to me why I am so naive. I don't care.
I just I'd like to discuss it worthy of foreign
countries in any way, shape or form involved in funding
these individuals, in encouraging these INDIVI visuals. I'm talking about,
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not indirectly, but directly. H Yeah, there are there are
people who I guess could all of a sudden feel
in allegiance with I don't know, you figure out isis
Hamas whatever. We're told that there were Iranian hit squads
in this country to take out Donald Trump. And normally,
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normally you can point at, for example, the other party
and say, well, the Democrats don't want that information out.
The Republicans are in power. Donald Trump is the president
the Republicans control of the House. In the Senate, they
control all of the investigative committees. Help me out. Six one, seven, two, five,
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four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
We knew more about Lee Harvey Oswald the day after
that assassination in Dalla, Texas in nineteen sixty three, then
we know about Thomas Crooks or Ryan Wesley Ruth. Now
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in the case of Crooks, a year after that assassination attempt,
and now ten months after Ryan Wesley's roots. I guess
you can call it an attempt. He did not fire
a shot. He fled and was captured, but thank god
that he didn't have an opportunity to fire a shot.
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Six seven thirty six one seven, nine thirty. Let's get
it going. I know some of you probably are amateur sleuths.
Why don't we know more? Why has there been no specials?
Uh now, maybe I've missed him, but why have there
been no specials? In sixty minutes, deep dive into who
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these people are? I want to know who was this
kid's little league coach? Did he ever tak you know
the questions. I'm a reporter, I know how I would
do that. If I were a reporter, my question is,
why hasn't it been done? Moving back on the night side,
get these phone lines going right after this.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
It's Night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
All right, so you have my questions, and I hope
you have some answers. Let's start it off with Tom
in West Virginia. Tom, I'm sure is going to have
a strong opinion on this. I know I have one.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Go ahead, Tom, Yeah, okay. So let's look at Thomas Crooks,
the twenty year old shooter who, prior to shooting at Trump,
made a video with Blackrock Now the friday before the
shooting of what explained to me?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
What is black Rock?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I'm it's an investment firms. It's a huge investment. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well they shot they shot that at his high school. Right,
just so I think I've seen I know what you're
speaking of, Right he was?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Okay, So he's a kid with no social media, but
he's in a Vanguard commercial or Blackrock commercial. Excuse me?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
All right. Now, I don't know the name of the
firm that was a subsidiary of that investment firm, but
they short sold their stock that friday prior to the
attempted assassination, which is kind of odd. But but anyway,
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this kid was got eight shots off an ar fifteen
yards before.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'm interested in your perspective here, so stay with me
for a second. I think I saw that video and
it was there was a shot of him like in
a classroom. It wasn't like he was the star of
the video. He was right.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
He was some geek in a commercial. That's what he was.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Then we're talking about the same thing.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Okay, So here's the point. There was a subsidiary of
that same investment firm that the Friday before the Trump
shooting they short sold a lot of stock. I don't
understand how that works, but if Trump had been assassinated,
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they would have made that that particular firm would have
made a lot of money. And my source for that
was a talk show host. If you want me to mention,
I won't mention his name. If you tell me not to, yeah,
I prefer not.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You mentioned the the talk show hosts.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Because okay, fair enough, fair enough. But here's the other point.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Just so know the reason that I'm saying that. You
know you and I have known an answer for a while.
I have known one another for a while, so I
respect you, and I respect you well enough to explain it.
I don't know who the other person is. I don't
know how credible they are. I don't want to use
my radio station on my show to potentially to disseminate
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inaccurate information. I have never heard. I have heard about
the video that you and I have seen that video. He
was a geeky kid, high school kid, in a classroom
or whatever, working at a blackboard or something, and he
happened to be in this. But why would not the
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SEC or someone be investigating that? And why would not someone,
whether it would be Fox or a myriad of you know,
conservative outlets, not not talked about that. Yeah, Tom, if
you get a chance to call back, we've lost you.
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We did not cut you off here, Okay, But I'm
what I'm trying to do is understand this, so to
I invite you to call back if you if you've
left an anger. I'm surprised if you were inadvertently cut off,
it wasn't by us. I just you know, you would
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think that the SEC or someone would have said, oh,
here's an interesting coincidence. But anyway, we'll keep rolling here.
Let me go next to Karen in Wisconsin. Karen, you're
next on that side. I know you guys had a
tornado out there today, Madison, Wisconsin. I hope you're okay.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Uh yeah. I couldn't believe it was the first story
on Moral news on ABC. That was amazing. But I'm okay.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
It was good.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Okay, So talk to me. Why what we're talking about here?
Are you curious as to why the background of these
two individuals seems to be shrouded in so much mystery?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
No, I think I got I think I interpreted your
question wrong, and I didn't really want to hang up,
But I'll just tell you quickly what I thought, and
you can say, go ahead. No, that's not I thought.
You meant, why don't we talk about the people that
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are attacking people? Why don't we bring them out in
the open, talk about them more, you know, like the
guys that killed the people, And that's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
No, what I'm saying is what I'm saying is we
do not know anything about well, we know very little
about these two potential presidential assassins. And I don't understand
that if if Donald Trump had lost the White House
and the Democrats had had held the White House, you
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could have said, well, maybe the Democrats are trying to
keep a lid on information. Trump's in the White House,
the Republicans control the congressional committees. It would seem to
me make all the sense in the world of them
to get it out. I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Why, well they should. I mean, you know, those are
two attempted not to attemptedassinyassin, and they should be talking
about more.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Okay, Well, I'm glad you agree with me, and I
got Tom.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Back here on the other Marshal, let me go. I'll
let you go.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Let's thought much. Stay safe, stay away from those tornadoes. Tom.
I was afraid you. They didn't want you to go
away or go away mad. My question, my question is, yeah,
irrespective of the source, and you listen to a variety
of things, that's fine. Why isn't someone out there on
if that story is true, and it may be true,
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why hasn't that been put bubbled up? Why hasn't Why
haven't we heard about that before?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I don't know, Dan, And can you hear me, okay,
because we're having weather problems in oh great, Okay, So
I don't know why. I really don't know why. And
the other point is I watched that rally down here
in West Virginia and it was on CNN Live. Back then,
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CNN never covered a Trump rally live. That leads into
the conspiracy theories because he would have had if that
kid had had been a better shot, Trump's brains would
have been blown all over you know, public airwaves or
or national airwaves if that had happened, you know, I mean,
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it would have been like the JFA assassination all over.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah. Why can I address that and give you my
thought on that, because we're just having a conversation. Okay.
It was on a Saturday afternoon, Okay, it was. It
was in Pennsylvania, and I suspect that at that time
of the day a CNN as well as any of
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the twenty four hour news channels are looking for material
and the fact that that Donald Trump was going to
hold a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, was probably catnip for CNN.
You're right if that kid, that kid was a pretty
good shooter when you think about it, to come that close.
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If Trump hadn't turned his head, I'm not so certain
that he would still be alive. And the kid missed
him by well, he nicked him, but he missed the
middle of his head by two or three inches. When
you think about it, that would be the difference.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And Dan, for the record, I'm a hunter. I've hunted
deer for almost forty years now here in West Virginia,
and I'm not an expert shot, not by any stretch.
But the one thing that really shocked me with that situation,
Number one, the kid fired off eight rounds. There was
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a government sniper. I don't know if he was FBI,
I don't know if he was Secret Service. But generally speaking,
a government sniper is a one shot, one kill guy.
They don't they don't. They don't take Yahoo's like me
that hunt deer with a center fire rifle to protect
the president.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Well the way, and the guy was killed.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
No, it was not one shot. It was two shots. Dan,
that's where you're incorrect.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's okay, But for him to locate the guy, I mean, you.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Know, damn, it's one hundred and forty yards. It's one
hundred and forty yards. I don't know what the magnification
of the sniper's rifle was, whether it was one power
or ten power, I do not know, but I do
know one thing. With highly trained snipers that work for
the United States government at one hundred and forty yards,
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a headshot is a piece of cake. All right, I'm
armchair quarterbacking here.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, well, I got to Tom. If you tell me
that the government sniper had to hit him with a
second shot, that would surprise me. And that's the first
I heard of it. But I accept that that then
also leads to my concerns. I just don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
We knew everything about Lee Harvey Oswald, we knew where
he worked, we know what he There's a lot of
information that was available that day, and here it is
in a time of instant news documentaries.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And no one has touched the story. And I'll ask
this of you. Turn the table on you just a
little bit, my friend, If Joe Biden the Democrats had
been re elected, we could talk about that tonight and say, well,
you know, the Democrats probably are not thrilled about getting
the information out here. But Trump's in the White House,
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Republicans controlled perounes in Congress. You would think that six
months we're we're almost at six months in this administration.
Whatever information had been gathered on both these these guys
crooks in this guy, whatever's Ryan Wesley Ruth that it
would all be out here, and it's not.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You know, I'm not thrilled with Pam body. I'm not
thrilled with Cash, but tell and with regards to Ebein,
I was looking forward to that. That's a different topic.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
That's a different topic. It's it's fair the same.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Okay, well, but but here's the other point. They didn't
they cremated this kid's body without looking at his brain.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, you know that's another thing. They now, first of all,
why was his body very wrong? Why was his body
if it was, why was it released back to the
family that quickly? There's just too many questions here. And
I know I'm raising him, and I know that probably
people are uncomfortable with the questions, but I don't care.
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And by the way, you can look at you can
say whatever you want about BONDI, you can say whatever
you want about Cash, Pittell or whatever. They are Trump loyalists,
and Donald Trump himself should want to get that information out.
It seems to me that if I'm the president of
the United States on January twentieth, or maybe the twenty first,
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of the twenty second I'd call him in and say
I want to see the files on who the hell
it was I was trying to kill me in Butler, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Not only on that, I want to hear h MS
Maxwell testify before Congress under oath. Well, you know who
was on the client.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
That's fine, and that's important. That's important. That's important, Tom,
American is more important than the motivations and uh and
the way in which this kid, Thomas Crook's twenty year
old kid got to that roof with the equipment he
had to take out the president, I got to run.
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I'm glad you called back. As always, Thanks Tom, talk.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
To you soon, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I have a great night. We got some open lines
here which befuddles me. Six one seven, four ten thirty,
six one seven, nine thirty. Why do we not know?
Why do we not know? We still don't know who
was involved in the Kennedy assassination. We still don't know
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who was involved in the circumstances of doctor Martin Luther
King's assassination. Why do we not know this? Donald Trump
is the president, why would he not on January twenty
first or twenty second called his people and said, I
want to know who was behind this, what was going on.
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I would think that he would want that out there.
I'm mystified. Back on Nightside right after.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
This, It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
So here's a question. Was Thomas Crook's psychiatric records He's dead.
Whatever privacy or expectation of privacy he had, he lost
the moment he fired those shots. You know, was this
just like a normal kid who one day on a
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Saturday got up and said, you know what I'm going
to do today. I'm going to go kill a presidential candidate. Yeah,
right down at Butler, Pennsylvany. I don't think so. I
don't think so. Why do we not know a lot more?
That's my question? Bill to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Bill next on Nightside, go ahead, Yeah, Dan, Hey, you're
not the only one that's been thinking about this.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
I was a family thing a couple of weeks ago,
and it was mentioned there. Everybody here over here in
Pennsylvania wanted to know about the guy. But what I
can't understand is, you know, I'm a hunter too. But
for him to be able to do what he did, right,
he had to he had to do some practicing and
usually usually in something like this, you know, they'll find
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out what range he went to, and like you said,
they they'd be out at the range interview and you know, okay,
who knew this guy was shooting? And uh? And also
who who else was he hanging out with?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
All great points, you know.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Because listen, uh, I'm not saying is an inside job
on anybody in our government. However, if the if the Iranians, okay,
who we knew was after Trump. And by the way,
it surprised me when they when they said that the
head shut up at the UH up the Secret Service,
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the head shut up there. They knew about the UH
the Iranian plots, but they never passed that down to
their to their guys on the ground. That was astonishing,
I mean. But the thing of it is so an Iranian, Okay,
with these kids, these youngsters that are on these on
these websites and all that they can get a hold
of them, Okay, they can actually have him make contact
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with somebody and there it goes, and then they use it.
They use somebody like him to you know, got some
problems mentally and and this and that, and then they
take them under their wing and tell them you're gonna
do a great thing for your country by by killing Trump.
And uh and you know, like you say, But what
other is astonishing to me, Dan is a couple of
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days ago, as why should the news they say this
and this and this happened, you know, was all done wrong?
And but they got suspended, they didn't get fired. And
I'm thinking to myself, give me to tell me, how
did that whole crew? Okay, I'm not saying all. I'm
sure you got I hear you.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Let me ask you this, Bill, how far do you
live from Butler, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
Oh, I live about maybe one hundred and fifty miles,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Okay, that's that's that's almost as that's like going from
Boston and New Haven, Connecticut. Okay, maybe someone out there.
I just it just seems to me that someone should
have some investigative journalists, whether it's a legitimate investigative journalist
from sixty minutes or it's someone from TMZ, they should
have been walking that neighborhood trying to find out what
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was this kid all about? Did this was this kid normal?
Did this kid, you know, fit within the that he
had friends in school? Was he loner? Who did he
hang out with, what did he read? What was on
the internet? It someone must have all of that. And
I don't understan and why President Trump doesn't call whoever
it is. You know, you talk about Epstein. Okay, that's important,
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that's important. And if there's a list, let's hear the list.
All of that, and you want to know, I guess
Alan Dershwitz tonight said that there's no list. Fine, whatever,
but he that was in comparison. Now, obviously you could say, well,
they were flying guys to Lolita Island on the Lolita
or whatever to have sex with fourteen year olds. That's
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serious stuff. Okay, I don't mean to diminish that, But
what is more serious than a twenty year old kid
taking a potshot at the at the potential president of
the United States. If he had hit, it changes history.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
And we hey, man, there's a there's a journalist out
in Pittsburgh. Her last name is Zito. I don't know
if you've ever seen her on TV, but she would
be a great guest to have because she was there.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, here's what you do, Okay, here's what you do. Bill, Okay,
don't don't just give me the name of somebody, so
I can spend the next five days figuring out who
that is. You figure out who it is. Uh you,
you send me the information and you call some knife
and we'll try to get to get to her. Okay,
But it's like if you if you said to me,
you know Jane Smith and she works at uh TV
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station KDKA in Pennsylvania, and this is her number.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
That's okay, Okay, Bill got a right? You know that
not one of those guys got fired. They just got suspended.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
You got suspended, Bill, you got suspended.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
I said, those those secret service guys got suspended. Not
one of them got fired. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
You mentioned that before. I reckon. Yeah, if you want
to mention it again, go right ahead. But you mentioned
it before. That has a question. But I want to
know about the people who took the shots, or who
were willing to take the shots deagation. That's where the
public should start, in my opinion, simplest am. All right,
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thank you, Bill, thank you very much. Let's keep rolling here.
Bob is in Rhode Island. I never know what to
expect with Bob. Get the plank ready, Rob, Hey, Bob,
how are you hi?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Dan? I know if this young man twenty year old
had been successful, Yeah, and I think that would have
been a different thing. I mean, we Hobby Oswald was successful.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
So what you're saying because successful, Well, let me ask
you this, Bob, do you inherently you're an intelligent American? Purportedly?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Thank you? You're not bad yourself?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah? Good? Are you curious about this or is this
something that.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
You're not to be curious about it?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Bob never disappoints. He just never disappoints. He doesn't get it,
never will. I try to have a rational conversation with
Bob is like talking to your cat. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. We will get as many folks in as
we can, coming right back on night sick, and all
of them will be brighter than Bob.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w BZ,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
All right, we're gonna get to the phone calls right away.
We'll try to get everybody in. If you're on the line,
stay there. If you're not, give us a shot. Six
seven thirty. Dan up in Hampton, New Hampshire. Hey, Dan,
welcome back.
Speaker 9 (32:39):
I am so happy that you've had this show tonight.
That I want to run down there and kiss you,
because I have had these thoughts right from the beginning,
but I have not said them out loud because I
would say people will say I was crazy. Now I'm
gonna say, why why did we not see the medical
(33:01):
We have not seen them at what happened that day?
Also that bullets, all that blood and then when we
look at Trump's ear, there's just there's nothing there, you know.
And I would think something that caused that much blood
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would have at least left a noticeable trace.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
No, I think I think with the video that I
saw the blood, the blood was consistent with what if
if you really got and I think it's look, first
of all, there were people who I know said, well,
it really didn't happen. You bet you, You bet your
butt it happened, okay, uh, and you get you you
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you slice your finger sometime and you can bleed like
a pig in the stuff. If it hit him on
in his ear as it did, there's going to be
nothing but blood because you got blood flowing through through
through your body. That's that's what your heart is doing.
And so that that I disagree with you. When does
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that lead you? When you say that that there wasn't
enough blood. I mean he got nicked in the ear,
That's what happened. What do you what does that take you?
What's your theory.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
I'm not ready to go that far yet because I
think you know where.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
I don't want to.
Speaker 10 (34:35):
The edge of the deep end of the.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Sorry, don't walk us to the deep end of the
pool here. I want to know everything there is about
this kid crooks, and I want to know everything there
is about this guy that was laying out by the
golf course who traveled the world. Apparently he lived in
Hawaii and he was in Ukraine. When was the last
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time you were in Hawaii? Ben to Ukraine recently?
Speaker 9 (35:04):
No, I haven't been.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I did go to I did go go to secret
today though. Good for you, I hope you won, not bad,
not bad?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, Well, I just want the truth. I want to
know the truth.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yes, yes, and I think I'll start.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
Let's see the medical just make me happy.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
There were two guys who were badly wounded. I don't
know if they've been released from the hospital. I don't
know if they're incapacitated. I know that there was the
one guy, Corey Contempori, who died. I saw his wife
on TV over the weekend, which made me think of this.
You know who, what did this this kid? You know,
(35:50):
was this kid a normal kid? I don't know, and
we know nothing about it. And again, why doesn't President
Trump want to get it out there?
Speaker 10 (36:00):
That swell, that's a question.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
All right, I gotta go, Thank you much, fine night.
All right, let's keep rolling here. I got Ralph and
Newton and I got DJ in Medford. Let me go
to Ralph and Newton real quick, go ahead, real quickly, Ralph,
go right.
Speaker 10 (36:15):
Ahead, Danny or nice to hear your voice again, and
thank you for taking the call. So the gentleman that
the first gentleman that talked about the that he was
a tear shooter. Yeah, he had a and I thought
that he was wrong. I had read some time ago
(36:35):
that the detective squad or the sniper squad, one of
the squads that in the you know, involved with the
Butler police station, I actually shot at the kid. It's true,
there were two shots fired at that kid, but only
one of them came from the Secret Service. I shouldn't
say it's true. It's what I read.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, that's what I read as well to be honest
with you.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
Yeah, And I was like, was what's weird is that
the police officer from Butler hit the kid's rifle and
missed them. It's when the guy was climbing up on
the wall and then he saw the kid and he
was kind of leaning backwards and he hit the rifle.
I don't know how that happened. And then the Secret
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Service operator he just blew the kids about what one shot.
I don't know what happened. I know there was a
lot of you know, there's a lot of crazy people
out there that wish that in God forbid that Donald
Trump died. I can't stand the guy. He's an awful president.
And but I'll tell you I was so thankful to
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whoever God or whoever you believe it that he was
not right.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
It was funny. I was with some relatives that day
and my daughter in law came to me and said,
Donald Trump just got shot. And so I went to
the TV and I saw him take He was standing
up and put his hands in the air, and I
gave to someone I forget who it was, I said,
he just won the election.
Speaker 10 (38:06):
Yeah, you know something, I mean, you know, who knows
what happened. But listen, who knows who these characters are
with they well.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
They could do they could do a deep Let me
tell you something. They can do a deep dive on
you and me, and they can find out every everything
in your life. I want to know.
Speaker 10 (38:25):
And you are all over the place, so I.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Mean you know, Ralph one more. I want to get
in here as well.
Speaker 10 (38:31):
Thankful, Thanks man talks soon.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Okay, how does I hope it went well tonight for
the festival in Newton. We'll be checking on that tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (38:38):
Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I have a great one, DJ and meant for DJ.
You've called late, but I can give you about thirty
seconds go.
Speaker 8 (38:46):
I appreciate it. I'm with the second and last caller.
I am not a conspiracy theorist at all. I am
a centrist politically. But I think it's unbelievable that I
think it's fair to call Trump a narcissist, that I
like him, isn't investigating, throwing out every little bit he
can about what this guy was all about. Yeah, if
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there wasn't more questions behind it. I am not suggesting
that it was a fake shooting. I know the blood
was there.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Oh yeah, it was it. Look, it was a real shooting.
Anybody who thinks is a fake shooting is not saying.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
That at all.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Dan. But well, no, no, I know that. I agree's yeah,
I'm agreeing with you. But I want to know. I
want to know right now why we don't know. That's
my question.
Speaker 8 (39:31):
I exactly, I do too, And I think that a big,
big question is why doesn't Trump want to know. I'm
not gonna put Epstein ring in that stuff from that,
but I think it's it's very telling to me that
he is not knocking over every trash can to figure
it out. It starts something to me. I don't know
what the conclusion is, but it says a lot to be.
Let me also say one thing.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I untu out of time, so I got to let
you go. I gave you the warning thirty seconds and
we're well past it. Call earlier. I got to go.
Thank you very much. Done for the night, Rob, Thank
you very much, Marita, thank you very much, callers, listeners,
No postgame tonight. I'm tired. Long day. All dogs, all cats,
all pets go to heaven. That's why Pal Charlie ray Is,
(40:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, welcome back everyone to the fourth and final
hour here on a Wednesday night. Pretty warm wherever you are.
We haven't had many out of state callers tonight. Actually
the only one was built from Vermont. I don't have
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anything planned this hour, which sometimes is a good thing
and sometimes is a bad thing. But during my days
off in early July, I was able to relax and
all of that, but also follow the news and as
I am wanted to do. I'm a news guy. I'm
(00:50):
a news junkie. I guess whether I'm working or on vacation,
I want to know what's going on. And sometimes things
happen that intrigued me, and some of them become stories
that I actually do. But one of the things that
went on while I was on vacation was the first
(01:13):
anniversary of the attempt at assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
That was the most serious situation he faced. When I
talk about Butler, Pennsylvania, I think everybody knows of what
I'm speaking about. A bullet that came very close to
(01:33):
killing then candidate and then former president Donald Trump. You
saw that he did turn his head, and the assassin,
or the attempt at assassin who actually did kill another
innocent person who was there at the rally was a
twenty year old kid. His name was Thomas Matthew Crooks
(01:58):
fired eighth shots from the AR fifteen style rifle while
Trump was speaking, and Trump kind of turned his head
a little bit and the bullet nicked him on the air.
But you could see he reacted to it. If you remember,
there was some concern I shouldn't say concern, but there
(02:18):
was some inquisitiveness about was that really a bullet and
all of that, and yeah it was, I mean it was.
If that bullet had gone I don't know, you know,
six inches four inches three inches to the right, Donald
Trump would not be alive today. And then, to compound that,
(02:40):
a couple of months later, actually two months, in two days,
on September fifteenth, another event occurred where a guy named
Ryan Wesley Routh or Ruth was spotted bearing a rifle
in the shrubs near the Trump International Golf was in
West Palm Beach. I'm sure you remember that one as well.
(03:03):
And there was a Secret Service officer who was Trump
was playing golf and he was about I think a
hole behind it, but he was. He was on the
tea of the hole with this guy was along the fairway.
And for those of you who are golfers, you know
(03:24):
that that can be quite a distance. But if you're
riding around in a golf card, you can move a
couple of hundred yards pretty quickly. And there was a
Secret Service agent who was out in front a couple
of hundred yards and he noticed that this guy was
in there was someone in the bushes, and I guess
(03:46):
he spotted the rifle and he he shot at this
guy and the guy took off and there was a
woman who who saw his car and they captured him.
So you had these two events. In the Butler, Pennsylvania events,
(04:06):
there was there were two other men who were injured
and one man, a firefighter in Butler, Pennsylvania. Corey Competory
I hope I'm pronouncing his name Comparati was shot and killed.
He was someone sitting in the stands behind President Trump.
Now here's my question, and I'm hoping that some of
(04:29):
you might, I don't know, give me your thoughts on this.
It's been a year since crooks fired the bullet that
almost killed Donald Trump. It's been ten months since Ryan
Ruth lay in Wait on September fifteenth, twenty twenty four,
(04:52):
and I must tell you I read a lot, I
watch a lot. I don't know much about Thomas Matthew Crooks,
and I certainly don't know much about Ryan Wesley Ruth.
What I have read is that Crooks had some websites
which were pretty sophisticated websites for a twenty year old,
(05:16):
pretty sophisticated websites for anyone. My question is why don't
we know more about what his motivation was, what his
background was. Normally in those situations, the media scours the
neighborhood and gets interviews with neighbors or friends or relatives
(05:40):
or classmates, and generally the media does a good job.
I don't recall much interest by the national news media
about this guy's background. He's a twenty year old kid.
Think when you were twenty. He was able to get
(06:00):
in a position where he was able to fire eight
shots from an AR fifteen that killed one, wounded a second,
and wounded the Republican nominee for president, This guy, Ryan
Wesley Ruth, he has an interesting background. He apparently at
one point went to Ukraine trying to raise money, I
(06:24):
guess for the war with Russia. So I want to
throw this open to all of you, and maybe some
of you know more about these two would be assassins.
I really would love to hear from those of you
(06:44):
who are as perplexed as me. Now I know that
even to this day, we don't know much, or we
don't know everything about Lee Harvey Oswald. There was actually
a story in the paper yesterday that now there's some
out of a CIA operative who I guess is long
since dead, who apparently finally has been outed as a
(07:07):
CIA handler of Lee Harvey Oswald. Look, I would like
to think that I live in a country where we
are big enough and we're brave enough that they can
be honest with us. I don't expect the CIA or
the FBI, or in these countries companies organizations, I should
(07:29):
say two tell us what their methods and practices are
and how they track people know. I'm sure there are
people who know that I don't. But a year later,
I know virtually I know virtually nothing about Thomas Matthew Crooks.
(07:52):
I know more about Jared Durant, the left fielder for
the Red Sox I know more about May the quarterback
for the Patriots. I know more about Jalen Brown, the
Boston Celtics team leader. I know more about athletes, movie stars,
(08:17):
individuals who are important, but not newly as important as
the guy that came within inches of changing the history
of this country. And I certainly know even less about
this guy, Ryan Wesley Ruth. So I just want to
(08:37):
throw it out there. Some of you might want to
share some information, some of you may want to explain
to me why I am so naive. I don't care.
I just I'd like to discuss it worthy of foreign
countries in any way, shape or form involved in funding
these individuals, in encouraging these INDIVI visuals. I'm talking about,
(09:02):
not indirectly, but directly. H Yeah, there are there are
people who I guess could all of a sudden feel
in allegiance with I don't know, you figure out isis
Hamas whatever. We're told that there were Iranian hit squads
in this country to take out Donald Trump. And normally,
(09:26):
normally you can point at, for example, the other party
and say, well, the Democrats don't want that information out.
The Republicans are in power. Donald Trump is the president
the Republicans control of the House. In the Senate, they
control all of the investigative committees. Help me out. Six one, seven, two, five,
(09:47):
four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
We knew more about Lee Harvey Oswald the day after
that assassination in Dalla, Texas in nineteen sixty three, then
we know about Thomas Crooks or Ryan Wesley Ruth. Now
(10:09):
in the case of Crooks, a year after that assassination attempt,
and now ten months after Ryan Wesley's roots. I guess
you can call it an attempt. He did not fire
a shot. He fled and was captured, but thank god
that he didn't have an opportunity to fire a shot.
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Six seven thirty six one seven, nine thirty. Let's get
it going. I know some of you probably are amateur sleuths.
Why don't we know more? Why has there been no specials?
Uh now, maybe I've missed him, but why have there
been no specials? In sixty minutes, deep dive into who
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these people are? I want to know who was this
kid's little league coach? Did he ever tak you know
the questions. I'm a reporter, I know how I would
do that. If I were a reporter, my question is,
why hasn't it been done? Moving back on the night side,
get these phone lines going right after this.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
It's Night Side with Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
All right, so you have my questions, and I hope
you have some answers. Let's start it off with Tom
in West Virginia. Tom, I'm sure is going to have
a strong opinion on this. I know I have one.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Go ahead, Tom, Yeah, okay. So let's look at Thomas Crooks,
the twenty year old shooter who, prior to shooting at Trump,
made a video with Blackrock Now the friday before the
shooting of what explained to me?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
What is black Rock?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I'm it's an investment firms. It's a huge investment. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well they shot they shot that at his high school. Right,
just so I think I've seen I know what you're
speaking of, Right he was?
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Okay, So he's a kid with no social media, but
he's in a Vanguard commercial or Blackrock commercial. Excuse me?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:13):
All right. Now, I don't know the name of the
firm that was a subsidiary of that investment firm, but
they short sold their stock that friday prior to the
attempted assassination, which is kind of odd. But but anyway,
(12:33):
this kid was got eight shots off an ar fifteen
yards before.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'm interested in your perspective here, so stay with me
for a second. I think I saw that video and
it was there was a shot of him like in
a classroom. It wasn't like he was the star of
the video. He was right.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
He was some geek in a commercial. That's what he was.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Then we're talking about the same thing.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Okay, So here's the point. There was a subsidiary of
that same investment firm that the Friday before the Trump
shooting they short sold a lot of stock. I don't
understand how that works, but if Trump had been assassinated,
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they would have made that that particular firm would have
made a lot of money. And my source for that
was a talk show host. If you want me to mention,
I won't mention his name. If you tell me not to, yeah,
I prefer not.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You mentioned the the talk show hosts.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Because okay, fair enough, fair enough. But here's the other point.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Just so know the reason that I'm saying that. You
know you and I have known an answer for a while.
I have known one another for a while, so I
respect you, and I respect you well enough to explain it.
I don't know who the other person is. I don't
know how credible they are. I don't want to use
my radio station on my show to potentially to disseminate
(14:11):
inaccurate information. I have never heard. I have heard about
the video that you and I have seen that video. He
was a geeky kid, high school kid, in a classroom
or whatever, working at a blackboard or something, and he
happened to be in this. But why would not the
(14:32):
SEC or someone be investigating that? And why would not someone,
whether it would be Fox or a myriad of you know,
conservative outlets, not not talked about that. Yeah, Tom, if
you get a chance to call back, we've lost you.
(14:53):
We did not cut you off here, Okay, But I'm
what I'm trying to do is understand this, so to
I invite you to call back if you if you've
left an anger. I'm surprised if you were inadvertently cut off,
it wasn't by us. I just you know, you would
(15:15):
think that the SEC or someone would have said, oh,
here's an interesting coincidence. But anyway, we'll keep rolling here.
Let me go next to Karen in Wisconsin. Karen, you're
next on that side. I know you guys had a
tornado out there today, Madison, Wisconsin. I hope you're okay.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Uh yeah. I couldn't believe it was the first story
on Moral news on ABC. That was amazing. But I'm okay.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
It was good.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Okay, So talk to me. Why what we're talking about here?
Are you curious as to why the background of these
two individuals seems to be shrouded in so much mystery?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
No, I think I got I think I interpreted your
question wrong, and I didn't really want to hang up,
But I'll just tell you quickly what I thought, and
you can say, go ahead. No, that's not I thought.
You meant, why don't we talk about the people that
(16:20):
are attacking people? Why don't we bring them out in
the open, talk about them more, you know, like the
guys that killed the people, And that's what I thought.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
No, what I'm saying is what I'm saying is we
do not know anything about well, we know very little
about these two potential presidential assassins. And I don't understand
that if if Donald Trump had lost the White House
and the Democrats had had held the White House, you
(16:54):
could have said, well, maybe the Democrats are trying to
keep a lid on information. Trump's in the White House,
the Republicans control the congressional committees. It would seem to
me make all the sense in the world of them
to get it out. I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Why, well they should. I mean, you know, those are
two attempted not to attemptedassinyassin, and they should be talking
about more.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Okay, Well, I'm glad you agree with me, and I
got Tom.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Back here on the other Marshal, let me go. I'll
let you go.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Let's thought much. Stay safe, stay away from those tornadoes. Tom.
I was afraid you. They didn't want you to go
away or go away mad. My question, my question is, yeah,
irrespective of the source, and you listen to a variety
of things, that's fine. Why isn't someone out there on
if that story is true, and it may be true,
(17:49):
why hasn't that been put bubbled up? Why hasn't Why
haven't we heard about that before?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I don't know, Dan, And can you hear me, okay,
because we're having weather problems in oh great, Okay, So
I don't know why. I really don't know why. And
the other point is I watched that rally down here
in West Virginia and it was on CNN Live. Back then,
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CNN never covered a Trump rally live. That leads into
the conspiracy theories because he would have had if that
kid had had been a better shot, Trump's brains would
have been blown all over you know, public airwaves or
or national airwaves if that had happened, you know, I mean,
(18:46):
it would have been like the JFA assassination all over.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Yeah. Why can I address that and give you my
thought on that, because we're just having a conversation. Okay.
It was on a Saturday afternoon, Okay, it was. It
was in Pennsylvania, and I suspect that at that time
of the day a CNN as well as any of
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the twenty four hour news channels are looking for material
and the fact that that Donald Trump was going to
hold a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, was probably catnip for CNN.
You're right if that kid, that kid was a pretty
good shooter when you think about it, to come that close.
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If Trump hadn't turned his head, I'm not so certain
that he would still be alive. And the kid missed
him by well, he nicked him, but he missed the
middle of his head by two or three inches. When
you think about it, that would be the difference.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And Dan, for the record, I'm a hunter. I've hunted
deer for almost forty years now here in West Virginia,
and I'm not an expert shot, not by any stretch.
But the one thing that really shocked me with that situation,
Number one, the kid fired off eight rounds. There was
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a government sniper. I don't know if he was FBI,
I don't know if he was Secret Service. But generally speaking,
a government sniper is a one shot, one kill guy.
They don't they don't. They don't take Yahoo's like me
that hunt deer with a center fire rifle to protect
the president.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Well the way, and the guy was killed.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
No, it was not one shot. It was two shots. Dan,
that's where you're incorrect.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
That's okay, But for him to locate the guy, I mean, you.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Know, damn, it's one hundred and forty yards. It's one
hundred and forty yards. I don't know what the magnification
of the sniper's rifle was, whether it was one power
or ten power, I do not know, but I do
know one thing. With highly trained snipers that work for
the United States government at one hundred and forty yards,
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a headshot is a piece of cake. All right, I'm
armchair quarterbacking here.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Yeah, well, I got to Tom. If you tell me
that the government sniper had to hit him with a
second shot, that would surprise me. And that's the first
I heard of it. But I accept that that then
also leads to my concerns. I just don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
We knew everything about Lee Harvey Oswald, we knew where
he worked, we know what he There's a lot of
information that was available that day, and here it is
in a time of instant news documentaries.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And no one has touched the story. And I'll ask
this of you. Turn the table on you just a
little bit, my friend, If Joe Biden the Democrats had
been re elected, we could talk about that tonight and say, well,
you know, the Democrats probably are not thrilled about getting
the information out here. But Trump's in the White House,
(22:15):
Republicans controlled perounes in Congress. You would think that six
months we're we're almost at six months in this administration.
Whatever information had been gathered on both these these guys
crooks in this guy, whatever's Ryan Wesley Ruth that it
would all be out here, and it's not.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
You know, I'm not thrilled with Pam body. I'm not
thrilled with Cash, but tell and with regards to Ebein,
I was looking forward to that. That's a different topic.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
That's a different topic. It's it's fair the same.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Okay, well, but but here's the other point. They didn't
they cremated this kid's body without looking at his brain.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, you know that's another thing. They now, first of all,
why was his body very wrong? Why was his body
if it was, why was it released back to the
family that quickly? There's just too many questions here. And
I know I'm raising him, and I know that probably
people are uncomfortable with the questions, but I don't care.
(23:27):
And by the way, you can look at you can
say whatever you want about BONDI, you can say whatever
you want about Cash, Pittell or whatever. They are Trump loyalists,
and Donald Trump himself should want to get that information out.
It seems to me that if I'm the president of
the United States on January twentieth, or maybe the twenty first,
(23:49):
of the twenty second I'd call him in and say
I want to see the files on who the hell
it was I was trying to kill me in Butler, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Not only on that, I want to hear h MS
Maxwell testify before Congress under oath. Well, you know who
was on the client.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
That's fine, and that's important. That's important. That's important, Tom,
American is more important than the motivations and uh and
the way in which this kid, Thomas Crook's twenty year
old kid got to that roof with the equipment he
had to take out the president, I got to run.
(24:33):
I'm glad you called back. As always, Thanks Tom, talk.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
To you soon, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I have a great night. We got some open lines
here which befuddles me. Six one seven, four ten thirty,
six one seven, nine thirty. Why do we not know?
Why do we not know? We still don't know who
was involved in the Kennedy assassination. We still don't know
(24:58):
who was involved in the circumstances of doctor Martin Luther
King's assassination. Why do we not know this? Donald Trump
is the president, why would he not on January twenty
first or twenty second called his people and said, I
want to know who was behind this, what was going on.
(25:20):
I would think that he would want that out there.
I'm mystified. Back on Nightside right after.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
This, It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
So here's a question. Was Thomas Crook's psychiatric records He's dead.
Whatever privacy or expectation of privacy he had, he lost
the moment he fired those shots. You know, was this
just like a normal kid who one day on a
(25:55):
Saturday got up and said, you know what I'm going
to do today. I'm going to go kill a presidential candidate. Yeah,
right down at Butler, Pennsylvany. I don't think so. I
don't think so. Why do we not know a lot more?
That's my question? Bill to Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
Bill next on Nightside, go ahead, Yeah, Dan, Hey, you're
not the only one that's been thinking about this.
Speaker 8 (26:18):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
I was a family thing a couple of weeks ago,
and it was mentioned there. Everybody here over here in
Pennsylvania wanted to know about the guy. But what I
can't understand is, you know, I'm a hunter too. But
for him to be able to do what he did, right,
he had to he had to do some practicing and
usually usually in something like this, you know, they'll find
(26:40):
out what range he went to, and like you said,
they they'd be out at the range interview and you know, okay,
who knew this guy was shooting? And uh? And also
who who else was he hanging out with?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
All great points, you know.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
Because listen, uh, I'm not saying is an inside job
on anybody in our government. However, if the if the Iranians, okay,
who we knew was after Trump. And by the way,
it surprised me when they when they said that the
head shut up at the UH up the Secret Service,
(27:18):
the head shut up there. They knew about the UH
the Iranian plots, but they never passed that down to
their to their guys on the ground. That was astonishing,
I mean. But the thing of it is so an Iranian, Okay,
with these kids, these youngsters that are on these on
these websites and all that they can get a hold
of them, Okay, they can actually have him make contact
(27:38):
with somebody and there it goes, and then they use it.
They use somebody like him to you know, got some
problems mentally and and this and that, and then they
take them under their wing and tell them you're gonna
do a great thing for your country by by killing Trump.
And uh and you know, like you say, But what
other is astonishing to me, Dan is a couple of
(27:58):
days ago, as why should the news they say this
and this and this happened, you know, was all done wrong?
And but they got suspended, they didn't get fired. And
I'm thinking to myself, give me to tell me, how
did that whole crew? Okay, I'm not saying all. I'm
sure you got I hear you.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Let me ask you this, Bill, how far do you
live from Butler, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
Oh, I live about maybe one hundred and fifty miles,
I guess.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Okay, that's that's that's almost as that's like going from
Boston and New Haven, Connecticut. Okay, maybe someone out there.
I just it just seems to me that someone should
have some investigative journalists, whether it's a legitimate investigative journalist
from sixty minutes or it's someone from TMZ, they should
have been walking that neighborhood trying to find out what
(28:43):
was this kid all about? Did this was this kid normal?
Did this kid, you know, fit within the that he
had friends in school? Was he loner? Who did he
hang out with, what did he read? What was on
the internet? It someone must have all of that. And
I don't understan and why President Trump doesn't call whoever
it is. You know, you talk about Epstein. Okay, that's important,
(29:08):
that's important. And if there's a list, let's hear the list.
All of that, and you want to know, I guess
Alan Dershwitz tonight said that there's no list. Fine, whatever,
but he that was in comparison. Now, obviously you could say, well,
they were flying guys to Lolita Island on the Lolita
or whatever to have sex with fourteen year olds. That's
(29:30):
serious stuff. Okay, I don't mean to diminish that, But
what is more serious than a twenty year old kid
taking a potshot at the at the potential president of
the United States. If he had hit, it changes history.
Speaker 7 (29:45):
And we hey, man, there's a there's a journalist out
in Pittsburgh. Her last name is Zito. I don't know
if you've ever seen her on TV, but she would
be a great guest to have because she was there.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Well, here's what you do, Okay, here's what you do. Bill, Okay,
don't don't just give me the name of somebody, so
I can spend the next five days figuring out who
that is. You figure out who it is. Uh you,
you send me the information and you call some knife
and we'll try to get to get to her. Okay,
But it's like if you if you said to me,
you know Jane Smith and she works at uh TV
(30:19):
station KDKA in Pennsylvania, and this is her number.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
That's okay, Okay, Bill got a right? You know that
not one of those guys got fired. They just got suspended.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
You got suspended, Bill, you got suspended.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
I said, those those secret service guys got suspended. Not
one of them got fired. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
You mentioned that before. I reckon. Yeah, if you want
to mention it again, go right ahead. But you mentioned
it before. That has a question. But I want to
know about the people who took the shots, or who
were willing to take the shots deagation. That's where the
public should start, in my opinion, simplest am. All right,
(31:08):
thank you, Bill, thank you very much. Let's keep rolling here.
Bob is in Rhode Island. I never know what to
expect with Bob. Get the plank ready, Rob, Hey, Bob,
how are you hi?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
Dan? I know if this young man twenty year old
had been successful, Yeah, and I think that would have
been a different thing. I mean, we Hobby Oswald was successful.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
So what you're saying because successful, Well, let me ask
you this, Bob, do you inherently you're an intelligent American? Purportedly?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
Thank you? You're not bad yourself?
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah? Good? Are you curious about this or is this
something that.
Speaker 5 (31:51):
You're not to be curious about it?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Bob never disappoints. He just never disappoints. He doesn't get it,
never will. I try to have a rational conversation with
Bob is like talking to your cat. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. We will get as many folks in as
we can, coming right back on night sick, and all
of them will be brighter than Bob.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w BZ,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
All right, we're gonna get to the phone calls right away.
We'll try to get everybody in. If you're on the line,
stay there. If you're not, give us a shot. Six
seven thirty. Dan up in Hampton, New Hampshire. Hey, Dan,
welcome back.
Speaker 9 (32:39):
I am so happy that you've had this show tonight.
That I want to run down there and kiss you,
because I have had these thoughts right from the beginning,
but I have not said them out loud because I
would say people will say I was crazy. Now I'm
gonna say, why why did we not see the medical
(33:01):
We have not seen them at what happened that day?
Also that bullets, all that blood and then when we
look at Trump's ear, there's just there's nothing there, you know.
And I would think something that caused that much blood
(33:21):
would have at least left a noticeable trace.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
No, I think I think with the video that I
saw the blood, the blood was consistent with what if
if you really got and I think it's look, first
of all, there were people who I know said, well,
it really didn't happen. You bet you, You bet your
butt it happened, okay, uh, and you get you you
(33:51):
you slice your finger sometime and you can bleed like
a pig in the stuff. If it hit him on
in his ear as it did, there's going to be
nothing but blood because you got blood flowing through through
through your body. That's that's what your heart is doing.
And so that that I disagree with you. When does
(34:14):
that lead you? When you say that that there wasn't
enough blood. I mean he got nicked in the ear,
That's what happened. What do you what does that take you?
What's your theory.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
I'm not ready to go that far yet because I
think you know where.
Speaker 8 (34:33):
I don't want to.
Speaker 10 (34:35):
The edge of the deep end of the.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Sorry, don't walk us to the deep end of the
pool here. I want to know everything there is about
this kid crooks, and I want to know everything there
is about this guy that was laying out by the
golf course who traveled the world. Apparently he lived in
Hawaii and he was in Ukraine. When was the last
(34:59):
time you were in Hawaii? Ben to Ukraine recently?
Speaker 9 (35:04):
No, I haven't been.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
I did go to I did go go to secret
today though. Good for you, I hope you won, not bad,
not bad?
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, Well, I just want the truth. I want to
know the truth.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yes, yes, and I think I'll start.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
Let's see the medical just make me happy.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
There were two guys who were badly wounded. I don't
know if they've been released from the hospital. I don't
know if they're incapacitated. I know that there was the
one guy, Corey Contempori, who died. I saw his wife
on TV over the weekend, which made me think of this.
You know who, what did this this kid? You know,
(35:50):
was this kid a normal kid? I don't know, and
we know nothing about it. And again, why doesn't President
Trump want to get it out there?
Speaker 10 (36:00):
That swell, that's a question.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
All right, I gotta go, Thank you much, fine night.
All right, let's keep rolling here. I got Ralph and
Newton and I got DJ in Medford. Let me go
to Ralph and Newton real quick, go ahead, real quickly, Ralph,
go right.
Speaker 10 (36:15):
Ahead, Danny or nice to hear your voice again, and
thank you for taking the call. So the gentleman that
the first gentleman that talked about the that he was
a tear shooter. Yeah, he had a and I thought
that he was wrong. I had read some time ago
(36:35):
that the detective squad or the sniper squad, one of
the squads that in the you know, involved with the
Butler police station, I actually shot at the kid. It's true,
there were two shots fired at that kid, but only
one of them came from the Secret Service. I shouldn't
say it's true. It's what I read.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, that's what I read as well to be honest
with you.
Speaker 10 (37:00):
Yeah, And I was like, was what's weird is that
the police officer from Butler hit the kid's rifle and
missed them. It's when the guy was climbing up on
the wall and then he saw the kid and he
was kind of leaning backwards and he hit the rifle.
I don't know how that happened. And then the Secret
(37:20):
Service operator he just blew the kids about what one shot.
I don't know what happened. I know there was a
lot of you know, there's a lot of crazy people
out there that wish that in God forbid that Donald
Trump died. I can't stand the guy. He's an awful president.
And but I'll tell you I was so thankful to
(37:42):
whoever God or whoever you believe it that he was
not right.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
It was funny. I was with some relatives that day
and my daughter in law came to me and said,
Donald Trump just got shot. And so I went to
the TV and I saw him take He was standing
up and put his hands in the air, and I
gave to someone I forget who it was, I said,
he just won the election.
Speaker 10 (38:06):
Yeah, you know something, I mean, you know, who knows
what happened. But listen, who knows who these characters are
with they well.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
They could do they could do a deep Let me
tell you something. They can do a deep dive on
you and me, and they can find out every everything
in your life. I want to know.
Speaker 10 (38:25):
And you are all over the place, so I.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Mean you know, Ralph one more. I want to get
in here as well.
Speaker 10 (38:31):
Thankful, Thanks man talks soon.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Okay, how does I hope it went well tonight for
the festival in Newton. We'll be checking on that tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (38:38):
Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
I have a great one, DJ and meant for DJ.
You've called late, but I can give you about thirty
seconds go.
Speaker 8 (38:46):
I appreciate it. I'm with the second and last caller.
I am not a conspiracy theorist at all. I am
a centrist politically. But I think it's unbelievable that I
think it's fair to call Trump a narcissist, that I
like him, isn't investigating, throwing out every little bit he
can about what this guy was all about. Yeah, if
(39:09):
there wasn't more questions behind it. I am not suggesting
that it was a fake shooting. I know the blood
was there.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Oh yeah, it was it. Look, it was a real shooting.
Anybody who thinks is a fake shooting is not saying.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
That at all.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Dan. But well, no, no, I know that. I agree's yeah,
I'm agreeing with you. But I want to know. I
want to know right now why we don't know. That's
my question.
Speaker 8 (39:31):
I exactly, I do too, And I think that a big,
big question is why doesn't Trump want to know. I'm
not gonna put Epstein ring in that stuff from that,
but I think it's it's very telling to me that
he is not knocking over every trash can to figure
it out. It starts something to me. I don't know
what the conclusion is, but it says a lot to be.
Let me also say one thing.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
I untu out of time, so I got to let
you go. I gave you the warning thirty seconds and
we're well past it. Call earlier. I got to go.
Thank you very much. Done for the night, Rob, Thank
you very much, Marita, thank you very much, callers, listeners,
No postgame tonight. I'm tired. Long day. All dogs, all cats,
all pets go to heaven. That's why Pal Charlie ray Is,
(40:13):
who passed fifteen years going February, that's why your pets
are past day loved you, you love them. We'll see
you tomorrow night on Nightside. Have a great Thursday everyone,
Dan ray for Nightside.
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