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October 16, 2025 37 mins
The Young Republicans, an organized political youth organization in the U.S. is under fire for a leaked Telegram chat group that contained antisemitic, racist, and homophobic text messages. Among the group chat are leaders of the organization who some prominent Republican leaders and others are calling on to resign or step down from their positions. Dan discussed the serious nature of these remarks and how there is no place in politics, whether the Republican Party or other, for such hateful and offensive speech.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As night Side with Dan Ray on WBS cost New Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
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championship later on this month.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Welcome back, everybody.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
I want to talk about a really ugly story that
I read yesterday in Political Political UH and essentially it's
a story about some really hateful statements that were made
by young members of the Republican Party, some of them
are elected officials. This was contained to four states, New York, Vermont, Arizona,

(00:55):
UH in Kansas, although who knows if there were others
who were not on this chat according to the New
York Times, and again the story was broken by Politico.
But according to the New York Times, over seven months,
twenty nine hundred pages of messages sent over telegram, which

(01:17):
is a chat site, elected Republicans and leaders of local
groups of young party activists in New York, Vermont, Arizona
and Kansas routinely used racist and homophobic language, and glibally
invoked Hitler in the Holocaust. The text of the times mentioned,
reported on Tuesday by Politico, were part of a I

(01:40):
don't know what this even means, restore war room, restore
a year war room. I don't know, but a dozen
gen z and millennial Republicans, some of whom held jobs
in elected officials offices or in government posts on guys
of Vermont state senator named Samuel Douglas, who's been again.

(02:03):
Assuming that the people who our names were associated with
these again, they, I guess, enjoy a presumption, some presumption
of innocence. But the exchanges mixed politics with personal matters,
laced throughout with offensive language that was shocking for its
volume and group think. Uh. The chief of staff of
a New York assemblyman, Peter Junta, posted, I love Hitler

(02:30):
and wrote if your pilot is a she and she
looks ten shades darker than someone from sicily just ended
there screamed the no no word. At another point, according
to Politico, this same jerk, mister Giunta, was asked if
he was watching an NBA game, and he responded, I'd
go to the zoo if I wanted to watch monkey

(02:50):
play ball and the June message he wrote, everyone that
votes no is going to the gas chamber. This is
some pretty nasty stuff, and I'm not happy about reading
it to you, but I think it's important to sunlight
is the greatest disinfectant. Some guy who is the vice

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chairman of Kansas Young Republicans. I wonder how many there
is there are in that group used racial slurs against
black people. Quote bros at a chicken restaurant ordering his food,
would he like some watermelon and kool.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Aid with that? And it goes on and on and on. There.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
There was somewhat of a defense from the Vice President today,
which was disappointing to me. He rightfully so pointed out
that there's a candidate Virginia who's the party's Democratic nominee
for state attorney general, who wrote some pretty lurid messages

(03:54):
himself in twenty twenty two comparing the state's Republican speaker
to Hitler and Paul Pott and suggesting that this Republican
speaker deserved to be killed. That has become an issue
in the Virginia governor's race as well as the attorney
general's race, and.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
JD.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
Vance, the Vice president, posted on Tuesday that Jones's comments
were far worse. I don't think they're far worse. I
think they're all horrible. I don't think there's shades of
horrible here, mister Vice president, He said, wrote, I refuse
to join the pear clutching when powerful people call for
political violence. Yeah, clearly that is a problem. And then

(04:40):
I guess today or yesterday, Vance doubled down and said
critics should focus on the real issues and grow up. No,
I think, mister Vice President, that these young Republicans.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Need to grow up. I don't understand this, I really don't.
We have come a long.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Way from the days of Joe Wallace and Les Dramatics
and Orville Fabas and all of that, and yet we
know that these these biases, these characterizations, these vile comments,
it continue to exist. But when you have people who

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purport themselves to be young leaders of a political party,
be it Republican or Democrat, and in this case it's Republican,
show the world what they are. Believe them, believe them.
All of these people should resign from whatever little office

(05:39):
or fiefdom they hold or rule. Okay, and anyone who's
familiar with college politics and young Republicans young Democrats. They
all fashion themselves as the next Bill Clinton, who will
go from a boys state to the White House over
a period of thirty years. No, this needs to be

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flushed away when I and I use the word fleshed
away honestly, Uh, if if anyone today holds in their
heart those feelings, they.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Need to really look in the mirror. They really need
to look in the mirror.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
There are people of all uh backgrounds who find themselves
on different sides of political aisles, which is good in
my opinion for America. Uh, it is good that there
are wealthy people who are Democrats and wealthy people who
are Republicans, and there are wealth for poor people who

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are Democrats poor people who are Republicans. That you know
that there are people uh serving in elected office or
high appointed office of different genders who are happen to
be of both parties. Uh it is you know, we
are that that melting pot, and each party needs to

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reflect and needs to draw voters from each group in
order to succeed. I can only write off these comments
to arrogance and immaturity, but I do think that all
of these individuals would do themselves a favor and do

(07:26):
their party. And again, in this case these are Republicans.
In other cases there have been democrats. And to just
leave the political arena for a long time, and again
that might be four years, five years, might be twenty years,
may never come back, but realize that there is a

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penalty to paybe to be paid, a price to be
paid for arrogance and its arrogance and its stupidity. And
when you combine arrogance, abject arrogance with abject stupid it
is a very dangerous broth that gets brewed up. And
I just again, I'd love to talk about it if

(08:09):
people would like to join the conversation. I guess what
this proves to me is that ignorance and arrogance are
on both sides of the political island in America. People
have a right to say what they want to say.
And I know that some of my libertarian friends would
defend their right to say it. Yeah, they have right
to say it. Matter of fact, as Harvey Silverglate would

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say to me, it's great that they are allowed to
say it, so you can see what really lies beneath
the surface. So they say one of these clowns. Was
a state senator in Vermont, a young guy flush that
political future down the drain. And there are others who
have served in appointed positions. But I just think it

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just if there's one thing that we have learned in America,
I think, and I've been around longer than probably than
most of you, uh, is that we're really blessed to
be living living in a country where political opponents are
not taken out into into the public square and and
execute it. As we've seen in in Gaza in the

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last couple of days, as we saw with isis we
we have our disagreements, but we're respectful of one another.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Uh. And we certainly do not, you know, crawl in
the gutter. Uh.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
And and and keep recycling uh racial slurs, religious slurs,
gender slurs, sexual slurs. But they just keep coming up.
And I guess what I would ask is.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
What can we do? I mean, this was.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Uh, this was disheartening to read, but I thin I
think it needed to be addressed. And I had a
conversation with my producer today and I said, I want
to address this. It's not something that I enjoy, but
I'd love to have you join the conversation, and I'm
just going to open up the phone lines, and I
don't care where you're coming from, I hope you will

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join me in condemnation of this. There should be no
what about is what this attorney general candidate in Virginia
said a couple of years ago is also.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Beyond the pale again. Political violence. It has to stop.
It has to stop.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
I was grateful when I saw this guy down in
Pennsylvania sentenced to I think it's sixty years in prison,
the guy that tried to burn down the Pennsylvania Governor's
mansion with the Governor of Pennsylvania and his family asleep
at two o'clock in the morning. We've seen the assassination

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of a young political leader, Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
You don't have to agree with Charlie Kirk, you don't
have to agree with anything he said, but to see.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
What happened to him kind it cannot We can talk
about what happened to the uh, to the to the
state senator and her husband in Minnesota. It has to stop.
We have enough random violence in this country. So I'm
just going to open it up here and I'm hoping
that some of you will join me. If you don't

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want to, we can. We can talk about another another topic.
But I think it's important on this program to engage it,
deal with it, and denounce it as clearly and as
unequivocally as I can. Irrespective of what the position is
of someone who says it, it is time for them

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to withdraw from the public arena, withdraw from from public politics,
resign so or under the office, because if you hold
those views in your heart, you can't represent the entirety.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Of your constituency.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
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ten thirty.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Coming right back on night Side. My name is Dan Ray.
I feel strongly about it.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Not something I really enjoy talking about because I wish
it had never happened, but it did and we can't
ignore it, and I hope you won't ignore it.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
We'll be right back on Nightside.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
news radio.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Okay, let's go to the calls and again, nobody's perfect.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
I get that. I get that.

Speaker 4 (12:34):
I'm not suggesting people are going to be perfect, but
to join a group chat and say some of the
things that are attributed to this group chat again, assuming
that you know the people who whose names are associated
with wrote it. If we find out that someone had
assumed their name, that's fine, but you can read the

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New York Times article. You can also read the article
the original article in political Let's start off with Rob
in New Hampshire. Rob, appreciate your calling in your first
this hour at night side your thoughts and observations, Rob,
go right ahead, right.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
Thank you very much, Stan for taking my call.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
And I don't know if I've spoken with you before,
but I rarely call into shows, but your intro was
very provocative and thanks for that.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Well, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Since you haven't spoken before, we give you the first
time calls a round of applause. So this is a
round of our plause from our digital studio audience.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
Go right ahead, all.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Right, Okay.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
I typically do have a point, but I don't have
a point now other than just to relate a story
which I think is relevant to the question that you
asked and has to do with what I'll call like TVs.
You know, And I was at a local establishment at
the bar and a guy next to me remarked like

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he was enough to remember JFK's assassination, and I said
out loud in front of the group that I don't
care what your politics are, any assassination of a president
is bad news for a country.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
I remember, I'm old enough to remember that day. Believe me,
it was a horrific day.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
Okay, I can't imagine. I mean, I wasn't born until
after that happened. But at that point I made I
just said, you know, thank god they missed. And the
woman next to me, who I would just described in
the blue terms massively tds she I can't I'm paraphrasing,

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but basically she made the point, too bad they missed.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
And then it was like.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
She was honestly kind of crazy because at that point
she said, well, the version was hired by some mega
arm that so okay, so well there.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Were people, yeah, hold on round, just there were people
on this show the day after, not the day after,
probably a couple of days after. Who who tried to
convince me that that when when President Trump came up,
you know, bleeding from the ear, that he basically had
ducked down to grab a catcher packet and they were
convinced of that. You know, I remember just going back

(15:24):
to the Kennedy assassination. Where I was when we heard
about it, uh, And I know that there were people
that weekend who were saying, is this a precursor to
that was the height of the Cold War? An attack
from from then Soviet Union? But go ahead, I'm interrupting you.
And I just wanted to give you a little context
that maybe you had.

Speaker 6 (15:41):
Never that's important, contexts that I don't know. And I
followed politics pretty well better than the average bear.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
But it was just shocking to me that, you know, people.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
Could believe that and hold that point of view around
any president, regardless of a politic ex that you know,
you would, you know, cheer on, cheer that on, and
or start concocting conspiracy theories around how this is actually
concocted by some Trump arm which I think is there was.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
There was the late Senator Robert F.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Kennedy, who himself was taken by an assassin's bullet.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
One of his famous quotes was violence spagets violence.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
And we are a society with which we've had a
lot of violence. And look when you look at the
what happened over in Gaza, these people kneeling it with
blindfolded who were about to be shot uh and disposed of?

Speaker 3 (16:44):
You know?

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Is that where we want to get to in this country?
And again it can start sometimes with words uh, and
it then can get into it get did the violence.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
But I hope I don't.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Know you know, since you use the word TDS, I
assumed the phrase you probably are favorably Clyde towards the
Donald Trump. Maybe if you live in New Hampshire, Republican,
I hope you will join me in denouncing these comments that, uh,
these vile comments that were made by these young people
who obviously don't understand this world and and how in

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order for us to survive in this world, we have
to coexist together.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Okay, And I'm not I'm not talking about politics.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
Yes, I mean yeah, And that's the thing, Like, regardless
of who I voted for, I don't want any president
or formid old candidate for president to get shot like period, period,
end of statement. And like like to your point, like,
how do we you know it lays on the political

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leaders of our country too?

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Well, I think I'll.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Tell you one thing, one thing that you and I
can do when we hear someone say something that is
you know, antisemitic, homophobic, racist, certainly. I would hope that
everybody in these audience has friends of different backgrounds. I
would hope that you know that you just don't hang
out with people who look like you and think like you.

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I would hope that you have friends on both sides
of the political aisle, that you can have conversations back
and forth and realize that although you may disagree with
them politically, yeah, you can maintain friendships and within families
as well. And we have become very divided, and this
story yesterday points out that some people really do have

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that feeling that somehow they are more important than another
group of people because they happen to look different. One
of the things that I have always believed, and I
believe I'll believe until the day I die, that the
greatest thing in this country that brings us together, that
makes people understand that there is no superior group of

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people in this country is sports. Because if you play
sports when you're a kid, and I did, and I
hope you did, you learn very very early on that
there's a lot of people who are better than you,
and a lot of people who are better than you
come in different packages, different backgrounds, different you know, different ethnics,
different races. You know, the civil rights movement in this country,

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which you talk about in nineteen fifty four, Brown versus
Board of Education Jackie Robinson in nineteen forty seven. You know, basically,
I think started to bring down a lot of the
racial barriers by as a professional baseball player. So we've
we've seen that. And the one place where where competition

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rules in competition prevails is on the in the arena
of sports. You know, if you're a great basketball player,
doesn't matter what your what your background is, if you're
a great baseball player, doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Okay, go ahead, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:55):
And I know if you are the callers. But my
response was basically to ask questions. It's like, well, why
do you feel that?

Speaker 5 (20:01):
Why? Was like to ask provocative questions.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
That might hopefully elicit some sort of intelligent response, and
unfortunately I got nonw I won't get into the ge.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
But you're probably not going to get it.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
But also I think to sit there and laugh or
to giggle or to just nod people think that as
tacit approval. I think it's a responsibility in all of
us when someone says something that outrageous, and particularly when
it's again, it's racist, sexist, homophobic. You know, hopefully all
of us have friends. Think about would you want to

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be sitting next to your friend when that anti semitic
comment was made, and would you not challenge it that
someone who whose friendship you value happens to be minority.
Would you not challenge it even though they're not sitting
there with you?

Speaker 6 (20:49):
In this case, I would also add to you, you know, racist, homophobic,
like partisanship around like, oh did you vote for Trump?

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Did you do this all of a sudden you are
just anceled on?

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Yeah, I totally get it. I'm agreeing with you on
all counts. I'm agreeing with you all counts because once
you know, everybody should have the ability to make up
their own mind. But everybody should understand that none of
us are, inherently, because of our immutable characteristics, more qualified

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or better than someone else.

Speaker 5 (21:24):
That's that's what right. But to that point, I feel like.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
Our First Amendment is getting infringed in the past five
years because people can't speak their minds because for fear
of getting either fired, canceled, whatever, and like that is
not how our country is was founded on. We have
to you know, we are founded on open debate. I

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know that, Yeah, we have to be able to talk
things through versus just Yeah, that's.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
A point that complements what I'm talking came about as well,
So I take that point. I'm into my newscast, so
I gotta I gotta run. I hope you'll continue to
call this program. Call well, thank you for calling the show.
Have a great night. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
If you disagree with me, bring it on, okay, but
I'm hoping to hear voices of agreement because if we
if you're not courageous enough to call and agree, will
you be courageous enough the next time someone invokes one
of those horrific terms in your presence, or will you
just turn away and make like you act as if
you didn't hear it?

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Back on Night Side after this.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w BEAZ,
Boston's news radio.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Back to the call, I'm going to try to pick
the pace up a little bit here.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Let me go to say D. Say D, how are
you welcome?

Speaker 7 (22:52):
Hello?

Speaker 8 (22:53):
Dan?

Speaker 7 (22:53):
How are you? I'm working with you and thank you
for taking my call to appreciate.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
It right back at you. Have you called me be
for city.

Speaker 7 (23:01):
Yes, sir three times, this is my third time.

Speaker 4 (23:03):
All right, well, thank you very much. What's on your
mind tonight? I hope you agree with me?

Speaker 7 (23:08):
Oh my goodness, everything you mentioned I agree with you
one percent. Trump and his administration, like jd Vance, is
for their own agenda. Pete Heix, Matt Heix and Tom Holman,
they all are corrupted people and they're literally putting lots

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of division and chaos and turmoil in this beautiful country
that we're living.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Well, Ron, what I was trying to talk about was people,
these young Republicans who made some racist, sexist, homophobic comments. Okay,
but I don't think jd Vance, whose wife happens to be,

(23:54):
you know, very different racial background as jd Vance, I
don't think that he holds those viewpoints. And I don't
think that Donald Trump. He's he says some crazy things,
but I don't believe that Trump in all honesty, I'm
going to disagree with you. I don't think that Trump

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is antisemitic. I don't think that Trump is racist. I
think that he looks for people who he agrees with
and who he thinks are qualified his his FBI director.
You know, he doesn't have a cabinet that looks like him.
He is a cabinet that thinks like him. And I
think that's a that's different. Now he does say crazy things.

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I will agree with you on that, but I think
to to impute to him the same thoughts and ideas
that these young people put in this group.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Chad, I'm not sure that's fair.

Speaker 7 (24:53):
Yeah, but Dan, look at look at how much division,
how much KALs, how much turne oil and with their
own like whatever they're doing, it's they all are working,
even they're looking at Christianity and bringing up Jesus Christ
for their own agenda, and by wearing like again, I'm

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not I'm trying not to judge anything or anyone. Our
Lord Jesus Christ is a man of unity, is a
God of unity, is a god of love, not division.
Jesus Christ came here to do atonement for salvation of humanity.
The way they are working and they're doing things making

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division and chaos and turmoil, this country is going to
go down, God forbid. We cannot tell you from their families.

Speaker 4 (25:46):
So therefore you think that people who support Donald Trump,
I do not believe in Jesus.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Is that what you're what you're telling me.

Speaker 7 (25:54):
No, I'm saying their belief. But what Bible are they reading?

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Literally?

Speaker 7 (25:59):
What they?

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Well, some some read Bibles.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
There are a lot of Christians, particularly people who have
with a Catholic, who are not especially Bible biblically oriented,
but there are. But again, I think that that Donald
Trump is a is a guy that looks if if
you agree with him. I don't think he hears if
you're you know, white, black, what whatever, you're Jewish or

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what you know, it doesn't matter. He has members in
his cabinet who happen to be gay, but but they.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
They aren't advertising that.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
He looks for people who agree with him anyway, said,
I got to get to a whole bunch of callers.
I'm trying to focus on hateful speech, and I think
you're politicizing it a little bit. We can talk politics
any night.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
But I don't think people are scared of him. And unfortunately,
you know, this is how he is creating a lot
of divisions. And our God, the Lord Jesus, is a
god of uniquy and love and is not as for
everyone and everyone. We should look at everyone as an
image bearer of God, not there is. Like three weeks ago,

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Charlie Kirk said, all those those of stuff that like people,
black people don't have a brain power to you know,
become I don't want to mention their names to become
this and that in higher authority.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
And I think that if you listen to Charlie Kirk,
there were things that were attributed to him. I don't
know much about Charlie Kirk, but I listened in the
last few weeks and he seemed.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
To be very faith oriented.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
There was you know again, I just don't want to
turn this into a Charlie Kirk discussion.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
He lost his life.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
He was a victim of political violence, which should never occur.
Here said I got to run. I got other calls.

Speaker 7 (27:56):
I thank you so much. God bless you.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Thank you, and God bless you as well. To have
a great night.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
We'll take a break, coming right back on Nightside.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Night Side, Dan Ray, I'MBZ Boston's news Radio.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Next up, Jamie in winth Jamie, appreciate you calling in.
I think go right ahead.

Speaker 8 (28:15):
Hi, Dan him, I need to give you my background
to explain this. Although I am one Irish Venezuela's Catholic.
I was brought up as an Irish Catholic. But I
grew up in a very very integrated small village in
New York State, a lot of white Jewish folks, blacks,

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Latinos Protestants. I went to a college that had majority
white Jewish boys and girls students.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Okay, where'd you go?

Speaker 8 (28:49):
It's called now They're changed the names four times and
they went to Why no one knows who they are.
It's now called Binghamton University, Sudnia, Bahampton.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah, sure, sooney Binghamton, know what that is?

Speaker 8 (29:02):
Yeah? Anyway, Understandably, the Jewish young Jewish men and girl
young women wanted to go out with each other, and
I ended up meeting a number of white male Protestants. Unfortunately,
almost every one of them. When we would be getting

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to know each other, we could be talking about something
to add a little levity fly fishing in Alaska, and
they would need to interrupt the conversation to list all
of their prejudices, starting unfortunately, with the Jewish people going
to the blacks in the eighties.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
In the eighties.

Speaker 8 (29:50):
In the eighties, this is twenty years after civil right. Yeah,
after the Kennedys, and all I can tell you is
that the only prejudice they didn't have was Irish Catholics.
And you know why because I was sitting in front
of them.

Speaker 9 (30:08):
Okay, okay, well fair enough, Okay again, Unfortunately, I was
hoping that since we're about forty years past the nineteen eighties,
these these kids.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
I was surprised to see this. I was most disappointed
than surprised. Let me put it like that.

Speaker 8 (30:24):
Okay, yeah, but I'm not because these kids are those boys,
children and even grandchildren, and unfortunately it's there.

Speaker 6 (30:36):
They hide it.

Speaker 8 (30:37):
Well, these probably mostly young men. I'm guessing from our
topic tonight, mostly young men. I'm guessing it's men.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
The article that I read it it seemed to be
that they were. I think there was some reference to
some female comments as well. But okay, you should you
should read the New York Times article if you get
a chance.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Okay, it was originally a political article.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
So I'm sorry that you had that experience. I hope
that you found someone of whatever background who you've had
a wonderful life with, whether it was a Suny, Binghamton
or somewhere else.

Speaker 8 (31:14):
Okay, right, right, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did not.
You can imagine because I grew up in among Jewish folks.
They were my friends, including two surrogate mothers. So when
they said these things to me, it was very hurtful.
But anyway, I only calling because it's out there. Okay,

(31:37):
wellieve it continues to be out there.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
I hope that when those.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Students, fellow students said some of those things to you,
that you had an opportunity to tell them, you know,
as kindly perhaps, but also as strongly as possible. I
just don't agree with you on those sort of comments.
Why don't we go back to talking about fly fishing.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
And then great?

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Anyway, I got to watch, Jamie. I want to get
one more in here before the.

Speaker 8 (32:06):
News to your listeners is some of them are my friends.
I mean, you can mention that to people. Okay, I'll
let you go, Dan.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
That's that's a good thing to mention.

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Absolutely. Hopefully all of us have more and more friends
of different backgrounds. Thanks, thanks, Jamie, appreciated. Let me go
to John and Pennsylvania John next on nights.

Speaker 10 (32:23):
I go ahead, Well, thank you for taking my call. No,
I didn't find the revelation surprising, nor was it surprising
that JD. Vance attempted to rationalize and dismiss the statements. Oh,
and they were not the work of kids, quote unquote.
These were young men and one woman, anywhere from their

(32:45):
mid twenties to their early thirties.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
I got the impression. I got the impression that they
were mostly well, they that they probably were college students.
Some of them had apparently.

Speaker 10 (32:56):
As a state senator.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah, I know, but he supposed he was a very
young kid, a young guy, young person. Okay, I'm not
trying to You heard my comments, so I'm not trying
to diminish what was said. But I don't think I'm
looking at a picture of this guy. He looks to
me like he's probably twenty three or twenty four.

Speaker 10 (33:14):
Yeah, so the mid twenties through early thirties.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
Well, again, I don't have I assure you.

Speaker 10 (33:19):
When I was when I was that age, I wasn't
making homophobic comments. I wasn't referencing well, they didn't even
use me. They even use the aphorism of the N word.
I wasn't making blatantly sexist comments. I wasn't making comments
admiring of Hitler, even in a joking fashion, but as

(33:39):
I said, I mean, it's not surprised that jd. Vans
can't condemn them because the man who's at whose Gracie serves,
has a history of making metrocious and offensive comments, you know,
bragging about sexual assault, telling for non white congresswomen that

(34:02):
they should go back to the country. Is that the uh,
the third world countries they came from and clean them up,
even though three of them were born here in the
United States and all four were American citizens. And yes,
that there's a there's a big racist assumption built into
that comment, and you know there is.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
I think you have to.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Well, I'm giving you a chance to say what you
want to say. If you have a finished forehead.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Sure, I finished you.

Speaker 10 (34:34):
If you if you have to defend and rationalize those
and the entire Republican Party has to do so, then
how is it how how would you condemn the statements
made by the by the end Republican group.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Well, well, first of all, I think there's a substantial
difference between what jd Vance said. Okay, uh jd Vance
happens to be married to a woman who is not
Anglo Saxon.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
I'm sure you notice that.

Speaker 10 (35:00):
Right, Yeah, that makes it worse, he should take it
more personally because they also made a crude, offensive joke
about an Indian woman.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Yeah, I saw that one. I did not include that
in my commentary. You heard my commentary. All I'm saying
is that the Republican Party has to clean him up,
and the Democratic Party has to clean him up as well,
and we as a society have to clean it up. Okay,
It's as simple as that. And you know again, you

(35:28):
I know, just don't tolerate Trump. There's nothing that Trump
is ever gonna do that's gonna please John from Pennsylvania.
You know, I accept that that's a point of view
that you have. I would suggest to you that I
look at Trump a little differently. I don't look at
him as in a syncophantic way whatsoever if you listen

(35:50):
to my show. But when he does something that is
I think positive, such as taking out the Iranian nuclear threat,
such as maybe maybe paving the way for some peace
in the Middle East, and closing the border to people
who are coming here illegally, and particularly people who are
coming here illegally with dangerous criminal records, I'll give him

(36:14):
credit for those, John, although I know you probably won't.

Speaker 10 (36:18):
In regards to that, I'm going to quote Ed Bradley
and what Ed Bradley said in reference to people who
tried to mitigate Richard Nixon's history by saying, well, if
you take away Watergate and well a lot of other transgressions,
then wasn't he a good president? And to that, Bradley said,

(36:39):
that's like seeing someone's good looking except for their face.
You can't be a criminal and be a good president.
First and foremost. I believe Donald Trump is a criminal
and he's contemptuous of the constitution. Yeah, he can't be
a good president.

Speaker 4 (36:54):
Yeah, well that's fine. Let us see how history judges him. John,
I knew exactly where you were coming from, and that's
why I gave you plenty of wide birth tonight. But
unfortunately I'm looking at the newscast, so I gotta let
you go. Thanks, as always for calling. All points of
view are more than welcome, and you proved for me
every night.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
Thank you, John, appreciate it. We'll be back.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
I would like to continue with this conversation if you
have the courage six one, seven, two, five, four ten
thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. I
think it's an important conversation to have and I hope
you have the courage, as Dan rather said, courage back
after the eleven o'clock news Here on night Side, an
interesting hour.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Feel free to join the conversation
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