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Speaker 1 (00:01):
With Dan Ray. I'm telling you Boston's and News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
So we're going to continue with this conversation as difficult
as some people want to try to make it, which
is fine. I am referring to an article that was
in the piece Political Politico on Tuesday, picked up in
the New York Times yesterday, and I felt that we
wanted to talk about it tonight. There are a bunch
of young members of members of what's called Young Republicans
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who have made in a in a chat room some racist, sexist,
antisemitic statements, homophobic statements, and I think it's up to
the Republican Party to denounce those. I criticized J. D
Vance for seemingly not denouncing them. He tried to compare
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those comments to what were the comments that were made
by a candidate for Attorney jen in Virginia from a
couple of years ago, when the candidate from West Virginia
from Virginia said that the I believe the House speaker
in Virginia at the time deserved to be killed and
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also that he should watch his kids die. Pretty hateful stuff,
but this is stuff that is coming from Young Republicans,
and I'm hoping I'm hoping that people out there who
might be supporters of Donald Trump. The last hour turned
into a you know, this is why I hate Donald
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Trump hour, which is fine, okay, but that would ask
the question in my mind to those folks, and I didn't,
but I'll ask it rhetorically. Does that mean that they
think that Jewish people, black people, are gay, people who
are in the Trump administration or who buy the millions
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voted for Donald Trump are just evil people as you
think Donald Trump is evil? Or do you think those
people who happen to be black, who happened to be Jewish,
who happened to be Hispanic, who happened to be young,
who happen to be gay, are they really just not
as smart as you. I believe that that there are
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people of all backgrounds in this country who will vote Democratic,
and all backgrounds in this country who are likely to
vote Republican, and I think that's good for the country.
So we don't have a situation where one group only believes.
Back in the in the the post Bellum South, when
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the ku Klux Klaian was formed by the Democrats at
the time and went around stringing black people up, that
was because whites truly as a group either hated blacks
or were too afraid to tell other whites they didn't.
And that's the problem that I think we get into
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in our society here. Now. I know that there are
people out there who do suffer from Trump derangement syndrome,
and there's nothing Trump can do, nothing that Trump can do.
Those folks will never, I think, ever admit that. But
I'm not talking to them tonight. I mean I'm talking
to them because they're calling, and they more than can
welcome to continue to call. What I'm saying is there
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should be a clarion call across the political spectrum Democrats, independents, Republicans, whatever, socialists, libertarians, whatever,
who should denounce racist, anti Semitic, vile comments. We saw
plenty of anti semitism coming from people on college campuses
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who consider themselves quote unquote progressives or liberals. Okay, doesn't
make those comments are wrong, just as the comments of
these young Republicans, a handful of young Republicans are wrong.
I need and they need to be called out. I
hope you'll join the conversation if you follow what I'm saying,
and if you don't, you can join the conversation as well.
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I read this and I thought to myself, how can
you be a conservative? How can you be a profess conservatism?
Inherent within conservatism is the power of the individual, the
ability for all of us to succeed if given an opportunity.
That's what we believe. That's what I believe. It's antithetical
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to what these folks mild. These these these comments that
they mout They mouthed. Jamie from Winthrop said that she
heard them forty years ago, and she believes that these
are the children of people who she heard from forty
years ago. That's a potential rational conclusion. Let's go to
the phones. I have some open lines one at six
one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty and one at
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UH six one seven, nine, three ten thirty. Race and
anti semitism, racism, antisemitism, some homophobia, never comfortable questions to
entertain and to talk about. Okay, subjects to talk about.
But guess what I feel an obligation and I hope
you feel an obligation to participate. Ida is in gloss
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to Ida, thank you very much for calling in. Thank
you for your patients waiting through the news. You're next
on Nightside go right ahead.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Thanks for taking my call. Dan, you very well, so thanks.
I just wanted to first answer your question. I don't
believe that all people who voted for Trump are evil.
That's kind of the silly statement. I think a lot
of people who still support him, you know, full throttle,
are looking at things through rose colored glasses. I think
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many of them are still very naive, and I think
if you're not looking at I mean, yes, it's great
that we, you know, are have enforced our borders, but
it's also not great that the leaders of our country
are calling people the enemy within or vermin or. When
you use language that is dehumanizing, or action and towards
people in our country that are dehumanizing, that trickles out
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into society. So it's not surprising to me that these
kids said that. It is very hurtful to me, and
I understand that you felt the same way. Is that jd.
Vance made excuses for them. He in fact, when you
talked about his own children, he said he would warn
them to be careful about what they said because people
could use it against them, instead of teaching them that
it is inherently wrong to say and thank certain things.
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So I don't want to turn it into a totally
political thing. But I think we're underestimating the power that
these leaders with great voices, who we hear all of
the time. These messages come through and people internalize them,
especially young, impressionable people. It's going to happen if those
leaders of our cot are not careful with that.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Let me ask you the question, Okay. I believe that
the polls following the twenty the twenty four elections showed
that more Blacks voted for Donald Trump than any Republican
in recent history. Uh, that black men had voted for him,
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especially heavily, uh compared to other races. Donald Trump has
probably been as strong a president in support of Israel,
and I think that has helped him with Jewish voters,
Latina voters. Latina voters voted for Donald Trump more. Donald Trump,
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for whatever uh communication issue that that you perceive and
that I might perceive, is able to command loyalty amongst
a variety of racial groups.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
He has gay members in his in his cabinet, he
has his cabinet, UH has has women. Uh he has
a female Attorney general. I mean, you know, he has
the commonalty of the people that they support what he
is doing.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Okay, how many black people are in his cabinet?
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Uh? Well, let me uh in in his first cabinet,
obviously he had the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
I'm sorry for forgive me, but today, how many black
people are in his cabinet?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I don't know. I'm I'm blanking on that, to be
really honest with you. Uh and I will, I will
look it up. Uh And I I know that Cash Patel,
as the director of the FBI is not technically in
the cabinet. But but he had, he had more, he
has he has Black members of Congress. Tim Scott, black
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senator from South Carolina, is extraordinarily supportive of Donald Trump. Uh.
Congressman who's running for governor of Florida, happens to be black.
You know again, Will, I will get that figure for
you as quickly as I can. But but why don't
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you address the issues that I raised? Are the are
the blacks and the Jewish people who have voted for
Donald Trump? The gay people who have voted for Donald Trump?
Gay people in his cabinet? Are they just not as
smart as you?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm replying it is.
I mean, it is a little odd to me that
people would would vote in that direction. And I've seen
a lot of gay people close to me personally who
wanted change. They wanted the war in Gaza to end,
they wanted the war in Ukraine to end. They wanted
these things to happen, and they did not quite see
things that way. I mean, as we've seen it, the
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ceasefire has already been broken. Biden had a ceasefire plan
in already drafted and they were going to present it.
And then Trump Button had a meeting with Mett Yahoo
before the elections, and then we and behold, eight months later,
now we have, you know, or nine months later, however
many months has been. Now we have the same exact
seas fire arrangement that we knew wasn't I mean, at
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least personally, I knew from day one it was never
going to stick because Israel constantly comes up with excuses
to break the seasefire.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, okay, so you're you're getting into that you're anti Israeli.
You're anti No no no no.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
No no no no no no no. I want because
not anti Israli. I'm looking at because I am looking
at the history pre pre October seventh. Okay, if you
look at the entire history, there are plenty of Israelis
who do not want this. I never said I was
anti Israel, anti Knight in Yaho.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Oh okay, So so therefore the Israeli people choose that, yahoo.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
And that, by the way, with the hostages who were released,
you do believe that those hostages have been released? Right?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Sure? Okay? Do you give Donald Trump any credit for
the real of those hostages? The Israeli people.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Seem to ida, oh, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Appreciate that. Okay, So you're going to give him credit
for that. He's attempting.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Remember I've done this a long time ago before Oh yeah,
countless Palestinians were murdered.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Again, you're reinforcing my belief that you're anti Israeli. Here
would it would any of you?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
I do not appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, that's fine, that's fine. It's very clear what you believe.
My question is what caused the death of the Palestinians.
Do you think the Palestinians who died? And by the way,
I think that number probably is overstated because the source
of that is the Palestinian authority, uh inside of Gaza.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I could say right now that your opinion on Palestinians
is very clear, and that is very just. It's very
off put But I'm still sitting here having a conversation
with you.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I haven't hung up on you either. I haven't hung
up on you either. So the question I'm asking to
you is, would have this number of Palestinians whose death
I'm not happy about? But what would have you done
as of October seventh? If you were net and Yahoo,
what have you said let's have a peace treaty? I mean,
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who who died on the morning of who died in
the morning of October the sixth? Let me finish my question,
Me finish my question? Why did you let me finish
my question? Who? Who started this latest fight? Who attacked
Israel on October the seventh October, in the morning of
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October the sixth? Who attacked Israel? Hamas correct? You could
say it, you can well, because I'm trying to I'm
trying to get an answer from you.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
It was Hamas. It was good, okay, who were fighting
back that had grown up in a concentration camp. And
I don't use that word lightly. That was stated by
By and Israeli leader.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
You've said it all. I thank you very much. You've
expressed yourself. Fine, you've expressed again.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
See right now you're talking to me as if you're
smarter than me, and that.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
You will say to you if you if if the
if the music festival was not attacked, if men.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
If wasn't right outside the gates of a concentration camp
where people had everything limited going in there, including jam?
Do you know they weren't even allowed to have jam?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
What?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
What?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
That's a good enough reason to kill twelve That's a
great reason to kill twelve hundred.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
You take everything all day from people and they have
nothing to grow up with. They are raised in a
state of trauma and fear their entire life. They have
nothing to live for. Killed your life?
Speaker 5 (14:05):
How would you if that item?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
I'm not excusing it's.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Are you not? Oh? I know you're not. But you're
blaming Israel. It's all Israel's fault, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Ida Really you're saying that none of it is, none
of it is. Differently it happened, none of it is.
Because that's one question that you I mean, you're sounding
a lot like here's Morgan did in the beginning, and
either here's Morgan has changed his idea on things at
this point.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Well, I I don't follow what Pierce Morgan says. I mean,
I I hardly even know I know who's he's an
English commentator, but I follow I follow history. I know
how the state of Israel is created. Oh, I'm so
sorry to upset you. I'm going to let you go.
You have the best caller of the night. Thank you
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very much. I appreciate that. The reason she's the best
call of the night is she's made I mean, how
can you be that anti Israeli at this point, I
don't know. And also Donald Trump, I mean Donald Trump
gets no credit for anything anything anyway, a bad case
of GDS. We'll be back after this one night.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Shub It's NIC's Eye with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
By the way, just to answer a couple of IIS
questions in terms of Donald Trump's cabinet, his Secretary of
Housing in Urban Development is Scott Turner, who happens to
be a black man. His secretary of Labor is Laurie
Chavez de Raymer, she happens to be a Hispanic woman.
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Let me see there there are others that I will
cite for you here. I'm not going to go into
the game members because I'm not sure how many of
them have come out or not. But there are other
others in these Democrats, Robert F. Kennedy, Junior women, Pam Bondi.
Yeah again it is Marco Rubio, Hispanic male. So yeah,
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I mean there's there's some. I'd like to see more,
but there's some. Let's keep rolling here. I'm gonna go
to Eileen and Waltham. Eileen, welcome back.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
How are you good?
Speaker 7 (16:27):
Thanks Dan? How are you deceived me? Although you must
be exhausted after that lost conversation?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Well, I was trying as best I could to have
a conversation, but I got to be honest with you.
I think Ida was virulently anti Israel. She frames it
in the sense of anti net Yahoo. But I don't
know that there's any other Israeli Prime minister who would
have responded differently to what happened on October sixth, twenty
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twenty three.
Speaker 7 (16:54):
I think she's ignorant about all the history of the
Middle East.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, she's not only history about the history of the
Middle East. But and again I don't want to attack.
But the fact of the matter is that from the
Holocaust of World War Two, which I hope she realizes
historically did happen, the United Nations established the State of
Israel and the State of Israel has been under attack
by Arab forces for seventy seven years. Simple as that.
Speaker 7 (17:24):
And another interesting fact is all those Middle Eastern leaders
came out to support that piece to so it wasn't
just Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, yeah, but again it was a good caller. We'll
see what people have, how people will react to that call.
Your thoughts on these what I considered to be racist,
antisemitic comments made by these these sub members of Young
this Young Republican group.
Speaker 7 (17:51):
This is a saying violence is the tool of ignorance,
and I think violence rhetoric is the tool of the
ignorance and the cowardly, because they will incite other people
to do the violence for them. And these kinds of
racist whatever you want to call them, just playing ignorant comments,
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there's another way to describe them, the ignorant. They're violent,
and they're collaredly and they all get it. And if
you notice, it's always a group together that does this,
it's not individual people.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Usually well they can be individual people, but a lot
of individual people are functioning anonymously. You know, the person
who who scrawls something on the wall and nobody's around,
or someone who posts something anonymously. But when you're on
this group chat and people know who you are, and
you think that somehow your comments.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
And they encourage each other.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, I agree, we'll.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Encourage each other's ignorance and played English have a great idea.
You going forward.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Thank you very much, appreciate it. Let me keep rolling here.
We're going to go next to Michael and Attleborough. Michael,
I want to get you in here before the news
go right ahead.
Speaker 6 (19:06):
Dan, how are you what I'm trying to find out?
Do you know that this actually happened and it's not
just say you know, AI are some people that are
crime stir up things.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
No, I know. I think that it actually did happen.
I've seen enough reporting on it, and there's also been acknowledgement.
This is this young guy who's the state senator in Vermont.
His name is Samuel Douglas. He acknowledged that he made this.
He said, uh, there's there's comments where you know, some
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of these guys have said it was a stupid thing
for me to say. Uh, Douglas said, uh. Let me see,
he says, uh uh. He condemned the violent, disgusting comments
others in the group made, adding I have cut all
ties with those involved, said he plans to make another
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statement soon. I'm currently weighing all my options to ensure
that outcome of this is what's best for the safety
and well being of my family and my constituency. His
statement did not address the comments attributed to his wife
and the chat so yeah he uh yeah, no, this
is he. He was the one who made the comment. Uh.
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One one chap participant uh referred to a very obese
Indian woman. I don't know she was American, Indian or Indian.
Uh Indian from India. Uh and uh someone someone uh
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uh he said she didn't Yeah yeah yeah body shaming.
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
So you know, I just excuse me.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I just think my.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
Part of this might be set up, set up.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I don't If I thought so, I would have characterized
it as such. I see no evidence of that.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Okay, have a great night, Daan.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Thanks Michael, appreciate you call. Thank you. I have a
great one six one four thirty. That's the one line
that's open. Coming right back on night Side.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Night Side with Dan Ray on w BZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
All right, thank you very much, Dan Watkins. Jim in
Kansas City Gym. Next on Nightsiger, Right ahead, and hey, Jim, welcome.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Hey, thank you.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Well.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
This previous caller, Michael kind of stole my fire. But
if things happened as they're alleged, it's awful.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
But by the way, I do, I tend to do
my due diligence on this stuff. Jim. I you know,
I read the article in Political I read the article
in the New York Times, and I think the minimum
we hope is that these people learn a lesson. But
I think it's just important for all of us in
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our everyday life. When someone says something like that, you
jump on them, or you just say, hey, look, please
not around me. You know, I don't use that language.
I appreciate. It would be like if someone at a
at a at a dinner party, you know, dropped an
F bomb, most people say, WHOA, Well wait a second,
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hold on here, you know, uh, you know what I'm saying.
I mean, there's it's that, there's there's no there's certain
things for which there is no time and place. And
if you're going to use the N word, if you're
going to make antisement semitic comments, if you're going to
make racist comments, homophobic comments, you know it's the overdue
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date on that stuff should have expired a long time ago.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I hope you.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Agree, did you hear me?
Speaker 8 (23:00):
I said, uh huh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
No, right, I take that as an agreement. Go ahead.
I didn't mean to make a long statement. I want
to hear what you have to say. Go ahead, I'm listening.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Well, I mean, I know that pr campaigns, especially in politics,
run rapid. Sure, I've been in some places where they
actually produced them as a window cleaner. So I'd be
interested in knowing. Was it in a chat room, with
it on a mobile app, with it a group tax.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
It was in a chat room, it was in some
sort of a chat.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Room, Okay, did someone do some sort of an ID
check on them to make sure that whoever it was?
I just I just have very.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
You know.
Speaker 8 (23:40):
I mean, if you say it's true, then we'll do
for the sake of argument. We could say it's true
and I'll just going down and saying that it's awful
that it happened. But I mean, if there's nobody, you know,
if it's a limited audience, then there's not going to
be anybody there to say otherwise. And it would also
be interesting to know who was there and who's who
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signed off from that group or who you know. I mean,
I don't know what permissions you have to have to
be a part of that group, but I assuming you
have to, you know, be authorized to be up in
the group at the time, did anybody you know renounce
their membership to the group?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well, I can tell you that that again, according to
The New York Times, over seven months, twenty nine hundred
pages of messages sent out over telegram, which is a
chat location whatever elected Republicans and leaders in local groups
for young party activists in New York fromont Arizona and
Kansas routinely used racist and homophobic language and glibly invoked
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Hitler in the Holocaust.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
I guess i'd just be I don't know. I guess
I don't know about that telegraph app but I mean
it sounds isn't that one of the ones that's sort
of secretive or something, or would any how would anyone
know what? I just to me, there's just way too
many unanswered questions. And Okay, I don't after ever, since
that that Blair, uh, that Blair situation where the guy
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just completely fabricated a report, I don't consider The New
York Times to be a rock solid source anymore.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Okay, well I do, But but we can we can
agree to disagree in that and we can remain friends.
Thanks Jim. I appreciate your call. Has always talked to you. Soon,
Bye bye, Let's keep rolling. Here're gonna go to John
in Boston. John, you next on Nightside.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Thanks n There's just a couple of things I want
to say. The tunnels that are underneath Israel, that were
that were on the Gods, they have hundreds of hundreds
of miles of TOZ they weren't They didn't build those
for NBTA or to do Uber Eats deliveries. That moment
says they couldn't get jammed. Were you kidding me? They
had no problems getting rockets or grenades. They had machine guns.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Great. I wish I had thought of that point, John, Great,
great point, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
I mean, there are hundreds of miles that were they
were users, and they were launching attacks on these schools.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
In the right, and the and the and the only
place that they could build those tunnels were under schools
and hospitals.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
Yeah, and they can't get jammed, but they can get
thousands and thousands of rockets and the guns and the
power glide. How do you get it?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Sort? It must be a real shortage of jam in Gaza. Maybe,
I don't know if it was a specific type John
it might have been just Raspberry, I'm not sure, or
for his jam across the board.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Yes, and did she forget that yasa Arafat was trained
by Auto Skozeni, Hitler's favorite commando. Atto Skorzini also trained
the Muslim Brotherhood, Muslim Brotherhood training hamas and all the
terror techniques from Hitler's favorite commando. And now you get
the college students wearing yasa Arafats head dress and they're
calling Trump and the Republican's are Nazi when they're wearing
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yasa Arafat's head dress. That he was trained by Auto
skorzen He hit his favorite commando because well, look.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
It was an interesting call. I'm glad I'd have called.
I think that she she hung through the news. I'd
give her credit for that. And she had almost ten
minutes and it was a There was a lot of
talk over in the call. I would prefer to have
a call like this with you or we each makeout points.
I had a call with John, who dislikes Trump as
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much as any of my callers do, and it was civil.
But with Eida had kind of went back and forth,
and I think that, Hey, I thank you for the
points you made, because they were excellent points.
Speaker 5 (27:39):
Yeah, thank you. Those weren't tunnels for peace, they were
tunnels for ward did and they were all over the place,
hundreds and hundreds of mouths, and they were tunnels they
kept they were torching people in those tunnels.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Yep, you're absolutely right. But somehow because the Israelis kept
Jam out of there, it's justified Night's mind exactly.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
Thanks John in shame, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
You, Sue good night to keep rolling here where we're
gonna go next. Yes, Nick is in Winchester, Massachusetts. Nick,
appreciate your calling you next to a Knight sagga.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Right ahead, Hey Dan, how you doing buddy?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Better nights? But I'm okay, No.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Unfortunately, some people don't like to take take and not
taking sides, but give their input and have and give
an honest hands. But I seem you know, I like
the way you you say a peace, give people their views,
and unfortunately some people don't like it. But I can't
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stand up and say that. You know, I am a Republican.
You know that I'm a Trump guy.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
But for what these people came out and said and did,
it's totally just not right. Someone needs to speak up
and say this is not what we're all about. This
is what we need to do from this day going forward.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, well that's yeah, that's my message. And for some
a lot of people decided they're going to attack Trump
on this. Trump had nothing to do with this, but
they make the connection and they say, well, Trump basically
says some crazy things, and he does say some crazy things.
I mean, I thought one of the crazy things he
said yesterday, and I'll be interested. You're a Boston guy
like me or Winchester. But when Trump said he was
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thinking about taking the World Cup away from Boston, Uh, correct,
correct me if I'm wrong, Nick, But I think that
the World Cup is not played in Boston, but it's
played in Charlett Stadium. And if I'm not mistaken, the
owner of Jillette stadium is Bob Kraft, who's a friend
of Donald Trump's. I don't think there's any chance, but
Donald Trump's gonna take me wor couples.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
That's not even the point. The point is it's between
craft and in association.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, FIFA rights, the layhouse, right. I know, he just
loves he loves the troll people. I wish he would change.
I wish that he would agree that he would not
give a speech that goes for an hour and a half.
Uh and he goes back and forth. But in terms
of things that he does that are positive, I'm going
to give him credit, just like I I was going
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to give Joe Biden credit for things that he did
that were possible.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Absolutely, That's why I keep on listening, I keep on calling.
You're the number one talk show hosts around the United States.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Well, Nick, your your words to God's ears. I thank
you for that. You are now the best caller of
the night. Thanks. Thanks, I sure will pal talk to
you soon. Have a great night. Okay, let's keep rolling here.
I'm going to try to get people in. Bill. You
are next on Nice I go ahead, Bill, Bill, is
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Bill there or no? I've click clicked on him. Is
he there. Okay, I'll put him on hold and let
me see why I can get in here real quickly.
Let me go Tom and Boston. Thomas and Boston. You're
next one night side, Toma, scoreright ahead.
Speaker 9 (31:04):
Hey Dan, Just two quick points. Sure, I think when
people show you who they are, you should believe them.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Sure.
Speaker 9 (31:14):
And secondly, if you compare the responses of JD. Vance,
which basically said the people who leaked his suffers comebags,
and Mark Wayne Mullen, whose grandfather was in World War
Two and saw concentration camps and his response was basically,
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this is unacceptable, period, full stop.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yep. I'm with the senator from Oklahoma on that one.
I'm disappointed by what Vance said there. You know, he
could have he could have easily made his point and
said this is deplorable. Uh, it has to stop. I
don't want to have people in the party with which
you know he's affiliated. If if I've spoken the first
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first person, uh, you know, every you know, Look, I
think that's what he should have said. He then could
have said, on another message, I want again also deplore
the comments made by the Democratic candidate for Attorney generalists
in the state of Virginia, which were which were also deplorable,
at least the guys from what's that? Yeah, I mean,
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and you know, I just think that that we so
despise each other in this country and it's not good.
I watched those I didn't watch the videos because they
didn't show the videos. Did you see the pictures the
other day of these poor souls who had their handside
behind their back and they were being summarily they were
blindfolded and they were executed and by by boss.
Speaker 9 (32:50):
I couldn't see the video, but the picture.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Yeah, me too. I didn't see the video either. I
have seen video like that, and I just thought to myself,
you know, we live in this society where we give
people thirty years in prison before we execute them and
they have a million appeals. I want to live in
a society like that. I don't want to live in
a society whereas if I'm on the losing side of
a political campaign, I'm prayed out into the town hall
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and we should all get down on our knees and
thank God, uh that we that that we live in
the United States of America. Yeah, that's what thanks for call,
Thanks Thomas very much. Please, I don't know if you've
called before, but I want you to continue to call.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Okay, well, sir, I have a good night.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Thank you, sir, have a great one. Good night okay,
six one seven, and all of a sudden, if you've
been dialing, I got some lines six one seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Uh,
let's let's finish strong. We've had really two interesting hours
on this, a lot of emotion and a lot of
people have had their say, which is fine. That's what
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the program's all about.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I'm actually uh delighted that I'd have called. Uh, and
I hope the next time we call we can have
a more quiet conversation. But you know, passion is fine.
But both of us probably were a little more excited
than we should have been, so I would I would
say to you, you are more than welcome to come
on back and try it. I've had my calls with
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John from Pennsylvania, who was last called the last hour,
but we were pretty civil to each other tonight. So
six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven,
nine three thirty coming back on nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w BZY,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
All right, let's finish strong. Let me and I do
have a line or two available if you want to
get last word in six, one, seven, two, five, four
to ten thirty. John is in New York. John, welcome back.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
Hello Dan, Hi John.
Speaker 10 (34:55):
I'm sorry I missed to call the other day and
the message you left I couldn't on this. It was
very distorted and gobbled, and I'm clear I don't even
know what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Hmm, Well, I I'll have to call you back once again.
Leave your number with Rob for me, and I will
call you. You told me to call you between eleven
and two, and I think I called you at eleven thirty.
Speaker 10 (35:19):
Yeah, yeah, I just wasn't buy the phone. It was
outside or something.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I'm just saying, is that. You know, I try my best, John,
believe me, if I know. All you got to do
is leave you, leave your number with Rob again, and I.
Speaker 10 (35:34):
Will you call out a number that's unidentifiable so I
can't call you back.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I just leave you, leave your number with Rob, and
I will call you and then I will give you
a number you can call me back on. Okay, trust me,
it'll work.
Speaker 10 (35:54):
So now I I'm sorry. Go ahead, I threw up
at you.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
No, No, I'm listening. Go right ahead.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
Oh Israel. Okay, my dad ran a company that made
aircraft hydrola to the for military airplanes. Right, And when
I was a teenager, he would tell me sometimes at
the dinner table, like who we met that day? Who
came to the company? Right, Well, there were times these
Israeli offices from their air force came to visit it.
(36:24):
Why talking about spare parts for planes at the United
States got giving them assaulted whatever. Right, And he told
me about how they are one of the strongest allies
in that area in the world that we need to
have as friends.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
For many years, they were for many years, John, they
were the only ally that we had in that part
of the world.
Speaker 10 (36:48):
No, you're right. And their pilots, they're terrific people. The
pilots they have, they're great. A lot of people don't
realize that we have American Air Force pilots. I would
probably failure having one of them on their side in
a battle than one of wild guys because they're so aggressive,
well trained and smart. Okay, absolutely, this is no, no,
(37:12):
it's it's it's and I hope people in Bosson, in
the whole country you listen to what I'm saying, start
thinking about what I'm telling you, all right, because that's
really important for our straits of the world to have
friends like that in that area of the world.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I agree, I totally, there's no doubt about that one. John,
stay there, leave your number with Rob, give me a
time frame tomorrow and get back to you.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Okay, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
Don't hang up give Rob. Give Rob your number. Linda
in Weymouth, Linda, welcome next on nightside.
Speaker 11 (37:43):
Hi, Dan, I wasn't going to call because it was
getting late, and I have so much I like to say,
but the most important thing is that I one hundred
percent agree with you. I feel very sadly that JD.
Vance didn't elaborate a little bit more, because you know
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as well as I do that he's not a racist,
and neither was Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Vance came out of her remarkable. He came out of poverty,
just abject poverty. He's had three last names because his
mom had a last name and then the first guy
that that she married, and so his last name of
Vance is the third last name he's had in his life.
He came out of abject poverty, and I think I
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wish that I had been able to talk to him
and say, hey, look, you know, don't make this any
sort of what aboutism or comparison. Just denounce it, denounce
it strongly, exactly, and and tell those people if they
want to remain in the Republican Party, they need to
understand that the Republican Party and Conservatism is about the
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power of the individual. It always is the individual as
opposed to the group, and individuals, when given opportunities, whatever
their background, they can excel. And all Americans, whatever their
background is, they want the same thing. They want a
little more success than their parents. They want a home
where their family can grow up and they can and
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they can be safe and secure. They want their educator,
their children to be better educated than they are. That's
the commonality of America, whatever person's background is.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Right, Yep, Well, Linda, thank.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
You, thank you very much. You understand what I'm saying.
Some people didn't understand. Most people, most people, I think,
did understand. Others wanted it to turn it on on
a I'm not trying to make a political thing. I'm
trying to basically unify people and say, hey, we have
much more in common than we have in difference, simple
as that.
Speaker 11 (39:51):
That's right, Yeah, yeah, idea.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
And we're all lucky to be here in this country
that has been so bl us by God in.
Speaker 11 (40:01):
My opinion, Yes, we asked, yes, yes, amen to that.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Linda, thank you much. We'll end on an amen. Thank
you so much. Okay, have a great night.
Speaker 5 (40:08):
Thanks Linda. Good job. Yeah, talks to you.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Okay, thank you very much. Bye bye. I'll nd there's
always all dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven.
That's why Pal Charlie ray Is, who passed fifteen years
ago in Februy, that's all your pets are past. They
loved you and you love them. I do believe you'll
see them again. Hope, see you tomorrow night. We're getting
real close to Friday here, everybody. Rob Brooks, great job
that I'm busy night, Maria, good job. Thank all the callers,
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including Ida from from GLOUCESTERO. I'd to call back. We'll
talk again, I promise, and we'll have a better conversation
next time. Thanks everybody. I'll see you on Facebook in
a couple of minutes.