The Best SEO Podcast: Defining the Future of Search with LLM Visibility™

We dig into how podcasting, digital PR, and SEO now reinforce each other, especially as AI search tools pull answers from trusted third-party sources. We also share practical ways to turn press and interviews into long-term visibility while staying grounded when attention brings criticism. 

• why early podcasting works as a relationship builder and business flywheel 
• how press placements create credibility and authori...

We get brutally honest about why traffic is a vanity metric and how SEO only earns budget when it ties to real business outcomes. We lay out the data and reporting foundation you need to walk into the C-suite with confidence, even when attribution is messy and timelines are long. 

• separating vanity metrics from revenue-driving KPIs 
• building the business case for SEO with CFO-ready numbers 
• fixing data qua...

Join us for a special episode hosted by Geoff Campbell who is standing in for Matt Bertram, we focus on the part of marketing most teams ignore: turning existing traffic into real phone calls, form fills, and sales. We break down a simple conversion framework, why dynamic website messaging works, and how to think about proof, positioning, and AI search as buyer behavior changes. 

• traffic times conversion rate equals c...

We talk through what “AI visibility” really means and why marketers are racing ahead of the data, even as consumer behavior shifts toward AI search and AI assistants. We connect SEO fundamentals to GEO and agentic commerce so you can take practical steps instead of getting stuck in paralysis. 

• AI visibility tools and why the industry lacks a baseline standard
• How context and personalization change AI search ...

We talk about the real shift happening as AI moves from chatbot to teammate, and why persistent memory is the make or break layer for useful automation. We dig into governance, data hygiene, and practical workflow design so AI output gets better over time instead of turning into expensive noise. 

• moving the show toward YouTube and a more educational format 
• why memory matters when AI becomes a partner or agent&n...

We reconnect with Chris Burres to talk about the real mechanics of podcast marketing, brand legacy, and why consistency beats quick wins when you are trying to earn attention. We also zoom out into AI governance and longevity, from building AI-native workflows to the accelerating science behind ESS60 and “longevity escape velocity.” 

• the origin story behind EWR and what a rebrand really costs 
• podcas...

We get real about what AI search changes and what it does not, then map SEO back to fundamentals like attribution, buyer intent, and revenue. We also share how agency teams can use agent workflows and governance to move faster without turning the business into chaos.
• Matt’s return, agency ownership changes, and why the timing matters
• Cameron’s path from engineering to SEO through referrals and Google Busines...

In this episode of the Best SEO Podcast, hosted by Matthew Bertram, Zara Carbonell joins the show to talk about why AI makes content more important, not less, and how real trust now comes from human context and clear communication. We share practical ways to use AI to analyze performance, sharpen your personal brand, and reach buyers where they already spend attention. 

• AI as a tool that frees humans from repetitive marke...

We map the shift from chat-based AI to real agentic systems that can run workflows, manage memory, and publish results without constant human babysitting. We break down how to design AI agents like jobs so they stay grounded, cost-controlled, and useful for marketing, SEO, and software work. 

• tiering AI use from assistance to automation to full agents with memory and tools 
• writing a clear job description with input...

We talk with Lynn Ward about why marketing is shifting from search and retrieve to solve my problem, and why speed is becoming the moat for agencies and clients alike. We break down what AI-first agencies are building right now to protect conversions, reduce bottlenecks, and stay visible as web traffic and SEO change.

• search behavior shifting as ChatGPT and other LLMs absorb intent
• speed as the new moat for agencies and o...

Matthew Bertram sits down with David Albert of CRO Metrics to unpack what is actually changing across SEO, AEO, GEO, LLM visibility, and the modern stack as tools like Claude Code make custom apps and automations feel effortless.

• the shift from bloated martech stacks to custom AI middleware and small internal apps 
• why compliance, governance, and shadow AI access are now daily marketing risks 
• using guardrails ...

We trace the fast shift from link-based search to AI-generated answers and show how that change reshapes content, measurement, and strategy. Connor Kimball of Cairrot shares data on LLM traffic surges, concrete AEO tactics, and how unified analytics reveals brand lift beyond referral clicks.

• AI search replacing link lists with answers
• AEO as the method, LLM visibility as the metric
• Informational traffic down, tra...

We dive into how AI is reshaping marketing law and what agencies can do today to protect work, clients, and brand trust. Sharon Toerek shares a practical playbook for policies, contracts, and IP strategy while courts and states sort out the rules.

• AI ownership and liability questions for agencies
• Copyright cases on training data and outputs
• State patchwork versus federal pressure on AI rules
• Practical guardr...

We cut through AI hype to show what actually scales: disciplined ops, brand-led content, and a practical framework for awareness, nurturing, and trust. Eric Huberman shares Hawk Media’s scaling lessons, where AI helps, where it hurts, and how to build a moat in a noisy market.

• LLM shifts to persona-first, Q&A-led visibility
• AI as acceleration, not strategy replacement
• Hiring and tooling only with clear ...

We push past rankings and traffic to map the real skills SEOs need to influence AI answers. Duane Forrester explains the machine layer, vector embeddings, semantic density, and why structured data is a must if you want reliable retrieval.

• AI reshapes marketing and elevates SEO’s role across the business
• Good SEO foundations as the prerequisite for AI performance
• Writing for chunks with high semantic density...

We unpack how search is changing as LLMs reshape discovery and why revenue, not rankings, should anchor your strategy. Corey Morris joins Matt to map a practical path: entity clarity, brand differentiation, GA4 fixes, and forward-looking KPIs that speak C-suite.

• shifting from keyword rankings to revenue KPIs
• LLM visibility layered on modern SEO foundations
• entity clarity, consistent data, and brand trust
• qua...

We unpack how AI finally lets marketers count what matters, why attribution is broken across platforms, and how to use behavioral insight and benchmarking to choose better bets. We share a simple playbook: listen in niche communities, test in organic, scale what pops, and measure outcomes not vanity.

• AI compressing the cost of data integration and analysis
• Platform bias, privacy limits and pixel gaps in attribution

We unpack how search is shifting from blue links to AI-driven answers and why clean data, focused positioning, and public citations now decide who gets recommended. Solomon Timothy joins us to share practical frameworks for AEO, prompt mapping, and measurable AI visibility.

• why prompts replace keywords across the funnel
• how to make content machine-readable with schema and FAQs
• why entity clarity and niche focus b...

We argue that SEO isn’t dying; bad SEO is. Fundamentals still drive wins while LLMs change how answers surface, making complete, original content and smart strategy more valuable than ever.

• fundamentals over fads as LLMs shift discovery
• why pages beyond top ten fuel LLM citations
• customer journey, CRO, PR, and dev fluency as real leverage
• global markets with lower competition and faster output
• ent...