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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I listen to the black guy who tips because
Rod and Karen are so hot.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
What I've arrived at after years of trial and error
is the idea of micro meditation. These are brief and
intense phases of departure from the self. They bring you
out of the moment, whether it's a heated argument or
professional crisis, or even just the mourning doldrums before your
mind is moving into a different kind of moment, just
for a moment, and then they return you to the

(00:24):
exact same place you were before. Micro Meditations should last
a minute at most, and sometimes they aren't even that long.
Sometimes they are thirty seconds, sometimes fifteen. They're longer than
a blink, but shorter than sleep. Maybe they're like a
slow wink. They aren't long enough to relax you entirely.
They don't require any special apparatus or condition In some ways,

(00:45):
if they're done correctly, they won't seem like meditation at all,
but rather a stepping back and are surveying. They work,
at least for me, because they engage both parts of
my brain, the part that's right in a moment, pushing
against the task, and the part that considers, that's considering
the moment afar, they are a ground survey and an
aerial view when they split. When this split perspective is

(01:06):
perfected over time, it gives you the tools you need
to bring your own best ideas to the surface, to
assess them, to discard the ones that aren't working, to
commit to the ones that might work. This might seem
a little abstract, but no example springs to mind. Hold on,
I just did a micro meditation and an example sprung
to mind.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
See it works anyway. It happened at our first Roots
picnic in New York in twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
We had a great lineup in Bryant Park that included
John Mayor, DiAngelo Rozel, and lots of other artists.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
John Mayer was on stage with us and he was
heating up the place.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
He was on his very last solo and in those
last minutes, Keith McFee, the Roots production manager, came running
towards me. Keith, like many people I work with, thrives
on panic, and not just panic panic. In fact, that's
one of the conditions that certain positions in our operations,
the panic guy. I'm not natively like that. I leave
stones on turn. I need a staff that can function

(02:00):
like clockwork around me. That's another issue that I'll be
talking about throughout this book. In the back of my
mind and sometimes in the front of it, there's an
idea that certain times ain't over tender behavior, while incredibly
useful in the real world, are the enemy of creativity.
They prevent the mind from reaching his best ideas in
the best way. While I subscribe to that idea, I
also know that it's probably time for my subscription to end.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
But now it's not the time for that.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
I have a story to get through and there's most
of a book remaining. Anyway, I will read the rest
of the exert because it's long. But hey, welcome to
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Speaker 1 (03:42):
A bullet ball extreme.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Today's excerpt is from Creative Quests by Quest Love, and
he talks.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
About this tech technique.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
He uses to call it micro meditation where you know,
because I think when people think of meditation, you think
of like this long form like own somewhere quiet, peaceful,
closing your eyes, you know, maybe even using like an
audio like guide or somebody to talk you through meditation,
and it's gonna be like at least minutes, you know.

(04:13):
And this idea of micro meditation, and especially doing it
in times of panic, in times where the opposite feeling
is taken over. I love this idea.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I do something similar, but it's not. I wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I wouldn't label it meditation because I never I don't
know what meditation is like that. I haven't really tried it,
but I was. I do this thing where I slow
my brain down. I count in times of panic, so
like if I get injured in a at a basketball
court or something and I have to like walk to
my car and I know, you know, SIT's gonna hurt

(04:49):
or something like, I'll count, Like I'll count little things
like I'm gonna count the steps it takes to get
to the door. You know, I'm gonna count, you know
how you know? And I and I mean I will
sit like for a second, close my eyes and kind
of visualized things, you know, if I'm going to the doctor.
Sometimes I get nervous about that, get anxiety about it.

(05:09):
I'll count in my mind, like I'll count it down
or I'll visualize it and stuff and I think in
creative situations like we're doing the show, We've been in
situations where like right now, I'm uploading old episodes of
the show, and it's taken me back through memory lane
just seeing the titles, who the guests were, and remembering

(05:32):
when we first started this process, how nervous I was
about the show and you know, whether it would be
sound quality, the guests saying some wild shit, you know,
because we've always done this live.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
We've never edited a show. We've like so the wacky things.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
That happened where someone says some opinion or something. You're
just like, am I gonna argue about this? Am I
gonna let it pass? Am I gonna make a joke?
Am I gonna agree? Am I gonna let them.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Flesh it out? You know, things like this.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
And I've learned over time to kind of in my
brain while we're live on the air, take a second
and be like, wait, let me think about this in
my you know, in my head, and it might only
be fifteen seconds while I'm like, this is how because
I'm looking at the long view of the podcast and
all the people who are gonna hear it, but the
short view and the immediacy of me and Karen and
whoever is on the microphone with us talking. So you know,

(06:27):
stuff like that. I think this comes into handy for
and it's not something that is unattainable. It's something that
almost all of us have fifteen thirty seconds a minute
to be able to stop and focus and think about
a problem or think about something that's immediately in the
way and how we want to the spring ideas to
navigate it.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, and I think.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
For for me, I talk to myself, like in my
own mind, you know, to kind of calm and slow
it down and be like.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Okay, Karen, let us get it together, Like what is
it like? So you ain't got to analyze the.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Shit that's happening around you, you know, because sometimes things
that come at you so fast that sometimes you don't
really think about it, analyze it to see how to
property respond to it. And what I've realized a lot
of times when you don't analyze things and proper and
allow your mind to filter through those things, even if
it's nothing for a split second, you still have to

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analyze what you're gonna do next, or what the decision is.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
I realized that that kind of helps like you said,
slow down.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
I've started doing the a thing where I sit and
I count, Like I literally sit and count to slow
my brain down.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Cause and because this is.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Something that it just happened to me last year. I
never experienced it before.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
When I because I'm a true extrovert.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
And so for me, uh people and new places and
new things that is that it's a stimili to me,
and it causes excite meant around me, and it helps
keep my.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Energy level up.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
And then when I'm at home, my energy level goes
down because all the things that was causing all this
stimuli is gone, and then I'm dreamed.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
So when I transitioned from my.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Old job to my new job, I didn't realize it
was too much stemli for me at once. I didn't
realize that at the time, and Roger me and you know,
Roger talked about it and he kept saying, you know thing,
because what was happening was that I had like this
ball of energy. Everything was new. I had a new
route to work, I had bought new clothes, I was
around new employees, new working environment, new place where the

(08:40):
bathroom is, new place where the workroom is, you know,
new place to order food.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Like everything around.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Me was new, new workout routine, new new new new
new new new new new new new new, and I
didn't realize that all this newness was almost like a
super charged stimuli to me. And and Roger will tell
you my mind I was forgetting shit.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
I read. I ran into the rail with my car
and did the gate fit the.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Gate for our apartment complex and drove into it.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yes, because my mind was literally all over.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
The place where I literally couldn't It was like my
mind was on like a supercharge and it was going
like a zillion minutes a second, and no matter what
I did, I could not get it to slow down.
I couldn't understand it, and I didn't comprehend it. And
for me, that that that the micro thing for me

(09:39):
was when I thought about it, I was like, okay, ken,
what's happening was wrong?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
And I really thought about it, and I.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Was like something was like you need to start running again,
because I actually had stopped running. And when I started
running again, it was like all this energy that had.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Me on ten just started to dissipate.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
But it took that split second of me thinking, Okay,
can what is costing this? We're like what is the stimuli?
But you have to go through that process. And if
you don't allow yourself to go through that process, even
if it's nothing but a split second of analyzing it,
you end up making bad choices, bad decisions.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Then when you go through.

Speaker 4 (10:13):
Back and think, you but, oh, I shouldn't have did this,
I shouldn't have said that. Oh shit, I heard that
feeling because I was stressed and I didn't think about it,
like you start going through the I know, for me,
going through the regret phase of what you did, versus
if you just take a few seconds to realize if
I respond now, the response isn't going to be a
good one, and just know yourself enough to know that.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah. I think Also, we're in a place where we
react to everything. We're always reacting, not really thinking, not
really analyzing so much of what we've been filtered to do,
especially since the advent and social media's instant reaction. So
you know, Jada Pinkett does red table talk. The rest
of the day is all of.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Us reacting to it in the immediacy of it.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Right, I just saw a video I saw three minutes
and I gotta say something like, we're geared to do that,
and I think that happens, it carries over to offline,
like everything is what is my immediate reaction? What was
my feeling right now? I have to say, I have
to say it. And sometimes it's okay to sit with something.
Sometimes okay to sit stop and reflect.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
And I remember, you.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Know, especially I had noticed stuff already, like I know,
you're just that week that you had started that job,
the new job. You know, I just noticed a few things,
you know, around the house, like little stuff like you know,
like you said, forgetting little things and being really nervous
about all the stuff. And I think, you know, you know,
I'm kind of a patient person. So my thing was

(11:37):
like it'll probably work itself out. It's just a bunch
of new stimuli, and you know, she'll Karen will calm
down eventually.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
But then you drove into the fence.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
And then if I got my shoes, yeah, and so
when you drove into the fence, that was when I
think we were you know, like I think that was
when I.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Was like, okay, we have to sit down and talk.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
It's all yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
And you know, I wasn't fuscinate you or nothing. I
just was like, you know, breathe, you know, yeah, like
we because I was, Yeah, I'm like, slow down, breathe,
take a minute, so absorb it all in. You're going
through a lot. Let me know what I can do
to help, let me know what we need to do,
Like should we take a week off of the show?
Should we? Because I think we did take some time

(12:21):
off the show. He started a new job, But it
was like should we you know, like what all do
we need to do to make it so that this
isn't so overwhelming? And you know, what all do you
need to you know, adjust to and get you know,
And I mean it takes time with this stuff, and
like I said, for me, it's more like creative stuff

(12:41):
on the fly, you know. It's Yeah, a perfect example.
We got to the library when we did our live
Library podcast, and nobody really knows it because you know,
we're pretty professional and I'm pretty good at what we
do at this point. But we got there and I
think I forgot a mike stay at home or something.

(13:02):
So we had to record that whole show with one
mic for Alisha, who was our guest on the podcast,
and me and you had to split a mic, which
we haven't done since we started the show. But you know,
I remember like hooking everything up because we got there early,
and I'm like, people are coming in the room early.

(13:24):
Apparently someone's at the door, and Karen's pond is not
only anyway people got to the just fifteen seconds of
meditation on a second.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Okay, she'd be good now.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
All right, but now they people got there early, and
you know, I'm sitting there panicking, like what the fuck
are we gonna do?

Speaker 1 (13:41):
How are we gonna record?

Speaker 2 (13:41):
This? Is Alisha gonna not have a microphone? Are we
gonna have to give her a microphone? And then I'll
be on Mike and then Karen will take over the
mic and then I'll be on Mike, like and we
figured it out through positioning it and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
And of course, you know, we had to worry about the.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Internet at the library read this like could we go live?
How what was the password to the wild Fi? And
there's all this stuff that's happening, all this stuff that's happening,
and it's the time delay in the time crunch, and
you know, I just I really just naturally had to
stop and be like, okay, this is okay. The worst
thing that can happen is we're not able to go live,

(14:19):
but less at least exhaust those possibilities and try to
do it. And we were able to go live, Okay,
we don't have We're not gonna have access to three mics.
We only got two. Okay, we're gonna figure this out.
I can angle this mic, we can hold it a
certain way, and we can still have a good audio
as well as a good live show for the people
in the room, you know, people asking us questions. People

(14:42):
you know, like all this stuff is happening and it's
and it's live and there's no do overs.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Everyone can see it.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
And yeah, there's these moments while you have to stop
and be like, let me freeze everything and then.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Look at this creatively. How do we solve this problem?

Speaker 2 (14:58):
You know, because we had wanted like a mic for
the audience to ask questions, but you know, it turns out,
you know, okay, we'll just have them ask questions. I'll
repeat the question and then we'll answer the question. And
that's how we'll do it. So, you know, just little
stuff like that, I think, you know, really really helps
and I think it can help people in just any
any field.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, in any situation and.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
To kind of go back to some of the things
we talked about right now, the way social media and
the way life and everything is designed now, it's designed
to trick you into making instant decisions. And there are
people like their whole job is once they get you
to make a decision that isn't well thought out and

(15:44):
isn't well analyzed, they can manipulate you into getting you
to do anything that they want you to do. This
is why people are so mad and angry and upset
or sad and depressed all the time, or have anxiety
because you hadn't really analyzed and thought about why do
I feel this way and what is making me do
this with Because like you said, sometimes when you sit
and you analyze things and you slow things down, you
can actually see things like just literally sit and close

(16:07):
your eyes and breathe, breath in, breath out, and just
let your mind go into nothingness. And what I've realized
for a lot of people that nothingness is a scary
ass place. That's why people don't like to do things
that cause them to stop. That's why people don't like
to do things that causes them to reflect. Like you

(16:28):
have a lot of people that you meet, they always busy,
They want to constantly do something.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
They don't ever want to be alone.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
They don't ever want to meditate, They don't ever want
to do anything that will cause them to sit and
get in their own mind, because their mind.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Is just full of chaos. So how can you calm
something down that's.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Already full of chaos and ask it to focus on
a certain thing when there's nothing in it coming?

Speaker 2 (16:50):
And if you're not good company for yourself, you're gonna
be constantly looking for outside things to be focused on. Correct,
you know it's because you're not come with yourself. Is
because you're not you know, you don't want to sit
in that nothingness, like you said, because the nothingness is
really you. Yes, so you don't want to sit with you.
So the next thing, you know, you're not happy. Your

(17:13):
marriage is falling apart. Your marriage is falling apart. Now
you know, you start looking for other people to try
to like, heal, You look for other people to talk to,
and now you got some twenty two year old man
that you over here trying to heal. But you know
it's it comes acquires our sexual relationship, and now you

(17:33):
haven't an affair, but not really because you separated and
you doing your own thing and your man doing your
own thing, you know, but you like a grown woman
and this person is, you know, kind of a little
too immature and going through paying themselves and you haven't
worked on healing yourself. And then you start healing yourself,
and then your husband want to come back.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
And be like, look, oh maybe we should work this out.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
We're not gonna make we're not gonna get a divorce,
you know, And so then you gotta tell this other
person you done brought into this thing.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Hey, I was hurt.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
I'm I'm you know, I'm gonna go back to my husband.
I've been working on healing myself, and you know, I
can't really heal you because I'm not healed and I
and I was just always looking for a reason to
escape myself, which is why I even started this toward affair.
And now that person's hurt, they don't want to talk
to you no more, you know, which is their right,
because they've been hurt by you, you know, and they

(18:24):
feel that it's that they thought they had something special
with you, and you broke them off, you broke they back,
and so they ain't never had they back broke by
no grown ass women at this point, so they're not
gonna be over this.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
And years later they tell the world this story, and.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Now you got to go out on your platform and
try to fucking tell people what really happened. But people
don't really care what really happened because we already have
an idea of who you are, you know what I'm saying,
So we don't really give a fuck what you said.
We already came up with our predispsulg opinions on what
it's gonna be, you know.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
So now you got to deal with all this projection.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
That's coming your way, and the only way to make
it through is to be secure in yourself. You know.
You gotta bring your husband out, and now he gotta
tell the world, hey, I've been known this, but it's
a new type of pain because he gotta tell the
world that he known this, so he like he The
tears in his face could be from empathy for you,
It could be from empathy for the person that you

(19:19):
had this relationship with. It could just be embarrassment of Hey,
the world is in our business and I'm a more
of a private person than this It could be so
many things that could be happening.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
But the point is, if you.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Would have taken thirty seconds to meditate, maybe you could
have avoided all this shit because you would have been like,
oh wait, this is the bigger picture of how how
this is going to look, and this is the micro
picture of how I'm acting within this moment. And maybe
you could have saved everybody some heartache. But that's just
my opinion. I don't know nothing, butterfly in the guy

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They are racist too, Thank you.

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think they are around the same age as my wife
and I. We were supposed to go and see the
live performance last year around the wife's b day.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Love the political talk and the human.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
They do a great job talking about serious issues as well.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
You We try, we try, you know. And those are
all the iTunes reviews and Vember you can go to iTunes.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Leave us a five star review. We love those, We'll
read them.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
On the show. It's the fucking best, honestly, Victoria says,
best show ever five stars on Stitcher. Are you feeling
like a fun recap of a favorite show? How about
an in depth political discussion with two smart, authentic, and
hilarious partners. Still not interested? How about a pop culture

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updates and stories on sword attacks. This show is the best,
day in and day out, Ride and Care delivered the
best content of the podcast world. The insight and clear
love for each other will help restore your faith in
human Thank you, We appreciate it. Okay, so yeah, thank
you for all the five star reviews, such lovely words.
We love these reviews.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Honestly, if you haven't left one, leave us one.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's the best. Okay.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
It makes us feel great, all right, like, hey, week.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Is going on, coronavirus is outside way and hop on
your ass. Motherfuckers ain't wearing masks. The news is depressing.
Trump is still in power. Ain't nothing we could do
about it. He friend the homies out that helped him
be corrupting.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
And I got you, homie.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Every day it feels like trash, okay, and I just
want my five star reviews.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
I want my praises for my people to let us know, Hey,
we with y'all. We love y'all. Okay, we see y'all
hard work.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
We see the five hundred episodes you uploaded this week
back to the feed.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Come on, y'all. A lot of people do something's wrong.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
They was like, hey, all of a sudden, I'm getting
this old go listen because we know what a lot
of y'all ain't listening to all the episodes.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
And y'all and y'all gonna hear us. And we was
young in podcasts.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Little babies, okay, but yeah, do you think we sound
the same. It's hard work, you know, y'all. I know something, y'all,
be like, why am I getting an update at one
and two in the morning because your boy is up
at one two in the morning working putting this motherfucker
podcast back out.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
So you know, we.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Appreciate everybody that takes the time out to leave us
a five star review because we do work very hard
with all the stuff that we do. So thank you
so much to you guys who you know do the
extra mile and give us a five star review, and
like I said, uh, in addition of just the five
star reviews, like if you're if you're listening to this
and you're white, you owe us a five star review

(27:23):
for reparations.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Okay, I will take that five stars.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
It's the least you can do, honestly. Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
They say we want Breonna Taylor's killers brought to justice.
Yes that's true, but I will also accept five star
reviews in the meantime until y'all work on that. Okay, Yes,
you can rename the Disney ride to the Princess in
the fraud.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I will accept that.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
In addition to, you know, getting some justice for the
people that are out here from my arbery. You know,
I'm gonna take all of this paint Black Lives Matter
in front of the schools. Yes, that's cool. Also give
me five star reviews and then, you know, let's also
see what we can get your Floyd killer, you know, convicted.
So I want it all, Okay, don't listen to these

(28:04):
blacks that keep talking about they don't want it all.
I want it all. Give all the shit up.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
I want black characters to be voiced by black people.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
I want it all. I'm selfish okay, everything except that
goddamn General Lee coming out the museum.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
Other than that, that's the only thing you try to
line on.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
My mom was listening to the show and she called
me the other morning, and as soon as I asked
her father as I helld up, she was like you
a cool. She's like you a cool?

Speaker 1 (28:35):
You want that? You want that General Lee? Just there
was just some good old voice. There was never meaning
no harm. Why y'all trying to take down there?

Speaker 3 (28:45):
They was outlaws too.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Anyway, we got we got comments episode twenty one thirty
four grit Supremacist, and we got comments on this one.
It was feedback episode. MS Barn seventy two says, first
and foremost.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I am team no Sugar Grits. They do not belong
at all.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
But sadly I found the anti Christ in the Grit's debate. Sadly,
I have a friend. To preface the story, she is
German who puts Stevia in her grits.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Sugar Sugar. Just don't know where that goes. Yeah, I
don't know. That's I guess that's fake.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Sugar is nasty.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
I don't mind it. It's better than sugar, I guess.
But I mean I use it. I use Flinda or
whatever for my coffee. It doesn't bother me.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
And honestly, real sugar is a lot of work in uh,
in those drinks, like in a coffee take to dissolve.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah, like you have to fucking mix that ship forever,
man Jesus Christ. But anyway, look at me complaining. I'm
not my ancestors at all.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
You know what I'm I tasted it and it tastes terrible.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I'm over here, like my coffee is stern. Oh my god, but.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
You put your pinky in hell.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, I'm over there. I'm over there saying negro speare
just stirring up coffee in the morning.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
One glad more.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Then Wind's life is Oh wow, my.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
Wrist is starting to hurt.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
I fly in the comfort of your in the cof
of your a conditioned home.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Right terrible, Brooklyn shoe Ba says, listen as your neighbor
in New York, I'm tired of sugar, grit sugar and
grit slander. There's nothing but a cold But there's nothing
but better, I guess, on a cold morning, than a warm.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Bowl of grits with sugar and butter and rot.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Toast, nigga, if you don't eat some oatmeal and stop
trying to bastardize my heritage of Southern pride.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
I'm not falling for a.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Six and I do oatmeal. I like oameal.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah, well, then that's to put you some brown sugar
and some oatmeal and call it a rap and stop
trying to make this abomination unto God.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I put honey in my oatmeal whatever.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
I don't care what you put in it, as long
as you keep it away from the salty sweet, the
salty taste of these grits and not the sweet abomination
of satan that is these motherfuckers sugar grits.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
What's wrong with y'all?

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Who else?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Y'all y'all put coffee on your grits? What else y'all doing?
Putt kept up in your grits.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
I've seen it before, grits and syrup.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
I know y'all doing it. You sick? Oh God, you
discussed me. Your kink is definitely not my kink. A
couple of light, A couple of light and sweet coffee.
Damn it, that's delicious. It's like getting a hug from inside.
Uh yeah, okay, good lucks. I also noticed that you
said nothing butt on a cold morning, and then you

(31:43):
went later. I said that should have read nothing better.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
But what that.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Really was was your subconscious having a fraudian slip. What
you wanted to say was there's nothing butter on a
cold morning, because butter and salt going grits. I'm disgusted
by y'all, and I think y'all in the boot and
vote and vote for Trump. I don't trust your votes
no more. I know it's a small percentage of blacks
that's gonna vote for Kanye and Trump, and I think

(32:09):
the sugar grits contingent of blacks I won't be convinced otherwise.
What do you believe in human rights or human wrongs?

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Karen?

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Human rights?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Oh? Wow?

Speaker 1 (32:21):
You in eighty two and a half percent of the
audience believe in human.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Rights human wrongs?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
What y'all doing out him?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
I have a little surprised.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Seventeen and a half percent of our audience believes in
human wrongs?

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Oh you mean wrong? Like humans is sucking up?

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yes, human rights? What did Terry Crews say? He's a
human rights activist, not a human wrongs activist. So a
lot of people are human wrongs activists.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I don't know. I guess they know.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
They probably You know what, there's probably the amount of
sugar grits eaters in the audience seventeen and a half percent.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
It makes a half a cent. That makes sense, y'all would.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Be for human wrongs, because sugar grits is a wrong
gun to nature. We had episode twenty one thirty five
Frankie French Toast where our girl, Frankie French was on
the show for the first.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
Time, and people loved her. Okay, I feel like we
was all over the place.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
We talked a long time about a lot of different topics,
you know.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Just everywhere.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
But she was such a good person to have on
and you know, her daughter was kind of like guest featured.
You know, she was coming all all in the videos,
you know what I'm saying. But it all felt like
it felt like talking to an old friend, even though
that was our first time really getting to talk to her.
Anne says good episode. Enjoyed every minute of it. I

(33:40):
believe this is Bridgejazz Brie Jazzy seventy eight, who says,
I love this episode with Frankie French. There were so
many golden moments I enjoyed hearing about her experience with
her career trajectory, how she is.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Managing as things go.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Hey, why are use her a platform to speak out
against racism in the comedy industry. I also really appreciated
hearing her say that sometimes people actually don't survive traumatic experiences.
That made me re evaluate what survival actually is. Amazing
that in the midst of all the laughing throughout this podcast,
I came away with a pretty deep mental and spiritual examination. Well,
you know, that's just how we work on Magic Baby, Okay,

(34:14):
that's just what we do.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
I know it feels like it's just all happenstance, an accident,
but you know, we work in a little we massage
and a little bit of that deep shit every once
in a while, you know. And Frankie was such a
great person to talk to about it because she was
like so open about stuff. And you just never know
when you have a guest, whether they're new or not,
what people are willing to talk about, what they're not,

(34:38):
what you know, how much they've been able to self
reflect on stuff, Because sometimes you can sense something in
somebody and and they haven't even analyzed it. So they
can't talk about certain things. But she was just so
such an open book. And uh and I knew she
would be great because I listened to her on Three
Guys on and she's always so great on that. Yeah,
she's so funny and all that stuff, you know, So,

(35:01):
I mean, and then we didn't even get into all
the other stuff, like you know, there's just so she's
just such an interesting person. She has all these stories
about all these people she's met in the industry, and
they're you know, there's.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Always these funny things.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Randolph three Guys Alone calls from Frankie tails because she
just got a story for everything, and everybody you were.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Like the what how did this happen? How did you
ever get there?

Speaker 2 (35:25):
So I'm just you know, she's a dope person and
I'm glad to see she's blowing up, and I hope
she continues to Lakita says, this podcast has introduced me
to so many great new people, and Frankie was no exception.
The conversation was funny and enlightening. I really want to
thank Karen and Rod for allowing me and others to
come to the most fun funny EDI Fine almost daily
get together with fifty to one hundred awesome people together, laugh, sometimes,

(35:46):
get angry, sometimes even cry. With heavy social distance in
the boot, we're all in different places. Literally, Yeah, that
is yeah. We I mean we were already kind of
able to do the social distancing thing because of where
we're located and how we record our show. But another
I guess benefit of the coronavirus thing is that a

(36:07):
lot of people who really wouldn't be using this kind
of technology or they would be kind of afraid or
not want to go through the hassle of being on
our show, now they're like, one, I ain't got shit
to do too. I've been learning how to zoom, I've
been learning how to instagram live.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
And once people learn these kids, they're not gonna forget it.
So it's going to be So it's gonna be a
lot y'all gonna see a lot more people utilizing these
tools as time goes on.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
And they're realizing that it's not the hassle that they
thought it was, and so they come on and they're like, Wow,
I had such a great time.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
I was on this show for two hours.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I didn't even fucking realize it, you know, like something
I didn't know, I didn't even realize I lost track
of time when Frankine looked up and was like, oh shit,
we've been talking two hours. But uh, you know, Voywood Junior,
like it felt like he could have talked to us
even longer than we just didn't have the time to day.
And I think that's starting to like become a thing,
and it's really dope to experience staff because of y'all.

(37:01):
I don't feel an urge to go out and socialize
because I look forward to seeing Karen Rod at all
my new cyber friends every day. Y'all work so hard
and Rod's woman got two jobs, don't she laugh.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
My ass off?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
I really appreciate it, and y'all are helping to keep
your girls saying, because it ain't I ain't itching to
go out no time soon.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Don't forget us when y'all inevitably make it big. I won't, man.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
I did kind of think about that this week, of
like what happens eventually if we get to a point
where we can't be so interactive with the audience, or
we get to a point where it's not worth the
mental strain of being online and social media and stuff.
You know, but we ain't got to that point yet,
So I'm enjoyed while I.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Can, and we'll adapt into just accordingly. And for people
that's been around for a while, y'all can pull out
your old tales and be like, hey, I remember when
I used to with you know, could a shit have
a conversation with Rod and Karen right, So it was just, you.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Know, it was just such an interesting and you know thing.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
And then, like I said, to be able to get
these guests and all this stuff, it's just been so cool,
even he says, I don't think kind oh and then
also I am so happy and proud of our chat room,
of our community because I'm like, I know, the homies Teava,
Queen and Jay always say they like some community ass

(38:21):
view words you know, that's whatever. Like so they say that,
and I'm always thinking to myself, I'm not a community
ass person at all. Like I don't like building community,
I don't like being in the community. I don't like groups.
I don't like any of this shit like like it's
just as an actual like as an impath, the toll
is too much. It's too many people, too many agendas.

(38:44):
People hurt people, and then they want you know, you to.
If you're part of a community and you're like the
head of it, they really think like you're the principal,
and you can solve interpersonal conflicts between adults.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Which correct the amount of ego.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
It takes to think that your ass can fix like this,
she hit me, Like you can fix that. Yeah, okay,
my nigga. But also just the toll it takes on you, right,
constant interaction, constant expectations, constant measuring of your opinions, all
this shit. And so I kind of run from community.

(39:18):
I prefer one I don't want the responsibility of it,
but then two, I don't really want the It's a
full time job managing the shit and it's very stressful
if you actually give a fuck, you know. I think
a lot of people's perception of people that lead communities
that they don't give a fuck, They just want to
be at.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
The top of everything.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
But like, if you run it from a place of
I do give a fuck and I do want everyone
to be happy, you will drive yourself insane, especially with
a community that can be as big as I has
gotten right anyway, So it's cool though, to see that
community is created organically no matter what like if you
do something and you're and for the most part it's

(39:58):
a reflection of caring or not. So for the most part,
it's such a great community. You don't see people harassing folks,
and you don't see people ganging up and stuff that much.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Because we don't do things that kind of cater those
people to come our way. They'll find on.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
The avenues, right, and the kind of people that engage
in that are gonna do that, whether it's our community
or some other community. Like there's some people that there
their community is we go places and harass people. We
sign up in Facebook groups and look for people to
fight and shit, right, But that don't really make me
feel special, And I don't you know, a lot of
those people they don't even fuck with or listen to

(40:32):
the show or like us or whatever. There's like this
is just another avenue for them to sink attention into.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
They're not gonna support us there, you know, whatever.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
But there's so many other people that show up in
the chat and they're just so like they become part
of like the show to me. You know, they're like
it's like, oh, I look forward to seeing their opinions.
I know they're gonna write in. I know they're gonna
have certain jokes. I know they're gonna at least hear
us out. And you know, I think for the most part,
we foster the community that really believes in nuance, that

(41:03):
really believes in hearing people out, that believes in trying
not to come from a bad place. I'm not saying
everyone in the community. I'm not saying everyone gets it
every time. I don't get it every time. Sometimes it's motherfuckers,
I'm like, this nigga is crazy, you know whatever. But yeah,
it's just and this has happened over ten years, you know,
going back and look at some of those early shows,
you know, I'm looking at I remember Real and and

(41:25):
that whole like Saga, minda, Gabrielle, you know, Chill.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
What happened to Chill?

Speaker 2 (41:33):
You know, stuff like that, and you just looking like
community grows and changes over time. People come in, fall off,
people keep up with the pace.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
People don't.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
People feel like check in once in a while and
don't like it's just so it's just organic and so cool.
But mostly it's just been so rewarding and affirming to
see the kind of community we built. Even he says
I don't think Karen will actually run because Kanye. I'm sorry,
I don't think Kanye will actually run because he's nothing
but the agent of chaos at this point, and this

(42:02):
will probably just be a storyline for the next season,
keeping up with the Kardashians.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Maybe I don't listen. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
I mean, I don't he can't win. I mean, he
can't even get on the ballot in a lot of
these stays. He's not in a party, I don't think.
And if you read that Forbes interview, man, I I mean,
I've been saying it for a while. I just don't
think people want to hear it, man. And I'm not
going to back down on this because I really do
believe I'm right, and we might look back on this

(42:33):
later and that people will be like, I think ry
had had it spot on, or they'll look back on
this later and they go, fuck Rye, he's crazy or whatever.
But I think Kanye is having manic episodes. He's not
on his edge, and people, because he's so famous and talented,
people keep putting a mic in his face and taking

(42:54):
him seriously, and we are we are wrong to do that,
like they should not be providing him these platforms, you know,
and he's too rich and famous and powerful for anyone
to to to intercede a.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Sense right and and be like, no, this is not healthy.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Like people are gonna say it's about the Kardashians, but
to be truthful, it could be anyone.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
No one can make him do what he doesn't want
to do.

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Not when you got the level of money he has,
who's gonna tell him?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
And your mental health is your responsibility. I do get that,
but you have to understand that like mental your mental
health when you have something like bipolar disorder, is not
It's not such a simple line of black and white
of you know, like oh, I know, I'm I know,
I'm man it.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
Your mind fools yourself in the being like this isn't mania.
This is just how it's supposed to be. And what
I'm really fearful of is that the higher the mania is,
and the more that we're enabling it and pushing it
out to the world and and and validating it by
by treating it so seriously like he's running for president,
y'all better not vote for him. We let the whole

(44:00):
world needs to talk about him and talk to him
and talk at him and give him a.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Place to talk to us.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
I feel like the higher that high gets, at least
from everything I've read and experience and talk to people about,
the lower the low is. And I worried that one
of these because Kanye doesn't show us his lows. Like Kanye,
we see him when he's manic and he's out here
and he has an album coming out or something, and

(44:27):
he's like, I took I stopped taking my meds so
I can be more creative, and you know, and then
the article he's talking about micro chips being the planning
in him and running America like wa Kanda and all
the shit. That is not a person who is a
serious candidate for president. That is a person that is
having an episode. What the fuck is Forbes doing interviewing
that person?

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Like I call Forbes to a task like that? What
are you doing like that?

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Like the why? You know? I love the system, you know,
I'm glad, I'm happy for her.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
What is Judyanne Reed doing breaking down his room for
president on Twitter all day?

Speaker 6 (45:01):
No?

Speaker 2 (45:03):
You know this is not a stable person. We are
we are making it worse to to do this. I
firmly believe that.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
Let me tell you why, because there's nothing else to
do South Like a lot of times, the ship now
that actually trends, only trends because there's nothing.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Else to do.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
But even when there was stuff to do, Kanye, this
is a very we are focused on this man in
a way that is not fucking healthy.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
You know, it's not.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
And I see a dude that in my opinion, obviously
I don't know. I'm not there, but he said these
things and interviews before that he doesn't take his meds
when he's creating, and it's holding him back. And my
bipolar disorder is a superpower.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
When he's manic.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
And then, like I said, whenever he's not, we just
never see him. He's he's he's in that mansion somewhere
away from everybody, and he's, uh, you know, we see
like maybe he gained some way that we see like
he's not smiling, or we see like he you know,
he attends in some event or something like that. And

(46:03):
you know, and like I said, his family can't make
him do anything he doesn't want to do. But this
all feels so voyeuristically wrong.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
You know.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
It's like and there's a through line of him being
like I'm off my meds, and in him being like
attracted to Trump, attracted to the idea of running for president,
calling himself God, all this stuff, and these are things
that if this was not a famous, talented man, we
would be like, this is this is the behavings of

(46:33):
a person who is not in the right mind. This
is the behaviors of someone that's on the street, homeless
or something like that. But because he is who he is,
we treated with a certain level of seriousness. And I
don't feel that that is the right technique because we
makes it makes you really look through people that claim

(46:54):
to be empaths that may it makes you look through
people that claim to be a mental health advocated. It's
in allies to people that have mis because everything you
say about Kanye, your friend that has bipolar disorder, they
could have an episode like this.

Speaker 1 (47:09):
This is not beyond people. People think that.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
This ship is like some shit that only because Kanye
is so rich and famous, like he should be better
than this. But it's your brain. It's not a function
of how much money you have. It's literally your brain chemistry.
Even when your own meds, your brain chemistry can adjust
to the meds and you can have another episode. Read
Bosiyikpi's book. I'm telling the truth, but I'm lying for

(47:34):
a look into it, and she has I think it's
I think I forget the exact diagnosis, but it's like
levels to bipolar disorder and stuff. There's of course, you know,
manic depressive. There's also a schizophrenia, which is a whole
nother thing. Like there's levels to all this shit and we.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
That are in you know, brains that you know basically, Uh,
I forget like not neurodivergent or whatever the right the
woke term is.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
I don't know them all, but we take it for granted.
That is just like him giving a bad opinion. He
should just stop, Like if enough of us tell him
he's wrong, he'll he'll accept that he's wrong. And I
don't think that it's gonna work. It's just the attention
we're giving him. Is the is the drug itself or
it is the thing that convinces him and his brain

(48:24):
that way. I'm not saying this up to us to
fix him, because that's the other thing. People keep making
it sound like if you go, well, I'm just not
gonna treat it seriously.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Then you're saying, yeah, because he ain't doing nothing wrong.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
No, I'm just not gonna treat it seriously because it's
not serious for us. It's serious for him personally and
his family personally, but for me as who aren't voting
for president. For who you're voting for president? Who most
motherfuckers are voting for president. It's not a motherfucking factor.
Any of the people that do vote for him. Any
of the people that do vote for him are already

(48:56):
people that we can't depend on their vote now, So
why the fuck are you letting them become the center
stage just like the people that get we get to
the end of the fucking voting. Uh, we get to
November fourth, and now all these people go, well, you know,
I'm still undecided, and we put them on Why why.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Don't give a fuck about your opinion?

Speaker 2 (49:13):
So yeah, I'm not. That's how I feel about the
Kanye shit. And I think you I think people should
be a really you know, they're not gonna be careful.
But I just think people don't see the picture the
way I see the picture. And that's okay, but that's
why the fuck we're here to give our opinions. But
you know, I refuse to engage in this as if
I'm talking to a person who's not having an episode.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
I'm not gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
You know, this thing where we're just oh, no, no, no,
we can talk about this because everything's no, it's not okay,
it's not on the up and up. This person is
not in their right mind, and it's okay for us
to just go that person's having an episode, and I
hope they get help, and I'm gonna leave it at that, right.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Anyway, the poe was which one is the best waffles,
French toast and pan or panc.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Eggs Karen French toasts. Yes, all right, well I'm very
surprised by the results. Thirty eight percent went with waffles
and set, thirty seven percent went with fresh toast, twenty
four percent with pancakes. I think I would go with
French toast myself.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
Yeah, yeah, I like them all, you know, yeah, French
toast particularly, like I said.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
I miss restaurants.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
I missed when we used to go to toast and
we used to get like the stuffed French toast with
like cream cheese and strawberries, or the ones with they
had ones to call it the hub. I guess the
hub of hubble with peanut butter and bananas inside the
French toast outstanding.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Right, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
I I like the French toast sandwich like they call it.
I think it's called a Monte Cristo Crystal or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
You could get it at not Toast.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
But there was this other place who used to get
it at in the South Park area.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Oh it was the breakfast place.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
It was a breakfast place. Yes, it's over there by
where Brio is and that little area. I think they closed.
But oh my god, that fucking Manti Christo or whatever, Chris, that.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Fucking sandwich was it?

Speaker 3 (51:20):
That broken egg place?

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Not Broken Egg.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
No, it's over by the mall, but on the other
side of the mall, you know where I used to
work that side. Yes, I can't remember that the cut Yes,
so I don't remember the name of it.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
But yes, sandwich is so good.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
And you could add like ham or sausage to it,
an egg on that French toast sandwich. Oh god, anyway,
uh and then they put like this cheese anyway, and
you know, with.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
The French toast.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
I like a good thick old ass piece of Texas
French toast.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Yes, come on Texas toes. Everything big in Texas.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Ms Man says, Oh my god. During this quarantine, I
discovered Brios Bread and I used that ship for everything
gor mate grill, cheese, sandwiches, ham and cheese, sandies, and
especially French toast. Yes, yeah, makes some good French toast too.
Bree says, agreed, Brio's bomb on everything. Waffles take up
too much of the syrup and you have to keep
putting it on there. I'm not a fan. Yes, it's

(52:19):
a lot of work for waffles. Plus they you know,
incarcerat syrup, which I'm not with. Also, some people's French
toast is too eggy, but that's true too, that there's
nothing worse than a too eggy French toast or French.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Toast, Like what are you making over here?

Speaker 2 (52:38):
But uh, you know, waffle house ain't in business because
no one likes waffles.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Ain't that true? Ain't like a big thick belgile too.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Man. I feel bad for pancakes man. They came in last.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
It wasn't even close.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
The next episode was Illumina Patty label the Illuma Patty
LaBelle where we had comments. Trelick Hallil says, hearing you
guys talk about being and Aunt Patty reminded me of
Umar Johnson talk about the vegan nine alcoholic Sports bar.
I had to stop the pod and watch it again.

(53:12):
Here's a link to someone who posted it. Just watched
the first two and a half minutes, Umar Jesus just
three and a half hours. All right, let me see
what is this ship Amanda Smith with a one hundred
dollars check. I'm only going to read a few of these.
I just want to show you the type of love
that we have gotten over the past four years and

(53:33):
brothers and sisters.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
We can't stop now. We have to keep on going
because we have the school.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
But the school has to be renovated. So there's three
stages in this prom. Are you sure this is That's
what I'm saying? Like, is it the first three minutes
of the whole video? That was like halfway through the video?
What is this?

Speaker 1 (53:54):
I don't know this? This is this is too you.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Want a vegan non alcoholics?

Speaker 1 (54:03):
How many people forgot?

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Okay you said, am I accepting wife resumes?

Speaker 5 (54:12):
Oh here we go.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
I don't know this is confusing. I don't, I don't
really fun with lamar Ann says the word feat is
French for party. Your Trinidaddian roommates probably used it when
they talked about a party.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
They used to say party, but maybe they did say feet.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
I know they used to say party though. They used
to be like, we're gonna.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Lime at that. We're gonna we're gonna lime boy alignment
like chill. I guess like we're gonna go chill at
the party, even says to my secret shame, I still
watch Dukes and Hazards on the country music station. I
grew up wanting to be Daisy Duke because I wanted
to date one of the Duke boys, not realizing as
a kid that they were cousins. Oh man, that's the worst.

(54:54):
You look up later and be like, oh god.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Yeah, because you just see him as actors, you know,
you know, you just say, oh they for you don't
realize the relationships.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
You're like, what kind of porn? Was I into?

Speaker 4 (55:04):
No?

Speaker 2 (55:04):
One not watching this freaky shit on ex Hamster because
I was I was raised in this.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Okay, should Central Park Karen go to jail?

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (55:15):
Or no?

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Karen should one of your own go to jail?

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Central Park, Karen go to jail? I say, house arrests
minimum and fines.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Okay, all right, So that I would say that means
you're no, that's not jail. I mean house arrest sucks.
But we're all on it now at this point.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Ain't that the truth?

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Just kidding? I know house arrest is worse than this,
but yeah, eighty two percent say yes, she should go
to jail.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Okay, So Karen is in the eighteen percent.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Of people who think she should not go to jail.
MS barn seventy two says that bitch needed to go
to jail yesterday with her face and charges. Hopefully it
sets the president that our consequences were making false calls
and nine one one bookly as Jubei said, she should

(56:15):
go to jail for a weekend and then do community service.
Jane M. Jane Em says, well that Florida politician went
for Alison Roman. How did a rank against b and
Patti LaBelle end up catching astray? Patty is at home
decided which delicious dessert she's gonna sell to the masses
at Walmart next fall, and now she's a member of
the Illuminati.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Funny thing.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Miller said, there's a secret plot to get Obama back
in office, Like that's a negative. I don't understand the
whole Illuminati thing, but let's hear them out. Couldn't be
much worse than what we got going now. John says
no comment other than great show as usual. Just want
to express empathy for Karen, for Karen's everywhere because my people,
the Coopers, were dragged all week. We found out Amy

(56:56):
Cooper was against John's last name is Cooper. We found
out Amy Cooper was charged for her racism, but might
catch a break because Christian Cooper is a prison abolitionist,
which should be expected from a Christian right, shouldn't Christians
turn the other cheek? Bomoni reminded us of the Eagles
drama with Riley Cooper in his podcast and Sarah Cooper's

(57:19):
fans got JL at his peak level of petty. Anybody
remember Michael Cooper from the band confunction. That's a good point.
There's a lot of Cooper drama in life right now.
So yeah, I didn't even think about that. And then
Bree says, whatever, the charge for hiring a hitman is

(57:39):
what she should go to jail for because pretty much
that's what she was trying to call the police on
that black man.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
At the end of the day, it ain't happened to me.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
So I respect whatever decision the man makes regard and
participation in investigation. Yeah, I think, I like, I guess
it's because I don't know how much time or whatever.
I don't expect her to go to jail, expect her
to really do.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Any real time. But I do think there should be
a penalty.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Agree for this.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
And if it's jail, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
It's not like like I don't feel like Christian Cooper
where I'm like, I don't you know, her life has
been enough. I just don't care.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
If they say jail, and that's funny. I'm fine with
that too.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
But a fine, a fee, something that she can't go
Scott free, No, no, no, such think it's Goott free. No.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Yeah, just mostly And I think because I've always viewed
it as an individual thing that happened to this man,
which is just probably because of the way I view.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
A lot of shit.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
I look at a lot of shit as like these
videos that go viral. I look at a lot of
these videos and shit that happened to that person, not
necessarily all black people, although I understand the themes and
how it gets to that point. So I think maybe
that's part of the reason that I'm not so like.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
We gotta get them. Like it's like, this woman.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Is fucked up on an individual level to this dude,
and if he wants to participate in that or not,
I don't really care. Now.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
The other thing, too, is Christian Cooper.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
I think freedom is being able to choose how you respond.
I think a lack of freedom is us pressuring him
to respond in a certain way.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
And so because a lot of people upset upset to well,
you want the one to determine.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
That, right. So if his mind is I just want
to be left alone. I don't want to cooperate talk
to the police. I don't want to get in the
back you're tied it, he might not wanting to drag on. Also,
this woman is a dangerous fucking stalker, which everyone has
skipped over in these fucking stories about her, which I
don't understand how y'all skipping over that. That's a major
fucking problem for him, being like, I don't want to

(59:48):
become your new obsession. Leave me out of this. I
don't I'm not bothering you. All I wanted to do
was watch some fucking birds, and I don't care. I
know other people highlighted an article where he said he
would he thinks that should be more police in Central Park.
So then people are like, he ain't a prison abolitions.
I don't know this nigga. I know he might not
want to be known as the Central Park bird watching nigga.

(01:00:10):
And if that's his prerogative, that's fine, whether or not
that means the state can push something and pursue something
to get hurt.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
But if they do, they might be like, well, we
don't care, We're gonna press Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
The real question is this, Well, people passing these acts
of we're gonna like prosecute white people who call the
police on black people for no reason. I think there's
a couple of things people need to consider with this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
One.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
If we are truly beholden to the system that what
they want to use to penalize black people, to penalize them,
if that's something that we really want on a on
a on a basis that of like, let's put you
in a punitive system, which still.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Does justify that system.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
So I can understand people that are like, I don't
even want that. Okay. The second thing is what happens
when this isn't so clear, So when there's not the
cell phone video and it's my word against yours, when
maybe I have done something or said something to you
that would make you want to call the police on me.

(01:01:18):
But I can kind of manipulate it into nas you know,
this is different what happens in domestic situations what like,
you know, there's other considerations than this. I think we
all this is what law does. We try to solve
for the thing that already happened, but then we forget
the variables of what could happen, and then some day

(01:01:40):
years from now, we're gonna be looking back like, man, well,
in that case, this man was beating his white wife
and she called the police, and you know he was
able to part to use the Karen law. They really
do have a lot of calls or some shit. And
I'm not saying that's what will happen, but I think
our rush to react and the penalize this woman does.
I hope, I hope people get it right. I just

(01:02:01):
hope that it's not something that it's gonna be some
slippery slope ass shit, you know, because it's like the
people that I'll give you a perfect example is people
that want to pass legislation where you can sue a
person that accuses you of right falsely.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Now, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Saying I obviously being accused of rape by someone that
you did not rape is a horrible fucking thing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
I'm not even saying it happens a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
But if it did happen to someone, I would understand you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Feeling like vengeful, wanting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
That motherfucker to pay all that shit. I don't think
there's anything wrong with those feelings. But if we legislate
those feelings, what about the cases where I did sexual
assault someone but they can't prove it right we go
to court because which rarely happens.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
You rarely go to court.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
But let's say you go to court, I don't get
convicted because convictions rarely happen in sexual assault cases like that.
Can I turn around and sue you because I have
passed the standard of you sued me and lost in court?

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Now I want you to pay my lawyer fees.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Want you to go to jail for charging for accusing
me of something that you couldn't prove that I did. Right,
So there's like there's just levels to this stuff that
I think about, you know, and you know, maybe we're
so far from that that you know, I'm just worried
about it's becoming black supremacist. Okay, that's what I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Trying to say. No, I mean there's levels to it
that I think about.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
You know, So, uh that that's all all right. The
last episode of the week, we talked to Jail Covan.
It's called Mortal Care. Now, it wasn't our last time
recording an episode for the week. It was our last
time recording one, uh for this week.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Word a show.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
Yeah, the people, the people in the live chat got
an extra free uh special show that nobody else got
to see lives right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
So I'll explain that in a second.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
So anyway, no comments because people are scared of Jail
Covan and us, you know, they don't want to smoke.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
But we did have a pole painting black Lives Matter
on streets.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Thanks or no thanks, Karen, Thanks, Seventy two percent say thanks,
so most of the people.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Say yeah, well appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Twenty eight percent say no thanks. Because black lives matter
don't matter to them. They want all lives or white lives.
Mom's drag with swash, says Frank red Hot nigga. Frank
red Hot's put that shit on everything since these old
pays didn't know they was chilled killing niggas like hot hotcakes.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
Yeah, put black lives matter on everything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
That's what I really would like, Just everything, elevators, parking spaces, just.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
No way you can go.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
You don't see it. Alicia says you should create an
app that's a game called Mortal Karen. Have various white
ladies making empty threats or even fighting. That would be hilarious. Yeah, well,
if I had the time and the money, maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
Someone gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I'm sure. Brooklyn Shoe Base says, as black people don't
we get walked on a wow, sis you are? You
are too woke for my blood? Okay, I can't keep
up with damn that that's so deep. I don't So
don't put black lives matter on the streets.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Okay, cool, got it. Lakida Chisholm says perther Pole. My
thanks was more of a thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
I guess, well, too bad, Lakita, because it only says thanks,
so you go into thanks pile.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
There is no nuance on the PHO.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Okay, but I feel y'all, I understand, all right, we
didn't get any voicemails. We did get some emails this week,
so we'll get into that. But we what we did
this week was I'm uploading old episodes of the show,
trying to put them all on the feet in one place.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
It's a lot of work. I have to go in
individually do each one, and I'm up to like five
hundred and something of them, which, you know, which is
pretty good in a few days.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
I've just been doing it constantly in the background.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
But one of the things that's interesting is, like, you know,
in addition to going through old episode titles and guests
and being like, remember, we knew this motherfucker, Oh this
nigga was crazy, you know, shit like that, we also
you know that like different topics, we've evolved on this
stuff and on a deeper philosophical level. It makes me

(01:06:25):
feel like nervous and proud because I'm like, oh, this
is where we came from. These are the opinions we
used to have, These are the jokes we used to make,
These are the topics we used to broach, you know,
and this is a learning thing that we've done for
ten years. This is something that people don't have an
archive of ten years of their opinions just sitting out there,

(01:06:45):
you know. And honestly, I think this is what the
world needs is more of this, because it's not like
we ever took them off to hide anything. We just
took them off because literally, it costs so much money
to host this much audio.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Back in the day, they didn't have unlimited Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
So you know, basically I had to upgrade our account,
which costs a lot of money, and then start putting
the stuff back out there. But I want people to
be able.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
To go back and listen to those episodes because I
think what so much of the world is now is
hiding every part of you that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Doesn't look glossy.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
It's the right angle, the right filter, the right crop
on all your Instagram pictures. You know, it's the deleting,
you know, all your tweets, it's you know, it's all
of that shit. And we penalize people for being less
than perfect. We go, well, you weren't perfect in two
thousand and eight, so you must be terrible now. And
it's you know, it's you said this thing and in

(01:07:44):
twenty ten and look at you now you say the opposite.
Well you're gonna address you know. So I feel like
it's very unhealthy. But also you can't be afraid of that,
you know what I mean. You can't be afraid really,
to be fair, you can't really be ashamed of it,
because it's human. You should be getting better, you should

(01:08:05):
be growing. So that's a big thing. I want to
put all that stuff back out there. But there's one
episode that we lost the audio for, so episode twenty four.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
I think it's called yeah we can see it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
We Speak English Boy or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
There is no fucking audio for it. We had a
blank audio foul. I don't know how the audio went blank.
I don't know it was not uploaded blank obviously because
people had listened to that episode. I've never met anyone
that has an MP three four. I've never met anyone
that has it saved on a device. We've asked the
audience before, we're never getting this episode back. It is

(01:08:43):
a lost episode twenty four, and for people that are
listening to show for the first time, to go all
the way back to episode one, they're gonna be listening.
They're gonna get the episode twenty four and it's blank.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Yeah, they're gonna be like, the fuck is happening.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
We can see the description from the episode and the
topics we talked about, but this episode is according to
twenty ten, y'all twenty ten. So well we did Thursday. Hey,
I came up with this idea. I did a mini
meditation one day. I'm not joking, that's what happened. I
did a mini meditation one day because it was frustrating

(01:09:17):
me looking at that fucking episode. I've been looking at
it for ten years, like what the fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
It's like, it's like a placeholder on the site, because
if you go through the site, it was like, yeah,
this episode is blank.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
But we got to hear for a placeholder.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
So what we did instead we re recorded the audio.
So we re recorded the episode of our Wednesday episode.
We just didn't crowdcashing can see it, and we just
didn't really allude to the fact that yeah, and so
we just started the episode and we like played a

(01:09:48):
song to open the show the way we used to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
We had music in the background the way we used to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
We you know, we just talked about the topics and stuff,
but you know, inside jokes obviously for us, being like
we know this is ten years later, and you know
we're making you know, because if someone listens to it
in order, they're gonna be like episode twenty four.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Damn how they know that?

Speaker 4 (01:10:08):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
How did they predict that someone like Trump could come
to tower?

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
You know? How did they could predict that the coronavirus
would one day?

Speaker 6 (01:10:15):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
You know, so we thought it would be.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Cute, and I think the audience enjoyed it in the chat,
so it was it was fun for those folks. But
you know, but we didn't tell them, so they just
thought we were like out of our minds for the
first Like, however, long like what the fuck is this?

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
What are they doing?

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
Why didn't talk about shit that already happened? Yeah, with
some of the articles we couldn't find because it was
so long ago.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
Yeah, like it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
So and no, I don't see any voicemails on the
on the on the on the sky.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
I didn't I didn't see any, So sorry it didn't
go through.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
But all right, emails, Alan writes in just curious even
and y'all love to showing the content y'all can constantly
put out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
I'm curious whether or.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Not you've had a chance to play The Last of
Us Too yet. If so, what are your thoughts as
well as the information before it is released and after?

Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
Thanks y'all, bless up. PS. We need some more of
those bars from Karen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Okay, So I've been playing a little bit of the
Last of Us Too, and a couple hours into it,
I did not pay attention or read a single leak
of what happened or the plot points or the controversy
over it. So I just don't want to be spoiled.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
But I have been playing the game and it's fucking amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
It's intense. It picks up where the second one where
the first one left off.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
It looks great.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
We talked about a lot on the nerd off yesterday
that we do, which is a premium show, a spinoff show,
which you can get by going to the black tips
dot com slash Premium and becoming a premium listener and
you can listen to it. Jamie Lynn says, good morning, riding, Karen.
I've been listening for years and I recently went premium.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Okay, we.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Love this energy. Shout out to that Corona sale. We try,
but I don't think I've ever sent it any feedback.
I've had plenty to say, but from the mind to
the pen is a journey my lazy black ass hasn't
been able to make until now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
I listened to episode twenty one thirty five.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
And your guest Frankie stated that she didn't share about
her miscarriage in the pandemic because of all the movement
around Black Lives Matter, and she didn't want to be
a distraction to the bigger issue. My heart broke two.
Often black women have to put their pay in the
backseat to make room or leave space for another issue
or topic of the time. I just wanted to leave
a quick message and say I'll see you and I'm

(01:12:44):
so sorry for your lost Jamie p. Yeah, yeah, that
was like heartbreaking to heir talk about that and her
reasoning for not like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
Wanting to talk about it, And I mean, you know,
you gotta honor somebody's reasons. What are you gonna know?

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Oh, you you know this isn't good will, honey. We're
gonna shake our shoulders and make her talk about it.
But you know, it does feel like you know, like
I was thinking about this the other day when Insecure
had episodes dropping, you know, the the writers and all
this stuff, they be on Twitter promoting it, and then
when the George Floyd stuff happened, they would have to

(01:13:21):
I mean, this is their work, this is something they know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
These things are dope and they culminate and they it's
so they have to be like, God, listen.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
I mean we're not pressuring nobody. I mean such a dvall.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
And I'm like I need this escape.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
But for them, it's just you know, it's like, as
black people, we just have to consider so much shitting
because you know, it is such a weird, petty thing
and there are so much there's so much jealousy and
people people just assuming the worst of folks that you
do feel a pressure to be like.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Doing something you don't care they don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
Yeah you do feel like, yeah, you feel a pressure
like should I shrink myself down? Can I say that?
You know I lost my job when other people lost
their lives. And it's not just black people, by the way,
Like there's white people that you know are not these
you know, just fucked up evil white people that correct
something bad happens to them and people like shit on them, Like, uh,

(01:14:18):
when a world where George Floyd got killed, you worried
about losing your job and not paying your rent.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
It's like we're all human.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Yes, that's a real problem for me, it is, you know,
so but uh yeah, when people play that like oppression
Olympic shit, it does make you, you know, worry about that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
That being said, I don't think she should be worried
about it.

Speaker 4 (01:14:38):
I'm sad that she was, but I do understand that feeling,
you know, because so much is going on. But the
fact if you say this, people that act like you're
quote unquote taken away from the conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
Can we talking about both?

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Yeah? So I don't know, but yeah, it was. It
was a sad moment too, And you know, and also
privately that's such a thing too, where like privately you
may want to deal with that internally with you and
your family and all this other stuff, and maybe you're
not ready to have a public discussion of your you know,
of your tragedy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
And also I've never been pregnant, never had any kids,
anything like that. But also it's something where people almost
make women in general feel ashamed about a miscarriage, even
though it's something natural and it happens to a lot
of women. It happens to Black women at a higher
rate than any other group of women, but it does happen,
and particularly Black women particularly feel like they're alone and

(01:15:34):
they get to talking to so many family members and
relatives and they'll come back and be like, yeah, I
had one too, I had one too, And you realize
it's something that goes along in the family and nobody
fucking talked about it. So while you, quote unquote are
going through the suffering, you're thinking you're the only one.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
That has experienced this, and somebody talks about it, and
honestly and like one they should, like I'm not. I
don't think people would come at her for that like that,
but in the pettiness and the fucked upness of people
right now, and that might even explain why she was

(01:16:08):
so motivated at the time to be like, let's shake
shit up, because you know, you're dealing with something in
your life and this cause is a bit of an
escape too, Like it's a way to deal with your
pain in a different direction, to say, let me focus
on something because I'm having this internal thing, but let
me focus on the fact that this is such a

(01:16:28):
racist landscape and comedy so like it might take.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
Years to work through some shit like that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
You might never work through that, so, I you know,
it's a lot to talk about on the fly, But yeah,
I just appreciate her openness for even being willing to
discuss that, you know, And I think it's a credit
to the show and to the guests we have on
that people feel like they can even talk about that
stuff here because you just never know.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
And I'm glad she shared and was very open about
it and willing to talk about it because there's a
lot of shame or wrapped around that, and this is
something that some women struggle forever until the day they die,
because you know, the loss of a child is actually
something that you never ever get over, and that's something
that people have to understand too.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Yep. So you know, glad, and I appreciate you know,
the note that you dropped, and you know, I know
people have been talking to her on social media and
stuff as well, so you know, y'all are such a
great group of fans and people like that. Hey, Rach, Rach,
I've been listening to you and Korn since twenty thirteen.

(01:17:29):
I don't get to always comment this is Wallace and
emails called random quotes. I don't get to always comment
on the shows that I like. I have a stack
of old comments from old shows that I wanted to
see you, but in the interest of time, I'll include
just three. Episode eighteen seventy seven, you you stated Trump
supersized white nationalism on a paper plate with a sport,

(01:17:49):
and white folks ate it up. Episode eighteen eighty four,
you stated, our show is black supported by black listeners.
Who's super so we super served black shit. You should
have You should make that the official model of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
You know what, you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Don't play because it used to be nothing wrong If
it's funny, but I don't know. Black supporter by black listeners?
Who sup we super served black shit? It kind of
ring to it. In episode eighteen seventy nine, you said
that only one percent of your followers listen to your podcast.
How I mean that does not listen? Twitter goes to

(01:18:28):
people's head. That shit don't really affect me much because
it does not translate to nothing offline. It doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:18:35):
It don't mean shit, dog, I got.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
Mean they're gonna financially support you. It don't mean they're
gonna show up. It don't mean any of that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Like thirty some thousand people follow me on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
It's not And I mean, and the people who download
our podcasts don't all follow me on Twitter or have Twitter.

Speaker 4 (01:18:52):
Correct a lot of the platforms that don't have most
don't have probably don't have social media at all.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
Yeah, so even the downloads and shit don't really mean
that they listen into the show even you know, it
don't mean nothing, man like, let this shit go to
your head if you want to, man, Okay, Like the
only motherfuckers I know that that truly, for a fact
fuck with us are the people that are premium for
for for sure, the people that donate and then the

(01:19:17):
people you see in the chat room and you know
that live tweet the show stuff like those are the
only people I can really be like, oh, they really
do fuck with us actively? Yes, you know, because honestly,
and it's not And that's not shade to people that
dip in and out or people that don't really fuck
with us. Everything not for everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Nope, And we and the wild part is we we
we are the type of people.

Speaker 4 (01:19:39):
We encourage you to go find a home because we
tell people, if you come here and we ain't for you,
there's plenty of other podcasts you could listen to that
not actually fit.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
Whatever your knees and taste are. It doesn't always have
to be us.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
I don't be on to deal with that shit anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
No, So I'd rather you go find your home somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
I wish you had let Jamel Hill comment on the
news of the day. That would have been what news
of the day. I don't even know. Oh, oh, you
mean we didn't do our segments. Well, it's interesting because
I feel like I matriculated the news up in that
bitch though.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Did you not notice how smooth I was in that show?

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
You didn't peak the light hand up finesse when I
was just like Bubba Wallace, bam. You know what I'm saying, NBA,
NBA trying to resume slid out, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
Like I was sliding it up in there. I just
wasn't making segments.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
It was Yeah, it was like more of a conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Yeah, but I did get it. There were articles I
checked off. This is what I'm saying in the background,
y'all couldn't see it. But on my app that tracks
all the articles I wanted to talk about for today,
I was just clicking them off. But I just was
so smooth with the transition. Y'all didn't even know what
it was. Y'all didn't even feel it. It was just like, bam,
that's what That's what a professional does up in here. Okay,
I'm a maestro on this motherfucking microphone. So you couldn't

(01:20:49):
even tell I love. That's the best compliment you put
in here. You didn't even know. That's all I got
from our peace signed Blue Wave Rider.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
PS.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
If you don't stop bad mouth and Arveysenburger king, but
all three of their fans gonna show up in my house.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Oh, Big Harvey is gonna get me. Shout out to Eve.
She knows what's up. She does put sugar integrits.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Probably, Chrishelle says, y'all appeared on my Google Opinion Rewards
survey app. Interesting. Oh she attached screen shots. Let me
see if I can show y'all how much time we got. Okay,
we got ten minutes. Let me see if I can
showy all these these pictures, y'all can see them yourselves,
but she attached screen shots and songs. Ask how interested

(01:21:32):
would you be a listening to this podcast the Blackout
Tips and Littlema Patty LaBelle uh twenty one thirty six
and you know, uh five five stars? How useful do
you find the text highlighted in blue for the podcast recommendation?
You may like comedy movies four stars? Okay, I'll see
you say so that was not a good recommendation. That's
not a reflection to us, that's Google.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
How much more?

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
How much more or less likely are you listening to
podcasts due to the blue texts about the same what?
To what extent does the blue text make you feel?
Recommendation feel personalized to you? Slightly personalized?

Speaker 1 (01:22:06):
And what way does the blue text impact your interests?
And all this?

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
So it's just dope. We apparently we big on Google. Okay,
they're out here trying to rep for the show.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
I didn't know that or else.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
They just in your phone and they know all your business.
But hey, hey, let's not let's not miss worse. Shaquita says, Hey,
I'm finding neither are you? Hey, Rod and Karen, I
just wanted to thank you for reading the excerpt from
I'm Finding Neither Are You, then going into the discussion
about parental relationships with their children.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
I feel like it came.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
At the right time for me because my father and
I have no relationship, and recently he reached out to me.
He said a long text, apologized for not being in
my life and how he could have could have, but
he never made the time. This is after I sent
him a Father's Day gift. Sometimes I feel, since I'm
an adult, there's nothing to.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Gain from our relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Now. He's married with kids, and I keep in touch
with my half sisters because they haven't done anything wrong.
I'm in my thirties and I'm married Club no Is
yay Hey, and my husband is a little older than me.
His parents have been married for fifty years and think
it's good for me to see a healthy relationship and
be a part of a healthy relationship.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
I even reached out to.

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
My dad when I got married, and he said he
couldn't make it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:12):
He lives twenty minutes from me.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Shit, so he didn't even meet my husband until eleven
years later at my grandfather's funeral. Man, I know you
black because man, the funeral's dog Listen. Yeah, I love
my dad, but like, I'm like twenty five percent prepared
for us to be at the funeral and be like,
who the fuck is the thiggers? Like that seemed like, yes,

(01:23:34):
every black funeral just have it, Like what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Yes, where did you come from? How do I have
an uncle that I'm older than? This don't make no sense?

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Right Sonday, he played the game.

Speaker 3 (01:23:46):
Yeah you're sitting there gon, Why is she grabbing the
mical phroone singing right?

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Come on, man, you know I'm not. I don't think
my dad's like that. But my point is, you never know.
You really got to wait till that casket his closed.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
Are a family?

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
What right you show? Yeah, you don't even know you
the other family. You're like, damn who these hundred people
on the other side. Oh, we the family.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
We used to love him. He would come by and
hang out all times of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
You know your daddy was in the military.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Now, right, Oh, Troy Maxims, shit, you just don't know
what is happening with this shit. So but nah, that's
that's wild. Sorry, I'm on a huge rant. Just wanted
to thank you to for letting me get all of
that out. Please don't read it or what don't read it?
Oh my god, I gotta put that at the beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
What Yeah, you should have put that at the beginning. Baby.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
You always pronounce my name wrong and I always cringe.
I appreciate you guys so much. Oh god, Oh okay,
new roal. If you don't want us to read something,
put it at the beginning of the of the email.
I'm on, come on, that's not fair to me. And
I did say your name wrong. Probably, Oh, this is
just this away from like feeling terror. Now everybody feels terrible. Okay,

(01:25:02):
all right now I feel horrible.

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
Put it in big bone text at the beginning. Put
it in the subject line.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
If you got to literally the worst way to end
the show. Jesus, we got one more email.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Russell Wright saying hi Rod and Karen Queen Karen hearing
you sing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
I can be anything.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
I have to Reading The Rainbow Light brings light into
my heart every single time. I absolutely love it. Rob.
I've been listening to the show for at least eight years,
and I have to give you credit for something.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
As a young black male.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
Your influence on my conscious to respect how our LGBTQ
friends and family before their pronouns is undeniable. I'm quick
to correct home's family and with my significant other when
they miss gender people.

Speaker 1 (01:25:42):
It's just the right, it's just the right slash loving
thing to do.

Speaker 2 (01:25:45):
So thanks for that, russ PS. That couples chilenge pick
you took this week was beautiful. Oh that picture was
actually for Save the Arts and I posted on social
media because that was like this thing going around where
you want to have a hashtag save the arts and
to talk about people in comedy that make art that
you know, to make sure that people see how important

(01:26:05):
it is to fun people during times like this, when
you know it is revenue is down and some of
these clubs.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
Coming stand up comedy, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:14):
And the thing is, when we quote unquote go back
to normal, U's a lot of shit.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
This literally will not existing anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
A lot of our favorite places that we used to
go to a lot I'm not going to survive.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
Yeah. And then the last thing as far as miss
gendering people and stuff, man, listen, uh one, that shit
is a constant thing because it's evolving and we're constantly
being hipped to new things.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
And learning new things, and it's hard to keep up.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
I won't lie, and it's hard to reframe your brain
to do all that shit. But my thing is I
don't want to disrespect people if I can avoid it. Agree,
My goal is never to make people feel bad with
things coming out of my mouth for just the way
they exist in the world. That's not you know, that's
not something I want to do, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
I don't really.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
Really label myself anything really, you know what I'm saying,
Like a lie, feminists is whatever. Although I'm not afraid
of those labels, I just don't. I just don't apply
because you know, to me, it's not really up to
you to decide or whatever. But I do want to
be you know. I do strive to be a person
who is trying to make an attempt.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
To have empathy and care for people and.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
To express that and to make sure it's not a
bad thing, to make sure that people don't see it
as weakness or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
And I think a big part of that is this
resistance and people want to be cool. And I know us.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
As straight people, especially as a straight black man, there's
an element of cool and ignorance that is combined, it's
like I'm ignorant to this shit, therefore I'm cool. So
even though I know better and I notice the right
thing to do, I'm gonna make a big production out
of doing the wrong thing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
I'm gonna make a big.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Production out of, like, you know, adjusting to someone's pronouns shit.
And I feel like that, like we don't have to
do that if it's really your struggle and you're struggling,
I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
But if you know this thing where like every time
someone trans name come.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Up, we do the like, well, I guess they don't, well,
you know this like where it's like I'm half respecting it.
I didn't want to make the eye show that, And honestly,
I haven't always been on point. I got introduced to
the idea of transnis on this show. Like one of
the episodes I uploaded, I think we talked about Chelsea

(01:28:33):
Manning if I'm not mistaken, and I think Chelsea Manning's.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Dead name I think was Erward Snowden.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Maybe I'm getting confused, but Chelsea Manning was a person
that was arrested for leaking information from the government under
the Bamba administration, and within that I believe she also
said I'm trans, And I remember being like, what the fuck,
Like you just got arrest and now you're a woman,

(01:29:02):
Like why are you doing this? Like are you like,
what's the what are you planning the benefit from this?
You think you'll get sympathy? Blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
You know, I remember being so fucking confused about.

Speaker 2 (01:29:11):
It and and distrustful and stuff. And I want to
say it was two episodes or either that feedback episode
I believe our girl Olivia wrote in and was talking
about like transness and hormone therapy and all this stuff,
and I was like, yeah, why do I give a fuck?
I don't, like, I don't care to stop this person

(01:29:32):
from getting the treatment that they need if this is
this is some legitimate thing that I just don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
And I wanted to be sure with that. Hold on
a second, but all right, we're back.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
But yeah, So the thing is, I like, I I
don't want to be embarrassed by that process, because I
think everyone, if they're trying to be better, should go
through a process of learning, you know, and it's not
you're coming from it in because all times when you
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Something is ignorant.

Speaker 2 (01:30:02):
So you're coming from an ignorant place and you're trying
to get to a place where you know better. And
when you know better, you try to do better, and
you try to strive to make that a standard. Mostly
I try. I think intent does matter. People try to
tell your intent doesn't matter. I think that's bullshit. Don't
trust those people. Those people are fucked up. Yes, your
intent does matter. It might not be the most important

(01:30:22):
thing in the equation, but it matters. And I know,
as a black person, a marginalized person, it matters to
me the intent of a person when they fuck up,
in the intent of a person when they're doing well,
you know, because if they fuck if you fuck up
and it's from a good place, I can forgive that,
I can adjust to that. I can even understand that
because everyone has done that. If you fuck up and

(01:30:43):
it's from a bad place, I can understand that as well.
Everyone's also done that. But it's a different level of judgment, right, so,
you know, whether it be pronouns people's I mean, when
the show started a long time ago, my thing was,
I did not care what was happening in your bedroom,
you know, And I'm a person that came from a

(01:31:04):
Christian background in a southern state where I've you know,
my whole life, people have been obsessed with gay people
and queer people in there.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
You know, like what's going on with them?

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
Like, you know, didn't care?

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
Yeah, And I like, when I was in church, it
wasn't just that I didn't care, but at the time
I articulated it in I didn't care, as in, I
don't care what your sexual orientation is. It's not my
fucking business, right, I don't care what you're doing in
your bedroom. Also not my business. I'm not having sex
with you. I do not understand why I should be
obsessed about this. Come on, and you can kind of

(01:31:37):
hear it in the way I talk about celebrities and
why I don't really give a fuck about Jada Pinkett
and Will Smith, Like, literally, not my fucking business.

Speaker 1 (01:31:45):
Y'all made it everyone's business. I don't have to opt
into that, right.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
But my point being I evolved on that to no,
I do care because you're being oppressed. You're being forced
to hide your sexuality. You're being criminalized for your sexuality,
you're being criminalized for your the way you have sex,
You're not being allowed to be married so any righteous person,
any good person, is not looking at the more equivalency

(01:32:11):
and going, eh, I don't really care. That's not that's
you're not necessarily actively being a bad person, but you
ain't necessarily helping agree, you.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
It's like I'm looking at you try to move a
couch upstairs to your apartment, and I'm just like, I'm
not gonna stand in your way. Yeah, I'm not gonna
block the door, right, And I would rather take up
my end of the couch and be like, let me
help you get your couch to your house, you know
what I'm saying, and so and then be like, y'all
gonna have gay sex on this couch, you know what
I'm saying. Not just kidding, but nah, I want to
help you get get up there. So uh yeah, that's

(01:32:42):
the kind of shit that I think. I try not
to think of what we do and say too much
of being examples and trying to influence people. But by
the nature of what we do and say, we are examples.
We do influence people. That's the truth of the matter.
We do have a platform. You I don't want to
navigate it as if that's the only thing I think about,
because authenticity, to.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
Me is the real gift.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
It's the real thing that we have on the show
that you're not gonna find just everywhere. It's a lot
of people that are so commercialized and packaged and you know, focused,
group testing and shit, and it's so sanitized that you're like,
that's not even a real person, agreed. You know, So
when you hear us make jokes on here that kind
of lighten the mood, that kind of that's an intentional choice.

(01:33:26):
When you hear us, you know, make points about like, well,
you know, even though this might be the woke wave
right now, but I can see some downfalls of this.
That matters too, because at least, you know, we being
real as opposed to being performative on some level of
like fakeness for you to feel good and sanitized by.

(01:33:46):
But no person can live up to those ideas. And
so hopefully people see two human beings talking all the time,
and when we fall short, they see human beings that
hopefully can step back up.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
And when we you know, push beyond the boundaries.

Speaker 2 (01:34:02):
They're at, they see people that are like ideals that
are attainable, achievable, reason and thoughtful. You know, and you know,
it really does warm more heart with people right in
and especially since had black men, to be honest, that
are like this did change my point of view on this.
This did make me think about something differently because I
hope to make people, you know, I hope I do that.

(01:34:23):
I do that shit in my life. The things you
say about correcting pronouns, you know, people that use like
homophobic slurs and stuff. You know, I have had some
uncomfortable conversations at a basketball court or question some people.
I'm not, you know, furious styles, but I have, you know,
pulled out a couple like, hey man.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
What's wrong with being gay? Why you got to say
it that way?

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
You know? And maybe that makes me not the coolest
got to have around in some rooms. Maybe I'm not
gonna be the most popular motherfucker. But I can live
with myself, you know what I mean. I don't do
it every day. It's not an after school special up
in this piece. But you know, I picked and choose
my people. Well, some people you can reach to.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
Some you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
But if anyone, if one person here's our show and
takes that attitude forward, then we're doing a great job.
And especially if I said if, especially since that black
man not to make it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
It's all about them.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
But like the way I view it, we are so
far behind and our culture is allowing us to be behind,
and racism is allowing us to be behind. They don't
expect shit out of us. That's why it's okay for
you know, Snoop Dog to call Gail King a bitch
and he just can be on TV again like nothing happened.
Because the standard is much lower for us. You know,

(01:35:36):
That's why Deshaun Jackson can be anti Semitic, and you know,
essentially people are gonna some people are gonna defend it,
even like his heart's in the right place where if
we didn't, none of us thine, anyone's heart was in
the right place when they say some racist.

Speaker 3 (01:35:48):
Shit, you know what I mean, nobody, no benefiting, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
So I'm not here to punish black men. I'm not
here to dinner grate black men.

Speaker 2 (01:35:55):
I'm here because I love us, I love all our people,
and I don't think challenging somebody to do better is
necessarily a bad thing. I try to challenge myself. I'm
not gonna always get there on everything, but I'm definitely
gonna try to come in with the best intentions. I
hope that we do better. So all right, that was
a long way of saying, you know, thank you for listening,

(01:36:18):
and I appreciate you trying to do better and do
more with the people around you, because it starts with
the people in your face. Like it's easy to do
this little shit on the podcast. It's easy to do
this shit on Twitter. It's easy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
Everyone gets the cherry pick what the fuck counts.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
It's much harder to do this shit to somebody's face,
you know what I mean. One thing, going through these
old episodes, man, listen, you can look at the guests
we used.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
To have, the conversations to have.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
I hope people hear that some of.

Speaker 3 (01:36:45):
That stuff would it would not fly today.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Yeah, not just that, but like the gentle like I'm
not because I'm not afraid of a conversation period, but
the gentle like, hey man, I don't agree with this,
blah blah blah, and then eventually to the well fuck it,
you just don't get to come on the show no more,
you know what I mean, Like, like what you do
and what we do two separate, don't need to mix.

(01:37:08):
So you know, you have to take a stand, man,
and that's something we learned to do over time.

Speaker 1 (01:37:12):
And I'm very proud of what we do now.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
But hopefully if we keep doing this ten more years,
I'll look back at these episodes and be like, we
could have did better, because that's what the goal is, right, Yes, sir,
all right, that's it for today.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
I know I did a lot of talking today. I'm
so sorry, Karen.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
Oh you did you know?

Speaker 4 (01:37:29):
That's the womanly thing to do is let your man
speak in my right lady say up top.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
Well, you know, bad marriage for life. Okay, all right,
that's it. We'll be back tomorrow. I think Monday, we
have Reagan Gomez as a guest on the show. Looking
forward to that. So until then, I love you, I
love it.

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