3031: Advanced Smut Reading

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Rod and Karen are hot.

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that you want to talk about. So we did it up.
We did three or four episodes.

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Throughout the week. You guys listen to him.

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Some of the comments y'all said, some of the stuff
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I got more. I got more for y'all. Did you
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We got emails. We got a ton of voicemails. I
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The lady is quick write.

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You know what the best way to do it, y'all
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All right, Let's get into the episodes that we did
throughout the week and the comments there, since we get
no five star reviews.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Episode Yeah, I Don't love us no more?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Episode three zero twenty seven or threeenty twenty seven after
Dark Mahogany Antique, which I'm burning right now, burning that
candle and it smells delicious. It's one of the best
smelling candles I've ever had. Thank you for sending it in.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
I think it was real candle burning bitch. Yes, that's
what you are I am.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
We got several comments on this episode, seven of them.
Ipia says, I do very often eat informal settings with
people I know only in the work context. Every time
the food comes earlier for some to others say please
start eating. I really want you to. I don't wait
and let your food get cold. I think I never
experienced that someone had to wait and good.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
I see no use in it.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, I really, I really do wonder who are the
people like maybe they're silently judging you, but I I
just completely operate on a different level of like, I
am the opposite. I can't sit there. Your food is hot,
and then we don't know when mine's coming, and then.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
You gotta wait. I'm like, please eat, I'm okay, I'm okay.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
I don't need this is now bothering me that you're
not eating and your food.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
Is getting cold right because I'm watching the temperature decrease
on your food.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
Going, don't you want it hot?

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah? Women hating is a classic. I know.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
When I was a teenager, I thought now that feminism
reached just go fully, everything is good and what's next.
Then I became an adult woman and realized that no,
unfortunately it's still on at least here, I could say,
in schools, in university is pretty equal for all sources
of students. But after it is back on. I'm overall
pretty happy with the sex I was born into. Never
wanted something else. But it doesn't define me at least

(05:45):
I don't think so. But society wants to be defined,
wants to me. I guess to be defined by it.
Stop in society, I'm a somehow hot woman who enjoys
putting towels on the wall more than Bacon Cake, who
always wanted to be a mother and enjoys it but
also loves the big, big farman, big farmer. Yeah, you're

(06:07):
a complicated woman, Opius say. It's because Rod and I
seem to be mind twins. I absolutely thought the same
thing about the CEO shoot and the white guy thought
that someone has to die because he decided. So I'm
not into that, no matter how many photoshop photos of
him I see on social media. America voted for the
side just now that is for less regulation and more
power to the CEO's. There was the chance to change stuff. Yeah,

(06:30):
that's one of the big disconnects for me, and I
get it. You know a lot of people that are
talking about it. We're on the right side of voting, hopefully,
but it is It does say something that we're a
country where a lot of people, at least on social media,
because I don't I don't know how real this sentiment
is if you actually walk down the street. I feel
like social media is some of the most vicious type

(06:51):
of people in rhetoric, and so things get overrepresented and
there's a lot of jokes and not taking things seriously.
So online it may seem like everybody is happy this
guy got killed, But I don't know that it really
is like that offline.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
But let's say that it was.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
It's interesting that we live in a country where people
voted a guy in the president for being a ceo.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Yes, and they loved the way he read quote unquote
ran the business.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
But also he's a vile person. He's a CEO with
great accusations. He's a CEO with sexual assault conviction. He's
a CEO who's about to be sentence in a hunch
money trial. He's a CEO who's you know, had creditors
chasing him all the way, you know, his whole career.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Basically, he's a CEO who's run.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Like business, run run residential areas that were like run down.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
He's CEO declared bankruptcy many times.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
He's a CEO who's university clothes, who you know, like,
he's a guy who's known for reniggad on'deals and doing
all the stuff. I part of me if I find
it a bit hard to believe that everyone's on board
with this. I really do think if we were really
on board, like with this is a society. If we
were for real change, you know, the incremental heard change

(08:08):
where you have to show up every year and vote
and be committed to your local and national elections. I
would be with that. But this is like a get
rich quick scheme. It's like, oh, CEO got shot. This
will change things. It's like, but we know it won't. Okay,
well it won't change things, but it made me feel good.
And it's like, well that's one of the the okay confine.
I'm not fighting you on it, but this you can't

(08:29):
convince me that anything good came with this right now.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
So I don't know if I'm built differently, but I'm like,
I hate to be like this, y'all.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I don't give fuck about feeling good.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
I won't change, and everybody is caught up into feeling
good and what temporarily makes me feel good, not the
longevity of the actual change it has to come, because
guess what, that feeling good will disappear. Them changes. Once
you put them shits in words, you can make it
somewhat more permanent, you know. So in my mind, I

(09:01):
was like, I don't care about feeling good. You know,
the same thing about the election. A lot of people
feel good. But you know comment didn't win. Well, then
I don't can talk about feeling good. I won't results.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Violence creates more violence.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
People who think they are the victim feel they are
entitled to whatever they want because they do it for justice.
Imagine you by accident, like some big CEO who is unpopular,
works probably for male and white listeners. Even if, for example,
my CEO as an Indian man and got shot because
of it, I don't want it for you. And then
she linked to a CEO of some of like a

(09:37):
farmer company or something. I just says, oh, imagine you
look like them. I mean okay, Ron and Rathaiel says
our second year CEO comment. I asked some of my
neighborhoods saying that the killing of the CEO is justified.
Why the same care about health care wasn't there going
into the election. But we voted for a concept of
a plan when it comes to health care, for the
presidency to the white to descend into the White House.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Don't forget.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Also, in addition of voting for a concept of a plan,
they also voted for a person that said they were
going to repeal Obamacare. This is not a serious country.
These people are fucking stupid and they're very shortsighted, and
they don't they don't vote in their interest and so
they take their party favors where they can get them.

(10:18):
They take these symbolic moments that aren't progressed and turn
them into moments in their minds that supposed to mean progress.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
It's like when this guy.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Shoots the CEO and the next day it comes out
there like one of the healthcare companies is likely like
and I don't remember if it was United, but let's
say it is, just to make it even more poignant,
United Healthcare comes out the next day and says, hey,
in Virginia, we're actually not going to go forward with
this plan where we're not going to pay for anesthesia
one hundred per right, And people do causation this correlation

(10:51):
and go, well, because the CEO got killed, they changed
this policy they were going to do the next day, Yay,
it worked. But a decision like that, if any one
of us has ever worked for a company, that's not a.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Decision that's made one in the day. It's not a
decision that's that That shit is litigated.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
That shit has pushed back and forth in the meetings,
that shit is discussed at nauseum, you know, like it's
not a one, it's.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Not a it's not that fast.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
But we will create the connection so that we can
justify the killing. That way, the killing makes sense. It
wasn't in vain. It means something for us. The insurance
companies will be nice to us now because this man
was killed, despite the fact that we're letting in someone
who's probably gonna unregulate and unprotect as many citizens of

(11:42):
the United States as possible. Elon Musk is a guy
who's rightfully not rightfully but like blatantly, who's blatantly said
he's against consumer protections as an agency. So this, you know,
it's not a serious country, but this is what we have.
You know, it's the bread and circuit. But it says

(12:02):
we've had multiple opportunities improve healthcare with decent to good
people offering themselves to fix the problem, and as a nation,
never vote them in. But it's via shooting a ceo
after an election that healthcare will be fixed. The guy
who shot the ceo also supported RFK JR. So I
guess he's the right person to fix health care because
we'll all have abs and a worm in our brain.
IBB just says a new CEO will for sure not

(12:24):
be a friendly hippie who was into free healthcare for all,
but a more paranoid version of the first. I'm just
not in the shooting people as a solution for frustrations.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
The thing for me is like, I don't think it
matters if we support it or don't support it. I
think this kind of crazy is weaponized in America or
empowered empowered in America because of the gun regulations that
we don't have.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
So, you know, it's like thoughts and prayers.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I know a lot of people get, you know, all
up in arms about thoughts and prayers and they fight
back and forth about it.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Mocking it whatever.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
I've never really felt one way strongly or another about
the thoughts and prayer shit because I'm like, I don't
think your thoughts and prayers are changing anything for these
schools getting shot up. I think the thing we saw
that change shit was laws and regulations, and nobody really
seems to want to to. Not enough of us in
the way of these tragedies feel like doing that. So

(13:16):
I can't really get you know, so whether you're cheering
for it. I also remember this when Trump got sick
with COVID and people were like, I would never pray
for him to die.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
It's like, who gives a fuck? Your prayers clearly don't work.
How the fuck is this nigga president? If your prayers
are so strong, it's not gonna help anything. But if
it make you feel better, sure, go ahead and meditate
or whatever. But at the end of the day, like
a lot of bad shit is happening because when we
have a chance to actually do things, we don't, Bean
says while we're still commenting on well, we're still commenting

(13:46):
on Spotify. I know the polls are gone, but your
black out TETs fans are still on there talking y'all
see y'all's comments. I still have to moderate some and
approve some, but I just it's just adding more work
for me to do. And the show was the freeback
shows already already way too long. I mean, listen, eight people,

(14:07):
six people left multiple voicemails today.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
We're gonna be here forever, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I think y'all have I have avenues now if we
want to talk about, like if you want to give
a little more deeper into why I'm doing it in particular.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
The first thing is we're no longer so hosted mostly.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
On Spotify, right, meaning if we don't have that Spotify
hosting platform thing, there's really no reason for us to
drive extra traffic there at this moment. If we ever
go back to being hosted on Spotify or something, then
maybe there's reasons to do it.

Speaker 7 (14:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
The second thing is telling you guys like you, guys
can leave comments there. I don't, it doesn't matter, but
when we don't really read them, it does give you
more incentive to go to our YouTube where we do
get paid and feedback, and also to go to our website,
the blackoutils dot com, which is where you can also
go premium. So those are the real reasons behind it,

(15:02):
in addition to just I you know, I don't want
to make the show longer than already is. I don't
want to give you more work if it's not something
you can do for feedback. But I thought it'd be
nice to know, even if you don't read them on air,
y'all see him thank you, EV says, I think there
would be a different narrative if the shoot or that
CEO would have been black, there's no way so many
people would see him as a hero, and the media

(15:22):
wouldn't have told us he's Valedictoria and how he had
such a bright future.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
Yeah, there's a lot of variables here. I think.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
The first one is if he was if the one
a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
One of the things is if the CEO wasn't a
white man. I hain't thank the truth.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
If the CEO isn't a white man, the shit goes
completely different, no matter if he's in charge of United
health Care or not. Black people have a feeling that's
different about race and breaking that barrier than white people do.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
White the white man is.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
The symbol of the CEO in America, So when someone
breaks the glass or race ceiling or whatever, if that
motherfucker would have shot like the one black Health CEO,
it would have been people have been saying he's a
racist and all kinds of shit, so it wouldn't have
been as clean of a conversation. The other thing is
if the shooter I don't know so much if he
was black, but I will say if he was not attractive,

(16:15):
So like y'all remember Jeremy Meeks, the hot Felling Hot,
Felling Bay or whatever his name was. He's black, but
he's extremely attractive to a lot of people. So if
that that hotness, I think is even more important than
the race, Like he's hot and then people And I'm
not I'm not debating where he's hot.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
I'm just saying this is how he's been treated.

Speaker 8 (16:37):
Agree.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
I know all of you guys are better than that
or some shit. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
But if you think he is hot and you're like,
oh my god, that becomes the story as opposed to
crazy white man shoots CEO. If he had been not
conventionally attractive and he had just looked super crazy.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
This ship would have went totally different. We're a very
superficial culture. We are.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, so anyway, and the Internet is not really designed
honestly to handle very serious shit at this point, not
social media anyway. That's one of the reason I can't
bring myself to care about this anymore than other murder
reported in the news. The terrorism charges are ridiculous, and
Eric Adams is a whole clown from making a spectacle

(17:19):
of himself over this. But this will be such a
non story if there's just a blue collar worker who
was killed. And that's part of the problem. I think
the powers that be afraid they'll be copycats. I think
I don't even think the powers that be are afraid
of copycats at this point. I truly think the media
is the media knows you will click on a link
if they tell you something is related to this class

(17:42):
war type thing, and that's why they the last couple
of weeks they've tried to find crimes that weren't really related.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Not directly people would need the CEOs.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
But they but they've been saying, like a CEO was
stabbed at a meeting, and then you find out, like,
dude's not really a CEO, a small business.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Senior management Sir, sir, this ain't the same, right.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Like they could have had beef over anything. It's not
really about the copycat. You know the woman in Florida
who like called in bomb threats to her insurance company
or something. They were like a copycat and it's like, no,
she's not copycat. She wasn't even close to doing anything.
But you know it does if it bleeds, it leads

(18:26):
all right, comments on YouTube for this when Cynthia says
I never received a Christmas card from you, what's up
with that?

Speaker 3 (18:31):
I sent you an email with my home address Cynthia.
Uh Cynthia.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
That was six days ago, meaning that would have been
on Sunday. We only mailed those cards off on like
the day before or after Christmas. So just keep checking
the mail. You should get it if because I did
mail it to everyone who sent their address in. So

(18:55):
if you sent it in, you should get it. Don't
sweat it. And if if you don't, you know, I guess.
Let us know, Victoria, and if you let us know,
not through through comments.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
On YouTube, email us.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Victoria says, Happy New Year to two of the best
podcasts I've been listening since twenty fifteen. You guys are awesome.
Cheers to health and prosperity in twenty twenty five. Thank you, Victoria.
Do not tell you, says Karen Hunter. Clips on the
YouTube is how I learned of this podcast. I love
that there are over three thousand episodes. I've been listening
to old episodes between new shows. I'm grateful to have

(19:29):
discovered a forty in over podcast. Well, if you keep
listening to old episodes, you're gonna find out it was
not always a forty in over podcast.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Yeah, yeah, we've been doing this for a while. Forty yeah, unexperienced.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Cynthia says, Happy New Year. Thank you Cynthia.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
And let's see the Paul was did you take a
vacation in twenty twenty four?

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yes or no?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Seventy two percent say yes, twenty eight percent said no,
we didn't.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
I take about I'm thinking about it. I saying no,
we took days off, but we didn't go anywhere.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
No, we did not take a vacation. It's been a
long time since a big.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Thing for us, though.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
I think the Hornets season tickets are like three vacations,
Like I might not get them next year. It just
really depends on how I feel. But there's a chance
I don't get them next year, just so that we
can like do some vacation type ship, you know, because
because obviously we're not made of money. It's not like
we're taking vacations and we're going all these games like, no,

(20:29):
we gotta make some.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Sacrifice, decisions got to be made.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
All right, Let's get you know, before we go to
the next episode. Let's get some money, since.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Ain't nobody won't leave us no motherfucking five star.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
Reviews, right, A take that personally.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Let's get some money real quick and then we'll come back.
Here we go, Let's do it.

Speaker 8 (20:54):
The grammar, the grammar, the grand.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
That was a short one.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
All right, Episode three zero, twenty eight Old versus New.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
We had the homie Oh ain, no, no, no, this
is just wait. Yeah, we had Yeah, we did have
Dominic Rivera on.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I had to remind myself because the beginning of the
description doesn't have dom Normally, says Ryd and Karen are
joined by somebody, but I remember now Don was late,
so we did the whole banter without dom and then
we were joined by Don later in the show.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
He was on PR Time.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
All right, episode three tower, twenty eight Old Versus New
with Dominic Rivera, we got eight comments.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
Let's get into him.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Tanya W forty two says how Rod and Karen Happy
New Year to you and all the tip nation. Since
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Thank you, There you go. Shout out to DL She's cool.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Rono Raphael says, I wish I was in the chat
to accuse Donald Bacon bread in an apartment hen since
being late, one of his pandemic jokes that I loved.
I was walking on the street during the Fat Joe
versus FBA, and I can't keep up with these acronyms.
I almost walked into a white woman while laughing. Put
me in a very awkward spot because I could see
Doctor Umar staring and Fat Joe at the at the

(22:36):
Fat Joe at the same time saying I got you, Nigga, Poppy,
what's good? Coquito and plantains? Let's go. I'll continue to
observe as a watcher. So will Tarique and Doctor Emar
Umar drop a response track?

Speaker 3 (22:49):
I wonder. I feel like they've probably already been talking
shit on Twitter.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yeah, I'm just I'm outside that loop. I don't follow
them circles.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
The Beasts of twenty twenty four should be a book.
Write at Rob Happiens Sucessful twenty twenty five to the
Blackout Test nation. Y'all made it through twenty twenty four
with no beef with my only love love right back
at you, discount included, Now I was beef, nigga.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
You kept bringing up that middle name.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I ain't forgotten, babe, says dear Careen. The closest thing
I listened to that I consider political is the Blackout
tips and three G three guys on and I consider
you are more cultural than political. I've also tapped out
in the two months up to the election, and since
the election, I've stopped listening to political feminists and non
fiction audiobooks, but I immersed myself into cozy romances and

(23:31):
cozy witch mysteries on Spotify and my library's audiobook platform Libby.
I've also been listening to regular dagulas steamy romances as well.
Let me recommend Talia Hibbert. She's a black British romance
author and all her female characters are black, curvy and
have natural hair. She features neurodivergent les, lee's who practice
different religions, and those who are all over.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
The LGBTQIA spectrum.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Over the next four years, I plan to wrap myself
in comfort and joy and pray that Trump won't destroy
the country too badly. I'm not giving up by but
I'm just recharging sinceirely.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
That's kind of you know how I feel like really
though I said, I know I'm going to come back,
but as of right now, all that time. Funny, I
actually don't know when, Like when I tapped out, I
tapped out hard, because it's one of those things when
I was alert and I was there, and I was
paying attention, and I was on top of things, you know,

(24:25):
and just aware of everything, I didn't mind.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
But it's also very frustrating.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
When you know the truth and you can see these
things happening, and you see these trends, and you see
you see a lot of ignorance, You see a lot
of misinformation, You see a lot of disinformation. You see
a lot of people that are being enough to you
see a lot of people arguing for argument's sake.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
You see a lot of.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
People that that that are willfully uninformed. Like like when
you see a lot of those things happening, like kind
of just all across the board, all over the place,
and then you go, Okay, I know I see all this,
but not your funny you go are we really this stupid?
And then the answer is yes. I can't take it.

(25:10):
Like I was like, okay, okay, so everybody stupid with me?
Everybody done but me, nobody has no fucking common sense, Okay,
I so why the fuck am I here?

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah? I think.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
For me, these are there times where I actually don't
mind going back and reading and listening to things that
are more historical, not necessarily trying to analyze the current
political moment. I think a lot of this stuff people
kind of failed us in their analytical skills all the

(25:45):
way up to the Trump election, and so I don't
necessarily want to hear that from some of the people
that I feel are, if not complicit, at least unaware,
you know so, And and I definitely don't want to
listen because I do feel like there's a lot of
people that don't realize what they're doing with their bargaining,

(26:08):
and because they're in bargaining mode of grief, the bargaining stage,
they're lying.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Because bargaining is a lie. Bargaining is if.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I do this, I you know, God, if you just
do this, then I won't drink another drink for a month,
And you know, I'll just you know, just I'll just
have a sip, but I won't get drunk, you know,
Like that's the bargaining stage of like addiction and all
this stuff. I think I said grief, but I'm but
I'm with you anyway. I'll say all that to say, Like,
to me, bargaining is trying to tell me that the

(26:38):
Democrats had a primary we they would have won. No, No,
it's a lot. You know, it's of COMMLO would a
rund a different campaign.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
No, it's a lie.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
It's not that you had the worst candidate on the
other side in every way, it's not there's nothing you know,
it's not Palestine, it's not any of that. We as
a country just chose this bullshit and so we did.
To me, it's given me a level of solace to
which I'm not necessarily I don't necessarily need to hear
everybody's analysis of the current climate. And we already know

(27:11):
the stuff that they're gonna do. So while I'm not
necessarily ignoring it, I'm just not gonna be tapped into
the misery of it every day.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
And I think I'm not alone.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
I think a lot of people you can tell by
the numbers of ratings on cable news and stuff, the
podcast numbers and stuff like a lot of people are
seeing a lack of a lack of listenership and a
lack of audience because of these this think the fallout
of this stuff. What I would add, though, is I
do like listening to things that put that are about

(27:43):
historical moments and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Like I did.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
I finished Town of Hozey Coaches the message. I'm currently
reading Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman. I listened
to a great podcast on the media this morning that
was about a mayor and imperialism and the history of
it and why our map looks the way that it looks,
even though we clearly taken on different territories and stuff

(28:10):
like that.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
I like that stuff because.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
It actually reminds me of how not far we are
from that, and I think more people need to be
aware of it. I think part of the reason we
got here is because a lot of people do not
remind themselves. They want to go hide in the comfort
and wrap themselves and whatever. And while that may be
feel like a good escape, I think it is key

(28:37):
to be informed, not just reminded, Like on an emotional level,
I mean informed mentally, logically, because you need that when
we're out in this society with these other people who
are erasing this very knowledge in real time. So we're
becoming the knowledge keepers, we're becoming the people. And also

(28:58):
it gives me that code realness that when you tell me, well,
it's because they didn't have a primary, I get to go, well,
then explain all this other shit that's been happening in
the world, the entire history of America.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
You tell me that was a primary.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Really, what was keeping us from happening was one political
ad was not going on Joe Rogan, like, we need
to talk about these things, you know. It's why so
many people enjoyed that rant I went on about Jimmy
Carter because people are like, yes, that's the actual context
that's between. But I can only know the then by

(29:34):
going and listening and reading and knowing about the then,
so I can compare it to the now and put
now in a different context that you're not gonna hear
anywhere else, because most people are not interested in that.
They want to They do want to wrap themselves in
comfort and check out. And that's fine. I'm not telling
people be uncomfortable dwell in misery. But I just think,
like I'm speaking specifically solely for myself, these are the

(30:00):
moments I actually go back and want to see the history,
not even for hope, but honestly just for solace and
just for confirmation in my mind that I'm not fucking crazy.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Agree because it will make you. You think that, And
it's also one of those things where I agree you
do have to have a balance, and it's very hard
to have that balance when you're still I know, for
me personally, I'm still processing a lot of emotions.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Like literally every day I'm fine and.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
Then I think about something that I'm mad, you know,
So you know, so it's like a processing process for me.
You know, I'm not gonna say I will ever quote
unquote get over it, because I know me I won't.
I'm still mad about the first try and be elected
that nigga, So I will always be upset. But it's
just one of those things where it has to be

(30:57):
a balance. And I like you, Roderick, I am like
I don't want to hear your lies. I don't want
to hear your excuses. I don't want to hear the
sob sad stories like you know, because like this is
the We've been through this before, and I refuse to

(31:19):
go I refuse to go through this thing with you again.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
And at the end of the.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
Day, no lessons were learned. That's what I've learned.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
No lessons were learned because me and Roger were saying
this from the first time. We was like, ah, y'all,
they are playing the exact handbook and everybody going, Nah,
this time is gonna be different. We goa know, the
same thing is happening. It's just more of it and
it's just worse. And I think for me personally, I

(31:50):
felt ghastly a lot. I felt like you saying these things,
you're talking to people, Everybody looking at you like you're
the crazy one, like you don't know what you were
talking about. And it can be very, very frustrating and disheartening.
So yes, for now, I am tapped out. I'm completely
tapped out. I will come back, but my heart and
I just as up right now. I just cannot take it.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
I've be just said same here with the black out Tists.
That's enough for me.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
For American Politics, also says I like this podcast so
much that I listen even to some of the sports
talk without having any idea about it or interest in it.
But when Rod talks about it, it at least sounds like
it could be fun. Nev says, I think you may
be onto something. Regarding Christmas sweater's Karen, I'm a bit
of a scrooge about Christmas, especially early in December. I'm
more of a Halloween person, but I'm trying not to
be in Also, as Rod puts it, I'm an extravert

(32:37):
who loves attention. Maybe I'll put more effort into looking
festive next year. I'm sure attention enjoy it would.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
Be good for me. Yeah, I'm really sincerely.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Say try it, because, like I said, I don't even
really necessarily like that much attention in general. But during
this time of the year, when I put on that
sweater and I know what I'm like. I know when
I put on that sweater versus just like a hood,
I know, like, okay, people gonna say something, and I
like it.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
People are very nice about it.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Sergeant Ballard says the h one visas are so hard
on everyone, but the company's using them. The people who
are employed can't change job titles without a ton of paperwork,
so there is no ability most times for promotions or
changing jobs. It's super hard to go from one company
to another, so you're almost into the indentured servant area.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
And that would be a little point. Yep, that's the point.

Speaker 9 (33:31):
Come.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
They want to be able to send you back and
you disgruntled. They want to be able to make you,
force you one hundred and twenty hours, make you live
at the office, like all types of shit. They know
of you American, you would tell them to kiss you
American ads and go find an American job.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Why do you need white man paperwork? The thing that
I think people really need to or not people, I
don't know, but the thing that stuck out to me.
Let me just say that it was a point I
didn't see anybody making, but it's a point that I'll make.
That exchange about that everyone delighted in. You know, Maga's

(34:05):
having a civil war blah blah blah, which I still
can't get excited about because it's not anything legislative or
of consequence. It's just them bitching at each other online.
That doesn't really mean anything. Yet these people, if they
get their shit together, have total control of the government.
So sir, we'll see what happens when the real bullets
are flying.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Not just tweets. Ain't that the truth?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
But that exchange is so interesting because Vivid and Elon
Musk were really going up and praising the work ethic
and the family values and cultural values of these immigrants
on the H one n one visas and to the

(34:51):
detriment of American values, which in this case people took
as white people values.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
You know, y'all white.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
People in America like culture and coolness and stuff over
nerdiness and smartness and all this stuff and family fine, whatever.
I think what a lot of people missed in the whole, like, ooh,
they calling y'all niggas, and they're saying they're saying white
people are fucked up. They're not praising the immigrants. That's

(35:23):
not what's happening here.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Now.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
It looks like they're praising them on its face, but
that's only if you're dumb enough to take them at
face value. The most valuable thing those immigrants have for
them is that is the visas that allow them to
essentially control them and keep them from getting rights and
pushing back and.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Things like.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
What they really don't value about Americans is that Americans
have the ability to push and fight for themselves. What
they value about those immigrants is that they don't, and
so all the other stuff is just sugary coating over
the top of essentially just super hyper capitalistic abusive tactics.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
That's all it is.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
It's just them going, Hey, these people that we can abuse,
it's because they're better people than you, right, and you
know it, Let us abuse you, and then we wouldn't
even want these motherfuckers over here. That's not what they're.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Saying they are.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
And even if everything they said was true about them
being smarter and all that stuff, even if it was true,
it's not those guys Elon Munz Vivig Grim's from me.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
They don't they don't value those things all right.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Even he says, you briefly brought up she meet Moore,
but didn't get into it fully because Dominic came on.
But I'd love to hear thoughts on his weirdo behavior.
He says some problematic things in the past about black
people and how he's once again in the spotlight for
being a Creek. The way he was acting over Hailey
Steinfeld after engagement announcement was truly strange, and then I
saw those videos of when they promoted it into the
Spider Verse. She seems so uncomfortable that he was being

(36:55):
extra towards her. And then he suposted a pick of
him and the girl from Spider Man Homecoming and she
asked him to take it down and he didn't. I
wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't get to voice the
next Spider Verse movie, if he continues the strange behavior.
You summed it all up, That's all I was gonna
bring up. And yeah, it is weird, and he's lucky.
Blake Lively shit popped off because he was fitting to
be number one Summer jam screen.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Yeah, but that but that rose to a to the
occasion it was like hold my beer.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, and I'm still not sure. I think he will
be back. We'll find out. But I think he's actually
gonna I don't. I think because that shit popped off
a certain kind of way, he's actually gonna be able
to find a way back.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
So yeah, because it didn't quote unquote turn into something.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Whereas if if the Blake Lively thing didn't pop off,
I think he would have been out of a job.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
But we'll find out.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
YouTube. So you that says, great show and funny guests.
I just knew the show was gonna be titled Tip
Triple CP time.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Don replied, appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
M Rust says this episode brought me so much joy
in a difficult holiday season. And I don't even follow basketball.
Have dom on more often? Best podcasts in the world.
Don replied, hope you feel better that. Here's to the
new year positivity to us all. Yeah, you know, doors
always open for dom.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
I told him. Rob says, I appreciate the NBA talk here.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I've gone back and watched games from when I was
a kid before born in your late eighties, and I
so really only remember the mid nineties on word, You're
absolutely right that people's nostalgia blinds them that and there
aren't actually in watching the game and just listen to
the media to form their opinion. Most of the lots
of miss long twos in the nineties games I've rewatched,
and I think the reason people hyper focus on miss
threes today is that the miss long twos of the

(38:37):
year's past aren't a separate statistical category. Rob, this is brilliant,
This is really smart. I'm going to add this to
my repertoire of when I push back on this dumb
ass narrative about the don't shoot the long threes and
that it's too many long threes, because I guarantee you,
if we add up the long twos of the past,

(38:58):
which we're also equally as likely to be missed, but
also not not worth the risk of missing the many cases,
not worth the risk of the shot comparatively, you might
just take that two steps back. Yes, sir, I really
think that that someone needs to do a hyper analysis
of that, because I would love to see those results,

(39:19):
because what we're now talking about is the aesthetics of
the game and just going well. I like the feel
of a long two being missed versus the feel of
a long three being missed even if it's wide open,
And to me, that's insanity.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Delay and that's just a personal preference. I don't I
don't care.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Delay just says I can't remember if there's the episode
with the y n NBA conversation. But Karen be known
because young boy NBA does stand for it never broke again,
So play her music.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
I know she knows. I've told her a lot of times.
She the one.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
I think the joke is that she's acting like she
don't know. Am I not right? You know that NBA
Stanford never broke again. Whenever I say young boy, a
young boy NBA or whatever, NBA young boy which is
his name, not young boy NBA, Yeah, never broke again.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yeah, you know that.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
He just always makes the joke because she likes to
act like she don't know anything.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
And sometimes my brain go, nigga, never broke again, and
I'll be like, no, that's not it.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Care I know it's never broke again.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
And anime Prince sas old Maga thinks Trump is going
to have their aid. But news flash, Trump is a
lame duck president. This means he doesn't need y'all vote
anymore for any reason. He got what he wanted out
of his campaign to avoid jail and paler around with
other billionaires.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Now Vivid and Elin are saying.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
The quiet part about America out loud, revealing that many
what many of them saying, these oligarchs do not like us.
Only white America is slow on the uptake because they
can't let go of the covert slash overt racism and
feel good just brought up to shimik more crash out.
So I like I said, even he kind of covered
what I was gonna say, and I talked about a
little bit on three Guys on we went on there last,

(41:01):
all right. The poll was do you have any New
Year's resolutions? Thirty one percent Yes, sixty sixty percent though
I see you next year was the next episode. Let's
see what we got here. Five comments. Appre says, of course,
I agree on Jimmy Carter and our add Nostalgia is dangerous.
People tend to think that people in the past were better,

(41:24):
less egoistic, less violent, and more pro community. This is
a lie, right, There were always exceptional people and also terrible.
People think the awful stuff that happened in the past
because some wanted it to happen, no matter what the
evidence says, facts like statistics on violent crime. It was
worse in the nineties, but people think the worst is today.
The past seems so much better than many. I think

(41:45):
because it's over and Revision's history can do its work,
and because dead or at least retired people can't do
new shit that disappoints at least or less at least
agree won of Rafael says, play riders right before I
even begin. Technically, I should have a so on by now.
But that's not why I'm here.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
You don't get a song two strikes already.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
You know when I ruled out that using Jimmy Carter
to shit on obama twenty sixteen elections, I have mofos pumped,
and they were.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
They brought it up.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
I pointed out that the Clinton Foundation was doing plenty
of great work for many communities of color around the world.
Orange pos had just promises paycheck to the National Parks
and some donation to vets.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Both flew into the abyss.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
But hey, Obama, and I asked the guys being all
loud about Clinton, why Trump never gave a dime to
the homeless vets until he won the GOP ticket. That's
when the cracks are getting up here. They don't care.
It's just good for winning a social media flexing. Apply
that same energy to everyone. But nah, welcome to twenty
twenty five, folks. I'm selling new crusades now. In fact,
we're gonna march to Jerusalem and overthrow that in Yahoo.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
By we equal you who paid.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I'll be on vacation like the poach or in the
original crusade. It ain't a scam if I get your
holy water from the river Jordan.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
And that's why you do not get a song luck.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Buddy Sean says, as long as the MVSU band plays
not like us, I think I can support them because
Trump is known for playing an a minor. Shoe Booty
says he just got a lot of ignorant shit. He
just says a lot of ignorant shit could be said
of most dudes podcasts. That's true too, shoe Boody. But

(43:20):
Charleston White is It's not even just a podcast. His
life is just saying shit. Even He says, I like
to be wrapped in my blanket when I'm at home too,
Even in the summertime when the air conditioner is too cold,
I'll be in some shorts and a T shirt. But
I wrapped myself up in a blanket and refuse to
turn the air conditioner down. I made the best purchase
of my life last month when I found a fleece
blanket hoodie that I have worn every day around the house.

(43:42):
I got mine and Costco for twenty bucks. Hashtag team Blanket.
Is Charleston White a rapper? I have only heard of
him when he said something stupid? Is he like the
male Azalea Banks. No, because Zalia Banks at least has
an album like two on two or something.

Speaker 3 (43:56):
You can go back to. Charleston White is not a rapper.
He's just an aiga okay, like his.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Whole claim like on his resume, it's just ignorance, like
employed by ignorance from this day to this date.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
You know. Uh, let's see YouTube. Jingsville says. The thing that.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Makes me even more mad about the landlord stealing money
from his tennis is are they going to be able
to get that money back? I'm sure a lawsuit will
be successful, but does a landlord even have the money.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
To give back right property? Does nobody gone? Pell me o,
pel me o emo.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
I think that's right, Palemo. I believe the Rod does
protest too much.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Methinks.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Now I'm thinking Rod definitely has a thumbostab app on
his phone. I do, and so does Karen, so I
don't take your point. Karen likes to be wrapped up
and there's nothing y'all can do. CBJ Morgan says, one
hundred on your Jimmy Carter take. Thank you for articulating
the feeling I couldn't regarding all these tributes to him
upon his death from fakers.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
The country is a mess yep it is.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Big Tom says on that Jimmy Carter, Joe Biden point,
all I have to say is preach brother, tell it.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
My name. Eighty three w W says, spitting hot fire.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I love hearing y'all go off on Biden's accomplishments.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Is it possible to request.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
A short form or short from and it's a certain
minute mark. Yeah, totally possible, And I'll make a note
of that to send to the.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Peoples so they can cut it.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
The poll is, will Jeff Tague apologize for having Charleston
White on this podcast? Thirteen percent say yes, eighty seven
percent say no. As of right now, I have no
idea if he's apologized. I don't know when the show
schedule is, but it's.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Gonna be interesting.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Gonna be interesting because I can see it. I can
see him not apologizing and getting away with it. At first,
I couldn't. I was like, oh no, But you know,
as more time passes, the more I feel like, you
just come back and act like nothing happened.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
And most people won't say shit.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
They let it roll and either they'll leave or their
stake like, he goes back. The decision is yours.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
Basically, yeah, and I guess that you know, maybe you
just don't high like that episode and all the shit
you said, but yeah, it can happen. Last episode of
the week was episode thirty thirty. The media is the
medium app You're left the first three comments who normally

(46:15):
get late in the week, and she starts slowing down.
She just got more fired up. We stayed at home
on New Year's Eve and I loved it. I went
to sleep at eleven o'clock and felt as if we
got away with something. I stay away from fireworks as
far as I can here. We had no problems here
in my city. The problem are in the bigger city.
We were once in Frankfurt years ago on the New

(46:37):
Year's Eve, and I was very afraid and decided never
to do it again. Fireworks are only allowed here in
a very short time around New Year's and some people
go crazy. No one at least shoots guns here in
New York's Eve, but I still don't enjoy it. Hear
the rare moment where I have another opinion. I am
against alam as against guns as someone can be. People
are irrational, They drink. They forget to secure the guns,

(46:57):
but they should. They should not have guns. But not
paying too much attention after such a tragedy might be,
in a weird way, a better choice. The terrorist wants
all the attention to other potential terrorists see it on
TV and want to recreate it. When it doesn't even
get so much attention, it probably not worth it for them.
It's not the way to fame. Like in the past.
You see how people make the CEO killer hero, even

(47:18):
people who don't think of themselves as terrorists.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
I mean, you say it's a rare other opinion, but
I don't even know if that's another opinion. I don't
Maybe I don't recall us saying anything about like we
need to pay as much attention to these killers as possible,
and you know, all that shit.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
So I don't don't.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
I feel like that's being presented as an alternative opinion,
but that's not I kind of agree with that.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
I don't know if it's possible. That's the thing, you know.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
I think in a sensationalized world where news is spread
social media first and fast, and who can get the
most attention on it, I think We've just the horses
out of the barn. We're as soon as someone does
something crazy, everyone's got their social media feeds, their manifestos,

(48:10):
their friends videos, they posted their their you know everything online,
their name, where they work.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
It's just it's over for that. At this point.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Our best option is not to worry about the psychology
of the people who do this shit, but to worry
about the rules that could stop them from having access
to the guns to do this shit. In America, we've
given up that fight, and I think that's to me
more important than whether or not you remember a mass
murderer's name, is what if we could keep someone from

(48:40):
being a mass murder because they couldn't go get an
AR fifteen on a web you know, so easily? Right,
She says, I'm not a negative about the Internet and
health information, but it may be also because my background.
There's great information out there, and sometimes the doctor isn't
as up to date as they should be. But also
there's terrible misinformation, So how to know what's what? Probably
education helps. When I read something about detox, it's not real.

(49:01):
I know the creator isn't shit. When it looks so exciting,
it's probably wrong.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
I mean, yeah, I don't know how you regulate the information.
I just think that we're in a perilous time when
it comes to the lack of trust and institutions versus
the amount of trust people are putting into influencers or
individuals that aren't vetted by anybody.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
The Internet is to blame for that, and partially COVID
because a lot of people started going down this rabbit
hole with COVID. Not that just wasn't always there, It's
just that COVID kind of shined the light on it.
Because people spent hours and days and weeks and months,
you know, in the house not doing shit.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
So they started kind of going down.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
These rabbit holes and some people went down and was like, ah,
something wrong. Some people went down there and they just
they never came back. And they I literally house forever
a name, never coming back.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
Ramsey Y Jingen says what happened in Nola was crazy.
I'm glad they postponed the Sugar Bowl till Thursday. I'm
hoping security is better for the upcoming Super Bowl than
Marti Gras. I'm sure it will be, but I also
don't think I think a lot of this is posturing,
meaning that uh, it makes us feel better to say, like, oh,
and then this will secure the super Bowl. If somebody

(50:24):
is willing to lose their life, there's very little you
can do to prevent it, like unless you're on some like,
uh fuck, what's that Tom Cruise movie minority report, Unless
you're on some minority report shit where you can like
know what a person's gonna do before they do it,
which is possible through a lot of surveillance, which people
also have a lot of misgivings about. Unless you can

(50:47):
stop them before they do the shit. Once a motherfucker
decide my life is forfeit, there's not a lot that
can be done to stop a person from like like
that from killing a bunch of people. You know, it's
sad and it's and it's mostly because of our rules
in America, meaning other countries don't have this problem as much,
not that they're not that they never have it. I

(51:08):
mean you see stuff in Europe all the time where
someone does get a whole, but it's not as often
as America. Like it's a it's a real tragedy when
it happens to other places and they go and change
laws and shit, but not here. Rona Rafael says, last
year I kicked. Last year kicked off with Cat Williams
exploding the Internet. This year kicked off with real life exploding.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Good thing.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
I danced to Kendrick's We're Gonna be all right just
before midnight on New Year's Eve. Now was preparing to
drop a story from my eyewitness support on New Year's Eve,
fireworks in Germany and Nigeria separate witness witness by rain too.
But it was mild compared to what man seen in
those places.

Speaker 3 (51:45):
Makes the time traveler repent.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
But that's not why I'm here band tiktoking all these
fake hos pretending to be wellness whatever on the app.
By the way, is it any wonder why the most
popular dude on TikTok doesn't speak and just smiles or
does that I don't know thing? Are you talking about
that brother that does the that thing? If a fanatical
group carried weapons all themselves up and told us to
not trust experts, most of us, regardless of political affiliations,

(52:09):
would say fuck off. But shirtless man a woman ORed
up saying the same thing. Oh yeah, they spitting or we.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Looking China's hilarious. Yeah, that's good China one.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
If this is how they figured out they take over
the world, I got to respect that hustle. I support
the band. At the same time, she had almost launched
a rival the only fans guess I need my own TikTok.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Great episode again.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Ms Barr says, my doctor is grateful that I am
not that patient that will bring something to her that
I found on the internet. I mean, how does it
sound when me, a patient will trust something off the
internet instead of a trained professional, when my actual with
my actual lab results. Who these are different times that
we are living in.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Yeah, I know that got to drive some doctors nuts,
like yeah, when they literally are telling you, hey, these
these are the fact and these are the things and
these are the medication, and you like, nah, I'm listening
to folks on any and then you come back to
that with the consequences of your actions, and now they go, okay.
I know they got to be like, we could have
vented all this bullshit if youd just listened to me.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
And one of the reasons that I really think about
that a lot is that we're not necessarily doing that
with everything, meaning like if I take if I don't
know that much about cars and I take my car
to this shop, I'm not pulling out a YouTube or
some tweet to be like I don't think I do

(53:31):
need a muffler, you know what I mean. So like,
it's weird that this is the one area. It's like,
because we all have bodies, we all think we must
be experts on our bodies. But you know, there's a
reason they do these tests and shit, and we will
just as much blame the doctor if it goes untreated
or undiagnosed or whatever as we will for misdiagnosed, as
we will for at this point now accurately diagnosing and

(53:54):
suggesting changes. It's just really become like a I'm the expert,
because Joe Rogan said, I'm the expert type of thing.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Right, And you know what the end result of it
is is gonna be more deaths, like across the board,
because people are just gonna be doing stupid shit, gonna
be killing themselves because they don't know what the fuck
they're doing.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Nord, talking about.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Sean says, I read through to five I read through
the five journal articles before I take a new medication.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
But I've got the training and the PhD.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
Having pharmaceutical commercials on TV in the US is crazy
because they are designed to create uninformed demand, which helps
breed distrust. That being said, I think the Colt mentality
believes believe us in everyone else's line has been fostered,
especially in the US over the past half century from
the Reagan political campaign. But don't trust the government, trust
greed based corporations. To Fox News, all mainstream media is

(54:42):
false except us. To Apple marketing strategy joined the Apple ecosystem,
rejectile of the technology. The US is in the day
with organizations trying to utilize the machinery designed by Colts,
It's hardly surprising that people who grew up in the
world forced in cult methodology are using it for their
podcast membership growth, statedaies Iv. He says, I spent my
New Year's in bed watching anime and have no regrets.

(55:02):
The biggest surprise I have about returning to Max Song
is that the dude is British. I don't know why
that's funny to me, but it is. My guy came
out of prison looking for the smoke brus.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
I was listening to some British ship hop the other day.
And man, still adorable. I love it. It's so good. It's
so good.

Speaker 4 (55:22):
He's like, y'all probably gonna fuck me up, but all
and like I should.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
I know I should be offended on some day, not
like us where the real blacks and y'all are saying
the N word and I know y'all don't be using
it the same way over there.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
I don't care, do not care. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
They like even when they say it, they don't say
it right, and I still like it. It's just they
be rapping it different and it's so, it's so, it's
so how I just want to pinch their cheeks, you know,
when they just rapping like one way down, the wrong
way or whatever the fuck you know, wrong way down
or one way beans.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Are tots to you what might or whatever the fuck
they've been saying.

Speaker 4 (56:00):
Oh oh man, I was like, that's a pot played again.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Yeah, it was like they be talking real proper. To
went to school on a Sunday, got ice cream? No Sunday.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Yes, let's go.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Martin Luther King on a Monday from way down on
one way.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
And be so passionate.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
I'm here for it.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Bangers a mash You what mate. Anyway, it's great shout
out to the British hip hoppers. Man, y'all can say
that anywhere y'all got my past, I'll give it to
y'all except shits and gigs. Christ Storm says, love is convo,
Happy New Year, Calibra, Mike, I mean Cali Bro. Mike
says band band THEMN shits a band band because Karen

(56:49):
said band instead of band.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
B a in Rashad says they.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
Got on that crack, stayed on that crack and it's
hard to get off. In such an honest statement that
Karen made about going down the conspiracy rabbit hole facts,
Christal says, just want to say, I love y'all's banter.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Y'all be speaking about soul.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I too, had no idea of what or where the
macros are turning from. Yeah, it's kind of weird that
he didn't sing it in an accent of the bridge,
like at least the British rappers rap in that British accent.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Now, yeah they do.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
Yeah, they gonna be like, y y'all gonna get this
is who I am?

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Yeah, why wasn't he singing it British? Like?

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Also, don't reply happy New Year messages until the next day,
sometimes next week, we twins. Jingsville says, Yeah, it's wild
that Postman's book feels even more relevant today than it
did in the eighties. Have a few critiques of the
book here and there, mainly around his overlooking the race
and fantasizing of the printing press and oh, the media's
ideal and saying that society was better before TV, like

(57:49):
they wasn't reading newspapers while owning slaves and falling for propaganda.
But of course he overall here on the nail on
the head, and we're in a load of trouble because
people look at politics and entertainment something y'all say a
lot on here a lot, Yeah, treat our politicians like celebrities,
or celebrities like politicians. Going off of mclone mclulland mclewan's
the message of the medium is the message of TV's

(58:11):
messages entertainment. As Postman says, I think of defining social
media message as attention. Yes, everything is for attention, doesn't
matter if it's good or bad, wrong or right, tru
or false. Folks just post whatever for the clicks and
the views.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
Yeah, and attention is currency. Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
The So this is, like I said, I'm not finished
with postings book, and I think that's a valid critique
of all. Pretty much any person that has a wishful
look at the past, if they're especially if they're a
white person, almost always to me, has a racial lens

(58:49):
that is a bit deficient. And I don't expect them
to necessarily be up on the shit because they're white.
They you know, it's like, it's like, yeah, most people
when they talk about the past are talking from a
point of privilege when they when they romanticize it, when
they act like this was less problematic than the other stuff.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
So yes, I'm one hundred sure.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
You're right that when you're you know, many I always
noticed it, many of the examples in the book when
he's like and in seventeen eighty one, the first printing
press was made in the thirteen colonies, and it changed
this and then and then people start reading newspapers, and
I think if what I would say is it is
Germane to his point, that.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Or not Jermaine it it is.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Not Germane to his point, Meaning you can take out
race from the argument he's making and it won't bother
me because he's really talking about the method of communication.
He's not saying these were better people. And that's not
what I'm taking from the book, is that.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
These people were more moral.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
And virtuous back then. Maybe he'll make that argument later,
but that's not what I'm getting. Like, even when he
talked about how people were more religious, he doesn't make
it seem like and that's and that was better.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
You know, it makes it seem to me like that
was just different.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
So I and I don't think the people become morally
better or different.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
But I do think as a society.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
We become more scattered, and we value different things differently,
and definitely becoming a less literate, less patient, less thoughtful
society has given rise to just a different form of corruption,
because you know, it is it is.

Speaker 3 (01:00:40):
I think it's at its core.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Humanity is a very corrupted and corruptible. You know, we're
as an entity. It's easy for us to follow for
the darkest nature. So I don't know that that it
really matters if you're reading those novel versus your getting
it on a tweet. But yeah, people's ability to be

(01:01:05):
cold towards each other, I think it's universal over time.
It's not something that's Jermaine that just just stuck to
just one era of time or whatnot.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
So I agree with that. Let's see. Sharon the Baron says,
it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
I've been listening to podcasts for ages, but I don't
follow on social had no clue how you to look
love your glasses.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Karen Kim Doc.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Says, I wouldn't imagine the sorrow these families are experiencing.
I couldn't imagine the car he rented could go from
zero to sixty in a flash. The destruction was unreal.
I was just in New Orleans with my girl in November.
She didn't even want to go on to Bourbon Street.
She said that it's not secure at all. Nope, my goodness,
blessing to those families. What's shocking about the offender is
how normal he seems like this could be a coworker.

Speaker 10 (01:01:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
I didn't really look that much into his like life
or whatever as far as like.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Why he did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
It at first, and then like because it takes time,
and then people started doing the like this is what
was happening, and between him and the guy that blew
up the truck in front of the Trump motel, the
the thing they really truly have in common is that
they both were veterans, and they both were going through

(01:02:27):
like domestic disputes and divorces and shit and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Like like.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
And Roger has said this before a lot of times
when because he watched like a lot of a lot
of those what you call them TV one shows and
all those types of shows true crimes. And for a
lot of them, it might be an exception to the
rule rules, But ninety nine point nine percent of these men,

(01:02:56):
it's some woman, be it their girlfriend's sister, brother that
they you know, I mean mother, they end up killing somebody,
fucking out with somebody, the baby or something.

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
You're saying true crime, I'm not. That's not what I
was talking about when I brought that up. It's it's
it's ninety nine percent of these men who do this
stuff that are mass shooters.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
It's something with a woman.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Okay, that start like, it's not necessarily over a woman
all the time, but it's something there's a there's a
woman who's been abused, starked, killed many times.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Then they crash out on everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Right, But a lot of times, I don't know, but
a lot, but the percentage is high. It's like very
consistent through line that we in a smooth eighties, very
consistent through line that these men abuse some women first.
It's like how people say serial killers kill animals first,
and then they start killing people. Men that do stuff

(01:03:52):
like this abuse women and a high clip and then
whether it's a divorce or whatever, next thing you know
that's shooting up a.

Speaker 3 (01:03:58):
School and you're like, how did we here?

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Jason says, the TikTok journey has been a wild ride,
starting innocently with white girls talking black taking black girls
dances and making millions. Then took a detour to ruin jail,
Corvid's career, Covian's career, and now it's taking the place
of the CDC. This whole Trump TikTok could be interesting.
It's funny how he was the first to say less Bennett,

(01:04:23):
then he met with the owners. All of a sudden
he's good with them. I'm sure after some campaign donations.
If he wasn't the most financially compromised president in the
history of the United States, almost be suspicious. My only
concern is that he's able to save it. It would
be wildly popular with young folks. We can't lose any
more the youth to his nonsense. Yep, I don't know.

(01:04:46):
I don't know what we're gonna do, fellas the Poe.
Do you let our fireworks on New Year's Eve? Only
one person said yes, ninety seven percent. Artist said no,
I do not.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
If I don't watch him professionally, they won't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Be All right, let's get to the last I mean,
the next segment voicemails. Oh, I was about to drop

(01:05:32):
a hot bridge sixteen on that real quick. All right,
let's get to the first voicemail, which is from Ariana.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
She left three.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Hi, Roden, Karen, this is Ariana. I wasn't ever one
to call in very often. But if Rod just keeps
talking about porn on this talk, asked, it's almost like
you guys are kind of asking for it. So, as
one of I'm sure many resident sex workers who listened

(01:06:10):
to y'all and our big fans, I was laughing at
Rod's comment on today's show about one of his saves,
Sarah Jay doing a retweet about how the woman in
question was sick of always doing incest porn and the

(01:06:31):
proliferation of incest porn in the industry right now and
the way she kind of described it made it feel like.

Speaker 11 (01:06:39):
She was insinuating that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Being asked to do that kind of content was beyond
her control in some way, or that was like surprised
upon her once she got to set and as someone
was over a decade of experience in the industry, I
have a few thoughts about this.

Speaker 9 (01:07:00):
Number One.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
I honestly always think it's a bad look. And I
am rod. I looked her up. I already looked her
up on ex, Twitter or whatever it is. She's a
hot white milk, all right, I see. I see the
appeal truly, and I may have myself subscribed to some
of her content. However, I do think it's a bad

(01:07:23):
look when sex workers and kind of particularly people who
are in the industry and active in the industry, act
or speak in a way that is sex negative. I
understand why incest porn is one of the great taboos
that it is.

Speaker 9 (01:07:44):
And I in.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Note all right, I knew this is going to be
a multi message voice mail, but yeah, I absolutely condemn
any kind of actual like incestuous contact between family members,
and at the same time, the underlying truth to all
of these like crazy taboos that we have around sex

(01:08:08):
and fetish and lines that shall not be crossed is
that they all have to do with power dynamics.

Speaker 11 (01:08:16):
If it's almost like addiction.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
It's like if somebody beats someone of an alcoholic and
they beat drinking right a lot of times, that doesn't
mean they beat the addiction. They're always going to have
an addictive aspect to like their uh to, you know,
the way that they think. So they're just going to
replace it with something that's healthier for them. Invest porn,
it's not like rape porn or ravishment porn. Other kinds

(01:08:42):
of taboo often violent kinds of elements or elements involving
a lack of consent. They're more just stand ins for
the taboo itself. Knowing that you're doing something so taboo
and potentially in your mind based on how you grew
up the most taboo thing you can think of of,
It really doesn't actually matter how you consume that or

(01:09:04):
what is actually playing out on that screen. It honestly
is the dynamic is the power dynamic is like the pull.
So anyway, it kind of just made me sad that
Sarah via Olivia Jay it was kind of like being
sex negative in that way. Number two, it's less of

(01:09:25):
a production issue with porn as it is a marketing one.
So big stars like Olivia j Also So fucking Hot
and Sarah Jay, they have agents, So their agents are
tasked with booking them with shoots that they have made
themselves available for, and not shoots that they haven't. So okay,

(01:09:47):
last one, But who doesn't love hearing about porn? So
if you're an agent and you've given them a list
of boundaries, that agent job is to get you as
many shoots as they possibly can within the parameters of
what you said you.

Speaker 12 (01:10:00):
Are available to book.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Four. So, especially with Sarah Jay, she looks like a
hot mom and so and that is like her niche,
that is her cell that, it is her presentation, that
is her brand. So while I definitely understand and can
deeply empathize with not being able to do the exact
kind of.

Speaker 11 (01:10:22):
Content that you wish you could.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Do, I highly doubt she's ever showed up on a
set and they've surprised her with an incest scene. What
is more likely to happen is we're independent contractors, and
while we get paid one long sum for those scenes,
like you know, in any kind of gig, economy. We
have no control over the marketing of that scene afterwards,

(01:10:46):
we have no control over the edits we get no
usually we don't get any residuals, And so were you
could think, Let's say like you're Asian American and you
go into a scene with a white and you think
it's just going to be romantic couple hooks up in
you know, a loft, and then when you see it

(01:11:08):
finally half a year later on the Internet, people are
calling it, you know, like hot Asian Geisha lost porn
and you have no control over that whatsoever, And that
can be super legitimately frustrating. But yeah, I just wanted
to jump into that conversation because I actually felt qualified
to do so. And yeah, I mean red flags for

(01:11:33):
people in the industry. Maybe things are not going to
go in the direction you thought. If you have a
significant age gap between you and your coast dire, especially
if you're an older woman.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Yet in combat. But I think she kind of got
most of her point out. The only thing I would say,
for at least the way I took what Sarah J
was saying, because I don't think she was trying to
speak for the These are my feelings on just like
sex and sex work, because I mean, clearly, if you
follow you know, you say you looked up her YouTube.

(01:12:07):
She's probably one of the most prolific and positive voice
voices in the industry about like sex work, and she's
very big on like I you know, I remember we've
had her on the show several times, and I still
remember an episode where I was being like, oh, yeah,
I know some women say they don't sleep with black

(01:12:28):
men because it'll hurt their like marketing or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
She's like, no, that's because people are racist.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
She's like, it's not about the fans and stuff, because
some of that porn does bigger numbers than the other stuff.
And even if it's someone's taboo, if they'll click on
it and watch it, then the job was done, right.
She's like, no, they don't want to sleep with black
men because they don't want to sleep with black men,
and that's no one's forcing us to do anything on
these sets, right. So I think what she was talking

(01:12:56):
about was what you described in the second voicemail, which
is this post marketing change. Because I've watched I'm a
consumer of her work. I've watched several scenes. It's not
like some of the other stuff where it's actually oriented
around it. And if you look at her like resume
of work, she does a lot of her own work
on her own website. Now she doesn't really work with

(01:13:18):
a lot of companies. But if you look at her
resume of work, even when she's doing like a mill thing,
it's it's not an incess meal thing, it's just a
meal thing. So it'll be like, uh, sex teachers or
some shit like that, and it's like she's playing a
teacher that's fucking a dude that at a school or
some shit, and which is its own fetish and its

(01:13:39):
own taboo. But it's not step whatever, right some porn
you watch it and they're actually saying like you're.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
My you're my step brother whatever. You know, Hey, mom,
will you do such and such?

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
And so I can tell from her cure, you know,
from being a fan. She curates her work pretty strictly
to like to certain scenarios, to certain companies that I'm
sure she's learned to trust over the years. And I
think what Olivia Jay was talking about was, I think
what like you said, the the marketing of stuff. Afterwards,

(01:14:15):
we filmed the scene and then they change into something
or you know, you show up and it's like listen,
you want the money, you want the work, Like this
is what we're doing now, is this type of porn?

Speaker 3 (01:14:28):
And I didn't look at it as.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Speaking out to shame the industry as much as her them.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
I guess this is the way I took it as
a as a layman.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
To me, it was like how sex work is work,
but sometimes because I think we're so afraid of steric
stigma and stereotypes that come about sex work and the
negativity and you know, all the all the you know,
you know, I think because of that, we get very
protective and uptight about it, like ugh h, nobody complain

(01:14:58):
about anything.

Speaker 13 (01:14:59):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
You're like they're gonna come take it away, you know,
like half her fucking government is weaponized against us. They're
banding the sits in Florida and North Carolina. So I
get while we're protective and scared, but also like I
liked it because it felt very humanizing of like the
same way you go to fucking you know, I go
to McDonald's to work and some day and they're like
this this shit is not this is a job. That's

(01:15:22):
what made it that's why it was funny to me.
That's why it stuck out as like she was basically
something that many people see is recreation and a fantasy.

Speaker 7 (01:15:31):
And all this.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
She's like, some days it's just a fucking job, man.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
I gotta come in there and they like, yeah, so
this your step son. It's like, oh, it's one of these.
All right, Well, today is gonna be your work day.
You know, this will be on someone's site somewhere one
day and it'll be stepmom fuck step son. But uh,
you know that's not what happened. And I completely agree
with your first voicemail.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Just in general.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Like I think the taboo of it is comical.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
It's why I laugh about it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
I don't like whenever I see those like, you know,
step siblings, I just laugh because it's so stupid, Like
it's funny. It's it's so over the top, it's funny.
I don't think anyone. I shouldn't say anyone. I don't
know what the fuck people are into, but I don't
think there's a there's not a mainstream market for like
this is some actual incest you're about to watch. No,

(01:16:23):
but that taboo of like this is ooh, this is
a this is a they're not supposed to be having
sex guys between two consending adults and a camera crew
and a microphone and a bunch of other shit that's happening.
It's just off theater and that's why you know it
works or whatever on people, I think, I think we
just like to get squeamish about the idea. But really

(01:16:45):
the squeamishness is almost like how people go to scary
movies and pretend to be scared, but it's like, nigga,
there's not a spirit coming out the screen. Exorcist ends
when the fucking credits roll. So I think that's what
happens with Pouring a lot too. So, like I said,
it's mostly funny to me to watch that kind of
shit because it's because at least the American version is
so over the top. So it's oh, step bro, who

(01:17:08):
said stepbro while you're sucking a dick?

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
No one, No one ever said that, period.

Speaker 7 (01:17:13):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
And I think for me on the outside looking in,
you're just getting a glimpse into like, right to say,
for a lot of people, it's a job, and if
you've been at any job, people have complaints on the job,
like no job is perfect and point is not an
exception to the rule as far as it being like
a physical workplace for people. And sometimes I know, you

(01:17:37):
know if it's joker, but sometimes these little small things
that people bring out can actually help change things. I
guarantee you they might not be the only one that
has issues with this, but when you're larger and you
speak out, sometimes that give other people who actually might
not have the power or authority to kind of like, yeah,
I see that too.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
Also, it's like trends. One day, this won't be the trend.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
I agree right now it is the trend, because my
guess is the trend because that's what everybody clicking on.
But it's really chicking their egg, Like is everybody clicking
on it because it's said step siblings or they clicking
on it because this is their favorite porn star and
they're gonna fuck somebody who knows at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
But yeah, I think I think we'll really get to a.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
We'll really be in a good spot when someone can
complain about doing sex work and it's just they're just
complaining about their job to wait the rest of us.
And that is really what I was trying to get
from that point, but I do take your you know,
your bigger point about it. I'm not trying to, you know,
and I try to be careful on the show about
shaming people's kinks and shit, even the very hardcore stuff

(01:18:44):
that I'm not into. I try not to, you know,
be the person to like completely shit on it because
it's just not for me. And I'm sure that in
the recesses of all of our minds, with our kinks
and taboos, if it was laid bare before the rest
of the world, all of us have a thing that
we'd be like, Eh, I don't want people know that
about me. I agree, but uh yeah, you know, I

(01:19:08):
really I'm more presented to just kind of like laugh
at it rather than to try to take it into
a very serious place, because I know it's you know,
most people don't want to get too serious when the dicks.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
In their hands. No, they do not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
All right, let's see next voicemails for Monday.

Speaker 10 (01:19:29):
Erica, Good morning riting, Karen. This is Erica. I'm so
excited for the live show next few months. Just wanted
to say that I am currently listening to episode thirty
twenty eight Old versus New and I was laughing my asshole. Well,
ro broke out with the rock song you give up
a bad Name. I really think you should cut that

(01:19:52):
and make that a clip. Chef Kiss gave me a
great laugh.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Oh, I'm glad you enjoyed that. That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
Yeah, I never know what jokes for what guys, mm hmmm,
it's funny. Like That's what I like about the feedback show.
I thought the sar J thing was like a oh,
it was cute, and then just move on and then
we have a very serious conversation.

Speaker 13 (01:20:17):
Just drake, what's up Rod and carry it's Dray.

Speaker 11 (01:20:23):
So I went back.

Speaker 13 (01:20:26):
I listened to all the game of thrown freecaps, I
watched Game of Throwns. I had watched Game of Throwns.
I was tired of get left out of the party.
First of all, the slow back y'all really are the
best recap podcasters in the game by far.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Thank you, by far.

Speaker 13 (01:20:46):
I could go back over countless moments throughout the recap.

Speaker 12 (01:20:50):
It was Chess Kiss, it was.

Speaker 13 (01:20:54):
Perfection, even Justice I was there with moments I was like, man,
just don't do Justin gonna watch the show.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
And then he.

Speaker 13 (01:21:02):
Comes all the way from left field, and he's right
about Jamie being a little rape to a boy. It
was beautiful, I call because the finale. I love the
way they wrapped up all the stories.

Speaker 12 (01:21:22):
I didn't really have an issue with the last season,
but it was just that fucking speech.

Speaker 13 (01:21:27):
By tearing it at the end, I say, they scrapped
that shit. We don't need Carrion's soft lullabyn about the
way things should be. I didn't like that instead, but
I would have wanted to see. But like the coach Carter,
you know what I'm saying, subtitles to each character.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 13 (01:21:50):
Just imagine you watching Brayworn comes up and yes, I
am hopeful today.

Speaker 1 (01:21:57):
Just like.

Speaker 13 (01:21:59):
The narts, this by crackings and did you get that?
For each character? Much better for Alium.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
Agreed, he left one. I agree with that shit so hard.
You fixed it. They should have did that. If they
would have did that shit at.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
The end, that would have been so fucking good. Oh
Terry went back to the whorehouse man, I'm hole ful.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
That would have been so good.

Speaker 13 (01:22:29):
I'm back.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
One more thing.

Speaker 13 (01:22:32):
That about gaming, drom Karen, when you was talking about
realizing that you don't have nothing to listen to no
more because you stopped listening to all the political podcasts.
He was speaking a word, and I ended up doing
the same thing you did and went to audio books. Now, Branton,
I've been listening to audio books if I like the
back error and all kinds of other shit. I didn't

(01:22:53):
choose to listen to the text audio books, So judgment,
you know what I'm saying. We just chose it different patht.

Speaker 12 (01:22:59):
But I just you right, I couldn't.

Speaker 13 (01:23:01):
I wasn't interested anymore. I wasn't interested in all this
over assessment of what went wrong and what really happened,
because we all know what happened, Like deal with white
folks do, and it's really that simple, and they gonna
try and over complicate and go over every mistake and

(01:23:22):
every action of a campaign when I'm finding I wasn't
with that. And I also don't really get off when.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
I told you so.

Speaker 13 (01:23:28):
So even now as I'm scrolling I see a little stuff
like people react to Trump saying he wants to apport
thirteen million people. All I could think is, what the
fuck is the news in that? That was the policy platform?

Speaker 5 (01:23:41):
Y'all?

Speaker 13 (01:23:41):
Motherfucker said you voted for him on policy, and then
when he started doing the policies, he always did one
thing about truck he followed through.

Speaker 3 (01:23:48):
Yes, he said he want to do.

Speaker 6 (01:23:49):
That's what the fuck he's gonna do.

Speaker 13 (01:23:50):
Last time he said he gonna ban the muggles.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
What he do, he banned.

Speaker 13 (01:23:52):
Muscles Like, it's just wild to me, But I don't
really I'm good on that. So yeah, I too have
had to find other needs of another thing to do.
I just I honestly belieted most of my social media
ass in general, just because I don't even want to
hear my friends talk about But I love listening y'all
talk about shit, and I love y'all get turned off, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
Lay to peach peace. Appreciate you dracon.

Speaker 4 (01:24:14):
Yeah, I am completely with you, and I'm glad that
I'm not the only one because the audience is not
your funny audience is kind of letting me know that
I'm not the only one that was burnt out. I'm
not the only one that was tired. I'm not the
only one that, like people underestimated the people that literally
gave their all, like literally gave their all was doing

(01:24:36):
this shit. I wasn't just out here just just yacking, y'all.
I was telling people to vote, you know, in real life,
in person, on this podcast vote. I was telling people,
this is serious. Anybody but Trump, like like like this,
I was the person I said I wanted to go low.

Speaker 5 (01:24:58):
Rest of y'all knicks was like, we high, we are.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
High and mighty, and our candidate gotta be perfect and
we refuse to go low. And I'm on the low end,
going no, nigga, be low, be as low as you go.
And like I was like, we're in the bust, you know,
And I realized, Oh, there's very few people that's on
to win the bus train. Most people are not on that.

(01:25:23):
They claim that's what they want. They claim you know that,
you know that, But at the end of the day,
that's not what they were all about. Because because this
is just my personal paying you was by about it,
you'd be like, okay, uh a Biden spark round, fucking
I'm still voting for you, butter okay, uh column.

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
Uh, I'm sorry. I had a blame brain glitch, y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
I was like, I was like, wait a minute, go ahead,
you got it, got it.

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
She was not a perfect candidate.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
A fuck it, I'm voting for like like like, I
was like, it didn't matter if it was HP printer
and y'all know we fucking hate HP printers. Was HP
printer versus Trump, I'm voting for the fucking HP printer
Like I was not, I would still vote for it.
I would subscribed for it and everything. I know it
ain't gonna treat me right, but damn it, it would

(01:26:21):
have been better than Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:26:22):
And so I was serious when I was like, I
want to win.

Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
I've realized a lot of people around me was on
some bullshit, Like they was really on some bullshit. So
I was angry, sad and disappointed, and so you know,
a lot of my feelings are large. So I'm going
to kind of process.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
These big feelings that I have for for a lot
of things, a lot of people around me, Like there
are some people I didn't really respect them.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
Now ex you don't respect them, you know, uh, and
things like that. You know, it's one of these things
where you know, if we ever have a free election again,
I will remember.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
You know, type of thing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
And you kind of felt like you were in the
forest just holling, you know, and people go.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
You a crown wolf, You're a crown Wolf.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
You're a crown Wolf, and you're like, no, Doug, I'm
not crowing wolf. Like there's actually something deeper and more
to this. And so I was literally burnt out, and
so I appreciate the audience for letting me know that
I wasn't the only one that was burnt out.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Yeah, And I mean, sometimes that's the beauty of the show,
as you get this like validation from the audience that
you're not alone in this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:27:35):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
I mean, I think it's just it's obvious that people
are tapped out, Like these numbers for the news and
these numbers for podcasts and stuff going down is not
This is people saying I was engaged until y'all did
something that we can't that's unforgivable in the way that
we can't fight back. And now I have to sit

(01:27:57):
back because when it was time to fight, I was
out here fighting.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
I was telling y'all what we need to do.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
And I don't think the numbers would have gone down
if Kamala had one agreed. I think the numbers would
have stayed engaged because people would have saw her as
a person that can be changed and challenged. They don't
see that in Trump, they don't see that in any
of the GOP leaders. They don't see that in the
GOP media. And so now they're gonna sit back and
go I just need to do what I can do
to survive, and part of that is not letting the

(01:28:23):
anxiety of looking at every single second of news take over,
agreed Nicole.

Speaker 12 (01:28:33):
Thank Rod, Hey, Karen, listening to this show was on
a cruise last week. That's why I'm kind of sick.
But listening to the episode you're talking about, said Blake Lively.
Justin Aldini situation, I was admit, I got got by that,
and I'm an actual and I love Blake Lively, like
I love the show Gossip Girl, like she's my favorite

(01:28:54):
person to put in a rom com movie, like Age
of Adelaide, Like I love her movies. But with all
that stuff coming out at that time, I'm like, dang,
maybe she is a horrible person, maybe she is a bitch.
But of course I don't voice things on the internet
because it doesn't really matter. I just thought it and
moved on. And then I remember there was an article
months months ago when all that was going on, that

(01:29:16):
he hired the same crisis firmans what's his name, Johnny Depp,
which is a Johnny Depp amber her thing. I never
really understood what the hell was going on. I was
just like, he sounds like an asshole. Why are you
guys going after this lady? Because I don't, you know,
I didn't really you know, not really you know, white
people knew it's not my business. But this one, I
was like, dang, And it was a really good movie.

(01:29:38):
Read the book and everything, and I was like, man,
hopefully this gonna be something I can be fixed because
I want to because there's a sequel to the book
and never going to happen. But yeah, like you said, Rod,
sometimes you get got. And now that this is coming out,
a lot of people I seen on TikTok who were
talking crap and saying, oh stuff a daughter. Now they're
all retracting it, they're all trying to change it, and
they're all on the side of pro women this, pro

(01:30:00):
women that. And it also makes me think, why was
everybody hating on Jennifer Lopez so much a couple of
months ago, which I haven't met Jerefer Lopeze person. She
is a bitch, but why was that such a big
thing for a couple of months. But yeah, but anyways,
love the show, guys, keep it going, talk.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
To you later. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 12 (01:30:18):
I think Apparence Nicule Agan. Just for clarification, why I
say that Jereifer Lopez is a bitch, it's because of
my personal interaction with her. I can ask you to
anyone else. Long story short. Back in college, I was
an intern at New Line Cinema and she had to
come in for something and her exact words to us were, no,
she didn't tell us, she had someone come and tell us.

(01:30:38):
The interns, we were not allowed to look in her
direction and not to look at her because she did
not want us oggling her, and they and then they
made us get up from our desk and made us
go sit in a special conference room until she was done,
because she did not want to be bothered with us,
even though as interns we were not allowed to talk
to anyone any celebrity that came through hell, Brad Pitt

(01:31:01):
walked by me one day and I had to act
like I didn't know who the hell it was, so
it wasn't like, you know whatever, because we had to
sign all these things. So that's my personal story. On
Jennifer Lopez. She's very rude and nasty, and that's was
my personal experience with her. That's why I think she's
a bitch, because like why, like ma'am, Like Brad Pitt
was so sweet, and Jennifer Jennifer Aniston also very sweet.

(01:31:21):
But other stories from other days. All right, talk to
you guys later.

Speaker 8 (01:31:24):
Bye.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
Sounds cool, sounds cool.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
The only thing I would say is because I this
is something I never hear people talk about, and I
think it's important.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
What do you.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Think happened to Jennifer Lopez to make her have that
blanket rule?

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
Yeah, because no one ever talks about this. Something happen.
Everyone just goes, what a bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
But something had to have happened, you know, that's not
a rule you start out with. Someone was oggling her,
someone was calling other interns in to be like, look
at that ass.

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
Somebody says something inappropriate touched her.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Something had to happen before she even if she just overreacted,
something had to happen for either her handlers or her
to decide, we gotta stop a lot. We have to
now make you the bitch. We'd rather people think you're
a bitch and you be comfortable than to keep putting

(01:32:23):
you out here and hoping people act right anyway. It's
just something I never hear people bring up, and yeah,
everyone's gonna hear me. Haller like, yeah, but you ain't
had to happen to you, whatever the fuck it is.
I guarantee you, you non famous person that everyone's not
trying to fuck, ain't had the thing happen.

Speaker 10 (01:32:39):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:32:39):
It's how you end up with writers or writers for
for for rock and roll groups or whatever the fuck.
It's like something happened to make the first writer happen.

Speaker 4 (01:32:50):
Yeah, something happened with they showed them, said something wouldn't right,
and they was like, I'm gonna write a list, and
some of them depend on the person they go. Hey,
you know they said they won't that purple eminem's and
for some of them. But I look, if you don't
find an instruction of purple eminems, I know you're not
gonna find instructure that fucking sound set.

Speaker 3 (01:33:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
So I get that it sounds weird and looks weird,
but something happened and you maybe you're a victim of
her overreacting to whatever her trauma was.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
But I'm just saying it's.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Something I've never heard, and I think it should be
brought up every single time someone says something like they
didn't want you to look at Ellen in the eyes?

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
Who fucking did some weird shit to Ellen that made
her be like, hey, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
And then I Michael, My guess is the handlers are
the ones who do the overreacting because you don't really
see the stars be the ones that be like, you know,
j Lo walked up to me and said, are you
look at me my fucking eyes, bitch?

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
And slapped me.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
Is you know, I'm guessing that something happened and she
was shaking, and then they.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Was like, tell everybody don't even look at her.

Speaker 4 (01:33:49):
But yeah, they're like, you ain't gonna fucking my money,
and so that everybody gets punished.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
Yeah, And also, it's just very easy to believe a
woman is a bitch. It's just very easy.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Somebody else got a Jennifer Anderson store somewhere that's like,
Jennifer Aniston isn't nice, she's a bitch because I was
told by third party that she said this, And uh,
so you think she's nice because that didn't happen with you. Well,
she's a bitch to me. It's crazy. It's so many interactions,
and these famous people have to interact with all these
people all the time. We're all registering and clocking it
all the time, and we all have a story about somebody.

Speaker 13 (01:34:21):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
I just try to keep in mind the context of
it and so, but yeah, they could be a bitch.
I don't know. But my point then, I don't. I
just wanted to point that out that who fucking knows
what happens. So somebody fucking grabbed their ass one time
and now everybody's.

Speaker 3 (01:34:38):
Like, what a bitch. She won't even let you in
the room with her, Like who knows?

Speaker 10 (01:34:43):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:34:44):
All right, last thing? Oh no, two more Allego left too.

Speaker 11 (01:34:49):
Happy New Year to you both and to the tvg
WT nation. It's a li I'm listening to your episode
thirty thirty and year discussing the show I Will Destroy
You in relation to the article you guys were reading
about how doctors are saying stop listening to TikTok essentially

(01:35:13):
regarding medicine and health and all that stuff. And I
love that you're mentioning that show. I love that show too.
It is one of my faves. MICHAELA. Cole is amazing,
and I want to mention I'm in school and on
my path to become a therapist, and one of the
things that I get frustrated with is the kind of

(01:35:35):
pop psych. I've been calling it pop psych. I don't
think got's point in that phrase, but I picked up
on it somewhere, and it's all the jargon, like you
use this language to kind of explain away, you know,
bad behavior or turning turning your personal feelings onto somebody

(01:35:58):
else and putting a name to make that person feel guilty,
any of that stuff, just anything to excuse behavior that
is probably requires some sort of nuance and additional help.
And so when you were talking about this medicine thing,
it's a thing that's been on my mind for many

(01:36:20):
years and it comes, you know, it comes together with
the pop psychology stuff. All of it is intertwined, all
of it is related because it's all about physical, mental, emotional.
So I just wanted to bring that up because as
a budding therapist, you know, I want I promote mental

(01:36:41):
health and the fact that we are being more aware
of it and it's becoming more I thought I was
going to turn over a new leaf with the new year.
But anyway, I just wanted to finish my rant and say, yeah,
I'm hearing what you're saying. I'm hearing I've heard something

(01:37:02):
similar to this for a while now about medicine and
not trusting the internet, and yeah, there is a certain
amount of trust you can have. But doctors go to
school for a reason, guys, Right, So even though there's

(01:37:24):
history with misinformation in terms of black people in medicine
and eugenics and all of that stuff, there is also
a movement to change that narrative and change that education.
And so yeah, it's a very interesting line that we're
all straddling and just trying to work through it. That's all.

(01:37:48):
As always, thanks for being in my head even when
you don't know it, and Happy New Year to you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
You too, And.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
Yeah, man, I can't imagine what it's like going to
school right now, like having the knowing that the environment
you're going into is everybody weaponizing these words, and like
some of the worst people have gotten a hold of
these words. I was, you know, like just I talk
to people all the time and you just hear like

(01:38:18):
how people's personal lives have been like really invaded by
this language that people have, and it's very confusing to people.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
I believe, like.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
And because people kind of it's like if they already
have an underlying point where they would agree with somebody,
or they kind of have some whatever isms about them,
that they might have some blind spots to.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
You throw that, you throw them.

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Big words in there. Man, it'll get them, it'll get them.
I remember why.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
Can't I remember his name? But that actor who was
in Who's in Super Bad?

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Right? Uh, Joe Jonah Hill? I remember Jonah Hill couching
his what I thought was very controlling, like rhetoric towards
his girlfriend in therapy speak. And there's so many people
I know who felt who are like, see, he just
set in boundaries. It's like a person's boundary, isn't you
can't have friends. It's not a boundary for them. Like

(01:39:24):
it's like, so if he just so, if he didn't
call it a boundary, but he put the same thing
in writing, y'all would be like, this isn't a controlling
person telling people how to dress, who they can hang
out with, where to go with, time to be home
in a fucking relationship. That's not weird to you. That's
just boundaries. Now, no, he just reframed the same shit

(01:39:44):
that we typically are, like, then, don't be in a
fucking relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
He reframed that into these are my boundaries. You know,
I don't like you looking at other men. That's my boundary.
It's like it was weird, but it works, and.

Speaker 4 (01:39:57):
It's very very frustrating because you need therapy and therapists
and some people have been to therapy and they get
the words. And my thing is this, when it comes
to therapy, it's not about the words. It's about actions.
And the actions are more important than the big, flowery
words that I use, even though the words have a

(01:40:19):
meaning and the purpose and they help explain things. But
at the end of the day, it's the actions of
the individuals that matter more to me. That their actions
are doing something that they can be in a better
space mentally or whatever it may be.

Speaker 3 (01:40:34):
But the internet don't care about your mental health.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
So you know, when you share things on the internet,
they're going to tell you the opposite because they like,
we want you to feel good, we want to praise you,
we want you to be here, want to tell you
there's nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:40:46):
Wrong with you.

Speaker 4 (01:40:48):
And the thing is about the Internet, particularly sharing things
on online. The Internet does not care about you or
your death, so they will praise you until you die
and then talk about how you jumped off and that
they were not responsible for you jumping off to your
death type of thing. So you have to have a
really good understanding of that to realize when it comes

(01:41:09):
to this mental help and therapy stuff, the therapist knows
a lot more about you than we ever will, and
they because you've shared things with them and they have
information that we don't. So the thing about therapy. Therapy
is not a fixile. Therapy does not mean your act,
does not mean the situation is going to go away.

Speaker 5 (01:41:27):
It does not mean your anxiety is going to disappear.

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
Therapy is not a magic peel to make everything in
your life okay.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
It is these.

Speaker 5 (01:41:36):
Things are gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
Here are the tools to navigate the best way you can.
That's all it is. Help you navigate this thing called life,
all right.

Speaker 3 (01:41:49):
Last voicemail in mine, Hey.

Speaker 6 (01:41:53):
Ron Karen leme on first of happy Hope, you guys
are great start.

Speaker 10 (01:42:00):
To your new year.

Speaker 6 (01:42:03):
I'm listening to the episode with Dominic Rivera.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
It's very good.

Speaker 6 (01:42:09):
I'm enjoying the basketball talk because for now I'm into
basketball because my.

Speaker 12 (01:42:14):
Nephew plays basketball and he's.

Speaker 6 (01:42:16):
In high school and I've been very excited about his games.
I'm not sure what position he plays, but he's like
the tallest person on his team. He's like six seven,
the big dude. But he's always like slam dunking it.
I don't know what position would probably do that. I
probably that my sister what position he plays. But I'm

(01:42:37):
enjoying the basketball cock because my dad is always complaining about.

Speaker 12 (01:42:41):
You know, he's like all these boys keep trying.

Speaker 9 (01:42:43):
To make threes. They all of them want to make.

Speaker 6 (01:42:45):
Threes, like they all try to be Steph Curry.

Speaker 12 (01:42:47):
And so I found the.

Speaker 6 (01:42:49):
Conversation very enjoyable. I was very funny. Also, I relate
to him about being an older parent with a very
young child.

Speaker 12 (01:43:01):
We have.

Speaker 6 (01:43:02):
We have a thirteen year old and we have a
one year old now. And just a few days ago,
I put her down for a nap and I usually
try to sneak away. Now I'm gonna smoke her up
with my creaky ask me.

Speaker 7 (01:43:13):
So I was like, I'm just getting up.

Speaker 6 (01:43:14):
I was like I'm like, oh no, and she like
stirred I was like, oh.

Speaker 9 (01:43:19):
Yeah, Oh. I was like, I'm scared, but yes, but
that was it. I love you guys.

Speaker 6 (01:43:28):
Y'all had a great twenty twenty four. Y'all really got
us through it, and God.

Speaker 7 (01:43:35):
Willing we get through these next four years.

Speaker 6 (01:43:38):
But take as many breaks as y'all need. I'm sure
the rest of us will need them.

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
To a right thought.

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
I love y'all you now, Yeah, I think you're right.
Karen probably a center mm hmm.

Speaker 7 (01:43:52):
I love here, Karen.

Speaker 12 (01:43:54):
It's emon.

Speaker 9 (01:43:56):
Just a real quick I was.

Speaker 7 (01:44:00):
Telling my sister and cousins SINCEI y'all had got together
h this, and about how much I was learning from
that from that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
Episode was something oh no Fley.

Speaker 9 (01:44:17):
Oh no, hold of the baby kind of got my hands. Okay, okay,
that messed me up.

Speaker 1 (01:44:25):
Oh, but yes, I.

Speaker 7 (01:44:26):
Was telling them.

Speaker 9 (01:44:27):
I was like, oh, I thought my dad had just
came up with a cute little nickname for my nephew
because they're like he was always cheering.

Speaker 6 (01:44:35):
Like okay, big Man, Oh you do a big man,
get down the corn, big Man.

Speaker 9 (01:44:40):
And I was like, oh, okay, that's so cute, good Man, Like, yeah,
I love big Man Man.

Speaker 7 (01:44:47):
That was the actual positions and.

Speaker 9 (01:44:48):
Man just laughing at me.

Speaker 7 (01:44:50):
They're like, yeah, I keep listening at my.

Speaker 11 (01:44:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:44:55):
I also listened to I don't know, y'all know no.

Speaker 9 (01:44:59):
Yeah, dude, I caught you stop paying.

Speaker 11 (01:45:01):
On ball D.

Speaker 9 (01:45:02):
Okay, but that was all right, y'all have a big weekends.

Speaker 7 (01:45:07):
Love you.

Speaker 9 (01:45:07):
I know I got bye bye.

Speaker 3 (01:45:11):
That's hilarious, she said.

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
I just kept calling him big Man's I thought the
position was big man. He probably will send them baby,
That's probably why I kept calling him big man.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
Yeah, and from balls D sports, we don't really talk
a lot about the X and that was the sports.

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:45:27):
So if your nephew has ever starts dating the ig model,
hit us back.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
My cover might have some things to say. All right.
Last thing is the well not that last thing.

Speaker 2 (01:45:37):
We got physical mail too, but let's get into the
voicemails as well. I mean emails as well. Let's get
into the emails, all right. The first the first email

(01:46:25):
was from James, who says I loved hearing don with y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
Our gun leg champion is back.

Speaker 2 (01:46:31):
I love the blackout tips to say, I hope the
blackout tips to say space.

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
Black folks can't have nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
Fat Joe is wrong hip hop wasn't fifty to fifty
FBA's have an argument, they just need more facts. First
of all, you already done messed up, Fat Joe did,
at least from what I was reading and what we
said on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:46:50):
I don't think anyone said that it was fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
See, these are the slight of hand moves that people
be making in discussions, and if you don't pick up
on it, you end up arguing with them about some
shit that wasn't said. So I have to say, we
ain't say no, fifty fifty, We ain't say it.

Speaker 3 (01:47:08):
Was equal, none of that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
If they did say that, it wasn't said on this
show and we weren't discussing it from that angle. So
you gotta you gotta email Fat Joe on this one
if he's saying that because I'm not. Hip hop started
out as a young black counterculture movement. Every youth group
in the eighties had a music genre to ap pose
that parents. White folk had punk, Black folks had hip hop,
Spanish kids had freestyle. Freestyle is like fast paced synth

(01:47:34):
heavy music. I'm born and raised in the Northeast. When
you saw a take from Tommy Boy records. You knew
your Latin homie was about to put you onto his
or her shit. That's kind of conflating some individual shit
with some with some with some micro shit macro shit.

Speaker 3 (01:47:50):
And I'll get to that in a second. Well, listen
to each other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:47:53):
And it was all good when they were all considered fast,
but hip hop stood to test a time. Now everybody
wants to take credit. The only reason people want to
claim hip hop is because it's Luca dire. It's not
black people's faut. There's no fifty years of freestyle concert
when it's negative and violent.

Speaker 3 (01:48:07):
Is that it's that black music.

Speaker 2 (01:48:10):
When millions are being made and colleges have hip hop class,
then it belongs to everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:48:14):
Thank you, Roder, careful letting me vent. I just wish
people tell the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:48:17):
I don't know who the people are there saying it
belongs to everyone. I don't think those are the arguments
that are being had. I think the pettyass argument Fat
Joe is having with people like Lord Jamar and is
this thing what Fat Joe is? I think, and this
is why I said let them fight. I don't think
there's a right person in this argument. I think both

(01:48:37):
are different versions of wrong. But that's why fat Joe
is trolling with Chris Rock saying shit like when I
think of free black men, I think of fat motherfucking Joe.
There's no way you listen to that and took it serious.
I'm a little bit disappointed that we had such fun
talking about it and we're clearly making fun of how

(01:48:58):
silly and stupid this thing was become me and you
wrote in with this serious ass like I need to
vent about the black man right to because we like,
now you've changed the tenor of the discussion is something
that I prefer not to get into just because it
now we have to get serious about something that we
could have lightheartedly laughed at in agreement and been like,

(01:49:19):
fat Joe is out of his mind.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
But so are the.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
FBA niggas that hate gay people, hate women, and hate
black people that aren't from America, which is a huge problem,
by the way, and why you shouldn't be siding with
them anyway, talking about they got their facts wrong. What
about the hip hop pioneers who are Afro Latino? What

(01:49:43):
about the hip hop pioneers who are Afro Caribbean, And
there are hip hop pioneers who are African band bada
and shit like that. So I don't I think we
should stop doing this what we are doing now, you
can just yeah, I just google real quick. Grandmaster Flash

(01:50:04):
is Beijing uh DJ Cool Hurt Jamaican immigrant African Banbata
Jamaican and Beijing descent DJ Disco Whiz Puerto Rican and
Cuban descent. Like I don't, I just don't get while
we're doing this, what is fruitful about this?

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
What is to be gained from this?

Speaker 2 (01:50:23):
And especially because all this shit started because Fat Joe
basically was like this maga shit is whack and y'all
brothers need to get off of that, and people like
Tarika Na Sheet and these others they paler around with
that kind of conservative rhetoric. A former pimp hustler is like, yeah,
you know, I went from making the maga in and
and married to a non black woman. But we're supposed

(01:50:46):
to sit up here and go up for that shit.
And I so I'm We're not the podcast to ever
go up for those niggas. And I'm also not the
podcast to really give a fuck about Fat Joe in
that way because I'm not from that area and I
don't understand how y'all be giving the N word pass
out up there. That seemed like a conversation y'all need

(01:51:07):
to have together. You say you from the northeast, whyle
y'all didn't figure that shit.

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
Out, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
Like you should have been writing in then back back
in the day to whatever the box was or whatever.
But I think when you're talking to generalities, like you
go from saying like it wasn't fifty to fifty who
know which? No one said to this, like and all
the Latin people is only listening to this kind of music.
I know that's not true. There was also some hip

(01:51:34):
hop niggas that was Latin or Latino or whatever. So
it's just I don't know. It just seemed like a
big waste of time. I tried to reply to him
and said, come on, man, this is can ridiculous. He said,
thanks for your apply. You don't have to address anything
rid protect your business folk. Now, this is why shout

(01:51:54):
out to I'm not gonna get upset with you back,
but I know what you're trying to do when you
like you acting like it's some ulterior motive. To me,
just flat out disagreeing with you. Protect my business, my guy.
We own this business. It's our business. It's nothing to

(01:52:16):
protect it from. No one's gonna shut us down for
being like there were some Latino people that were in
hip hop, and no one's gonna shut us down if
we if we on one hundred percent agree with you
and said what you said, there would also be zero
people shutting us down. We was like, hip hop is
blacks only get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:52:35):
If you ain't from America, I don't want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
Nothing like, there's nothing we're afraid of. We're telling the
truth as we see it as well, just like you
think you're telling us the truth. White folks don't want
anyone non white around groups for using anti blackness as
a tool to assimilate and garner favor.

Speaker 3 (01:52:52):
You know this my bad.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
Other minority skin folk and beyond reality didn't fool with
us black folk up nor if if you need numbers,
just say thirty percent see a fellow human. Seventy percent
think with lazy nuts MutS who don't deserve a Social
Security number.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
They just had to live next to us. This is
a scene. There's a scene, and do the right thing.
About this piece. Yeah, you just on a ramp, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:53:11):
Yeah, I said, yeah, this sounds like a conversation not
for us, That's what I said.

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
Yeah, it's like you.

Speaker 4 (01:53:17):
It's like you've been arguing with other people and you've
boughked that over here to us.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
Yeah, And he said, my argument is not with you, Rod,
It's what I said before. It is against Fat Joe.
Well you wrote us, right, Fat Joe. We didn't say
these things.

Speaker 5 (01:53:31):
You wrote us, at least I don't think we did.

Speaker 2 (01:53:33):
And this is like a thing that happens all the
time in podcasting and beyond. People have a argument that's
going with a complete other entity, they bring it to
us and they bring us in halfway through.

Speaker 3 (01:53:45):
You didn't set this up.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
It's like, hey guys, you guys didn't even really talk
about this, but here's my feelings. You set this up.
Like I listen to y'all's conversation. Let me tell you something,
and I'm like that we talk about and it is so, yeah,
I don't really care that much, which is funny because this,
you know, I get that y'all care about shitting and
that's what this this platform is for. It's what the

(01:54:07):
feedback is for But y'all gotta understand, like, when we
bring up something kind of joking and we're like, isn't
this like a funny way to.

Speaker 3 (01:54:15):
A perspective to look at it?

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
You can choose to leave it there, or we can
have to get into some shit like this where it's like,
this isn't really that fun for anybody. But yeah, I
would never erase black people from hip hop. It's the
only genre of music I really grew up listening to anyway,
not that I don't listen to anything else, but it's
the one that, if I had to claim it, that's

(01:54:39):
the one I would claim as my favorite and the
one I know the most about. But yeah, this fact
Joe FBA thing is a Facebook.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
Mean, it's too uneas thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
Yeah, it's two very unserious actors and you having picked
the side, it's just some s that you need to
deal with internally, because I'm not I think both of
these motherfuckers have extremely flawed views on race and a
bunch of shit, and I would not champion. I wouldn't
champion any of them, but I will watch them fight
and laugh about it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
Brandy Wright sing Hi Rider Carroll.

Speaker 2 (01:55:16):
Let me start by saying I'm a huge fan of
Love all your podcasts you guys put out on the
main show and behind the Paywild episodes.

Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
I appreciate how hard.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
You both work and that you give us incredible and
thoughtful content even through the holidays.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
This episode. This email is a question for Karen on Snap.

Speaker 5 (01:55:30):
Okay, I got a question.

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
I just started playing video games and all I've been
playing and loving is Stardoo Valley. I wanted to know
if you have other switch recommend switch game recommendations for
people someone that loves these kind of games. Thank you
and for your help and suggestions. Happy New Year to
you both.

Speaker 3 (01:55:49):
Oh that's a good fun. Ooh, it depends on what
you like. I like, she said, Stardu Valley.

Speaker 5 (01:56:00):
Think of things around that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:01):
Bear with the Bear with the Breakfast, Yeah, Bear with Breakfast. No,
that's not the name of it. You know the name.

Speaker 4 (01:56:06):
Yeah, And that's and that's why I said, hold on,
give me you can go on. I need to pull
it up real quick so I can give you the
correct names. I'm sorry, I want to give you the
right names too, okay, because I wasn't prepared.

Speaker 2 (01:56:16):
Baby, Okay, I think it's called Bear and Breakfast. It's
sad that I know this and Karen has to go
look it up. She spends literally hours and hours playing
these games.

Speaker 3 (01:56:24):
On her switch.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
But Bear and Breakfast is definitely one of these management
games where you're a bear and it's from twenty twenty two.
You're a bear that goes to the woods and you
create your own bed and breakfast and ship, and you
gotta like manage these guests and people that.

Speaker 5 (01:56:41):
Yes, that ship is so much fun.

Speaker 2 (01:56:45):
Yeah, very stardoo Valley. Like I don't know if Farm
Together is on a switch.

Speaker 3 (01:56:52):
I don't know if that's on switchy.

Speaker 2 (01:56:54):
Yeah, I don't think it is. Let me see, Uh,
Farm Together? Is that on switch?

Speaker 7 (01:57:03):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:57:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
I don't I just see people asking should they get it?
Review Farm Together?

Speaker 3 (01:57:10):
Switch? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
If if Farm Together is on switch, you should get Oh,
I guess it is.

Speaker 3 (01:57:16):
Yes, it's on Nintendo switch. Okay, I didn't know if
that one was on switch. Farm Together, if you like
Started Valley is a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:57:21):
Yes, that that one's fun too.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
What about my time at Porsche? Why why do I
know these better than you? What is going on over there?
I'm pulling these off the top of my head. All right,
Karen Good, gotta go look up her Nintendo switch account.

Speaker 4 (01:57:35):
Yes, because some of these games across across the board,
and in some of these games A specifically for Nintendo,
so I wanted to be sure I gave her a
specific time.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
I know I'm giving her Nintendo games off the top
of my head, and I didn't play them.

Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
But I'm just saying, okay, because some of these games
I played on other platforms. I could run her down
a list of games, but I wasn't sure if they
would all.

Speaker 3 (01:57:56):
Be on this. It's better than the dead air of
you looking it up minutes. I'm just trying to make
a good podcast here. I'm trying to stall. I try
to be fair farm. Fair farm is a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
Fair farm, yes, Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:58:15):
Isn't it fairy farm?

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
It's fair farm like f a I are faith farm,
f ae thank you arm Okay, I'll do the fact
check and keep.

Speaker 5 (01:58:25):
Going, thank you, thank you f Ae farm.

Speaker 4 (01:58:28):
Uh they yes, Uh, Coral Island. I know that that's
kind of I know that if they made it across
the platforms of multiple platforms now and May, I may
not don't switch, but I know it's multiple platforms like
like these are some of my my uh personal favorite
games that I really really love to play.

Speaker 5 (01:58:47):
Uh yeah, if you're talking about that genre.

Speaker 4 (01:58:51):
I have games that I play for other genres, but yeah,
those are the ones with that particular genre.

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
There you go, Brady. I hope we helped. I hope
we helped.

Speaker 5 (01:58:59):
I'm sorry I was because I was not prepared.

Speaker 2 (01:59:01):
I know you wrote it just to Karen, but I
hope that next time you'll say, Rod, thank you as well,
because you saved this. Pinky says, Hey, Rod and Karen,
my husband and I listening love to and love your show.
While listening, I heard that Karen has recently discovered adult
audio books. I'm an advanced smut reader, so I don't
know if you're ready for my book, Rex, but I

(01:59:23):
do have a narrator recommendation. Jacob Morgan, in my opinion,
is the best. I have a hard time listening to
smut audio because the narrative voice can totally kill the
vibe for me.

Speaker 3 (01:59:32):
But I will listen to that man read a grocery list.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
One of my favorite books he has narrated is Priest
by Sierra Simone.

Speaker 3 (01:59:40):
Remember to always check your trigger warnings. Again.

Speaker 2 (01:59:42):
I'm an advanced smut reader, so my preference and get
a little dark and weird. We're not judging. Once again,
same thing I said about porn. I think far too
much is done in people trying to speak out of
their revulsion about certain topics in order to try to
like signal to everybody they're a good person.

Speaker 3 (02:00:00):
I'm gonna be real with you.

Speaker 2 (02:00:01):
Guys, I wasn't assuming anyone was okay with violating anyone's
bodies and autonomy and consent. I actually don't need you
to let me know, like I if I was assuming
that of you, then you might want to clear it up.
But like, it's not like if if someone's like, listen,

(02:00:25):
I'll be watching up. I'll be listening these but books
and sometimes the scenes get a little rapie. I know
it's a book. None of this happened. I'm okay, I'm okay, Okay,
everybody's fine. I don't think it's Jeffrey Dahmer. It's just fiction.
And I do understand that on the Internet you have
to be very careful because people are tipped very often

(02:00:47):
taking things in the meanest way out of context.

Speaker 3 (02:00:51):
But you don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 2 (02:00:53):
Writing into the blackout tips you can like whatever kind
of smut, and I know it gets dark and weird.

Speaker 3 (02:00:58):
I remember a long time ago as a kid, I.

Speaker 2 (02:01:01):
Was reading one of my my mom had some books
and one of them was like a smart book, and
I forget the name of it, I really, but I
was just like thirteen, fourteen or whatever, and one of
the initial scenes was like the serial killer came in
and sexually.

Speaker 3 (02:01:17):
Assaulted this woman. Oh yeah, yeah, it was shocking.

Speaker 2 (02:01:21):
And but it was not written in the way like
you would think like an actual sexual assault crime would happen.

Speaker 3 (02:01:30):
It was like erotic, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:01:32):
Like it was like the description wasn't like, you know,
how you would describe some shit if you saw it
on Law and Order SVU. It was like it was
like they and I was, you know, I was, I
was fourteen, I hadn't had sex yet.

Speaker 3 (02:01:45):
I was just like, Okay, this is confusing. Why is
this in this book?

Speaker 2 (02:01:51):
Why isn't this the end of the book, Like this
crime has been committed. They wrote more shit after this,
yes they did. It was more too, buddy, But yeah,
so it's just people have different fantasies and shit. It's
nothing it's fine. It's it's not like you're hurting anyone anyway.

Speaker 3 (02:02:07):
Please keep us.

Speaker 2 (02:02:08):
Fellow lovers of porn books and audiobooks posted on your journey.
Do I smell a possible new segment broad Love you guys,
happy reading listening, Brittany Curvery Girl.

Speaker 4 (02:02:18):
Summer is what I'm reading right now, and it is
actually really really good and.

Speaker 5 (02:02:24):
It's black, like you know, it's like black black, and.

Speaker 4 (02:02:28):
So I actually really enjoy it because you they talk
about dix and not cocks, so you know, I really
just I know that's the slight change, but I like
the descriptions. Ain't nothing wrong with a good good cock,
don't get me wrong. But I'm black, so I like
to I like that switch there, and I talk about

(02:02:49):
black scenarios and things that happen like in Black Households.

Speaker 3 (02:02:52):
So before you know it, I.

Speaker 4 (02:02:53):
Was listening, but I was fussing, you know, and cheering
all kinds of shit out because I could could have
related because I was like, oh, this is like black black,
like shit that happened in like Black Households, people showing
their asses and shit. I was like, girl, I am
hip fo it, and so I'm having a blast reading
that one, like I said, I'm I'm across the board

(02:03:14):
when it comes to like, I'm open to all of it.
But I have really been enjoying that one right now.

Speaker 2 (02:03:22):
Uh the next one five part rant by Aaron who
says high Ride love your episode.

Speaker 3 (02:03:27):
The media is the medium.

Speaker 2 (02:03:28):
It reminded me of this little rant I wrote a
couple months ago during the election season. Thought i'd share
cases interesting and validating one. If you just started paying
attention to politics five seconds ago, maybe do a lot
of listening, very little opening opening until you are educated
enough to be qualified to expression political opinions too. If
you are white and you haven't done it extensive deep
diving the systemic racism in America, then just assume you

(02:03:49):
don't know why race relations auret the way they are
between black people and white people in this country and
navigated accordingly.

Speaker 3 (02:03:54):
Three.

Speaker 2 (02:03:55):
If you think that everything the mainstream media, consensus, reality,
and or conventional wisdom on any given the topic is
automatically false just because so many people agree, you are
using severely flawed logic. For instance, looking both ways for
across the street to something we all agree.

Speaker 3 (02:04:07):
Is very beneficial.

Speaker 2 (02:04:08):
When I see people rejecting all of Western medicine, all
of what CNN is important, et cetera. I just see
a total lack of wisdom, critical thing and skills and discernment.

Speaker 3 (02:04:16):
And it's not cute. Yeah, And I think what's so
interesting is that.

Speaker 2 (02:04:22):
On the extreme of that it is it is just
as closed minded as a claim mainstream people are.

Speaker 3 (02:04:30):
When you do the like, well anything mainstream clearly is
some bullshit.

Speaker 2 (02:04:34):
It's like, no, that's well, that's bullshit, and you're just
you're just the other side of that of that coin
as opposed to like, some of it probably is bullshit,
some of it's not. You know, I don't think most
of us go into this with our eyes close right.
Yesterday Surgeon General puts out something and says, hey, alcohol
is like the third leading cause of cancer, even if

(02:04:56):
you're just doing a drink a day or whatever the fuck.
Like it's into what they say, drink a day, keep
two drinks a day, keep a.

Speaker 3 (02:05:02):
Doctor way or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:05:03):
It's like, no, it's actually you shouldn't be drinking that much.
There's gonna be some people out there that's like, wow,
the medical industry lying again. There's gonna be some people
finally telling the truth. But most of us understand that,
like a huge influence on not seeing alcohol as a
negative is that alcohol makes a lot of money for
a lot of people in America, yep, and they have

(02:05:26):
political influence and shit like that. So we can see
all of that and navigate accordingly. That this thing that
probably poisons us every time we drink it, that's kind
of that's the effects of getting drunk, is you're poisoning.

Speaker 3 (02:05:39):
Your body a little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:05:40):
This thing is probably not good for you, even in moderation,
and probably to add some deletarious effects over time.

Speaker 3 (02:05:48):
That being said, you're gonna die anyway. So all like, like,
it's not surprising.

Speaker 2 (02:05:56):
We all are adults and we have to make our
own fucking decisions on how we're gonna live of life.
And it's all risky and up in the air, you know.
But it is funny when people get so rigid one
way or other, because I'm like, fam, I always.

Speaker 3 (02:06:10):
Am willing to at least consider some.

Speaker 2 (02:06:13):
Shit, even if I throw even if I throw it out,
you know what I'm saying, Like, if what motherfucker's like,
the vaccines is killing people, I'm like, well, let's see
what the research says. It's like, it's not all right,
I'm done. You know, hey, I gave you a shot, though,
you know what's your proof?

Speaker 5 (02:06:29):
A kid?

Speaker 3 (02:06:30):
Uh got hives and passed out one time? Like did
they die? Well?

Speaker 2 (02:06:35):
No, okay, well one time it was a nurse and
she died And I'm like, you mean the nurse they
debunked and she came out and said, y'all lied on
her and docked her.

Speaker 3 (02:06:45):
Okay, all right, all right, two for two ride, I
see uh.

Speaker 2 (02:06:48):
Anyway, For one thing, I realize that people are generally
not generally not that well organized. If the entire world
with the stage of global pandemic, do you know how
meany doctor, scientists, healthcare executive's other healthcare right that would
have to be in on it? Do you realize how
ineffective and disorganize our government is. Do you realize do
you really think they will be able to capable pulling
something like this off?

Speaker 3 (02:07:08):
Hell?

Speaker 2 (02:07:09):
No.

Speaker 3 (02:07:10):
Five.

Speaker 2 (02:07:10):
If someone tells you that you sound like conspiracy theorists,
that is not a compliment. I've seen some of you
trying to wear that term like a badge of honor,
defining it as something ridiculous, like people who everyone eventually
realized they were actually right. This is just more delusions,
trust me. Yeah, eron you on point as usual.

Speaker 3 (02:07:27):
And Aaron is a pretty open minded person. We follow
each other on social media.

Speaker 2 (02:07:31):
I know she's talked about, like, you know, different health
alternatives and stuff because.

Speaker 3 (02:07:37):
I think she deals with like I forget what it.

Speaker 2 (02:07:41):
It's like either migraines or like chronic pain and stuff,
kind of like our friend Bacon deals with that. And
you know, you have to get creative when you're dealing
with something that the medical industry hasn't figured out yet
doesn't know how to solve.

Speaker 3 (02:07:54):
Does you have a magical.

Speaker 2 (02:07:55):
Peel or whatever, or you know whatever, or the stuff
they provide you has effects that you don't want to
deal with that.

Speaker 3 (02:08:04):
It takes a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:08:05):
And so I don't think like Aaron's not some closed
minded person or some like you know, medicine has it
all right, she'sus a person that's like, listen, the conspiracy
rabbit hole shit. It will fuck you up, and you
have to be careful of just making that your her
entire personality, right, John writ saying, Hey, Rod, Karen, Happy

(02:08:26):
New Year. Writer.

Speaker 3 (02:08:27):
Karen really loved a holiday.

Speaker 2 (02:08:28):
Car y'all out did yourselves at the hornets love and
the fancy color printing.

Speaker 3 (02:08:31):
Karen Great minds, think alike.

Speaker 2 (02:08:33):
I too, just started reading romance novels for the exact
same reason. I needed something to take my mind off
the world and something less heavy than historical fiction and
nonfiction I usually read, So why not make it smuty.
I had tried a couple of erodical stories here and there,
but most of the ones written by men were so
filled with toxic masculinity, misogyny, and mailgaze bullshit that I
figured it would constantly bug me. So I decided to

(02:08:54):
check out novels written by women centered around female men characters.
The writing isn't always super literary quality, but it's fun.
It's steamy cotton candy for the brain, which is just
what I need. If you want to get a little
extra spicy, you might want to check out Reverse Hair
Wychu's novels.

Speaker 3 (02:09:09):
These are books where a girl woman has multiple.

Speaker 2 (02:09:11):
Usually male love interests and are totally unapologetic about it
and getting all kinds of freaky fun. Sometimes they be
fucking demons, goes, aliens, werewolves, you name it. Through the
fantasy stuff. This has bit too out there for me,
but to each their own. I read physical books instead
of audio, so I don't have to worry about the
kind of embarrassing moment you have with sex suddenly becoming
broadcasts on the speaker. But I do have to be

(02:09:33):
careful with bringing the books in public store public since
the covers usually have petite girls surrounded by a bunch
of shirtless hue Jackman looking.

Speaker 3 (02:09:40):
Dudes on the cover, invest in some book covers.

Speaker 2 (02:09:43):
I usually carry books with me when I'm running errands
in case I get stuck waiting and no one pays
any attention to them. So, of course, the one time
I bring a romance novel to my coffee shop, the
cute girl behind the counters.

Speaker 3 (02:09:53):
Like, oh, what are you reading? Lol?

Speaker 2 (02:09:55):
The cover wasn't even anything steamy, but I was still busted.
I told them I it was a silly, smutty romance
now would escape from all the bullshit in the world,
and they just laughed the like, yeah, we get it.

Speaker 3 (02:10:06):
Hope you guys have a great holiday break, John, Yay.

Speaker 4 (02:10:09):
I'm glad other people are finding, you know, their semi
escapisms and things like that. And like I said, not
only did I find out that I like Christmas sweaters,
I found out there's other sm smut readers in audio
book listeners something audience.

Speaker 3 (02:10:23):
I man didn't get to be that big of an
industry because people weren't listening, Ain't That's truth?

Speaker 2 (02:10:28):
Cassie Wrights in Hey Rod and Karen, First, thank you
for the Christmas card. I love stationary, especially love finding
African American stationary. Unfortunately, twenty twenty four took a lot
out of me, and for the first time in years,
I didn't send anything, Sorry Karen, but I was a
bit sad about it. But the cars I received, including yours,
cheered me up. Regardless distrust of expertise, I got a
front row view of social media send it's just trust

(02:10:50):
years ago, so I'm not surprised. I had a friend
became chronically ill during medical school.

Speaker 3 (02:10:54):
She had horrible experiences with medical staff.

Speaker 2 (02:10:56):
I didn't know what I was witnessing then, but she
fell into some Internet spaces that led her to doctor Sebbe.
This was in the twenty ten, so I think message
boards and early Facebook group so I'm talking super strict guys,
alkaline water filter systems, expensive vitamins for pyramid schemes ran
by Christian nationalist country companies retreats, etcetera. She often denied
advice from her doctors in favor of natural remedies.

Speaker 3 (02:11:19):
By the time she graduated moved.

Speaker 2 (02:11:20):
From her for a medical program, she had an unhealthy
mistrust of Western medicine for herself, even though she had
the medical knowledge, the influencers that preyed on her experiences
and fear. What's worse is that several of her loved ones,
including me, could not convince her. She got to a
point of desperation with the Honduras to that doctor Seve
model treatment place, her father had to go down and

(02:11:41):
bring her.

Speaker 3 (02:11:41):
Bring back her ashes. Wow. So yes, it has killed people.
I see people push doctor.

Speaker 2 (02:11:48):
Sebe methods in the same way now. They will even
tell people who critique their experience with doctor Sebe treatments
with you can't really have the experience until you go
to Honduras.

Speaker 3 (02:11:58):
It makes me nauseous screen that my.

Speaker 2 (02:12:00):
Friend most likely dieded the hands of scammers pretend to
be natural health advocates. The Internet people weren't at her memorial.
They don't care that we have one less black woman
doctor in our community. They won't ever talk about her.
And when they take people's money on a lighter note.
Since Karen is listening to romance, I like to recommend
to narrators Wesley Chavon and Jacoby DM They narrate lots

(02:12:25):
of black romance books and they do that characters.

Speaker 3 (02:12:28):
Justice, enjoy your book journey. Sorry for the left, but
I hope you all enjoy your weekend cast. Always. Thank you, Cass,
And I'm sorry about your friend. That's very sad and
you hate you hate to hear it.

Speaker 2 (02:12:41):
So all right, moving on to something a little bit
less depressing.

Speaker 3 (02:12:45):
Let's open up some mail.

Speaker 2 (02:12:46):
Let's do it, all right, we got some got some
mail in the building. Okay, you know how to mail
us the cars The blackoutips dot com slash about is
where you will find our mailing address if you want
to mail us things. Our Amazon wish list is in
the show notes of all our episodes. If you want
to wish list us a gift or something, you know,

(02:13:07):
send it to us.

Speaker 3 (02:13:08):
We're here and we will take them and we appreciate them.

Speaker 2 (02:13:11):
Okay, all right, this card the front. It looks like
a chicken and it says Merry Christmas. Can you let
me just look at it? Says Karen and riding Karen mustard.
Somebody gotta do it. Thanks for a year of your warrenth,

(02:13:32):
kindness and friendship. Happy Holidays, Shanna, Oh thanks Yeah. This
is from Shannon that be on the be on the
nerd off with us sometimes. Thank you. Let's see this
one is uh tis the season and it's got a
bunch of beautiful polar bears and animals and all this

(02:13:53):
stuff like look at that uh and they and it's
in Boston too, And when you open it up, it says,
what makes the holidays a wonderful sending wishes like these
special people like you Marry Christmas from Adam, Thank.

Speaker 3 (02:14:10):
You, we appreciate this.

Speaker 4 (02:14:12):
This good.

Speaker 3 (02:14:15):
Make sure I close that boom.

Speaker 2 (02:14:17):
And then the last on is from Jordan and April.
It says, oh and it's got Mickey Mouse. Shout out
to Disney on it, Mickey and Mini on there.

Speaker 3 (02:14:31):
Old school.

Speaker 2 (02:14:33):
It says, you're Mary bright and full of chair. You
topp my nice list every year.

Speaker 3 (02:14:40):
Thank you for having.

Speaker 2 (02:14:41):
A fun, interesting and form of uplifting inspiring podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:14:44):
You created a masterpiece. Jordan in April. Thank you Jordan
and April. We appreciate y'all do. And the last thing
is an actual package that we got.

Speaker 2 (02:14:54):
I wouldn't check the mail this morning to see like, okay,
we got anything in there? And there's like, yeah, god,
our package. I said, okay, cool. Then he told me
who it was from. He was like, it's from SO
and so. I was like, hey, man, don't be reading.

Speaker 3 (02:15:07):
My mail.

Speaker 2 (02:15:10):
Sending me the fucking package. What does it matter to you.
You don't know these people strangers.

Speaker 3 (02:15:17):
It's like, yes, from SO and so, Like I want
to find that out when I get home.

Speaker 2 (02:15:22):
All right, it says fragile. So I'm trying to be
careful opening this thing. Okay, all right, let's see here.
Let's read the card first, because that's what classy people do. Okay,
I'm being mindful demurror.

Speaker 3 (02:15:39):
Yes, okay, this is just some like.

Speaker 2 (02:15:43):
Fancy fancy, fancy fancy Hello.

Speaker 3 (02:15:48):
It says hello if you look at it, it's abstract.

Speaker 2 (02:15:51):
And inside is from uh Niche who says dear Karen
or dear Karen and Rod want it. I wanted to
get you something I picked up for you on my
safari trip. The cloth is from Zimbabwe, the bracelet is
from Botswana, and the red soil from Nami from Namib

(02:16:16):
of Namibia desert in oh, from the MiB Desert in Namibia,
driving between destinations, I got my tour guide. I don't
know how to say this name because it's in cursive.
I want to say, Odin.

Speaker 3 (02:16:29):
On to the show. Okay, okay, I win.

Speaker 2 (02:16:31):
If it is spelled right, maybe it's a little one. Anyway,
thank you for listening. Y'all had us in tears over
that Kendrick Drake mess. That's dope anyhow. Sorry I hadn't
sent these sooner. Happy holidays to you and the family.

Speaker 3 (02:16:46):
Niche. First of all, you don't need to ever be sorry.
We appreciate you. Sorry. I just want to make sure
that I said it's from the right person or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:17:00):
Out in the cold, I said, Niche, thank you to
call the Coles. So let me open this up and
see what we.

Speaker 3 (02:17:07):
Got in here.

Speaker 2 (02:17:08):
This was like a it feels like a bottle or
something inside of this wrapping paper.

Speaker 3 (02:17:14):
Oh it is. It's a bottle of this. This this soil. Oh,
we don't put that on display. Dirt just what I needed.
Mm hmmm, you know what. I love some dirt. Okay,
I'm just the dirt of our people.

Speaker 2 (02:17:30):
I'm gonna take something and put it in my hands.
Like the gladiator before fighting people.

Speaker 3 (02:17:36):
What you're fighting? Whoever got whoever?

Speaker 5 (02:17:38):
Want to talk some ship for the ancestors.

Speaker 2 (02:17:40):
People that write up here talking about FBA versus Fat Joe.
I'm gonna put some dirt on my head. I'm gonna
let y'all know what's up. And then these are the
bracelets or I guess too, Like is it two bracelets?

Speaker 3 (02:17:52):
It's one bracelet.

Speaker 2 (02:17:54):
Oh, but it's a big bracelet and it must wrap
around several times. Okay, so even I could put it
on my arm. Okay, cool, because you know, normally bracelet.
You gotta have to be a little arm. Motherfucker that
the rock of bracelet.

Speaker 5 (02:18:09):
And you probably make it where it goes like around it.

Speaker 3 (02:18:12):
Yeah, you gotta wrap it.

Speaker 2 (02:18:13):
Yeah, I put this on at some point, but because
I got my watch all but I see how it
could work.

Speaker 3 (02:18:20):
I see how it could works.

Speaker 2 (02:18:22):
Okay, these holes ain't gonna know what hit him when
I pull up on this, when they see me up
in the motherfucker Trader Joe's, they.

Speaker 3 (02:18:32):
Gonna be like that. I ain't gonna know what to
do with you must I got that from Africa, Okay.
And then here's the cloud.

Speaker 2 (02:18:41):
Oh yeah, it's very beautiful and it's soft feeling too.

Speaker 3 (02:18:46):
Here you go, thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:18:48):
Oh this is beautiful baby, So thank you, thank you,
thank you. Everybody will appreciate you. That's it for the
day's episode. We'll be back throughout the week and yeah,
until next time, I love you, I love you too.

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