3039: Lonely Flowers

Rod and Karen are joined by comedian Roy Wood Jr to discuss his latest stand up special “Lonely Flowers.” They discuss working out his latest album, touring, his new CNN tv show, booking the show, Arsenio saved your career, acting vs stand up, performing for Trump and the TikTok ban.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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and Karen are hot.

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Speaker 3 (00:37):
And We're not alone today, we are not.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Today is a very special episode. We got a friend
of the show guest. Today's guest is an actor, podcaster, comedian,
just a TV show host, a man of just many overalls.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Okay, prank caller, but don't ask him about that. It's
Roy Wood Junior. What's going on man? His latest stand up.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Special is Lonely Flowers, is available on Hulu right.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Now, number seven, number seven behind General Hospital. I'm coming
for your General hospital.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Come on, General Hospital.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
Watch your back, Okay, watch your back.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Hey, Well congrats man, We we actually watched it.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Last night, and it's it's phenomenal, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's tight. It's a it's a straight up hour number one.
Which is interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Because with the credits baby yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
And we watched it all the way through the credits,
it's like you've reward us for watching through the end,
which I appreciate. Yes, And then what I liked about
this one is it is such a cohesive idea, like
from like the through line from the first joke to
the last joke has an overarching theme about just society
and how people are fractured. But in ways, in some

(01:57):
ways that makes us almost more together than not. We
just don't recognize it anymore. And still was extremely funny, man.
I mean, just hats off to you, man. It was
amazing special.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
I appreciate it. Man. I started and ended the special
with the same sentence, And that is one thing I'm
stupidly proud of. And I don't know why, just in
terms of you know, it's like gymnastics, man, you want
to do something to get you know, like that seven
point three degree of difficulty. Yes, I tell you who

(02:29):
do it? Though it is Ali Sadik that brother had,
I don't know if it was Domino effect two or three.
I think it was two, where he starts the show
with a premise and then goes, but first, let me
tell you this, and that's fifty five minutes of other shit.
Right then he delivers the joke that he set up

(02:52):
at the top of the show. I was like, God damn, yeah, motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
That's that's beastly. That's a magician right there.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Man, how long did you work this out on the
road before filming a special.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
About a year little low, a little under. I quit
Daily Show that October. We take this in September. I
had about half of the jokes in the clip already
by the time I quit Daily Show. But then the
more I started writing on it, because you know, you
quit the show, like, ain't no new TV gigs and

(03:25):
let me get my shit together. I got to get
back to the basics, get back out on the road.
So book about thirty weekends and bang bang bang bang bang.
And then once we got closer to September, the debate
was whether or not to put any part just for
the folks who ain't seen it yet. There's no politics

(03:46):
in this, right. It's like one or two policy point things.
But I don't sit in anything like like, I don't
even I dabble and race, So I'm really talking about
race that much this time. I did that for three
straight special right, So the bore I started writing the material,
the more it all started looking like it was like
focusing into one spot on one thing, and it just

(04:08):
became about loneliness and just connection. Just we don't talk
to we won't talk to each other no more.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
No, we done.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
That's it. That's all this shit boiled down.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
As an introvert is interesting because I never liked talking
to people, but I liked the world where people liked
talking to people. And and now that everyone's trying to
come to my side.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
I'm like, this is two. It's getting too much. Guys.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
We yeah need y'all to be able to communicate with
each other.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
It's like, did y'all not built for this?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
And I am not? Roy?

Speaker 5 (04:40):
How was it going from having like the TV show
to going on the road, because you know, when you're
doing a TV show that takes up a lot of
the year, you go from that to like book book book, book, book, travel, travel, travel, travel,
How did you make that transition?

Speaker 4 (04:54):
It was? I mean, that's the basics. I did that
for fifteen years before Day Show, if we're being honest,
So I was just more dusting off the old muscle.
The thing that was weird was having free time when
I got back to New York. Like that was the thing, Like,
I don't know, like, for a minute i left Daily Show,
I felt like a like you know when your parents

(05:16):
were tired and your daddy retired and your mama like
you need to get out this house and just be
home time. Yeah, it was like that, So like I
was happy to go back out on the road. And
then I also it also gave me a little bit
more time with my son because now I'm not dealing
because like my first specials I did while I was
still actively on the Daily Show, so I'm either traveling

(05:40):
for work or I'm traveling for me. So you know,
I lost a lot of weekends for that. But it
was for the most part, it was it was good.
The only thing that was kind of weird. It was
like going to new countries and stuff, Like I went
to Canada for a month and toured just because I'm curious,

(06:01):
what the fuck y'all talking about that? Right? Let me
just see what's going on? Oh, y'all hate y'all leader too.
All right, I'm going back there.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Man, Is it weird now doing stand up with Like?
I feel like the difference now, like you gotta have standards,
Like you've become a name, you're somebody, you got accustomed
to a certain lifestyle. Is it different not sleeping in
your car or you know, like doing you know? Or
is this are you roughing it is? It's like, listen,

(06:28):
I'm back to the little Kenton end, Like this is
the old school roy is back?

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Are you like me?

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Booze, you're going? I ain't never going back. Once you
get to take the first class, you'd be like, why
would I go?

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Why would I go?

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Down? I still is the thing. I will play a
shithold open mic in a random city. My reputation is
such that if I'm in town that there was years
where I was doing this tour for this white radio
show called the Bob and Tom Show, and that's syndicated.

(06:58):
They're basically like white time Joiner for middle aged white
folks in middle of America. Right. They owned seventy markets
and they do their version of a sky show where
they would go to town and do it like four
five comics. I would do that show from like seven
thirty to like ten, and I wasn't the headline on
the show. So I'm done at eight thirty. Bitch. I'm

(07:20):
cross town at an open mic by nine fifteen, and
the young comedians who were there, they were like, oh,
why he drove it? Where are you're coming because they
didn't even know the show that I was on. What
was happening. I'm like, yeah, yeah, but going back to
the embassy suite, motherfucker. So there is part of me

(07:41):
that enjoys that struggle and fear because I'll be honest
to that side of the game, no caring. Is that
leaving the show gave me back some of the h
that I think you need to, like that almost fall
off the chair feeling. You need that periodically through your life.

(08:03):
I do. At least I am better when my back
is against the wall. You put me in the fourth quarter.
I'm gonna figure it out. I left the show and
did more in a year than most of the time
when I was on the show.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
And I was like, oh, he out there, out there.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
I'm just looking at the stats. And I sold a
special to Hulu, I sold the book, I sold three scripts.
I'm in two films coming up this year that shot
in the last year since I left Daily Show, one
with Keanu Reeves, the other with Andre Holland and du
wander Wise and the Kobahari. So for me, that's a
good year.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
Right, that's a great year.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
That's a good year for a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
So that's is good five years.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Let me ask you this though, like, because you also
got the TV show on CNN, right.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
So that happened. That happened. I forgot to mention that
got CNN ships, So.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Like, is is that thing where you had to consider
in my like almost coming back to a Daily show
ask routine, like where it's like even though you're the host,
but that's more of like people depending on you. That's
a stable like thing of like we need to be here,
these are the hours blah blah blah, versus the I'm

(09:17):
on the road, I'm making my own schedule a little bit.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
I'm getting in New York.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I don't know what the fuck to do, and I
got too much time myans like what we like? How
does that feell in the gaps? And does it hinder
any of your other you know, aspirations.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
No, the issue with CNN was So first off, one miscalculation.
If we're gonna keep it a hundred one miss I
left Daily Show and this is my figuring. All Right,
y'all know, sure what y'all want to do for a host, Fine, cool,
take your time at But I'm starting to think about

(09:51):
my life after this show, right, So that's either going
to be now or it's going to be whenever a year, year,
two years from now, when the new host fires me,
or there's a merger and the show is canceled. There's
a you have budget cuts and layout. The game could
go a thousand different ways. I hadn't seen it. So

(10:14):
so if I'm gonna leave and start my own thing,
I feel like an election year is the best time
to do that, right, regardless of who the incoming host is.
If I'm on my own project, let me leave now.
I got a million ideas of shows that I louted
I want to do. I took my ass out in
the market. Them crackers was like, what we ain't buying
as fuck as you talking about.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
A new idea.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
We ain't buy a new idea. And I was like,
I thought that was just for scripted shows. No go
for political satire too, You go motherfucker. Let me go
and book these thirty weekends, right, get over the road
and sling the joke.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta figure out ways that
like three sell them reboots. You know, I feel like
that's what's getting greenlit right now. You gotta Roy Wood Jr.
A comedic take on in the heat of the night,
you know, something like that.

Speaker 4 (11:13):
You be sneak thissing. So when I looked at the market,
they were only making remakes. And so when CNN came
to me, what have I got news for you? I
met with the British producers first, which when you're thinking
about joining a television show, that's not the norm, right,
you know what I'm saying, like for the producers to go, hey,

(11:35):
CNN is gonna do what the fuck we tell them
to do? It's our show. And then I find out
it's a thirty year it's a remake of a British
show that's been on for thirty years, and I go,
that's why they're making it, because we know what to
do with this, because there's a case study. And if
you look at since I left Daily Show, there's only
been two new political satire It's shows like news panel shows,

(12:00):
It's US and After Midnight on CBS, and After Midnight
is a reboot of at Midnight from when it was
on Comedy Central. So nothing new is getting maid right now.
And I didn't calculate that that that we would be
in a creative low tide from the late night TV
side of the game. I knew we was doing remake
reboot City for TV and all let's bring back a

(12:23):
reunion show and all of that shit. Okay, all right, fine,
but I didn't calculate that. So the CNN thing, in
a way, it kind of fell in my lap. But
I also feel like I wouldn't have even been offered
it if I was still over a Daily Show, because
at that point I got offered. Matter of fact, I
got offered CNN around the same time they were rumoring

(12:46):
that Joe Biden was about to get pushed out. Yeah,
you couldn't leave Daily Show to start the way the
contracts are staggered, at least the way my contracts were staggered.
I would have been locked in through the election. And
there's no where you're gonna let me just leave in
the middle of it, because you can't break new correspondence

(13:08):
during an election year. It's it's differ you you integrate
them into the daily show viewership the year before. It's generally,
you know, that's generally how they kind of do it.
That's that's what they did with me, Rnnie Chang and Desi,
and that's kind of what they did with the next
wave with Troy and Grace. You bring them in in
between or mid terms or whatever. So and also out

(13:33):
of respect to whoever's hosting that, I wouldn't have wanted
to leave the show shorthanded, right right, So you just
kind of sometimes you gotta to do us next. You
gotta kind of like let go of what you got,
so you gotta open your.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Sometime working working in like the political comedic spear for
so long? Is that partially why you know this special?
You were like I would like to get a little
bit away from just the politics of it. Or was
it just like because I feel like this is also
like a I don't want to say a trap, but
like it's got to be a temptation of like the

(14:11):
easy political laugh, you know what I mean, the like
y'all agree with me, So I'm gonna just say what
y'all agree with y'all gonna clap and then we just
kind of like move on from there, as opposed to
like finding something that's universally unifying, something that touches people's
humanity beyond just like what your news feed is, you know.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, And I feel like that's something that'll be a
little bit more evergreen down the road, you know when
you turn around, because like people change special state the
same I got Kamala Trump jokes. But right once I
knew I had to see an end job, I was like, Okay,
well that'll be where I do that stuff because and
also the poor thing about to see an end job,
I ain't got to do a lot for that job

(14:53):
the way I did Daily Show, like like that to
the previous question. My workload is Fridays, they have writers
and we'll swap a texta too. During the week. Here's
some stuff and the show for the people who haven't
watched it, it is a summary of the current events
of the week in the form of a quiz show.
That's it. Me, Amber Ruffing and Michael Liam Black are

(15:14):
like the team captains or whatever. And then we bring
on two guests, one from the left, one from the right,
and if they's somebody that's really sideways, we'll get in
on them. Amber Ruffing got in on Tim birch At,
a Republican from Tennessee who then voted wrong on everything
that you think vote yes on oxygen tariffs, like he

(15:36):
will vote on he woned them type Republicans. So, but
we're not getting to the solution of anything, like we
don't have that burden Like John Oliver Daily Show or whatever.
You can just wile out cracking joke can be done.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
How hard is it for you to find Republican guests
that can do the show?

Speaker 3 (15:55):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Because I feel like, especially in our political like panel
new type thing, it's, I guess just kind of the
same as social media.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
It's really rewards.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
The disparateness, right, like like the more extreme over here,
the more views, the more clicks, you know, the more
viral the clip from the show gos or whatever. Seems
to be kind of the reward metric for the way
we view things. So it's like, even if something not good,
we'd be like, but look at it got seven million hits.
And so with your show, because I've watched it and

(16:26):
like it needs.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
A little bit of collaboration.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's it's a lot of improv, it's a lot of yes,
and you need to understand comedy to make it work.
And when I saw it, Bomani was on there, and
y'all had a dude on there that was he was
a Republian, but he was actually like willing to willing
to be the straight man, willing to get dunked on,
willing to dunk like and same from the other side.
By the way, people were willing to give him props

(16:50):
when he did something funny to be like, Okay, that
was funny, all right? Is that hard to book? Is
that hard to find now in this in this social climate?

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Right? I'm not I'm not on a producer side of
the show yet. I know some of the names that
they've had that turned around and canceled at the last minute.
I know we had a thing last year where the
homie Samantha b when they found out that Tim Burchett
was going to be on her episode, she declined to

(17:18):
come in because, you know, a lot of the shit
that he's voted no on it's not funny and people
are dying as a result of it. So she was like,
this shit ain't jokes. So if I come on now
i'm trying, I might slap the shit out and let
me go on. And we respected that, We respected that choice.
Like we ain't talking about it because everybody's going to
have a different focus on how they think comedy should

(17:42):
be done. Now. I don't think that for me, And
this is a conversation I had with them Brits about
it before I came on board. For me, I do
not think we gain anything by having the same comedic
approach we've had the last eight years, which is their
stupid and we are right that ain't done nothing. So

(18:05):
let's see. Let's see what this does in terms of
faking some sense of dialogue across the aisle. Since y'all
say that's what we need, well, let's see. And also,
I don't think if you're highly liberal, highly republican, you're
gonna start realizing the audiences are smarter than people are
gonna start noticing that you're making a good point. You

(18:28):
replacing a punchline with a good point. Yes, that ain't
gonna kite you four years, no more. You got eight
you got you got, you got eight years out of
that shit. Stylistically, I think it's gonna turn because you
already see black folks talking about they checked out and
I don't care. So if you don't care to the

(18:49):
point of not wanting to even be engaged in what
Trump is doing, it's very much that y'all gonna wuck
around and find out era for a lot of liberals
to Republicans, right who you don't care, then that mean
you don't care what's going on over there. You don't
care if the forest is burning, So then I feel
like you would then be less inclined to laugh at

(19:10):
humor that focuses on a theme that you claim to
be no longer politically interested in, right, Right, So if
you put jokes in that bucket, I don't know if
you're gonna I'm not gonna get.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
You right right, the returns you gotta be diminished in
returns at this point, because one that bucket is full,
like it's it's just been what comedy has been for
so long. And I think the division that we have
online you can see it in your algorithm, right, It's
like the clips that I share was like, look at
the comedians slams da da da da audience member or whatever.

(19:42):
And I'm sure the other side is getting a version
of whatever that looks like too, you know, but at
some point.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
It's like, yeah, it's like I feel like like comedy.
I feel like comedy, like political satire. Political humor for
the last eight years has been look what they are doing.
Look come look at what they're doing to us. Look
what they are doing. And I think, now, if you

(20:10):
do it right, you get a couple of conservatives on
your show. You get a couple of conservatives, so you go,
look what you all are doing. And I think if
we do our show right on CNN, we'll be able
to have policymakers on and through joke form, roast them
about the dysfunction of how they are running the country
instead of calling them out from across say come on
over here, sitch ass. Now we're really nice to you.

(20:31):
We're gonna get you some craft services, and then we're
gonna get into these jokes about what is happening and
then try and create a sense of accountability. Yes, now
they got to come on the show for that to happen.
And so we've gotten a couple of good bookings so
far that I think are like the you know, the
testers to show everybody else that you could come on.

(20:52):
I would love to have Ted Cruz on the show,
would love Elun Musk on the show.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Never agree, right, yeah, I don't think something right yeah,
because there's also a reward system over there that's kind
of similar to the like we don't sit with them,
you know. I think I think that's a thing that
people didn't see coming really from the like we're not
sitting with each other thing was like the creation of
like a space where like, you know, like Joe Rogan

(21:21):
is the biggest podcaster in the world, but part of
why he's the biggest podcast because he created a space
where people are like, cool, I don't want to sit
over there with them, let me come sit with you. You
gonna at least hear me out, Like I could say
some nonsense and you will at least sit across from
me and treat it with like, huh, that's interesting, as
opposed to like, get the fuck out of your dumb motherfucker,
you know. And I think that that that tone does

(21:44):
matter when it comes to people sitting down, because you
can't really have accountability if you're not sharing the space.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
And I was gonna say, you was talking about like
a buckets being full. If you look at me and
Roger subscribe to like this news would call like pod news,
And if you look at their numbers, a lot of
their numbers, say how a lot of their political podcasts,
their numbers are tanking. Yeah, you know, it tells you
they've lost in the last year. You know, since the election,

(22:12):
a million subscribers have been down. So what you're saying
is right, Roy, It's like you have to pay attention
to what's happening. And if people are purposefully seeing in
all these people, you know, for their political shows.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
It's going down. Yeah, people tapping out.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
Right, So if they're tapping out, you have to reach them.
You can't be like, well then we don't care what.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Let me ask you this though, right selfishly, do you
ever kind of want to have a crash out on
the show like that that moment that everyone's talking about,
you know, like like if Bomani would have just said
I'm sorry, Roy jumped across the table and start choking
that man, would you have been like, you know what,
that's bad. It's a bad look, but it's but that's
some billion views we're gonna be sharing sharp all right, security.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, I mean you still want to show where the
next guests will come on. So you know, we turned
down your nigga them a little bit. So I had
to do them the way our Sineo did me on
Star Search. You ever heard that story? Now what happened?
I was on Star Search? I was so so. I
was on Star Search three and B two K was

(23:19):
one of the celebrity guest judges. So you know, it's
like Apollo. You perform, they rank you one star to
five stars, and you know they go to each judge
three stars, fas stars, three stars, they get to be
two K, they go one star. I would have hit zero,
but there's no button for it. Oh no, Now for context,

(23:44):
I'm twenty five. These are two thirteen year olds. My
comedy's not for you. It was never gonna be for you.
It was always going to be one star. But you're
not processing this on live television. And I'm standing there
next to our Sinio and they give you the judge,
give you the star, and you know, the cameras back
on you to get the reaction.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
That sh it just start glitching out.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
I spinna custom niggas out live television, right, I'll spinding
them two little niggas is finna get cussed out, and
so I take a step towards the judge's table. It's
fifty yards of me. I'm not gonna make it right,
but I'm like mother, like just the ignorant Birmingham and
coolest shit. Arsenio Hall just tugs on the tail of

(24:32):
my blazer and it yanks me back. But on TV
you can't even tell the ship happened. You can't even
tell it happened. And our Senio through his teeth mike
pulled down so the audio man can't even hear it,
so you can't hear it at home. He goes, I
don't want to do that.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
You don't wonder that he's smiling.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
He's smiling the whole fucking tone. Professional, Thank you judges,
one star for go stand over.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
There, come on, come on through our CEO.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Cut to the commercial break. Our senior turned to me
like a fucking black father. He just goes, nobody will
remember a bad joke. Everybody remembers a bad attitude.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
He saved your.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Career, low key. Yeah, we wouldn't even if you nigga
that tried to choke to thirteen year old.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Yeah, we'll be pulling up your clip right now, right, Yeah,
you'll be playing.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
That remember run with the kids? Asked man, he was funny.
He used to have some good print call he was
gonna be somebody.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
Yeah, man, it was. It was legit a crazy ass time.
And I don't even understand, Like why our citio did
it right? You know you you could have just let
me go crazy and got the ratings right?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
Why you care?

Speaker 4 (25:57):
Man?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
He got a good heart.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Man, He was like, I won't see this brother ruin
his life in front of me in America. In addition
to like, you know, the stand up and the TV show,
you're also doing this acting man, Like, So is the
acting world like do you have more time.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
To do it now? Is it like or is it
like more of an aspiration where like this is a fruition.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
This is the fruition of years of work and now
it's coming the thing I'm gonna be in everything y'all
about to be seeing me, uh shining?

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Like you know what? What is that journey been?

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Like? Acting is one of those things where you can
either be completely.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Oh ship he froze and is he FROs on you'all
side too? Oh he's coming back? Hearing some heard something.
Oh Lord, no, Internet, don't do this to us.

Speaker 4 (26:54):
It's wonderful. Mhm uh. It's myself. Andre Holland then called
Bahari the wonder Wise and it's Andre's character working through
who you know you should be with versus who your
heart wants you to be with, which you know? Ever

(27:16):
you know men have your there's a one arm and
that works realistically. Easy, ass girl, who you know you
shouldn't be with? But men and your ass be excited.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Oh I think I think his Internet is tapping in
the world. Guys.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Hey, it's me. You know what I'm saying. I don't
need to be Andre Holland's character. I don't need to
transform like that. There's a degree of technical that you
need to have that I don't possess that I ain't
got that. I feel like the biggest schemings, how can

(27:53):
I put it? Like doing stuff that it feels right
for me, that exists within my current performance skill set.
I'm not Jamie Fox and I'm not trying it will
require a level of transformation that I'm not committed to
because I still like doing stand up on a regular basis,

(28:14):
because I like doing podcasts. And if you notice all
of the best comedic actors they stop doing comedy for
a very long time because one, movies are tiring. But
also stand up is a muscle that you have to
work over and over and over again, and acting is
no different. You know. That's part of why I'm Jamie

(28:35):
even came back. Man.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, Is it so with the acting? Is it like.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Taking away from these other things in a way where
you're like, you're gonna see yourself falling off a stand
up or you like that will never happen.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
As I'm stand up first and foremost.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
I think I'll be nonscripted first and foremost. I think
all this shit is eventually coming into just can you
create like what you all have created for yourselves here?
This is it. We're eventually becoming the new networks, and
in a way we're all just I think in the
next ten years we'll figure out in the media landscape
that all of this content we're making now was just

(29:17):
the minor leagues for linear and then they'll pay you,
they'll overpay you to not have to compete with you.
I think it's where they'll go so to be an
actor alone and focus on that. I don't think that
for me that I have friends that actors and sometimes
be stressed in the face, and I don't like that.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Do you have to take acting classes and stuff or
you just like, like, what's it like for you?

Speaker 4 (29:43):
I think you should take acting classes. I think it's
an insult to the craft if you don't try to
learn some of the nuanced and stuff. And you know,
because a lot of that stuff has helped me, and
it's and it's things that you don't There are people
using techniques on you, and they make it seem like
it's not a fucking it just seems effortless. Like you

(30:05):
can tell Martin Lawrence has some dramatic training when you
look at some of his stand up Martin was a community.
We're just talking comedic at the motion to stillness, Martin is, ah,
like that's his thing. Like it's just I can go fast,
I move frantic, then I stopped, say something, and then

(30:28):
move frantic again. And when I stopped, I dropped that
down to and then I come on, no, Gina right right,
Like that that's technique, man, So I think you you,
I think you have to learn all of that. I mean,
I'm fine with with where I am, Like, like in

(30:48):
the k for For example, so the Keanu Reeves movie
Jonah Hill is Jonah Hill and Keanu Reeves. Keanu's a
white actor who's about to get canceled for something. A
tape is about to come out, but he doesn't know
what's on the tape and doesn't know what he's done.
And I'm wanted the people on this crisis. Man, Like
I'm like, think of me as a bizarro Ben Crump

(31:11):
is what I play in the movie, like Ben Crump
meets Dion Sanders. I know that makes sense, but that's
literally who the character is that plays a little bit
more onto me. Or like when I was the principal
on Flatbush Misdemeanors, they yell at cuss. You can't do
one of the two will suffice. You can't yell an
cuss like that's fun, that's silly. That's that's enough for me, man.

(31:36):
I'm thankful for that. You know. I've written a couple
of films that I would love to do, but they're
more buddy ensemble stuff. I don't want to carry the load.
I'm not any Murphy. I don't want to be. I
think that for as long as you can perform live,
you control your destiny, you know, I think regardless of
AI and all of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, and that's what I take. I think about AI.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Maybe it's just me open up a third al for you,
AI is a grift, and I'm gonna tell you why,
because all AI does right now, like one day it
will be the things that they promise it's gonna be.
But right now, all this doing is taking shit we've
already done and milking it into shit and be like
here you go. You be like, well, this ain't nothing new.
You're copying.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
You're not.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
You're not giving no new ideas, no new thoughts, You're
not looking into the future. You don't have no hopes,
no greens, no aspirations, not trying to be fun. That's
no emotions behind it. But you y'all telling me that
I should trust something. That's all this going. All this
is is going back and just copying shit we've already done.
And so for me, I'm like, it can't do all

(32:42):
this shit that y'all promise is gonna do.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
My favorite thing about the artificial intelligence, if you look
at these commercials and stuff and what they're selling us,
if you just pay attention, they're not selling us artificial
artificial intelligence. Yet they're selling us automation. Yes, and they're
calling it artificial intelligence. But it's like, if you want
to know the seven restaurants closest to you, I'm like,
we have that. Like the only thing is in the

(33:08):
commercial you asked the phone that in a voice answered
you instead of like the you know, typing it into
Google or whatever. Yes, but as of right now, you
haven't really created anything new. You've automated something and called
it intelligence. Yeah, that's that's not intelligence necessarily.

Speaker 5 (33:26):
No, And then you pay people cheaper to fix the
ship when the machine fuck up because the machine gonna
fuck up.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
They want to do that with writers, like have artificial
intelligence writers cript and then give go to the writer
and be like fix this shit for less money than
we would pay you normally. So yeah, that definitely is.
It's right now it is a hustle phase. I don't
know if it'll ever come to fruition in a way
that they wanted to come to. Fruition will find out,
but right now it is tell Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Remember three D televisions that was gonna be the future.
ESPN had niggas in your house wearing glasses football. Yeah,
then it was gonna be Google Glass. Then it was
gonna be remember the Metaverse.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, spent billions of dollars in that flop.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yeah, we're going out there, We're going all were glasses
in our living room like demolition man. Yeah can buck
somebody from across the.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
Ain't nobody walking outside with five pounds posted across their face? Them?

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Ships is heavy?

Speaker 3 (34:27):
The glasses.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, it was like, this is too well.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I think what's also interesting with the Metaverse is like
they made it sound like this futuristic techy thing, and
then the first time they showed it, you look like
a video game character but with no legs, Like it
was like, y'all, y'all couldn't even get the legs in
this joint. Like that's I don't think I want to
spend much time here. I think I'm gonna be okay,
Mark Zuckerberg now that it is, But it is kind

(34:52):
of interesting to see that, like Journey with the artificial intelligence,
because I think mostly what it's being used is the
leverage the threat that feeling you talked about where he's like, oh,
you get out your chair.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I feel like right now it's mostly being used as.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
A threat to people and their work to be like,
don't y'all ask for too much now, because we'll bring
the artificial intelligence in here on your ass and everybody,
and so we're constantly in the state of like, oh,
my job, is my job gonna be gone? When they
did it with writers, because I was working a game
there and everybody's.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
Like, you know this chat GPT, man, you could ask
it a.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Question and no, no, no, And you know, we had some
people that fucked around with like, man, I asked it
to write in the style and so and so, and
I'm like, this shit is whack, Like this is not
it's not good, but it's scary, and scary will keep
you from going in the boss's office and being like
I need a raise because scary is like we'll get
artificial intelligence do the shit. And you're like, well, then

(35:47):
I don't need a raise. I would have liked I'm
gonna go back to work. I'm sorry for interrupting the meeting.
I feel like that's what it's before.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Now wait wait sidebar uh tell me tell me if
you can see this real quick.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Yes, oh that's you, that's you on on the show.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
No audio though, right, No?

Speaker 3 (36:12):
No audio? No audio?

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Okay, yeah, yeah, hang on, let me let's be two.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
K telling you, okay, you make real bigger.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
I can make it. I can make it the whole stage.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
That's bt K telling him, okay, you got two stars
from the lady. Yeah they said zero Marion.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Now that was.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Okay, looks like let's go back to confirm the ID.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
Okay, yes, correct, my bad.

Speaker 4 (36:42):
So now when you cut back, notice that my arm
is not around our sineo. You see the shoulder. Yes,
So naming Judd talks gives me two stars. Man, I
really laid it down this time. One star, one star,
two stars, then.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Big because he's with the assignment.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
So right there, now you see our sins arm is
around me.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yes, that's the tub that.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Was after the tug. And so that was the thing
where it was like, all right, man.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
That's a good black man. That's a good brother right there.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Man, I appreciate him for uh for I appreciate him
for that, man, because I listen, the world will not
be the same without you. Brother, wouldn't like remember that
community and went to prison for assault. It was it's
a hilarious.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
It's on.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
It's on the world's Dumbest Criminals beat up.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
So what do you think about this stuff that I
think feel like it's been trending all weekend.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
You know, Trump's inauguration is coming.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
I think Rick Ross, Soldier boy Snoop Dog and one
other person I'm drawing a blank on performed at his
crypto event or something, and I feel like the whole
internet is coming down on him, like with Oh Nelly,
everybody's coming down on like what.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
The Nelly tried to go on Willie D and explain.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
I got the clip by the way I got the clip.
We can watch. We can watch Nelly try to explain
let that ride.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
I haven't seen this with oh you haven't seen it?

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Okay, all right, I'm gonna pull it.

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Up if you got both sides of it. We need
to also look at Willy D's face, because Willy D
is trying to like understand.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Willie.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
First of all, I can't think of a person I
less want to explain my possible racial faux pas tu
than Willie D. Like I don't know if y'all know
his his his legacy, his raps, his stances on issues.

Speaker 3 (38:43):
He ain't exactly the one to be playing these games.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
And I would not say he's always the most sympathetic ear.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
This is the same brother that gave us the song
of Where the Coon's At?

Speaker 4 (38:57):
So he also gave us ball headed hose, which encouraged
black women to go on their natural hair journey.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Correct, that is correct. It was ahead of the curve that.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
Uh So, I don't think that's what bad hose was.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
I don't think it was.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Uh fact do we need facts in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 3 (39:19):
We don't need fact check. But yeah, here here he knows.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
I'm from Saint Louis. Everybody knows. Saint Louis is what
made me. That's what I were on my chest in
my art. But I was born on a military base
in Austin. My father served, my grandfather served, my uncle served,
my auntie served, my cousins serve. I've entertained the troops
all around this world. I've entertained the troops.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Ain't no money in that.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
That's that.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
That's something that I felt I had to do because
I always want to mm.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Hmmm mm hmm. That is true. He has done that.

Speaker 6 (39:50):
Those kids on those military basis. You see what I'm saying.
Uh far being at a young age, but I was there.
I know what that meant to do families that have
been away from for home for three, four or five, six,
seven years sometimes all could be ten year plus.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
What does the military have to do with the inaugeration?

Speaker 6 (40:13):
That means if these people can give they life for
the office, Nelly can perform for what.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Now.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
I gotta say, I do think it was a bad
choice to go a third person on that. You know,
I think you should just say I instead of Nelly,
just because now it sound like an ego thing.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
But I get his answer. It sounds like it's not related.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
But I actually think his answer, Oh you're muted, Roy,
I don't know if you meant to be muted.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
I'm listening, I was yelling.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
I just want to make sure we didn't.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
But yeah, I think I know it sounds unrelated, but
I actually do kind of understand this point of the
military has a duty to the country that they perform
regardless of who is the president, regardless of who they
voted for, regardless of who wanted who lost.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
The problem is, Nigga, this ain't the military.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
This is a You didn't take no oath to become
no rapper, right right? I just choose to rap. I
mean nearly has a lot of Republican fans, and then
the benefit of ticket sales to be there. It's the
closest thing to the Super Bowl. So I think, though,
as consumers and people, why do we still hold these

(41:22):
high expectations on our entertainers. Why do you, like, why
do you assume that Snoop was going to be there
with you in the fight? And the thing and and
the Snoop thing is a little more intense because he
the one that said, tuck Donald Trump, and if you
perform for Trump, your coon, you know, dot a hero
live long enough to be you know, Snoop is in

(41:44):
that realm now. So I understand the hypocrisy of it.
I don't think he can come back around Black media
without eventually having to answer that question. But I don't
think any of them are going to lose money because
of this.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Well things about it. The first one is this one
I saw Nellie talking to Willie d. My first thought was,
uh oh. Then the second thing is, I think we
hold our celebrities to the standards that we would hold
politicians to, and we want our politicians to be celebrities.

(42:17):
And I think that that has been an inflection point
after Obama. Dad is probably started with Reagan, to be honest,
but after Obama, I felt like it's everyone's fully in
the tank, Like we want politicians that make us feel
like Beyonce, you know what I'm saying, Like it's AOC
Like it's like, well, what's the policies. It's like I

(42:38):
need we need attractive person that can deliver a dynamic
message and a great speech and make us feel flowery.
And we you know, we want to play music, We
want to we want to have a performance. And when
it comes to our celebrities, if you look at what
the standards we hope celebrities to now, it's not like
this is to me is like a low bar. So
I understand why people are mad Like performing for Trump,

(42:59):
I think is one of the low as bars to clear.
Like a lot of people could be like, well, I
just think that's bad that. But there's also stuff where
people are mad at stuff like why didn't you put
a watermelon in your avatar for Palestine, Lizzo?

Speaker 3 (43:11):
You didn't say nothing about that.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
That's like holding a celebrity to the status of like
what you need your like representative in Congress to be
saying that that has flipped, and I'm sure it's weird
as a celebrity entertainer to be living in a world
like that.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Well, I just wanted to be rich and performed. Yeah,
but the world wasn't burning the way it is now
right when you started, when you first started your career,
we're far more politically divisive, and the folks is starting
like it's way worse now than when fucking Pimp Juice
came out.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
That's true, it ain't the same.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
Wait, one of y'all gotta read Keith's comment and.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
Air Force air Force ones do not make you an
Air Force veteran.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
You know it does not, baby, it does not.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
Go ahead, hilarious, And you know what, Roy and Rogeric
For me, I never felt so old until, like I
had the realization that Rogers say, because I'm looking at
AOC like, hey, you're a politician, do politician shit. And
I'm looking at the celebrities going, I don't give fuck
about your political views. You can't vote, you can't put

(44:24):
nobody in office, don't you don't you don't go on
the Senate flow like not tell me funny, you don't
got no real power.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
I'm looking at the politicians like do your job.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Still, I still have a kind of an old school
view like that, and I don't I don't think I'm alone.
I just think the places that we share these opinions
are places where you feel alone. So like if I
were to say this on social media to be like, guys,
gonna be honest not really mad at Nellie because I
never really was expecting much from Nelly. It's like, but
how can we I thought you stood for so you

(44:54):
can't say that. But I feel like the vast majority
of people believe what I just said. Like if you
go to a concert, very few people are there to
be like, well, it's really about his political views, honestly,
and I was here to support that. It's like, no,
you were here to hear air Force ones, maybe maybe
a country grammar.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
That's what you came for.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
That was the deal withes And with politicians, and like
I said, I'm not knocking this, I get it. This
is the new environment. But with politicians. I didn't need
Alc to be good at TikTok. It's cool that she's
good at Instagram live or whatever, but I didn't need
it from for me to measure her worth as like
is she good at her job.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
I didn't need that.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
But you're a smart voter.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Most voters are dumb exactly.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
So you need like as much as Jasmine Krackett has
so many great policies that she's pushing. You need the
roast of Marjorie Taylor Green because then it brings the
fringe political people who kind of just oh wait, who's
this sister. Oh she cuts her white lady out. Now
tell me about your policies. That's how our attention spans. Yeah,

(46:00):
because he can spend time with you as a politician,
cussing and acting the fool and neck rolling. They're doing
anything that was unbecoming. You could get roasted for stepping
outside of yourself. So Trump has made that a norm behaviorally,
and our social media habits that it demands that type
of engagement. Nelly made one point that I thought was
fairsh and that he said I was performing for the inauguration.

(46:23):
He's already been elected. This wasn't the RNC yep. So
his argument is that I'm not trying to help Trump
get in office. He won. I didn't say shit the
whole election. Yep. Let me go get this goddamn.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Check from Let me get the crystal first of all,
shout out, fuck up, shout out, got.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
A second baby on the way. He ain't no cheap date.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Shout out the soldier boy, because he the one that
came out and fight out said Trump put a check
in my pocket, and I was like, came argue out,
like he's.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
A lot of people doing it for free. Get that check.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Like the issue with Nelly for me was he used
way too many words with the truths and that he
should have just listened.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
And y'all not a direct deposit hit.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Y'all are not playing country grammar like y'all were twenty
years ago. And I'm gonna just get this check. It's
not my fault that y'all voted for Trump. Like even
even when Obama like laughed at Trump's joke, I was like, yeah,
it's guys. If you didn't want Obama to ever be
in a room with Trump, there was a time for
this in November. Yes, you could have squakeed. None of

(47:22):
these niggas would have had to deal with.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Him ever again. But because if he would have lost,
he wouldn't have been showing up to these events. I
guarantee he would have been like, I need to get
out the country. Okay that I don't know what these
trials are looking like.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
But as soon as he as soon as he won,
he was He is a staple of the American culture
as much as any other president that we have right,
so we have bestowed the office of president on him.
When that judge in New York was like, I can't
send you to jail because of American people decided you
can't go to jail, that's real talk. That was what

(47:55):
was on the ballot. People just didn't want to believe
that shit. But you being upset and you typing about
it don't change what is reality. This motherfucker's feeling to
be president tomorrow. So I think I think you're right.
That was the line that stuck out to me about
Nelly too, when he said he's already president.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
I went, right, that's that's facts. Now, Just can you.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
Tell Chris I was Nelly? Nelly did it wrong? If
I was Nelly and I was trying to explain performing
for President Trump, y'all have cut to me on the
live stream, I'd have been sitting on that couch with
Ashanti Bay Yeah, rubbing the Shanti pregnant billy. But it
was a family man, y'all. I'd have been sitting there like,

(48:35):
who's the pastor that was cheating on his wife.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
All the time, Derek Jackson Jackson, I'd have.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Been sitting there like Derrek Jackson, yeap, and just sitting there.
Today is a day for unity a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yeah, today is a day for unity and the black family.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Willie d like, yeah, he would.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Have had that exactly rubbing up feet. Yeah, just been
me rubbing and yeah. It seems there's been a lot
of discourse about my genie for performance. Now it's a
family man, I'm all through hands.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Now is a time for love?

Speaker 2 (49:17):
I would say, yeah, now it's a wild time right now, man, Like.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
This is I just think president My thing though, is
that like somebody in the chat was asking.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
His christ Michelle?

Speaker 4 (49:32):
Yeah, has she has her reputation and relationship with the
black community completely recovered? I don't think so. I would
need to look through her runner performances since the first
Trump inauguration, like did you do it Essence Fest? Did
you do one of the side Essence Fest? You know
Essence they got the main stage and something like they
go through the side stage. We got another one in

(49:53):
the locker room got another activation.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
I haven't heard her name.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
I looked it up just now. She is touring in
but I do think it was irreculably heard. But but
it it's so ironic. I feel the same way about her.
I feel about the people that ran up on the Capitol.
If you would have waited four years, they would have
opened the door for you, because that's what America did essentially.

(50:17):
And now I feel like four years ago or whatever,
eight years ago, when she performed, it was like, no America,
fuck that, no crazy, we need to be But I
feel like now even and people think it's just because
there dudes, but I say, even if it was a
woman right now, the black woman performing, it would be like, yeah,
well we don't like it, but we're not. You're not

(50:41):
gonna get quote unquote canceled. You're not gonna your career
is not over. You're gonna Snoop will be fine. Rick
Ross will be fine, Soldier Boy will be fine, and
so and else.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Rick. Now Ross I can't speak to, but Ross I
can't speak to. But my thing is, you did something
we don't like. I'm never ever talking to you again, right,
I'm never ever dealing with you again. Okay, I guess,
but I just don't think people are disposable like that,
because when you look at Snoop's record for charity, we

(51:10):
ain't talking nothing else. We're just talking about what he
does with regards to charities that football league and Loan
Beach that he pays for with his own money. It's
not fundraised for it. That shit comes out of his
own that same Trump money he made this weekend. It's
gonna end up in some football pads on some little
motherfucker that's gonna get his family out of the hood
in ten years because professional football players have been birthed

(51:33):
from that league, all right. So you look at Nelly
and everything that he's done for leukemia, and so it's like,
these aren't completely horrible people. In my opinion, that's a that's.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
I would also say, though I would also say, though.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
They just fat people up and throw them away.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I don't think people will care about that charity shit
like that, just because I don't think people are necessarily
real about that. The people who've been help will care,
but in general, people throw that shit out the window,
the sink, and they don't like somebody jay Z's complicated
like that too, Like the second he do something people
don't like is he's a coones sell out his ass
nigga that level walked the planet. And then it's like,

(52:12):
well he also bailed out all the Black Lives Matter
protests without and we only found out because like they
told us, because they was like, can y'all stop calling
him a coon? The niggas got us out of jail, Like,
but it goes so I feel like in these flashes
of rage, he goes out the window. But I do
think the difference between them and Chrissette Michelle is like

(52:33):
they're not just black famous, they're famous famous. H Cossette
Michelle felt black famous, So black people got mad, which
you know specifically you're talking about We just both the
second single right right right, Like it's hard, like especially
black women when ninety percent of your fan bases black
women and ninety percent of them voted Democrat.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Yeah, it's gonna hurt. It's gonna hurt a little different.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
But I feel like a lot of the dudes are
gonna be able to do it because they're famous, famous,
and they like Nelly been doing country concerts for ten years,
like he do we see who else is performing at
the inauguration. Is this damn country fast Jason.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Al Dean and.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Yeah, like that, he gonna be fine. Snoop will be
fine because he's bigger than fucking all this ship. He's
He's gonna be at the super Bowl the American Yeah,
he hosted that.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
I was joking on CNN just yesterday that, like you
gotta remember Snoop has a contract with Sketches that is
a sketches ass demographic, right.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Yeah, yeah, they gonna sketches.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
Yep, go to the Trump and niagareat Snoop should have
a merch table out the bitch. Right in the live it.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
They're saying that Trump also did this crypto thing, and
they're like, he made thirty billion dollars overnight, and then
because of the way that the office is set up,
you have to divest from that stuff before you can
take the office. And so they're like, this is the
perfect like mean coin, like the like the hot tour

(54:08):
girl thing, cause he got to sell it. So it's
like I had to sell it, y'all. I'm sorry thirty
billion dollars in cash now. Sorry if to the rest
of you niggas holding him coins, it's worthless, but I
got my money out of it, and it's legal, Like,
this is not a pump and dump that's illegal.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
This is literally what I had to do for the office.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
So people are and what I think, and I think
it's it is interesting, South and Royce said earlier.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
But and I hate the sound I'm not.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
I don't feel like I'm checked out, but I'm very
much on the like we're finding out this we fucked around,
And so when people present these things to me, I'm
not having these outraged moments of like what you mean
with loney, your Trump got forty million dollars from Amazon.
I'm like, we knew what kind of shit they was
gonna do.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
They he didn't have to hide it.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
No, it's time right, And it's one of these I'm
old and black type of shit because I'm to the
point now when people be doing that ship and they
be crying online, I'm older, but I don't give fuck.
I'm looking like y'all didn't do what y'all was supposed
to do, So why the fuck do I care?

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Now?

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Well, the last one, like I'll start wrapping up, but
the last thing is the TikTok band went into a
quote unquote, it's not. It didn't really going to affect
TikTok poured their ship down everybody.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Like I'm seeing videos and people crying. It's like it's
affecting folks.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Obviously, there's people that have made their livelihoods off of TikTok.

Speaker 5 (55:30):
That was my biggest thing. I was like, Oh, people's baked.
Their whole income comes from that.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Because it's funny because people was crying like that's because
y'all addicted to TikTok. I'm like, some of them are
crying because the rent is due.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Yeah, rent don't stop.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Like that's a little bit different. But I feel y'all,
I understand what are your thoughts on that.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
I hope that all of the TikTokers that are versally
affected by this financially And I'm not talking about like
just some fucking around making sketches or whatever. I'm talking
like legitimate e commerce businesses that pull in six digits
a year, real business. How did they understand the important
of diversifying. You know where they're able to do stuff,

(56:15):
And I know that you may get certain reach in
one place, but when you put all of your faith
into one thing, it can be taken from you if
you have not learned anything from what happened with the
Vine creators, who luckily kind of got saved by TikTok
and Instagram around that same time, Because I believe, I
think around that time is when Instagram created reels and

(56:38):
we're trying to like do shorter content or whatever to
kind of siphon some of the Vine niggas from over there.
I you know, my heart goes out to them, and
I know people like we joke, and I made the
joke about good, now you go get a real job.
Most of them have real jobs already, right, You understand
these motherfuckers felt the fucking of almost falling off the chair,

(57:02):
and then they created something new online. And as you
build that, you're still doing what you can over here
to make money. And it's like if even the gig economy,
were you supposed to be self made technically get laid
off in that. That's that's politics. I I think though,

(57:23):
that going to completely band TikTok. I think Trump is
gonna bring it back and gets it as it in
the lipshit when he tries to run for his third term.
Lock this clip, Save lock this clip and play it back.
In four years.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
Yeah, I agree. I think also going to.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
Let everybody get in despair on your last gasp of
breath that fucking orange hain done, come down in the
water and pull your ass up out the safety.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Yeah, because hes going to be the savior.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Well.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
I think what's also interesting about it is it's already
built in that a president could extend it ninety days, right.
I think he's definitely going to extend in ninety days
when he takes office. A lot of people will think
that it's saving TikTok, but that's actually not. It gives
them ninety days to sell TikTok, so it's not act
like it's just extending what they've already ruled on. Maybe

(58:11):
he gets enough goodwill to override it, maybe they pass
a lot to override it. I don't know how that
will go for sure, but I do think it is
funny if, because as Roy alluded to, I'm a smart voter,
there's a level of stupidity in our voter base that
will be like this guy who started this TikTok band,

(58:33):
he was the first guy on board and brought it
to fruition because during his term is when all this
shit was like, Hey, we need to ban this.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
China is coming. And then the TikTok dude that always
it met.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
With him and was like, nigga, we can get some
money together. And he was like, you know what, maybe
we don't need to ban it. He'll get the credit
for saving it from some people, the same way he
got credit for writing his name on those checks.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Which he delayed because he wanted to write his name
on them checks.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yeah, but it worked to some people still quote that
shit to this day, but he wrote them checks. And
I wonder if this will be similar where like he
saved TikTok. The bigger philosophical question to me, I've been
reading this book called Amusing Ourselves to Death, and the
bigger philosophical question than me is like, what does saving
TikTok really mean about the soul of the country and

(59:21):
the humanity and what is and what social media has done?
Because I think that's the part people aren't reckoning with
the fact that people are so addicted that they are
looking past the fact that Republicans and Democrats agree.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
In a time where they don't agree on shit.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
It is scary and I don't understand how people don't
see that that is scary. TikTok is really more about
selling people shit anyway, So it'll be fine. Like it's banned,
We're not the only country's banded, and it's banding. We're
joining a long list of countries that have banded. That
feel like it's a security threat and a bunch of
other shit. But I do understand the hypocrisy and conflict

(01:00:04):
that people live in because at the inauguration tomorrow, the
owner of Twitter and the owner of Facebook, we'll be
sitting right next to Jeff Bezos, the owner of Internet Connection.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
You know what Amazon like, it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Does feel like, Well, no, if it's the white man
telling y'all what videos to play and think in the algorithm,
that's different. Now that these Chinese people, we don't know them,
so we that's not okay. So I do understand people's trepidation.
But I really do think that the fact that someone's
vote would hinge on access to a social media platform

(01:00:41):
or not, and conflict that with like freedom of speech,
says something about what we've lost our faith and institutions,
our faith in the government doing the best thing for people.
Because this is the one time they agree and that
I'm old enough for that to be a big deal
to me, Like I don't have to understand it for
me to be like, wait, Nancy Pelosi AOC image.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
McConnell think this ship bad?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
So I do kind of relate to that. But yo, Roy,
thanks for coming man. We appreciate you, man the specially.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
For having me always. You know, I love chopping it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Yeah, anytime you love kicking it with you? Yeah, the
special outstanding dude. It's great work, so funny, it's so tight,
it's so smart, you know all the things that your
stuff always is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
But it's just and it's timely.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
It really is of a time where we need to
step back and look at the loneliness epidemic as a
certain general literally put it, and and like how we
come back together as society. So thanks for doing great work, man,
Tell the people.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
And thank y'all for not clowning me for as my
son said when I walked in here to record, thank
you for not clowning me for being dressed for outside inside.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Oh look you a father. You got a lot of
going on. Is that a big ball of brand cap?

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
I didn't know what.

Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
To be Birmingham Black Barons hate it. I hate that.
Don't have a baseball or something. So this is black history.
Not be condoning a nigga rapping in the regular season
of the NBA. Bro take some shots.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Like is that the ball?

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
Don't like it? It's a great song, it's fine, it's catchy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
Put that ship out after the playoffs. Don't get to
the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
He was at the Cowboys game.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
The Cowboys out.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Lions and then they lost. It's the tweaker curse. Well,
that's good to put this on to go to dunk
and I went and got some coffee. This ball just
never took it off. And then I looked at the
you know, and I was running late. Let me just
get in there. Why are you on TV with a
coat on? Ridiculous?

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Go watch Independence Day two, broy are.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
It's on Hulu streaming.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Are you touring anything? So if people want to watch
you anything like that? Are you taking a little bit?

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
No, I'm not. I'm taking a break right now. I
get them thirty cities. Have I got news for yous
back on CNN Saturday nights February fifteenth. But in the meantime,
just put my shit on Hulu and press play and
walk away. From the device.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Do it, but also watch it because this shit is good,
really good. All Right, we'll be back throughout the week.
I believe Tuesday's guest is Jail Covid. So thank y'all
for listening to everybody, but appreciate y'all until next time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
I love you. Why