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July 1, 2023 70 mins
In this episode Carlos and Lenny share their thoughts on Carnism Debunked's post which argues that vegans have an obligation to engage in activism. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- • Carlos' previous podcast Void Wave: https://www.youtube.com/@voidwave8845 • interview with Lenny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn8AupHN75E • Carlos' introduction on ExAN #1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzDYIIaM_V4 • Carnism Debunked: https://www.youtube.com/@CarnismDebunked • Carnism Debunked: Vegetarianism is the OPPOSITE of Veganism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZDPrMp8yf8 • Carnism Debunked: Why Just Being Vegan Isn't Enough: https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx9S46g7NFfTZ0Tos0fvZAPFKzsGU6WVs8 • Andrew McIntosh's "miserablist" approach to antinatalism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO0ABy9dfOE • Karim Akerma: Manifest zum Antinatalismus (English version: Antinatalist Manifesto) – [links to be added later] • Die Militante Veganerin's interview with Carnism Debunked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRYimSW62dk ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0:00:00 (intro) 0:00:42 Carlos' introduction 0:01:45 Lenny's introduction 0:04:40 what is Voidcast? 0:06:21 Carnism Debunked 0:08:32 Why Just Being Vegan Isn't Enough 0:10:45 criticising your own camp 0:13:25 Lenny's activism 0:15:12 utilitarianism 0:17:05 veganism, religion, and sin 0:20:36 utilitarianism (again) 0:21:34 vegan allies 0:23:54 prevalence of vegan activism 0:25:27 Carlos' activism (and fitness!) 0:28:22 we live in a society 0:29:45 fat and unhealthy vegans 0:31:54 antinatalist activism 0:33:26 Andrew McIntosh's "miserablist" approach to antinatalism 0:36:26 comparing vegan, antinatalist, and extincionist activism 0:38:52 (im)practicability of antinatalist activism 0:45:24 veganism and imperfection 0:46:32 post mortem impacts 0:49:26 different types of activism 0:54:28 comparing becoming vegan and becoming antinatalist 0:56:46 antinatalism, veganism, and indifference towards other people's decisions 0:59:24 life is pretty miserable ... 1:01:45 ... but Carlos is a happy antinatalist 1:04:40 wrap-up 1:09:19 (outro) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- music: TrackTribe – Lost At Sea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- contact us at veganvoidcast(at)protonmail.com
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