Episode 5: Voidcast #5 – Émile P. Torres: Human Extinction

In this episode Carlos and Lenny share their thoughts on the 2023 book "Human Extinction: A History of the Science and Ethics of Annihilation" by Émile P. Torres. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Voidcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/veganvoidcast Voidcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/veganvoidcast Voidcast email: [e-mail] Voidcast channel on the Vegan Antinatalist Club Discord server: https://discord.gg/VFkUJKJ2Wb ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Émile P. Torres' website: https://www.xriskology.com/ Émile P. Torres on Twitter: https://twitter.com/xriskology Émile P. Torres on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@emilep.torres2298  Émile P. Torres: "Human Extinction: A Brief Guided Tour of the Book" (Substack): https://xriskology.substack.com/p/human-extinction-a-brief-guided-tour  Émile P. Torres: "Human Extinction: A Brief Guided Tour of the Book" (Medium): https://xriskology.medium.com/human-extinction-a-brief-guided-tour-of-the-book-5cfb6a5a726 Émile P. Torres: "Human Extinction: A Brief Guided Tour of the Book" (audio version): https://youtu.be/zdxEaJtQiRE [...] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- our interview with Lawrence: https://youtu.be/r3Jb_RtUCPM Ps.-Diog. epist. 47: https://www.reddit.com/r/antinatalismus/comments/14abyr9/eine_antike_empfehlung_der_kinderlosigkeit_psdiog/ (English translation: Abraham J. Malherbe (ed.): The Cynic Epistles: A Study Edition. Missoula, MT: Scholars Press 1977. p. 179.) the myth of Mainländer's death: https://www.reddit.com/r/Mainlander/comments/16a4tv6/probable_source_of_the_myth_of_mainl%C3%A4nders/ optimistic extinctionism: https://youtu.be/e_sM_lDbd7k, https://youtu.be/jgU4ywqXoYw "Why wasn't Schopenhauer an outspoken antinatalist?": https://youtu.be/xn8AupHN75E?t=907 Andreas Nilssen Möss: "Why Antinatalists Should Stop Talking About the Red Button": https://youtu.be/uT9TuAAqa34 Lenny's Kurnig project: https://www.reddit.com/r/antinatalism/comments/wd268d/the_holy_grail_of_modern_antinatalism_unearthed/ Les U. Knight calling Kurnig the founder of VHEMT: https://youtu.be/P_3FeOSuj5A Lenny's introduction to Ulrich Horstmann's "Das Untier": https://www.reddit.com/r/antinatalismus/comments/yf3qjo/das_untier_konturen_einer_philosophie_der/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0:00:00 (intro) 0:01:33 fascination with the end of humanity 0:02:59 blurb 0:04:19 Émile P. Torres 0:05:25 antinatalism and extinctionism 0:07:03 terminology 0:10:57 structure of the book 0:15:20 1st Existential Mood 0:17:08 Ps.-Diog. epist. 47 0:19:42 2nd Existential Mood 0:20:45 Arthur Schopenhauer and the pessimists 0:22:11 Philipp Mainländer 0:27:34 Eduard von Hartmann 0:30:43 thoughts on pessimism and philosophy repeating itself 0:33:17 utilitarianism 0:37:01 negative utilitarianism 0:40:29 radical environmentalism and deep ecology 0:44:39 longtermism 0:53:03 transhumanism 0:54:17 Margaret Atwood: Oryx and Crake (spoilers) 0:55:11 science fiction and normative extinction 0:56:07 where is David Pearce (PBUH)? 0:56:41 David Benatar and contemporary antinatalism 0:58:30 antinatalists against human extinction 1:00:29 antinatalism and wild animal suffering 1:02:57 4th wave of Existential Ethics 1:04:00 Torres' own position 1:08:55 the future of thinking about human extinction 1:10:18 Lenny's additions 1:11:08 Kurnig 1:14:37 Ulrich Horstmann 1:21:00 the role of privilege 1:23:29 academic nitpicks 1:27:26 conclusion 1:29:39 (outro) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- intro / outro music: TrackTribe – Lost At Sea