Episode 6: Voidcast #6 – Solar Sands: Voluntary Extinction

In this episode Carlos and Lenny share their thoughts on the video essay "Voluntary Extinction" by @SolarSands.  Request by @shujaatdhar9324.  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- VOIDCAST LINKS: Voidcast Linktree: https://linktr.ee/veganvoidcast Voidcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/veganvoidcast Voidcast email: [e-mail] Voidcast channel on the Vegan Antinatalist Club Discord server: https://discord.gg/VFkUJKJ2Wb ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- LINKS: • @SolarSands: Voluntary Extinction: https://youtu.be/6O5S2Y4FhJ0 • "Judeo-Christian Antinatalism?" – guest lecture and discussion with Dr. Karim Akerma [+ subtitles]: https://youtu.be/Qs9S0qc3WzQ • David Benatar confirms he does not have children: https://www.wnyc.org/story/the-harm-of-coming-into-existence/ (at 8:42) • @Svankmajer: In Defense Of Depressive Realism: https://youtu.be/uQ8yxGYJ4rw • John discussing antinatalism with Muslims: https://youtu.be/2kO-enPxK0c, https://youtu.be/cs4Pplv6YT0 LITERATURE: – Théophile de Giraud: The Childfree Christ: Antinatalism in Early Christianity. Amazon 2021. – Karim Akerma: Antinatalismus: Ein Handbuch. epubli 2017 (5th ed. 2018), s.v. "Musikalisches Mä phynai (Niegeborensein): Queen (Freddy Mercury)", p. 442. – David Benatar: Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence. Oxford: Oxford University Press 2006, p. 196; pp. 70–73. – Julio Cabrera: Discomfort and Moral Impediment: The Human Situation, Radical Bioethics and Procreation. Newcastle upon Tyne: Cambridge Scholars Publishing 2019, p. 11, n. 3. – Michael Hauskeller: “Anti-natalism, Pollyannaism, and Asymmetry: A Defence of Cheery Optimism”, The Journal of Value Inquiry 56/1 (2022), 21–35. DOI: https://doi.org/10.1007/s10790-022-09884-8 (open access). – Théophile de Giraud: The Art of Guillotining Procreators: An Antinatalist Manifesto. Chapter VI: "The Right to Sue One's Parents". – Karim Akerma: op. cit., s.v. "Existenzgeld. Für ein bedingungsloses nativistisches Grundeinkommen", pp. 222–225. (English translation: Karim Akerma: Antinatalism: A Handbook, trans. Alexander Reynolds. epubli 2021, s.v. "“Existence Allowance”. For an Unconditional Nativistic Basic Income", pp. 186–192.) – Eduard von Hartmann: Philosophy of the Unconscious, trans. William Chatterton Coupland, vol. III, p. 129. – Hilan Bensusan / Julio Cabrera / Ana Miriam Wuensch: A moral do começo: sobre a ética do nascimento. Porto Alegre, RS: Editora Fi 2019, pp. 181–182. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 (intro) 01:41 Solar Sands' video 03:17 introduction: extinction and antinatalism 05:53 Solar Sands' approach to antinatalism 07:52 proto-antinatalist precedents 09:10 biblical antinatalism 13:02 antinatalism in popular culture 14:25 anti-procreative communities today 16:50 David Benatar 19:13 what is antinatalism? 21:58 the axiological asymmetry 23:45 the 'quality of life' argument 26:03 the Pollyanna principle 28:05 necessity of factory farming 29:32 procreative Ponzi scheme 30:51 r/antinatalism 34:39 bad arguments for antinatalism 38:15 bad arguments against antinatalism 40:02 antinatalism and religion 41:43 good arguments against antinatalism 43:47 Solar Sands' own counter-argument / Eduard von Hartmann's objection 49:17 problems in population ethics 50:17 antinatalism's logistical absurdity 51:45 merits of antinatalist philosophy 53:23 concluding thoughts on the video 56:58 (outro) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- intro / outro music: TrackTribe – Lost At Sea