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2News Heidi Hatch hosts an array of special guests as they talk about the issues most important to Utahns.
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September 25, 2026 • 61 mins
Heidi Hatch is joined by Maura Carabello with the Exoro Group and Rep. Ryan Wilcox, who sits on the Utah Legislative Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice Interim Committee.
The 158-page UVU campus-safety review following the Charlie Kirk shooting: staffing, coordination and accountability.
The Supreme Court allowing the Trump administration to use the SAVE database to check voter citizenship — and what it means for Uta...
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This week on the Take 2 podcast, Utah Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson joins Heidi Hatch to discuss Utah’s legal fight with the U.S. Department of Justice over access to voters’ unredacted personal information.
The interview was recorded Sept. 14, just hours before the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in the separate USPS case.
Henderson says the lawsuit will not affect Utah’s upcoming election.
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September 11, 2026 • 56 mins
Heidi Hatch joins Maura Carabello and former Utah State Auditor John Dougall to examine how America has changed in the 25 years since 9/11 and debate plans to memorialize Charlie Kirk at UVU. They also discuss Gov. Spencer Cox’s “Disagree Better” campaign, questions surrounding his growing national profile and a Justice Department lawsuit challenging Utah’s in-state tuition policy for undocumented immigrants...
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September 4, 2026 • 52 mins
Host: Heidi Hatch
Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group, and Doug Fiefia, Utah representative and Senate candidate
Utah Legislature dives into issues months before the session
To Flock or Not to Flock?
This week: Utah lawmaker to propose “parameters” for Flock cameras and ALPRs
Two months out from Election Day
President Trump on the campaign trail
Bears Ears and Grand Staircase protections
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August 28, 2026 • 52 mins
Take 2 Podcast
Host: Heidi Hatch
Guests: Maura Carabello and Adam Gardiner
Welcome back after the Take 2 summer break.
While we were taking a break -
Salt Lake City Mayor Erin Mendenhall’s divorce filing and whether she will run for reelection as Luz Escamilla enters the race.
Sen. Todd Weiler’s new role leading the Sutherland Institute.
Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante resized.
The co...
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Host: Heidi Hatch
Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group & Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz
Utah Legislative Primary Races
Lessons Learned, who will lead the Utah Senate
Wildfire Crisis in Utah
Fallen Firefighters
Three wildland firefighters killed on the Utah-Colorado border
Two additional firefighters seriously injured
Cottonwood Fire
More than 100 condos and 30 cabins destroyed at Eagle Point Resort
Dam...
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June 26, 2026 • 46 mins
Hosts:
Heidi Hatch
Maura Carabello, Exoro Group
Rob Axson, Utah GOP Chair (joining from Washington, D.C.)
Fire danger across Utah
Statewide fireworks restrictions and the new law allowing cities to designate safe discharge zones.
The Cottonwood Fire in Beaver County, now expected to become the costliest wildfire in Utah history.
Gov. Spencer Cox's comments on the destruction.
Looking ahead to the dangerous ...
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June 19, 2026 • 52 mins
HOST: Heidi HatchGUESTS: Maura Carabello, John Dougall
ICE plans to sell warehouse facilities in Salt Lake, six other cities moving back to existing detention space
“From day one, DHS has remained singularly focused on removing the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens from the United States and is always evaluating the best methods to do so. These heinous criminals, once arrested, should be removed at lightning speed,...
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June 12, 2026 • 60 mins
THE POLITICS OF FIRE
Fires in Utah in full swing this week
Tooele County, multiple fires, arson arrest
SLC Capitol Hill Fire - State says started by homeless, City says they don’t know
Mike Lee ignites controversy after adding roadless rule repeal to a wildfire bill
13-year-old girl dies at Pineview after dead tree falls: Would Pineview Reservoir be safer if it were a state park? Not US Forest Service land
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June 5, 2026 • 55 mins
Host: Heidi Hatch
Guests: Maura Carabello, Rep. Cal Roberts
Gov. Spencer Cox declared June "Fidelity Month in Utah."
In his declaration, Cox said that American support for traditional values has "significantly declined." "A majority of Americans no longer esteem values like faith, family, patriotism or community involvement," he continued. He said it is "imperative" that Utah's "recommit" themselves to the pursui...
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May 15, 2026 • 61 mins
Heidi Hatch 2 News
Maura Carabello, Exoro Group
Mike Schultz, Utah House Speaker
Data Center Referendum: A Box Elder County group wants voters there to decide proposed data center’s fate
Elevate Utah accuses Speaker Mike Schultz of buying up property to profit off data Center
Schultz, a cattle rancher in Box Elder and neighboring counties, responds
Forget about 2026, everyone is talking 2...
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Host: Heidi Hatch
Guests: Marua Carabello, Rep. Cal Roberts
BREAKING: Utah Supreme Court Justice Diana Hagen resigns amid conflict-of-interest allegations in Prop 4 case
Data Center passes Box Elder Commission vote 3-0
Better Utah calls for investigation into Senate Pres. Stuart Adams after donations to his PAC- but have no proof of wrongdoing
Questions over lawmakers benefiting from Data ...
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Host: Heidi Hatch
Guests: Maura Carabello (Exoro Group), Thomas Wright (Former Utah GOP Chair, 2020 Gubernatorial Candidate, Real estate broker)
White House correspondents’ dinner attempted assassination
Utah Box Elder County Data Center
Governor Cox: Utah and other states have an obligation to "allow" the sprawling facilities. "There is a national security piece to this that has to be acknowledged," Cox said in res...
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April 24, 2026 • 25 mins
Host: Heidi HatchGuest: Morgan Lyon Cotti Associate Director Hinckley Institute of Politics
Conventions this weekend Delegates pick their candidates
Inner party battles front and center
Democrats now have 4 qualified candidates through signatures from the new Utah CD1 race
2 candidates facing accusation of wrongdoing
Nate Blouin, Eval Lopez Chavez
Republicans have an inner party fight in Utah CD3
Rep Celeste Maloy q...
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April 17, 2026 • 61 mins
Host: Heidi HatchGusts: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group & Nic Dunn, Sutherland Institute
Utah Supreme Court justice faces allegations of impropriety in Prop 4 case
In 2025, the Beehive Family earned $123,716 and paid $34,482 in taxes, about 28% of household income. That breaks down to nearly 2½ hours of every workday spent paying taxes
UVU commencement speaker Sharon McMahon cancels
Nate Blouin makes national he...
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Take 2 Podcast, Friday, April 10, 2026
Heidi Hatch with Maura Carabello of Exoro Group and Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz.
Vice President JD Vance is set to lead ceasefire talks this weekend, as tensions tied to a potential conflict with Iran continue. There are ongoing questions about whether a ceasefire will hold and if the Strait of Hormuz will remain open.
Gas prices in Utah are now higher than the national average, $4...
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April 3, 2026 • 56 mins
Host: Heidi Hatch
Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group & Carolyn Phippen, Political Advisor
CD1: Democrats try new tactic to win House seat in Utah, running as progressives in red state
Open Primary: Who will it favor?
DATA FOR PROGRESS INTERNAL POLL RESULTS dfp_ut01_memo_crosstabs.pdf
Signatures for D1 Blouin and McAdams will both be in the primary
CD2: House Speaker Mike Johnson and Jim Jord...
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Take 2 Podcast March 27
Heidi Hatch
Maura Carabello Exoro Group
Rep Ryan Wilcox Utah Legislature
Repeal Prop 4 dies in Senate District 15 with signature removals
Trump signs emergency order to pay TSA agents as Congress struggles to reach funding deal
SLC Mayor Mendenhall: No water for ICE facility
Governor Cox vetoes:
HB462: Gov. Spencer Cox vetoes bill providing internet service on Utah&r...
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March 20, 2026 • 38 mins
Host: Heidi Hatch
Maura Carabello Exoro Group
John Dougall Former State Auditor
Utah Caucus night
Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz endorses Karianne Lisonbee against incumbent Congressman Blake Moore
Prop 4 Repeal Update – Senator Riebe District within striking distance for Better Boundaries 102 signatures beyond requirement
ICE warehouse SLC spurs protests and condemnation from SLC a...
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March 12, 2026 • 60 mins
Host: Heidi Hatch
Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group • Rob Axson, Utah GOP Chair
Utah Legislative Session
Sen. Adams kills bill passed seconds after midnight
Last-minute signature removal law passed
Utahns for Representative Government gets signatures to put repeal of Prop 4 on the ballot
The petition to repeal Utah Proposition 4 ended up with nearly 166,000 verified signatures.
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