April 17, 2018 • 15 mins
We had an open conversation about how we all have become more ADDICTED to our phones! Danielle's mom met The POPE but didn't have her phone.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What would you talk about on your on your podcast
Firms Represents show? Did you know this is our one
fifteen minute morning show podcast. It's not. You're right, it's not.
Let's celebrate anyway in the Buddhist celebrate. So around the
(00:24):
fifteen minute morning show podcast table, in our fifteen minute
morning show podcast studio, we've got Scary Hello, We've got
Dave Brody. Hello, we have Garrett, we have Danielle straightening,
and yours truly, So what would you talk about if
you had a fifteen minute morning show? Oh my gosh,
the floor recognizes Dave Brody. Go. Well, there was a
court case this week that I found very interesting. But
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in that court case, a highly publicized there was some
breaking news, some shocking news, and the reporters all had
to turn in their phones before they went into the courtroom,
not expecting any shocking news. So when the shocking news
and there was nothing they could do about it, so
they all talked about that night how they were torn
between running back out to the lobby to get their
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phones and text about it and tell their bosses and
get it and print, or stay there for more shocking news.
And I started thinking those times in my life where
something happened and they didn't have my phone with me,
and I was going crazy, like scary would do when
you want to. So just yesterday, my two dogs are
on the couch and they were cuddled together, and I
wanted to take their picture like I always do, and
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I didn't have my phone. And when I take their picture,
they always move, I never get the picture. So by
not having my phone, they stayed there and I could
stare at them and look at them being cute, and
they didn't ruin the moment. Huh. And I thought about
that because of the court case about those newspeople not
having their phones, and I thought, this is actually a
good thing. My mom just said the same thing to me,
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because I was telling you before. She was just in
Italy at the Vatican right and the she was going
to see the Pope with thousands of people, but she
was in the bathroom and the bathroom line was half
an hour. She left her phone own with my dad.
So she comes out of the bathroom and they stopped
her and they go, we're sorry, you can't go any
further because the Pope's about to come, and she said,
no, no no, the Pope doesn't come for an hour, No
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Pope's coming early. She's standing there with a woman and
her baby. The Pope decides that the woman standing next
to my mom is the baby that he's gonna kiss.
He grabs the baby from this woman, kisses the baby,
and now my mom is there in this moment. The
baby's crying, she's trying to help the woman with the
pacifier in the mouth. The mom's crying because the pope
cast their kid. It's a whole big thing. And my
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mom said, if I had stopped to take a picture,
I would have lost that moment because I wouldn't have
been in the moment and appreciating it because I would
have tried to take a picture of it. So let
me give you a taste of historical, uh perspective shift.
All right, Back when mobile phones, when cell phones first
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came out, when you had your new cell phone with you,
you've felt that extra buzz. You're like, oh, I'm really
in connection with people in the world. I can I
can call people from my big suitcase phone, the phone
that weighs twenty five pounds. And so when you were
when you didn't have your phone with you back then,
you were back to normal. Today is the shifting of
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it's it's shifted to an opposite where Today, if you
are without your phone, then your paid, your your your
pulse races. You feel like there's a part of your
body missing. You can't reach out immediately and tell them
about about the court case. You just learned something about it.
You can't immediately take a picture of your dogs curled
up or the Pope. Oh my god, here's the question.
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If your mother met the Pope, did it happen? If
no one took a picture of I know what's scary
would say that it didn't. But my mom says, I
see it every moment. I can picture it. I grabbed him.
I can see it in front of me like it
was just five minutes ago. I know what happened, and
that's the most important thing. It's fascinating how I feel
the opposite notion of what your mom felt. As soon
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as you were describing you was describing that story, I'm saying,
they're like, oh my god, her, poor mom, she missed
out on the photo of a life toime mom touched
the Pope. I know, I can't help it. I mean,
he's all holier than now. Sary, what filter would you
have used I don't know, not Vatican, Vatican. I think
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maybe Rio de Janeiro or something. But you know, I
will tell you that I've left home many occasions, paid
a toll to come through the tunnel. I forgot my
phone and then went back home, double backed to my
apartment to get my phone because I knew that I
was going to be without it for the next eight hours,
and I didn't mind paying a double toll to go
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through the tunnel back again in time. You don't you
don't mind. I don't want to spend the time with
the money. Well, I will tell you this past weekend
there were three situations. I know, we're talking like it's
a monumental thing and it's really stupid. There are three
situations this weekend where I was without my phone. Once
it was the battery was dead and we had to
leave house and Scrooge leaving at home, but I knew
that I was with Alex he had his phone. Another
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time we went out, I was like, do you need
your phone? I don't need my phone. We'll go out
for a walk with a dog, a fifteen minute walk.
But I still felt a little, a little sweaty palms
leaving the house without my phone. There was another time too,
and you know what, it's just but once you do it,
you realize it wasn't really all that bad. We really
are conditioned to freak out without our phones. Yeah. I
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had that moment last night because I left my phone
in the apartment. I went to the gym, I worked out,
and I got back and I saw you had texted me,
like a damn it. I missed something important and it
really wasn't that important. No, it's it's never that important,
you know. That's another thing I'm loving about watching mad
Men because you see how they lived back in nineteen
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sixty where, you know, they didn't have phones. I mean,
they didn't have cell phones. And the thing is they
were fine. They got through life just fine. They didn't
they didn't know any other one. So did we before
we had this, But now we had this, we have this.
You had adopted anytimes I'm sitting, dude, I was in
a casino a couple of weeks ago, and I was
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sitting at a blackjack table and you're not allowed to
take out your phone while you're playing in the middle
of a shoe, right, So I'm sitting there and I
feel a buzz at my leg. I'm like, oh God, okay,
I'm just gonna keep going, A buzz at my leg.
Here we go again. My phone keeps vibrating, like, what's
going on? Who's sending me messages? I could not wait.
I didn't care if I want to lost money at
that point, I just wanted to get up from the table,
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to pull back and look at my phone. Yeah, I
have a problem. Okay, So Nate, while you're telling the story,
Nate's phone buzzes, wait hard, he looks at his phone
and walks out of the room, so that that call
is more important than us right now, obviously. But you know,
I've been I've been out with Scary, and it's not
fun when Scary has his phone. So we went to
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a party. The Jersey shorecast was there. Scary did not
put his phone down for the entire three hours when
we were together. I hung out with Scary's girlfriend, I
hung out with my wife, and I hung out with
Scary's phone own Scary. Scary lived the party through his phone. Now,
I will say I was like Scary at one point
in my life until two instances where my phone was
taken away from me. When I went to a justin
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Timberlake party where he put a phone in the lock bag,
and it made me experience what was going on in
front of me. Now, given I have to tell the
story that I met justin timber Lake, I can't show
you on my phone that I took a picture with him,
but the memory is there. And then when I went
to go see Dave Chappelle again Dave Chappelle, normally you
go to a concert, that's all you see is people screens,
and everyone watching the show through the screen, phones away.
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Everyone is in, everyone's locked into Dave Chappelle. And I
think I enjoyed it even more you do. That's the
thing we'll hold on. So Nate just got back. We
just talked about how you saw your phone buzz or
felt it. Then you left the room in the middle
of a conversation about phones are taking over our lives.
I thought it was I thought it was somebody that
we're trying to book an artist with, but it wasn't.
(07:55):
It was my tax person. So get my taxes done.
That is important. That is important, more important than the
fifteen minute morning show podcast. We paid your money, so
you can pay your tax all right, Fair enough? What
is we This is not a new conversation. We've been
addicted to our phones for many years now. But this
lock bag situation, when we did these lock backs up
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at this at the at the show, the morning show,
after the Deep Chappelle concert, you guys brought the lock
bag company up and we locked our phones up for
four hours. Now, you were not having that. I was
freaking out. Man. By the way, when when Scary puts
the word v's in front of it, he doesn't like it,
like these meatballs entire like these lock bags today that
they're putting the phones in. It's a way of separating
from something like we we were organizing some shelves and
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some toys this past weekend and we found an old
check checkers and chess set we hadn't used in a while.
And my daughter says, you know, I brought you that
for Father's Day like five years ago. We still haven't
played checkers. I still how about Friday we played checkers?
She says, Okay. One rule I said, watch was you
have to leave your phone upstairs. No phones. Wait, your
daughter told you that. See, I thought it would be
the opposite. She knows she has a phone problem, but
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she's going to leave the phone upstairs, but she was
worried I would be distracted by my phone. She said,
I'll play with you, but you have to leave the
phone upstairs and I'll leave mine upstairs. Brodie, why is
it so we are tuned into the fact that we
go nuts without our phones. I mean we acknowledge it.
We we we we know that sometimes we do get
a little anxious for separate I got to text messages
(09:25):
during this podcast. I haven't checked them. You're thinking about them.
I did think about, like, who is it, what do
they need? And is it time sensitive? But this is
more important, so I kind of in in doing this.
I feel pretty good about not going for it. But
it's on your mind. We're talking about it. Yeah, it's
bothering me. I know it's going to vibrate again to
let me know I missed the text. I just felt
mind vibrate too. But I'm just it's looking. I mean,
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it's right in front of me on my desk, but
it's like the grass is greener on the other side.
Theory that you think that text message is more important
than anything else that we are doing right this second,
I don't think it's always that for the most part, Well, Garrett,
I think it's it's we multitask. I mean we It's look,
if I'm in a roomful of people, I'm bored with. Yeah,
whatever comes through, even if it's a weather forecast that's
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more rhone that grass is greener. I totally agree with you.
But typically it's like, well, we can do both. We
we we believe we can be just as effect of
doing thirty things as we would be doing just one,
which I think is not correct. I'm the opposite. I don't.
I could leave it in the other room and go
away and come back three hours later. And when I
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take a nap in the afternoon, when I get a
chance to I laugh at how much it goes off
and I don't even have paid attention to it. And
then I get up and there's like ten text messages
like Hey, just checking in, you need this, Oh, Hey,
trying to get you. Hell, Hello, are you there? And
I'm just like I was napping you and Garrett and
Brody you have kids, so I could I can see
why you do want to stay closer to notifications from
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loved ones just in case. But even if God forbid,
something happened and one of your kids was rushed to
the hospital. They're gonna find a way to get in
touch with you. They'll they'll text me, they'll text someone.
You know that. If people see that I haven't posted
on my instant story or snap, I think you're dead
a couple of days, Yeah, they're like scary, are you sick?
Are you okay? And I'm the opposite. I go, oh
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my gosh, I better put something up because I haven't
put something up in two days. I guess I should
put something. You feel the need to, like you feel
like pressure, No, I feel like if I don't, you know,
you gotta put something, So let me find something to put.
Sometimes that have lots to put in your kittens. You
always go after the camp now because the cats are
kittens are good. And again I say what I said earlier,
you're whatever you post is just a split second of
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a perfect moment in your life, typically unless you know
you broke something and took a picture of it. But
you know what my thought is this, think about this
more universally, like what is this doing to us? Our heads,
our brains, are heart rate, our health. What is it
doing to us when we are so so so plugged
into so many things at one time, Like right now
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we're talking, we're doing this, we have phones ringing and
buzzing and running around laptop names. He doesn't say anything
during the podcast. She sits there essentially work all day.
We work all day. I know, I get home and
I still have work to do. And I've been trying
to do a better job of leaving that when I
when I leave the office. But it's hard. You wanted
this job. I wouldn't open that, by the way, She
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did say that past tense, I have found and in
the years where I was most into my phone, which
is probably the past four to five years, right, being
a constant contact with people for different reasons whatever, Uh,
I have found that I cannot complete sentences as easily.
I forget names of friends, I forget facts of stories
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I read. I speak in emoji. I speak in emoji.
And so I mean, there's only so much your brain
can do. There's only so much, and we push it
to the limit every day with these phones. And your
phone has become your external brain because whatever you you do,
you depend on your phone to just pick up the
pieces and fill in the blanks for you. Have you
guys done anything different on the weekend. For me, I
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have a Saturday challenge because I like to roll out
of bed late on Saturday. My kids let me sleep
like this, Like, what's your example. I get out of bed,
let's say ten thirty, eleven o'clock. I try to sleep
really late because of our hours, and I won't touch
the phone until at least an hour after I get up.
And it's it was really difficult the first few weekends,
but I'm getting a little better at it. I feel
like I'm like at an a a meeting where like
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like I really feel like i'd addict with my phone,
and that hour is is getting a little bit easier.
But I don't want to just wake up out of
bed and then not see what's going on in the
house and my kids are doing stuff, So you have
to consciously say I'm going to do this, this is
my thing. Yeah, and it's it's it's I had to
build up, like, okay, fifteen minutes and I was shaking.
I think if I had kids, I would have more
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of a weekend ritual. I'm just assuming that. I don't
know why that my kids are old enough to have
their own rituals. Now so they do things on their own.
One of them drives and but but for me, I
I really just needed to not get out of bed
and just like, oh, I'm awake, I need to look
at my phone. No, I need to go down to
have breakfast. My ritual is sleeping with my phone. Sleep
with your phone's it's my alarm. I mean it's next
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to the bed. You spoon your phone. It's got to
be on the pillow case next to me. Did you
see what Barbara Corkran does. She was always like waking
up in the middle of the night and taking a
sip of water then looking at her phone, and she
couldn't sleep. It would she'd have to think about answering
email and text or whatever. She now leaves her phone
in the other room and she uses an old, old
school alarm clock to wake her up in the morning.
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She says, I don't rely on my phone because it's
too close. I need separation. Samsung just came out with
a new phone, the Galaxy twelve Pro, which is going
to have the ability not to access data so you
don't have the Internet. Well, then the thing is is
if you look at your phone and go, oh, it's
non accessing data. Then it makes your it makes you
think about it, but your butt right and change put
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in another room. We really are way too connected to
these stupid things. Fifteen minute morning show off
What would you talk about on your on your podcast
Firms Represents show? Did you know this is our one
fifteen minute morning show podcast. It's not. You're right, it's not.
Let's celebrate anyway in the Buddhist celebrate. So around the
(00:24):
fifteen minute morning show podcast table, in our fifteen minute
morning show podcast studio, we've got Scary Hello, We've got
Dave Brody. Hello, we have Garrett, we have Danielle straightening,
and yours truly, So what would you talk about if
you had a fifteen minute morning show? Oh my gosh,
the floor recognizes Dave Brody. Go. Well, there was a
court case this week that I found very interesting. But
(00:46):
in that court case, a highly publicized there was some
breaking news, some shocking news, and the reporters all had
to turn in their phones before they went into the courtroom,
not expecting any shocking news. So when the shocking news
and there was nothing they could do about it, so
they all talked about that night how they were torn
between running back out to the lobby to get their
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phones and text about it and tell their bosses and
get it and print, or stay there for more shocking news.
And I started thinking those times in my life where
something happened and they didn't have my phone with me,
and I was going crazy, like scary would do when
you want to. So just yesterday, my two dogs are
on the couch and they were cuddled together, and I
wanted to take their picture like I always do, and
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I didn't have my phone. And when I take their picture,
they always move, I never get the picture. So by
not having my phone, they stayed there and I could
stare at them and look at them being cute, and
they didn't ruin the moment. Huh. And I thought about
that because of the court case about those newspeople not
having their phones, and I thought, this is actually a
good thing. My mom just said the same thing to me,
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because I was telling you before. She was just in
Italy at the Vatican right and the she was going
to see the Pope with thousands of people, but she
was in the bathroom and the bathroom line was half
an hour. She left her phone own with my dad.
So she comes out of the bathroom and they stopped
her and they go, we're sorry, you can't go any
further because the Pope's about to come, and she said,
no, no no, the Pope doesn't come for an hour, No
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Pope's coming early. She's standing there with a woman and
her baby. The Pope decides that the woman standing next
to my mom is the baby that he's gonna kiss.
He grabs the baby from this woman, kisses the baby,
and now my mom is there in this moment. The
baby's crying, she's trying to help the woman with the
pacifier in the mouth. The mom's crying because the pope
cast their kid. It's a whole big thing. And my
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mom said, if I had stopped to take a picture,
I would have lost that moment because I wouldn't have
been in the moment and appreciating it because I would
have tried to take a picture of it. So let
me give you a taste of historical, uh perspective shift.
All right, Back when mobile phones, when cell phones first
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came out, when you had your new cell phone with you,
you've felt that extra buzz. You're like, oh, I'm really
in connection with people in the world. I can I
can call people from my big suitcase phone, the phone
that weighs twenty five pounds. And so when you were
when you didn't have your phone with you back then,
you were back to normal. Today is the shifting of
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it's it's shifted to an opposite where Today, if you
are without your phone, then your paid, your your your
pulse races. You feel like there's a part of your
body missing. You can't reach out immediately and tell them
about about the court case. You just learned something about it.
You can't immediately take a picture of your dogs curled
up or the Pope. Oh my god, here's the question.
(03:36):
If your mother met the Pope, did it happen? If
no one took a picture of I know what's scary
would say that it didn't. But my mom says, I
see it every moment. I can picture it. I grabbed him.
I can see it in front of me like it
was just five minutes ago. I know what happened, and
that's the most important thing. It's fascinating how I feel
the opposite notion of what your mom felt. As soon
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as you were describing you was describing that story, I'm saying,
they're like, oh my god, her, poor mom, she missed
out on the photo of a life toime mom touched
the Pope. I know, I can't help it. I mean,
he's all holier than now. Sary, what filter would you
have used I don't know, not Vatican, Vatican. I think
(04:22):
maybe Rio de Janeiro or something. But you know, I
will tell you that I've left home many occasions, paid
a toll to come through the tunnel. I forgot my
phone and then went back home, double backed to my
apartment to get my phone because I knew that I
was going to be without it for the next eight hours,
and I didn't mind paying a double toll to go
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through the tunnel back again in time. You don't you
don't mind. I don't want to spend the time with
the money. Well, I will tell you this past weekend
there were three situations. I know, we're talking like it's
a monumental thing and it's really stupid. There are three
situations this weekend where I was without my phone. Once
it was the battery was dead and we had to
leave house and Scrooge leaving at home, but I knew
that I was with Alex he had his phone. Another
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time we went out, I was like, do you need
your phone? I don't need my phone. We'll go out
for a walk with a dog, a fifteen minute walk.
But I still felt a little, a little sweaty palms
leaving the house without my phone. There was another time too,
and you know what, it's just but once you do it,
you realize it wasn't really all that bad. We really
are conditioned to freak out without our phones. Yeah. I
(05:25):
had that moment last night because I left my phone
in the apartment. I went to the gym, I worked out,
and I got back and I saw you had texted me,
like a damn it. I missed something important and it
really wasn't that important. No, it's it's never that important,
you know. That's another thing I'm loving about watching mad
Men because you see how they lived back in nineteen
(05:46):
sixty where, you know, they didn't have phones. I mean,
they didn't have cell phones. And the thing is they
were fine. They got through life just fine. They didn't
they didn't know any other one. So did we before
we had this, But now we had this, we have this.
You had adopted anytimes I'm sitting, dude, I was in
a casino a couple of weeks ago, and I was
(06:06):
sitting at a blackjack table and you're not allowed to
take out your phone while you're playing in the middle
of a shoe, right, So I'm sitting there and I
feel a buzz at my leg. I'm like, oh God, okay,
I'm just gonna keep going, A buzz at my leg.
Here we go again. My phone keeps vibrating, like, what's
going on? Who's sending me messages? I could not wait.
I didn't care if I want to lost money at
that point, I just wanted to get up from the table,
(06:29):
to pull back and look at my phone. Yeah, I
have a problem. Okay, So Nate, while you're telling the story,
Nate's phone buzzes, wait hard, he looks at his phone
and walks out of the room, so that that call
is more important than us right now, obviously. But you know,
I've been I've been out with Scary, and it's not
fun when Scary has his phone. So we went to
(06:49):
a party. The Jersey shorecast was there. Scary did not
put his phone down for the entire three hours when
we were together. I hung out with Scary's girlfriend, I
hung out with my wife, and I hung out with
Scary's phone own Scary. Scary lived the party through his phone. Now,
I will say I was like Scary at one point
in my life until two instances where my phone was
taken away from me. When I went to a justin
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Timberlake party where he put a phone in the lock bag,
and it made me experience what was going on in
front of me. Now, given I have to tell the
story that I met justin timber Lake, I can't show
you on my phone that I took a picture with him,
but the memory is there. And then when I went
to go see Dave Chappelle again Dave Chappelle, normally you
go to a concert, that's all you see is people screens,
and everyone watching the show through the screen, phones away.
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Everyone is in, everyone's locked into Dave Chappelle. And I
think I enjoyed it even more you do. That's the
thing we'll hold on. So Nate just got back. We
just talked about how you saw your phone buzz or
felt it. Then you left the room in the middle
of a conversation about phones are taking over our lives.
I thought it was I thought it was somebody that
we're trying to book an artist with, but it wasn't.
(07:55):
It was my tax person. So get my taxes done.
That is important. That is important, more important than the
fifteen minute morning show podcast. We paid your money, so
you can pay your tax all right, Fair enough? What
is we This is not a new conversation. We've been
addicted to our phones for many years now. But this
lock bag situation, when we did these lock backs up
(08:16):
at this at the at the show, the morning show,
after the Deep Chappelle concert, you guys brought the lock
bag company up and we locked our phones up for
four hours. Now, you were not having that. I was
freaking out. Man. By the way, when when Scary puts
the word v's in front of it, he doesn't like it,
like these meatballs entire like these lock bags today that
they're putting the phones in. It's a way of separating
from something like we we were organizing some shelves and
(08:39):
some toys this past weekend and we found an old
check checkers and chess set we hadn't used in a while.
And my daughter says, you know, I brought you that
for Father's Day like five years ago. We still haven't
played checkers. I still how about Friday we played checkers?
She says, Okay. One rule I said, watch was you
have to leave your phone upstairs. No phones. Wait, your
daughter told you that. See, I thought it would be
the opposite. She knows she has a phone problem, but
(09:01):
she's going to leave the phone upstairs, but she was
worried I would be distracted by my phone. She said,
I'll play with you, but you have to leave the
phone upstairs and I'll leave mine upstairs. Brodie, why is
it so we are tuned into the fact that we
go nuts without our phones. I mean we acknowledge it.
We we we we know that sometimes we do get
a little anxious for separate I got to text messages
(09:25):
during this podcast. I haven't checked them. You're thinking about them.
I did think about, like, who is it, what do
they need? And is it time sensitive? But this is
more important, so I kind of in in doing this.
I feel pretty good about not going for it. But
it's on your mind. We're talking about it. Yeah, it's
bothering me. I know it's going to vibrate again to
let me know I missed the text. I just felt
mind vibrate too. But I'm just it's looking. I mean,
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it's right in front of me on my desk, but
it's like the grass is greener on the other side.
Theory that you think that text message is more important
than anything else that we are doing right this second,
I don't think it's always that for the most part, Well, Garrett,
I think it's it's we multitask. I mean we It's look,
if I'm in a roomful of people, I'm bored with. Yeah,
whatever comes through, even if it's a weather forecast that's
(10:08):
more rhone that grass is greener. I totally agree with you.
But typically it's like, well, we can do both. We
we we believe we can be just as effect of
doing thirty things as we would be doing just one,
which I think is not correct. I'm the opposite. I don't.
I could leave it in the other room and go
away and come back three hours later. And when I
(10:30):
take a nap in the afternoon, when I get a
chance to I laugh at how much it goes off
and I don't even have paid attention to it. And
then I get up and there's like ten text messages
like Hey, just checking in, you need this, Oh, Hey,
trying to get you. Hell, Hello, are you there? And
I'm just like I was napping you and Garrett and
Brody you have kids, so I could I can see
why you do want to stay closer to notifications from
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loved ones just in case. But even if God forbid,
something happened and one of your kids was rushed to
the hospital. They're gonna find a way to get in
touch with you. They'll they'll text me, they'll text someone.
You know that. If people see that I haven't posted
on my instant story or snap, I think you're dead
a couple of days, Yeah, they're like scary, are you sick?
Are you okay? And I'm the opposite. I go, oh
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my gosh, I better put something up because I haven't
put something up in two days. I guess I should
put something. You feel the need to, like you feel
like pressure, No, I feel like if I don't, you know,
you gotta put something, So let me find something to put.
Sometimes that have lots to put in your kittens. You
always go after the camp now because the cats are
kittens are good. And again I say what I said earlier,
you're whatever you post is just a split second of
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a perfect moment in your life, typically unless you know
you broke something and took a picture of it. But
you know what my thought is this, think about this
more universally, like what is this doing to us? Our heads,
our brains, are heart rate, our health. What is it
doing to us when we are so so so plugged
into so many things at one time, Like right now
(11:58):
we're talking, we're doing this, we have phones ringing and
buzzing and running around laptop names. He doesn't say anything
during the podcast. She sits there essentially work all day.
We work all day. I know, I get home and
I still have work to do. And I've been trying
to do a better job of leaving that when I
when I leave the office. But it's hard. You wanted
this job. I wouldn't open that, by the way, She
(12:23):
did say that past tense, I have found and in
the years where I was most into my phone, which
is probably the past four to five years, right, being
a constant contact with people for different reasons whatever, Uh,
I have found that I cannot complete sentences as easily.
I forget names of friends, I forget facts of stories
(12:47):
I read. I speak in emoji. I speak in emoji.
And so I mean, there's only so much your brain
can do. There's only so much, and we push it
to the limit every day with these phones. And your
phone has become your external brain because whatever you you do,
you depend on your phone to just pick up the
pieces and fill in the blanks for you. Have you
guys done anything different on the weekend. For me, I
(13:08):
have a Saturday challenge because I like to roll out
of bed late on Saturday. My kids let me sleep
like this, Like, what's your example. I get out of bed,
let's say ten thirty, eleven o'clock. I try to sleep
really late because of our hours, and I won't touch
the phone until at least an hour after I get up.
And it's it was really difficult the first few weekends,
but I'm getting a little better at it. I feel
like I'm like at an a a meeting where like
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like I really feel like i'd addict with my phone,
and that hour is is getting a little bit easier.
But I don't want to just wake up out of
bed and then not see what's going on in the
house and my kids are doing stuff, So you have
to consciously say I'm going to do this, this is
my thing. Yeah, and it's it's it's I had to
build up, like, okay, fifteen minutes and I was shaking.
I think if I had kids, I would have more
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of a weekend ritual. I'm just assuming that. I don't
know why that my kids are old enough to have
their own rituals. Now so they do things on their own.
One of them drives and but but for me, I
I really just needed to not get out of bed
and just like, oh, I'm awake, I need to look
at my phone. No, I need to go down to
have breakfast. My ritual is sleeping with my phone. Sleep
with your phone's it's my alarm. I mean it's next
(14:11):
to the bed. You spoon your phone. It's got to
be on the pillow case next to me. Did you
see what Barbara Corkran does. She was always like waking
up in the middle of the night and taking a
sip of water then looking at her phone, and she
couldn't sleep. It would she'd have to think about answering
email and text or whatever. She now leaves her phone
in the other room and she uses an old, old
school alarm clock to wake her up in the morning.
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She says, I don't rely on my phone because it's
too close. I need separation. Samsung just came out with
a new phone, the Galaxy twelve Pro, which is going
to have the ability not to access data so you
don't have the Internet. Well, then the thing is is
if you look at your phone and go, oh, it's
non accessing data. Then it makes your it makes you
think about it, but your butt right and change put
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in another room. We really are way too connected to
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