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Elvis had a question about prenups based off of Justin Bieber and Hailey Baldwin.

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What would you talk about on your on your podcast?
Firm elpresents show? All right, so we sort of new

(01:34):
about a week and a half ago. Uh, Justin Bieber
was married in a very like a civil ceremony down
at City Hall, just a few blocks from where we're
sitting right now in downtown Manhattan. So it's coming out
today that they got married without a pre nuptual agreement.
But I didn't realize, and Elvis told me that you

(01:55):
could actually get a what do you call a post
nut postnuption. I had no idea you could do. I thought,
once she's said and done, it's said and done. Well,
I'm sure you could try to fight it. Let let's
say they get married. It's a Haley Baldwin, right, So
Justin Bieber and Haley Baldwin get married, and then three
days later he's like, wait a minute. I don't want
to give up half my fortune if she excuse me
for divorce. I think you're still freshened to the wedding

(02:19):
and into the marriage. I'm I'm sure a judge you
could say, Okay, let's let's go ahead and work this out.
All right, Yeah, I think you're right. So let's talk
about prenuptial agreements around the table for the fifty minute
morning show podcast is Gandhi. Hello, thank you for being
the only one to class. I'll whistle. Also, our buddy
from Why one in Miami, Frank p is here, day

(02:40):
number two. Let's find let's find out how dirty his
white shoes are in New York City. Dave Brody from
the Brooklyn Boys podcast starting starring Brody and Scaring. And
there's a great tea, the roundheaded fret boy who's still
oozing from his lipos section. Yeah, it's it's tight, it's
not things are coming out of me. All right. With

(03:05):
that said, let's go to Garrett. Yes, he's a good American.
Garrett's here. There's Scary Jones from the Brooklyn Boys podcast
starring Brody and Scary. And there's wait, Danielle. Right, but
if I say Brody and scary. Would you say scary?
And Brodie said? And from the from the book down Bronx,

(03:26):
danielle manarrow everyone, And of course here to keep things
festive is Nate. What are you pulling out of your ear?
I don't have any cute tips. I love tips. Okay,
so let's talk about let's talk about prenuptial agreements or
a prenup. Let's say you're about to get married and
you know you have let's say, ten dollars in the bank,

(03:48):
money that you earned on your own without the help
of the person that you're marrying. Do you want to
sign something that says, well, you know, they're not only
if we divorce, are they not able to get that
from me? But they're also not going to take money
that I earned while we're married. Yes, okay, I'm not
a fan of it personally. Agreement. I get what it does,

(04:10):
and it's it's great to protect yourself. But you go
into a marriage though, making a commitment going, hey, you
and I were in this for for the long run,
thick and thin, happiness, sickness, whatever, So money shouldn't be
the issue. Now. I get why people who have a
lot of money really need to do it for to
protect themselves. But personally, for me, I'm not a fan

(04:32):
of it because I just think it says we're going
into this already having doubt. Right, But what about something
like an insurance policy. Exactly. Insurance policies are made for
people who are betting on the fact they're going to die, right,
But what about like someone like Jennifer Lopez who went
and got married to Chris Judd. Remember that, and that
was like a very very short marriage a bunch of months, right,
how many months? Sixteen months? So for her, why would

(04:56):
she should she have to give him half when they've
only been married sixteen See, select the celebrity world is
different because it's rare that with the exception of Matt Damon,
really in Hollywood, they really don't last that long Hollywood relationships.
I think normal people, though that get pre nups, are
already going into it, going we're gonna ruin this somewhere

(05:16):
down the road. Well, to be fair, I mean celebrities aside. Still,
the statistics are fifty percent of all marriages end up
in divorce, and so it's not really a celebrity thing.
It's an everyone thing. But you're you're saying, maybe celebrities
me higher earners, but also what about Okay, Jennifer Lopez,
she also has a company going on where she where

(05:37):
she's been making money and people are depending on her
for salaries, and that is she gonna give the half
of that up to anyone. I wouldn't think her fourth
or fifth marriage. At some point you have to realize,
I wonder if marriage is permanent. It is not with
Jennifer Lopez. Britney Spears married Jason Alexander for fifty five hours.
But let's start compare Kay fed who she's still paying right, so,

(06:00):
Christian a lot of money. Chris Judd was a backup dancer,
choreographer or whatever, right backup dancer. He is not on
her level. A Rod is on j Lo's level to
a degree. Those two are not going to fight over
millions of dollars. Chris Judd, who doesn't have as much
money as j Lo, of course, is going to say,
you know what I deserve some of that. A Rod
would never go, you know what I need some of

(06:21):
You say that she's probably is worth more, you think
she's worth more than she is. Yes, okay, let's let's
say I'm worth ten million dollars in Gandhi's worth ten
million dollars and we get married and I walk in
and she's having sex with a rod. All right, well okay,
I have a flooding Gandhi. Yeah. Sorry. The thing is,
you know what, Sorry, I'm gonna sue you for divorce

(06:43):
and I'm going to take half of what you've been making.
I'm with you on that. I don't think people should
should have to split all their earnings. But another still,
certain states that are no fault states. This would not
happen because I have a friend whose husband cheated on her,
let's just say with street people, because because she makes

(07:05):
more than him, she has to pay him. See, this
is nonsense. He's the reason they're getting a divorce. He
cheated with these other people. Because she makes more money,
she has to pay him. So you're saying that it's
ridiculous they should have had a prenuptial because that's ridiculous.
It clearly needs to be a rewriting of the laws.
Like if I got divorced tomorrow, the law would say

(07:26):
she gets half my comic book collection. I had that
comic book collection before I married. Well, yeah, and the
thing is that you go to uh divorce someone, they
typically say, well, you're gonna have to give half of
what you earned or what you gained during the marriage,
because they say that they were there to support you
as you were making that money or buying those comic books.
So this transcends beyond celebrities. So then there you go.

(07:50):
Then never want you to have a prenup? Then by
that logic, But it depends on if people agree in
it with it or not. I don't know what Garrett
is saying a lot of people agree with with Garrett
and fluting the royal family. I do believe of Britain
they don't. They don't get prenups over there. No, Elvis,
do you have that awkward conversation? Because I've never had
the hey, let's get a prenup conversation, But do you

(08:12):
have the conversation with a let's go, hey, we need
a prenup? We have not had that conversation yet. Are
you going? But you said that, Well, I'm probably not
going to talk about it right here on this, but
Frankie Hush, I still think it's awkward though, to go
up to someone go hey, you know we're about to
get married. Let's let's talk about securing our own stuff
on the side. But also it's the same for for Alex.

(08:33):
You know, let's let's if he was if we if
we agree to sign a prenup, everything he owns going
into it is safe as well. I mean, it works
two ways. But is it weird to have that conversation
You're marrying someone that's supposed to talk about everything, Like,
why would it be weird to talk about that? Don't
do you think it's weird? Though? Like when a celebrity says, listen,
let's talk about this. If we're married for two years,
you get this, we make it to five, you get

(08:55):
this package. Yeah, that's kind of yeah, you know what
I think when it comes to uh riches, that that
that that large. It's then up to attorneys to work
it out. And then you guys just agreed the last minute. Okay,
that's fine, just sign it. Yeah. I don't know. I
will say it is sad to sign a prenup. I'm
not saying it's a joyous thing, a great if we divorced,

(09:16):
I'm getting my ship backards And I think if you
if you're that rich, that should come up on the
second date like you should work it into the conversation, like, yeah, yeah,
I had a hard day work. You know what's tough
being me. If I ever get married, that that conversation,
I know I'm gonna have to have about a prenup.
Like put it out there. So if that girl wants
to marry you, she knows a year from now that
conversation is happening. It's not out of the blue. If

(09:38):
that guy marries you. I mean, if you think about it,
I was talking about a guy you would ask for
your favorite sweatshirt back, right, if you had a favorite
sweatshirt and you gave it to your boyfriend and girlfriend
and nate and if you broke up, you'd want it back.
The hoodie comes back, sweatshirts, nothing. Think about the millions
you made. You know, we're a lot of legal legal fees.

(09:58):
Have been spent our with pets. You'll see they'll be
dissolving their marriage and well who gets the dog that
we both adopted while we were married. I mean, that's
the same as a kid, you know. You know, Frankie,
p Frankie, you've been so quiet about this. What is
your thought about the prenup? To talk about this? Because
my girlfriend's been asking me like, hey, so we've been
together for a long time, you know, um six years.

(10:21):
Have a conversation with me. We have a sidebar, okay, Um,
I don't know. I just feel like it's like you
get insurance for your car. You don't want to get
in a car accident, but if it happens, you're covered.
So you get a prenup in the hopes that you
don't get divorced, but if it happens, you're good. I
think nobody I'm crazy. I don't think you're crazy at all.
I think you know when you're gonna marry someone. There

(10:43):
are many principles in life and things you would agree
with and you won't agree on, and this is one
of them. If you don't agree that, if one of
you says I have to have a prenup, that one says, no,
no way. That's something that's something you're not gonna agree on,
So maybe you don't get married. The pet thing is
real though, because we have two dogs, and she's actually
said to me before, like if we break up, like
you can visit the dogs and we'll we'll share We

(11:04):
have like shared custody. But we've had that conversation, but
not the prenup. You've sort of had that discussions. If
you have a prenup, then it doesn't that then doesn't
the relationship then just boil down to uh, just the
love of the relationship because everything else is out of
the equation. If you sign the prenup, then then we're

(11:24):
even on both sides, and now it's just about the relationship.
You've cleared the decks for any other types of art.
That's why I think it works. But why would you
be all going over the money if you're happy. What
I'm saying is you have a pre nup. That's out
of the way. Now we can get on with the relationship.
And if we divorce, we divorce. Yeah, but you're more

(11:44):
apt to divorce because you don't worry about losing your
house now. But is that a reason to be in
a bad relationship. I just don't think to pick up changes.
If you're in a bad relationship, you're gonna end the relationship.
And if you're in a good relationship, you're gonna stay
in the relationship. But if you have a bad relationship
with no prenup, you might be more apt to stay.
You'd rather put monetary items before the love of your life,

(12:06):
get that out of the way. But the poor person
is more likely to stay in a bad relationship because
now they get nothing. But it's pretty awful though, if
if you don't have a prenup in order, and you're
staying in an awful relationship just because either way, you
if you're the poor person. You know, the whole point
of this conversation is this, There is no definitive answer.

(12:27):
I mean, it's it just depends on what you want
great to You've been so quiet. I think that what
happens to it, You've been hauntingly que quiet. I was
just listening to there's a lot of people on the podcast,
was taking notes. No, I think like in in my case,
So in my case, I started working here and very
shortly after I started working I met Trish and then
she's been with me every single step of the way.
So at this point with two children and her being

(12:50):
there on the road with me from day one to
where we are today, then of course we were going
to divorce, it would be you know, even even split,
she was there helping me, supporting me, making sure that
I can further my career. And I just think like
if I came into it. Let's say, let's say I
am who I am now and I meet somebody, and
hypothetically I have a couple of a million in my
pockets somewhere at the loan a lines. Obviously, if I

(13:11):
meet a significant other, they don't. They're not entitled to it.
After I just get married, After after we're just married
for a year. There has to be a timeline something
like how much each individual put into the relations So
I would say that you would protect yourself coming into
it with a prenup, and the prenup is just there
for like a protection so that both can walk away.

(13:36):
I don't but I don't believe that the prenup says
you just with nothing. I think the prenup just protects
both part I when I moved in with my ex
boyfriend I, as we were moving in, I was making
a list of what stuff was his and what stuff
was mine, and he got so irritated. He was like,

(13:57):
what are you doing. You're doing this relationship. But when
we broke up, get to have the list, and it
was so easy. You didn't steal anything. No, really, I
actually gave himself. I was like, dude, just take it.
Take the vacuum. I don't care. At the end of
the day, stuff is stuff. Yeah, But look, you know,
if you build something and you have a business and
this and that, and then you know, okay, things don't
work out in your marriage. It's a business that you

(14:19):
built and they maybe had nothing to do with it.
It happened before they were in your life. Then they
shouldn't get half of that, should they know? But if
they were there to help you build it, that's a
whole different story. What even with like a lot of
professional athletes. I wonder too, like some of the giant settlements,
I'm like, she wasn't shooting with you in the gym.
I don't get why they get so much. Get some

(14:40):
to take care of the kids. He has to stay
in the lifestyle she's accustomed to. That's what they say.
But I think in the case of Justin Bieber, like
you know there there, they understand what's going on. Haley
Baldwin knows that, Like, look, they get divorced, it was
a fling, it's done, move on. She's not gonna walk
away with half of his stuff. And it's not the
way it is. But I think Haley Baldwin comes in
a very very you know, lukeuid a family, they have

(15:02):
a lot of money. Might not. So there you are
straight Nate living with your girlfriend up in Connecticut. I'm
sure this conversations come up. Hell yeah, I'm getting Yeah,
what do you think it's more than you do? Though?
Doesn't she? Oh? Probably? But if but if Nate has
some things like under his belt that he needs to
protect and then he should just doesn't. He doesn't have

(15:24):
a lot under that belt. But let me ask you this,
do you think do you think in in in Garrett says,
and a lot of people agree with him, that signing
a prenup is actually you're kind of tarnishing your relationship.
I don't know. I really think you're damned if you do,
and you're damned if you don't. Honestly, with the whole
prenup thing, if it's meant to last, it's meant to last.
If you wanted to protect yourself in advance by signing
a prey up grade, go for it. If not, if

(15:46):
you want to risk it and roll the dice. All
I know is I don't want to end up like
this couple. And you can google this picture beanie baby divorce.
I do not want to end up like this couple
in early two thousand's sitting there on the floor of
the courtroom going through a pile of beanie babies and
the judge determining who gets which. My time now want
to be that anything of them are nate. Want those

(16:08):
mirrors protected. This Christopher Cross album, well, thanks for listening.
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