March 5, 2025 • 14 mins
Danielle and Straight Nate ate meat by accident on Ash Wednesday! We break down everyone's religion and traditions.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Put your hands together, and we're gonna start to.
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Part I'm ready to party the Elvis Duran after Party.
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It is the After Party podcast.
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Look, I'm doing it without a ship.
Speaker 5 (00:19):
Oh my god, how funny would it have been if
you tried to sit just now and you don't hilarious?
Speaker 6 (00:24):
Daniel was that the same chair Scary was buttoling the
other day.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Holding my chair.
Speaker 6 (00:30):
Oh, he cracked in.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'm sorry, I had a little plumber's crack.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
I saw that that's hot now right in Milan.
Speaker 6 (00:37):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (00:38):
And so here we have, of course, you heard Scotty
Bee over in the.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Podcast room for the Serial Killers podcast.
Speaker 7 (00:44):
Here's Scary and Gandhi and I see Garrett, see Danielle
and Nate, who's falling asleep.
Speaker 8 (00:51):
It says, non drowsy. Maybe that it just affects me differently.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
I don't know, were you sleepy before?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Not really?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
No, he remember he said he got a really good night.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yes, but now that pill I was.
Speaker 8 (01:02):
I was drunk.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I was drunk.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
But with Nate's taking this clarreton so many times and
that haws it happened to him.
Speaker 8 (01:08):
I've taken it later in the show, and I'd have
to remember if I got sleepier.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Later, it doesn't seem like the Clarkton is actually a
healthy I'm supposed to help you.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, okay, so we're all here. What are we talking about?
Speaker 6 (01:25):
Should we talk about Nate and Danielle breaking their Lent thing?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Okay, talk about it.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Let's talk about let's talk about Lent.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Okay. So today is ash Wednesday, you know, when we're
recording this podcast, and you're supposed to this is the
beginning of Lent before Easter, and you give up something
for Lent and the Catholic religion like a sacrifice. And
you also don't have meat on ash Wednesday, Good Friday,
and every Friday during Lent. So Nate reminds me this morning, Hey, Danielle,
(01:56):
don't forget we can't eat meat today. I'm like, oh, yeah,
you're right. So Nate ordered for breakfast a chicken farm
Hero and I said, hey, can I have a bike?
Speaker 7 (02:05):
They go, we totally.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Forgot already doesn't count. Yes it does. Some people will
argue that though, to be.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Honest, people who are not Catholics or don't know what
meat is.
Speaker 9 (02:16):
Does it really matter though, in the grand scheme of things,
You know, I feel like, especially on times when Saint
Patrick's day falls on a Friday, and you know, the
big staple is corn, beef and cabbage.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
All of a sudden, all the priests come.
Speaker 10 (02:29):
In and say, it's okay, even though it's Friday, you
can have your corn beef and cabbage today, said, everyone's absolved,
And all of a sudden, the rules get thrown out
the door. So if you can make if the rules
are a matter of convenience.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Then who caress it? There's no rule?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Who cares?
Speaker 7 (02:47):
I mean, I think you're the I'm assuming, Danielle, you
are the deepest practicing Catholic.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
In yes, I don't go to church every Sunday.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
They should come up with a new set of rules.
Aren't those very antiquated?
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Like okay, so it's said okay the non Catholic person.
It says that abstinence from meat on certain days is
one of the oldest Christian traditions. From the first century,
the day of the Crucifixion has been traditionally observed of
the day of abstaining from flesh from meat to no,
I'm not done to honor Christ who sacrificed his flesh
(03:21):
on a fried So that's what they're saying. I don't
think they do that anymore.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Okay, if you were nice to your slave or something
like that.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I don't know why they give it exception that day
it was. I think it was one day when it
was on.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
It's an exception though, so I mean, why why would
an exception be allowed?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
I have no idea. You have to look that up.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
But I was serious about my no sex question because
if it's no flesh, does that mean no exchanging of
sex like that?
Speaker 8 (03:52):
Coming.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yeah, well you actually said questions.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
You're actually not.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Supposed to have big meal. I think you only supposed
to have one big meal for the day. I think
you're especially on Good Friday, and and yeah.
Speaker 9 (04:03):
More accustom than anything else.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It really is not you, you who do not follow
any Catholic anything.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I'm a Catholic. I want logic.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
It's ridiculous right now, is looking down and she's like skiller.
Speaker 10 (04:20):
She would agree with me it's critical to make rules,
and then all of a sudden say, well, on this day,
we could throw the rules out.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
So I would look agree with that.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
No, I'm one hundred percent on board. I oh to
me all things religion, I'm out. So I agree with
all of the like, let's argue about that, but let's.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
Is something to be said for being a student of religion. Yes,
and so if that's the case, if you're a student
of let's say, Catholicism, do you think it's okay for
them to be just throwing out the rules if it's
convenient for them.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Well, isn't this sort of in some ways, like the Constitution,
there were rules and then they realized these were silly,
so they them. I mean, the no meat thing came
from a place of trying to help out the fishermen, right,
that's one of.
Speaker 8 (05:05):
The rumors in that it was a pope's brother or
something owned a fishing fleet, so he said, well, you
can't eat meat, but you can't eat fi.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Yeah. So I mean maybe as time changes, things can change.
And that's okay. You're not throwing everything out the window.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
You're just wait, there's a difference in making these amendments
to switch up the constitution. They were amendments that were made. Yeah,
nothing in the in the Catholic Church said we got
together took a vote.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Okay, you're saying you can't rewrite the Bible.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Well, I don't think it's a post.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
To you and do what's best for them.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
About time, I have to say that follow the money.
But as we the church has evolved over the years,
they have changed different things and have been more accepting
of different things. Even when I'm there on Sunday and
the priest is doing his homily, a lot of times
they'll say things that I don't think they would have
(06:01):
said years ago.
Speaker 8 (06:02):
It has changed, but you can't. I grew up Catholic.
I was an altar boy. I actually wanted to be
a priest at one point when I was younger.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Not too late, actually it could be. Uh.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
You have to admit, though, Danielle, some things are three
or four hundred years past the time they should have changed.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Oh yes, But at the same time, a lot of
people believe in tradition.
Speaker 8 (06:22):
And you know, I mean, I remember serving the Mass
in Latin. I had no clue what the hell they
were saying.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
But okay, let's say the church, Catholic Church is a
little more relaxed in this area.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That area isn't, isn't it?
Speaker 7 (06:33):
Because it's on record because the Pope at some point said,
you know what, we should just calm down.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
You know what the Pope now I think has in the.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Sixties, they had the whatever Council that changed the way
the Mass was done, and they really kind of updated
things in the sixties because prior to that everything.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Was in Latin.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
And actually not too long ago, because I was teaching
Catholic school, we had to take a class on updated
things in the Mass on Sundays where they changed certain worlds.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
They changed like years years, they change responses and well,
I'm not Catholic.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I don't know what you're talking about. What are you
a good question?
Speaker 8 (07:06):
You raised?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Have I been raised at this point?
Speaker 8 (07:11):
No, you went to church when you were younger.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Oh, I'm gonna get this call.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Oh wow. So my mom and I have this conversation
about Hinduism in some ways, so when you go to
the temple, if you're wearing shorts, they don't want you
to come in. So a lot of times people from
other religions or other cultures, they'll come to the temple
because they want to check it out, and they want
them in because they're wearing shorts. And my mom says,
I just think this is so silly, because of what
we want is to include people and to help people
(07:35):
let them in. Man, they're from somewhere else. Don't don't
exclude people based on these like ancient things.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
I remember that because you go to church, people generally
dress up, well.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
They used to dress up.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Nobody dressed twenty five years ago.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
You would get the stinky from people if you were
wearing shorts Sunday.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
But I look at it like that. But I look
at it. That's what I look at it. I look
at it like we're here, we're I mean, I wouldn't
wear something that says booty delicious on my butt, which
I have seen before in the church.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Amazing.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
But people, if you're there and you're there and you
know whatever, some people, I think a lot of times
some people are coming from somewhere and they're running late
and they need to get to church, and maybe they're
not dressed appropriately. If you're there, you know, and you're worshiping,
you know you made an effort.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I think, Scotty, do you dress up when you go
to temple?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
You were there.
Speaker 11 (08:21):
I've been a temple since my bar Mitzvah, so I
couldn't tell you I'm a fair weather jewy fair weather
it's been thirty five. Yeah, you're not supposed to mixed
milk and meat.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
No, that's only if you're kosher. See you don't. Not
all Jews are kosher. And what about eating?
Speaker 11 (08:38):
And also I also think that that's antiquated to it's
before they had refrigeration.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
That's where all that stuff came from. Really and pork, yeah, pork,
I don't. I'll leave pork all day.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So how do you just decide to do what you want?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
But okay, so you had a choice at some point.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I think it's just differently.
Speaker 11 (08:53):
I mean, if you're Orthodox and this and that where
where I was raised, very reformed, So I mean, I mean.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I I have a friend who's such an Orthodox Jew.
He told me that if his daughter married out of
the Orthodox tradition, he would disown her. And I said,
and I and I'm very good friends with them. And
I said, so, I don't understand if they're in love
and it's a He goes, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
I will disown her. She will no longer be my child.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
You know what.
Speaker 11 (09:21):
What's important for me though, within Judaism is just the traditions.
I get together with my family on the holidays and
we do that kind of stuff. It's not I don't
I'm not a super Jew.
Speaker 9 (09:30):
I mean, it's just so you don't have two dishwashers
to refrigerators and no.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But I had friends that had two separate kitchens.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Two kitchens yeah, yeah, wait, explain that to one is
from milk, one is for.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Meat, that's right.
Speaker 11 (09:43):
Yeah, And if you go to if you go to
like any place that's kosher, like they're okay, So the
bagel place near my house is kosher, and you can't
get sausage or bacon or hammer any of that.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
It's just dairy. That's it.
Speaker 9 (09:53):
But but to your point, I think Nate was asking
you needed the separate kitchens because and the separate plates
because the milk stuff can't touch, right, the meat stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It doesn't matter if you washed this, it's got to
be separate wash.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
You have to bury a plate or something, right, bury
a plate, Yeah, like if they.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Touched, don't you know more about it than I do.
Speaker 9 (10:14):
Places they serve either milk products or beef products me,
but not both.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
And they also sometimes will say, you know, we use
separate cutlery, separate whatever to cut this, so that very
kosher people don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
My friend moved into a house with two dishwashers and
two things, like what's going on here? They were they
were it was formerly owned by the city Jewish.
Speaker 11 (10:37):
Right, And do you know that, like really really religious
Jewish people on the Sabbath, they really can't do it.
They don't drive or anything like that, and they can't
even there are Sabbath elevators in some buildings in the
city where it just stops on every floor because they
can't push the buttons.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
That with everything nowadays changing and the world changing the
way that it is, and we're given so many of
these privileges. I inspect these religions that stick to their
traditions and that their beliefs, and they don't Saturday is
like considered a holy day and they don't drive, and
they want like to me, that's like wow, you know,
because it gets harder and harder to do those things.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
That's the core of it.
Speaker 8 (11:13):
I think you just need to be a good person. Yes,
of course you have two refrigerators, or you say the
masks the way that they used to twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
If you're not a good person, none of that.
Speaker 11 (11:24):
Mass see, from my experience, with each generation, it gets
less and less less. Because my friends that had the
separate kitchens. Their kids were kind of kosher, and their
kids they don't care. So it just it just kind
of dissipates over time.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Indian people have two kitchens. It's not religious, they just
have a kitchen that's got more ventilation so that like
the smells don't sink into the furniture, like a lot
of garlic or curry powder.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
I grew up in a Jewish area, you know, we
actually all lived in adjacent neighborhoods. And when I went
for a hospital visit and I got on the Sabbath
elevator on a Saturday once and I'm sitting there and
I had to go to like the eighth floor for
the visit, stopping on.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Two and three and four and five. I know some
kid was in there that pushed all the buttons.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
Yeah, but I mean none of the buttons were lit.
I'm like, what's going on here? But that's when I
learned about it. So it's kind of become part of
my life and my experiences, so you know, I don't
really look at it weird.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
I just, uh, you know, I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
You know, I took a World Religions class in college,
and I wish I had taken that when I was seven,
because I realized that that age boy, Taoism is so
cool and it's basically just being in touch with nature, right,
it's not you know, you've got a genuflect and Daniel,
you know you've got to do all these certain things
when you go into a Catholic church, and God knows,
(12:41):
I love.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
The word genuflect.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I'm back, badcast. We're still talking about that.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yes, was a religion.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I didn't have one.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
We're talking about the Jewish traditions. Now we've moved on.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Have you ever taken religion classes?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
And I realized that after taking.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
A Yeah, I've found it fascinating. And I found that
each and every religion that we studied had bits and
pieces of beautiful, beautiful, beautiful things that could all be
made into one super religion.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
And oftentimes they have pieces of other religions that they've
clearly taken inspiration from.
Speaker 8 (13:12):
Notice, why do all of the holidays in all of
the major faiths really kind of land around the same time.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Why is that nate?
Speaker 8 (13:21):
Because it was festivals and they just kind of piggybacked
off all of these other religions, you.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Know, like Sheldon's Episcopalian and we're Catholic, and it's very
very similar. I went to an Episcopalian church in England
and the man and I said, this is the same.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
The same.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
They're more fun, but.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
They have less rules than the kid. Yes, Catholic church.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Yes, well, like the story of Moses being floated down
the river and the story of Christiana being floated down
the river are almost the.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Same story, suspect.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
So I got back to some time to say goodbye.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, so the podcast is done.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
I'm glad we had this time together, even though my
time with you was shorter, and the rest of us
have beautiful egg
Speaker 2 (14:03):
The Elvis DA ran after party, mm hmm
Put your hands together, and we're gonna start to.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Part I'm ready to party the Elvis Duran after Party.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
It is the After Party podcast.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Look, I'm doing it without a ship.
Speaker 5 (00:19):
Oh my god, how funny would it have been if
you tried to sit just now and you don't hilarious?
Speaker 6 (00:24):
Daniel was that the same chair Scary was buttoling the
other day.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Holding my chair.
Speaker 6 (00:30):
Oh, he cracked in.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I'm sorry, I had a little plumber's crack.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
I saw that that's hot now right in Milan.
Speaker 6 (00:37):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (00:38):
And so here we have, of course, you heard Scotty
Bee over in the.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Podcast room for the Serial Killers podcast.
Speaker 7 (00:44):
Here's Scary and Gandhi and I see Garrett, see Danielle
and Nate, who's falling asleep.
Speaker 8 (00:51):
It says, non drowsy. Maybe that it just affects me differently.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
I don't know, were you sleepy before?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Not really?
Speaker 5 (00:57):
No, he remember he said he got a really good night.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yes, but now that pill I was.
Speaker 8 (01:02):
I was drunk.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I was drunk.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
But with Nate's taking this clarreton so many times and
that haws it happened to him.
Speaker 8 (01:08):
I've taken it later in the show, and I'd have
to remember if I got sleepier.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Later, it doesn't seem like the Clarkton is actually a
healthy I'm supposed to help you.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, okay, so we're all here. What are we talking about?
Speaker 6 (01:25):
Should we talk about Nate and Danielle breaking their Lent thing?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Okay, talk about it.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Let's talk about let's talk about Lent.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Okay. So today is ash Wednesday, you know, when we're
recording this podcast, and you're supposed to this is the
beginning of Lent before Easter, and you give up something
for Lent and the Catholic religion like a sacrifice. And
you also don't have meat on ash Wednesday, Good Friday,
and every Friday during Lent. So Nate reminds me this morning, Hey, Danielle,
(01:56):
don't forget we can't eat meat today. I'm like, oh, yeah,
you're right. So Nate ordered for breakfast a chicken farm
Hero and I said, hey, can I have a bike?
Speaker 7 (02:05):
They go, we totally.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
Forgot already doesn't count. Yes it does. Some people will
argue that though, to be.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Honest, people who are not Catholics or don't know what
meat is.
Speaker 9 (02:16):
Does it really matter though, in the grand scheme of things,
You know, I feel like, especially on times when Saint
Patrick's day falls on a Friday, and you know, the
big staple is corn, beef and cabbage.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
All of a sudden, all the priests come.
Speaker 10 (02:29):
In and say, it's okay, even though it's Friday, you
can have your corn beef and cabbage today, said, everyone's absolved,
And all of a sudden, the rules get thrown out
the door. So if you can make if the rules
are a matter of convenience.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Then who caress it? There's no rule?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Who cares?
Speaker 7 (02:47):
I mean, I think you're the I'm assuming, Danielle, you
are the deepest practicing Catholic.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
In yes, I don't go to church every Sunday.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
They should come up with a new set of rules.
Aren't those very antiquated?
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Like okay, so it's said okay the non Catholic person.
It says that abstinence from meat on certain days is
one of the oldest Christian traditions. From the first century,
the day of the Crucifixion has been traditionally observed of
the day of abstaining from flesh from meat to no,
I'm not done to honor Christ who sacrificed his flesh
(03:21):
on a fried So that's what they're saying. I don't
think they do that anymore.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Okay, if you were nice to your slave or something
like that.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I don't know why they give it exception that day
it was. I think it was one day when it
was on.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
It's an exception though, so I mean, why why would
an exception be allowed?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
I have no idea. You have to look that up.
Speaker 6 (03:43):
But I was serious about my no sex question because
if it's no flesh, does that mean no exchanging of
sex like that?
Speaker 8 (03:52):
Coming.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Yeah, well you actually said questions.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
You're actually not.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Supposed to have big meal. I think you only supposed
to have one big meal for the day. I think
you're especially on Good Friday, and and yeah.
Speaker 9 (04:03):
More accustom than anything else.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It really is not you, you who do not follow
any Catholic anything.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I'm a Catholic. I want logic.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
It's ridiculous right now, is looking down and she's like skiller.
Speaker 10 (04:20):
She would agree with me it's critical to make rules,
and then all of a sudden say, well, on this day,
we could throw the rules out.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
So I would look agree with that.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
No, I'm one hundred percent on board. I oh to
me all things religion, I'm out. So I agree with
all of the like, let's argue about that, but let's.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
Is something to be said for being a student of religion. Yes,
and so if that's the case, if you're a student
of let's say, Catholicism, do you think it's okay for
them to be just throwing out the rules if it's
convenient for them.
Speaker 6 (04:54):
Well, isn't this sort of in some ways, like the Constitution,
there were rules and then they realized these were silly,
so they them. I mean, the no meat thing came
from a place of trying to help out the fishermen, right,
that's one of.
Speaker 8 (05:05):
The rumors in that it was a pope's brother or
something owned a fishing fleet, so he said, well, you
can't eat meat, but you can't eat fi.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
Yeah. So I mean maybe as time changes, things can change.
And that's okay. You're not throwing everything out the window.
Speaker 7 (05:20):
You're just wait, there's a difference in making these amendments
to switch up the constitution. They were amendments that were made. Yeah,
nothing in the in the Catholic Church said we got
together took a vote.
Speaker 6 (05:31):
Okay, you're saying you can't rewrite the Bible.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
Well, I don't think it's a post.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
To you and do what's best for them.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
About time, I have to say that follow the money.
But as we the church has evolved over the years,
they have changed different things and have been more accepting
of different things. Even when I'm there on Sunday and
the priest is doing his homily, a lot of times
they'll say things that I don't think they would have
(06:01):
said years ago.
Speaker 8 (06:02):
It has changed, but you can't. I grew up Catholic.
I was an altar boy. I actually wanted to be
a priest at one point when I was younger.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Not too late, actually it could be. Uh.
Speaker 8 (06:12):
You have to admit, though, Danielle, some things are three
or four hundred years past the time they should have changed.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Oh yes, But at the same time, a lot of
people believe in tradition.
Speaker 8 (06:22):
And you know, I mean, I remember serving the Mass
in Latin. I had no clue what the hell they
were saying.
Speaker 7 (06:27):
But okay, let's say the church, Catholic Church is a
little more relaxed in this area.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That area isn't, isn't it?
Speaker 7 (06:33):
Because it's on record because the Pope at some point said,
you know what, we should just calm down.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
You know what the Pope now I think has in the.
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Sixties, they had the whatever Council that changed the way
the Mass was done, and they really kind of updated
things in the sixties because prior to that everything.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Was in Latin.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
And actually not too long ago, because I was teaching
Catholic school, we had to take a class on updated
things in the Mass on Sundays where they changed certain worlds.
Speaker 7 (06:57):
They changed like years years, they change responses and well,
I'm not Catholic.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I don't know what you're talking about. What are you
a good question?
Speaker 8 (07:06):
You raised?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Have I been raised at this point?
Speaker 8 (07:11):
No, you went to church when you were younger.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Oh, I'm gonna get this call.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
Oh wow. So my mom and I have this conversation
about Hinduism in some ways, so when you go to
the temple, if you're wearing shorts, they don't want you
to come in. So a lot of times people from
other religions or other cultures, they'll come to the temple
because they want to check it out, and they want
them in because they're wearing shorts. And my mom says,
I just think this is so silly, because of what
we want is to include people and to help people
(07:35):
let them in. Man, they're from somewhere else. Don't don't
exclude people based on these like ancient things.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
I remember that because you go to church, people generally
dress up, well.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
They used to dress up.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Nobody dressed twenty five years ago.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
You would get the stinky from people if you were
wearing shorts Sunday.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
But I look at it like that. But I look
at it. That's what I look at it. I look
at it like we're here, we're I mean, I wouldn't
wear something that says booty delicious on my butt, which
I have seen before in the church.
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Amazing.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
But people, if you're there and you're there and you
know whatever, some people, I think a lot of times
some people are coming from somewhere and they're running late
and they need to get to church, and maybe they're
not dressed appropriately. If you're there, you know, and you're worshiping,
you know you made an effort.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
I think, Scotty, do you dress up when you go
to temple?
Speaker 4 (08:20):
You were there.
Speaker 11 (08:21):
I've been a temple since my bar Mitzvah, so I
couldn't tell you I'm a fair weather jewy fair weather
it's been thirty five. Yeah, you're not supposed to mixed
milk and meat.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
No, that's only if you're kosher. See you don't. Not
all Jews are kosher. And what about eating?
Speaker 11 (08:38):
And also I also think that that's antiquated to it's
before they had refrigeration.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
That's where all that stuff came from. Really and pork, yeah, pork,
I don't. I'll leave pork all day.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
So how do you just decide to do what you want?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
No?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
But okay, so you had a choice at some point.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
I think it's just differently.
Speaker 11 (08:53):
I mean, if you're Orthodox and this and that where
where I was raised, very reformed, So I mean, I mean.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I I have a friend who's such an Orthodox Jew.
He told me that if his daughter married out of
the Orthodox tradition, he would disown her. And I said,
and I and I'm very good friends with them. And
I said, so, I don't understand if they're in love
and it's a He goes, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.
I will disown her. She will no longer be my child.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
You know what.
Speaker 11 (09:21):
What's important for me though, within Judaism is just the traditions.
I get together with my family on the holidays and
we do that kind of stuff. It's not I don't
I'm not a super Jew.
Speaker 9 (09:30):
I mean, it's just so you don't have two dishwashers
to refrigerators and no.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But I had friends that had two separate kitchens.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Two kitchens yeah, yeah, wait, explain that to one is
from milk, one is for.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Meat, that's right.
Speaker 11 (09:43):
Yeah, And if you go to if you go to
like any place that's kosher, like they're okay, So the
bagel place near my house is kosher, and you can't
get sausage or bacon or hammer any of that.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
It's just dairy. That's it.
Speaker 9 (09:53):
But but to your point, I think Nate was asking
you needed the separate kitchens because and the separate plates
because the milk stuff can't touch, right, the meat stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
It doesn't matter if you washed this, it's got to
be separate wash.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
You have to bury a plate or something, right, bury
a plate, Yeah, like if they.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Touched, don't you know more about it than I do.
Speaker 9 (10:14):
Places they serve either milk products or beef products me,
but not both.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
And they also sometimes will say, you know, we use
separate cutlery, separate whatever to cut this, so that very
kosher people don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 9 (10:29):
My friend moved into a house with two dishwashers and
two things, like what's going on here? They were they
were it was formerly owned by the city Jewish.
Speaker 11 (10:37):
Right, And do you know that, like really really religious
Jewish people on the Sabbath, they really can't do it.
They don't drive or anything like that, and they can't
even there are Sabbath elevators in some buildings in the
city where it just stops on every floor because they
can't push the buttons.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
That with everything nowadays changing and the world changing the
way that it is, and we're given so many of
these privileges. I inspect these religions that stick to their
traditions and that their beliefs, and they don't Saturday is
like considered a holy day and they don't drive, and
they want like to me, that's like wow, you know,
because it gets harder and harder to do those things.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
That's the core of it.
Speaker 8 (11:13):
I think you just need to be a good person. Yes,
of course you have two refrigerators, or you say the
masks the way that they used to twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
If you're not a good person, none of that.
Speaker 11 (11:24):
Mass see, from my experience, with each generation, it gets
less and less less. Because my friends that had the
separate kitchens. Their kids were kind of kosher, and their
kids they don't care. So it just it just kind
of dissipates over time.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Indian people have two kitchens. It's not religious, they just
have a kitchen that's got more ventilation so that like
the smells don't sink into the furniture, like a lot
of garlic or curry powder.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
I grew up in a Jewish area, you know, we
actually all lived in adjacent neighborhoods. And when I went
for a hospital visit and I got on the Sabbath
elevator on a Saturday once and I'm sitting there and
I had to go to like the eighth floor for
the visit, stopping on.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Two and three and four and five. I know some
kid was in there that pushed all the buttons.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
Yeah, but I mean none of the buttons were lit.
I'm like, what's going on here? But that's when I
learned about it. So it's kind of become part of
my life and my experiences, so you know, I don't
really look at it weird.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
I just, uh, you know, I'm like, okay, cool.
Speaker 8 (12:20):
You know, I took a World Religions class in college,
and I wish I had taken that when I was seven,
because I realized that that age boy, Taoism is so
cool and it's basically just being in touch with nature, right,
it's not you know, you've got a genuflect and Daniel,
you know you've got to do all these certain things
when you go into a Catholic church, and God knows,
(12:41):
I love.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
The word genuflect.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
I'm back, badcast. We're still talking about that.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Yes, was a religion.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
I didn't have one.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
We're talking about the Jewish traditions. Now we've moved on.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Have you ever taken religion classes?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
And I realized that after taking.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
A Yeah, I've found it fascinating. And I found that
each and every religion that we studied had bits and
pieces of beautiful, beautiful, beautiful things that could all be
made into one super religion.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
And oftentimes they have pieces of other religions that they've
clearly taken inspiration from.
Speaker 8 (13:12):
Notice, why do all of the holidays in all of
the major faiths really kind of land around the same time.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Why is that nate?
Speaker 8 (13:21):
Because it was festivals and they just kind of piggybacked
off all of these other religions, you.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Know, like Sheldon's Episcopalian and we're Catholic, and it's very
very similar. I went to an Episcopalian church in England
and the man and I said, this is the same.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
The same.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
They're more fun, but.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
They have less rules than the kid. Yes, Catholic church.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Yes, well, like the story of Moses being floated down
the river and the story of Christiana being floated down
the river are almost the.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Same story, suspect.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
So I got back to some time to say goodbye.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, so the podcast is done.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
I'm glad we had this time together, even though my
time with you was shorter, and the rest of us
have beautiful egg
Speaker 2 (14:03):
The Elvis DA ran after party, mm hmm
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