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On today’s MKD, we talk about how vaping almost killed a reality TV star, two people who almost fell to their deaths doing extremely stupid things, a kid who swallowed an AirPod, and an unusual place for a viable ectopic pregnancy. 

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about a reality TV star who almost
died from vaping, a mistress who almost died trying to
hide from the man's wife she was having an affair with,
and a man who almost fell to his death while
taking a selfie. Those last two stories were all caught
on video, by the way. Then we'll talk about a

(00:42):
kid who swallowed an earbud and a family member who
tried to make a sick joke of it. And we'll
finish off with the first ever reported case of a
very unusual ech topic pregnancy. All that and more on
today's episode, Vaping Terrible for You. I've been saying this
since it started.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
Thirty three year old Below Deck star Fraser Olander shared
that he was hospitalized after having lung issues and a
heart attack, which all stemmed from vaping.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
So I couldn't find this anywhere. Did you find it
anywhere if he was if he said he was vaping cigarettes,
or if he was vaping weed. I'm just curious. I
don't think it's specified, which all right, So let's try
to figure out what happened with him. So he was
diagnosed with something called a valley or e cigarette vape

(01:31):
associated lung injury. So that's just like kind of a
broad category of different kinds of injuries you could get
from vape pens. But one of them is called popcorn lung.
Have you ever heard of that. I've heard of it,
but I really don't know what it is at all.
So basically, these factory workers who were making popcorn were

(01:55):
getting this lung injury called bronchiolitis oblitterans, which they have
now nicknamed popcorn lung because they saw that they were
getting it from the chemical that they put on top
of popcorn to make it taste like butter, called diacetyl,
And we're all eating that and it's supposed to be fine.

(02:18):
It's actually crazy because sometimes when we go to the
movie theater, they have like a station that you could
put your own butter on it, like after you get it,
and I always, you know, load it up like I
wanted to be soaking wet, and the whole time I'm
just like, this isn't butter. This is like I don't

(02:39):
even know what this is. It's like castor oil right now,
I don't even know, but like it tastes so good.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Ricky literally puts a straw on the spout to get
it in the bottom and then.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Oh yeah he did on the top. He did tell
me that once. That was like his trick. So so yeah,
So these workers were inhaling this chemical and it was
them to have damage to the really small airways the
bronchials of the lungs. And it's a similar finding in
people who vape. They think that it might be from

(03:11):
vitamin e acetate, which is an oil that's sometimes used,
especially in ones that are ball off the street, but
you could also get it in other ones too, I suppose.
So he got diagnosed with that, but then secondary to that,
so this wasn't caused by the vape, but is like

(03:35):
another thing that happened to him was that he had
a condition where he was having spasms of his coronary
arteries and they were clamping down and that caused him
to have a heart attack. So he's thirty five years old.
This is really unusual. But this is the same kind
of thing that we could see in Takasubo arteratus, which
we've talked about on the show before, which is when

(03:56):
you have like the broken heart disease, So he doesn't
have any physical coronary artery disease with something caused his
blood vessels to kind of clamp down and shut off
blood supply to his heart, which I guess like nicotine
could do that, So it could have been because of that,
and that along with the lung injury could just be

(04:18):
like a double whammy that was causing a lack of
oxygen to get to his heart. But regardless, he had
a heart attack, and he said he had like the
worst crushing chest pain ever and that's how he knew.
You know, it's funny. I always do wonder that, Like,
you know, if you're just walking around sometimes or whatever,
you get like a pain in your chest, You're like,
oh my god, I wonder if I'm having a heart attack, right,

(04:40):
And you're just like but most people will say, you'll oh,
you'll know, like it's unlike anything that you've ever felt.
You'll know something, because aren't you Sometimes you're just like, ah,
what if I blow it off and then it's not
really a heart attack, And you're just like, no, it's
pretty obvious that something really terrible is wrong.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, I mean I would say for women, I think
it might be a little harder to detect because I'm
sure you've gotten like shooting pains in your boobs before
and it's like right there. And then when I went
off birth control a couple of years ago, I was
having a chest pain on my left side, and then
doctor Joe ended up saying it was like some muscles postrochondrite,

(05:22):
that that's.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
What it was exactly.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
I could never remember what it was called, but it's
like the muscle in this is my understanding. To correct
me if I'm wrong, but it's like the muscle between
your boob and like your rib cage right or something.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, you could get it from it from where the
where the bone meets the cartilage, or you could get
pains from the muscle as well. But yeah, it it
and it it hurts. It hurts pretty bad, but it's
in a very specific location. That's an I think that
a lot of people, I mean, you could have like
a smaller heart attack and maybe like ignore it and

(05:55):
not go to the hospital for it. But when you're
having like the heart attack, I think that a lot
of people describe it as being like really really obvious
that it was happening.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, and I think he's I think it's cool, unlike
the Kardashian gender camp where they're trying to promote things
to get money. I think he's genuinely like, this could
have been really bad. And I do think there's a
genuine general misconception that vaping is so much healthier than
smoking cigarettes or physical marijuana out of like a bowler

(06:28):
joint or whatever, and it actually I feel like we're
learning it's so much worse.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Well, it can be worse, and listen, like, the tobacco
industry is just like up there with every the drug
industry and everything like that. So when they're the ones
that are putting out vapes and stuff, and like, how
could you ever trust them what they've done with cigarettes? Right,
It's just like if it was an actual reputable company

(06:55):
that showed interest in caring about people, they just show
in making millions of dollars. So he did say one
interesting thing too, though, is that he's been off of
the eight pens for three weeks and he said his
skin looks better than it's looked in a really long time,
which is really interesting too.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
It is, and I thought it was funny too.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
The picture he posted of.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
The incident was kind of like a third strap showing
off his nice body with like medical equipment on it.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I was like, okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
All right, So these next two ones are like so stupid.
First in China, this cheating Cusban freaked out when he
heard his wife coming home early, so he made his
mistress climb out the window of his tenth floor apartment,
and somebody across the street or an alley got the
entire thing on video, and I can't believe she did

(07:47):
not fall. You guys just wouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's such a selfish asshole, like he's cheating on his wife,
and then on top of that, he doesn't want to
get caught and he's making a woman go outside, and
what an idiot for actually doing it.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, she's an idiot too, for first of all home
wrecker and then also you're an idiot.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
She maybe she didn't know he was married.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
This is the thing Like, but then I'd be like,
I'm not climbing out of the window.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
It all happened so fast. He was just like, listen,
I just need you to go out the window for
a minute. Dude. This video is insane.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
She is like scaling this building like Spider Man.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
It's crazy and I couldn't even believe it because it
looks like in her one hand she's holding her cellphone,
and she also looks like she's have shoes on, so
she's crawling along the edge of the window.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
She somehow makes it to a pipe, slides.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Down the pipe to the floor below, crawls over to
another window, knocks on that window, and gets that neighbor
to pull her inside.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Like, what is happening right now?

Speaker 1 (08:47):
I cannot believe she didn't fall.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
It's funny, because not funny. It Yeah, yesterday in the
grocery room, I was writing about freak accidents that happen
around the hall time, and a similar situation happened with
a Santa that decided to just like scale a building
that was twenty four stories, but his didn't end so well.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
I just don't understand what people are thinking. It's honestly
miraculous that she did not fall to her death.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
She should have like beat the shit out of him
after she got out. I would just be like, would
she just like wrap back around, go up the elevator
and knock on the door and be like Hi.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, I think they obviously ended up getting caught anyway,
because this video went viral and it's like obvious who
it is in the video, so you know, did he
even look outside to check on her?

Speaker 2 (09:40):
No? He sucks. This is unacceptable.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
And then another incident that also happened in China. This
man was trying to take a selfie on a cliff
and then ended up falling, but he also somehow survived.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I can't and how big of a drop was it? So?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Isn't that cliff was one hundred and thirty feet high
but he plunged around fifty feet below, so I think
he fell and then slid down some rock.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Like is he okay?

Speaker 1 (10:12):
He posted just on Instagram that he thought he was
gonna die but he survived. There's no report of it.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
He is like upsetting to watch videos like that. There
was another one going around recently. This is the problem
with the internet now, Like I just never know what
video is real and what video is fake anymore, I
which is bumming me out because I'm like, did this
really happen or is this because there was one going
around the past couple weeks of someone climbing I don't

(10:41):
know if it was Mount Everest, but it was a
situation like that with like a high mountain and a
person was like like slid like off of the edge.
But then I'm like, is this AI? Like I don't.
I'm not that great at picking it up, you know,
so I just don't unless it comes from like ABC
News or something, I don't want to use it.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
I feel like I could see this being AI because
I was looking at it and it doesn't seem like
the rock all these people were on and climbing was
a legitimate hiking area. Did you know that doesn't mean
anything people, I mean, well, so they're saying that's the thing.
I guess people could really just like I mean you like,

(11:22):
we could just do that later, like let's make a
video of us with me falling off a rock and saying,
oh my god, thank god I survived. Like look at
this video, like how I don't know, Well, this is
what there's like programs you could run it through.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Probably to figure it out or something. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
This is what the area said. So he was climbing
Huajing Mountain in China, and then that tourist area is
saying that they were on this area known as Blade Rock,
which is not within the boundaries of the hiking area,
and they emphasized that area is only allowed to be
viewed from a different a distance and climbing is not permitted.
So I'm looking at it like, I don't think this

(12:01):
is real because it doesn't look like an actual area
people could physically walk up, but they're saying that it
is there, and people go there anyway, and they're not
supposed to be going there basically, which is probably why
this happened.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, and we've had a couple stories of people dying
taking selfeast, Like could you imagine like dying because of that?
Really No, I can't. And it's just I guess I
just don't understand because as we've established, I hate outside, right, So,
like when I was driving in upstate New York. You know,
there's it.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Snowed a lot up there, so there's snow and there's ice,
like literally all the bodies of water are completely frozen
over already, So and what is.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Appealing about that for a vacation destination.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I had a great time, but it was nice. But anyway,
as we're along some of the back roads in the mountains,
there are just cars pulled over with people not in
them right, and I'm like, where could these people possibly be?
There's nowhere to go, and he's like, oh, they do
like ice climbing and stuff. And I just can't fathom
a hiking at all and be going out in those

(13:08):
conditions and not being afraid.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
I saw a lot of that on the road trip,
like people just like climbing up mountains randomly, like no
harnesses and shit.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Free, free climbing free solo. Remember that documentary, Yeah, that
was that guy's real, real neat. I don't know, but
I mean it's it's it's it's really crazy that he's
able to do that. But I feel like I haven't
watched in a while, but I feel like being like
like the guy was like off or something, and.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I don't know, Oh my god, I don't know. I
just can't fathom doing this.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
And I mean, this guy survived, but it's still embarrassing
if true that he felt while trying to take a
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(14:20):
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So we try to keep it themed on the holidays
that are happening or whatever's going on, and I just

(14:43):
want to talk about I'm trying to think of what
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The guy that the guy that killed his wife and
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Speaker 2 (15:08):
Okay, So this kid swallowed an earbud, but the story's great.
I love it. So a three year.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Old's followed an AirPod and while everyone's freaking out about
what to do about her is following it, her uncle
decides he was gonna hook up his phone to the
AirPod and try to play a song and try to
hear it by putting his ear up to her belly.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
And it worked. It worked, and it pissed everybody off.
Everybody got so pissed. I don't know. I think he
was like, Hey, I'm just trying to lighten the mood here,
you know. I don't know. I don't think that there's
anything wrong with it. I mean, he was just trying
to be funny. You know, you have people in your
life that are like, it's just like, I mean, from

(15:50):
a parent perspective, I would be freaking out right. Yeah,
And I think just to let you guys know, like
if your kid ever swallows an ear what are they
called AirPod? I call them wrong all the time, and
the kids make fun of me all the time. I
call them like earbuds, and I.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's the general generic name for them is earbud.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Yeah, I don't know. They make fun of me every
time I open my mouth. So so anyway, I would
if my kids swallowed one of them, I think you
should go to the hospital because number one, especially this
kid was what three or four? Yeah? Three, Like they
have like pretty little intestines, and if that thing turns sideways,

(16:33):
it could be pretty big, so it could get stuck.
It could push through the wall. But they also probably
have batteries, Like do they have batteries in them? They
have to write if they're working cordless.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Like that, Yeah, they have. I don't understand how will
they they charge in the case. So there has to
be some type of battery with an individual AirPod that
then is getting charged in the case somehow.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Yeah. So so like that, and the Lithian I on
batteries and stuff. They're terrible to ingest They could be
errosive to the lining of the bow and could put
a hole through the bow. Like it's it's a situation
that I think needs to go to the emergency room
right away. So I do see why the parents are
like all uptight about it, but still like, come on,

(17:19):
I like it's I think it's like a cool story
to tell the kid too. Like imagine if like Uncle
Louis was like, yeah, I remember that time you swallowed an era,
but and I like was playing music through your stomach,
Like it's a funny story. It didn't hurt anybody, Like
the uncle posted.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
The whole story on Reddit, and it seems everybody was
on his side.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
That it was.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
And it's like it's kind of like a cool science experiment,
like will this work through the human body? And it did.
I wonder what song it was. I know.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I wish they'd leave or say details like that, because
it would just make it even more interesting. Okay, So
Peru has reported the first case of a baby born
after an ectopic pregnancy in the liver. I thought all
ectopic pregnancies were not considered viable.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, are you a member of the grocer room because
I wrote about it twice this week?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Have you?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Oh, you were on vacation.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
I'm also pregnant, and I don't really want to read
any related story.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
You don't have an ectopic pregnancy. We know it's in
your unit. Gives me, Oh my god, stop being a
Stop being such a drama queen. So we had two
cases in the grocerroom this week of ectopic pregnancy because
the first one was the report of a mom who
so she had no prenatal care and had no idea

(18:37):
that she had an ectopic pregnancy, and she presented late term.
I believe she was thirty six ish weeks and when
they opened her stomach to take out well, they did
the incision to take out the baby, the uterus wasn't there,
and they came across this big mass which ended up

(18:58):
being a placent to intact with a baby moving underneath
of it that was attached to the outside of her
uterus like it was in her abdomen. So and they
they they saved the mom's life and they saved the
baby's life. Like it's super super rare because they're highly
they're they're really really can be deadly. So then I

(19:22):
showed another case of a woman who had the same
exact thing and she died from it, and I showed
what that would look like at autopsy. So what happens
is when in a normal pregnancy, obviously it's supposed to
grow inside of the uterus, but when the sperm goes

(19:43):
up and goes to meet the egg in the fallopian tube,
it's supposed to then travel back down into the uterus
where it should start forming the baby, and that's where
the pregnancy should be. But when the egg is released
during ovulation, there there's like a brief moment in time
where that egg leaves is kind of like in the

(20:06):
air or in it's in the cavity, the abdominal cavity
or the pelvic cavity in between the ovary and the
Filippian tube before it grabs it. And if the egg
gets fertilized in that little space there, it can grow
outside of the uterus, or if it gets fertilized inside

(20:26):
of the filopian tube, it could grow inside the filopian tube.
So anytime a pregnancy grows anywhere except the uterus, then
it's called an ectopic pregnancy. So the most common ectopic
pregnancies are filipian tube ones. Least common is abdominal ones.
So that means it would just like happen right outside

(20:46):
of the ovary or the filoppian tube. Usually like adheres
to the uterus, but in this case, it adhere to
the liver, which is it's never it's been documented before,
but it's never been documented that they decided to monitor
her and she went full term and didn't die, and

(21:08):
the baby didn't die.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, I mean this baby was almost eight pounds.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
It's really it's really really crazy because it's so dangerous
for so many reasons. Because you have to think, like
so number one, when the placenta under normal conditions. When
the placenta is growing inside of the uterus, it grows
this certain layer underneath of it called the decidua, and
that is a layer that's between the placenta itself and

(21:35):
the uterus. So after you have the baby, it' should
just like slide right on out, and it doesn't because
you have this this thing that's growing like almost like
a tumor. You don't want it to start invading your uterus.
You want it to come out when it's jobs done well.
When you have these kinds of abdominal pregnancies, and this

(21:56):
one with delivered, you don't have that l you don't
get that layer that that grows and there's not it
almost grows into the organ like like a tumor would
like it adheres to it. And because it's such a
vascular organ, especially the liver is such a vascular organ too,
the risk of any minor injury like making that tearing

(22:18):
that could kill the the woman had the and the
baby as well. But also when a pregnancy is inside
of the uterus, it you the uterus is like a
big like shield of armor of muscle around the baby.
So like if you get in a car accident or
or you get I don't know, your kids are having

(22:39):
like passing a ball around and you get hit by accident,
Like it's supposed to be like a like a shock
absorber for the pregnancy, and when the baby is in
the abdominal cavity like that, there's no protection for it whatsoever.
So and any minor trauma could just cause a huge problem.
So someone so I did post about this in the grocerroom.

(23:02):
Someone in the grocer room asked me if this was
considered to be like eligible for termination, and I said,
I'm sure, Like I don't, like I said, I don't
work in that field of obstetrics, but I would I
would think that if if a woman came and had
an abdominal pregnancy, that they would encourage termination because it

(23:23):
is so deadly. But in these two cases, the one
that I presented in the grocerym in this one right now,
the baby did live, but to be monitored like that
is really really taking a risk for both the mom
and the baby.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Yeah, I mean, I just can't even believe this is
even like considered viable and they'd risk her going through all.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
I don't know, I don't know, like what the circumstances
were it almost like it's if she was in the
hospital and could really be monitored like that. But I
can't imagine that anyone would put the resources for that.
It just would scare me so much to leave the
house in a car even you know what I mean.

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I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
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people based on my experience working in pathology, so they
can make healthier disas decisions regarding their life and well being.
Always remember that science is changing every day, and the

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