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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we
are going to get into genetic tests like Ancestry or
twenty three and me that show people who have children
they didn't know about, including a very famous father. Tray
Cyrus is accusing his ex of faking really serious things
like cancer and pregnancy. I didn't realize who this chick
(00:42):
was either, so that we're going to get into talking
about that a little bit. Of course, we have to
talk about Maria's favorite topic in the world, which is
the Titanic submersible. There's new news coming out that it
may be a planned it may have been a planned suicide,
like is the did you hear that before today?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's crazy, And the unusual effect ozepic seems to be
having on men's penises. All that and more on today's episode,
Let's get started with this very famous dad who just
found out that he's a dad again.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Okay, So Billy Idel has a new documentary coming out
and in it he revealed that he found out in
his sixties he had a third child. So all this
time he thought he was only the father of two kids,
a boy and their girl, who are now in their
mid thirties. So when his daughter became a mother, she
got really interested in exploring their family tree. Her husband
had bought her a gift for twenty three and Me
(01:39):
DNA kid, and then when she did it, she ended
up pinging this brother.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah and so the brother at the same time, he
didn't what was the question? He didn't He had a
question of who his dad was too.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah, so I guess when he did twenty three and Me.
Prior to this, he found out that his biological father,
who he thought was his biology father, was not. So
then he asked his mom about it and she said, well,
I'm not really sure, but believe it or not. Back
in the eighties, I had a weekend with Billy Idol.
And of course, if your mom's telling you something like that,
(02:12):
you're probably like, you're totally making this up, like you
wouldn't even believe it. But it turns out in this
case it was true.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
The whole thing is so crazy to me because it's like, yeah,
he said to his mom, like, is there anyone else
that could be Like she didn't think that he because
he looks like him. Yeah, in the picture, like there
was no thing that she was like, Oh no, he
looks like a little bit like Billy Idol. I don't know.
So I mean it's good that it's cool that he's
(02:40):
like embracing him though, one hundred percent, because sometimes you
hear stories about that that. I just saw an article
actually about Arnold Schwarzenegger had this photo with all of
his kids on it, but like the other kid got snubbed,
you know, the one with the well I've talked about that,
(03:00):
the one with it with the cleaning lady. Yeah, so
a housekeeper. So yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I think it's super cool he's embracing it because his
daughter has a couple of kids, and then his long
lost son has a couple of kids. So he's like
fully embracing having a third child and being the grandfather
to these grandkids he didn't know about either. So that's
pretty cool. I mean, because this happens to a bunch
of people and they want to act like it's not
a thing.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I know it does.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And I guess, like being a married person to a guy, right,
you're just kind of like, I guess this could just
creep up any day, like you don't really ever know, right, Yeah,
it's it's I mean, it's like it's kind of scary
actually that there's really interesting things and like what's up
with twenty three and me? Anyway? Because I got another
email from them saying something about the bankruptcy.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Thing, Like I think that another company just bought them out,
so they're gonna be taking over operations or at least
the day is gonna be secure for some time, which
is everybody's concerned obviously.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, I mean, it's it sucks because I think I
think that it's it's a good tool, and it sucks
that they can't get their shit together with that, because
I do think it is it's helpful. I mean, I'm
sure that test is terrible for some people that find out,
you know, I mean, like it worked out well in
this case, but imagine thinking someone was your dad and
(04:24):
your whole life and then finding out he's not your
dad and stuff, like people get devastating news all the
time from it, but also like this woman found the
brother and like the happy news comes out of it too,
So it's just I don't know, I think it's a
good thing because it finds certain genes that people have
and could tell you if you need to get screening
for something. It's pretty cool, you know what I was
(04:45):
thinking though when I saw this sale. Weren't they at
one time evaluated at like over a billion dollars and
then they only got sold. I'm saying only, like, I know,
this is a large amount of money, but they sold
for about two hundred million dollars. So I just think
it's kind of crazy that you're companies worth so much
money at one point and only a couple of years later. Well,
(05:05):
they're probably giving it away for a good deal, because
I mean think like with it with the data breach
and all that shit, that's like all their money probably
went to lawyers and stuff for all that stuff. Oh yeah,
And I mean I just can't even fathom that amount
of money when people just talk about, like when you
talk about like our country's debt and they say it's
(05:25):
like trillions of dollars, Like, it's really hard to wrap
your mind around that being actual money. Like how much
money that actually is? Oh yeah, when you're like a
regular person.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Well obviously, and by saying two hundred million dollars isn't
a lot, I mean compared to the evaluation. Oh yeah,
it's like a crazy amount money.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Great, so let's get into this next story because this
is like I didn't realize that this that this woman
that Trey Cyrus dated for a couple of years because
I thought she looked familiar and it was. It said
he said that she was a childhood star, so I
looked it up to see who she was. I still
don't really know who she was from a child Well,
this is more for my age group because she was
(06:05):
big on Disney Channel. She was on The Sweet Life
in Zach of Cody, which was a huge show when
I was alone. I don't even know what those are.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
So Trey Cyrus, who is Miley Cyrus's brother, and Brenda
Song who we're talking about in this story, we're in
an on and off relationship from twenty ten to twenty
seventeen until she met Macaulay Culkin, who she's now engaged
to and has kids with.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So yeah, so that's why I saw her because he
recently didn't he just like this year get the Hollywood Star.
It was like this year or last year, and he
went to that to go there and she was with
him because they have kids together.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Well, she's not a nobody. She's in a really successful
Netflix show called Running Point that just came out with
Mindy Kayling and Kate Hudson.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So she's not like them as a child star in
a row.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I'm just saying, like, that's that I recognized her from
being with him.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, so this is all really weird how this went down.
So I guess somebody left a comment on TRACE's Instagram saying, ah,
we know why Brenda left, and then he replied to
the comment and said it was triggering. It really set
him off, which was weird. So he replies to the
comment and says, yes, because she stole thousands of dollars
(07:16):
from me and faked multiple pregnancies and lied about being
terminally ill to make my family and I think she
had breast cancer and a brain tumor, but it was
all a lie. She was humiliated to ever show her
face around my family again once we figured it out
and my mom confronted her and called her out on it.
Thanks for reminding me of another scenario where I was
a great, loving person and someone did me wrong for
(07:36):
no reason. Then he follows it up with, oh, she
also faked an abortion with fake blood covering the bathroom floor,
and my mom and I rushed her to the obgui
n That's when all her lies started unraveling and we
realized it was fake.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
She he said that she had said that she got
tumor too or had surgery to remove her brain tumors,
and went over their head else and he ripped off
her bandages and she had no surgery. Yeah, So he
so that that's like seriously pathologic.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
So he leaves the comments that I just said and
then what you were saying. He then is like, I'm
not done with this. So then he goes on his
story and posts about this how her faking the brain surgery.
He also said there's more proof of how fucked in
the head child stars are. I hope she's doing better mentally.
I think this is very surprising because in the past
(08:30):
he's spoken about her pretty positively in the press. But
I mean, I guess you don't want to air aw
your dirty laundry out to everybody.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And why did this one.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Comment just set him off on this rampage to finally
reveal all of this after almost ten years.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
I don't know, but it's kind of juicy, honestly, like
that that is like some psycho shit right there, for real,
if it's true. If it's true. But I could kind
of see it's funny that Tish is getting involved in
this because I could kind of visually picture it just
because like I just I just see it like I
see it. And it's interesting that he's calling her a
(09:10):
child star and saying that she's screwed up, because what
perfect person to be with them? McCaulay culkin.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Well, yeah, that is a really interesting theory. I didn't
even really think about that, that they're both like distressed
child stars.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That are now together.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
But I think people have really been idolizing their relationship
because they're kind of cute together and they have these
cute little kids, and they seem to have this loving relationship.
Mccaullay culkin even made a guest appearance in the show
She's in on Netflix, and it was funny.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Maybe she grew out of it. How do you grow
out of behavior like this? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I mean, maybe this is like a weird thing to
dating an actress or an actor that they're very that
they could totally like play off this role and and
get away with it. The abortion and the fake blood
thing is is or is really neat or miss carriage?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
She had her an abortion whatever he said, an abortion
with fake blood?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Well he I.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Feel like he probably meant miscarriage because wouldn't that mean
that she gave herself an abortion in their home bathroom.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Maybe I mean, technically a miscarriage, just caught a spontaneous abortion.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
So oh.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I also wanted to say on last week's episode, I
misspoke that Laura Michelle Owens was federally indicted. I meant
she was indicted by the state, more specifically Maricopa County,
where all the weird things happen in the world. Wait,
who who are you talking the fake pregnancy story we
talked about last week? So what did you say wrong?
I mistakenly said she was federally indicted. She was indicted,
(10:39):
but by Maricopa County.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Oh okay, big mistake.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Good thing.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Well, somebody had to point it out, so I was like, sorry,
I misspeak sometimes I'm a human. I do think this
is interesting because for all the reasons I said before
him speaking positively about her in the past, her being
on this Netflix show, I feel like she's generally pretty
well liked in the public eye. So I wonder how
this is going to go down. I haven't seen her
(11:05):
speak out about this at all.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Why would you?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh, I feel like either if this shit didn't happen. Well, yeah,
like if somebody said that about me, I'd be like, okay,
you know, like you would fight back if that wasn't true.
It is just like I said, I think she grew
out of it.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And a side note, I saw Trey Cyrus a metro
station when I was fifteen years old, and I hysterically
cried when I took a picture with it.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Where's the loser? I am? Well, I saw like runner.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I know, I have so many good pictures that I
don't know where they're at from that weird time period
of like okay, you didn't carry around a film camera anymore,
but because you had like this shitty razor phone. You know,
there's like that period of time from let me think
of what you're like, two thousand and five to two
(11:58):
thousand and fifteen. Maybe you would say like that ten
year period of just like well, fifteen's probably even early,
but you know, like when iPhones got so good and
then you had the cloud and your pictures are safe.
I have, like I had some weird digital camera. I
don't know where any the whole time I was at
Drexel too, I can't. I can't find any of the
(12:19):
pictures I took with my friends for like those two years.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah, because that was when we had talked about the
Doubleware's produc drummer that died recently. I know for a
fact I had a picture with him, but I took
it probably on one of my earliest nicons that you
bought me. And I'm like, I have no idea where
those yeah, because remember.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You had to put it like on the card, and
you had to put it on your computer, and then
you get a new computer and then it's like it's
not anywhere. Yeah, it just sucks. Okay. So finally, like Maria,
I know you've been dying to talk about this all week,
the tight Titanic submersible. Now there's like this drama associated
with it.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
So I could not wait for this documentary, as if
talked about a lot on here, and then I watched
it as soon as I could Wednesday night, the day
it came out. And then of course afterwards, I just
had a million nightmares about the cruise. I thought they
were different enough that it wouldn't bother me. I hate
to say it, but I think the documentary left a
lot to be desired. I didn't think it was that crazy.
(13:19):
I didn't think it had any information. But this article
we were talking about is about this book that came
out recently basically suggesting that Stockton Rush was on a
suicide mission by going down there and knew what he
was doing. And this person's accusing him of.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Being a murderer.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
But this person's like his one of his best friends, right. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
So this book is called Submersed, Wonder, Obsession and Murder
in the World of Amateur Submarines, written by Carl Stanley.
So he's an expert in commercial submersibles and he was
a good friend of Stockton Rush. So they actually covered
in the Netflix documentary that this guy had gone on
one of the test dives in the Bahamas and he
had written this email to Stockton Rush afterwards telling him
(14:02):
he had like serious concerns with the vessel, and of course,
because you're dealing with an absolute asshole, narcissist, he was like,
nothing's wrong with it. You don't know what you're talking about.
So that's kind of what the documentary revealed. The whole
time is that any time an employee spoke out about
the safety issues or things that could go wrong, they
just got fired. So you want to think that somebody
(14:25):
could be held criminally liable for this, but Stockton Rush
seems to be the only person that could have been
held responsible for because everybody else truly had their ass covered.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So his friend honestly believes that he wanted to kill
himself and he wanted to go down in history with
this like big dramatic event that was also connected to
the Titanic. So every time you talk about the Titanic,
you'll be like, oh, remember that guy, he died in
this submersible. Like it's kind of a good theory, honestly,
(14:56):
Like it sounds believable for how this guy was.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Yeah, the quotes from this article from Carl Stanley, where
Russia's ego was so big he was willing to die
and kill to be a pivotal to the character in
the story. Then he also said he wanted to die
at the wreck of the Titanic. The more high profile
the better. He didn't just murder four wealthy people and
get paid a cool meal to do it. They're all
part of the Titanic mythology now, so that really is
(15:20):
interesting because his wife had family ties to the Titanic
and he was so interested in this. He was on
this mission to make this work. And the sad part
is I think he could if he did it the
right way. But I think this hot term everybody's using
right now is a disruptor, right. I think he wanted
to be this disruptor in this submersible industry by making
(15:42):
this new vessel out of this unexplored material. But this
is ultimately what bit him in the ass well.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Or he did in a purpose, or he did I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, I mean, like, it's kind of weird to think
that you have a best friend and then they write
a book about you when you die and say like things.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Through a dick.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, exactly, Like it's kind of interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Like other things from the documentary I took that were
interesting was that Boeing was helping out with making of
it first, and then.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
You see you you really like slacked this week when
we were talking about in the last episode the Indian Airplane,
because that was a Boeing. I didn't hear you say
anything about it.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Well, I'm trying not to get sued.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It's so dark, but like, that's just fact.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
It was like when you were bowing Truther and I
have been for a decade. So you heard it here first.
Maybe that's a merch we can make. That's definitely grounds
for all suit.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
But yeah, and also like, so now that you're a
Boeing truther, or don't you think that there's anything a
little suss about the guy that came out of the
Ball of Flames wearing a white T shirt on his phone.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Wow, I'm just putting it out there.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I think I think, statistically, or maybe not statistically, I
think Pry Boeing's been having a problematic last couple of
years and this incident with the Dreamliner is really not
helping out.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
That happen in India.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
And then you know, I'm watching this documentary about a
submersible and oh look, it turns out they were helping
them at first. They I don't believe they helped construct
the Titan, but they were working with ocean Gate at some.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Point in time.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Another thing that was interesting was apparently they had these
microphones planted all over the vessel so that they could
hear the cracks, and by the end of it, that
guy was just like, I don't even want to hear
the cracks, like my thing's perfect. So well, and then
by the end of it, they interviewed this YouTuber that
was supposed to go on the Titan and the weather
(17:41):
was bad so the trip got rescheduled and he couldn't
go on the rescheduled trip, and then a couple of
days later is when the implosion happened, so he theory
would have been on the fatal trip. Yeah, hearing stories
like that sometimes when you're like, well, that even happened
to us that time that our apartment blew up. I
don't even know if we ever told that story, but
our apartment blew up one day that we had just
(18:03):
moved out of and it happened on like a Saturday
at three o'clock. And if we had not moved out
and moved into Gabe's house, then like we would have
been there during the day because typically, like when I
was working at the hospital from you know, like nine
to five whatever, it would be like the weekends, especially
on Saturdays, once we got all our errands done and stuff,
(18:26):
like we would just chill and like maybe watch a
movie or just like hang out and we would have
been there when it blew up and that. You know,
like when you hear about those stories, you're just like
you really believe in fate sometimes when you hear stuff
like that. Speaking of nine to five, I was talking
to my friend Amanda about Loubert's dancer sit all over
the weekend and she said they had done Dolly Partons
(18:48):
nine to five when she was in dance and they
had suitcases that when they turned them around, it said
nine to.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Five on them. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I was like, I need video and picture of this immediately.
It sounds cool. But yeah, I mean, this is the
classic case of a guy that really, you know, I
kind of feel like Mark Zuckerberg's like this too, Like
my product is perfect.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Nobody could tell me what to do. I know what
I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
You don't know anything, and then look what happens, like
all these people are dead.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You look like an idiot at the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
He did if if what his friend is saying is
true that he wanted to be part of the Titanic lore,
then I guess that's true.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
It kind of like, really, it kind of makes sense.
I don't think it's far fetched at all.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
No, I just think it's like crazy. I agree with you,
it's crazy that your friend would say something like that.
But if it's true, it's true. This episode is brought
to you by the Grosser Room.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So, speaking of the Titanic submersible, we did a high
profile death to section on that was that like two
years ago already.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, we did it right when it happened in June
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, So it was cool though, and I this was
before they even really talked about how the people died.
But I think that we pretty much nowed it from
the beginning. So if you guys want to read that,
it's two parts, right or maybe not. I think it's one,
really a really big one.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Though, because remember I went to Tennessee the day after
we wrote it, and then the Titanic Museum in Pigeonforge
was like pop and everybody had to take a new
interest in it.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
So so with that documentary just coming out, we decided
to write one about the original in a ridge case
of a similar type of death, which was the Buifer
dolphin situation with the divers back in the early eighties.
I think it was nineteen eighty three. Yeah, So we
just were doing a two part dis section on that
(20:48):
this week. So this week Maria started with just some
of the facts about the case, and we really go
through all of it, like exactly what happened, and then
we try to break down, for example, like why they
were even because it's confusing to a lay person to
read some of that stuff. So we really spent all
day kind of going through that and figuring that out
for the part one, and then part two is going
(21:10):
to be all of the autopsies and like what did
their bodies look like, how did they die? What did
the medical examiner see when they performed the autopsies on
these people? So so that'll be coming out next week.
So check that out.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yeah, head over to the gross room dot com to
sign up.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
All right, let's talk about ozemp Dick was sometimes we
alternate who starts the story after the ad and I
was about to say that same exact sent. Okay, So
people are using ozempic and we're starting to see some
of the other side effects it's having besides you know,
weight loss and treatment for diabetes. But one of the
(21:47):
new side effects is that it's apparently making men's penises larger.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
The most disturbing part of this story is that all
of these guys are saying, oh, it's grown one point
five inches, it's grown since last time I measured it, this, that,
and the other. And you're just like, this is like
specific to men, right, because like the women would never
pull out a tape measure or a roller and like
measure the size of their body part like that, would they? No,
(22:13):
of course, because it's so it's so weird. It's like weird,
and it's even more weird that guys are doing it
multiple times throughout their life to see if it's changing
in size. And I'm telling you, the ozempic has nothing
to do with your dick size. It's because of your
your pubic mound. Do you know your mom's pubis It
stands for a pubic mound. It's so gross. It just
(22:34):
reminds me of like a picture's mound or something that's
over top of your pubic bone. But that's it. That's fat,
it's and it's there to protect your pelvis, right. It's
like a big ball of fat there. So when you
get fat, it gets bigger and then your penis starts sinking.
Into it. There's a thing called hidden penis, Like it
could get all the way hidden inside of there if
(22:55):
with obesity, especially like really high BMIs and stuff like
dudes can't even see their penis.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Well, what do you say to the one that argued
that point to say, he measured himself when he was
skinnier and he has definitely gained an inch.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
He's he's wrong. It's just not it's just not like
and like if you think about it, like if it
depends on like what kind of ruler you use, how
much you push it in, Like if you really go
not to get graphic, but if you go on like
a guy's mond's pubis and really push it down, you
could give them like another five inches, Like right, it's
(23:31):
just not five not five inches, but half an inch,
like do you know what I mean? Like you can
make it bigger or smaller depending on how you're looking
at it. Well, how it goes kind of deep down
into there.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
You know, how much money do you think ozempic's going
to be getting in research now now that it is
potentially helping them have bigger dicks?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Oh god, the people are going not spuying this shit anyway, right,
Like yeah, I mean for it'll be for the side
effects of it. Now, like men just want to go
on it because I don't think that there's any clinical
or scientific evidence that says that it's making their their
penis is bigger. One thing to take into consideration is,
(24:12):
especially with the obesity, with the drug working, it's improving
blood flow and that could have something to do with
it too, that they're just getting stronger erections, which would
make the penis seem bigger than it is, but it's not.
There's no evidence to suggest that anything in it is
actually growing their penis.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
So ridiculous, it really is, Okay, So at TikToker is
claiming that after buying a bag of mixed nuts from Costco,
she found live worms crawling out of the nuts. So
last week it was the oat milk, this week it's
the Costco nuts. And there are like the video is disturbing.
You see live worms in it, Like it is gross,
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it is, but I want to just say, like she's saying,
nowhere on it does it's take could possibly contain bugs?
That's insane, like why would it? And it's also something
that grows from the earth, so like there is the
potential no, there is.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And like I sent you a picture last week that
I had, So I had a head of broccoli that
but it came from like Amazon Fresh or whatever, and
it was in a plastic bag when I got it.
So all I did was I like rinsed it under
the sink real quick, and I caught it up and
I boiled it and made it for dinner. So Lucia
(25:26):
is like getting ready to bite into this florette and
she's like, what is this? And I look at it close,
and it was like a little tiny white worm. It's
probably like a caterpillar thing. It wasn't like a maggot.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
That's what I thought it was when you sent me
the picture.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I don't think so. I think it was like a
little caterpillar thing. So and and and like clearly wherever
it got picked, it got stuck in a bag and
it was just there, right, But like and obviously none
of us wanted to eat it, because I'm like I did,
like you know, when there there's never one bug, there's
never one bug, right, So my whole thing is like,
(26:02):
oh my god, Like I didn't see them enough the
rints off, didn't get them off, and like there's more
in this food, and I don't want to eat this
food because I had mixed after I boiled it up,
I like mixed it in the sauce of the thing
I was making, and like nobody wanted to eat after
that because we're like there's worms every including me, but
that like I don't get upset about that because I'm
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just like, this thing grows outside and there's bugs, Like
there's bugs all over my plants outside all the time.
There's unless you like spray the shit out of them
with pesticides, they're not going to go away. And you
don't really want that stuff on your food anyway. And
like the thing is is like if one of them
has eggs when it gets into the bag, then all
of a sudden you have a colony, right, And that's
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probably what happened in this case, But it's just so
gross to see it.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, it's gross. I just think like things like this
can happen with food.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I don't know it.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
It's disgusting and it bothers me, but it's not that far.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Fetched that it could.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
She was posting like it not being expired. I don't
think the expiration has anything to do with it. It
probably was fresh. But like you have, you have an
ecosystem in there where like animals could thrive because they
have something to eat off of, so they could just
keep on reproducing and living there. I mean it, It
is nasty for sure, but we eat bugs all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah, and we just don't know. Do you know?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
One of my when I was in when I took
biology when I was in college, one of my teachers
he said that one of his friends had a job
where he would look at ketchup under the microscope all
day and count how many bug parts per million were
under the microscope. He was he was a scientist and
that's what he did for a living. That's discussing because
like you get you because there was a certain level
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that was considered to be okay for human consumption. And
it's the same thing with like a fig Newton or
anything like that. If you look at that under the microscope,
there's lots of pieces of bugs under it. It's just
like it's impossible to pick that amount of tomatoes and
not get bugs mixed in with it.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
I don't even think I added this story for this week,
But this hiker was missing for a couple of days,
and you survive the days he was missing on eating bugs.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Well, so see what you gotta do. Sometimes you have
to eat a person. Sometimes you have to eat a bug.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
I mean some cultures eat bugs. Like it's not that
far fetched. It's not ideal if you don't like it.
But it's like, it's not like they spilled the chemical
on the nuts and they were selling them.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
It's part of nature.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I saw this video of this some delicacy. I don't
know where it was exactly. It was somewhere like not
in America, I'll say that right. There was this like
log that was floating in the ocean, and the people
cut the log in half and inside are like these
worm things. And I don't know if they're a sea
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creature or if they're a worm or what they are,
but they're like these white, gelatinous looking worms. And people
were taking them out of the holes and like eating
them alive.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
That's reminding me of the animation of the Lion King
when they're like eating the bugs.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I don't know. Yeah, popped in my mind.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, exactly, that's what that's what it was like. And
it was like some delicacy or something. And I'm like, eh, no,
thanks to quote mom, mom, if that's what you like.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
All right, guys, we have the Atlanta Meet and Greek
coming up on July eleventh, and then we have a
Crime and Wine at the Georgia's Writer Museum on July twelfth,
both hosted by the wonderful Zone seven host Cheryl mac McCullum.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, so you'll get to meet her too, which I
would go just to meet her, not me, but Maria's
gonna be there, and I'm gonna have books for sale,
so it could sign books. It'll be awesome and a
good lucture too.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah, we're gonna have a really good time. So tickets
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See you.
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Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we
are going to get into genetic tests like Ancestry or
twenty three and me that show people who have children
they didn't know about, including a very famous father. Tray
Cyrus is accusing his ex of faking really serious things
like cancer and pregnancy. I didn't realize who this chick
(00:42):
was either, so that we're going to get into talking
about that a little bit. Of course, we have to
talk about Maria's favorite topic in the world, which is
the Titanic submersible. There's new news coming out that it
may be a planned it may have been a planned suicide,
like is the did you hear that before today?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's crazy, And the unusual effect ozepic seems to be
having on men's penises. All that and more on today's episode,
Let's get started with this very famous dad who just
found out that he's a dad again.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Okay, So Billy Idel has a new documentary coming out
and in it he revealed that he found out in
his sixties he had a third child. So all this
time he thought he was only the father of two kids,
a boy and their girl, who are now in their
mid thirties. So when his daughter became a mother, she
got really interested in exploring their family tree. Her husband
had bought her a gift for twenty three and Me
(01:39):
DNA kid, and then when she did it, she ended
up pinging this brother.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah and so the brother at the same time, he
didn't what was the question? He didn't He had a
question of who his dad was too.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Yeah, so I guess when he did twenty three and Me.
Prior to this, he found out that his biological father,
who he thought was his biology father, was not. So
then he asked his mom about it and she said, well,
I'm not really sure, but believe it or not. Back
in the eighties, I had a weekend with Billy Idol.
And of course, if your mom's telling you something like that,
(02:12):
you're probably like, you're totally making this up, like you
wouldn't even believe it. But it turns out in this
case it was true.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
The whole thing is so crazy to me because it's like, yeah,
he said to his mom, like, is there anyone else
that could be Like she didn't think that he because
he looks like him. Yeah, in the picture, like there
was no thing that she was like, Oh no, he
looks like a little bit like Billy Idol. I don't know.
So I mean it's good that it's cool that he's
(02:40):
like embracing him though, one hundred percent, because sometimes you
hear stories about that that. I just saw an article
actually about Arnold Schwarzenegger had this photo with all of
his kids on it, but like the other kid got snubbed,
you know, the one with the well I've talked about that,
(03:00):
the one with it with the cleaning lady. Yeah, so
a housekeeper. So yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I think it's super cool he's embracing it because his
daughter has a couple of kids, and then his long
lost son has a couple of kids. So he's like
fully embracing having a third child and being the grandfather
to these grandkids he didn't know about either. So that's
pretty cool. I mean, because this happens to a bunch
of people and they want to act like it's not
a thing.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I know it does.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
And I guess, like being a married person to a guy, right,
you're just kind of like, I guess this could just
creep up any day, like you don't really ever know, right, Yeah,
it's it's I mean, it's like it's kind of scary
actually that there's really interesting things and like what's up
with twenty three and me? Anyway? Because I got another
email from them saying something about the bankruptcy.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Thing, Like I think that another company just bought them out,
so they're gonna be taking over operations or at least
the day is gonna be secure for some time, which
is everybody's concerned obviously.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, I mean, it's it sucks because I think I
think that it's it's a good tool, and it sucks
that they can't get their shit together with that, because
I do think it is it's helpful. I mean, I'm
sure that test is terrible for some people that find out,
you know, I mean, like it worked out well in
this case, but imagine thinking someone was your dad and
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your whole life and then finding out he's not your
dad and stuff, like people get devastating news all the
time from it, but also like this woman found the
brother and like the happy news comes out of it too,
So it's just I don't know, I think it's a
good thing because it finds certain genes that people have
and could tell you if you need to get screening
for something. It's pretty cool, you know what I was
(04:45):
thinking though when I saw this sale. Weren't they at
one time evaluated at like over a billion dollars and
then they only got sold. I'm saying only, like, I know,
this is a large amount of money, but they sold
for about two hundred million dollars. So I just think
it's kind of crazy that you're companies worth so much
money at one point and only a couple of years later. Well,
(05:05):
they're probably giving it away for a good deal, because
I mean think like with it with the data breach
and all that shit, that's like all their money probably
went to lawyers and stuff for all that stuff. Oh yeah,
And I mean I just can't even fathom that amount
of money when people just talk about, like when you
talk about like our country's debt and they say it's
(05:25):
like trillions of dollars, Like, it's really hard to wrap
your mind around that being actual money. Like how much
money that actually is? Oh yeah, when you're like a
regular person.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Well obviously, and by saying two hundred million dollars isn't
a lot, I mean compared to the evaluation. Oh yeah,
it's like a crazy amount money.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Great, so let's get into this next story because this
is like I didn't realize that this that this woman
that Trey Cyrus dated for a couple of years because
I thought she looked familiar and it was. It said
he said that she was a childhood star, so I
looked it up to see who she was. I still
don't really know who she was from a child Well,
this is more for my age group because she was
(06:05):
big on Disney Channel. She was on The Sweet Life
in Zach of Cody, which was a huge show when
I was alone. I don't even know what those are.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
So Trey Cyrus, who is Miley Cyrus's brother, and Brenda
Song who we're talking about in this story, we're in
an on and off relationship from twenty ten to twenty
seventeen until she met Macaulay Culkin, who she's now engaged
to and has kids with.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
So yeah, so that's why I saw her because he
recently didn't he just like this year get the Hollywood Star.
It was like this year or last year, and he
went to that to go there and she was with
him because they have kids together.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Well, she's not a nobody. She's in a really successful
Netflix show called Running Point that just came out with
Mindy Kayling and Kate Hudson.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So she's not like them as a child star in
a row.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I'm just saying, like, that's that I recognized her from
being with him.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, so this is all really weird how this went down.
So I guess somebody left a comment on TRACE's Instagram saying, ah,
we know why Brenda left, and then he replied to
the comment and said it was triggering. It really set
him off, which was weird. So he replies to the
comment and says, yes, because she stole thousands of dollars
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from me and faked multiple pregnancies and lied about being
terminally ill to make my family and I think she
had breast cancer and a brain tumor, but it was
all a lie. She was humiliated to ever show her
face around my family again once we figured it out
and my mom confronted her and called her out on it.
Thanks for reminding me of another scenario where I was
a great, loving person and someone did me wrong for
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no reason. Then he follows it up with, oh, she
also faked an abortion with fake blood covering the bathroom floor,
and my mom and I rushed her to the obgui
n That's when all her lies started unraveling and we
realized it was fake.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
She he said that she had said that she got
tumor too or had surgery to remove her brain tumors,
and went over their head else and he ripped off
her bandages and she had no surgery. Yeah, So he
so that that's like seriously pathologic.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
So he leaves the comments that I just said and
then what you were saying. He then is like, I'm
not done with this. So then he goes on his
story and posts about this how her faking the brain surgery.
He also said there's more proof of how fucked in
the head child stars are. I hope she's doing better mentally.
I think this is very surprising because in the past
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he's spoken about her pretty positively in the press. But
I mean, I guess you don't want to air aw
your dirty laundry out to everybody.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
And why did this one.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Comment just set him off on this rampage to finally
reveal all of this after almost ten years.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
I don't know, but it's kind of juicy, honestly, like
that that is like some psycho shit right there, for real,
if it's true. If it's true. But I could kind
of see it's funny that Tish is getting involved in
this because I could kind of visually picture it just
because like I just I just see it like I
see it. And it's interesting that he's calling her a
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child star and saying that she's screwed up, because what
perfect person to be with them? McCaulay culkin.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Well, yeah, that is a really interesting theory. I didn't
even really think about that, that they're both like distressed
child stars.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That are now together.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
But I think people have really been idolizing their relationship
because they're kind of cute together and they have these
cute little kids, and they seem to have this loving relationship.
Mccaullay culkin even made a guest appearance in the show
She's in on Netflix, and it was funny.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Maybe she grew out of it. How do you grow
out of behavior like this? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I mean, maybe this is like a weird thing to
dating an actress or an actor that they're very that
they could totally like play off this role and and
get away with it. The abortion and the fake blood
thing is is or is really neat or miss carriage?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
She had her an abortion whatever he said, an abortion
with fake blood?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Well he I.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Feel like he probably meant miscarriage because wouldn't that mean
that she gave herself an abortion in their home bathroom.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Maybe I mean, technically a miscarriage, just caught a spontaneous abortion.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
So oh.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I also wanted to say on last week's episode, I
misspoke that Laura Michelle Owens was federally indicted. I meant
she was indicted by the state, more specifically Maricopa County,
where all the weird things happen in the world. Wait,
who who are you talking the fake pregnancy story we
talked about last week? So what did you say wrong?
I mistakenly said she was federally indicted. She was indicted,
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but by Maricopa County.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Oh okay, big mistake.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Good thing.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Well, somebody had to point it out, so I was like, sorry,
I misspeak sometimes I'm a human. I do think this
is interesting because for all the reasons I said before
him speaking positively about her in the past, her being
on this Netflix show, I feel like she's generally pretty
well liked in the public eye. So I wonder how
this is going to go down. I haven't seen her
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speak out about this at all.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Why would you?
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh, I feel like either if this shit didn't happen. Well, yeah,
like if somebody said that about me, I'd be like, okay,
you know, like you would fight back if that wasn't true.
It is just like I said, I think she grew
out of it.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And a side note, I saw Trey Cyrus a metro
station when I was fifteen years old, and I hysterically
cried when I took a picture with it.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Where's the loser? I am? Well, I saw like runner.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I know, I have so many good pictures that I
don't know where they're at from that weird time period
of like okay, you didn't carry around a film camera anymore,
but because you had like this shitty razor phone. You know,
there's like that period of time from let me think
of what you're like, two thousand and five to two
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thousand and fifteen. Maybe you would say like that ten
year period of just like well, fifteen's probably even early,
but you know, like when iPhones got so good and
then you had the cloud and your pictures are safe.
I have, like I had some weird digital camera. I
don't know where any the whole time I was at
Drexel too, I can't. I can't find any of the
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pictures I took with my friends for like those two years.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah, because that was when we had talked about the
Doubleware's produc drummer that died recently. I know for a
fact I had a picture with him, but I took
it probably on one of my earliest nicons that you
bought me. And I'm like, I have no idea where
those yeah, because remember.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You had to put it like on the card, and
you had to put it on your computer, and then
you get a new computer and then it's like it's
not anywhere. Yeah, it just sucks. Okay. So finally, like Maria,
I know you've been dying to talk about this all week,
the tight Titanic submersible. Now there's like this drama associated
with it.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
So I could not wait for this documentary, as if
talked about a lot on here, and then I watched
it as soon as I could Wednesday night, the day
it came out. And then of course afterwards, I just
had a million nightmares about the cruise. I thought they
were different enough that it wouldn't bother me. I hate
to say it, but I think the documentary left a
lot to be desired. I didn't think it was that crazy.
(13:19):
I didn't think it had any information. But this article
we were talking about is about this book that came
out recently basically suggesting that Stockton Rush was on a
suicide mission by going down there and knew what he
was doing. And this person's accusing him of.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Being a murderer.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
But this person's like his one of his best friends, right. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
So this book is called Submersed, Wonder, Obsession and Murder
in the World of Amateur Submarines, written by Carl Stanley.
So he's an expert in commercial submersibles and he was
a good friend of Stockton Rush. So they actually covered
in the Netflix documentary that this guy had gone on
one of the test dives in the Bahamas and he
had written this email to Stockton Rush afterwards telling him
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he had like serious concerns with the vessel, and of course,
because you're dealing with an absolute asshole, narcissist, he was like,
nothing's wrong with it. You don't know what you're talking about.
So that's kind of what the documentary revealed. The whole
time is that any time an employee spoke out about
the safety issues or things that could go wrong, they
just got fired. So you want to think that somebody
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could be held criminally liable for this, but Stockton Rush
seems to be the only person that could have been
held responsible for because everybody else truly had their ass covered.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So his friend honestly believes that he wanted to kill
himself and he wanted to go down in history with
this like big dramatic event that was also connected to
the Titanic. So every time you talk about the Titanic,
you'll be like, oh, remember that guy, he died in
this submersible. Like it's kind of a good theory, honestly,
(14:56):
Like it sounds believable for how this guy was.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
Yeah, the quotes from this article from Carl Stanley, where
Russia's ego was so big he was willing to die
and kill to be a pivotal to the character in
the story. Then he also said he wanted to die
at the wreck of the Titanic. The more high profile
the better. He didn't just murder four wealthy people and
get paid a cool meal to do it. They're all
part of the Titanic mythology now, so that really is
(15:20):
interesting because his wife had family ties to the Titanic
and he was so interested in this. He was on
this mission to make this work. And the sad part
is I think he could if he did it the
right way. But I think this hot term everybody's using
right now is a disruptor, right. I think he wanted
to be this disruptor in this submersible industry by making
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this new vessel out of this unexplored material. But this
is ultimately what bit him in the ass well.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Or he did in a purpose, or he did I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, I mean, like, it's kind of weird to think
that you have a best friend and then they write
a book about you when you die and say like things.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Through a dick.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yeah, exactly, Like it's kind of interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Like other things from the documentary I took that were
interesting was that Boeing was helping out with making of
it first, and then.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
You see you you really like slacked this week when
we were talking about in the last episode the Indian Airplane,
because that was a Boeing. I didn't hear you say
anything about it.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Well, I'm trying not to get sued.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It's so dark, but like, that's just fact.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
It was like when you were bowing Truther and I
have been for a decade. So you heard it here first.
Maybe that's a merch we can make. That's definitely grounds
for all suit.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
But yeah, and also like, so now that you're a
Boeing truther, or don't you think that there's anything a
little suss about the guy that came out of the
Ball of Flames wearing a white T shirt on his phone.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Wow, I'm just putting it out there.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I think I think, statistically, or maybe not statistically, I
think Pry Boeing's been having a problematic last couple of
years and this incident with the Dreamliner is really not
helping out.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
That happen in India.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
And then you know, I'm watching this documentary about a
submersible and oh look, it turns out they were helping
them at first. They I don't believe they helped construct
the Titan, but they were working with ocean Gate at some.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Point in time.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Another thing that was interesting was apparently they had these
microphones planted all over the vessel so that they could
hear the cracks, and by the end of it, that
guy was just like, I don't even want to hear
the cracks, like my thing's perfect. So well, and then
by the end of it, they interviewed this YouTuber that
was supposed to go on the Titan and the weather
(17:41):
was bad so the trip got rescheduled and he couldn't
go on the rescheduled trip, and then a couple of
days later is when the implosion happened, so he theory
would have been on the fatal trip. Yeah, hearing stories
like that sometimes when you're like, well, that even happened
to us that time that our apartment blew up. I
don't even know if we ever told that story, but
our apartment blew up one day that we had just
(18:03):
moved out of and it happened on like a Saturday
at three o'clock. And if we had not moved out
and moved into Gabe's house, then like we would have
been there during the day because typically, like when I
was working at the hospital from you know, like nine
to five whatever, it would be like the weekends, especially
on Saturdays, once we got all our errands done and stuff,
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like we would just chill and like maybe watch a
movie or just like hang out and we would have
been there when it blew up and that. You know,
like when you hear about those stories, you're just like
you really believe in fate sometimes when you hear stuff
like that. Speaking of nine to five, I was talking
to my friend Amanda about Loubert's dancer sit all over
the weekend and she said they had done Dolly Partons
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nine to five when she was in dance and they
had suitcases that when they turned them around, it said
nine to.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Five on them. That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I like it.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I was like, I need video and picture of this immediately.
It sounds cool. But yeah, I mean, this is the
classic case of a guy that really, you know, I
kind of feel like Mark Zuckerberg's like this too, Like
my product is perfect.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Nobody could tell me what to do. I know what
I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
You don't know anything, and then look what happens, like
all these people are dead.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You look like an idiot at the end of the day.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
He did if if what his friend is saying is
true that he wanted to be part of the Titanic lore,
then I guess that's true.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
It kind of like, really, it kind of makes sense.
I don't think it's far fetched at all.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
No, I just think it's like crazy. I agree with you,
it's crazy that your friend would say something like that.
But if it's true, it's true. This episode is brought
to you by the Grosser Room.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
So, speaking of the Titanic submersible, we did a high
profile death to section on that was that like two
years ago already.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Yeah, we did it right when it happened in June
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, So it was cool though, and I this was
before they even really talked about how the people died.
But I think that we pretty much nowed it from
the beginning. So if you guys want to read that,
it's two parts, right or maybe not. I think it's one,
really a really big one.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Though, because remember I went to Tennessee the day after
we wrote it, and then the Titanic Museum in Pigeonforge
was like pop and everybody had to take a new
interest in it.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
So so with that documentary just coming out, we decided
to write one about the original in a ridge case
of a similar type of death, which was the Buifer
dolphin situation with the divers back in the early eighties.
I think it was nineteen eighty three. Yeah, So we
just were doing a two part dis section on that
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this week. So this week Maria started with just some
of the facts about the case, and we really go
through all of it, like exactly what happened, and then
we try to break down, for example, like why they
were even because it's confusing to a lay person to
read some of that stuff. So we really spent all
day kind of going through that and figuring that out
for the part one, and then part two is going
(21:10):
to be all of the autopsies and like what did
their bodies look like, how did they die? What did
the medical examiner see when they performed the autopsies on
these people? So so that'll be coming out next week.
So check that out.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yeah, head over to the gross room dot com to
sign up.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
All right, let's talk about ozemp Dick was sometimes we
alternate who starts the story after the ad and I
was about to say that same exact sent. Okay, So
people are using ozempic and we're starting to see some
of the other side effects it's having besides you know,
weight loss and treatment for diabetes. But one of the
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new side effects is that it's apparently making men's penises larger.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
The most disturbing part of this story is that all
of these guys are saying, oh, it's grown one point
five inches, it's grown since last time I measured it, this, that,
and the other. And you're just like, this is like
specific to men, right, because like the women would never
pull out a tape measure or a roller and like
measure the size of their body part like that, would they? No,
(22:13):
of course, because it's so it's so weird. It's like weird,
and it's even more weird that guys are doing it
multiple times throughout their life to see if it's changing
in size. And I'm telling you, the ozempic has nothing
to do with your dick size. It's because of your
your pubic mound. Do you know your mom's pubis It
stands for a pubic mound. It's so gross. It just
(22:34):
reminds me of like a picture's mound or something that's
over top of your pubic bone. But that's it. That's fat,
it's and it's there to protect your pelvis, right. It's
like a big ball of fat there. So when you
get fat, it gets bigger and then your penis starts sinking.
Into it. There's a thing called hidden penis, Like it
could get all the way hidden inside of there if
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with obesity, especially like really high BMIs and stuff like
dudes can't even see their penis.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Well, what do you say to the one that argued
that point to say, he measured himself when he was
skinnier and he has definitely gained an inch.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
He's he's wrong. It's just not it's just not like
and like if you think about it, like if it
depends on like what kind of ruler you use, how
much you push it in, Like if you really go
not to get graphic, but if you go on like
a guy's mond's pubis and really push it down, you
could give them like another five inches, Like right, it's
(23:31):
just not five not five inches, but half an inch,
like do you know what I mean? Like you can
make it bigger or smaller depending on how you're looking
at it. Well, how it goes kind of deep down
into there.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
You know, how much money do you think ozempic's going
to be getting in research now now that it is
potentially helping them have bigger dicks?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Oh god, the people are going not spuying this shit anyway, right,
Like yeah, I mean for it'll be for the side
effects of it. Now, like men just want to go
on it because I don't think that there's any clinical
or scientific evidence that says that it's making their their
penis is bigger. One thing to take into consideration is,
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especially with the obesity, with the drug working, it's improving
blood flow and that could have something to do with
it too, that they're just getting stronger erections, which would
make the penis seem bigger than it is, but it's not.
There's no evidence to suggest that anything in it is
actually growing their penis.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
So ridiculous, it really is, Okay, So at TikToker is
claiming that after buying a bag of mixed nuts from Costco,
she found live worms crawling out of the nuts. So
last week it was the oat milk, this week it's
the Costco nuts. And there are like the video is disturbing.
You see live worms in it, Like it is gross,
(24:53):
it is, but I want to just say, like she's saying,
nowhere on it does it's take could possibly contain bugs?
That's insane, like why would it? And it's also something
that grows from the earth, so like there is the
potential no, there is.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
And like I sent you a picture last week that
I had, So I had a head of broccoli that
but it came from like Amazon Fresh or whatever, and
it was in a plastic bag when I got it.
So all I did was I like rinsed it under
the sink real quick, and I caught it up and
I boiled it and made it for dinner. So Lucia
(25:26):
is like getting ready to bite into this florette and
she's like, what is this? And I look at it close,
and it was like a little tiny white worm. It's
probably like a caterpillar thing. It wasn't like a maggot.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
That's what I thought it was when you sent me
the picture.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I don't think so. I think it was like a
little caterpillar thing. So and and and like clearly wherever
it got picked, it got stuck in a bag and
it was just there, right, But like and obviously none
of us wanted to eat it, because I'm like I did,
like you know, when there there's never one bug, there's
never one bug, right, So my whole thing is like,
(26:02):
oh my god, Like I didn't see them enough the
rints off, didn't get them off, and like there's more
in this food, and I don't want to eat this
food because I had mixed after I boiled it up,
I like mixed it in the sauce of the thing
I was making, and like nobody wanted to eat after
that because we're like there's worms every including me, but
that like I don't get upset about that because I'm
(26:23):
just like, this thing grows outside and there's bugs, Like
there's bugs all over my plants outside all the time.
There's unless you like spray the shit out of them
with pesticides, they're not going to go away. And you
don't really want that stuff on your food anyway. And
like the thing is is like if one of them
has eggs when it gets into the bag, then all
of a sudden you have a colony, right, And that's
(26:45):
probably what happened in this case, But it's just so
gross to see it.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah, it's gross. I just think like things like this
can happen with food.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I don't know it.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
It's disgusting and it bothers me, but it's not that far.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Fetched that it could.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
She was posting like it not being expired. I don't
think the expiration has anything to do with it. It
probably was fresh. But like you have, you have an
ecosystem in there where like animals could thrive because they
have something to eat off of, so they could just
keep on reproducing and living there. I mean it, It
is nasty for sure, but we eat bugs all the time.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah, and we just don't know. Do you know?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
One of my when I was in when I took
biology when I was in college, one of my teachers
he said that one of his friends had a job
where he would look at ketchup under the microscope all
day and count how many bug parts per million were
under the microscope. He was he was a scientist and
that's what he did for a living. That's discussing because
like you get you because there was a certain level
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that was considered to be okay for human consumption. And
it's the same thing with like a fig Newton or
anything like that. If you look at that under the microscope,
there's lots of pieces of bugs under it. It's just
like it's impossible to pick that amount of tomatoes and
not get bugs mixed in with it.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
I don't even think I added this story for this week,
But this hiker was missing for a couple of days,
and you survive the days he was missing on eating bugs.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Well, so see what you gotta do. Sometimes you have
to eat a person. Sometimes you have to eat a bug.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
I mean some cultures eat bugs. Like it's not that
far fetched. It's not ideal if you don't like it.
But it's like, it's not like they spilled the chemical
on the nuts and they were selling them.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
It's part of nature.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I saw this video of this some delicacy. I don't
know where it was exactly. It was somewhere like not
in America, I'll say that right. There was this like
log that was floating in the ocean, and the people
cut the log in half and inside are like these
worm things. And I don't know if they're a sea
(28:52):
creature or if they're a worm or what they are,
but they're like these white, gelatinous looking worms. And people
were taking them out of the holes and like eating
them alive.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
That's reminding me of the animation of the Lion King
when they're like eating the bugs.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I don't know. Yeah, popped in my mind.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, exactly, that's what that's what it was like. And
it was like some delicacy or something. And I'm like, eh, no,
thanks to quote mom, mom, if that's what you like.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
All right, guys, we have the Atlanta Meet and Greek
coming up on July eleventh, and then we have a
Crime and Wine at the Georgia's Writer Museum on July twelfth,
both hosted by the wonderful Zone seven host Cheryl mac McCullum.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, so you'll get to meet her too, which I
would go just to meet her, not me, but Maria's
gonna be there, and I'm gonna have books for sale,
so it could sign books. It'll be awesome and a
good lucture too.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah, we're gonna have a really good time. So tickets
for that can be found at the description of this
episode or in the gross room or on our social media.
Please head over to Apple and Spotify and leave us
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so do a lot of them. All right, Well, we
will see you guys tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
See you.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death. As a reminder,
my training is as a pathologist's Assistant. I have a
master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.
I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed
or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of
a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social
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on my experience working in pathology, so they can make
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