December 25, 2025 • 40 mins
Merry Christmas! Check out this throwback episode discussing a man's "Christmas tree deformity," a man who got stuck in a chimney running from police, the potential discovery of Santa's Sarcophagus, toy injuries, the Covina massacre, and a woman who made cookies from recipes found on gravestones.
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Hi, everyone, welcome. The mother knows that this is our
special Christmas edition. So let's get into the first story. Well,
since this is an X rated show, it only to
quote pop up, it only makes sense to start with
a penis story, so which really isn't even a Christmas story,
but the deformity has to do with Christmas, so we're
(00:46):
just gonna go with it. Yeah, exactly, all right. So
this forty three year old guy went to the doctor
and he said that he noticed a decrease in his
penis length but an increase in his girth. So this
can be caused by a condition called perih disease. Have
you ever heard of it? No, So it's just scarring
inside of the penis, which could happen if you have
(01:06):
a lot of rough sex. It could happen in other
ways too, but that's one of the common ways that
it happens. And what happens is it could kink off
the blood supply, and in this case, it caused venus insufficiency.
So that means that the blood from the penis during
erection that was going back to the heart was kind
of backing up into the penis and it was causing
(01:28):
his penis to, like Maria said, it looked like it
was shorter in length and wider. And it's called a
Christmas tree deformity because the penis actually looks like the
shape of a Christmas tree the pictures of it. When
you see the pictures of it, you'll say, oh, Okay,
this is this is why it's called it's called that. Yeah,
this post is called Christmas in June in the gross room.
(01:50):
I mean, you definitely, I think just I wrote the
article in June, That's why I've called it that. I
think just you know, talking about it, you can't really
have like a full visual of his factly what this
looks like. But I do think it's a really accurate
description based on the pictures you included. So so yeah,
So I also show photos of the surgical repair of it,
which is it's pretty intense thinking, like especially if a
(02:14):
guy looks at the surgery, they're going to be like,
oh my god, that looks insane. They basically cut a
circumferential incision around his previous circumcision from when he was
a kid. That they cut a circle around his penis
and they slid the skin down. They basically like to
glove the penis slid it down, and then they were
(02:36):
able to squeeze the skin over and just kind of
sinch it and make it look more normal, and he
was able to have better sex and just enjoy his
life more thing. He was happy with the cosmetic results
a few months later. Well, it's good, I guess that
you could at least get surgery and fix this, so
you just don't have to, I mean, cosmetically, you want
to be okay with the way you look. But I'm
(02:58):
sure it was painful too. Yeah, it was painful, and
also for his partner, it was probably really painful because
it did get super thick, you know what I mean,
Like that could cause pain for some people. So so yeah,
all right, this next one couldn't be more amazingly timed
news wise. This is a recent story, believe it or not.
(03:18):
So last week in Massachusetts, police had gone to this
house to execute a search for it. I'm gonna say,
based later on the charges that it was drug related.
So when they get to this two house, there's these
two males there. They're freaking out. They decide they need
to escape through the roof, so they get up on
the roof. One of the men was able to jump
off and land on a parked car. But the other
(03:39):
guy was seemingly really inspired by you know, the time
of year, and thought it would be great to jump
down the chimney and try to get out the other
way there, just like Santa. Yeah, and then what happened
though is terrifying for me. It's terrifying when I just
look at the pictures. It's this guy inside of a chimney.
It looks like it's at least twenty feet down. There's
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absolutely no way he could get out by himself, and
it's it's just bricks encasing his shoulders and everything like that.
He could barely probably turn around that if he even can,
and you could just see like the cops looking down
at him in this chimney. So he obviously gets like stuck, right,
and then the cops he's running away from have to
end up rescuing him out of this chimney. What are
(04:24):
you doing? Listen, You're not gonna believe this. I don't
know if I ever told you this story, but I
have a similar story that happened in our childhood to this.
Oh my god, So I don't know if I ever
told you this. So when my dad was building the
addition on our house. I was a young teenager and
(04:45):
my brother was was maybe five or something years old.
He was pretty little, and we were helped. We helped
my dad build the addition. So I remember being on
a ladder and just holding up the drywall when my
dad would nail it in and things like that. Well,
my brother also helped, but he was he was way
younger than me, and he was walking in this one
(05:08):
part of the house and he fell through the ceiling,
which was only you know, some we had a case
of this a few months ago that some person fell
through the ceiling of a house, like through the attic,
you know, because if you have the rafters that are
just the wood, and you just put a piece of
drywall to cover it to make the ceiling, there's nothing
(05:30):
to protect you. You'll fall right through it. Like in
let me give you a better example, like in Christmas
Vacation when he goes up in the attic and puts
the presence up there and then he falls through and
he ends up standing on the kid's bunk bed. Yeah,
I know exactly. Okay, you're talking about it. So, so
Louis was holding a hammer and he fell through drywall
like that into a space where my dad, like in case,
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the chimney, the top of the chimney where he was
building the addition, and he felt like an entire story
in between the chimney and the wall in a space
like that, skinny. And of course I don't know why
Mom's perspective of what this happened, but my dad was
probably like, oh shit, I'm gonna get in a lot
of trouble from my wife because of this. So he
(06:15):
grabbed me. I can't even believe I'm saying this out loud,
because this is so outrageous. He grabbed me and like
lowered me down to grab Louis and then pulled us
both both back up, like we never had to call
nine on one, No one had to come rescue us.
But like, not only did the five year old have
a hammer and fell a story down that spot, but
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then on top of that, he lowered me as a
young kid too down to get him. Wait, so did
he lower you down by your feet? So yeah, you're
like head down, Yes, so there was the potential you
could have fallen too and gotten seriously on your head. Yes,
It's so outrageous. It's like unbelievable. And I remember, I mean,
I guess somebody told them because she knows about it,
(07:00):
but I don't know if she was home, if she
wasn't home when it happened. Like whatever happened, it just
shit was just different into eighties all just to be
that right now. I have heard this story of Louis falling,
but I don't think I realized that you were the
one to scoop them out. I would it did it?
Like it just was the way it was presented to
me was it wasn't that bad and they were just
(07:20):
able to get out. It was no he he no,
because like pop Pop couldn't reach them, you know what
I means, such a typical eighties dad moved. Yeah. Yeah,
And there's like thousands of stories of us being in
just similar kind of danger at all times, you know,
just so nobody got hurt at the end of the day.
(07:40):
It was all fo no. I mean, maybe the only
reason mo Mom found out was because we told her,
Like I don't. I don't know if he actually did
or whatever. We'll have to ask them the story. But
it's really classic lou qualteriri if you ask me. But
but yeah, so this is this this, just this photo
reminded me of Louis like standing like being inside of
(08:01):
the Yet you guys have to look at the article
of my little brother just standing like inside of the
chimney like that, Like it just was funny. Wellis Louis
was five and like skinny and able to get out
really easy. Not a full grown man, No, no, he
would and he was Louis was like probably at that age,
he was probably like forty pounds or something. He was
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like a skinny, like, you know, a skinny little thing.
So but yeah, with this guy, it's just I guess
it's just funny because if you're running from the cops,
you're just gonna try to go anywhere to not get caught.
But like you have to think that that would be
just like a terrible idea. And they did bring him
to the hospital because you know, he fell twenty feet
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in encased in bricks, so he could have hurt himself,
but I don't think he ended up getting that hurt.
And now he got arrested, right well, I don't want
to say for sure that drugs were involved, but that
is what he got charged with, possession of Class A drugs,
possession of Class B drugs. They said he also so
at a slew of charges from outstanding Warrens. So was
(09:03):
he on all of the drugs? I'm gonna say possibly.
And then the other guy did end up getting caught later,
but I'm sure they were like, cool, we just wanted to,
you know, search this house for drugs, and now we
have to rescue this complete idiot out of the chimneys.
So I wonder just how that all went down. I'm
sure the cops were just like just another day at work,
(09:25):
all right. Before we get into this next story, can
we talk about the history of Santa Claus for a minute.
I always thought that he originated from like Germany or something,
and I think I feel that way because I watched
that animation last night Santa Claus is coming to town,
and they make it very German. Yeah. I never I
never really thought about it. I feel like at some
(09:47):
point I learned about it in school, but I don't
really I don't really remember. So enlighten us. Okay, So
apparently Saint Nicholas was a bishop in Turkey over sixteen
hundred years ago. I never would have guessed the origin
was from Turkey, just based on all these classic tales
and everything. So he was said to have inherited money
(10:07):
from his family, which he took and turned into this
ultra generous figure. So basically, he died in the year
three hundred and forty three CE, or AD as we
knew it for a while. Originally his bones were thought
to be buried in Venice, but in the fifties, I
guess they found these bones and they were able to
determine that all of the bones together were from the
(10:28):
same person, but they couldn't confirm at the time if
they actually did belong to Saint Nicholas. So anyway, archaeologists
have now discovered this sarcophagus that they think actually belongs
to Saint Nicholas, and it makes sense because it's at
the Saint Nicholas Church in Turkey. Yeah, and I guess
he was moved there two hundred years after he died, right,
(10:50):
So that's that's why they think that it's definitely that
goes along with the story that's been being told that
he was moved from his original place to death to
this church. So yeah, so I think it's so cool
if it turns out to be I don't know, because like,
even if they were able to do any kind of
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DNA on it, which I doubt it's just so old,
you know. I don't know how they would be able
to determine that it was really him, just because it
was such a long time ago. You know. Well, I
guess they'll have anthropologists looking at the age of the
bones and stuff, right, and if they could date it
back to that time, they might be able to make
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an assumption. But yeah, I don't know how they'd know.
But I at first was like, isn't it obvious that
his remains would be at the church built in his honor?
But I guess it seems like this sarcophagus was like
hidden within the walls. Did you get that impression? Yeah,
it looks like it was hidden, but it looked you know.
It's the same thing when when they excavate people in Egypt, right,
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it's like you can tell if they were of some
importance by the way that they were And it's just
like this isn't just like some random that's buried there,
you know what I mean, Like this person had significance
in the presentation of the way that they were buried.
This reminded me of that scene from National Treasure when
they go under the church in Philly and they break
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through the grave site and then they find all the
treasure hidden at the end of it. It was just
like the pictures of this just reminded me of that
for some reason. But that movie is like, I love
that movie, but it's also so terrible. Do you know
other Maria was an extra Yeah, I know. It makes
me so happy actually, but it's just it's one of
(12:36):
those movies that it's like The Mummy, right, they're just
like really cringey and kind of terrible, but also the
best movie ever, you know, Yeah, I agree with that.
Just it has really corny one liners, but it is
cool in concept. And I don't know anything Nicholas Cage
is in. It's just kind of cringe anymore. But he's
but he's in Moonstruck, which is the best movie ever.
(12:58):
Well that's in our opinion, the best movie he was
ever in, right, But I don't know, I think this
is super cool. I'm surprised it took them this long
to look there. Were they hired to do this because
they thought it or I don't really know. I don't know.
I just think it's super cool that it happened right
before Christmas. So yeah, they said it excites them greatly.
(13:19):
I guess they're gonna get the rest. They were showing
pictures of them still taking it out of the wall.
I guess they're gonna get the rest of it out
and try to conduct studies and try to see if
they could figure out if it's the real Saint Nicholas
or not. But it's certainly an interesting discover. Wait did
they So they found the sarcophagus but they didn't open
it yet. Well, I don't think they fully got it out.
(13:41):
Oh okay, maybe by the time we're recording this they did.
But the news article only had pictures of it partially, okay,
So I don't know. I'm also, you know, part of
me thinks it's cool to find these artifacts and research
them and everything too. But I'm like the purpose of
him being buried there was so he could lay peacefully
in this building that was dedicated to him, So why
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are we disturbing his grave? They're respectful of that. Sometimes
they have all these different imaging tools and things that
they can bring there, and they've recently found a lot
of mommies, you know, and they won't cut them up
in stuff like they used to. But just because they're
able to do imaging that's so much more specific than
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it used to be, you know, and people are starting
to say, like, hey, we should respect the remains instead
of being like we say, you know, but back in
the day, it was like we found the trophy, like
you know, if they weren't robbed and you found it intact,
it was like insane. You know, I actually feel like
this could be an awesome movie. So let's say you
write this script and it's like these archaeologists are digging
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up and they think they found Santa, and they take
him out and everything, and then his magic rein states
and comes to life. So then all these adults that
stop believing in Santa have to believe like in the
Santa Claus movie with Tim out. All right, let's talk
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about some toy injuries now, all right, So we talked
about a couple over the past couple of weeks. We
talked about the atomic lab that was marketed in the
nineteen fifties that was for sale, that ended up selling
at auction for sixteen thousand, five hundred dollars. It's so
crazy that somebody would spend that much money on that. Well, yeah,
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because it's the only time that you could buy radioactive material.
It's not that easy to come by. So that kit
actually in the nineteen fifties sold for forty nine dollars
and fifty cents, which is a shit ton of money
for back then. Yeah, if you think about that, that
it's equivalent to six hundred and fifty dollars of today's money.
So that's a lot for a toy, and that is
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part well, they say that's part of the reason why
it the sales weren't good, but I think the real
reason is because you were exposing people to uranium and radiation,
and that's just we knew that wasn't good at the time.
But we also talked about Remember we talked about daycare
workers getting charged because kids ingested water beads. Yeah, we
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talked about water beads a lot, definitely in the grocery room.
But I think we've had a couple of stories on here, right, Yeah,
so we do have a post in the grocery room,
a couple posts in the grocer room. But if you
go to this specific one that's on the toy injuries,
you could see the photos as well of how big
these little tiny plastic beads kind of engorge within a
child's bow and cause an obstruction and leads to surgery.
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Could lead to perforation and even death in some cases,
which is terrible. Some of the other toys that we
talk about in this article are the slip and slide.
That was one of my favorites when I was a kid. Yeah,
we had one when I was little, and I liked it,
but I feel like it hurt. It does hurt. And
the thing is, when you think about slip and slides,
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you think that For me, when I first started learning
about why they're so bad, I thought it would be
due to lacerations because the one that I had was
with when I was a kid, had these like metal
hooks that you kind of that's how you anchored it
into the grass, and I remember going on it and
always hitting one of those or just like hitting a
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rock underneath or something and cutting your leg. So that's
what I was like, Oh, that's why, because you could
get hurt with that. But really the biggest problem with
a slip inside is that adults, especially because like the
heavier and the bigger a person is, they could accelerate
so fast, right, but then they Also, I don't know
if you remember going on the slip and slide, like
if it's not totally wet, you can kind of come
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to a complete stop, like very abruptly, and it could
cause serious neck injuries and it caused paralysis in some people.
Like it's crazy. It could even kill you. In theory,
you could break your neck. So that's something I didn't
even really say think about as a kid that you
would have. It would almost be like a severe form
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of whiplash in a way that you're going so fast
and stop and your head jolts back like that. Other
ones that were in there. Of the jarts is a jart.
It's it's like a it's a dark, horrible name. It's
a dart, you know, like a dart. You would throw
it a dartboard, but it's huge to throw outside and
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instead of it, I mean, you could get hurt with
a dart too, But the jart had this thick metal,
heavy like stiff hanging out of the bottom of it
that you when you threw it, I guess it could
go and like go into the dirt. I don't know
what you were supposed to throw it at. I think
it was a game of some sort kind of like
horseshoes or something like. Okay that you were throw these things.
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And in nineteen eighty seven, these kids were playing outside
and this boy, a little kid, threw it and it
went over the fence and hit his sister in the
head and it killed her. So it's but when you
look at a picture of the thing, you're like, yeah,
of course that was going to hurt somebody, especially because
you're telling kids to throw them. So but people still
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have them in their garage and stuff, which is kind
of cool. But why are those going to be sold
for sixteen thousand dollars next that auction? Well, speaking of
another dangerous science kid, there was a in the two thousands,
so recently, when we have all this information about dangerous substances,
they were selling this CSI fingerprinting kit and that had
as festus in it. Yeah, which I don't understand why,
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But think about like when you're doing fingerprints, it's like
you're using loose powder or blush right with a brush
and you're kind of brushing over where you're looking for fingerprints,
So all you're doing is just creating dust that little
kids are breathing in. Like asbestos can damage your lungs
and it could eventually lead to a certain kind of cancer.
Like I think if if let's say, for example, you
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had it when you were a little kid, and you
played with it once, you'll be fine. It's more like
chronic exposure. That's why people that work with asbestos are
more likely to get damage to their lungs and musicthelial
mode because of asbestos disposure. But one time isn't going
to kill you. But also why why expose a kid
to it? You know what I mean. Yeah, I was
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most surprised when we were writing this stuff that they
said some of the most common injuries are from non
scooter motorized scooters and skateboard Oh yeah, yeah, they they're
the most common gift. Yeah, they're the most common injuries
that are seen in emergency rooms and stuff from falling
off of those things. For shortened bikes, well, I think
when you get one as a little kid, you're just
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stoked and you have, you know, no coordination at all,
so you just go crazy in the things on wheels
Like I could now as an adult ride a non
motorized won't find But if even if I get on
the motorized ones that they have in certain cities and stuff.
I'm like, forget it. I can't. They're so bad because
they go so fast. They can go really really fast
with and who like you. I remember seeing them when
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I went to Miami, and it's like, all right, you're
in downtown Miami. I don't carry a bike helmet with
me everywhere, but I want to take this thing to
get from here to hear like most people aren't wearing helmets.
With those things, and they go fast, you just will
get seriously injured. If you're going fifteen or twenty miles
an hour and you fall and hit your head, you're
gonna get seriously injured, you know, Yeah, And you know
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I've I've written them a couple of times. When I
was in Knoxville last summer, I thought that was the
best landscape for it, because you know, University at Tennessee
wasn't in session, so there was barely any people there.
Their roads are actually really nice and smooth and there's
not a lot of potholes and stuff, so that was
a pleasurable experience. But the time I rode them before
was in Santa Monica, which the roads are not good
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and there's lots of cracks, and there's heavy traffic, and
it was very overwhelming, especially as somebody not experienced in
riding anything like that. So that was very scary and
I could very easily. I mean I did fall off
of it at one point, but I could see getting
in a serious injury. You know. Things on those lists too,
is the Healey sneakers. Those were my shit when I
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was in sixth grade. Sianna broke her arm on the
My niece broke her arm on it. She was going
up the steps and she fell backwards and she hit
she broke thehead of her. Humorous with those skates, yeah,
I mean those popped up in middle school and went
away so fast. My teachers were not having it. They
were so pissed about all the kids. I feel around back.
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They are back. I've been seeing them everywhere, so that's
speaking off because they've determined that they were bad and
got rid of them, I thought, and then they get
them back. I don't think they were banned. I think
they just went they weren't cool anymore. So people stepped
by out because I was gonna say, like, another toy
that's on our list is the the magnets, Those little
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tiny magnets so they were a big thing for a while,
and then you couldn't buy them anymore. And then I
was just looking on Amazon for something to buy for
my nephew yesterday and they're for sale again on there,
these magnets. So I mean, obviously, if I get them
for a kid that's seven years old, they're fine. But
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if there's ever a baby around, that's where the danger occurs.
If a kid puts it in their mouth, you know,
which is scary because those magnets, like, let's say you
swallow a couple of them, and they're so so strong,
they stick pieces of the bowl together and they do
the same exact thing. They cause an obstruction, and you know,
pretend you put magnets in something like I don't even
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want to use a hose as an example, because a
hose has such a thick wall, not like the bow does,
but it sticks the pieces of it together and then
the food can't move through it, and again it's the
same thing. It causes an obstruction and could cause a
perforation and stuff. So they're really dangerous, and for some
reason they were banned other back, so I don't know
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what's up with that. We just like forget about things. Yeah,
and then I guess in the most of modern times
twenty twenty four, we have the oculus. So the one
case you add in the grocerym this kid cut this
insane hive around his eye. And then I guess in
other cases people are wearing them and just bumping into
their surroundings and falling and just totally not vaying attention. Yeah,
So just to read that post to just get it's
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a lot more of the toys or like things back
in the day which you just can't like, you know,
you can't imagine a father like lowering their daughter down
to can get their son out of a hole in
the wall. So it's the same thing here. It's just
kind of nuts. Listen. Pop up relistically was gonna be like,
I will do anything possible not to have nine to
one one. He is so anti Liz going to the
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hospital calling anyone for help, let alone having emergency workers there.
Forget it. He would be so embarrassed if somebody had
to come to the house. Well, one time he was
installing cabinets in the house and holding the cabinets by
himself over his head and he dropped it and it
hit the corner like hit his head. And he came
in my room with his hands on his head and
he was gushing blood and I could see his frontal
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bone because it was giant skin flap of huge laceration,
right partial like evulsion injury, and he's just and mo,
Mom wasn't home, and I, you know, I'm like a
teenager and freaking out, like, oh I'm gonna clone, I
will wane, Oh my god, and he's just like don't
like turns are like, don't you jerr with like a
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monster voice, you know, because like his biggest fear ever
is an ambulance coming to our house and and him
getting embarrassed. You know, so God forbid an ambulance comes
to help you when you your whole farhead's bleeding everywhere. Yeah,
And so we brought him to that. He ended up
getting a lot of stitches over twenty I think on
his forehead, and it was an upside down horseshoe, which
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was hilarious. But yeah, he I mean it was fine.
Heads bleed a lot, so it just looks worse than
it is, you know. It definitely wasn't nine one one worthy,
But like I saw all that blood and just like
all right, this next case. Is this like high profile
true crime? We never heard of it until this week. Yeah,
(26:03):
we wrote us up this week for a high profile.
That's the section two parts. Usually we split them in
two parts if they're really we don't want people to
get bored reading so many words. Sometimes that we split
them up if they're a lot of information. So basically
what happened was this guy and his wife were getting
a divorce. It seemed like there was maybe some financial
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issues the guy was having. He also had a son
that he kept a secret that he had abandoned because
the kid had some brain injury, and then when the
wife found out about it, she obviously was not cool
with it. The kid apparently got her in a swimming
pool when the kid was little and either drowned, partially drowned, whatever,
and had permanent brain damage. And then the guy was like, yeah, peace,
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I don't want anything to do with this kid anymore.
So didn't want anything to do with the kid anymore,
but still claimed him as a dependent on his taxes
for seven years because that's something normal to do. So
only like a year and a half into their marriage,
wife finds all of this out, and you know, how
do you get past something like that. I don't know,
because that's that's outrageous. Could you imagine like something so
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I would be like, so wait a second. So you
have a kid and I didn't know about this kid,
and not only that, you went through this traumatic thing
that your child got injured to the point where their
brain damage and stuff, and now you like skipped out.
I would I would? I don't know. I feel like
that's grounds for divorce. Yeah, and she had a couple
of children, so obviously you want to know that the
person you're marrying is going to be good to your children.
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And how does that happen if they have a pass
like this? Yeah, But anyway, they go to get divorced
and she wants spouse with support. And then he got
fired from his job for fraudulently billing for hours he
wasn't working to his clients. And then apparently they had
saved like eighty eight thousand dollars in their brief marriage
together as like a nest egg, and then he dwindled
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it down to seventeen grand. So not only is the
whole something happening, but then there's this financial component too.
So right before Christmas, I think it was actually this
is coming out December nineteenth, So December eighteenth, two thousand
and eight, their divorce gets finalized. And then on Christmas
Eve that year, only a couple days later, he shows
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up to her family's Christmas party at their house, dresses
Santa Claus, and when this eight year old opens the door,
he shoots her in the face. Yeah, it's so outrageous.
And he came also with a package with a bell
on it, which ended up being this air compressor that
he tried to turn into a spray device to spray
(28:35):
racing fuel all over the house as well. Yeah, so
when the door's first opened by her eight year old knees,
he shoots her and then just starts like opening fire
into the house. He's like clipping all these adults. It
was late at night, what was it, around eleven thirty
at night, So a bunch of people were at the
front of the house because they were getting ready to
go home. So of course they fell victim just because
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they were in this part of the house. And then
luckily a bunch the kids were in the back of
the house or outside, so they were able to get
to safety and some capacity. But after he ran out
of ammunition. Then he starts spraying this fuel over the house.
He doesn't know this because this wasn't part of his plan.
There's an open flame somewhere in the house, so the
house just goes up immediately, the thing explodes, and then
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he ends up catching on fire too, and he's saying like, yeah,
like a Santa suit is the shittiest fabric ever. It's
like ray on velvet, it's so flammable. So the suit
catches on fire and actually starts melting into his skin.
So he gets serious like second and third degree burns
all over his hands and arms at the time too.
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So yeah, so the house is completely engulfed in flames.
He leaves the scene. Nine people die in the house
out of they said twenty five to thirty people were
in attendance at this party, so he kills a bunch
of the family members. Then he drives to his brother's house,
which is about forty miles away, and then ends up
shooting himself. Yeah so he yeah, so he kills himself.
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He was probably they weren't sure if he was planning
on doing that anyway, because he didn't leave a note.
But only in like twenty five percent of case is
of suicide someone actually leaves a note, So that's just
if someone doesn't leave a note, that doesn't mean that
they weren't planning it. But he had bought plane tickets
to escape to go to another state. So from that theory,
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they probably think that he was not initially planning on
killing himself. But then when they did the autopsy, they
saw how severe these burns we were on his arms,
and that would suggest that maybe he was in so
much pain didn't obviously he didn't go and get treatment
because he couldn't get treatment and not explain where he
got those kinds of burns from. So he was in
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I mean, think about how much pain you're in when
you get burned with the curling iron, Like really it's
just the worst feeling in the world, and just imagine
having it on your hands and arms and not getting treatment. Like,
maybe he just didn't want to be on the run
anymore and he decided he was going to get in
trouble and just off himself because of that. Yeah, So
what we're gonna cover coming up this Monday is that
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there was two rental cars he had. They were booby trapped,
and the investigation was just insane, So yeah, and it was.
It's an interesting from a forensic standpoint because they initially
only found eight bodies, and because the house was completely
burned up, so they knew that there was nine people
that weren't accounted for. They found eight bodies, and then
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a couple days later they found the ninth body, and
then they weren't able to identify all of them right away,
So they were only able to identify I think six
of them at first, and then the other three they
had to identify by either pulling their dental records or
their old medical records. So if you have a body
that can't be identified, and that means like they you
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can't see a tattoo, you can't see their facial features,
there's nothing on them that like screams that it's them,
they're not just going to assume that it's that it's
a person. So they'll go to your dentist and they'll say, hey,
can I have the missing persons dental records? And then
they'll take X rays of the dead body and then
they'll confirm. They could do it with dental records or
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they could do it with X rays, like if you
ever broke your arm, or something like that. So, and
my dentist actually said that somebody he's and he's been
practicing for a long time, and he's like, in the
entire time I've been practicing, I've only had the medical
examiner call me once to for dental records to identify
that body. Yeah, he was telling me about it. It
was pretty cool. I mean not cool for the person obviously,
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but he knew who it was. It was like one
of his patients and stuff, you know. So, so that
had ended up happening in this case that they had
to identify three of the bodies, one of them actually
being the ex wife because she was so charred. And
when they did the autopsies on all of the bodies,
they said that all of them had gunshot wounds and
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some of them and this is kind of cool too
from a forensic perspective, that some of them died as
a result of their gunshot women and some of them
died from the fire. And the way that you could
tell that is that you open the trachea and the
lungs and you could see if their soot in the lungs,
that means that they were alive in breathing at the time.
Where the fire was burning. So if he came in
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and like shot someone and they and they died right
then and there, before the fire even happened, they wouldn't
have any soot in their lungs. And the craziest part
of the story is the eight year old that was
shot in the face at the door survived. Yeah, and
now she's she's older and she talks about it, which
she's she's actually an advocate for gun violence now, which
is cool. She's in her twenties, right, Yeah, but she's
(33:39):
on Instagram and she goes to all these events and stuff,
and yeah, I mean, I can't I can't even imagine.
Not only did she get shot in the face as
a child, which is terrible, but her grandparents got killed,
her aunts and uncles. Like traumatic and like seeing everybody
run out knowing they burned to death. I mean, like
that's some that's some shit, man, for real. Yeah. Well,
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let's end on a lighter note, which is this article
you really called Recipes from the Grave. So this is
one TikTok trend I could really get behind. This girl
went to cemeteries and went around the people's gravestones, took
recipes that they had etched on the gravestones and then
baked them. Yeah. I love this. So in the photo
it's a there's a recipe for sugar cookie for the
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what are they called sprit sprits or whatever, the sprits cooks.
The sprits cookies that they're the ones that are specific
to go in the gun, right, Yeah. Yeah, So there's
a recipe for that how to make those cookies and
they are kind of the best. They're like one of
the best ones to have. Yeah. So I never even
thought of that that people put like their favorite recipe
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on their tombstone, which is so cool and honestly, like,
I hope she would make a cookbook out of it.
I just think it sounds awesome. I think it's really cool.
I believe, like a full year ago, somebody asked us
how if we'd want to be cremated or buried or what.
And while I firmly believe I want to be cremated,
I also now like this is such a cool idea
(35:10):
that I could see myself doing. Can get cremated and
then like my grandparents got cremated and then have tombstones,
they got their remains buried. What if you know, my
pound cake recipe that everybody wants so badly. I'm like,
you have to wait till I die. You can't, and
you can't because that's not even your recipe. That's like
our grandparents recipe and they like they specifically did not
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want it to be given up. So you can't do that.
That's not cool. So she was asked if she went
engrave on her own her own recipe on her own gravestone.
So she said she was torn between including mac and
cheese or clam linguini. So I get every clam linguinie.
I would like to know that recipe. So do you
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have one that you would put on there? Then? God,
I don't know. I can't. I can't say, like which
one would be. That's like so hard to say, Like
what dish represents me as a person, Like would it
be a dessert? Would it be this? Although everybody does
love my whips ricotta that is that is what I
bring to all of my parties, but it's not my recipe,
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so that would be kind of cheating. Well, you have to,
like I, I think you need to take recipes to
learn how to make something and then evolve it over
time to make your own yeah, I just you know
what though, the thing is like it's a good recipe
that I got online, and it's it doesn't need to
be altered. I mean, I do use that special glue
(36:38):
and free bread and I you know, I burn it
and things like that, but it's you don't need to
mess with certain things. Like I can't imagine how you
can make that better, you know what I mean? Like,
but I don't have like a I love cooking and
I think I cook well. But I cook well because
I can read directions and I find good recipes and
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I cook them. If you told me to go in
the kitchen and whip something up, like I can't, you
know what I mean? Like, just everybody's different. It's not
like like when I decorate my house. It's like I
see visions in my head and they come out and
I could I could have them come out with art
or like the kids projects, Like I have visions like
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that that I could execute with cooking. I just don't.
I don't really know how to do that, if that
makes any sense. No, it does, because I watch that
show Chopped a lot, which is like, you know, they
get a basket of mystery items and they have to
come up with a dish, and they're all they're always
super weird things that you wouldn't normally have. I think
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like my husband would be really good at that show.
He could just walk around the kitchen find really random
things that come up with a great dish. I'm more like,
I have chicken, I have taco sauce, I have tortillas.
Great Like I'm kind of closed minded in that way, Yeah,
but I do. I do cook with like lots of
easy stuff, and when I put it together, it's good.
But I just a lot of times I'm just like,
(38:04):
how would you even know to do this? And this
all of these steps and everything, Like I just wouldn't
even know how to do it. So I guess some
people have that with other aspects of their life too.
Maybe I'll get better as I get more experience and stuff,
but I'm just more of a find good recipe, read it,
cook it kind of gal. Well, you guys should let
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us know what recipe you would put on your tombstone
if you had to, because I think it's really defining
trait of everybody with their signature dish could be. So
I think it's a really cool thing that people I
do too for sure. Yeah, that girl definitely should make
a cookbook. I think especially people like that listen to
our show or other true crime shows will be super
into it. Yeah, that would be like a cool coffee
(38:48):
table book. But is it considered? You can find me
copytt no and no no, because it's just you're just
the curator of it. And who have who writes the
movie about the Santa Sarcophagus reinstating Christmas magic? Can thank
me for that? All right, Well, thank you guys so much.
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We hope you have a great weekend. We will see
you next week with some more news stories that you
could have great discussions at the Christmas table about. And
we don't even know what it is yet because the
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Hi, everyone, welcome. The mother knows that this is our
special Christmas edition. So let's get into the first story. Well,
since this is an X rated show, it only to
quote pop up, it only makes sense to start with
a penis story, so which really isn't even a Christmas story,
but the deformity has to do with Christmas, so we're
(00:46):
just gonna go with it. Yeah, exactly, all right. So
this forty three year old guy went to the doctor
and he said that he noticed a decrease in his
penis length but an increase in his girth. So this
can be caused by a condition called perih disease. Have
you ever heard of it? No, So it's just scarring
inside of the penis, which could happen if you have
(01:06):
a lot of rough sex. It could happen in other
ways too, but that's one of the common ways that
it happens. And what happens is it could kink off
the blood supply, and in this case, it caused venus insufficiency.
So that means that the blood from the penis during
erection that was going back to the heart was kind
of backing up into the penis and it was causing
(01:28):
his penis to, like Maria said, it looked like it
was shorter in length and wider. And it's called a
Christmas tree deformity because the penis actually looks like the
shape of a Christmas tree the pictures of it. When
you see the pictures of it, you'll say, oh, Okay,
this is this is why it's called it's called that. Yeah,
this post is called Christmas in June in the gross room.
(01:50):
I mean, you definitely, I think just I wrote the
article in June, That's why I've called it that. I
think just you know, talking about it, you can't really
have like a full visual of his factly what this
looks like. But I do think it's a really accurate
description based on the pictures you included. So so yeah,
So I also show photos of the surgical repair of it,
which is it's pretty intense thinking, like especially if a
(02:14):
guy looks at the surgery, they're going to be like,
oh my god, that looks insane. They basically cut a
circumferential incision around his previous circumcision from when he was
a kid. That they cut a circle around his penis
and they slid the skin down. They basically like to
glove the penis slid it down, and then they were
(02:36):
able to squeeze the skin over and just kind of
sinch it and make it look more normal, and he
was able to have better sex and just enjoy his
life more thing. He was happy with the cosmetic results
a few months later. Well, it's good, I guess that
you could at least get surgery and fix this, so
you just don't have to, I mean, cosmetically, you want
to be okay with the way you look. But I'm
(02:58):
sure it was painful too. Yeah, it was painful, and
also for his partner, it was probably really painful because
it did get super thick, you know what I mean,
Like that could cause pain for some people. So so yeah,
all right, this next one couldn't be more amazingly timed
news wise. This is a recent story, believe it or not.
(03:18):
So last week in Massachusetts, police had gone to this
house to execute a search for it. I'm gonna say,
based later on the charges that it was drug related.
So when they get to this two house, there's these
two males there. They're freaking out. They decide they need
to escape through the roof, so they get up on
the roof. One of the men was able to jump
off and land on a parked car. But the other
(03:39):
guy was seemingly really inspired by you know, the time
of year, and thought it would be great to jump
down the chimney and try to get out the other
way there, just like Santa. Yeah, and then what happened
though is terrifying for me. It's terrifying when I just
look at the pictures. It's this guy inside of a chimney.
It looks like it's at least twenty feet down. There's
(04:00):
absolutely no way he could get out by himself, and
it's it's just bricks encasing his shoulders and everything like that.
He could barely probably turn around that if he even can,
and you could just see like the cops looking down
at him in this chimney. So he obviously gets like stuck, right,
and then the cops he's running away from have to
end up rescuing him out of this chimney. What are
(04:24):
you doing? Listen, You're not gonna believe this. I don't
know if I ever told you this story, but I
have a similar story that happened in our childhood to this.
Oh my god, So I don't know if I ever
told you this. So when my dad was building the
addition on our house. I was a young teenager and
(04:45):
my brother was was maybe five or something years old.
He was pretty little, and we were helped. We helped
my dad build the addition. So I remember being on
a ladder and just holding up the drywall when my
dad would nail it in and things like that. Well,
my brother also helped, but he was he was way
younger than me, and he was walking in this one
(05:08):
part of the house and he fell through the ceiling,
which was only you know, some we had a case
of this a few months ago that some person fell
through the ceiling of a house, like through the attic,
you know, because if you have the rafters that are
just the wood, and you just put a piece of
drywall to cover it to make the ceiling, there's nothing
(05:30):
to protect you. You'll fall right through it. Like in
let me give you a better example, like in Christmas
Vacation when he goes up in the attic and puts
the presence up there and then he falls through and
he ends up standing on the kid's bunk bed. Yeah,
I know exactly. Okay, you're talking about it. So, so
Louis was holding a hammer and he fell through drywall
like that into a space where my dad, like in case,
(05:54):
the chimney, the top of the chimney where he was
building the addition, and he felt like an entire story
in between the chimney and the wall in a space
like that, skinny. And of course I don't know why
Mom's perspective of what this happened, but my dad was
probably like, oh shit, I'm gonna get in a lot
of trouble from my wife because of this. So he
(06:15):
grabbed me. I can't even believe I'm saying this out loud,
because this is so outrageous. He grabbed me and like
lowered me down to grab Louis and then pulled us
both both back up, like we never had to call
nine on one, No one had to come rescue us.
But like, not only did the five year old have
a hammer and fell a story down that spot, but
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then on top of that, he lowered me as a
young kid too down to get him. Wait, so did
he lower you down by your feet? So yeah, you're
like head down, Yes, so there was the potential you
could have fallen too and gotten seriously on your head. Yes,
It's so outrageous. It's like unbelievable. And I remember, I mean,
I guess somebody told them because she knows about it,
(07:00):
but I don't know if she was home, if she
wasn't home when it happened. Like whatever happened, it just
shit was just different into eighties all just to be
that right now. I have heard this story of Louis falling,
but I don't think I realized that you were the
one to scoop them out. I would it did it?
Like it just was the way it was presented to
me was it wasn't that bad and they were just
(07:20):
able to get out. It was no he he no,
because like pop Pop couldn't reach them, you know what
I means, such a typical eighties dad moved. Yeah. Yeah,
And there's like thousands of stories of us being in
just similar kind of danger at all times, you know,
just so nobody got hurt at the end of the day.
(07:40):
It was all fo no. I mean, maybe the only
reason mo Mom found out was because we told her,
Like I don't. I don't know if he actually did
or whatever. We'll have to ask them the story. But
it's really classic lou qualteriri if you ask me. But
but yeah, so this is this this, just this photo
reminded me of Louis like standing like being inside of
(08:01):
the Yet you guys have to look at the article
of my little brother just standing like inside of the
chimney like that, Like it just was funny. Wellis Louis
was five and like skinny and able to get out
really easy. Not a full grown man, No, no, he
would and he was Louis was like probably at that age,
he was probably like forty pounds or something. He was
(08:22):
like a skinny, like, you know, a skinny little thing.
So but yeah, with this guy, it's just I guess
it's just funny because if you're running from the cops,
you're just gonna try to go anywhere to not get caught.
But like you have to think that that would be
just like a terrible idea. And they did bring him
to the hospital because you know, he fell twenty feet
(08:43):
in encased in bricks, so he could have hurt himself,
but I don't think he ended up getting that hurt.
And now he got arrested, right well, I don't want
to say for sure that drugs were involved, but that
is what he got charged with, possession of Class A drugs,
possession of Class B drugs. They said he also so
at a slew of charges from outstanding Warrens. So was
(09:03):
he on all of the drugs? I'm gonna say possibly.
And then the other guy did end up getting caught later,
but I'm sure they were like, cool, we just wanted to,
you know, search this house for drugs, and now we
have to rescue this complete idiot out of the chimneys.
So I wonder just how that all went down. I'm
sure the cops were just like just another day at work,
(09:25):
all right. Before we get into this next story, can
we talk about the history of Santa Claus for a minute.
I always thought that he originated from like Germany or something,
and I think I feel that way because I watched
that animation last night Santa Claus is coming to town,
and they make it very German. Yeah. I never I
never really thought about it. I feel like at some
(09:47):
point I learned about it in school, but I don't
really I don't really remember. So enlighten us. Okay, So
apparently Saint Nicholas was a bishop in Turkey over sixteen
hundred years ago. I never would have guessed the origin
was from Turkey, just based on all these classic tales
and everything. So he was said to have inherited money
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from his family, which he took and turned into this
ultra generous figure. So basically, he died in the year
three hundred and forty three CE, or AD as we
knew it for a while. Originally his bones were thought
to be buried in Venice, but in the fifties, I
guess they found these bones and they were able to
determine that all of the bones together were from the
(10:28):
same person, but they couldn't confirm at the time if
they actually did belong to Saint Nicholas. So anyway, archaeologists
have now discovered this sarcophagus that they think actually belongs
to Saint Nicholas, and it makes sense because it's at
the Saint Nicholas Church in Turkey. Yeah, and I guess
he was moved there two hundred years after he died, right,
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So that's that's why they think that it's definitely that
goes along with the story that's been being told that
he was moved from his original place to death to
this church. So yeah, so I think it's so cool
if it turns out to be I don't know, because like,
even if they were able to do any kind of
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DNA on it, which I doubt it's just so old,
you know. I don't know how they would be able
to determine that it was really him, just because it
was such a long time ago. You know. Well, I
guess they'll have anthropologists looking at the age of the
bones and stuff, right, and if they could date it
back to that time, they might be able to make
(11:31):
an assumption. But yeah, I don't know how they'd know.
But I at first was like, isn't it obvious that
his remains would be at the church built in his honor?
But I guess it seems like this sarcophagus was like
hidden within the walls. Did you get that impression? Yeah,
it looks like it was hidden, but it looked you know.
It's the same thing when when they excavate people in Egypt, right,
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it's like you can tell if they were of some
importance by the way that they were And it's just
like this isn't just like some random that's buried there,
you know what I mean, Like this person had significance
in the presentation of the way that they were buried.
This reminded me of that scene from National Treasure when
they go under the church in Philly and they break
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through the grave site and then they find all the
treasure hidden at the end of it. It was just
like the pictures of this just reminded me of that
for some reason. But that movie is like, I love
that movie, but it's also so terrible. Do you know
other Maria was an extra Yeah, I know. It makes
me so happy actually, but it's just it's one of
(12:36):
those movies that it's like The Mummy, right, they're just
like really cringey and kind of terrible, but also the
best movie ever, you know, Yeah, I agree with that.
Just it has really corny one liners, but it is
cool in concept. And I don't know anything Nicholas Cage
is in. It's just kind of cringe anymore. But he's
but he's in Moonstruck, which is the best movie ever.
(12:58):
Well that's in our opinion, the best movie he was
ever in, right, But I don't know, I think this
is super cool. I'm surprised it took them this long
to look there. Were they hired to do this because
they thought it or I don't really know. I don't know.
I just think it's super cool that it happened right
before Christmas. So yeah, they said it excites them greatly.
(13:19):
I guess they're gonna get the rest. They were showing
pictures of them still taking it out of the wall.
I guess they're gonna get the rest of it out
and try to conduct studies and try to see if
they could figure out if it's the real Saint Nicholas
or not. But it's certainly an interesting discover. Wait did
they So they found the sarcophagus but they didn't open
it yet. Well, I don't think they fully got it out.
(13:41):
Oh okay, maybe by the time we're recording this they did.
But the news article only had pictures of it partially, okay,
So I don't know. I'm also, you know, part of
me thinks it's cool to find these artifacts and research
them and everything too. But I'm like the purpose of
him being buried there was so he could lay peacefully
in this building that was dedicated to him, So why
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are we disturbing his grave? They're respectful of that. Sometimes
they have all these different imaging tools and things that
they can bring there, and they've recently found a lot
of mommies, you know, and they won't cut them up
in stuff like they used to. But just because they're
able to do imaging that's so much more specific than
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it used to be, you know, and people are starting
to say, like, hey, we should respect the remains instead
of being like we say, you know, but back in
the day, it was like we found the trophy, like
you know, if they weren't robbed and you found it intact,
it was like insane. You know, I actually feel like
this could be an awesome movie. So let's say you
write this script and it's like these archaeologists are digging
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up and they think they found Santa, and they take
him out and everything, and then his magic rein states
and comes to life. So then all these adults that
stop believing in Santa have to believe like in the
Santa Claus movie with Tim out. All right, let's talk
(15:10):
about some toy injuries now, all right, So we talked
about a couple over the past couple of weeks. We
talked about the atomic lab that was marketed in the
nineteen fifties that was for sale, that ended up selling
at auction for sixteen thousand, five hundred dollars. It's so
crazy that somebody would spend that much money on that. Well, yeah,
(15:32):
because it's the only time that you could buy radioactive material.
It's not that easy to come by. So that kit
actually in the nineteen fifties sold for forty nine dollars
and fifty cents, which is a shit ton of money
for back then. Yeah, if you think about that, that
it's equivalent to six hundred and fifty dollars of today's money.
So that's a lot for a toy, and that is
(15:53):
part well, they say that's part of the reason why
it the sales weren't good, but I think the real
reason is because you were exposing people to uranium and radiation,
and that's just we knew that wasn't good at the time.
But we also talked about Remember we talked about daycare
workers getting charged because kids ingested water beads. Yeah, we
(16:14):
talked about water beads a lot, definitely in the grocery room.
But I think we've had a couple of stories on here, right, Yeah,
so we do have a post in the grocery room,
a couple posts in the grocer room. But if you
go to this specific one that's on the toy injuries,
you could see the photos as well of how big
these little tiny plastic beads kind of engorge within a
child's bow and cause an obstruction and leads to surgery.
(16:39):
Could lead to perforation and even death in some cases,
which is terrible. Some of the other toys that we
talk about in this article are the slip and slide.
That was one of my favorites when I was a kid. Yeah,
we had one when I was little, and I liked it,
but I feel like it hurt. It does hurt. And
the thing is, when you think about slip and slides,
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you think that For me, when I first started learning
about why they're so bad, I thought it would be
due to lacerations because the one that I had was
with when I was a kid, had these like metal
hooks that you kind of that's how you anchored it
into the grass, and I remember going on it and
always hitting one of those or just like hitting a
(17:22):
rock underneath or something and cutting your leg. So that's
what I was like, Oh, that's why, because you could
get hurt with that. But really the biggest problem with
a slip inside is that adults, especially because like the
heavier and the bigger a person is, they could accelerate
so fast, right, but then they Also, I don't know
if you remember going on the slip and slide, like
if it's not totally wet, you can kind of come
(17:44):
to a complete stop, like very abruptly, and it could
cause serious neck injuries and it caused paralysis in some people.
Like it's crazy. It could even kill you. In theory,
you could break your neck. So that's something I didn't
even really say think about as a kid that you
would have. It would almost be like a severe form
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of whiplash in a way that you're going so fast
and stop and your head jolts back like that. Other
ones that were in there. Of the jarts is a jart.
It's it's like a it's a dark, horrible name. It's
a dart, you know, like a dart. You would throw
it a dartboard, but it's huge to throw outside and
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instead of it, I mean, you could get hurt with
a dart too, But the jart had this thick metal,
heavy like stiff hanging out of the bottom of it
that you when you threw it, I guess it could
go and like go into the dirt. I don't know
what you were supposed to throw it at. I think
it was a game of some sort kind of like
horseshoes or something like. Okay that you were throw these things.
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And in nineteen eighty seven, these kids were playing outside
and this boy, a little kid, threw it and it
went over the fence and hit his sister in the
head and it killed her. So it's but when you
look at a picture of the thing, you're like, yeah,
of course that was going to hurt somebody, especially because
you're telling kids to throw them. So but people still
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have them in their garage and stuff, which is kind
of cool. But why are those going to be sold
for sixteen thousand dollars next that auction? Well, speaking of
another dangerous science kid, there was a in the two thousands,
so recently, when we have all this information about dangerous substances,
they were selling this CSI fingerprinting kit and that had
as festus in it. Yeah, which I don't understand why,
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But think about like when you're doing fingerprints, it's like
you're using loose powder or blush right with a brush
and you're kind of brushing over where you're looking for fingerprints,
So all you're doing is just creating dust that little
kids are breathing in. Like asbestos can damage your lungs
and it could eventually lead to a certain kind of cancer.
Like I think if if let's say, for example, you
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had it when you were a little kid, and you
played with it once, you'll be fine. It's more like
chronic exposure. That's why people that work with asbestos are
more likely to get damage to their lungs and musicthelial
mode because of asbestos disposure. But one time isn't going
to kill you. But also why why expose a kid
to it? You know what I mean. Yeah, I was
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most surprised when we were writing this stuff that they
said some of the most common injuries are from non
scooter motorized scooters and skateboard Oh yeah, yeah, they they're
the most common gift. Yeah, they're the most common injuries
that are seen in emergency rooms and stuff from falling
off of those things. For shortened bikes, well, I think
when you get one as a little kid, you're just
(20:38):
stoked and you have, you know, no coordination at all,
so you just go crazy in the things on wheels
Like I could now as an adult ride a non
motorized won't find But if even if I get on
the motorized ones that they have in certain cities and stuff.
I'm like, forget it. I can't. They're so bad because
they go so fast. They can go really really fast
with and who like you. I remember seeing them when
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I went to Miami, and it's like, all right, you're
in downtown Miami. I don't carry a bike helmet with
me everywhere, but I want to take this thing to
get from here to hear like most people aren't wearing helmets.
With those things, and they go fast, you just will
get seriously injured. If you're going fifteen or twenty miles
an hour and you fall and hit your head, you're
gonna get seriously injured, you know, Yeah, And you know
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I've I've written them a couple of times. When I
was in Knoxville last summer, I thought that was the
best landscape for it, because you know, University at Tennessee
wasn't in session, so there was barely any people there.
Their roads are actually really nice and smooth and there's
not a lot of potholes and stuff, so that was
a pleasurable experience. But the time I rode them before
was in Santa Monica, which the roads are not good
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and there's lots of cracks, and there's heavy traffic, and
it was very overwhelming, especially as somebody not experienced in
riding anything like that. So that was very scary and
I could very easily. I mean I did fall off
of it at one point, but I could see getting
in a serious injury. You know. Things on those lists too,
is the Healey sneakers. Those were my shit when I
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was in sixth grade. Sianna broke her arm on the
My niece broke her arm on it. She was going
up the steps and she fell backwards and she hit
she broke thehead of her. Humorous with those skates, yeah,
I mean those popped up in middle school and went
away so fast. My teachers were not having it. They
were so pissed about all the kids. I feel around back.
(22:26):
They are back. I've been seeing them everywhere, so that's
speaking off because they've determined that they were bad and
got rid of them, I thought, and then they get
them back. I don't think they were banned. I think
they just went they weren't cool anymore. So people stepped
by out because I was gonna say, like, another toy
that's on our list is the the magnets, Those little
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tiny magnets so they were a big thing for a while,
and then you couldn't buy them anymore. And then I
was just looking on Amazon for something to buy for
my nephew yesterday and they're for sale again on there,
these magnets. So I mean, obviously, if I get them
for a kid that's seven years old, they're fine. But
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if there's ever a baby around, that's where the danger occurs.
If a kid puts it in their mouth, you know,
which is scary because those magnets, like, let's say you
swallow a couple of them, and they're so so strong,
they stick pieces of the bowl together and they do
the same exact thing. They cause an obstruction, and you know,
pretend you put magnets in something like I don't even
(23:30):
want to use a hose as an example, because a
hose has such a thick wall, not like the bow does,
but it sticks the pieces of it together and then
the food can't move through it, and again it's the
same thing. It causes an obstruction and could cause a
perforation and stuff. So they're really dangerous, and for some
reason they were banned other back, so I don't know
(23:51):
what's up with that. We just like forget about things. Yeah,
and then I guess in the most of modern times
twenty twenty four, we have the oculus. So the one
case you add in the grocerym this kid cut this
insane hive around his eye. And then I guess in
other cases people are wearing them and just bumping into
their surroundings and falling and just totally not vaying attention. Yeah,
So just to read that post to just get it's
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a lot more of the toys or like things back
in the day which you just can't like, you know,
you can't imagine a father like lowering their daughter down
to can get their son out of a hole in
the wall. So it's the same thing here. It's just
kind of nuts. Listen. Pop up relistically was gonna be like,
I will do anything possible not to have nine to
one one. He is so anti Liz going to the
(24:36):
hospital calling anyone for help, let alone having emergency workers there.
Forget it. He would be so embarrassed if somebody had
to come to the house. Well, one time he was
installing cabinets in the house and holding the cabinets by
himself over his head and he dropped it and it
hit the corner like hit his head. And he came
in my room with his hands on his head and
he was gushing blood and I could see his frontal
(24:59):
bone because it was giant skin flap of huge laceration,
right partial like evulsion injury, and he's just and mo,
Mom wasn't home, and I, you know, I'm like a
teenager and freaking out, like, oh I'm gonna clone, I
will wane, Oh my god, and he's just like don't
like turns are like, don't you jerr with like a
(25:19):
monster voice, you know, because like his biggest fear ever
is an ambulance coming to our house and and him
getting embarrassed. You know, so God forbid an ambulance comes
to help you when you your whole farhead's bleeding everywhere. Yeah,
And so we brought him to that. He ended up
getting a lot of stitches over twenty I think on
his forehead, and it was an upside down horseshoe, which
(25:41):
was hilarious. But yeah, he I mean it was fine.
Heads bleed a lot, so it just looks worse than
it is, you know. It definitely wasn't nine one one worthy,
But like I saw all that blood and just like
all right, this next case. Is this like high profile
true crime? We never heard of it until this week. Yeah,
(26:03):
we wrote us up this week for a high profile.
That's the section two parts. Usually we split them in
two parts if they're really we don't want people to
get bored reading so many words. Sometimes that we split
them up if they're a lot of information. So basically
what happened was this guy and his wife were getting
a divorce. It seemed like there was maybe some financial
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issues the guy was having. He also had a son
that he kept a secret that he had abandoned because
the kid had some brain injury, and then when the
wife found out about it, she obviously was not cool
with it. The kid apparently got her in a swimming
pool when the kid was little and either drowned, partially drowned, whatever,
and had permanent brain damage. And then the guy was like, yeah, peace,
(26:46):
I don't want anything to do with this kid anymore.
So didn't want anything to do with the kid anymore,
but still claimed him as a dependent on his taxes
for seven years because that's something normal to do. So
only like a year and a half into their marriage,
wife finds all of this out, and you know, how
do you get past something like that. I don't know,
because that's that's outrageous. Could you imagine like something so
(27:09):
I would be like, so wait a second. So you
have a kid and I didn't know about this kid,
and not only that, you went through this traumatic thing
that your child got injured to the point where their
brain damage and stuff, and now you like skipped out.
I would I would? I don't know. I feel like
that's grounds for divorce. Yeah, and she had a couple
of children, so obviously you want to know that the
person you're marrying is going to be good to your children.
(27:32):
And how does that happen if they have a pass
like this? Yeah, But anyway, they go to get divorced
and she wants spouse with support. And then he got
fired from his job for fraudulently billing for hours he
wasn't working to his clients. And then apparently they had
saved like eighty eight thousand dollars in their brief marriage
together as like a nest egg, and then he dwindled
(27:54):
it down to seventeen grand. So not only is the
whole something happening, but then there's this financial component too.
So right before Christmas, I think it was actually this
is coming out December nineteenth, So December eighteenth, two thousand
and eight, their divorce gets finalized. And then on Christmas
Eve that year, only a couple days later, he shows
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up to her family's Christmas party at their house, dresses
Santa Claus, and when this eight year old opens the door,
he shoots her in the face. Yeah, it's so outrageous.
And he came also with a package with a bell
on it, which ended up being this air compressor that
he tried to turn into a spray device to spray
(28:35):
racing fuel all over the house as well. Yeah, so
when the door's first opened by her eight year old knees,
he shoots her and then just starts like opening fire
into the house. He's like clipping all these adults. It
was late at night, what was it, around eleven thirty
at night, So a bunch of people were at the
front of the house because they were getting ready to
go home. So of course they fell victim just because
(28:56):
they were in this part of the house. And then
luckily a bunch the kids were in the back of
the house or outside, so they were able to get
to safety and some capacity. But after he ran out
of ammunition. Then he starts spraying this fuel over the house.
He doesn't know this because this wasn't part of his plan.
There's an open flame somewhere in the house, so the
house just goes up immediately, the thing explodes, and then
(29:19):
he ends up catching on fire too, and he's saying like, yeah,
like a Santa suit is the shittiest fabric ever. It's
like ray on velvet, it's so flammable. So the suit
catches on fire and actually starts melting into his skin.
So he gets serious like second and third degree burns
all over his hands and arms at the time too.
(29:40):
So yeah, so the house is completely engulfed in flames.
He leaves the scene. Nine people die in the house
out of they said twenty five to thirty people were
in attendance at this party, so he kills a bunch
of the family members. Then he drives to his brother's house,
which is about forty miles away, and then ends up
shooting himself. Yeah so he yeah, so he kills himself.
(30:02):
He was probably they weren't sure if he was planning
on doing that anyway, because he didn't leave a note.
But only in like twenty five percent of case is
of suicide someone actually leaves a note, So that's just
if someone doesn't leave a note, that doesn't mean that
they weren't planning it. But he had bought plane tickets
to escape to go to another state. So from that theory,
(30:24):
they probably think that he was not initially planning on
killing himself. But then when they did the autopsy, they
saw how severe these burns we were on his arms,
and that would suggest that maybe he was in so
much pain didn't obviously he didn't go and get treatment
because he couldn't get treatment and not explain where he
got those kinds of burns from. So he was in
(30:46):
I mean, think about how much pain you're in when
you get burned with the curling iron, Like really it's
just the worst feeling in the world, and just imagine
having it on your hands and arms and not getting treatment. Like,
maybe he just didn't want to be on the run
anymore and he decided he was going to get in
trouble and just off himself because of that. Yeah, So
what we're gonna cover coming up this Monday is that
(31:08):
there was two rental cars he had. They were booby trapped,
and the investigation was just insane, So yeah, and it was.
It's an interesting from a forensic standpoint because they initially
only found eight bodies, and because the house was completely
burned up, so they knew that there was nine people
that weren't accounted for. They found eight bodies, and then
(31:30):
a couple days later they found the ninth body, and
then they weren't able to identify all of them right away,
So they were only able to identify I think six
of them at first, and then the other three they
had to identify by either pulling their dental records or
their old medical records. So if you have a body
that can't be identified, and that means like they you
(31:52):
can't see a tattoo, you can't see their facial features,
there's nothing on them that like screams that it's them,
they're not just going to assume that it's that it's
a person. So they'll go to your dentist and they'll say, hey,
can I have the missing persons dental records? And then
they'll take X rays of the dead body and then
they'll confirm. They could do it with dental records or
(32:14):
they could do it with X rays, like if you
ever broke your arm, or something like that. So, and
my dentist actually said that somebody he's and he's been
practicing for a long time, and he's like, in the
entire time I've been practicing, I've only had the medical
examiner call me once to for dental records to identify
that body. Yeah, he was telling me about it. It
was pretty cool. I mean not cool for the person obviously,
(32:36):
but he knew who it was. It was like one
of his patients and stuff, you know. So, so that
had ended up happening in this case that they had
to identify three of the bodies, one of them actually
being the ex wife because she was so charred. And
when they did the autopsies on all of the bodies,
they said that all of them had gunshot wounds and
(32:57):
some of them and this is kind of cool too
from a forensic perspective, that some of them died as
a result of their gunshot women and some of them
died from the fire. And the way that you could
tell that is that you open the trachea and the
lungs and you could see if their soot in the lungs,
that means that they were alive in breathing at the time.
Where the fire was burning. So if he came in
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and like shot someone and they and they died right
then and there, before the fire even happened, they wouldn't
have any soot in their lungs. And the craziest part
of the story is the eight year old that was
shot in the face at the door survived. Yeah, and
now she's she's older and she talks about it, which
she's she's actually an advocate for gun violence now, which
is cool. She's in her twenties, right, Yeah, but she's
(33:39):
on Instagram and she goes to all these events and stuff,
and yeah, I mean, I can't I can't even imagine.
Not only did she get shot in the face as
a child, which is terrible, but her grandparents got killed,
her aunts and uncles. Like traumatic and like seeing everybody
run out knowing they burned to death. I mean, like
that's some that's some shit, man, for real. Yeah. Well,
(34:04):
let's end on a lighter note, which is this article
you really called Recipes from the Grave. So this is
one TikTok trend I could really get behind. This girl
went to cemeteries and went around the people's gravestones, took
recipes that they had etched on the gravestones and then
baked them. Yeah. I love this. So in the photo
it's a there's a recipe for sugar cookie for the
(34:26):
what are they called sprit sprits or whatever, the sprits cooks.
The sprits cookies that they're the ones that are specific
to go in the gun, right, Yeah. Yeah, So there's
a recipe for that how to make those cookies and
they are kind of the best. They're like one of
the best ones to have. Yeah. So I never even
thought of that that people put like their favorite recipe
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on their tombstone, which is so cool and honestly, like,
I hope she would make a cookbook out of it.
I just think it sounds awesome. I think it's really cool.
I believe, like a full year ago, somebody asked us
how if we'd want to be cremated or buried or what.
And while I firmly believe I want to be cremated,
I also now like this is such a cool idea
(35:10):
that I could see myself doing. Can get cremated and
then like my grandparents got cremated and then have tombstones,
they got their remains buried. What if you know, my
pound cake recipe that everybody wants so badly. I'm like,
you have to wait till I die. You can't, and
you can't because that's not even your recipe. That's like
our grandparents recipe and they like they specifically did not
(35:32):
want it to be given up. So you can't do that.
That's not cool. So she was asked if she went
engrave on her own her own recipe on her own gravestone.
So she said she was torn between including mac and
cheese or clam linguini. So I get every clam linguinie.
I would like to know that recipe. So do you
(35:54):
have one that you would put on there? Then? God,
I don't know. I can't. I can't say, like which
one would be. That's like so hard to say, Like
what dish represents me as a person, Like would it
be a dessert? Would it be this? Although everybody does
love my whips ricotta that is that is what I
bring to all of my parties, but it's not my recipe,
(36:17):
so that would be kind of cheating. Well, you have to,
like I, I think you need to take recipes to
learn how to make something and then evolve it over
time to make your own yeah, I just you know
what though, the thing is like it's a good recipe
that I got online, and it's it doesn't need to
be altered. I mean, I do use that special glue
(36:38):
and free bread and I you know, I burn it
and things like that, but it's you don't need to
mess with certain things. Like I can't imagine how you
can make that better, you know what I mean? Like,
but I don't have like a I love cooking and
I think I cook well. But I cook well because
I can read directions and I find good recipes and
(36:59):
I cook them. If you told me to go in
the kitchen and whip something up, like I can't, you
know what I mean? Like, just everybody's different. It's not
like like when I decorate my house. It's like I
see visions in my head and they come out and
I could I could have them come out with art
or like the kids projects, Like I have visions like
(37:22):
that that I could execute with cooking. I just don't.
I don't really know how to do that, if that
makes any sense. No, it does, because I watch that
show Chopped a lot, which is like, you know, they
get a basket of mystery items and they have to
come up with a dish, and they're all they're always
super weird things that you wouldn't normally have. I think
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like my husband would be really good at that show.
He could just walk around the kitchen find really random
things that come up with a great dish. I'm more like,
I have chicken, I have taco sauce, I have tortillas.
Great Like I'm kind of closed minded in that way, Yeah,
but I do. I do cook with like lots of
easy stuff, and when I put it together, it's good.
But I just a lot of times I'm just like,
(38:04):
how would you even know to do this? And this
all of these steps and everything, Like I just wouldn't
even know how to do it. So I guess some
people have that with other aspects of their life too.
Maybe I'll get better as I get more experience and stuff,
but I'm just more of a find good recipe, read it,
cook it kind of gal. Well, you guys should let
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us know what recipe you would put on your tombstone
if you had to, because I think it's really defining
trait of everybody with their signature dish could be. So
I think it's a really cool thing that people I
do too for sure. Yeah, that girl definitely should make
a cookbook. I think especially people like that listen to
our show or other true crime shows will be super
into it. Yeah, that would be like a cool coffee
(38:48):
table book. But is it considered? You can find me
copytt no and no no, because it's just you're just
the curator of it. And who have who writes the
movie about the Santa Sarcophagus reinstating Christmas magic? Can thank
me for that? All right, Well, thank you guys so much.
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We hope you have a great weekend. We will see
you next week with some more news stories that you
could have great discussions at the Christmas table about. And
we don't even know what it is yet because the
news hasn't even happened yet, so stay tuned. Thanks, thank
you for listening to Mother Nos Death. As a reminder,
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