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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi. Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows That. On today's episode,
we're going to talk about the latest bizarre developments involving
a female dentist who went missing. Britney Spears is in
the news because her ex, Kevin Federline, has written a
book that has some scandalous accusations, an extreme interpretation of
bring your child to Workday, a scandal involving a fake baby,
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and a funeral home that presented a family with the
wrong body. Then we'll end the episode with some of
your questions and emails. All that and more. On today's episode,
let's talk about this dentist story because it is bizarre.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, I saw this story circulating online about this Georgia Dennis.
She was reported missing after she didn't show up to
work last week. Police went to go do a welfare check.
They found her phone was left behind, but her wallet
in her car was gone. The car was later found
abandoned in a parking lot. So the news was reporting
that she was found safe after a former patient saw
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her at the mall. However, her husband has posted on
Facebook that she's not safe and is seemingly with the
man she is scared of.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, and let me read the Facebook post to you.
It says, so it's on her Facebook page. Correct.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, I went on it and I didn't see it
on her Facebook page. I saw he posted it on
his and it was reshared to hers. So this screenshot
has me questioning that unless it was originally posted on
hers and then was deleted.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So it says this is Leslie. Melanie is not safe.
She was observed being dragged around a market by the
person she is with. She is being manipulated and controlled.
When confronted by the gentleman who spotted them because she
was his dentist, the guy said she was starting to
yell at him. She is so scared of the person
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she is with. She is not fork right with the police.
He was charged with beating one of his wives. She
is in a mental health crisis and needs professional help
and intervention immediately. The police do not know and do
not do to any justice whatsoever, and let them both leave.
If anyone sees her, please do not leave and call
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this is weird nine eight eight and share her location.
What's nine eight eight? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I don't even know but the husband was traveling out
of state at the time, So I don't know if
one of her employees at the dentist's office, or I
don't even know if she was the main dentist here,
if somebody at her work called him and said she
never showed up or whatever. But he's the one that
reported her missing, and a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Of her family and friends said that that was very
out of character.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, and the police saying, quote, we would like to
reassure everyone that Melanie was not in any danger and
there is no indication of foul play. However, there's all
these unconfirmed reports now that this man she's with is
allegedly a man she's been having an affair with for
ten years, and he was also reported missing, and his
wife went on his computer, found a secret Yahoo account
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and exposed the whole affair. These are unconfirmed reports, but
this is what is circulating all lot.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, it's just it's like such juicy drama. Apparently, so
this woman's husband and the woman were going to her
as patients at the dentist, like she was their dentist.
How are you looking in somebody?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Don't they say Dennis have like the highest mental health
of the highest rate of mental health problems because they're
like staring in the mouths all day.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Really, I don't know if that's true. I just think
that there's much more stressful jobs than that.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Like, honestly, I don't know, but I remember reading probably
five to ten years ago that Dennis had the high
suicide rate out of any medical profession, and I just.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know, I'm bringing that boring. That's the only thing
I could know.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It's there's something else I shouldn't even say because I
don't even know the full details of it. But basically
what I'm getting is how do you go from looking
at someone's mouth, which is like pretty disgusting, to be like, oh,
we're gonna bang later on.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I just can't understand it. Yeah, I don't either, And
it's the whole entire thing. So now a lot of
people are speculating that the husband is making this post
saying that she's mentally unwell and she's there against her
will to kind of save face because he's embarrassed that
she was having an affair or something. But I don't
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know when I just think it's kind of especially if
the friends were saying it's out of character, it is
a little bizarre when you're a wife and a mother
and you own something like a dental practice to just
not show up one day and not be available by
phone to the point where they're reporting that you're missing
sing on the news. That to me does imply that
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there's some kind of a mental health crisis going on.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Because also, if you are both gonna fake your own
kid things or whatever, fake their own disappearances, why are
you going out in public and seemingly somewhat local to
where you went missing from? This seems very unusual.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It is, there's just way more to the story. But
I think that there's definitely some I mean, you could
totally see that. People do this all the way. That's
why there's there's a term like run away together. Let's
run away together, Like yeah, but I've just pictured they
literally try to.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I think think about you see that doctor Don's missing, right,
and then you're at the Cherry home all and you
see him walking around.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You're like, hey, doctor Dodd, do you realize you're missing?
Why are you here? And how could you be?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Because she's not she's not that old, right, so she's
I thinks in her early fifties. Yeah, so she she's
a person that goes on the internet, you suppose, like,
there's no way that she didn't know that her face
was plastered everywhere because people obviously when family reports that
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a person's missing and it's out of character and it's
a young.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Woman, you're like, oh god, someone kidnapped her and killed her.
Like that's I think doctor Priya even put a post
up that was just like, hopefully this woman's found safe,
and like people were genuinely concerned that she was missing.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Well, of course, and like now that all these other
details are coming out, it's kind of a little bit
reminding me of that Cherry Peppini story. There's just a
lot of details adding up. Actually, we have two stories
on this episode that remind me of stories we talked
about on our episode with doctor Leslie Dobson.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Oh really, yeah, what's the other one?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I'm just a fake pregnancy scandal. Oh okay, all right,
yeah so that's later on. Yeah, So I don't know, like,
I don't know what's going on with this.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
If we hear any updates, we'll talk about it, because
this could you know, first it's suspicion of a kidnapping,
slash homicide, and now we're talking about some serious psych
issues perhaps, so just we'll keep you updated if we
hear anything more on this.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, And I don't necessarily mean to make light of it.
I mean, she could very well still be a kidnapping
victim in some regard, but I just need.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I don't know, the wife just found ten year evidence
of a relationship, So I mean, I guess you could
be kidnapped.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
But that's what Cherry Peppini was arguing that she was
having an affair with that guy and he got disgruntled
and kidnapped her. Yeah, even though the total bullshit.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
We have bigger mental health issues this week, and we're
talking about Britney Spears and all of these revelations that
have been made in Kevin Fetterline's new book.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
All right, So Kevin Fetterline, who is Britney Spears' ex husband,
father of her children, he's coming out with this new
memoir and along with that, he's making accusations like she
did cocaine while she breastfed and one of her sons did.
These are serious things to be putting out there.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
They're sirious, but they're kind of believable. Honestly, Like I
I've seen and I love her and I feel terrible
for her. I really think that she has a terrible life.
And I've always said this, but you've seen her on
social media over the past couple of years, like there's
just like something's not right there. No, she's one.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Hundred percent not mentally well. And it's not that I
don't believe these stories, but I'm I'm gonna sit here
and say, I think it's kind of gross that he's
writing this book because she's clearly a mentally unwell person,
so you're gonna like air out all her shit like that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Well, I think that he has determined that the relationship
with her sons is forever tarnished, and he was just
kind of like, I think.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
His child support just ended and he needs some money
and that's why he wrote this book.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's it's totally possible, but like, at the same time,
it could it could very well be true. I don't,
I don't, I don't, I wouldn't. Anything that he said
doesn't seem like it would be out of the realm
of possibility. I mean, when you think about her life
and what she kind of was thrown into and just
think about being like a teenager a normal teenager and
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getting thrown into this life being a huge sex symbol
when you're a teenager, which was weird anyway, Sure it's disturbing.
It's just like the Baby One More Time video is
freaking weird when you look at it with twenty twenty
five eyes thinking that that's a child, and just the
way that you know when you're when you're that kind
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of an entity, everyone around you uses the shit out
of you to make money off of you. And that's
exactly what happened.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, I want to talk about that, So let's start
off with the cocaine part of this. So Kevin Federline
is claiming that he had an album release party in
two thousand and six, which like, why are you relevant
to be having an album release party because you're married
to Britney Spears and she was supposed to be staying
home with the sons, who at the time were one
years old and one month old. But later on she
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shows up to the party with surprise him with her dad,
and he's claiming that he walked in on her doing
cocaine with an unnamed actress. So then they went home
later that night and he claims he begged her not
to breastfeed the kids, and she did it anyway, and
that's when their marriage was over. Although I want to
say I've read her book and obviously, as disclosed, she's
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not fully there and the book could be whatever. It's
just her perspective. But she's saying the reason their marriage
ended was because the fame and money was really corrupting him,
and I could totally see that being a problem too.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, I mean totally, but she that was around what
year was that with the cocaine. I'm just curious, in
two thousand and six, Okay, So if you recall a
few months after that she had, that's when she had
her infamous breakdown, like publicly with the umbrella and the
glens and the shaped head and all that. You know,
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when she had that like episode with the paparazzi and everything.
And also listen to what you said. She has a
one year old and a one month old, which means
her kids have an eleven month interval between them. That's
very short. So she was pregnant essentially back to back, right,
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I mean, she definitely seems like did she ever admit
or say she was diagnosed with postpartum depression or psychosis
or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, but like, this is what I said after her
book came out, is that I think she was already
verging on having what I call child star syndrome, which
is you're just like off because of that, right, and
then she has the back to back pregnancies, and I
think she was having severe postpartum depression, if not postpartum psychosis,
which we talked about at our Dark Side show over
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the weekend. And everybody in her life was just blowing
her off like she was crazy. And then they were
putting her own lithe and all these crazy drugs and
then just being like, oh, she's crazy. And I think
she was genuinely struggling with something so serious and everybody
was blowing her off.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, And there was a lot to like, you know,
this is the thing. You make this this child the
sex symbol because you could really say that most people
when they're sixteen years old have like that's usually when
your body is like the most slammin', right, because you're
young and your skin's tight, and you know, then she
has two kids. I'll never forget she did a performance
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after she had the kids, and her body she's still
skinny as hell, but like she had a belly, like
she looked like it wasn't as flat as it was before.
It just looked like more normal now, I guess, And
everybody was just talking shit on her, and like she
never she never really bounced back from that. She never
came out with another album, and like was the Brittany
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that was prior to having the kids, which is which
a lot of women can relate to, Like things change
when you have for your own life, right, I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
That's not necessarily true. She did have an album and
a residency after that was kind of yeah, bringing back
her old ways, but of course she's not one hundred
percent herself. And then I think that residency ended up.
I don't remember what she said about it in the book,
if she had a bad time or if she reflected
on it positively, but I feel like that was the
real turning point, when she was like really really really
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going off the rails and had to kind of go
and hiding in her house. Yeah, I mean it's I
just do feel terrible for her. And then of course
she meets up with this guy and she just did
it again. Though, didn't she just like have a quick
marriage with some super way too hot guy that was
like a secure who was he like? But he's complicit too,
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because it's like she she's out of her mind and
doesn't know what she's doing and the people are using her.
And I'm just saying, like she's having this baby, and
like you're saying, she had to do a performance right
after she gives birth. Imagine the pressure that your whole
family is making money off of you, and if you
just want to take off, you can't because everybody's relying
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on you.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oh, I know that pressure actually, But seriously, I do
understand that. But I always try to look at at
situations from both sides, and from his perspective, it's like
he was kind of forced to be a single dad
and have to deal with the mess up. I mean,
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not because the mom's dead. The mom's still there and
the mom is still like inducing trauma into the children's
lives and just trying to give the kids as much
of a normal life as possible with her. You know,
she publicly comes out and says all this stuff. And
now it's like the boys are old enough to realize
what's happening, and it's just really sad when children aren't
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with their mother in the first place. No, totally.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
But I also want to bring up the argument, like
from all accounts I've heard, he's this wonderful dad and everything,
so I don't want to downplay that. But if he
really wanted to separate himself from her, he should have
made something of himself, stopped accepting money from her because
they're still living off of her.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But but like he was raising her kids, I know
he deserves to get money. Like, listen, if you're.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Association with her whatsoever, he should have said, I'm good,
step back and not taken it. Yes, he has a
right to have it, but he actually got He got
cheated because forty thousand dollars a month when your mom
is Britney Spears, is like really not that much child support,
it's honestly, But like he made the decision to marry her,
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he made the decision to have children with her.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It's part of the deal.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I'm not saying it's fair, but I think this book
is gross. I think even if the relationship with the
children and her has been established to be terrible, it's
still gross that their father is putting this out there.
You know, the number one rule of divorce is the
parents should not talk shit on each other. It doesn't
matter if the kids are five or forty five, you
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should not be talking shit on the other parent. And
that's exactly how I see it. I am a child
that did not their parents were not together my whole life,
and I see this as being gross.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, but it's just a different situation. I don't know,
Like he's been dragged through the mud as well and
still is to this day, and maybe he just wanted
to be like, let me tell you what was going
on behind the scenes. From my perspective, I understand that,
and he has a right to do it. I'm just
saying I think it's gross, and I mean you have
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to command him in a certain degree because for a
man to take over little kids like that and raise
them and try to and like, listen, I don't know
what the hell's going on at his house. It might
not be normal, but it seems like they have a
semi stable life considering like what's going on at her house.
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I mean, it's just it's a lot to take on and.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Like who fucking who, because the women are supposed to
do it. I don't I have I just don't have
said it that he made the decision I have children,
so like part of that is like what if what
if the mother dies? Guess what a dad has to
do it too? Is he extra special because he's a
man and he did it like they should be doing it.
It's like when men say, oh, I'm babysitting my kids today,
they're your fucking kids. You're not babies today, that they're
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your kids.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, but we're not talking about if it's a man
or a woman. Just just if a woman had to
do that too. It's I mean, like women do it
every single day, And that's what I'm saying. It's fine,
but I'm saying in this particular situation with Britney Spears,
just because those kids didn't really have a chance to
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have any kind of a normal, stable life, and he
could have went, you know, he could have been seeing
you know, going to strip clubs every night and like
blowing money on drugs. But he had them in a
stable environment.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
But do you think it's stable that now they're in
their twenties and their father just wrote a book exposing
all this horrible stuff their mother did, and now they're
going to be burdened by the Internet and paparazzi in
the press.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Well, I'm sure that this is what I'm getting. I'm
sure that. Listen, like, if you're a child that grows
up that was rejected by your parent and also your
parent actually told you that they wished you were dead,
I'm pretty sure that like they're egging it on and
just like, yeah, fuck you expose that bitch, right, Like.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, she's If she was a normal person, i'd say
go for it. But she is clearly mentally ill. So
like where do you draw the line. We're not talking
about a person that's seemingly living life regularly and just
is like has crazy tendencies, like she is not okay.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I don't know, But so let's talk about if she
really did use cocaine during pregnant during a breastfeeding because
if you use cocaine while you're pregnant, it's obviously it's
a big no no, and it is when you are
breastfeeding as well, because from a toxicology standpoint, the breast
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milk will test positive for cocaine and its metabolites. And
one of the most disturbing things. I don't know why
I think this is so disturbing when parents use drugs
and they are breastfeeding. Especially in this case with cocaine,
the urine would be positive for cocaine. So if your
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baby got a urine test, it would be positive for
cocaine as if they were a drug user. It's just
so it's kind of just sad and disturbing, and in
some cases like that, especially when there's cases of neglect
and a history of drug use, that could actually get
your child taken away from you if your child tests positive.
But let me tell you this interesting. So cocaine's a
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drug that gets out of your system pretty fast. So
they say, like if Britney Spears was legitimately doing coke
that night, if she would have just not breastfed and
dumped her milk for twenty four hours, she would have
been okay again to breastfeed the kid. That's what they
say that you should wait like twenty four hours. It's
a fast drug. That's why a lot of people could
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do it that are getting drug tested, because if you
have a couple of days off, you could do it
and it's out of your system fast. So let me
tell you about this one case though, a woman who
was breastfeeding her one weak old daughter reported using a
dab of cocaine on her lower gum and nursing her
infant with no effect. So there was no effect on
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the infant that the mom could see, and it didn't
affect the sleep pattern at all of the infant. So
then she thought the next week she was gonna one
up it and snort a bunch of lines of cocaine
over a four hour period. And during this time she
breastfed five different times. So three hours after the mom
had first done the cocaine, she noticed that her infant
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became marketably irritable, had dilated pupils, began vomiting and having diarrhea,
and the baby became so irritable that they took They
finally went to the emergency room with the baby, and
on examination they said that the infant had tremors, was irritable,
very easily startled after minimal stimulation, had a high pitch cry,
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hyperactive reflexes, hypertension, and the infant remained this way for
twelve hours after the cocaine exposure, and it started easing
up after twenty four hours, and seventy two hours later
there was still increase in high blood pressure. This makes
me sick. It's so sad. Right, babies can display symptoms
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of cocaine withdrawal if they're if the others using while breastfeeding,
so it's it's serious. And like, just to his defense,
I don't know what's true because I don't live their lives,
but like if she's been saying this whole time, we
broke up because he couldn't handle fame, and he was
just like, no, actually we broke up because you did
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coke and you were trying to feed it to my baby.
Like I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I'm sorry, no, And.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I'm not defending her actions. I'm just saying, like, with
everything they've gone through over the last twenty years, I
don't think it's right for the kids to have even
more damning information about her. Like I see it as
him exploiting an extremely mentally ill person.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, I mean that's that definitely could be said. And
he's I believe he even said something about her being
mentally ill.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
But and her actions are indefensible because she's a mentally
ill pert, you know what I'm trying to say, Like
she's not a regular person.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, really, there's just so there's
just so many details to her specific case, but there's
a lot of different situations that he is citing proving
that she was kind of putting the kids in dangerous situations. Yeah,
and I mean I feel like that's obvious, like ignoring
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their allergies, feeding a child shellfish that had an allergy,
one time a son was hospitalized because he got a
hold of pills, and then other like a little bit
weird things like keeping the kid in diaper a little
bit longer than they should have been, even after well
after the kid was potty trained, telling the kid when
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he was ten years old that he had to still
take baths with the mom.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Like it was like, it's all inappropriate, obviously.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Like if this is true, it seems, which it very
well could just be some kind of weird Freudian thing
or something that she's still trying to hold onto her
childhood and she's trying to make this son not grow
up and hold on to his childhood. But but like
you could see these different examples of why a person
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was like like they didn't even let her have visitation
of those kids. They I mean, she if the thing
is is she's Britney Spears, so everybody's like, no Brittany.
Stand up for Brittany. But like if she was like
some crackhead on the street around here, you'd be like
that lady sucks. She's like negligent to her kids, and
like she deserves to lose her kids, you know what
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I mean, Like, well, this is what I'm getting, the
same behaviors.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I feel like what I was saying earlier is going
to come across like I'm defending what she did, and
if these things are true, I'm absolutely not and I
think they're disgusting things. But like she's not there, and
that's the point I'm trying to get it.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
One conversation that's serious that we I guess that we
just have to have as a society is if if
everyone can attribute them can attribute their behaviors to and
being an asshole to mental illness, then like, who is
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really responsible for anything? And does anybody ever do any wrong?
Because you can always you can always just be like, well,
just all these videos that I've been seeing online of
these different narcissistic personalities sort of burden out blah blah,
all these things right, autism and as an adult add
autism of all this stuff neurodivergent, all these words. It's
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just like you're literally giving every single person an excuse
to just suck at life.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
No, because I think there's a fine line between people
that can function day to day and they have problems,
and I think there's people like her that, like, I
don't even think she can drive or do anything. I
don't think she's a functional person like that, So she could.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Dance in over your bichanium knife.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Think about somebody with schizophrenia, they're totally out of their mind.
Are they in the category she's something dynagic?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah? No, I'm just using that as an example.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Thinkause somebody was schizophrenia, Are they in the same category
as somebody that's, you know, going to work every day
and being sane, but they just are a bad persian
or they just are fucking narcissists, you know they're not.
Narcissism is in personality disorder, and it could narcissists can
function in society and their day to day life worre schizophrenic.
So that's where you draw the line, if they could
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function in society or not. I feel like she's on
the level of having like mental delusion and not fully
being present.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Well, I don't know. I don't know about any of
that shit. I don't know enough about it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I'm just like, I just I'm just saying that's my
perspective from what I hear in Hollywood about her, from videos,
I observe of her behavior, everything we've seen in the press.
I obviously don't know her personally, but.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I mean, I listen, I'm not like an anti Britney person.
I feel I do feel terrible for her, and I
think if she was, if she was a guy, we
would be having a totally different conversation. It's just like
she lived, she's she's blew up so much as a
sixteen year old child, and she's been under the microscope
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this whole entire time, so every single time. I can't imagine,
just think, thinking back on my life of different bad
periods I went through, I can't like it was hard
enough to go through in the privacy of my own home,
let alone being in the public like that. I can't
imagine what just that level of fame does to a person.
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And you could see it makes most of them kind
of weird, honestly.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Well, I kind of compare her to Judy Garland in
a way. Because you know, they had similar pads and
the sense of Judy Garland got so famous as a
teenager for being a Wizard of Oz, and then all
of a sudden, you know, there's all this demand for
her and the studio and her agents and everybody around her,
like I don't give a shit if you're sick, take
this pill, take this pill, take this pill. And then
all of a sudden, you have a lifelong drug addict
(28:05):
and her brain is fried all at the hands of
other people that are making money off of her.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
They're puppets. Yeah, I know, it's it's terrible. And she
especially with her too, it was like, you know, if
you compare someone like her to to Taylor Swift, it
was like Taylor Swift, which gets on my nerves. So
I can't believe I'm saying this, but she she kind
of evolved to what she is on her own in
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a way. It seems like she wanted to do the music.
I mean, obviously she had people helping her along the
way and stuff, but Britney spears, she seems like she's
she was more of a performer and they were just
like like she didn't make her own music. They were
just like this is who you're gonna be, this is
the look you're gonna have, this is the song you're
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gonna sing, and you're just gonna get up there and
do it. Like, Yes, she's she's a performer, I think.
And it's just it's they and they made their money
off of her for this short period, but I just
think it permanently damaged the rest of her life. And
it's very sad for a mom to not have raised
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her children and to still not have a great relationship
with them, if any relationship at all. It's just really
terrible to see.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I mean, this is gonna be my week of book recommendations,
especially for tomorrow's episode. But like I also think people
if they want a similar inside look with a person
that wasn't quite affected, I think people should read I'm
Glad my Mom Died by Jeanette McCurdy because it gives
a good example from the child's perspective of parents that
are forcing this job on their child and how it
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could affect their life so deeply.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Like I'm into the Weeds a ton on Britney Spears
and this whole conservatorship and stuff. But I would I
would say that the biggest person to blame in this
situation is probably like her parents. It's oh, of course,
but didn't jam I forget because I didn't. I just
recall this now, just scrolling through that Jamie Lynn had
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said something negative about Brittany in the news this week
as well.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Jamie Lynn wrote a book, you know, like everybody in
her life's writing books like oh she was the worst,
blah blah blah, Like Okay, well you guys would have
anything if it wasn't for her. So like that's just
kind of where I'm coming at, Like, I understand Kevin
Federlines had an extremely difficult time. I'm not saying what
happened in was easy and dealing with somebody like that's
not easy, but I don't think you should exploit it either.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
All right, let's talk about this next case of an
extreme bring your child to work day.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
So, a brain surgeon in Australia allegedly allowed her twelve
year old daughter to drill a hole in a patient's
skull during an emergency surgery.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Like, I don't even know what to say about this,
but it is interesting because I don't know how it
works in Australia and I don't know why the kid.
There was the kid there for well, it does seem
like maybe the mom got called in to do this
emergency surgery, as that would happen, and then the kid
tagged along.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
That wasn't clarified. But this happened in January of twenty
twenty four. So they're saying a farm worker was flown
to the hospital after a tree branch fell on his head,
So they said the kid was there. She reportedly had
an interest in medicine, so the bomb encouraged her to
get into scrubs and come into operating room with them,
and that's when the incident happened.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So I don't necessarily have a problem with the kid
being there because, like I was just saying, like in
our country, we do bring your kid to work day,
and the kids always they'll say they want to go
to work with Gabe and we're just like, you can't.
You can't go to work with daddy, Like what are
you going to do if he has to leave on
the fire truck day? So you always wonder what to
(31:53):
do with kids if you have important jobs. And I
mean I used to bring you to work a lot,
but there is there is I mean, you would come
to work when you were definitely that age and be
around blood borne pathogens and stuff. I mean, it probably
wasn't a great idea, honestly. The liability of that.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Well, you weren't working with live patients, so it's a
little different. But you wouldn't just be like, go grab
a scalpel blade and cut this placenta open like you
would show stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I would never No, I would never put you in
any kind of situation like that. But I mean the
worst thing I had you do was run slides back
to the pathologists, probably right like.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I mean, later, I think I helped sometimes with making
like frozens, but not even really. I was like, yay,
you would just like make the chalk for us or whatever.
And that's when I was an official intern. I wasn't
just there. I was actually an intern, and.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
You weren't doing the actual specimens. You were just making
like the base with the frozen stuff for yeah, exactly.
But yeah, I mean, I think the way that it
went down is even more unusual because it seems as
if the mom left the room to take a phone
call and there was another like a more junior surgeon
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in the room, and the kid did it and it
wasn't like the mom was holding it and the kid
was just kind of holding it too. At the same time,
it was like the kid legitimately was drilling into someone's skull.
And I'm assuming they were making burholes or something like
that to allow evacuation of a clot or swelling. But
(33:30):
what I guess what's scary about that. I've never worked
on a skull from that perspective, But I don't know
how the tools are made. If they're made in a
certain way that the drill bit can't go into the
brain tissue, because that would just be absolutely devastating. So
(33:51):
I'm sure there's some kind of a way to there's
certain tools or tips or something to prevent something like
that from happening. But what, like, why is a lawsuit
coming forth because it seems as if the guy didn't
have any complications and he was fine.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I don't think there's a lawsuit. I think that they
were criminally charged.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
So the patient really is like, how did this come
to light? Like somebody eventually said something about it.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
So this is where it's kind of confusing, and there's
conflicting reports because they're like, Okay, so the senior surgeons
and the junior surgeons were all fired because they were
in the room and let it happen, basically, and the
mother is saying, quote, my biggest mistake was letting her
go to the operating table. So in some capacity, she's
admitting she let her in the room, but then she's
denying that they let the kid hold the drill. But
(34:44):
then the junior surgeon is saying he was holding it
the entire time, and she just kind of helped or
had her hands on it too. And then another person
in the room says, yeah, there was or two sets
of hands on it. But didn't the mom go around
bragging to people that, oh, my daughter did her first
droll hole, yeah, something like that. So I don't like
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something happened, Yeah, I don't. I hope to god she
wasn't dumb enough to post something like that online. But
are she clearly isn't making great decisions as it is.
I would say in the room, everybody was either fine
with it or they weren't going to challenge this woman
if she was a senior surgeon, right, because we see
a lot of that too, where other people working in
the room are not going to challenge the higher up.
(35:30):
But she did go around bragging to all her other
colleagues about it, So one of those people might have
been like, this is a major red flag and then
an investigation popped up and there it went, you know, yeah,
and now they're on trials.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I mean, it's just probably it's just probably not a
good idea on so many levels to put to bring
your kid to certain jobs, just because that's also just
a liability of again the child being exposed to bone
dust and just things that they really shouldn't they're not
(36:07):
prepared to handle. And let's say, for example, the guy
coated on the table and they had and like the
guy was dying in front of this little kid, Like
they don't need to see that shit either, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
No, And I guess if they're found guilty, this charge
could be punishable by up to a year in prison.
So was it worth losing your job and going to
jail just we need to like brag about your kid.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
We need to make a list of like doctors who
who sabotaged their own careers over dumb shit. Literally this
is so stupid, Like no, seriously, it's it's like becoming
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Okay, fake baby.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
This story has been all over TikTok. I just was
I've been seeing it everywhere basically, and then a couple
of you sent it to me, so I was like,
you know what, I don't know if I should believe
it or not. I have to wait until, like some
type of news article comes out, And sure enough one
did pretty quickly, and I was excited to break it down.
This was the other story I was saying, reminding me
(38:34):
of the episode with doctor Leslie Dobson.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Okay, all right, so let me break it down.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
In Scotland, this woman named Kia Cousins allegedly faked a
pregnancy by wearing a fake bump and claim she gave
birth earlier this month, only for her family to find
out the baby was one of those weird reborn dolls.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
We've had a couple stories about these reborn dolls on
the show, and they're all weird. Remember the one lady
that like breastfed them. Yes, they are so weird. I
don't really understand. I mean, I guess they say that
they're creative for people that might grieving mothers, grieving mothers
and stuff. I just I don't really, I don't really
(39:14):
understand the point. And I think there's a certain kind
of weirdness if you have one of these things and
they're really expensive.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I'm kind of questioning the intelligence level of everybody involved
in this story because I've been seeing some footage and
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
So wait, there's actual footage of what this woman looked
like with her fake pregnancy work. Yeah, and it's and
you're like, it's so obvious.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I saw a clip from her baby shower and immediately
she's wearing a super tight dress and immediately when she
turned around, I was like, you could see the straps
from the faked So.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
One of her friends did say, I knew it was
fake all along. She's been a liar her whole life,
but I didn't want to be the one to come
out to say it because everyone would have thought that
I was the jerk. And it's true, Like if if
she went up there and said that you look like
cause who does that?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
So like you making the accusation because you look like horrible.
It's really scary that someone would go to such depths
to carry on a light, especially.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Like you can carry. You know, the people that like
fake have in cancer. Yeah, you could tell everybody you
have cancer and then you could get treatment and then
you could say, oh, the chemotherapy worked and I no
longer have cancer, and you could collect a bunch of money,
And like, I guess there's a possibility that nobody would
ever figure it out because with cancer, it doesn't always
(40:37):
result in death. There's not always an end result, right
or they vary. With pregnancy, it always ends in a baby.
So how are you going to fake something that is alive?
You know what I mean that?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Well, this is why I'm questioning intelligence to people. But
hold up, so let me go back to the lights
she took first. So she's wearing the freak the fake belly,
which we talked about in that other story with doctor Leslie. Also,
she posted all these scans. She had videos of the
baby kicking, which I assume we're either made via AI
or she just pulled others people wearing neutral clothing. And
(41:15):
then she even provided doctor updates claiming that the baby
had a heart defect. So then what I'm seeing on
TikTok what happens? So this is I guess this is
all I'll good for. But like this in particular is
the biggest rip flag. She said she was having a
fight with the baby's father, so she decided.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
To give birth alone.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I'm sorry, but like, no matter how big of a
fight I'm getting with my husband or anybody I know
that's having a baby, somebody's gonna come to the hospital
and see you forgiving birth. You're not just going to
be alone there for what are you in the hospital
for two to three days normally?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, a forgiving birth? Well it could be short if
you have a like on complicated vaginal birth.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
But so then she's sending the baby, pictures of the
baby to family members, and then she's showing the baby
to family members and they said they started getting suspicious
because the baby was cold and wasn't making any movement
or wasn't making any noises.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
How do people live? So this is question can you
imagine experiencing this in real life? Like, think about this
for a second, Like, it's just so outrageous that someone
was presenting a doll as real and also assuming she
had a shower and everything, Like, why does she want
all these gifts for a baby that doesn't even exist
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that she doesn't need them for. It's just so weird.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
She's clearly a pathological liar and clearly on the verge
of mental illness because she's.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Not on any verds. There's no verch. She's a full
on crazy perd exactly.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
So then I guess everybody started getting suspicious about it.
And then her mom busted in her house and found
doll in her bedroom, and that's when she admitted it.
So then after that she texted the child's dad and
said the baby died. I have a theory happens in
people's lives.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
I have a theory the Reborn company is going out
to people and having them say to them, listen, we're
gonna pay you a ton of money to make up
the most outrageous story with these babies in order to
get publicity for it. It's the only thing that makes sense.
Like they went to somebody before and was like, okay,
you just go online and say that, you know, we'll
(43:37):
give you two thousand dollars, and you go online and
say you and you go online and yeah, allegedly you
go online and say that you stick your boob in
this fake doll's mouth, and it's gonna go viral and
our name Reborn is going to be all over the place.
Then this time it's like, you know what that Okay,
we've seen a diminished in sales. Let's let's give another
(44:00):
person a couple thousand dollars to make up this outrageous story. Like,
I just can't believe that this is this stuff is
happening in real life.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
So there's all these other videos popping up, which I
don't know if they're AI or they're really her, but
it's allegedly her addressing it, and she's she just keeps going, yeah,
I'm sorry for what I did. You know what.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
The sad obviously no remorse. The saddest part of life
right now is that from now until the day that
we die, will constantly be saying, I don't know if
this is real or AI. Yeah, like so scary, So like,
what's the point of life like that you don't know
what's real and what's fake. It's just including a baby,
I suppose. And that's why I.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Wanted to point out that this story is primarily circulating
on TikTok, but now real news outlets are covering it.
But I do have this inner feeling at the same
time that the whole thing is fake because it has
no outrageous I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
It has to be. I hope it is. I hope
for for humanity, for everything. Well, we talked about I mean,
this is a little bit different, but the case that
we have with joe Jaqualone last week about a woman
who I mean, she was really pregnant and she really
had a miscarriage, but she gave the dead feet us
(45:16):
to her ex in a cooler to get back at him.
I mean, listen, like, women fake pregnancies. This has been
going on since the beginning of time. Well yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
I want to say too, like to your point that
you made earlier, there are people in the comments on
these videos saying, who cares she got famous off of it?
What is she so?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah? But like is that what the goal of life
is is to become famous?
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah? But like you're famous for faking a pregnancy. Like,
it's not like you got famous for doing anything good,
good or stupid like dancing. You're the girl that faked pregnancy.
This story is just absolutely so bizarre. And like when
I see pictures that she's allegedly sending of this baby
to her family members, I'm like, are these people also
(45:59):
not smart that they can't tell in the photos it's
obviously not a real baby.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Well, it's It's just the same as we talk about
in lots of different cases it like, what was that
one girl's name? Lake and Snelling? Yeah, remember the one
recently the cheerleader that had her baby and killed it.
Every it seems like everyone around her was like, she's
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definitely pregnant, but like nobody wanted to say anything because
it to be the rare chance that you were wrong
about something that was very obvious in front of your
face was too scary for them to bring up. And
it's the same in this case, Like to accuse a
woman that's pregnant of not being pregnant is like it's
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kind of like crossing a really big line that if
you're wrong, that's that's not cool.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Do you think there's a possibility that she really got
pregnant and had a miscarriage? Andrews just like, I'll just
get pregnant again really.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Quick, or yeah, like or she or she had the
miscarriage and she just felt she liked the attention she
was getting for me and just didn't tell anybody. And
there's lots of possibilities.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
But I mean, she also could have just totally made
it up in nowhere. But what I just don't understand.
I understand did she also not have sex with the dude?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
The entire time, because like, if she was naked, it
would have been obvious. I didn't even think about that. Like,
he never saw her naked the whole time she was pregnant.
And I understand women get away with this for a
long time because they could just be like, oh, I
go to the ultratounds by myself whatever. But like once
the hospital was oh I gave birth by myself, I
was like, okay, either your family really sucks or like,
(47:46):
there's something fishy here. And then people are holding this
doll and saying, oh, it's cold because it's not alive. See,
that's how she ruined it. She should have put one
of those handwarmer things in the blanket. She clearly really
gave it away. They wouldn't have noticed when the kid
was four years old and still rubber. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
All right, let's wrap up with this funeral home story. So,
an LA County funeral home is being sued by a
family after they presented the wrong body in a casket
during a memorial and the distress caused another loved one
to have a heart attack at the funeral.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
I swear we talked about something like this before. I
swear we did I just can't. I can't remember where
and I couldn't find it, But I feel like that
we've talked about this before, but he likely had what
we call a broken heart disease. Remember we've talked about
this before that that this can happen under severe emotional distress.
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It's called Takasubo cardiomyopathy. And the reason it's called that
is because the heart makes a very unusual shape that
causes the it to squeeze in a very unus usual way.
It weakens the chambers and it looks like what's called
a taco subo pot, which is a Japanese fishing pot
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that catches an octopus. So that's why it got that name.
But it happens under severe emotional distress that they're you know,
your fight or flight hormones get released really fast, and
they could be toxic on the heart muscle as well
as it could cause coronary artery spasms. So it's not
typical of what you would see with a heart attack,
(49:29):
for example, but it could also induce something if this
guy had an underlying heart condition as well. And I
mean we've talked about definitely on the show multiple times
of people going into a funeral viewing and it not
being their family member, And I could imagine that that's
(49:49):
just a severe emotional distress of even though you've already
lost them and they're dead, just being like, well, who
is this and where's my loved one? That's time period
when they're miss and you don't know where they're at
is equally as devastating to a person.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Well think about this too, because it took the funeral
home over an hour to locate his body, and then
they were saying they were seriously downplaying it to being
a scheduling error that they made. And then even though
this funeral costs twenty thousand dollars, they were like, we'll
give you two hundred dollars refoot. So I think, in
general so insulting. It's so upsetting when it's not the
(50:28):
right person. And then on top of that, you're having
these people, you know, we're talking about this last week
when you like go to the doctor and they tell
you all this money that you weren't expecting and then
your blood pressure is so high you feel like you're
gonna have a stroke. And I could understand that, So
it's like not only distressing, you're there for a horrible reason.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
You're grieving, and then this company's being a total asshole
and just blowing you off. Well good, I hope their
negative press is. I would like if I was reading
about a specific funeral home doing something like that, and
especially it justn't It wasn't like, oh, he's in the
back and we switched the bodies. They brought them into
another room and they were like, yeah, that's still not him.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
It was like there was a way too long of
a period of like, where is our nephew and our
family member right now? Like, no, no's and he was
the guy who died was my age, right, he was
like in his mid forties.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yeah. Important to note, however, that the uncle that had
the heart attack did survive.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah he did, thank God. But what I'm saying though,
is like the guy who was in the casket, or
supposed to be in the casket was a younger person.
So yeah, that is upsetting too. It's not like it
was ninety eight year old grandpa that like had a
good life and we all expected him to die. It
was probably an unexpected death to begin with.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Oh, no, one hundred percent. All right, let's move on
to your comments and questions. Instagram has been worse than ever.
So if you guys have a pressing question, I would
encourage you to email it to Stories that Mother Knows Death,
along with any comments or contributions to stories you've heard whatever.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
You want to say.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
All right, First, have you ever seen a high I
don't even know if I hide it to formalhed it
to the formal. This listener is saying, my mother had
one that they thought was her fifth child. I believe
she had false labor at five months. When they found it,
my dad was relieved that he didn't have to get
a bigger house.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
So, yeah, it's I have seen it, and it's it's
kind of cool from a scientific perspective to see it.
Of course, in a situation where a person thinks that
they're having a baby, it's definitely not cool. But what
happens is that it's an abnormal fertilized egg that implants
into the uterus and causes a mass to form instead
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of either a normal pregnancy or the placenta growing correctly.
So there's two different kinds that you could have. So
you could have a compl mole, which is when a
fertilized egg contains two copies of the chromosome from the
father only and not the mother, so no baby grows,
and instead of a placenta, it just is like a
(53:14):
sack of grapes that it looks like like a bunch
of cysts. A partial one is a fertilized egg that
has a normal set of chromosomes from the mother and
two sets from the father, so there's sixty nine chromosomes
instead of forty six. And those cases are even more
sad because in those cases a fetus can grow, but
the placenta is just basically a cluster of grapes and
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it doesn't function as a normal placenta, and therefore the
fetus can't grow because it doesn't have a normal placenta.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
All right, Two, Who does the cleanup on a road
after a bad wreck? Some of the pics you post
are really messy, and how is the cleanup done?
Speaker 2 (53:54):
You know what else? I want to mention about the
molar pregnancy. If you have a mole pregnancy, you're at
an increased for us to have another one. And in
rare cases, you could get something called an invasive male
where that tissue that's in there can turn to cancer
and you could get like a pregnancy related cancer that's
(54:15):
called choreo carconoma. It's like a really really really rare
but I've seen that as well. Okay, onto the next
you're saying, what happens? All right again?
Speaker 1 (54:26):
What does the cleanup on a road?
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (54:29):
Who does the cleanup on a road after a bad wreck?
Some of the picture posts are really messy, and how
is the cleanup done?
Speaker 2 (54:35):
Don't I don't know at all really, I mean, the
Medical Examiner's office would collect all of the body parts.
So if someone gets hit by a truck and they're
smeared across the road, they're going to pick up as
many of the body parts as possible, put them in
a body bag, bring them to the medical Examiner's office.
I don't know. I mean, I know, my husband's a firefighter.
(54:57):
There's been cases where he's been called to wipe to
like sprague blood off the street with the hosts. I
don't know if that's standard. I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
I would think for maybe highways and stuff, there's a
designated maintenance crew that would have to I.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Mean, there's port there's definitely people. I mean, you've seen
I just saw a deer that I mean, they could
be the size of a human smeared across the road.
There's people that do roadkill, for sure, but I don't
know if they would be the same people that would
clean up after something like that. It's just a little
bit of a different situation because you know, the roads
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normally closed down for hours, and they're investigating and trying
to find out what happened and look for skid marks
and this and that where the body was hit, where
it flew to, body parts flown all over the place
and that. So I really just I really have no idea,
but I would think after an accident like that, especially
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investigating it for hours.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
And you have blood and and tissue that's dried on
the road, the only way to really get that up
would be with a higher power host. Well, you know,
like around here anyway, we have that company Serve Pro too,
and they deal with demolition and cleanups and crime scene cleanup.
So maybe they would get a company like that, because
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it's not like I mean, obviously, animals are getting killed
in the road often, but I think I see their
blood left there often. But I think if it was
a human, they're going to get a special company to
come in because it's a little more disturbing for anybody knows.
Let us know, let us know, all right. This last
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My one kid. Jesus, oh my god, the kids can't
sit down.
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Somebody at our live show what asked if the kids
thought we were cool or something, or if they thought
I was cool, And I was like, no, they think
we're both losers.
Speaker 2 (58:26):
They put nothing to.
Speaker 1 (58:28):
Do with anything we say, which is so funny.
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Yeah, that was it. It is funny because they'll when
we like Gabe and I bring the kids to school
almost every single day that he's not at work or
something and pick them up at the same time, you know,
and we'll be pulling up to the school to drop
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other people, Like they just don't even care like about
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Like what could you do to be cool to a kid?
I don't know, Just just not be their parent.
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That's it, Like there'sact exactly, or don't be their older
sister who they should think is the coolest person in
the world. It's that they just make fun of me
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi. Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows That. On today's episode,
we're going to talk about the latest bizarre developments involving
a female dentist who went missing. Britney Spears is in
the news because her ex, Kevin Federline, has written a
book that has some scandalous accusations, an extreme interpretation of
bring your child to Workday, a scandal involving a fake baby,
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and a funeral home that presented a family with the
wrong body. Then we'll end the episode with some of
your questions and emails. All that and more. On today's episode,
let's talk about this dentist story because it is bizarre.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Yeah, I saw this story circulating online about this Georgia Dennis.
She was reported missing after she didn't show up to
work last week. Police went to go do a welfare check.
They found her phone was left behind, but her wallet
in her car was gone. The car was later found
abandoned in a parking lot. So the news was reporting
that she was found safe after a former patient saw
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her at the mall. However, her husband has posted on
Facebook that she's not safe and is seemingly with the
man she is scared of.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, and let me read the Facebook post to you.
It says, so it's on her Facebook page. Correct.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, I went on it and I didn't see it
on her Facebook page. I saw he posted it on
his and it was reshared to hers. So this screenshot
has me questioning that unless it was originally posted on
hers and then was deleted.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
So it says this is Leslie. Melanie is not safe.
She was observed being dragged around a market by the
person she is with. She is being manipulated and controlled.
When confronted by the gentleman who spotted them because she
was his dentist, the guy said she was starting to
yell at him. She is so scared of the person
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she is with. She is not fork right with the police.
He was charged with beating one of his wives. She
is in a mental health crisis and needs professional help
and intervention immediately. The police do not know and do
not do to any justice whatsoever, and let them both leave.
If anyone sees her, please do not leave and call
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this is weird nine eight eight and share her location.
What's nine eight eight? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I don't even know but the husband was traveling out
of state at the time, So I don't know if
one of her employees at the dentist's office, or I
don't even know if she was the main dentist here,
if somebody at her work called him and said she
never showed up or whatever. But he's the one that
reported her missing, and a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Of her family and friends said that that was very
out of character.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, and the police saying, quote, we would like to
reassure everyone that Melanie was not in any danger and
there is no indication of foul play. However, there's all
these unconfirmed reports now that this man she's with is
allegedly a man she's been having an affair with for
ten years, and he was also reported missing, and his
wife went on his computer, found a secret Yahoo account
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and exposed the whole affair. These are unconfirmed reports, but
this is what is circulating all lot.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, it's just it's like such juicy drama. Apparently, so
this woman's husband and the woman were going to her
as patients at the dentist, like she was their dentist.
How are you looking in somebody?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Don't they say Dennis have like the highest mental health
of the highest rate of mental health problems because they're
like staring in the mouths all day.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Really, I don't know if that's true. I just think
that there's much more stressful jobs than that.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Like, honestly, I don't know, but I remember reading probably
five to ten years ago that Dennis had the high
suicide rate out of any medical profession, and I just.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
You know, I'm bringing that boring. That's the only thing
I could know.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
It's there's something else I shouldn't even say because I
don't even know the full details of it. But basically
what I'm getting is how do you go from looking
at someone's mouth, which is like pretty disgusting, to be like, oh,
we're gonna bang later on.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I just can't understand it. Yeah, I don't either, And
it's the whole entire thing. So now a lot of
people are speculating that the husband is making this post
saying that she's mentally unwell and she's there against her
will to kind of save face because he's embarrassed that
she was having an affair or something. But I don't
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know when I just think it's kind of especially if
the friends were saying it's out of character, it is
a little bizarre when you're a wife and a mother
and you own something like a dental practice to just
not show up one day and not be available by
phone to the point where they're reporting that you're missing
sing on the news. That to me does imply that
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there's some kind of a mental health crisis going on.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Because also, if you are both gonna fake your own
kid things or whatever, fake their own disappearances, why are
you going out in public and seemingly somewhat local to
where you went missing from? This seems very unusual.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It is, there's just way more to the story. But
I think that there's definitely some I mean, you could
totally see that. People do this all the way. That's
why there's there's a term like run away together. Let's
run away together, Like yeah, but I've just pictured they
literally try to.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I think think about you see that doctor Don's missing, right,
and then you're at the Cherry home all and you
see him walking around.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
You're like, hey, doctor Dodd, do you realize you're missing?
Why are you here? And how could you be?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Because she's not she's not that old, right, so she's
I thinks in her early fifties. Yeah, so she she's
a person that goes on the internet, you suppose, like,
there's no way that she didn't know that her face
was plastered everywhere because people obviously when family reports that
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a person's missing and it's out of character and it's
a young.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Woman, you're like, oh god, someone kidnapped her and killed her.
Like that's I think doctor Priya even put a post
up that was just like, hopefully this woman's found safe,
and like people were genuinely concerned that she was missing.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Well, of course, and like now that all these other
details are coming out, it's kind of a little bit
reminding me of that Cherry Peppini story. There's just a
lot of details adding up. Actually, we have two stories
on this episode that remind me of stories we talked
about on our episode with doctor Leslie Dobson.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Oh really, yeah, what's the other one?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I'm just a fake pregnancy scandal. Oh okay, all right,
yeah so that's later on. Yeah, So I don't know, like,
I don't know what's going on with this.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
If we hear any updates, we'll talk about it, because
this could you know, first it's suspicion of a kidnapping,
slash homicide, and now we're talking about some serious psych
issues perhaps, so just we'll keep you updated if we
hear anything more on this.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yeah, And I don't necessarily mean to make light of it.
I mean, she could very well still be a kidnapping
victim in some regard, but I just need.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I don't know, the wife just found ten year evidence
of a relationship, So I mean, I guess you could
be kidnapped.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
But that's what Cherry Peppini was arguing that she was
having an affair with that guy and he got disgruntled
and kidnapped her. Yeah, even though the total bullshit.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
We have bigger mental health issues this week, and we're
talking about Britney Spears and all of these revelations that
have been made in Kevin Fetterline's new book.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
All right, So Kevin Fetterline, who is Britney Spears' ex husband,
father of her children, he's coming out with this new
memoir and along with that, he's making accusations like she
did cocaine while she breastfed and one of her sons did.
These are serious things to be putting out there.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
They're sirious, but they're kind of believable. Honestly, Like I
I've seen and I love her and I feel terrible
for her. I really think that she has a terrible life.
And I've always said this, but you've seen her on
social media over the past couple of years, like there's
just like something's not right there. No, she's one.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Hundred percent not mentally well. And it's not that I
don't believe these stories, but I'm I'm gonna sit here
and say, I think it's kind of gross that he's
writing this book because she's clearly a mentally unwell person,
so you're gonna like air out all her shit like that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Well, I think that he has determined that the relationship
with her sons is forever tarnished, and he was just
kind of like, I think.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
His child support just ended and he needs some money
and that's why he wrote this book.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's it's totally possible, but like, at the same time,
it could it could very well be true. I don't,
I don't, I don't, I wouldn't. Anything that he said
doesn't seem like it would be out of the realm
of possibility. I mean, when you think about her life
and what she kind of was thrown into and just
think about being like a teenager a normal teenager and
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getting thrown into this life being a huge sex symbol
when you're a teenager, which was weird anyway, Sure it's disturbing.
It's just like the Baby One More Time video is
freaking weird when you look at it with twenty twenty
five eyes thinking that that's a child, and just the
way that you know when you're when you're that kind
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of an entity, everyone around you uses the shit out
of you to make money off of you. And that's
exactly what happened.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, I want to talk about that, So let's start
off with the cocaine part of this. So Kevin Federline
is claiming that he had an album release party in
two thousand and six, which like, why are you relevant
to be having an album release party because you're married
to Britney Spears and she was supposed to be staying
home with the sons, who at the time were one
years old and one month old. But later on she
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shows up to the party with surprise him with her dad,
and he's claiming that he walked in on her doing
cocaine with an unnamed actress. So then they went home
later that night and he claims he begged her not
to breastfeed the kids, and she did it anyway, and
that's when their marriage was over. Although I want to
say I've read her book and obviously, as disclosed, she's
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not fully there and the book could be whatever. It's
just her perspective. But she's saying the reason their marriage
ended was because the fame and money was really corrupting him,
and I could totally see that being a problem too.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, I mean totally, but she that was around what
year was that with the cocaine. I'm just curious, in
two thousand and six, Okay, So if you recall a
few months after that she had, that's when she had
her infamous breakdown, like publicly with the umbrella and the
glens and the shaped head and all that. You know,
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when she had that like episode with the paparazzi and everything.
And also listen to what you said. She has a
one year old and a one month old, which means
her kids have an eleven month interval between them. That's
very short. So she was pregnant essentially back to back, right,
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I mean, she definitely seems like did she ever admit
or say she was diagnosed with postpartum depression or psychosis
or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, but like, this is what I said after her
book came out, is that I think she was already
verging on having what I call child star syndrome, which
is you're just like off because of that, right, and
then she has the back to back pregnancies, and I
think she was having severe postpartum depression, if not postpartum psychosis,
which we talked about at our Dark Side show over
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the weekend. And everybody in her life was just blowing
her off like she was crazy. And then they were
putting her own lithe and all these crazy drugs and
then just being like, oh, she's crazy. And I think
she was genuinely struggling with something so serious and everybody
was blowing her off.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yeah, And there was a lot to like, you know,
this is the thing. You make this this child the
sex symbol because you could really say that most people
when they're sixteen years old have like that's usually when
your body is like the most slammin', right, because you're
young and your skin's tight, and you know, then she
has two kids. I'll never forget she did a performance
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after she had the kids, and her body she's still
skinny as hell, but like she had a belly, like
she looked like it wasn't as flat as it was before.
It just looked like more normal now, I guess, And
everybody was just talking shit on her, and like she
never she never really bounced back from that. She never
came out with another album, and like was the Brittany
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that was prior to having the kids, which is which
a lot of women can relate to, Like things change
when you have for your own life, right, I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
That's not necessarily true. She did have an album and
a residency after that was kind of yeah, bringing back
her old ways, but of course she's not one hundred
percent herself. And then I think that residency ended up.
I don't remember what she said about it in the book,
if she had a bad time or if she reflected
on it positively, but I feel like that was the
real turning point, when she was like really really really
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going off the rails and had to kind of go
and hiding in her house. Yeah, I mean it's I
just do feel terrible for her. And then of course
she meets up with this guy and she just did
it again. Though, didn't she just like have a quick
marriage with some super way too hot guy that was
like a secure who was he like? But he's complicit too,
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because it's like she she's out of her mind and
doesn't know what she's doing and the people are using her.
And I'm just saying, like she's having this baby, and
like you're saying, she had to do a performance right
after she gives birth. Imagine the pressure that your whole
family is making money off of you, and if you
just want to take off, you can't because everybody's relying
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on you.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oh, I know that pressure actually, But seriously, I do
understand that. But I always try to look at at
situations from both sides, and from his perspective, it's like
he was kind of forced to be a single dad
and have to deal with the mess up. I mean,
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not because the mom's dead. The mom's still there and
the mom is still like inducing trauma into the children's
lives and just trying to give the kids as much
of a normal life as possible with her. You know,
she publicly comes out and says all this stuff. And
now it's like the boys are old enough to realize
what's happening, and it's just really sad when children aren't
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with their mother in the first place. No, totally.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
But I also want to bring up the argument, like
from all accounts I've heard, he's this wonderful dad and everything,
so I don't want to downplay that. But if he
really wanted to separate himself from her, he should have
made something of himself, stopped accepting money from her because
they're still living off of her.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
But but like he was raising her kids, I know
he deserves to get money. Like, listen, if you're.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Association with her whatsoever, he should have said, I'm good,
step back and not taken it. Yes, he has a
right to have it, but he actually got He got
cheated because forty thousand dollars a month when your mom
is Britney Spears, is like really not that much child support,
it's honestly, But like he made the decision to marry her,
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he made the decision to have children with her.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It's part of the deal.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I'm not saying it's fair, but I think this book
is gross. I think even if the relationship with the
children and her has been established to be terrible, it's
still gross that their father is putting this out there.
You know, the number one rule of divorce is the
parents should not talk shit on each other. It doesn't
matter if the kids are five or forty five, you
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should not be talking shit on the other parent. And
that's exactly how I see it. I am a child
that did not their parents were not together my whole life,
and I see this as being gross.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, but it's just a different situation. I don't know,
Like he's been dragged through the mud as well and
still is to this day, and maybe he just wanted
to be like, let me tell you what was going
on behind the scenes. From my perspective, I understand that,
and he has a right to do it. I'm just
saying I think it's gross, and I mean you have
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to command him in a certain degree because for a
man to take over little kids like that and raise
them and try to and like, listen, I don't know
what the hell's going on at his house. It might
not be normal, but it seems like they have a
semi stable life considering like what's going on at her house.
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I mean, it's just it's a lot to take on and.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Like who fucking who, because the women are supposed to
do it. I don't I have I just don't have
said it that he made the decision I have children,
so like part of that is like what if what
if the mother dies? Guess what a dad has to
do it too? Is he extra special because he's a
man and he did it like they should be doing it.
It's like when men say, oh, I'm babysitting my kids today,
they're your fucking kids. You're not babies today, that they're
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your kids.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, but we're not talking about if it's a man
or a woman. Just just if a woman had to
do that too. It's I mean, like women do it
every single day, And that's what I'm saying. It's fine,
but I'm saying in this particular situation with Britney Spears,
just because those kids didn't really have a chance to
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have any kind of a normal, stable life, and he
could have went, you know, he could have been seeing
you know, going to strip clubs every night and like
blowing money on drugs. But he had them in a
stable environment.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
But do you think it's stable that now they're in
their twenties and their father just wrote a book exposing
all this horrible stuff their mother did, and now they're
going to be burdened by the Internet and paparazzi in
the press.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Well, I'm sure that this is what I'm getting. I'm
sure that. Listen, like, if you're a child that grows
up that was rejected by your parent and also your
parent actually told you that they wished you were dead,
I'm pretty sure that like they're egging it on and
just like, yeah, fuck you expose that bitch, right, Like.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Well, she's If she was a normal person, i'd say
go for it. But she is clearly mentally ill. So
like where do you draw the line. We're not talking
about a person that's seemingly living life regularly and just
is like has crazy tendencies, like she is not okay.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I don't know, But so let's talk about if she
really did use cocaine during pregnant during a breastfeeding because
if you use cocaine while you're pregnant, it's obviously it's
a big no no, and it is when you are
breastfeeding as well, because from a toxicology standpoint, the breast
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milk will test positive for cocaine and its metabolites. And
one of the most disturbing things. I don't know why
I think this is so disturbing when parents use drugs
and they are breastfeeding. Especially in this case with cocaine,
the urine would be positive for cocaine. So if your
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baby got a urine test, it would be positive for
cocaine as if they were a drug user. It's just
so it's kind of just sad and disturbing, and in
some cases like that, especially when there's cases of neglect
and a history of drug use, that could actually get
your child taken away from you if your child tests positive.
But let me tell you this interesting. So cocaine's a
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drug that gets out of your system pretty fast. So
they say, like if Britney Spears was legitimately doing coke
that night, if she would have just not breastfed and
dumped her milk for twenty four hours, she would have
been okay again to breastfeed the kid. That's what they
say that you should wait like twenty four hours. It's
a fast drug. That's why a lot of people could
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do it that are getting drug tested, because if you
have a couple of days off, you could do it
and it's out of your system fast. So let me
tell you about this one case though, a woman who
was breastfeeding her one weak old daughter reported using a
dab of cocaine on her lower gum and nursing her
infant with no effect. So there was no effect on
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the infant that the mom could see, and it didn't
affect the sleep pattern at all of the infant. So
then she thought the next week she was gonna one
up it and snort a bunch of lines of cocaine
over a four hour period. And during this time she
breastfed five different times. So three hours after the mom
had first done the cocaine, she noticed that her infant
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became marketably irritable, had dilated pupils, began vomiting and having diarrhea,
and the baby became so irritable that they took They
finally went to the emergency room with the baby, and
on examination they said that the infant had tremors, was irritable,
very easily startled after minimal stimulation, had a high pitch cry,
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hyperactive reflexes, hypertension, and the infant remained this way for
twelve hours after the cocaine exposure, and it started easing
up after twenty four hours, and seventy two hours later
there was still increase in high blood pressure. This makes
me sick. It's so sad. Right, babies can display symptoms
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of cocaine withdrawal if they're if the others using while breastfeeding,
so it's it's serious. And like, just to his defense,
I don't know what's true because I don't live their lives,
but like if she's been saying this whole time, we
broke up because he couldn't handle fame, and he was
just like, no, actually we broke up because you did
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coke and you were trying to feed it to my baby.
Like I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I'm sorry, no, And.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I'm not defending her actions. I'm just saying, like, with
everything they've gone through over the last twenty years, I
don't think it's right for the kids to have even
more damning information about her. Like I see it as
him exploiting an extremely mentally ill person.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, I mean that's that definitely could be said. And
he's I believe he even said something about her being
mentally ill.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
But and her actions are indefensible because she's a mentally
ill pert, you know what I'm trying to say, Like
she's not a regular person.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, really, there's just so there's
just so many details to her specific case, but there's
a lot of different situations that he is citing proving
that she was kind of putting the kids in dangerous situations. Yeah,
and I mean I feel like that's obvious, like ignoring
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their allergies, feeding a child shellfish that had an allergy,
one time a son was hospitalized because he got a
hold of pills, and then other like a little bit
weird things like keeping the kid in diaper a little
bit longer than they should have been, even after well
after the kid was potty trained, telling the kid when
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he was ten years old that he had to still
take baths with the mom.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Like it was like, it's all inappropriate, obviously.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Like if this is true, it seems, which it very
well could just be some kind of weird Freudian thing
or something that she's still trying to hold onto her
childhood and she's trying to make this son not grow
up and hold on to his childhood. But but like
you could see these different examples of why a person
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was like like they didn't even let her have visitation
of those kids. They I mean, she if the thing
is is she's Britney Spears, so everybody's like, no Brittany.
Stand up for Brittany. But like if she was like
some crackhead on the street around here, you'd be like
that lady sucks. She's like negligent to her kids, and
like she deserves to lose her kids, you know what
(24:33):
I mean, Like, well, this is what I'm getting, the
same behaviors.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I feel like what I was saying earlier is going
to come across like I'm defending what she did, and
if these things are true, I'm absolutely not and I
think they're disgusting things. But like she's not there, and
that's the point I'm trying to get it.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
One conversation that's serious that we I guess that we
just have to have as a society is if if
everyone can attribute them can attribute their behaviors to and
being an asshole to mental illness, then like, who is
(25:13):
really responsible for anything? And does anybody ever do any wrong?
Because you can always you can always just be like, well,
just all these videos that I've been seeing online of
these different narcissistic personalities sort of burden out blah blah,
all these things right, autism and as an adult add
autism of all this stuff neurodivergent, all these words. It's
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just like you're literally giving every single person an excuse
to just suck at life.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
No, because I think there's a fine line between people
that can function day to day and they have problems,
and I think there's people like her that, like, I
don't even think she can drive or do anything. I
don't think she's a functional person like that, So she could.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Dance in over your bichanium knife.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Think about somebody with schizophrenia, they're totally out of their mind.
Are they in the category she's something dynagic?
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah? No, I'm just using that as an example.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Thinkause somebody was schizophrenia, Are they in the same category
as somebody that's, you know, going to work every day
and being sane, but they just are a bad persian
or they just are fucking narcissists, you know they're not.
Narcissism is in personality disorder, and it could narcissists can
function in society and their day to day life worre schizophrenic.
So that's where you draw the line, if they could
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function in society or not. I feel like she's on
the level of having like mental delusion and not fully
being present.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Well, I don't know. I don't know about any of
that shit. I don't know enough about it.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I'm just like, I just I'm just saying that's my
perspective from what I hear in Hollywood about her, from videos,
I observe of her behavior, everything we've seen in the press.
I obviously don't know her personally, but.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I mean, I listen, I'm not like an anti Britney person.
I feel I do feel terrible for her, and I
think if she was, if she was a guy, we
would be having a totally different conversation. It's just like
she lived, she's she's blew up so much as a
sixteen year old child, and she's been under the microscope
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this whole entire time, so every single time. I can't imagine,
just think, thinking back on my life of different bad
periods I went through, I can't like it was hard
enough to go through in the privacy of my own home,
let alone being in the public like that. I can't
imagine what just that level of fame does to a person.
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And you could see it makes most of them kind
of weird, honestly.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Well, I kind of compare her to Judy Garland in
a way. Because you know, they had similar pads and
the sense of Judy Garland got so famous as a
teenager for being a Wizard of Oz, and then all
of a sudden, you know, there's all this demand for
her and the studio and her agents and everybody around her,
like I don't give a shit if you're sick, take
this pill, take this pill, take this pill. And then
all of a sudden, you have a lifelong drug addict
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and her brain is fried all at the hands of
other people that are making money off of her.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
They're puppets. Yeah, I know, it's it's terrible. And she
especially with her too, it was like, you know, if
you compare someone like her to to Taylor Swift, it
was like Taylor Swift, which gets on my nerves. So
I can't believe I'm saying this, but she she kind
of evolved to what she is on her own in
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a way. It seems like she wanted to do the music.
I mean, obviously she had people helping her along the
way and stuff, but Britney spears, she seems like she's
she was more of a performer and they were just
like like she didn't make her own music. They were
just like this is who you're gonna be, this is
the look you're gonna have, this is the song you're
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gonna sing, and you're just gonna get up there and
do it. Like, Yes, she's she's a performer, I think.
And it's just it's they and they made their money
off of her for this short period, but I just
think it permanently damaged the rest of her life. And
it's very sad for a mom to not have raised
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her children and to still not have a great relationship
with them, if any relationship at all. It's just really
terrible to see.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I mean, this is gonna be my week of book recommendations,
especially for tomorrow's episode. But like I also think people
if they want a similar inside look with a person
that wasn't quite affected, I think people should read I'm
Glad my Mom Died by Jeanette McCurdy because it gives
a good example from the child's perspective of parents that
are forcing this job on their child and how it
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could affect their life so deeply.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Like I'm into the Weeds a ton on Britney Spears
and this whole conservatorship and stuff. But I would I
would say that the biggest person to blame in this
situation is probably like her parents. It's oh, of course,
but didn't jam I forget because I didn't. I just
recall this now, just scrolling through that Jamie Lynn had
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said something negative about Brittany in the news this week
as well.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Jamie Lynn wrote a book, you know, like everybody in
her life's writing books like oh she was the worst,
blah blah blah, Like Okay, well you guys would have
anything if it wasn't for her. So like that's just
kind of where I'm coming at, Like, I understand Kevin
Federlines had an extremely difficult time. I'm not saying what
happened in was easy and dealing with somebody like that's
not easy, but I don't think you should exploit it either.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
All right, let's talk about this next case of an
extreme bring your child to work day.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
So, a brain surgeon in Australia allegedly allowed her twelve
year old daughter to drill a hole in a patient's
skull during an emergency surgery.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Like, I don't even know what to say about this,
but it is interesting because I don't know how it
works in Australia and I don't know why the kid.
There was the kid there for well, it does seem
like maybe the mom got called in to do this
emergency surgery, as that would happen, and then the kid
tagged along.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
That wasn't clarified. But this happened in January of twenty
twenty four. So they're saying a farm worker was flown
to the hospital after a tree branch fell on his head,
So they said the kid was there. She reportedly had
an interest in medicine, so the bomb encouraged her to
get into scrubs and come into operating room with them,
and that's when the incident happened.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So I don't necessarily have a problem with the kid
being there because, like I was just saying, like in
our country, we do bring your kid to work day,
and the kids always they'll say they want to go
to work with Gabe and we're just like, you can't.
You can't go to work with daddy, Like what are
you going to do if he has to leave on
the fire truck day? So you always wonder what to
(31:53):
do with kids if you have important jobs. And I
mean I used to bring you to work a lot,
but there is there is I mean, you would come
to work when you were definitely that age and be
around blood borne pathogens and stuff. I mean, it probably
wasn't a great idea, honestly. The liability of that.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Well, you weren't working with live patients, so it's a
little different. But you wouldn't just be like, go grab
a scalpel blade and cut this placenta open like you
would show stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I would never No, I would never put you in
any kind of situation like that. But I mean the
worst thing I had you do was run slides back
to the pathologists, probably right like.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I mean, later, I think I helped sometimes with making
like frozens, but not even really. I was like, yay,
you would just like make the chalk for us or whatever.
And that's when I was an official intern. I wasn't
just there. I was actually an intern, and.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
You weren't doing the actual specimens. You were just making
like the base with the frozen stuff for yeah, exactly.
But yeah, I mean, I think the way that it
went down is even more unusual because it seems as
if the mom left the room to take a phone
call and there was another like a more junior surgeon
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in the room, and the kid did it and it
wasn't like the mom was holding it and the kid
was just kind of holding it too. At the same time,
it was like the kid legitimately was drilling into someone's skull.
And I'm assuming they were making burholes or something like
that to allow evacuation of a clot or swelling. But
(33:30):
what I guess what's scary about that. I've never worked
on a skull from that perspective, But I don't know
how the tools are made. If they're made in a
certain way that the drill bit can't go into the
brain tissue, because that would just be absolutely devastating. So
(33:51):
I'm sure there's some kind of a way to there's
certain tools or tips or something to prevent something like
that from happening. But what, like, why is a lawsuit
coming forth because it seems as if the guy didn't
have any complications and he was fine.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I don't think there's a lawsuit. I think that they
were criminally charged.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
So the patient really is like, how did this come
to light? Like somebody eventually said something about it.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
So this is where it's kind of confusing, and there's
conflicting reports because they're like, Okay, so the senior surgeons
and the junior surgeons were all fired because they were
in the room and let it happen, basically, and the
mother is saying, quote, my biggest mistake was letting her
go to the operating table. So in some capacity, she's
admitting she let her in the room, but then she's
denying that they let the kid hold the drill. But
(34:44):
then the junior surgeon is saying he was holding it
the entire time, and she just kind of helped or
had her hands on it too. And then another person
in the room says, yeah, there was or two sets
of hands on it. But didn't the mom go around
bragging to people that, oh, my daughter did her first
droll hole, yeah, something like that. So I don't like
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something happened, Yeah, I don't. I hope to god she
wasn't dumb enough to post something like that online. But
are she clearly isn't making great decisions as it is.
I would say in the room, everybody was either fine
with it or they weren't going to challenge this woman
if she was a senior surgeon, right, because we see
a lot of that too, where other people working in
the room are not going to challenge the higher up.
(35:30):
But she did go around bragging to all her other
colleagues about it, So one of those people might have
been like, this is a major red flag and then
an investigation popped up and there it went, you know, yeah,
and now they're on trials.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I mean, it's just probably it's just probably not a
good idea on so many levels to put to bring
your kid to certain jobs, just because that's also just
a liability of again the child being exposed to bone
dust and just things that they really shouldn't they're not
(36:07):
prepared to handle. And let's say, for example, the guy
coated on the table and they had and like the
guy was dying in front of this little kid, Like
they don't need to see that shit either, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
No, And I guess if they're found guilty, this charge
could be punishable by up to a year in prison.
So was it worth losing your job and going to
jail just we need to like brag about your kid.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
We need to make a list of like doctors who
who sabotaged their own careers over dumb shit. Literally this
is so stupid, Like no, seriously, it's it's like becoming
a theme on this show. This episode is brought to
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Okay, fake baby.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
This story has been all over TikTok. I just was
I've been seeing it everywhere basically, and then a couple
of you sent it to me, so I was like,
you know what, I don't know if I should believe
it or not. I have to wait until, like some
type of news article comes out, And sure enough one
did pretty quickly, and I was excited to break it down.
This was the other story I was saying, reminding me
(38:34):
of the episode with doctor Leslie Dobson.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Okay, all right, so let me break it down.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
In Scotland, this woman named Kia Cousins allegedly faked a
pregnancy by wearing a fake bump and claim she gave
birth earlier this month, only for her family to find
out the baby was one of those weird reborn dolls.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
We've had a couple stories about these reborn dolls on
the show, and they're all weird. Remember the one lady
that like breastfed them. Yes, they are so weird. I
don't really understand. I mean, I guess they say that
they're creative for people that might grieving mothers, grieving mothers
and stuff. I just I don't really, I don't really
(39:14):
understand the point. And I think there's a certain kind
of weirdness if you have one of these things and
they're really expensive.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I'm kind of questioning the intelligence level of everybody involved
in this story because I've been seeing some footage and
it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
So wait, there's actual footage of what this woman looked
like with her fake pregnancy work. Yeah, and it's and
you're like, it's so obvious.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
I saw a clip from her baby shower and immediately
she's wearing a super tight dress and immediately when she
turned around, I was like, you could see the straps
from the faked So.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
One of her friends did say, I knew it was
fake all along. She's been a liar her whole life,
but I didn't want to be the one to come
out to say it because everyone would have thought that
I was the jerk. And it's true, Like if if
she went up there and said that you look like
cause who does that?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
So like you making the accusation because you look like horrible.
It's really scary that someone would go to such depths
to carry on a light, especially.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Like you can carry. You know, the people that like
fake have in cancer. Yeah, you could tell everybody you
have cancer and then you could get treatment and then
you could say, oh, the chemotherapy worked and I no
longer have cancer, and you could collect a bunch of money,
And like, I guess there's a possibility that nobody would
ever figure it out because with cancer, it doesn't always
(40:37):
result in death. There's not always an end result, right
or they vary. With pregnancy, it always ends in a baby.
So how are you going to fake something that is alive?
You know what I mean that?
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Well, this is why I'm questioning intelligence to people. But
hold up, so let me go back to the lights
she took first. So she's wearing the freak the fake belly,
which we talked about in that other story with doctor Leslie. Also,
she posted all these scans. She had videos of the
baby kicking, which I assume we're either made via AI
or she just pulled others people wearing neutral clothing. And
(41:15):
then she even provided doctor updates claiming that the baby
had a heart defect. So then what I'm seeing on
TikTok what happens? So this is I guess this is
all I'll good for. But like this in particular is
the biggest rip flag. She said she was having a
fight with the baby's father, so she decided.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
To give birth alone.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I'm sorry, but like, no matter how big of a
fight I'm getting with my husband or anybody I know
that's having a baby, somebody's gonna come to the hospital
and see you forgiving birth. You're not just going to
be alone there for what are you in the hospital
for two to three days normally?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yeah, a forgiving birth? Well it could be short if
you have a like on complicated vaginal birth.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
But so then she's sending the baby, pictures of the
baby to family members, and then she's showing the baby
to family members and they said they started getting suspicious
because the baby was cold and wasn't making any movement
or wasn't making any noises.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
How do people live? So this is question can you
imagine experiencing this in real life? Like, think about this
for a second, Like, it's just so outrageous that someone
was presenting a doll as real and also assuming she
had a shower and everything, Like, why does she want
all these gifts for a baby that doesn't even exist
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that she doesn't need them for. It's just so weird.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
She's clearly a pathological liar and clearly on the verge
of mental illness because she's.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
Not on any verds. There's no verch. She's a full
on crazy perd exactly.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
So then I guess everybody started getting suspicious about it.
And then her mom busted in her house and found
doll in her bedroom, and that's when she admitted it.
So then after that she texted the child's dad and
said the baby died. I have a theory happens in
people's lives.
Speaker 2 (43:14):
I have a theory the Reborn company is going out
to people and having them say to them, listen, we're
gonna pay you a ton of money to make up
the most outrageous story with these babies in order to
get publicity for it. It's the only thing that makes sense.
Like they went to somebody before and was like, okay,
you just go online and say that, you know, we'll
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give you two thousand dollars, and you go online and
say you and you go online and yeah, allegedly you
go online and say that you stick your boob in
this fake doll's mouth, and it's gonna go viral and
our name Reborn is going to be all over the place.
Then this time it's like, you know what that Okay,
we've seen a diminished in sales. Let's let's give another
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person a couple thousand dollars to make up this outrageous story. Like,
I just can't believe that this is this stuff is
happening in real life.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
So there's all these other videos popping up, which I
don't know if they're AI or they're really her, but
it's allegedly her addressing it, and she's she just keeps going, yeah,
I'm sorry for what I did. You know what.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
The sad obviously no remorse. The saddest part of life
right now is that from now until the day that
we die, will constantly be saying, I don't know if
this is real or AI. Yeah, like so scary, So like,
what's the point of life like that you don't know
what's real and what's fake. It's just including a baby,
I suppose. And that's why I.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Wanted to point out that this story is primarily circulating
on TikTok, but now real news outlets are covering it.
But I do have this inner feeling at the same
time that the whole thing is fake because it has
no outrageous I can't believe it.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
It has to be. I hope it is. I hope
for for humanity, for everything. Well, we talked about I mean,
this is a little bit different, but the case that
we have with joe Jaqualone last week about a woman
who I mean, she was really pregnant and she really
had a miscarriage, but she gave the dead feet us
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to her ex in a cooler to get back at him.
I mean, listen, like, women fake pregnancies. This has been
going on since the beginning of time. Well yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
I want to say too, like to your point that
you made earlier, there are people in the comments on
these videos saying, who cares she got famous off of it?
What is she so?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah? But like is that what the goal of life
is is to become famous?
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Yeah? But like you're famous for faking a pregnancy. Like,
it's not like you got famous for doing anything good,
good or stupid like dancing. You're the girl that faked pregnancy.
This story is just absolutely so bizarre. And like when
I see pictures that she's allegedly sending of this baby
to her family members, I'm like, are these people also
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not smart that they can't tell in the photos it's
obviously not a real baby.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
Well, it's It's just the same as we talk about
in lots of different cases it like, what was that
one girl's name? Lake and Snelling? Yeah, remember the one
recently the cheerleader that had her baby and killed it.
Every it seems like everyone around her was like, she's
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definitely pregnant, but like nobody wanted to say anything because
it to be the rare chance that you were wrong
about something that was very obvious in front of your
face was too scary for them to bring up. And
it's the same in this case, Like to accuse a
woman that's pregnant of not being pregnant is like it's
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kind of like crossing a really big line that if
you're wrong, that's that's not cool.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Do you think there's a possibility that she really got
pregnant and had a miscarriage? Andrews just like, I'll just
get pregnant again really.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Quick, or yeah, like or she or she had the
miscarriage and she just felt she liked the attention she
was getting for me and just didn't tell anybody. And
there's lots of possibilities.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
But I mean, she also could have just totally made
it up in nowhere. But what I just don't understand.
I understand did she also not have sex with the dude?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
The entire time, because like, if she was naked, it
would have been obvious. I didn't even think about that. Like,
he never saw her naked the whole time she was pregnant.
And I understand women get away with this for a
long time because they could just be like, oh, I
go to the ultratounds by myself whatever. But like once
the hospital was oh I gave birth by myself, I
was like, okay, either your family really sucks or like,
(47:46):
there's something fishy here. And then people are holding this
doll and saying, oh, it's cold because it's not alive. See,
that's how she ruined it. She should have put one
of those handwarmer things in the blanket. She clearly really
gave it away. They wouldn't have noticed when the kid
was four years old and still rubber. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
All right, let's wrap up with this funeral home story. So,
an LA County funeral home is being sued by a
family after they presented the wrong body in a casket
during a memorial and the distress caused another loved one
to have a heart attack at the funeral.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
I swear we talked about something like this before. I
swear we did I just can't. I can't remember where
and I couldn't find it, But I feel like that
we've talked about this before, but he likely had what
we call a broken heart disease. Remember we've talked about
this before that that this can happen under severe emotional distress.
(48:45):
It's called Takasubo cardiomyopathy. And the reason it's called that
is because the heart makes a very unusual shape that
causes the it to squeeze in a very unus usual way.
It weakens the chambers and it looks like what's called
a taco subo pot, which is a Japanese fishing pot
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that catches an octopus. So that's why it got that name.
But it happens under severe emotional distress that they're you know,
your fight or flight hormones get released really fast, and
they could be toxic on the heart muscle as well
as it could cause coronary artery spasms. So it's not
typical of what you would see with a heart attack,
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for example, but it could also induce something if this
guy had an underlying heart condition as well. And I
mean we've talked about definitely on the show multiple times
of people going into a funeral viewing and it not
being their family member, And I could imagine that that's
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just a severe emotional distress of even though you've already
lost them and they're dead, just being like, well, who
is this and where's my loved one? That's time period
when they're miss and you don't know where they're at
is equally as devastating to a person.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Well think about this too, because it took the funeral
home over an hour to locate his body, and then
they were saying they were seriously downplaying it to being
a scheduling error that they made. And then even though
this funeral costs twenty thousand dollars, they were like, we'll
give you two hundred dollars refoot. So I think, in
general so insulting. It's so upsetting when it's not the
(50:28):
right person. And then on top of that, you're having
these people, you know, we're talking about this last week
when you like go to the doctor and they tell
you all this money that you weren't expecting and then
your blood pressure is so high you feel like you're
gonna have a stroke. And I could understand that, So
it's like not only distressing, you're there for a horrible reason.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
You're grieving, and then this company's being a total asshole
and just blowing you off. Well good, I hope their
negative press is. I would like if I was reading
about a specific funeral home doing something like that, and
especially it justn't It wasn't like, oh, he's in the
back and we switched the bodies. They brought them into
another room and they were like, yeah, that's still not him.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
You know.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
It was like there was a way too long of
a period of like, where is our nephew and our
family member right now? Like, no, no's and he was
the guy who died was my age, right, he was
like in his mid forties.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yeah. Important to note, however, that the uncle that had
the heart attack did survive.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah he did, thank God. But what I'm saying though,
is like the guy who was in the casket, or
supposed to be in the casket was a younger person.
So yeah, that is upsetting too. It's not like it
was ninety eight year old grandpa that like had a
good life and we all expected him to die. It
was probably an unexpected death to begin with.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Oh, no, one hundred percent. All right, let's move on
to your comments and questions. Instagram has been worse than ever.
So if you guys have a pressing question, I would
encourage you to email it to Stories that Mother Knows Death,
along with any comments or contributions to stories you've heard whatever.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
You want to say.
Speaker 1 (52:09):
All right, First, have you ever seen a high I
don't even know if I hide it to formalhed it
to the formal. This listener is saying, my mother had
one that they thought was her fifth child. I believe
she had false labor at five months. When they found it,
my dad was relieved that he didn't have to get
a bigger house.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
So, yeah, it's I have seen it, and it's it's
kind of cool from a scientific perspective to see it.
Of course, in a situation where a person thinks that
they're having a baby, it's definitely not cool. But what
happens is that it's an abnormal fertilized egg that implants
into the uterus and causes a mass to form instead
(52:50):
of either a normal pregnancy or the placenta growing correctly.
So there's two different kinds that you could have. So
you could have a compl mole, which is when a
fertilized egg contains two copies of the chromosome from the
father only and not the mother, so no baby grows,
and instead of a placenta, it just is like a
(53:14):
sack of grapes that it looks like like a bunch
of cysts. A partial one is a fertilized egg that
has a normal set of chromosomes from the mother and
two sets from the father, so there's sixty nine chromosomes
instead of forty six. And those cases are even more
sad because in those cases a fetus can grow, but
the placenta is just basically a cluster of grapes and
(53:38):
it doesn't function as a normal placenta, and therefore the
fetus can't grow because it doesn't have a normal placenta.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
All right, Two, Who does the cleanup on a road
after a bad wreck? Some of the pics you post
are really messy, and how is the cleanup done?
Speaker 2 (53:54):
You know what else? I want to mention about the
molar pregnancy. If you have a mole pregnancy, you're at
an increased for us to have another one. And in
rare cases, you could get something called an invasive male
where that tissue that's in there can turn to cancer
and you could get like a pregnancy related cancer that's
(54:15):
called choreo carconoma. It's like a really really really rare
but I've seen that as well. Okay, onto the next
you're saying, what happens? All right again?
Speaker 1 (54:26):
What does the cleanup on a road?
Speaker 2 (54:29):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (54:29):
Who does the cleanup on a road after a bad wreck?
Some of the picture posts are really messy, and how
is the cleanup done?
Speaker 2 (54:35):
Don't I don't know at all really, I mean, the
Medical Examiner's office would collect all of the body parts.
So if someone gets hit by a truck and they're
smeared across the road, they're going to pick up as
many of the body parts as possible, put them in
a body bag, bring them to the medical Examiner's office.
I don't know. I mean, I know, my husband's a firefighter.
(54:57):
There's been cases where he's been called to wipe to
like sprague blood off the street with the hosts. I
don't know if that's standard. I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (55:07):
I would think for maybe highways and stuff, there's a
designated maintenance crew that would have to I.
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Mean, there's port there's definitely people. I mean, you've seen
I just saw a deer that I mean, they could
be the size of a human smeared across the road.
There's people that do roadkill, for sure, but I don't
know if they would be the same people that would
clean up after something like that. It's just a little
bit of a different situation because you know, the roads
(55:35):
normally closed down for hours, and they're investigating and trying
to find out what happened and look for skid marks
and this and that where the body was hit, where
it flew to, body parts flown all over the place
and that. So I really just I really have no idea,
but I would think after an accident like that, especially
(55:56):
investigating it for hours.
Speaker 1 (55:57):
And you have blood and and tissue that's dried on
the road, the only way to really get that up
would be with a higher power host. Well, you know,
like around here anyway, we have that company Serve Pro too,
and they deal with demolition and cleanups and crime scene cleanup.
So maybe they would get a company like that, because
(56:18):
it's not like I mean, obviously, animals are getting killed
in the road often, but I think I see their
blood left there often. But I think if it was
a human, they're going to get a special company to
come in because it's a little more disturbing for anybody knows.
Let us know, let us know, all right. This last
email is from our listener named Joe. I travel a
(56:38):
lot with my sons for appointments since we live in
a rural area, like two and a half to three
and a half hours one way. My main go to
podcast on these drives is MKD. Usually my sons, who
are thirteen, eight and five, are on game things. We're tablets,
so I assume they never really pay attention much. I'm
a licensed vettech and we breed horses, so science death
(56:58):
are treated very normally and openly, as my kids have
seen births in death's firsthands since they were babies. One
particular trip, my husband went with me and our two youngest.
I had paused the podcast to talk to him and
then got distracted playing on my phone and forgot to unpause.
My eight year old from the back seat said, Mom,
are you going to play Mother Knows Death? It's surprised me,
(57:19):
She said, do you like MKD? He smiled and said, yeah,
they're my favorite. They talk about science and interesting things.
I turned the podcast back on and noticed he put
his tablet down and was listening He's ADHD and can
be pretty restless and difficult, so to have him set
down a tablet is a positive change. I also should
note my thirteen year old is also a fan. My
(57:41):
five year old enjoys the talking and usually has a
question or two, but doesn't understand a lot of it.
I think you've gained a long time listener and enthusiast.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
Thanks for all you do. That's so cute. It is
so cute. Hi, guys, did she say that their names
and it or no?
Speaker 1 (57:57):
But she'll have to play this for them because we
love to hear that. It's super cool. And to think
we have the power to have a child putting a
tablets incredible. If only I could get that power for
my own child. I'm like the whole ADHD thing. I'm like, girl,
I feel you with.
Speaker 2 (58:14):
My one kid. Jesus, oh my god, the kids can't
sit down.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
Somebody at our live show what asked if the kids
thought we were cool or something, or if they thought
I was cool, And I was like, no, they think
we're both losers.
Speaker 2 (58:26):
They put nothing to.
Speaker 1 (58:28):
Do with anything we say, which is so funny.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah, that was it. It is funny because they'll when
we like Gabe and I bring the kids to school
almost every single day that he's not at work or
something and pick them up at the same time, you know,
and we'll be pulling up to the school to drop
them off, and the kids will be like, you know
when you pull up and they're all standing out front
of the door, they're like, pull up, pull up, we
(58:51):
don't want to get out right here. And we're like,
why you don't want to be seen with us? And
then they get out of the car and me and
gave us look at each other and we're like, they
don't think that we're cool at all, like compare to
other people, Like they just don't even care like about
us at all. They just think that we're total dorks.
Like what could you do to be cool to a kid?
I don't know, Just just not be their parent.
Speaker 1 (59:14):
That's it, Like there'sact exactly, or don't be their older
sister who they should think is the coolest person in
the world. It's that they just make fun of me
every day. You are an easy target. I have an
easy target. Okay, guys, well, thank you very much. We
are going to have a very special episode for you
tomorrow with one Joseph Scott Morgan. We cannot wait for
(59:35):
you to hear it.
Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yes, you guys are it's really good. I love him
so much. He's just hit him and his wife Kim,
they're just the best and I love it. Yeah, I
just love them so much. And you guys are love
on his family. And he's got some little tidbits that
are very interesting. As you It's gonna be so great,
So please head over to Apple or Spotify, leave us
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Mother Knows Death. As a reminder, my training is as
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