BTS with Vianney

We had our friend Vianney stay for the podcast and talk about animals "doing it"

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
What would you talk about on your on your podcast
firm Elvis represents fifteen minute morning show where this isn't doing.

(00:25):
She's convinced that you're trying to like I have not
kill him off. Just happened. Okay, So Elvis and I
had a conversation about fifteen minutes ago, and he was
wondering how how quickly he could get out because he
has a ton of stuff to do today, and I'm like, okay,
well we could do the podcast without you. So I
nearly reminded him that, by the way, that's not what happened.

(00:49):
He's dropping on us. That's not what happened. You know,
you're a big liar, and you're trying to kill me
on my favorite quote I just was though. He said, quote, Nate,
why do you keep trying to kill me off? I'm
not trying to kill you off. I'm trying to give
you your time back. If you want to join the podcast,
you were more than welcome to. But then Alas plays
this cat and mouse game because Elvis was ready to

(01:10):
tee up the podcast and started up and then all
of a sudden and saying all right, let's go, and
then Elvis disappears it's like psych alright, I'm back, I'm back. Hi. Hi.
Well we still have Vienna. I know. That's why I
wanted to stay. Is the most fascinating interview we've had
in questions. I have a question that I wasn't able
to ask during the on air portion. Is it true

(01:32):
that you can track a male rhinoceros because his dinger
drags between his legs? Where did you? Where did you?
You can Vienna? You gotta talk into the moke, come
close to the microphone. You can do that with elephants,
but not with elephants. Dinger drags the ground. So that's

(01:53):
how you can. You can track him that way, you can?
You can? Yeah, that's how Now FROGI wants to come
back as an elephant. Be a lot of shaping there. Yeah,
I drag it. Elephants, elephants pumps. It's like five letters,

(02:14):
it's like one gallen. Oh my, that's love. Oh my god.
I never wanted to be an elephant so bad in
my life. I've never wanted a data elephant so bad. Person.
That's a fun Oh my god, that's a fun fact. Fun.
Isn't it bigger than a person? Isn't five ms bigger?

(02:37):
Than a person. He said five liters something else. Penis
was five meters long. When he when he gets to
his place and he like, how do you know this
na from a distance experience being out in the bush happen. Yes,

(03:00):
I've seen it happen. Oh, it's kind of struggle to
for the male to penetrate into the female. I sometimes
take up up to like five minutes as he's trying
to look for the for the opening to penetrate. But
it's kind of love. It's kind of a very good

(03:21):
thing towards if you're likely to see it, and she's
patient enough to just be like, okay, I keep looking.
Oh my god. You know, like the bulls are bigger
compared to the females. So the female elephants will go
to istrus when they're about maybe from like eight nine
years old, so they're kind of like, you know, not

(03:43):
as big as the bulls. So the matriach that is
the leading female in that particular group mostly she's one
of the oldest female in their and well experienced female.
So sometimes she will sort of calm the female by
putting the trunk hot trunk to the back of that female,

(04:04):
you know, to coma to coma so that the mail
can penetrate effort. Wow, Danielle, could you imagine me showing
up with you and Sheldon, like you think the fun
things that we never learned in school. I feel like
I'm so late to the party. You just learned a

(04:27):
bull as a male cow. But I mean, come on.
But I also now realized that elephants have threesomes, but
it's kind of not a three way. The other ones
they're just to provide like emotional support, like just give
him time, give him time, he's going to get there.
Oh my god. Anybody else have some not safe for
air questions? Although I feel like we could let me

(04:49):
interrupt that. I think everything we've talked about so far
we'll be safe. It's reproduction on the sty Hello, I
have a question, Yes, Brudi, does does a r know
ever get attracted to like a hippo by mistake? You know? Okay?
Animals are attracted to the same speech of their kind. Yeah, so,

(05:10):
uh what if it's dark? Same because you know, animals
use uh a sense of smell that is well developed
and they can smell their kind and track them. And
animals also have sort of like competition in terms of

(05:32):
feeding grounds, especially for those animals that have territories, so
they have to defend that against their own kind. That's
why it's very confusing to people. Like sometimes you will
see like lions, you'll see will the beasts will see
uh you know, zebras or like in the same area,
and you know, the line really doesn't really pay that

(05:54):
much attention into them. Uh not all the time that
lions need to eat or to kill. They only do
that when they need to. Uh. Sometimes the babies or
the youngsters they can try to kill for fun as
their learning, but in mostly cases they will have to
hunt when they need Wow. Yeah, we saw a little

(06:18):
younger lion trying to do a kill and it wasn't
very successful, and so it took a while and we're like,
can you hurry up because there was a little suffering
going Speaking of that, that's how they learned, though. You know,
do you ever see anything I know you're not supposed
to intervene with things, but have you ever seen anything

(06:40):
that you thought, you know, what I might need to
step in here? Yeah, so there have been a few things. Uh.
So we have critical endangered species of animals and one
of them is the rhinos. So then and go to Creta.
We have rhinos in there and I think twenty when

(07:01):
things are opening up with yeah, there are lions hunting
baby rhino. Guides had to intervene to save the rhino
so that, you know, we keep them growing quick. Isn't
one of them almost extinct? Like the white rhino rhino?
Isn't that we had the white Northern rhino that is
almost the extinct because the last male died a few

(07:24):
years back and only two females that are remaining as
the mom and daughta, and no one to breed, so
that is that's it for them. By the way, you
know what he mentioned the girl and Girl crater. It's
so beautiful. Go take do a google of and girl
starts with an end. The second letter is a G

(07:45):
and uh. It's beautiful because before you go down into
the crater, you can stay from on the edge, you
can see for miles across this beautiful creator. It looks
you think of the Garden of Eden. I mean, it's
so beautiful and colorful, so pretty, it's it's unbelievable. So
how how do you intervene them? If you see that's happening?

(08:05):
What do you do we pushed them with the vehicles
we tried to cover, So we staying between the prey
and the animal that has been hunted and the animal
that's hunting never matters with you guys, know, do they
tend to be afraid of the vehicles? Uh? No, not
not because what happened is with lots of amount of

(08:29):
trainings that we go through to big guides, we have
to learn boundaries and you have to learn how to
approach these animals. So since we're approaching them and we
don't do anything bad to them, they get used to
the vehicles. They can't smell the diesel that we're using,
the gas that we're using, and that smel stays with them.

(08:52):
When they're young, like lion cabs or leopard cabs, for
the first few weeks or months, they'll try to be
a little bit shide, but since mom is not moving,
then they land that. So we call that a larning behavior.
So they have what you call an inbound behavior, and
they also have learning behavior that they learn through their moms.
Do you paint the trucks to look like animals or

(09:13):
is that only at a touristy places? Do you drive
a deeper no? That's why would you dress it up
like pray Vienna have a question. Yes, So when it
comes to bears, some of them you have to like
don't move, some of them you back away, and some

(09:33):
of them you lay down so they don't attack you.
Depending on what type of bear it is. Are there
animals on your safari is dangerous animals that it's best
to lay down buffalos, but they won't run over you know,
they won't cap buffalos and their horns won't reach all
their way in the ground. So if you come across
the cape buffalo that is charging towards you, the best

(09:54):
defenses to lie down flat. Have you we had to
do any of these things? And I have you ever
had to like do some of these things that you're
talking about to save your own life? Ah? No, I
always try not to cross the line. Wow. I learned
about this yesterday about playing dead for gorillas. Though they

(10:15):
say that you're supposed to never looked them in the eye,
right and then you're supposed to just sit there. You're
supposed to play dead. So as as you asked some
of the animals, why are they telling you to back
up or to stop? So? Animal eyes are not like ours,
So we have more cones than roads, and they have
more roads than cones into the routine of the eyes.

(10:37):
So that enables us to see colors and then see
black and white, which is very good for them to
see at night. That's why we don't really have a
very good night vision. So animals don't really are not
able to judge distance between one object to the next object.
So the light into their eyes has to bounce like

(10:59):
three times for them to be able to judge that distance.
So when they tell you first, do not look at
them into their eyes especial for the primates, that is
an intimidating behavior. You're trying to challenge that abe. That's
why with the gorillas and chimpanzees, if they're looking you
into their eyes, you don't have to do that. You
have to look aside. So if you look straight back

(11:22):
into their eyes, that is a challenge, and that gorilla
or team will try to challenge you because you're trying
to challenge them with your teeth, like you shouldn't show
them your teeth as well, yes, yeah, well anything like
a T shirt with prints of leopards or big cats.
Because they can see these primates which are the same

(11:42):
family them. Yeah, they're able to see colors. Uh. When
when we do working safaris, we work on a single
file because the animal sees this one person in front
doesn't see the rest of the work back. So when
we have to back up, we have to back up
on the same same strategy, single file, back up slowly

(12:05):
when you approach this animal, same reason as I said,
they cannot really determine the distance that quick So you
have to go zig zag if you want to approach
an animal, so this animal will still feel like you're
still in the same position or the same area while
you have moved as zigzag and that way, you have
also to watch the wind, see where the wind is going.

(12:26):
To have to be against the wind so that the
animal does not smell you. You can get I've been
so very close to elephants, have been so close to
lions on foot only to follow the required measures and
to know how to do it. Have you ever had
like any jerks on safari that really want you to

(12:46):
push the limits and they just don't act the right way. Yes,
you know, being humans, we all have different behaviors. Get
people like uh, they feel they can do anything just
because they paid for you know, for them to be there,

(13:08):
so you know, it's it's the duty of the guide
to talk to them slowly. Uh, it has been. It
has reached a point where I had to stood up
and say, no, we cannot do that because for me,
your safety comes first. If anything happens to you, it's
going to be a very big issue. It's going to

(13:29):
involve the two countries, it's going to involve lots of
people in between. So to avoid that. At one point
I had to say, we cannot really do this because
this is not safe and I don't want to risk
your life, and please do not do this. And some
most of them will understand when it comes to a

(13:51):
life threatening situation. Wow, I remember that only prey ever
runs away from something, which would be my first instinct
if anything was approaching, would be to run away from it.
So always listen to your guide because we are trained. Uh,

(14:14):
We're also trained to become. It doesn't matter how big
of the situation is. The first thing you have to
do is to become. The second thing is to assess
the situation, and the third is to act. So if
anything happens, I would have to hold my ground because
only food runs I've come across leopard that was sleeping,

(14:38):
and this leopard did not know our for our presence,
and suddenly she woke up and you were there with guests,
and you know she tried to defend. The first thing
they will do. They'll try to come over you, towards you,
so if you run, you're a prey. If you stop
and we have the signs, you raise up your hands
so you look bigger than that animal, that animal will stop.

(15:01):
Now I heard the number one was just to be
able to run faster than your guide does. Your guy
knows the area better than you. Uh. Like elephants. I
love elephants and I love playing with them. But those
who have been on, for those who have been on
so far with me, they understand my love for elephants.

(15:23):
So I love playing with them in a certain way
that I do not upset them, especially when they're doing
the mock charges. I can go very close and pack
the vehicle and have everyone quiet, and you know you
have the elephant comes into the vehicle, put their trunks,
smell but is inside, and sometimes even use the cart

(15:43):
to scrape to scratch a little bit. And you know,
you tell these people, hey, listen, this animal is very big.
I know you're scared of him, but it is okay.
He's just gonna come in inspect the vehicle, and as
long as you're not doing anything, not making too much
noises this animal, we inspect the vehicle and live. And
that has been one of the better good things that

(16:06):
most of my guests have enjoyed, is to be able
to be assured that they're safe, you know, and to
enjoy the sightings you know, I've had, Like when I
was with Elvis and Matt and Alex, we had this
massive mail lines just walk across the vehicle and he
stopped and looked at us, and you know, Mado sitting
in front, and I said to him, it's fine. So

(16:28):
this line stood up, looked at us. We're all okay
with didn't move, you know, and then he marked and
he went off with this business because we were we
were not you know, part of what he was looking at.
So you know, you know the show pretty well. So
hypothetical question, who would not be able to survive an
animal attack out of the show out of this room

(16:48):
right here? Thanks scary and scary defense. He rarely runs,
so he'd probably be got dinner field the most tasty
of all of us. Yes, we're almost at a time.
But I know, David Brody, you were trying to get

(17:08):
in a couple of times to ask you a question.
Thank you, Alvius. I had a follow up question about
the buffalo. Now, I know you're telling me to lay
down and the horns can't reach me, but does the
buffalo run towards me and then just stop and try
to hit me with the horns? I feel like it's
going to run over me. Yeah, So what happened is
it will run towards you. As soon as you go down,
you'll disappear from his view, so he's gonna stop and

(17:31):
try to look for you. He's gonna get your smeil.
It's gonna try to put the horns to get you,
but the houns won't reach the ground, so you won't
be able to really reach you. So as soon as
you disappear from his vision, you're okay. It's gonna smell you.
It's gonna try to do everything it can. Because these
are these animals, they cannot really do the stampede that

(17:52):
much unless they're in a big hut. That's when they
can like they're running or walking but if it's one animal,
they will try to use their horns says where the
uh power is, and it's gonna take like a few
minutes and it will give up and say like okay,
I'm done. But then I have had a heart attack.

(18:13):
Or I'll meet the one buffalo they had horn extensions
put in and he'll be able to read stick of
the buffalo owns are carved inwards and not outside, so
they're carved inwards, so that way is not really able
to hook you with the horns lying them. Oh, okay,

(18:35):
last question, Well, I don't know if it's the last question,
but I have another question. Which animal is the most
dangerous to the humans? Hippos? Okay, hippos there don't really
eat meat, They only eat grass. So the only the
only like knock you over and move on with their business.

(19:01):
Is there a good animal to take a selfie with
from the people have done that a lot with. Yes,
they have done a lot with lions and the wilderbiest migration.
But you have to be inside the car, so ours
I've got pop up roofs where you can stand and

(19:21):
take a selfie, but not on the ground. That's the thing.
If you're ever on safari. What they do is they
have a what is a sun downer when it's time
to have a cocktail with with the with the sunset
and you actually get off. You get off the vehicle
and they set up a table and you can have
a drink. You feel really weird being on the ground
because you always you feel safe up in the vehicle.

(19:44):
So once you go on the ground, you're hoping Vienny
parked you in a place that has you and you
hungry animals. Vienny, we love you. Thank you so much
for spending time with us. Again. If you go to
Elvis Duran's show's Instagram page and you click on the
elephant picture, you can link over to Vienna, and I
suggest you do it. There's a lot of great stuff there.

(20:05):
We love Vienna. Have a beautiful trip back to Africa.
Thank you so much, guys, thank you so much. The
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