February 6, 2024 • 23 mins
Gio Benitez ABC News Special, The Fatal Dive to Titanic, premieres Thursday, February 8th at 8/7C on ABC.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Fly from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, well, well what do we have here? A serious
journalist has joined us in the room. Oh come on now,
Geo Benitez of course from ABC News and also Good
Morning America and god, you're like a superstar over there now.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Oh suck. He was nervous about being with us, Are
you kidding?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
But you know why.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I grew up with your voices. I grew up with
your voices. So it's so exciting to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So you're like a little kid listening to us, like
in your bed before you.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Go to school.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I was, I was driving.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I remember driving to like high school, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Right, So okay, just to let you know, so Geo,
you've you've seen him for years and he's remember when
there was a storm coming in. They would fly him
to the storm and make him stand out in front
of the ocean and blow away.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
God that yeah. Uh.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I love covering storms, I really do. And it's actually
the reason why I got into this business, because I thought, Okay,
here's an opportunity to show people why this is so important.
What does that sound?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm now we go live to the store. I'm a
geo Benita, it's our house.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Did you ever get hit with anything?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
No, thankfully, no no. But I think the one that
you talked about on the radio ones was that I
was holding onto a rope. I was like on a balcony,
holding onto a rope. At one point, I.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Think I said a text to you. We had a
we had phone numbers for some reason, for a mutual friend.
Why are you doing this? Why are you standing on
a balcony in front of a tornado a hurricane.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I had cows flying behind mels.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Maybe what we have so much to talk about? Did
you ever like.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Say to them guys, I'm kind of thinking this isn't safe,
and they were.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Like, no, we're good, go out there. No, you know what.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
They never put me in situations that I don't feel safe.
I always say, you know what, I think this is
going to tell the story better, and so I'm gonna
put myself in a safe situation. I grew up with hurricane,
so I knew exactly how to cover them home.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Okay, Look, Geo's special is coming out Thursday night on
ABC is called The Fatal Dive to the Titanic. You
know exactly what the story is. We're going to get
to that in a minute. Another interesting story, you and
your husband Tommy, who is here. Hi Tommy to Dario. Yeah,
a member of our family. Hi. You guys were vacationing
in Maui. Yes, in Hawaii, they were there. Yeah, yeah,
(02:22):
when everything went to hell in Leahina and you were there,
so your vacation turned into a work assignment.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I mean, what was crazy about it is that the
fires were happening as we were having dinner, and we
didn't know. Nobody on the island knew what was going on.
The mayor at the time was basically saying, the road
to Lahina is open, you can go. Everything's you know,
because there was concern about the winds that were there,
and so we were supposed to have dinner in Lihina
that night. The restaurant texted Tommy and said, you know what,
(02:53):
the winds are too intense. We're just going to send
people home. Nothing about the fires at that point, and
so we just decided to stay on, you know, the
other side of the island. And we have a picture
where you could see the glow and it was just
a picture of you know, he was looking at the
view and it was beautiful and so he took a picture. Now,
when we look at that picture, you see the glow
in the background line.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And so I know, I spoke with Tommy while you
guys were there, and there was it was an emotionally
draining thing to be so close to devastation and seeing
people losing their homes and being stranded, and so you
guys you felt it.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Yeah, we talked to a lot of people. There was
one man who lost his wife and didn't even know
if she was still alive, and we ended up being
able to connect them, and he used Geo's phone to
leave our voicemail and then she ended up calling Geo
back a couple hours later or maybe the next day.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yep, it was.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
There was a lot of high emotions and so then.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
We went and found him and you know, we connected them.
But that's what that's what was so incredible about this
was to see the spirit of a Loha play out
in real time. It was not just a catchphrase. We
were watching it happen. People were coming together to help
each other in this moment of crisis.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
The thing that fascinates me, and I'm hoping a lot
of people listening, is the fact that we turn on
the news. We turn on ABC News, which is ABC News,
and we see all of you, all of the globe,
reporting back emotional, hitting stories and fun fact story, science stories,
stories of travel and this and that, and it's just
(04:23):
what a job you have. You must just love it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
You must I love it. I never take it for
granted because people count on us and they turn on
that show every single morning, and that means the world
to us. And so I think it's so incredible that
we're able to get into homes every single day and
people are willing to spend time with us every single day,
two hours of their time every morning. That that's intimate time, right,
(04:49):
You're getting ready for school, you're getting ready for work,
all those things are happening. So I never take that
for granted because it's it's this moment where we can
come together. And sometimes they are stories of joy and
some sometimes stories of tragedy, but that's life.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And we'll just know that that GEO is kicking ass
over it A good morning, America, But don't watch him
listen to us.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Right now. So why aren't you at work right now?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Today?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Is actually my day off? Oh right, yeah, because I
anchored GM A Saturday and Sunday. So there you go.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
See that's the difference with radio and TV. There's a
big difference. There's this credible factor in I know, in TV,
and we're like just sitting around playing with each.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Other for anything, take anything from us.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Now, the word fundle is used a lot in this room.
I don't know why. Let's talk about the special now.
I most assume that, uh, if you are such a
well loved journalist at ABC News and they come to
you and say, hey, here's a two hour special prime
time Thursday night on ABC do it? Would you do it?
(05:54):
That's gotta make you just okay.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I mean, come on, come on, it's it's so special.
And team behind this is ABC News Studios, which produces
these amazing documentaries. So when you watch this, this this
is a documentary that you're gonna be watching and it
takes you through everything that was happening when this submarine
went missing. And I remember you were asking me, you know,
when did I get there? Yeah, and it was right away,
(06:18):
right away when this happened. I was trying to find
a way to get to Nova Scotia And that's how
it happened.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Were they still in recovery mode at that point.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I mean at that point, we didn't well, we didn't
even know what had happened. Right at this point, I
think it was about eight hours that they had been missing,
that they lost communication, So we at this point didn't
know what was happening. We only knew that there was
this ninety six hour countdown for the oxygen that they
would have available on that submarine.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And we around the world were watching just kind of
holding the breath.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Well, and at this point we didn't even know who
was on board, right, So I was getting to Nova
Scotia and like literally as I'm getting there, that's when
we find out the CEO of the company is on board.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
So Thursday night at eight seven cent on ABC, it's
two hours with Gio Benitez and the fatal dive to
the Titanic.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Questions, Yes, okay, so after the fact, we all know,
oh my gosh, this was a crazy mission. I cannot
believe they used the equipment they used and they did
the things they did. But you documenting this leading up
to it, did they know how risky this was going
to be?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, there were definitely some whistleblowers at the time who
were saying the construction of this submarine they didn't believe
was safe. Yeah, and because they were using this carbon
fiber composite, and that's something that you use a lot
on airplanes, for example. But the pressure that's happening in
the air is a lot different than what's happening underwater.
(07:40):
In fact, I think you have actually a little clip
from the from the show here where we actually talk
about the pressure underwater because James Cameron, he knew about this.
He was looking at this and he was one of
the voices at the time before this was saying, guys,
this submarine, this is not this is not a you know,
he went down to the Titanic so many times in
(08:00):
his own Yeah. And then you have Michael Harris, who's
another explorer. So let's listen.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Here's what the ahead to say.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You know, it's fine to move fast and break things
when you're writing code in Silicon Valley, but you just
don't want the things to break when you're inside them
two and a half miles underwater.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
The ocean is unforgiving.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
The entire time you're in this, every second of every minute,
the North Atlantic wants to kill you.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It was so strange and scary frightening. Actually when they
were later after the implosion happened, they were giving us
what it would probably feel like to be in that situation.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I god know.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And another thing about being so far underneath the surface
of the ocean two and a half miles okay, versus
two and a half miles up into space. We know space,
we don't really understand anything about two and a half miles.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Under the ocean, which is wild.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I know Gaudi and I are like, wow, this is
just fascinating.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And part of the problem is the pressure. It's unbelievable,
the pressure that you're under when you're underwater. It's much easier,
believe it or not, to go into space.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Try hosting your own radio show every day.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I want to know how emotionally invested you get. So
I'm thinking you go out there.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
A little too much to right.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
So you're meeting family members of the people probably that
are in there, You're interviewing people that are involved in
the whole situation. It has to play on your emotions
and you have to personally get involved in all this.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
You know, how does that affect you?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I am the kind of reporter who quite literally feels
what these folks are are going.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Through and good.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I don't know if it's good. I just can't change
my you know, it's like my chemistry, my biology. I
just can't change it about me. And I feel that
for whatever reason, I always had other reporters to say, oh,
you know, disconnect, disconnect, and I'm like, well, I think
it's really important to be compassionate and be empathetic with
folks who are going through their dark days.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well, let's tell you write the story right.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And and that really is. I mean when we were
in Maui, I broke down on there when Robin asked
me a question about you know, how I was feeling there,
and I was the reason I broke down was because
I saw that the spirit of a loha play out.
And I think that we do this because of humanity, right,
We tell stories, you do what you do because of
humans are listening and so hopefully, hopefully.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Hopefully they were before you got here. No, but I
mean you you watch reporters, journalists who were overseas there
in the in the Middle East reporting from just awful
situations and or at a plane crash or an implosion
(10:43):
at the bottom of the ocean. I also think it's
like a doctor who is there a surgeon who every
once in a while is going to be surrounded by
death and things he can't fix with people who are
who were grieving, and he has to deal with the
grieving families, but he has to go home at the
end of the night and still try to have this
(11:04):
ounce of positivity and hope. Yeah, and so you know what, Tommy,
maybe you're the person to ask, does he bring it home?
Speaker 6 (11:12):
No, Geo does a really good job kind of leaving
work at work, And of course sometimes there's been moments
like Geo was the first reporter to cover the Pulse
night club shooting, and that was a very personal thing
for many reasons, you know. And I remember we were
face timing and you were reporting all day long and
we got on FaceTime and you just lost it and
broke down crying because you were speaking to so many
(11:33):
parents who lost their kids. Right, So you go through
what you go through, but then you do I think
you do a pretty good job coming home and trying
to live as normal of a life as possible. And
it's weird for me because I cover entertainment, so my
stuff is so fun and light and crazy and silly
and he covers really hard stuff someway, you know what he's.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Going through at work. When you come home, do you
find yourself walking on eggshells a little bit? And I
don't mean that in a negative way. You're like, I'm
gonna keep it light tonight. Yeah, he's had a rough.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Go sometimes I see a little anxiety kind of creeping in,
And of course, why wouldn't it look at what your
day was, So I try to, I don't know, make
a good meal, tell some jokes, keep it as light
as I can. I'm not I'm not gonna yell at
him for not doing the dishes on a day like that.
Let's say that.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Other days, yes, not that I clean up your mass,
not on those. This story in particular, though, by the way,
we're talking about the fatal dive to the Titanic, which
is of course two hours ABC News special uh this
Thursday night at eight seven Central and ABC. This story
just has so many layers. There's so many things going on.
(12:38):
You have human beings in this little cramped space who
probably maybe they didn't even know it was common, and
well do they know? Do they know that they were
about to They're about to meet their end?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So so that's one of the questions that we've actually
posed in this because he had this this and a
lot of people criticize this, but it was some sort
of like audible thing, like a warning system where you
start hearing some sort of crack and then you know
something's gonna happen, so you got to go back up.
But what a lot of these experts were saying at
the time was that, well, by the time you hear
(13:12):
a crack, it's too late. And that's what they believed
happened here because an implosion happens very, very very quickly.
Some people say milliseconds. I mean, that's how quickly this happened.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Thank god, any in.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
All of this when you got there, because you said
you got there before they even knew what had happened.
Did experts say, no, we know what happened, We're just
waiting for this.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
No. I mean a lot of people weren't trying to guess.
But I'll tell you what I had a Well, I
haven't actually revealed this publicly, but a few years before this,
this company came to us to try to get us
on board. Yeah, and so we had conversations with them.
We didn't even get to the safety part. But we
had conversations with them early on, and you know, they
(13:54):
a lot of the stories that you hear where they said, oh,
this is two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, but you know,
we'll lower the price to one fifty. That happened to
us where they said, hey.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Counted deep sea travel, No, thank you, exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, And so it's something that that didn't work out.
That conversation ever happened. And so because of that conversation
that we had that first night when I got there
and we're in Nova Scotia, I put my my head down.
I had a nightmare that night and I was sort
of like inside inside the submarine in this nightmare, and
(14:28):
then I was on the outside and I saw it implode.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And so I woke up the next morning. I texted
Tommy and I said, I think this is what happened.
And then we start hearing these things about like oh,
there's we're hearing banging sounds, and I'm like, it just
doesn't make sense. There's a lot of metal down there.
Of course you're gonna hear banging sounds. The Titanic is
down there. This is the same area and then we
find out that the the you know, the the US
(14:52):
military ended up hearing an implosion at the same time
that it went missing.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, I remember that story. Yeah. Hey, So here's the
question here, a million dollar question. Who in this room,
if offered today, would fly to outer space? Would you go?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I mean, Tommy has different opinions about this, and.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Would you go?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I would consider it. I would consider it.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Yeah, what about you, Tommy? I think it depends on
which company, which company. I think that's very important. Yes, yes,
And I keep joking. I'm like, if ABC is sending you,
I'm going up because of something like we need to
be together on that ride because it's freaky.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Would you fly up there on a Boeing Gondy and
I we want to be the first on board. We're
ready to go, ready to go. Absolutely, I'm staying here.
How far would you go?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Would you go on like the three hour journey or
would you go on like two weeks?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I would go all the way to your AANUS.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I love to do a space station walk. That would
be awesome, as long as they're not using a PlayStation controller.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Look, I think the moon is a nice safe stop,
safe stop. I think you know that's what they're trying
to do. We can stop, you get a snack, stopover
it is. Yeah, imagine a.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Little bodaga on the moon exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Stop a cat because all's have cats. I just you know,
that's the thing. You know, these people when they got
on board this, this craft, this is whatever you call it,
I mean, they knew that there was a chance.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
They had to sign something right.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, And and it actually does mention the possibility of
death several times over?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Does that really? You know, I don't care if my
family member gets crushed to death in this thing, even
though they signed something. I'm going after them. I mean,
are people going after this company or are they totally in
the in the in the clear.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, I think that there's some talk about that. Look,
you don't expect something like this to happen, and certainly
these folks. But but you know what was crazy about
it is there was a father and son right on
board right there. These are like very very rich people,
and they really were excited about wanting to go onto this.
And there was another father and son who were supposed
(16:59):
to be on that they gave up their seats because
they said, you know what, we don't think this is safe.
We just don't like this. Wow, they're the ones who
ended up giving those seats to the other Father and
sol Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, it's just what was the most shocking part to
you about all of this?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I think how many warnings were ignored, almost like the
Titanic itself. Wow, right, when you think about the Titanic itself,
so many warnings were just ignored. And this is what
happened here too. There were so many warnings and still
nobody doing.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Wait didn't they go down before? Like, weren't there a
couple of other ones that went down?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Well, and this and this particular submersible did go down,
So then.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
What's the difference between what happened the first and second
time to this time?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Like what went you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Well, and that's what they think is, you know, were
their additional cracks? Where was this getting weaker each time
it was going further and further down, each time it
was taking another dive. And also how it got out
to the ocean. There was not and there was not
enough room on the actual ship to get this out there,
so it had to be dragged through the Atlantic to
(18:04):
get there. So what was happening as it was being
dragged through the Atlantic. A lot of experts say, well, listen,
that's just not the way you transport a submersible that's
going two and a half miles, you know, underwater.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Now, so are there other expeditions like this that now
they're looking at again, I mean, are they looking at
deeper regulation?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Well, that's there. There is no regulatory body for this,
so that's another question. So just getting in the getting
the pond and go, and that's and that's a problem.
This was very much an experimental, you know, submersible. What
James Cameron uses is a very different device. It is
not for commercial travel, you know, down.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Would you go down with James Cameron? With James Cameron,
I would.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Again, Tommy has like James Cameron, though.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I trust James. I like it. And if you're gonna
go go with James Cameron, you don't want to because
he'll get the headline.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
That's right, the afterthought that one but.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Agency journalist GEO will be right under there. This is Martin.
I didn't mean that. What's the motivation to go down
to the bottom of the ocean in a craft like
this little thing? You doesn't even have windows, does it?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I mean, there was one little window. People are obsessed
with the Titanic. It's an unbelievable story when you think
about it. And there's something so eerie about the ships
sitting at the bottom of the sea. And by the way,
it's gonna degrade and it's not gonna be there in
some time. So really, these folks were trying to get
their last view of the Titanic before it disappears.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
If you get a chance. I think it's still in
New York. The Titanic experience. The stories of these people
that were actually on the ship are incredible, and just
learning about their backgrounds because they're real people, like they're
not just you know, yeah, the ship went down, whatever.
They each have their own story and it's fascinating to
learn about it.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I mean, the family behind Macy's yeah right, yeah, and
they were there and they're captured in the Titanic movie
is sort of you know, holding on to each other
on the bed as the ship went down. These stories
are unbelievable, and the stories of survivors, yep.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well I am totally into it. Are you gonna watch Godi?
I am Danielle.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And of course is there a little look into the
lives of the people who actually were on that submersible,
because that's fascinated.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yes. Absolutely, so learn about them, We really learn about them,
and we're we're gonna go We're gonna dive deep, especially
the CEO Stockton Rush. We're going to learn a lot
about what was happening in the years before this.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Well, there you go. Geo Benitez is bringing it to
us Thursday night. It's a two hour, two hour ABC
News special. It's premierre on Thursday, February eighth, which is
this Thursday at eight seven Central on ABC.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
And stream the next day on Hulu.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Oh, there you go. Your public has taught you well.
And of course, Tommy Dariel, thank you for coming in.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
Oh, happy to be here, Happy to share Geo with
my family.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Tommy taking credit for all of it. Yeah, absolute, You're welcome.
Are you giving your He does he even producer's credit
on them?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I should?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I should? I do have a very important question. I
mean this, this is a very serious topic we're talking about,
and when talking about the fatal dive to the Titanic,
can you ask Gio a question. I'm almost always amazed
seeing reporters in war torn areas and their hair is
always perfect. Do they do their own hair or do
you have a team of hair and makeup people.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
So I noticed it also says like Ian Pannell, who's
one of our Ford correspondents. Ian does his own hair.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
By the way, you know, by the way, you don't
have to answer this questions.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Kind of funny. But Ian's hair is amazing. So I've
actually texted him and said, how is your hair that
perfect in the middle of the wars that Yeah, No,
he's an incredible journalist.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Oh no, I was just holding up a sign.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Oh oh oh yeah, our food is cold. I'll tell
you what happened. Since Tommy and Geo are health nuts,
they're always taking very good care of their bodies and
working out, and they go on vacation to take their
shirts off for pictures videos by way, and so our
breakfast arrived when you arrived, and I'm like, get just
food out here. I don't want them to see how
we eat.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, I was told I was banished with my case
off to the corner.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
We can't eat this, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Need the cook I guess here comes Miami man.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It was banished to the corner. But you know what
I saw that gave me some hope. They have a
thing of cookies in the green Wait.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Geo looked at the stack of cookies on the table
before you walk in here and said, just just take it.
And I said, you want to cookie goes, take the
whole stack.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Just take it.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
There's six cookies.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
So take cookies in our in our room. Because you know,
but these guys, we asked Tommy, like, what is your
like your your cheat? What? Oh I ate a cupcake
last year?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
I stole the bag of cookies. But how often do
you actually eat cookies?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
How often?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Like a cookie a week?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, you know, a little fun.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You're a liar? You e one per quarter? Like, oh,
it's June. I think I got this cookie time.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
What he's not saying is that we split the cookies.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I'm they opened the bag and they just cooking. I
know what's going on, guys.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
And I got my big man boobs over here, ready
for eat my case of you.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Let's go get our case of People.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Are texting in. They're mad because they want us to
repeat the info because they want to watch the fatal
dive to that Titanic is Thursday night, eight seventh Central
on ABC. If you go to ABC dot com, I'm
sure you'll see some nice, pretty graphics.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I'll turn it on.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
G O Tommy, thank you guys for coming in today.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Thank you so much. You guys, thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
We'll see you Thursday night.
Fly from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, well, well what do we have here? A serious
journalist has joined us in the room. Oh come on now,
Geo Benitez of course from ABC News and also Good
Morning America and god, you're like a superstar over there now.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Oh suck. He was nervous about being with us, Are
you kidding?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
But you know why.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I grew up with your voices. I grew up with
your voices. So it's so exciting to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
So you're like a little kid listening to us, like
in your bed before you.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Go to school.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I was, I was driving.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I remember driving to like high school, right yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Right, So okay, just to let you know, so Geo,
you've you've seen him for years and he's remember when
there was a storm coming in. They would fly him
to the storm and make him stand out in front
of the ocean and blow away.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
God that yeah. Uh.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I love covering storms, I really do. And it's actually
the reason why I got into this business, because I thought, Okay,
here's an opportunity to show people why this is so important.
What does that sound?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm now we go live to the store. I'm a
geo Benita, it's our house.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Did you ever get hit with anything?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
No, thankfully, no no. But I think the one that
you talked about on the radio ones was that I
was holding onto a rope. I was like on a balcony,
holding onto a rope. At one point, I.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Think I said a text to you. We had a
we had phone numbers for some reason, for a mutual friend.
Why are you doing this? Why are you standing on
a balcony in front of a tornado a hurricane.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I had cows flying behind mels.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Maybe what we have so much to talk about? Did
you ever like.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Say to them guys, I'm kind of thinking this isn't safe,
and they were.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Like, no, we're good, go out there. No, you know what.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
They never put me in situations that I don't feel safe.
I always say, you know what, I think this is
going to tell the story better, and so I'm gonna
put myself in a safe situation. I grew up with hurricane,
so I knew exactly how to cover them home.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Okay, Look, Geo's special is coming out Thursday night on
ABC is called The Fatal Dive to the Titanic. You
know exactly what the story is. We're going to get
to that in a minute. Another interesting story, you and
your husband Tommy, who is here. Hi Tommy to Dario. Yeah,
a member of our family. Hi. You guys were vacationing
in Maui. Yes, in Hawaii, they were there. Yeah, yeah,
(02:22):
when everything went to hell in Leahina and you were there,
so your vacation turned into a work assignment.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I mean, what was crazy about it is that the
fires were happening as we were having dinner, and we
didn't know. Nobody on the island knew what was going on.
The mayor at the time was basically saying, the road
to Lahina is open, you can go. Everything's you know,
because there was concern about the winds that were there,
and so we were supposed to have dinner in Lihina
that night. The restaurant texted Tommy and said, you know what,
(02:53):
the winds are too intense. We're just going to send
people home. Nothing about the fires at that point, and
so we just decided to stay on, you know, the
other side of the island. And we have a picture
where you could see the glow and it was just
a picture of you know, he was looking at the
view and it was beautiful and so he took a picture. Now,
when we look at that picture, you see the glow
in the background line.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
And so I know, I spoke with Tommy while you
guys were there, and there was it was an emotionally
draining thing to be so close to devastation and seeing
people losing their homes and being stranded, and so you
guys you felt it.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
Yeah, we talked to a lot of people. There was
one man who lost his wife and didn't even know
if she was still alive, and we ended up being
able to connect them, and he used Geo's phone to
leave our voicemail and then she ended up calling Geo
back a couple hours later or maybe the next day.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yep, it was.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
There was a lot of high emotions and so then.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
We went and found him and you know, we connected them.
But that's what that's what was so incredible about this
was to see the spirit of a Loha play out
in real time. It was not just a catchphrase. We
were watching it happen. People were coming together to help
each other in this moment of crisis.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
The thing that fascinates me, and I'm hoping a lot
of people listening, is the fact that we turn on
the news. We turn on ABC News, which is ABC News,
and we see all of you, all of the globe,
reporting back emotional, hitting stories and fun fact story, science stories,
stories of travel and this and that, and it's just
(04:23):
what a job you have. You must just love it.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
You must I love it. I never take it for
granted because people count on us and they turn on
that show every single morning, and that means the world
to us. And so I think it's so incredible that
we're able to get into homes every single day and
people are willing to spend time with us every single day,
two hours of their time every morning. That that's intimate time, right,
(04:49):
You're getting ready for school, you're getting ready for work,
all those things are happening. So I never take that
for granted because it's it's this moment where we can
come together. And sometimes they are stories of joy and
some sometimes stories of tragedy, but that's life.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And we'll just know that that GEO is kicking ass
over it A good morning, America, But don't watch him
listen to us.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Right now. So why aren't you at work right now?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Today?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Is actually my day off? Oh right, yeah, because I
anchored GM A Saturday and Sunday. So there you go.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
See that's the difference with radio and TV. There's a
big difference. There's this credible factor in I know, in TV,
and we're like just sitting around playing with each.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Other for anything, take anything from us.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Now, the word fundle is used a lot in this room.
I don't know why. Let's talk about the special now.
I most assume that, uh, if you are such a
well loved journalist at ABC News and they come to
you and say, hey, here's a two hour special prime
time Thursday night on ABC do it? Would you do it?
(05:54):
That's gotta make you just okay.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I mean, come on, come on, it's it's so special.
And team behind this is ABC News Studios, which produces
these amazing documentaries. So when you watch this, this this
is a documentary that you're gonna be watching and it
takes you through everything that was happening when this submarine
went missing. And I remember you were asking me, you know,
when did I get there? Yeah, and it was right away,
(06:18):
right away when this happened. I was trying to find
a way to get to Nova Scotia And that's how
it happened.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Were they still in recovery mode at that point.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I mean at that point, we didn't well, we didn't
even know what had happened. Right at this point, I
think it was about eight hours that they had been missing,
that they lost communication, So we at this point didn't
know what was happening. We only knew that there was
this ninety six hour countdown for the oxygen that they
would have available on that submarine.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And we around the world were watching just kind of
holding the breath.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
Well, and at this point we didn't even know who
was on board, right, So I was getting to Nova
Scotia and like literally as I'm getting there, that's when
we find out the CEO of the company is on board.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
So Thursday night at eight seven cent on ABC, it's
two hours with Gio Benitez and the fatal dive to
the Titanic.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Questions, Yes, okay, so after the fact, we all know,
oh my gosh, this was a crazy mission. I cannot
believe they used the equipment they used and they did
the things they did. But you documenting this leading up
to it, did they know how risky this was going
to be?
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Well, there were definitely some whistleblowers at the time who
were saying the construction of this submarine they didn't believe
was safe. Yeah, and because they were using this carbon
fiber composite, and that's something that you use a lot
on airplanes, for example. But the pressure that's happening in
the air is a lot different than what's happening underwater.
(07:40):
In fact, I think you have actually a little clip
from the from the show here where we actually talk
about the pressure underwater because James Cameron, he knew about this.
He was looking at this and he was one of
the voices at the time before this was saying, guys,
this submarine, this is not this is not a you know,
he went down to the Titanic so many times in
(08:00):
his own Yeah. And then you have Michael Harris, who's
another explorer. So let's listen.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Here's what the ahead to say.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You know, it's fine to move fast and break things
when you're writing code in Silicon Valley, but you just
don't want the things to break when you're inside them
two and a half miles underwater.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
The ocean is unforgiving.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
The entire time you're in this, every second of every minute,
the North Atlantic wants to kill you.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
It was so strange and scary frightening. Actually when they
were later after the implosion happened, they were giving us
what it would probably feel like to be in that situation.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I god know.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And another thing about being so far underneath the surface
of the ocean two and a half miles okay, versus
two and a half miles up into space. We know space,
we don't really understand anything about two and a half miles.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Under the ocean, which is wild.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I know Gaudi and I are like, wow, this is
just fascinating.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And part of the problem is the pressure. It's unbelievable,
the pressure that you're under when you're underwater. It's much easier,
believe it or not, to go into space.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Try hosting your own radio show every day.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I want to know how emotionally invested you get. So
I'm thinking you go out there.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
A little too much to right.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
So you're meeting family members of the people probably that
are in there, You're interviewing people that are involved in
the whole situation. It has to play on your emotions
and you have to personally get involved in all this.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
You know, how does that affect you?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I am the kind of reporter who quite literally feels
what these folks are are going.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Through and good.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I don't know if it's good. I just can't change
my you know, it's like my chemistry, my biology. I
just can't change it about me. And I feel that
for whatever reason, I always had other reporters to say, oh,
you know, disconnect, disconnect, and I'm like, well, I think
it's really important to be compassionate and be empathetic with
folks who are going through their dark days.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well, let's tell you write the story right.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And and that really is. I mean when we were
in Maui, I broke down on there when Robin asked
me a question about you know, how I was feeling there,
and I was the reason I broke down was because
I saw that the spirit of a loha play out.
And I think that we do this because of humanity, right,
We tell stories, you do what you do because of
humans are listening and so hopefully, hopefully.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Hopefully they were before you got here. No, but I
mean you you watch reporters, journalists who were overseas there
in the in the Middle East reporting from just awful
situations and or at a plane crash or an implosion
(10:43):
at the bottom of the ocean. I also think it's
like a doctor who is there a surgeon who every
once in a while is going to be surrounded by
death and things he can't fix with people who are
who were grieving, and he has to deal with the
grieving families, but he has to go home at the
end of the night and still try to have this
(11:04):
ounce of positivity and hope. Yeah, and so you know what, Tommy,
maybe you're the person to ask, does he bring it home?
Speaker 6 (11:12):
No, Geo does a really good job kind of leaving
work at work, And of course sometimes there's been moments
like Geo was the first reporter to cover the Pulse
night club shooting, and that was a very personal thing
for many reasons, you know. And I remember we were
face timing and you were reporting all day long and
we got on FaceTime and you just lost it and
broke down crying because you were speaking to so many
(11:33):
parents who lost their kids. Right, So you go through
what you go through, but then you do I think
you do a pretty good job coming home and trying
to live as normal of a life as possible. And
it's weird for me because I cover entertainment, so my
stuff is so fun and light and crazy and silly
and he covers really hard stuff someway, you know what he's.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Going through at work. When you come home, do you
find yourself walking on eggshells a little bit? And I
don't mean that in a negative way. You're like, I'm
gonna keep it light tonight. Yeah, he's had a rough.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Go sometimes I see a little anxiety kind of creeping in,
And of course, why wouldn't it look at what your
day was, So I try to, I don't know, make
a good meal, tell some jokes, keep it as light
as I can. I'm not I'm not gonna yell at
him for not doing the dishes on a day like that.
Let's say that.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Other days, yes, not that I clean up your mass,
not on those. This story in particular, though, by the way,
we're talking about the fatal dive to the Titanic, which
is of course two hours ABC News special uh this
Thursday night at eight seven Central and ABC. This story
just has so many layers. There's so many things going on.
(12:38):
You have human beings in this little cramped space who
probably maybe they didn't even know it was common, and
well do they know? Do they know that they were
about to They're about to meet their end?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So so that's one of the questions that we've actually
posed in this because he had this this and a
lot of people criticize this, but it was some sort
of like audible thing, like a warning system where you
start hearing some sort of crack and then you know
something's gonna happen, so you got to go back up.
But what a lot of these experts were saying at
the time was that, well, by the time you hear
(13:12):
a crack, it's too late. And that's what they believed
happened here because an implosion happens very, very very quickly.
Some people say milliseconds. I mean, that's how quickly this happened.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Thank god, any in.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
All of this when you got there, because you said
you got there before they even knew what had happened.
Did experts say, no, we know what happened, We're just
waiting for this.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
No. I mean a lot of people weren't trying to guess.
But I'll tell you what I had a Well, I
haven't actually revealed this publicly, but a few years before this,
this company came to us to try to get us
on board. Yeah, and so we had conversations with them.
We didn't even get to the safety part. But we
had conversations with them early on, and you know, they
(13:54):
a lot of the stories that you hear where they said, oh,
this is two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, but you know,
we'll lower the price to one fifty. That happened to
us where they said, hey.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Counted deep sea travel, No, thank you, exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Yeah, And so it's something that that didn't work out.
That conversation ever happened. And so because of that conversation
that we had that first night when I got there
and we're in Nova Scotia, I put my my head down.
I had a nightmare that night and I was sort
of like inside inside the submarine in this nightmare, and
(14:28):
then I was on the outside and I saw it implode.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And so I woke up the next morning. I texted
Tommy and I said, I think this is what happened.
And then we start hearing these things about like oh,
there's we're hearing banging sounds, and I'm like, it just
doesn't make sense. There's a lot of metal down there.
Of course you're gonna hear banging sounds. The Titanic is
down there. This is the same area and then we
find out that the the you know, the the US
(14:52):
military ended up hearing an implosion at the same time
that it went missing.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah, I remember that story. Yeah. Hey, So here's the
question here, a million dollar question. Who in this room,
if offered today, would fly to outer space? Would you go?
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I mean, Tommy has different opinions about this, and.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Would you go?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I would consider it. I would consider it.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Yeah, what about you, Tommy? I think it depends on
which company, which company. I think that's very important. Yes, yes,
And I keep joking. I'm like, if ABC is sending you,
I'm going up because of something like we need to
be together on that ride because it's freaky.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Would you fly up there on a Boeing Gondy and
I we want to be the first on board. We're
ready to go, ready to go. Absolutely, I'm staying here.
How far would you go?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Would you go on like the three hour journey or
would you go on like two weeks?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I would go all the way to your AANUS.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
I love to do a space station walk. That would
be awesome, as long as they're not using a PlayStation controller.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Look, I think the moon is a nice safe stop,
safe stop. I think you know that's what they're trying
to do. We can stop, you get a snack, stopover
it is. Yeah, imagine a.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Little bodaga on the moon exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Stop a cat because all's have cats. I just you know,
that's the thing. You know, these people when they got
on board this, this craft, this is whatever you call it,
I mean, they knew that there was a chance.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
They had to sign something right.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Yeah, And and it actually does mention the possibility of
death several times over?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Does that really? You know, I don't care if my
family member gets crushed to death in this thing, even
though they signed something. I'm going after them. I mean,
are people going after this company or are they totally in
the in the in the clear.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, I think that there's some talk about that. Look,
you don't expect something like this to happen, and certainly
these folks. But but you know what was crazy about
it is there was a father and son right on
board right there. These are like very very rich people,
and they really were excited about wanting to go onto this.
And there was another father and son who were supposed
(16:59):
to be on that they gave up their seats because
they said, you know what, we don't think this is safe.
We just don't like this. Wow, they're the ones who
ended up giving those seats to the other Father and
sol Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah, it's just what was the most shocking part to
you about all of this?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I think how many warnings were ignored, almost like the
Titanic itself. Wow, right, when you think about the Titanic itself,
so many warnings were just ignored. And this is what
happened here too. There were so many warnings and still
nobody doing.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
Wait didn't they go down before? Like, weren't there a
couple of other ones that went down?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Well, and this and this particular submersible did go down,
So then.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
What's the difference between what happened the first and second
time to this time?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Like what went you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Well, and that's what they think is, you know, were
their additional cracks? Where was this getting weaker each time
it was going further and further down, each time it
was taking another dive. And also how it got out
to the ocean. There was not and there was not
enough room on the actual ship to get this out there,
so it had to be dragged through the Atlantic to
(18:04):
get there. So what was happening as it was being
dragged through the Atlantic. A lot of experts say, well, listen,
that's just not the way you transport a submersible that's
going two and a half miles, you know, underwater.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Now, so are there other expeditions like this that now
they're looking at again, I mean, are they looking at
deeper regulation?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Well, that's there. There is no regulatory body for this,
so that's another question. So just getting in the getting
the pond and go, and that's and that's a problem.
This was very much an experimental, you know, submersible. What
James Cameron uses is a very different device. It is
not for commercial travel, you know, down.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Would you go down with James Cameron? With James Cameron,
I would.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Again, Tommy has like James Cameron, though.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I trust James. I like it. And if you're gonna
go go with James Cameron, you don't want to because
he'll get the headline.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
That's right, the afterthought that one but.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Agency journalist GEO will be right under there. This is Martin.
I didn't mean that. What's the motivation to go down
to the bottom of the ocean in a craft like
this little thing? You doesn't even have windows, does it?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I mean, there was one little window. People are obsessed
with the Titanic. It's an unbelievable story when you think
about it. And there's something so eerie about the ships
sitting at the bottom of the sea. And by the way,
it's gonna degrade and it's not gonna be there in
some time. So really, these folks were trying to get
their last view of the Titanic before it disappears.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
If you get a chance. I think it's still in
New York. The Titanic experience. The stories of these people
that were actually on the ship are incredible, and just
learning about their backgrounds because they're real people, like they're
not just you know, yeah, the ship went down, whatever.
They each have their own story and it's fascinating to
learn about it.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I mean, the family behind Macy's yeah right, yeah, and
they were there and they're captured in the Titanic movie
is sort of you know, holding on to each other
on the bed as the ship went down. These stories
are unbelievable, and the stories of survivors, yep.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well I am totally into it. Are you gonna watch Godi?
I am Danielle.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And of course is there a little look into the
lives of the people who actually were on that submersible,
because that's fascinated.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Yes. Absolutely, so learn about them, We really learn about them,
and we're we're gonna go We're gonna dive deep, especially
the CEO Stockton Rush. We're going to learn a lot
about what was happening in the years before this.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Well, there you go. Geo Benitez is bringing it to
us Thursday night. It's a two hour, two hour ABC
News special. It's premierre on Thursday, February eighth, which is
this Thursday at eight seven Central on ABC.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
And stream the next day on Hulu.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Oh, there you go. Your public has taught you well.
And of course, Tommy Dariel, thank you for coming in.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
Oh, happy to be here, Happy to share Geo with
my family.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Tommy taking credit for all of it. Yeah, absolute, You're welcome.
Are you giving your He does he even producer's credit
on them?
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I should?
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I should? I do have a very important question. I
mean this, this is a very serious topic we're talking about,
and when talking about the fatal dive to the Titanic,
can you ask Gio a question. I'm almost always amazed
seeing reporters in war torn areas and their hair is
always perfect. Do they do their own hair or do
you have a team of hair and makeup people.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
So I noticed it also says like Ian Pannell, who's
one of our Ford correspondents. Ian does his own hair.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
By the way, you know, by the way, you don't
have to answer this questions.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Kind of funny. But Ian's hair is amazing. So I've
actually texted him and said, how is your hair that
perfect in the middle of the wars that Yeah, No,
he's an incredible journalist.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Oh no, I was just holding up a sign.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Oh oh oh yeah, our food is cold. I'll tell
you what happened. Since Tommy and Geo are health nuts,
they're always taking very good care of their bodies and
working out, and they go on vacation to take their
shirts off for pictures videos by way, and so our
breakfast arrived when you arrived, and I'm like, get just
food out here. I don't want them to see how
we eat.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, I was told I was banished with my case
off to the corner.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
We can't eat this, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Need the cook I guess here comes Miami man.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It was banished to the corner. But you know what
I saw that gave me some hope. They have a
thing of cookies in the green Wait.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I'll tell you.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
Geo looked at the stack of cookies on the table
before you walk in here and said, just just take it.
And I said, you want to cookie goes, take the
whole stack.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Just take it.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
There's six cookies.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
So take cookies in our in our room. Because you know,
but these guys, we asked Tommy, like, what is your
like your your cheat? What? Oh I ate a cupcake
last year?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
I stole the bag of cookies. But how often do
you actually eat cookies?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
How often?
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Like a cookie a week?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, you know, a little fun.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
You're a liar? You e one per quarter? Like, oh,
it's June. I think I got this cookie time.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
What he's not saying is that we split the cookies.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
I'm they opened the bag and they just cooking. I
know what's going on, guys.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
And I got my big man boobs over here, ready
for eat my case of you.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Let's go get our case of People.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Are texting in. They're mad because they want us to
repeat the info because they want to watch the fatal
dive to that Titanic is Thursday night, eight seventh Central
on ABC. If you go to ABC dot com, I'm
sure you'll see some nice, pretty graphics.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
I'll turn it on.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
G O Tommy, thank you guys for coming in today.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Thank you so much. You guys, thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
We'll see you Thursday night.
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