November 15, 2024 • 23 mins
Gwen Stefani stops by the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge to talk about her new album, "Bouquet".
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
F Live from Them Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It is Gwen Stefani Friday. We love celebrating new music.
We're always looking for reasons to celebrate. How about a
new album from Gwen Stefani. Yes, the album is Bouquet
and she's in town here in New York City. She's
got lots going on. I have friends flying in from
the West Coast to be a part of something going on.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Something we weren't invited to. Hold on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We'll get to the bottom of this. Please welcome the
one and only Gwen Stefani. You deserve a standing, Oh
a standing, Come on in, Hi, you don't have.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
He smells amazing.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Shower A couple of warnings. First of all, you got
to stay close to the microphone.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Those headphones you can know how to work. Let's see.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Another thing, is I'm kidding like I'm literally I need
all the instructions in the world right now.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
This has been an early wake up call for.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well so far you're doing well, but it's only been
ten seconds. When you walk all guests walk past Danielle,
she sniffs.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, oh okay, you should have told me that earlier.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
But you smell amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Jason Derulo is the best smelling person I've ever ever
had come by me.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Oh really, you're out there. You smell beautiful. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
This is one of those things only a woman could
get away with, because if we had a dude sitting
in that seat, he was like, feel.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Aware, attorney's involved. Okay, So, as I said before you
came in, we all need reasons to celebrate. Having a
new album is pretty darn good reason to celebrate, is
I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It's been me right now, it's like the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Okay, I'm gonna try being right.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I mean, you don't know how long I've wanted this,
Like I had this like this like little voice inside me,
going make our record, you can do it, And I'm like,
I don't think I need to do that.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Why would I do that? Now? I have so many
songs like.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
This is a gross comparison, But the need to put
out an album is it like the pimple that needs popping?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
You know what I'm saying. They didn't feel like that.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It felt a little bit more like how it's really
hard to it's it's a little more spiritual than a
pimple pop. Okay, it feels like it feels like I
remember the first time I wrote a song and I
was like I look back and I'm like, oh, there's
there's wings back there. Like I didn't know I could fly,
you know what I'm saying. And I wrote this song
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like not nobody taught me, Like it just was. It
just came out of me. So it's like you find
your gift inside you, your purpose, and then when you
don't do that for a while and you just feel like,
I need to do it again because that makes me
feel like I feel it makes that feel I'm doing
something in the world good, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So I just needed to write music.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I felt like, you know, it's so important about what
you're saying, and everyone drive into work right now, coming
from a house to an office, to a school to
prop kids office, and that wonder, well, what's what's my calling,
what's my thing? What do I have that's already on
board that I have not discovered yet? You discovered that song,
you discovered.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Your Before that, I was literally like this floating like
you know, oh my god, I love Tony Like I'm like,
you know what I mean, like a girl that had
no nothing, like I wasn't going anywhere. I was just
just existing, didn't have big dreams, nothing, And once I
did it, it was like, oh my gosh, this is like, well,
first I found identity, you know, through music, you know,
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finding music like Madness and The Selector and all these
like underground SKA bands at the time back in the
day when I was like fifteen, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
What I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
But then it was like when the songwriting happened, it
was like, oh my gosh, cause you gotta I mean,
people don't really know this about me, but I was.
I'm dyslexic, so I have a really hard time in
school as a child, like trying to figure out I'm
just looking around and nothing. Everyone seems to be doing
something that I don't get, and I'm like, what what's
wrong with me?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
You know?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And so that And it's not like I didn't fit
in socially or anything like that, but it was more like,
I'm it was just harder for me. So I think
that being able to find music and have no rules,
no spelling, no grammar, just my heart and just trying
to express myself and then being able to do it,
and then those songs like they speak back to you,
(04:23):
like they they could because I feel like I receive
them there, I don't feel responsible for them. I pray
for them, they come if they're if, if they're meant to,
and then when I share them, it's like I'm like
this vessel. So that's that's why it's not like a pimple.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's gonna be very fulfilling as well.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But I just love the Going back to what I
was saying in a second ago is a lot of people,
include me, and a lot of us are still looking
for that yeah thing. I know in the past four years,
your your world has been it's been this whirlwind of
incredible things. You got married, I mean, you're you have
this new incredible life that that has that you you
(05:08):
were just open for. I think you have to be
open for it to happen. Any creativity that we have
that's in there, you got to be opened to.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And there was a lot of you know, it's so
fun to be in the future of your life and
kind of be able to look back and discover, like
how did those things happen?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Like you know, from like.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
The first song, making the first song, first record, the
then like going on tour and becoming like like we
literally did just a Girl video and walked to the
airport and didn't come home for two and a half years.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Like we tour.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
We toured for so long, and I had never been
anywhere before that, like I lived at my parents' house.
What it was really like extreme and then coming back
and being like okay, like I need to be a
great songwriter and I this is what I do and
you know what I mean, like uh, and also going
into like it was my return of Saturn, like Okay,
I'm twenty nine now, like who am I? Like reflection,
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you know, and but each record has its own journey,
and for me, I'm really slow, like I'm a slow processor.
Like I feel like every project takes forever, you know,
until you start getting in that zone and then it's
just it's like rabbit hole like facts, oh.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You're taking time with versus being slow. There's it's the
same thing, I guess.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But this time was like it was a little bit
like and it wasn't just the last four years. I
feel like it was more like the last eight years
or nine years of just you know, from like the
explosion of like the turmoil of losing my entire family,
like my whole family breaking up right and having to
pick up the pieces from that, and like how do
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you do that? Because it's not just a breakup, you
know what I mean, it's a breakup of there's so
many people involved and you're responsible for that, you know,
And so that was just it was just an awful,
horrible time. And you know, to then say only like
turn the other direction and see love, like what like
that was just so unexpected. It was such a blessing
(07:08):
and unexpected one that just turned my life around. And
I don't feel like I ever truly, and I know,
I know my own life. I never felt love like
that before ever. So for everyone deserves it and I
think everybody can choose to receive it and give it,
you know, and be open to it. But it was
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just like you said, being open to it, I I
didn't even feel like. I remember like everyone going, you're
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Like what are you doing with this guy?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You're I mean, you could feel the energy that it
didn't make sense that me and Blake would be together
because it didn't even make sense to me really, you know,
it's like it's.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
So made it made sense. Well, it kind of made sense.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Immediately, like in that weird like kind of like even
to my parents. I remember thinking, I know that they're
gonna be like, what are you doing? But I'm gonna
be like, what, It's fine because when you see us together,
you're gonna see like I get to be me now,
like I'm me, and you're gonna like it. You're gonna
like how we are. So it was just a really
amazing If.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You looked at your life like years ago and and
someone said one day you're gonna be on the farm
and you're gonna have this and you can have that,
you would have probably been.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Like what, No, I still do it all the time.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And I remember one time, like when we first got
together and he would never ever take off his cowboy boots,
Like cowboy boots for me were like just like it
was a foreign word, do you know what I mean,
Like it was so far away from the reality of
(08:37):
my life that I never touched a cowboy boot before,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Like it was it was just so foreign. It was
so foreign supposed Yeah, and I and and.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
So long story short, I can remember the day that
like they were like sitting there at the end of
the bed and I was like, my god, I just
made out his one with like cowboy boots.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That's so weird. I love that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
But it was so right and being in Oklahoma, like
you know, like we were talking about traveling the world,
and that was one of the biggest blessings of my
life because you know, if you don't get to do that,
you don't grow like you do grow, but you stay
in a bubble, right, And so being able to see that,
especially through music, seeing that, you know, one of my
(09:23):
favorite stories. I'm totally like going from different subjects subjects.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Sorry, yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
No, I went to I remember going around to all
these different places, all in Europe, and then you know
it's crazy, like it's insane. This is in the nineties,
and we were in Israel, right, and the Holy Land,
like we were there and we were in a van
and we had been exhausted, this is no doubt, and
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this guy comes up. We were in a van and
all these like guys come up with guns, right, like
machine kind of I'd never seen a gun before. But
we're in Israel, right, and the guys are looking in
the band to check out like like a path like
we were supposed to go through this, Like I don't know,
checkpoint checkpoint kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And the guy looks at me, he looks at me,
he goes, don't speak, and he starts singing me the.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Song and I was like the guy with the machine guy,
and I.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Was like, oh my gosh, like this this guy knows me.
He knows me, like.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And one of those weird moments that you'll never ever
ever forget ever ever.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I love to only that sort because that's that is
the power of not only suffering, right, because that song
is about suffering and then writing about it and then
not thinking anyone would ever hear it. And then it's
I'm in a foreign land and some guy knows it
and he relates to it, and that's that's why I
wanted to make new music, Like how do I not
(10:49):
want to do that again?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
You need more guns and more And then you are
in Oklahoma and Blake's frying a turkey for Thanksgiving right here?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Did you?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I'm guessing you own your own cowboy boots? And yes,
well that's what's so.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Funny about this record too, because I'm wearing a cowboy
hat and I'm not wearing it because now I'm a
cowboy or a cowgirl or that I'm doing a country record,
of course not.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
You know, it's it's an it's a love.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's like a it's like putting on your husband's like
you know, and saying this is look at now, I'm yours.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So yeah, by the way, Gwen Stefani, if you're just
turning us on and this will be played back later
on the best of Okay is the new album. It's
out today, which is kind of ironic that Blake has
music out today too.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
It was not planned, not at all all. Promise you,
I promise you because he just you.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Can ask anyone. He just cut that song like a
couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
He just cut the song a couple of weeks Okay,
what am I doing? I want you to hear something.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Is there going to be healthy competition between the two
of you?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Can we just.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Pause for a minute and say I love you guys,
thank you for me so kind to me, like I'm
celebrating you.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh no, you've got lots to do. Okay, there's a
knob here that turns one of them, turns it up.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Check teck tech one't you I can fill you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Okay, So we're said, it wouldn't be funny if we
had Gwen Stefani come all the way up here. She's
gonna be all glammed up and we do nothing but
talk about her husband's new song.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Are He's.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
That's where all the.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Song about my home state, Texas, just your state. So
Froggy right there, Froggy is he's on our show. He's
in Jacksonville. He's a huge, huge country program director.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Why are you just introducing to him to me now?
Like we've been ignoring him this whole time.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
It's a process we go through. So when you hear
first heard Texas, you're like, oh my god. And I said,
they're coming at the same day as her album. This
is kind of kind of weird. I think it is
so good. It's I know, Blake's on a new record label.
It's his first release with this new label, and it
really is a great song. And we're playing at every
single hour today here.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Wow, Froggy, this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And you know what, Blake is an actual unicorn because
like he doesn't even try, Like he's the most humble,
like just not trying guy.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
He just absorbs like love. It's the craziest thing.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Say, like post Malone was the one that like made
him want to make music again.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I mean We're just sitting there one day and he's like, oh,
Post just wrote and wants me to be on his song.
I was like, what, Like I've been waiting for that.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
What about?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Okay, well we really should we should talk about your album.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I think we've given we've given out her like we're married,
we are, we're promoting you.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Why I know the people, the people from your company
are looking at me like, can you talk about her album?
There is the business part of that, all right, So
Bouquet of course out today. There is a song in there.
We're going to play both someone else's and Bouquet. So
I went to an analyzed the lyrics for someone else's.
This is you're letting it all hang out about your
past marriage as well.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, OK, listen, you got to like share. We're tribal, right,
Like we all need each other so much to heal,
to relate to each other, to understand that we're not alone,
that like this stuff happens and then you can get better.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
And like I.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Didn't intend to really go back and like I don't
want to go backwards, you know what I mean? In fact,
a lot of the time when I was trying to
get this record, I was trying to go backwards, like
I was circling these cul de sacs of like, oh
maybe I'll be like reggae again, or you know what
I mean, trying to be nostalgic and try to find
who I am. Like musically now that represents who I am, right.
(14:43):
But I think that with this song lyrically, it wasn't
even really my idea. We were writing a lot with
which I have, like the different co writers that I
finally landed in the right space with these these people,
and one of the girls, Madison Love Like, said me
the idea for this song, and I was like, oh, no,
we're not going in the beginning you write that's bad energy.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I'm just gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
But I really think that it really works on the
album because it's, first of all, it's the truth. The
second of all, it shows how far this love has grown,
like how much I've recovered, how much healing, and like
you can't really see the light without the dark.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
When there's more to it than that. It's so relatable
because so many people have been or are going through
are about to go through the same thing lyrics from
somebody else's. Now, Okay, you know it's out. You can't
hide from it. It's great though, now that I've found
the real thing. You don't compare and I don't care
that you're somebody else's. And it doesn't even break my heart.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
This is the only negative song on the record, guys.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
It is it's actually positive.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It doesn't break my heart to you're somebody else's. And
I pray for them, whoever they are. Hi, you gotta
be honest, you know what people? You know people more
than ever. We have bets, detectors. We know when people
are not being honest with us. How more honest can
you be?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
And it makes you human, It makes you you know,
even though you know you're When Safani people go, she
doesn't have issues, doesn't have problems, and then they look
at that.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Have you heard my record?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
H my god, I've.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Had a lot of problems, right, So this album is
obviously we've heard some of it amazing. And there's this
song that goes back into your past. I'm sure writing
it feels good, getting it out feels good, but now
you release it and it's like, oh, people are gonna
ask me questions about how this goes. Your kids might
ask you questions, how are you navigating through that with
all of this new.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Well, I mean, this is the thing people are you
know right now, Like you guys are my reality. Like
I'm in this room, I don't we don't know each other,
but like you know something about me, like I I know,
I've heard you, I've worked with you before.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Like, but it's just very limited. But but you are
real to me, and I do care about you, and
it's real. But all of that noise whatever, I know
the truth of what happened in my family. My kids
know the truth of what happened in my family, and
my kids can see the joy in me to be
using my purpose, which is to write songs and be
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truthful and to try to be contribute in some way
to this world and have a purpose because I am
not really very good at anything else, but just kind
of rabbit hole like diving into these like these like
obsessions with which what you know, bouquets what was my
obsession for the last four years?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
You know?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
So I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I feel like my I was built to sort of
like it doesn't really get to.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Me too bad.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Like maybe little things if if someone says something that
I read, maybe that is so the opposite of my
actual character. That can mess with you. But at the
same time, yeah, and it's just you want to go
slap them, you know what I mean. It's you actually
want to choke them and punch them, right, But it's
like at the same and correct them. But at the
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same time, it's like reality's reality, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I'll tell you what scary our producer. Pretend he's that person.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
We've been working out.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Around. Also, Okay, there's a floral thing going on here,
there's flowers involved here, there's is.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
There bothering you?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
No, not at all? Is there a connection that well?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I you know, I there was like a lot of
I think, not even just in this record, but in
my life, Like gardening has been a huge metaphor to
life right and nature is I think if you just
look into nature sometimes you can be healed by that.
I think Oklahoma's done that for me in so many
ways because my nature was like the beach. I'm a
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California girl, Like we didn't have like we went to
like you know, the park that was connected.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
That is a elementary.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
School Oklahoma was a long way from home.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
It is, but now it's your home.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
But I think the thing about like the idea that
if you plant a seed right and that hope that
you get right, whether it's you know, if I'm thinking
like literally planting and seed, which I do do a
lot because me and Blake garden a lot together. I mean,
I like large scale, like it's our it's our thing,
but it feels and asks anyone that gardens, like they've
done studies on it, like people that garden have lived
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longer lives, like because it gives you this like this peaceful,
hopeful thing that you're waiting for to see that blossom, right.
And I think that I wanted to use that like
idea in the idea of of of healing and finding
love and how that love grows and blossoms and changes,
you know, and and it will die out and it
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will rebloom, right. And so I think that like even
like a song like Purple Irises talks so much about
the insecurities of love and like, you know, I have
this love, but I'm getting older. What if he doesn't
think I'm cute? Like what if he doesn't it what
if it gets taken away? Oh my god, I finally
got it.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
It could go you know.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And so that song kind of talks about getting in
your head and but yeah, that's why I think going
down the road of like the flower thing is just
because it's so real in my life. Like we we
picked these purple irises when we were in twenty twenty
and we we were on the ranch and it was
like pandemic and the kids. We found these irises that
had been like you know, lost, like someone had planted
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them like a hundred years ago. You know what I mean,
show well where are these from? Like we picked them,
we transplanted them, and then years later like they took
over the garden. And so it just it just shows
like love grows, you know, and love this. Yeah, that's
why that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Well, I tell you why. I know we have we
only have a few moments with this. We're going to
play two songs, so okay, when we're done, No, they're
going to drag you off to some insignificant thing.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Wait, could we play three songs?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Cheer for the Elves is Oh my god, good idea
and theye of my favorite albums Your Christmas album.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Thank you? Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Danielle wants to do.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That now, Kay, not to talk about Blake again, but
you know that Blake covered Cheers for the Elves?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
He did, Yeah, he put it on his Christmas record.
Isn't that cool? Charge from a premium? I was just honored,
you know, honored.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Look, Bouquet is out today. But what are you doing
this weekend? You're in New York City. You've got things
going on New York.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah, you know, Actually what is today? Friday? I think
tomorrow I'm in the city.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I'm going to do I'm not saying it, but I'm
going to say it that I'm going to be doing something.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
So still you still really haven't said it. I mean,
maybe just get get creative. What do you think it
could be? It's got to be sometime in the city.
I have a new record and there's a party. Is
it going to be a party of something?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I know people who are big fans of yours. They're
flying in from the West Coast because you're doing something
and they're coming to it and they're big fans, super fans.
Probably you need security because these people are.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
All right, So there's something going on. She can't talk
about it.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
But and she still hasn't.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So do we have like a location of the thing anything?
I just want to wait, tell La like wakes up.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
OK.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, I'm so considerate. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I'm grateful for many things in life, and one of
them is to be able to bring the gift of
our our favorite artists to our listeners who are listening
right now and now they're like, Okay, I needed I
need to dig deeper into this album, you know. Thank
you for the gift of your smile. Thank you, and
we're so we're so just grateful for you waking up
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in the middle of the night.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Thank you for being my first interview today and being
so nice.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
The next one will pale in comparison. Might as well
just going to cancel that stupid thing. All our best
to blake, even though this is about you with us
today and we're always here whenever you always have to
see it at the table.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Thanks for playing my husband's music all the time.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You got to go in of course, Okay, you get.
You get to choose the order in which we play these.
I have somebody else's and I have Bouquet. Which one
do you want to hear?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Let's do Bouquet, just because that's the title track of
the whole and it's and then we can go negative
after that.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It's okay, Well you'll be in a car being with
the way when we go.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
When we never heard this song on the radio, Oh yes,
Oh do we have any video going here? Okay?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
We love to get video or photos.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And our rounds different on the radio when you play
black song, it sounded like a freakin' HiT's.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Like what Here's what happens. We send the sound from
here down the hall to We call it the meat grinder,
and it changes everything and it comes back and plays
out on the air. It sounds different. We've had artists
come in and go, my entire guitar solo is hidden.
I can't hear it anymore, the meat grinder. So I
hope we hear your.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Vocals on this.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
This is so thank you so much for coming in, Gwinn,
Thank you for having me, Gwen Stefani.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Bouquet, everyone that's listening to my music all these years on.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Not only is your smile infectious, but your smell is delicious.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
And this is Bouquet.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
When
F Live from Them Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It is Gwen Stefani Friday. We love celebrating new music.
We're always looking for reasons to celebrate. How about a
new album from Gwen Stefani. Yes, the album is Bouquet
and she's in town here in New York City. She's
got lots going on. I have friends flying in from
the West Coast to be a part of something going on.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Something we weren't invited to. Hold on.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
We'll get to the bottom of this. Please welcome the
one and only Gwen Stefani. You deserve a standing, Oh
a standing, Come on in, Hi, you don't have.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
He smells amazing.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Shower A couple of warnings. First of all, you got
to stay close to the microphone.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Those headphones you can know how to work. Let's see.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Another thing, is I'm kidding like I'm literally I need
all the instructions in the world right now.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
This has been an early wake up call for.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well so far you're doing well, but it's only been
ten seconds. When you walk all guests walk past Danielle,
she sniffs.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, oh okay, you should have told me that earlier.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
But you smell amazing.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Jason Derulo is the best smelling person I've ever ever
had come by me.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Oh really, you're out there. You smell beautiful. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
This is one of those things only a woman could
get away with, because if we had a dude sitting
in that seat, he was like, feel.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Aware, attorney's involved. Okay, So, as I said before you
came in, we all need reasons to celebrate. Having a
new album is pretty darn good reason to celebrate, is
I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It's been me right now, it's like the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Okay, I'm gonna try being right.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I mean, you don't know how long I've wanted this,
Like I had this like this like little voice inside me,
going make our record, you can do it, And I'm like,
I don't think I need to do that.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Why would I do that? Now? I have so many
songs like.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
This is a gross comparison, But the need to put
out an album is it like the pimple that needs popping?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
You know what I'm saying. They didn't feel like that.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
It felt a little bit more like how it's really
hard to it's it's a little more spiritual than a
pimple pop. Okay, it feels like it feels like I
remember the first time I wrote a song and I
was like I look back and I'm like, oh, there's
there's wings back there. Like I didn't know I could fly,
you know what I'm saying. And I wrote this song
(02:31):
like not nobody taught me, Like it just was. It
just came out of me. So it's like you find
your gift inside you, your purpose, and then when you
don't do that for a while and you just feel like,
I need to do it again because that makes me
feel like I feel it makes that feel I'm doing
something in the world good, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So I just needed to write music.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I felt like, you know, it's so important about what
you're saying, and everyone drive into work right now, coming
from a house to an office, to a school to
prop kids office, and that wonder, well, what's what's my calling,
what's my thing? What do I have that's already on
board that I have not discovered yet? You discovered that song,
you discovered.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Your Before that, I was literally like this floating like
you know, oh my god, I love Tony Like I'm like,
you know what I mean, like a girl that had
no nothing, like I wasn't going anywhere. I was just
just existing, didn't have big dreams, nothing, And once I
did it, it was like, oh my gosh, this is like, well,
first I found identity, you know, through music, you know,
(03:32):
finding music like Madness and The Selector and all these
like underground SKA bands at the time back in the
day when I was like fifteen, you know.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
What I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
But then it was like when the songwriting happened, it
was like, oh my gosh, cause you gotta I mean,
people don't really know this about me, but I was.
I'm dyslexic, so I have a really hard time in
school as a child, like trying to figure out I'm
just looking around and nothing. Everyone seems to be doing
something that I don't get, and I'm like, what what's
wrong with me?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
You know?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
And so that And it's not like I didn't fit
in socially or anything like that, but it was more like,
I'm it was just harder for me. So I think
that being able to find music and have no rules,
no spelling, no grammar, just my heart and just trying
to express myself and then being able to do it,
and then those songs like they speak back to you,
(04:23):
like they they could because I feel like I receive
them there, I don't feel responsible for them. I pray
for them, they come if they're if, if they're meant to,
and then when I share them, it's like I'm like
this vessel. So that's that's why it's not like a pimple.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
It's gonna be very fulfilling as well.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But I just love the Going back to what I
was saying in a second ago is a lot of people,
include me, and a lot of us are still looking
for that yeah thing. I know in the past four years,
your your world has been it's been this whirlwind of
incredible things. You got married, I mean, you're you have
this new incredible life that that has that you you
(05:08):
were just open for. I think you have to be
open for it to happen. Any creativity that we have
that's in there, you got to be opened to.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And there was a lot of you know, it's so
fun to be in the future of your life and
kind of be able to look back and discover, like
how did those things happen?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Like you know, from like.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
The first song, making the first song, first record, the
then like going on tour and becoming like like we
literally did just a Girl video and walked to the
airport and didn't come home for two and a half years.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Like we tour.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
We toured for so long, and I had never been
anywhere before that, like I lived at my parents' house.
What it was really like extreme and then coming back
and being like okay, like I need to be a
great songwriter and I this is what I do and
you know what I mean, like uh, and also going
into like it was my return of Saturn, like Okay,
I'm twenty nine now, like who am I? Like reflection,
(06:05):
you know, and but each record has its own journey,
and for me, I'm really slow, like I'm a slow processor.
Like I feel like every project takes forever, you know,
until you start getting in that zone and then it's
just it's like rabbit hole like facts, oh.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You're taking time with versus being slow. There's it's the
same thing, I guess.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But this time was like it was a little bit
like and it wasn't just the last four years. I
feel like it was more like the last eight years
or nine years of just you know, from like the
explosion of like the turmoil of losing my entire family,
like my whole family breaking up right and having to
pick up the pieces from that, and like how do
(06:46):
you do that? Because it's not just a breakup, you
know what I mean, it's a breakup of there's so
many people involved and you're responsible for that, you know,
And so that was just it was just an awful,
horrible time. And you know, to then say only like
turn the other direction and see love, like what like
that was just so unexpected. It was such a blessing
(07:08):
and unexpected one that just turned my life around. And
I don't feel like I ever truly, and I know,
I know my own life. I never felt love like
that before ever. So for everyone deserves it and I
think everybody can choose to receive it and give it,
you know, and be open to it. But it was
(07:28):
just like you said, being open to it, I I
didn't even feel like. I remember like everyone going, you're
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Like what are you doing with this guy?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
You're I mean, you could feel the energy that it
didn't make sense that me and Blake would be together
because it didn't even make sense to me really, you know,
it's like it's.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
So made it made sense. Well, it kind of made sense.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Immediately, like in that weird like kind of like even
to my parents. I remember thinking, I know that they're
gonna be like, what are you doing? But I'm gonna
be like, what, It's fine because when you see us together,
you're gonna see like I get to be me now,
like I'm me, and you're gonna like it. You're gonna
like how we are. So it was just a really
amazing If.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You looked at your life like years ago and and
someone said one day you're gonna be on the farm
and you're gonna have this and you can have that,
you would have probably been.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Like what, No, I still do it all the time.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And I remember one time, like when we first got
together and he would never ever take off his cowboy boots,
Like cowboy boots for me were like just like it
was a foreign word, do you know what I mean,
Like it was so far away from the reality of
(08:37):
my life that I never touched a cowboy boot before,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Like it was it was just so foreign. It was
so foreign supposed Yeah, and I and and.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
So long story short, I can remember the day that
like they were like sitting there at the end of
the bed and I was like, my god, I just
made out his one with like cowboy boots.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
That's so weird. I love that.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
But it was so right and being in Oklahoma, like
you know, like we were talking about traveling the world,
and that was one of the biggest blessings of my
life because you know, if you don't get to do that,
you don't grow like you do grow, but you stay
in a bubble, right, And so being able to see that,
especially through music, seeing that, you know, one of my
(09:23):
favorite stories. I'm totally like going from different subjects subjects.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Sorry, yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
No, I went to I remember going around to all
these different places, all in Europe, and then you know
it's crazy, like it's insane. This is in the nineties,
and we were in Israel, right, and the Holy Land,
like we were there and we were in a van
and we had been exhausted, this is no doubt, and
(09:54):
this guy comes up. We were in a van and
all these like guys come up with guns, right, like
machine kind of I'd never seen a gun before. But
we're in Israel, right, and the guys are looking in
the band to check out like like a path like
we were supposed to go through this, Like I don't know,
checkpoint checkpoint kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And the guy looks at me, he looks at me,
he goes, don't speak, and he starts singing me the.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Song and I was like the guy with the machine guy,
and I.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Was like, oh my gosh, like this this guy knows me.
He knows me, like.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And one of those weird moments that you'll never ever
ever forget ever ever.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I love to only that sort because that's that is
the power of not only suffering, right, because that song
is about suffering and then writing about it and then
not thinking anyone would ever hear it. And then it's
I'm in a foreign land and some guy knows it
and he relates to it, and that's that's why I
wanted to make new music, Like how do I not
(10:49):
want to do that again?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
You need more guns and more And then you are
in Oklahoma and Blake's frying a turkey for Thanksgiving right here?
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Did you?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I'm guessing you own your own cowboy boots? And yes,
well that's what's so.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Funny about this record too, because I'm wearing a cowboy
hat and I'm not wearing it because now I'm a
cowboy or a cowgirl or that I'm doing a country record,
of course not.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
You know, it's it's an it's a love.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's like a it's like putting on your husband's like
you know, and saying this is look at now, I'm yours.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So yeah, by the way, Gwen Stefani, if you're just
turning us on and this will be played back later
on the best of Okay is the new album. It's
out today, which is kind of ironic that Blake has
music out today too.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
It was not planned, not at all all. Promise you,
I promise you because he just you.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Can ask anyone. He just cut that song like a
couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
He just cut the song a couple of weeks Okay,
what am I doing? I want you to hear something.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Is there going to be healthy competition between the two
of you?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Can we just.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Pause for a minute and say I love you guys,
thank you for me so kind to me, like I'm
celebrating you.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh no, you've got lots to do. Okay, there's a
knob here that turns one of them, turns it up.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Check teck tech one't you I can fill you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Okay, So we're said, it wouldn't be funny if we
had Gwen Stefani come all the way up here. She's
gonna be all glammed up and we do nothing but
talk about her husband's new song.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Are He's.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
That's where all the.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Song about my home state, Texas, just your state. So
Froggy right there, Froggy is he's on our show. He's
in Jacksonville. He's a huge, huge country program director.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Why are you just introducing to him to me now?
Like we've been ignoring him this whole time.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
It's a process we go through. So when you hear
first heard Texas, you're like, oh my god. And I said,
they're coming at the same day as her album. This
is kind of kind of weird. I think it is
so good. It's I know, Blake's on a new record label.
It's his first release with this new label, and it
really is a great song. And we're playing at every
single hour today here.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Wow, Froggy, this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And you know what, Blake is an actual unicorn because
like he doesn't even try, Like he's the most humble,
like just not trying guy.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
He just absorbs like love. It's the craziest thing.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Say, like post Malone was the one that like made
him want to make music again.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I mean We're just sitting there one day and he's like, oh,
Post just wrote and wants me to be on his song.
I was like, what, Like I've been waiting for that.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
What about?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Okay, well we really should we should talk about your album.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
I think we've given we've given out her like we're married,
we are, we're promoting you.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Why I know the people, the people from your company
are looking at me like, can you talk about her album?
There is the business part of that, all right, So
Bouquet of course out today. There is a song in there.
We're going to play both someone else's and Bouquet. So
I went to an analyzed the lyrics for someone else's.
This is you're letting it all hang out about your
past marriage as well.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Yeah, OK, listen, you got to like share. We're tribal, right,
Like we all need each other so much to heal,
to relate to each other, to understand that we're not alone,
that like this stuff happens and then you can get better.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
And like I.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Didn't intend to really go back and like I don't
want to go backwards, you know what I mean? In fact,
a lot of the time when I was trying to
get this record, I was trying to go backwards, like
I was circling these cul de sacs of like, oh
maybe I'll be like reggae again, or you know what
I mean, trying to be nostalgic and try to find
who I am. Like musically now that represents who I am, right.
(14:43):
But I think that with this song lyrically, it wasn't
even really my idea. We were writing a lot with
which I have, like the different co writers that I
finally landed in the right space with these these people,
and one of the girls, Madison Love Like, said me
the idea for this song, and I was like, oh, no,
we're not going in the beginning you write that's bad energy.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
I'm just gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
But I really think that it really works on the
album because it's, first of all, it's the truth. The
second of all, it shows how far this love has grown,
like how much I've recovered, how much healing, and like
you can't really see the light without the dark.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
When there's more to it than that. It's so relatable
because so many people have been or are going through
are about to go through the same thing lyrics from
somebody else's. Now, Okay, you know it's out. You can't
hide from it. It's great though, now that I've found
the real thing. You don't compare and I don't care
that you're somebody else's. And it doesn't even break my heart.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
This is the only negative song on the record, guys.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
It is it's actually positive.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It doesn't break my heart to you're somebody else's. And
I pray for them, whoever they are. Hi, you gotta
be honest, you know what people? You know people more
than ever. We have bets, detectors. We know when people
are not being honest with us. How more honest can
you be?
Speaker 4 (16:04):
And it makes you human, It makes you you know,
even though you know you're When Safani people go, she
doesn't have issues, doesn't have problems, and then they look
at that.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Have you heard my record?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
H my god, I've.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Had a lot of problems, right, So this album is
obviously we've heard some of it amazing. And there's this
song that goes back into your past. I'm sure writing
it feels good, getting it out feels good, but now
you release it and it's like, oh, people are gonna
ask me questions about how this goes. Your kids might
ask you questions, how are you navigating through that with
all of this new.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Well, I mean, this is the thing people are you
know right now, Like you guys are my reality. Like
I'm in this room, I don't we don't know each other,
but like you know something about me, like I I know,
I've heard you, I've worked with you before.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Like, but it's just very limited. But but you are
real to me, and I do care about you, and
it's real. But all of that noise whatever, I know
the truth of what happened in my family. My kids
know the truth of what happened in my family, and
my kids can see the joy in me to be
using my purpose, which is to write songs and be
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truthful and to try to be contribute in some way
to this world and have a purpose because I am
not really very good at anything else, but just kind
of rabbit hole like diving into these like these like
obsessions with which what you know, bouquets what was my
obsession for the last four years?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
You know?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
So I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I feel like my I was built to sort of
like it doesn't really get to.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Me too bad.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Like maybe little things if if someone says something that
I read, maybe that is so the opposite of my
actual character. That can mess with you. But at the
same time, yeah, and it's just you want to go
slap them, you know what I mean. It's you actually
want to choke them and punch them, right, But it's
like at the same and correct them. But at the
(18:00):
same time, it's like reality's reality, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I'll tell you what scary our producer. Pretend he's that person.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
We've been working out.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Around. Also, Okay, there's a floral thing going on here,
there's flowers involved here, there's is.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
There bothering you?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
No, not at all? Is there a connection that well?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I you know, I there was like a lot of
I think, not even just in this record, but in
my life, Like gardening has been a huge metaphor to
life right and nature is I think if you just
look into nature sometimes you can be healed by that.
I think Oklahoma's done that for me in so many
ways because my nature was like the beach. I'm a
(18:44):
California girl, Like we didn't have like we went to
like you know, the park that was connected.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
That is a elementary.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
School Oklahoma was a long way from home.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
It is, but now it's your home.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
But I think the thing about like the idea that
if you plant a seed right and that hope that
you get right, whether it's you know, if I'm thinking
like literally planting and seed, which I do do a
lot because me and Blake garden a lot together. I mean,
I like large scale, like it's our it's our thing,
but it feels and asks anyone that gardens, like they've
done studies on it, like people that garden have lived
(19:17):
longer lives, like because it gives you this like this peaceful,
hopeful thing that you're waiting for to see that blossom, right.
And I think that I wanted to use that like
idea in the idea of of of healing and finding
love and how that love grows and blossoms and changes,
you know, and and it will die out and it
(19:38):
will rebloom, right. And so I think that like even
like a song like Purple Irises talks so much about
the insecurities of love and like, you know, I have
this love, but I'm getting older. What if he doesn't
think I'm cute? Like what if he doesn't it what
if it gets taken away? Oh my god, I finally
got it.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
It could go you know.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And so that song kind of talks about getting in
your head and but yeah, that's why I think going
down the road of like the flower thing is just
because it's so real in my life. Like we we
picked these purple irises when we were in twenty twenty
and we we were on the ranch and it was
like pandemic and the kids. We found these irises that
had been like you know, lost, like someone had planted
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them like a hundred years ago. You know what I mean,
show well where are these from? Like we picked them,
we transplanted them, and then years later like they took
over the garden. And so it just it just shows
like love grows, you know, and love this. Yeah, that's
why that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Well, I tell you why. I know we have we
only have a few moments with this. We're going to
play two songs, so okay, when we're done, No, they're
going to drag you off to some insignificant thing.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Wait, could we play three songs?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Cheer for the Elves is Oh my god, good idea
and theye of my favorite albums Your Christmas album.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Thank you? Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Danielle wants to do.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That now, Kay, not to talk about Blake again, but
you know that Blake covered Cheers for the Elves?
Speaker 3 (20:57):
He did, Yeah, he put it on his Christmas record.
Isn't that cool? Charge from a premium? I was just honored,
you know, honored.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Look, Bouquet is out today. But what are you doing
this weekend? You're in New York City. You've got things
going on New York.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Yeah, you know, Actually what is today? Friday? I think
tomorrow I'm in the city.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I'm going to do I'm not saying it, but I'm
going to say it that I'm going to be doing something.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
So still you still really haven't said it. I mean,
maybe just get get creative. What do you think it
could be? It's got to be sometime in the city.
I have a new record and there's a party. Is
it going to be a party of something?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I know people who are big fans of yours. They're
flying in from the West Coast because you're doing something
and they're coming to it and they're big fans, super fans.
Probably you need security because these people are.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
All right, So there's something going on. She can't talk
about it.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
But and she still hasn't.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
So do we have like a location of the thing anything?
I just want to wait, tell La like wakes up.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
OK.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, I'm so considerate. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
I'm grateful for many things in life, and one of
them is to be able to bring the gift of
our our favorite artists to our listeners who are listening
right now and now they're like, Okay, I needed I
need to dig deeper into this album, you know. Thank
you for the gift of your smile. Thank you, and
we're so we're so just grateful for you waking up
(22:21):
in the middle of the night.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Thank you for being my first interview today and being
so nice.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
The next one will pale in comparison. Might as well
just going to cancel that stupid thing. All our best
to blake, even though this is about you with us
today and we're always here whenever you always have to
see it at the table.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Thanks for playing my husband's music all the time.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
You got to go in of course, Okay, you get.
You get to choose the order in which we play these.
I have somebody else's and I have Bouquet. Which one
do you want to hear?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Let's do Bouquet, just because that's the title track of
the whole and it's and then we can go negative
after that.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
It's okay, Well you'll be in a car being with
the way when we go.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
When we never heard this song on the radio, Oh yes,
Oh do we have any video going here? Okay?
Speaker 2 (23:07):
We love to get video or photos.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And our rounds different on the radio when you play
black song, it sounded like a freakin' HiT's.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Like what Here's what happens. We send the sound from
here down the hall to We call it the meat grinder,
and it changes everything and it comes back and plays
out on the air. It sounds different. We've had artists
come in and go, my entire guitar solo is hidden.
I can't hear it anymore, the meat grinder. So I
hope we hear your.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Vocals on this.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
This is so thank you so much for coming in, Gwinn,
Thank you for having me, Gwen Stefani.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Bouquet, everyone that's listening to my music all these years on.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Not only is your smile infectious, but your smell is delicious.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
And this is Bouquet.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
When
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