November 13, 2023 • 22 mins
Fresh off his epic climb of the Empire State Building, Jared Leto stops by to talk about 30 Seconds to Mars new world tour. If you want to go see 30 Seconds to Mars, head to LiveNation.com, the presale starts this Thursday at 10am for 24 hours (until Friday at 10am). Use the code IHEART (good for any show in the US).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I mean, how many times have we said this sentence
on our show? We love Jared Leto, We say it
all the time, so many times things about him, and
he's like done everything. Oh, he's got more to do, Danielle. I.
We're going to talk to him about all of that,
all of the above, in a few minutes. He just
climbed the Empire State Building. Got to talk about that.
We have his new song, Seasons, which I love, but
(00:20):
we can't find the radio version because it has I
hate this business we're in. We can't It has the
F word and the S word. I can't believe we
have to say it that way, so we can't play it.
So they're looking for the clean radio version. Here. Oh
there's Jared. Oh my god, from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.
(00:42):
Oh God, all is right with the world because Jared
Leto is here. Hi, Jared, I wish I was there, Good.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
My friend, Good to see you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well, I wish I was in there. I wish I
could like, like have the full experience, like sniffing you
and touching you.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
A deep, meaningful hug. Yes anything hug.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Can we go ahead and start the interview out on
a negative? Here?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
We go.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, the song Seasons I love thank you, So I said, hey,
make sure you have in the computer. We got to
play it today. But they can't find the radio version.
So in the stupid business, worr and we can't say
the S word and the F word, and the song
includes both two of my favorite words.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, it's a little bit of a naughty song, Seasons.
It sounds like it would be such a nice, kind
of gentle, sweet, good good boys song, but it is.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's not about winter and spring and it is.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You know, sometimes you drop a bomb in those seasons too,
you know, it.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Just it just pisses me off. I see, we can
say pisses. We can say the word pisses.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
And I know as I travel the world some in
some places like England, you can drop certain words that
you can't drop here, right, But you know, I'll try
to remember next time and come prepared. No, it's not
you safety, it's for this world, the America.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You know, we need that profession.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
God, it's amazing what we edit and then what we
don't edit.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, it's so ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, I mean, I'm thinking what if we played Seasons
and when the efforts about to happen or when the
esports of happened. You just get to the micro microphone
and go yourself so stupid.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, I think the pre chorus to the chorus there
are it's it's a clean song, it's a save songkay.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But I want to hear all the lyrics. I don't
want to edit anything else. This is like you don't
ask an artist to like edit. There they're painting because right,
you know, what have you ever been to uh Carrera,
Italy where they you know, they do marble, They mind marble,
and they have these stores that have the uh the
statue of David like little marble David. Half of the
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store is David with a penis and half of them
have no penis.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, we all know David didn't have a penis.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Wait a minute, I think he did.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I must argue with that, and I've seen the full
We're not missing much. He had big hands, though massive hands,
small pair goes of that myth. Hey, so, uh where
do we start? I'll start with thank you so much
for all the love you and the band have given
iHeart over the years, and you've come to so many
of our festivals and made them. You put festive in
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festival every single time, and now the tour about to happen.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I want to talk about that. I'm want to talk
about you climbing the Empire State Building. Are you out
of your mind? But let's start there. You climbed the
Empire State Building to well, because you needed to, but
secondly to hey, world, I have a tour coming up. Yeah, climate,
I'm gonna climb a skyscraper. Talk about that.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
You know, you do these things in your life, you
put out tours and albums, and I'm at the point
in my life where I just you want to have
fun with it.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Number one.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And ever since I was a little kid, I had
this fascination with the Empire State Building. For me, it
was a symbol of New York and New York was
a symbol of a place that you come to make
your dreams come true. As corny as that can sound,
it was true. I always wanted to be an artist,
and I loved and Andy Warhol. I loved New York City,
and this was the place you came to make your
your creative dreams come true. And so I was fascinated.
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And of course, like you know, at that time, it
was King Kong and it was againness world records and
so all of that kind of came together. And I've
I've always wanted to climb. I love to climb. It's
something that really gives me, I don't know, a sense
of peace and uh and uh.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It was a beautiful thing. It was really really, really
really incredible. Is it hard to get permission to do
something like that? You know, that's probably the hardest part
of the climb.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Oh wait, ye permission?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Fun?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, you asked someone.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well usually I would, but you know these days. But
it was it was an incredible thing to do. I
mean I watched I not only climbed it once, I
actually climbed it twice. We did it on Wednesday and Thursday.
We managed to keep it quiet on Wednesday, which really.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Wow, How is that?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I know that's imps Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
How do you not know there's a guy on the
side of a building right exactly, especially if you're on
the eightieth floor. Look at your mother was actually on
the eightieth floor looking out the window at you. That
got him. That had been really fun.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, as she came on the second day and I
did get up to this one section where it was
this big glass window.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I say, hey, Bob, you'll get inside.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yes. She's like what She's like, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
My son, what have I done? My boys? My boys
or music? And this one's climbing like a fly on
a building. She must be so proud of you.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I got a chance to see the sun rise two
days in a row. I'm not a big fan of
the sunrise, by the way, like a sunset much better.
But I saw the sunrise a couple of days hanging
off that beautiful building that they put up in thirteen months.
By the way, its pretty impressive, and it was incredible. Yeah,
it's to launch the tour. We haven't been on tour
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in six years. Uh, you know, we've we've been working
on an album. New album came out a month ago.
It's called at the End of the World. But it's
a beautiful day and so it's just a big celebration.
Way to make a little noise and have a little fun.
But it's it's you know, it's incredible. I mean I
was so depressed the day after, I have to tell you,
I was.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I was.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I was like in bed, just going God, my life
because they adrenaline done.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh I bet Yeah, it's coming down off that. I mean,
but you've climbed buildings before. This is nothing new in
your world, Jared.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I've climbed buildings, but I mean it's the Empire State Building.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, you got that going. Yeah, all right, well now
you got top that. I'm kind of freaking out because
I'm sitting next to hatbox ghost. Oh yeah, big fan
of Haunted Mansion. I love everything Haunted Mansion.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
I thought the movie was so awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
So it's kind of strange thing next to head bunks.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Well, it was for me, it was I did ah,
it was. I did a favor for a very good
friend of mine named Sean Bailey at Disney, and I
always wanted to do the voice for like a cartoon
or a CG character, So that was a fun thing
that I hadn't done before. Actually I did a voice
and I think they screened it for a few people
and was it was really, I guess, too hard to understand.
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I'd put like a French accent on it. I thought
the guy should have a French accent. They're like, like,
we got to redo this. Nobody can understand a word
you're saying, so we redid it. And that was that
was it, But that was fun. It was you know,
a couple of days work and lots of makeup.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, I gotta tell you. You know, someone just sent
a text and I find this very believable, they said,
Eric five one six. I walked past Jared Leto in
Las Vegas. Once we made eye contact, and I felt
like I teleported to a happy new planet. The best
second of my so called life. Ever, what is it
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with your You do have this incredible, incredible energy. And
I'm sure you're tired of people saying that, or maybe
you've never heard anyone say that, but you do have
this amazing energy through your music, through your work, but
just in person, and I don't know, I don't think
you're real. Do you have a reflection when you're walking
from a mirror?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Do you know? Probably not?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But you know, I love being in the yor because
I get a chance to, you know, it's actually quite cool.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
People in New York are awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I walk around and people say, hey, Jared, how you
doing nice climb? Congrats or this you can't wait for
the tour, or see you at Barkley's or whatever it is.
And people are very sweet, nice, and I don't know.
I feel like if I can have a moment just
to make someone's you know, day, or to you know,
put a smile on their face, like I'm really I
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like to.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Do that, you know, it feels good.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well, I tell you, we're going to talk about your
tour in a second and how you can get the
exclusive pre sale ticket to the moment. But back to
the building. You got to the top of the mpar
State Building and you performed right there on the roof. Gone,
do you had a question for Jared about about in
Par State Building?
Speaker 6 (08:43):
So when you're performing, it looked like you didn't have
any type of harness. And I know it's really windy
up there. Yeah, you weren't nervous at all. Your people
weren't like, dude.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
You can and I am quite skinny, so I kind
of blow them off the top, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I did think about it. The winds were we started
about four in the morning.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
We were up at three point fifteen and I think
we started climbing around four in the morning, and it
was dark. It was very hard to see. I actually
stood on these tiny little boat bolts and that are
part of the rivets, part of the wall that keep
it together and then I held onto the seal of
the side of the window, which was very sharp as you.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, tore up.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
But yeah, when we got to the top at the
point it was like, okay, I can probably take the
rope off. But it is a really intense section. It's
called the ice shield. And my brother and I, who's
the second half of or maybe the first half of
thirty seconds to Mars because he's the older brother. We
stood on the ice shield, which is maybe four feet
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three and a half four feet wide, and it has
no railing, so you are kind of on the edge
of the earth there above New York City, and we
performed the song and I have to say, you know,
sometimes when you perform a song, you know, for TV
show or whatever, it can feel a little stiff because
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of the constraints of filming and there's no audience. But
it felt incredible. We've played this song up there and
it was like we I don't know, it was the favorite,
my favorite performance of that song we've ever had.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, it was really special. So yeah, Shannon was up
there and he came out. You come out of a capsule,
it looks like it looks like the you know, this
the capsule that comes back from space. It shaped actually
the same way. It has a little hole like on
the side that you climb in and out of. So
when my brother came out of it and he saw
three sixty view of New York Central Park on one
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side Downtown on the other, he was.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Like, oh my god, this is wow.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Same wow, but very cool. The people over there are amazing.
And you know, like I said before, just I couldn't
think of a more fun way to announce the tour.
We're back and a new album, new song, new tour,
So were with it.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And by the way, if you haven't heard Seasons, wait
to hear the song. And the first time we heard
it was what that is fabulous and I'm gonna play
it for you. And it's like we found the clean version,
by the way, which still pierces me off. I wish
we could just use the original version. It makes me mad.
We're gonna move on. But climbing a building being a
hundred stories up, I mean there is As I always say,
there's a thin line between the excitement and fright Which
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side were you on? Were you more excited more frightened?
I mean, oh, I.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Was certainly more excited.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I mean, I've had quite a bit of experience climbing.
I'm a beginning I still consider myself an amateur, you know,
a total beginner climber. But I have climbed a lot.
And I was just in Yosemite right before this, you know,
hanging off a wall. Uh actually with my good friend
Alex Hanald from fri Solo. Oh wow, who's a phenomenal
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person and great athlete. But I you know, for me,
it was it was just excitement. There was one time
when I was standing on the fins, which sure those
kind of art deco pieces that are about a forty
five degree angle on the side or something like that.
But I was standing over there and I, you know,
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it was looking up trying to see as there are
way up the fins and it was too blank. It
was too slippery to climb. But I was standing on
about twelve inches by twelve inches, which was a huge
rest spot. This is on the second day, and I
went to look up and a breeze came and woof
almost knocked me off the side. In that moment, I
was like, oh, I'm up really high. This is pretty scary.
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But for the most part, it was really just it
was incredible. You know, there is a vantage point there
that's pretty unique.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
And when you do.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
On the second day, when we were taking breaks to film,
I would push off sometimes if there was a moment
just for fun and kind of swing out over the
abyss and in those moments, your stomach drops a little bit.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Yeah, and the studios are never please stop, please stop
doing this. Where any of the movie studios or any
of the people who are.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know, the people that people that rely on you
for their income.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Jared swinging again.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
We did get a call the next day. My producing partner,
Emma Lovebrook, got a call from the studio saying, we
need to talk insurance.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Of course, as you understand that. By the way, if
you're just turning us on, Jared letters here we're talking
about the upcoming tour. I gotta tell you how to
get your tickets pre sale. In a second, we're going
to play the song seasons. When it comes to climbing,
let's just go off the building of just to a
wall and let's talk about just a mountain. My friends
who do climb, they say it's as close to meditation
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as they can get without saying you're meditating because you
are one with the structure and you've got to focus
on nothing but your next step or your next pool, right,
your next climb, climbing pool, and that takes you away
from the whole world. And this is what's great about meditation.
We need to have things like that in our lives.
So is that what climbing does for you or do
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you have other ways to escape this crazy machine that
we're living in.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
No? Absolutely, absolutely, It's one of those things that kind
of cuts the digital leash. You know, gets you away
from your works, from some of the troubles or stresses
in your life, and you don't have a choice but
to be in the moment. And you know when there
are a lot there are things that do that. It's
not just climbing, obviously, but for me, it puts me
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a nature. It's usually a pretty beautiful day because you
have to have temperatures that are not too hot, not
too cold, and usually with some interesting people. A lot
of times you don't have cell service, which is really
nice nice. Yeah, so it's a beautiful thing. It does
give me a chance to be purely in the moment
and it is meditative. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So when you and your partner, sit down and you
wrote when you wrote the album, which was that in September,
Because I've been listening to this for a little while.
Do you find so writing and performing also a meditative,
a meditation type thing for you where you just like
you're on stage, Let's say at the iHeart Radio Music
Festival and you're singing. What are you thinking about? Do
you think when you're performing? What does one do? We
(15:13):
don't know what we don't understand?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Interesting, when you're in the best place, you're connected to
the song, the audience is. The funny thing about playing
live is like you record an aum, you put it out,
people listen to it hopefully, and then they make this
you know, it becomes kind of the fabric, the soundtrack
of their lives. And then they come to a show
and they hear you play that song that they've made
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all of these people have made these personal connections to
and you know, one day you hear it in your car,
you're on the radio, you hear it in the grocery store,
you hear it with a friend, you hear it there,
you hear it there. It just becomes part of your
life and then when you show up, everyone shares that
kind of personal, private experience with each other and the
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best moments on stage you're all kind of lost in that.
But sometimes on stage I'm looking at like Row thirteen,
there's a guy who seems a little distracted. I should
maybe put a little more energy that when motivation phone. Yeah,
Oh geez, that guy just yawned over here.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
What I always thought the lights were blinding and you
couldn't see any of that.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Oh no, no, no no, because the lights are facing you,
so I see everything. Oh wow, okay, I see everything.
I see people. I sometimes they see friends at shows
and I'm like, they're on their phone for a really
long time.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Hold on, I'm gonna bust you out. But we're not shut.
I'll get on the microphone and be like, hey, what
are you doing.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
But we're gonna play bark Last time we played MSG,
and we're gonna play Barkley's this time.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Everybody's invited.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I know you go to too many shows, probably, but everyone,
if you're never enough.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
You want to come, you're welcome. I know a guy
can get you tickets.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Your brother, Yeah, tell your brother exactly. By the way,
if you want to see thirty seconds to Mars, they
are doing the major tour. I mean we're talking worldwide, right.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
You can go to live nation dot com. Exclusive presale
going on starts this Thursday morning at ten for twenty
four hours till Friday morning. Use the code iHeart. We're
the guy you know, and you could get a you
can get pre sale. It's the code is iHeart at
livenation dot com. Thank you for coming in today, Jared,
I gotta play this song. I have to share this
song with with our good friends listening because it's really
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that great talk about seasons.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Well, you know, for me, it's the type of song
it makes me. It gives me a sense of nostalgia,
and I love when the songs do that. You know,
it kind of makes me. It makes me think the
summer I just had, or certain parts of my life. Yeah,
look who we got in the house here.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
On. I gotta hear his voice on radio. I gotta
hear your voice.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
He always busts in and ruins our interviews. Get out
of here, I gotta hear your voice.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Hang in a second. I'm listening to you on the
app and it's late.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I gotta on radio.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Hey Tom, I'm interviewing Jared Little can you get out,
can you go? I mean he talks about you and
non stop. Just make out with him. Get it over with. Damn,
we've been making out. We've been doing a little making
out come on sexual attention.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I think we were doing this weekend.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, one night, Jared, one night, Tom and I were
so drunk I subbed his finger at the restaurant for
like thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
It's a nice finger. What do you get.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
You'll keep in mind if you taste his finger, you're
tasting me. And there is that.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
What that was?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
We got to play seasons and Jared, thank you so
much for coming in a little.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Tom about the radio, talk to you.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
We'll talk.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Did you talk about this song after a Place?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Well, thanks for coming in. Man, it's so good to
see you. And next time you climb a building, let
us know ahead of time because we want we want
to catch you when you fall, or if you.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Fall, there is that you could always come with me.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Wait, did you talk about how you did fall on
the rope saved you?
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I didn't tell that part, but yeah, there was a
moment where I was It was on the second day
and the first day it was more about climbing it.
I had this amazing cinematographer named Ronn who's just a
legendary mountaineer and climber and cinematographer. But he was up
there hanging off the side next to me on a rope.
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So those guys would take stairs up and then drop down.
I climbed up and was the only person climbing. Just
there's some confusion around that, you know, people like, how
did those people weren't they climbing next to you as
well as they actually weren't. They took the stairs because
they're smart.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
But they the elevator.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, exactly, for the most part. They took the elevator.
Only the last level. They took this there on the
top top part, but yeah, the elevator. So I was
up there, and I was like, in the second to
last glass panel, and you know, the rope is there
because the city made us put the rope there.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Well, they don't want to clean up. They don't want
to send you home in a sponge.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
That is, because you know how long it takes to
clean that trash up sometimes Yeah exactly. So yeah, and
and and I was like, why are we doing it
so early? Well, they don't want anybody underneath you. So anyway,
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I was up there climbing and you know, I have
the rope on and uh in case I fall, but
I'm not using the rope to pull me up, and
I'm climbing with my you know, my own body to
to to to ascend the wall. So anyway, I was
in the second to last panel and I'm kind of
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pulling and we stop to get a shot, and uh,
sometimes you do. That second day was more about filming. Okay,
the helicopters going around. Let's wait a little for a second,
and I'm just hanging. I'm just kind of standing on
this very very thin edge. I think it is a
quarter of an inch for the feet, and the bolt
is about a third deep, so that's what my foot
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was on. Anyway, I'm climbing up and he's asking me
to hold on for a moment, and I'm like, okay, fine,
I hold for a second. And all of a sudden,
I went to reach for that second and last window
and my hands gave out and I popped off.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
The window and I fell.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
So I was glad that I had the ropes, but
that probably was the scariest moment because I knew when
I grabbed onto it. I said, oh my god, my
hands are gone. They were bleeding at that point, and
my muscles were totally shod. I had already climbed at
the day before, and it was very cold, forty mile
an hour winds. It was forty one degrees and it
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was intense.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, did your mom see go by when you fell?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Great?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
The good news.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Your brother Shandon was going to come in to day
if you couldn't make it, so we're all good.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Well that's a good thing about having your brother in
the mad he can always cover for you.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Hey, Tom, by the way, who's the president of programming
for I Art? Can you let all the stations they're
listening know that we're running really date, cause came in
and started asking them follow up questions.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
Sure, that's my fault. I don't know why these fixed
stop sets. If you if if you are hard to plays,
have a problem, Tom will blow you out. Just can't
operate like this. Okay, we're gonna take a break. We're
gonna plut the song would come back. But Jared, thank
you for coming in follow up questions?
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Tom stopping Sorry my absolute pleasure, and and I really
appreciate the support and the love and you're playing the song,
and you know, we've had a lot of great performances
over the years, and I look forward to the future.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
It's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Bring him on, Jared, it's so good to see. You
couldn't come come in Elvis Terran. He just keeps opening
his mouth to stand the morning show
I mean, how many times have we said this sentence
on our show? We love Jared Leto, We say it
all the time, so many times things about him, and
he's like done everything. Oh, he's got more to do, Danielle. I.
We're going to talk to him about all of that,
all of the above, in a few minutes. He just
climbed the Empire State Building. Got to talk about that.
We have his new song, Seasons, which I love, but
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we can't find the radio version because it has I
hate this business we're in. We can't It has the
F word and the S word. I can't believe we
have to say it that way, so we can't play it.
So they're looking for the clean radio version. Here. Oh
there's Jared. Oh my god, from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.
(00:42):
Oh God, all is right with the world because Jared
Leto is here. Hi, Jared, I wish I was there, Good.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
My friend, Good to see you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well, I wish I was in there. I wish I
could like, like have the full experience, like sniffing you
and touching you.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
A deep, meaningful hug. Yes anything hug.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Can we go ahead and start the interview out on
a negative? Here?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
We go.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, the song Seasons I love thank you, So I said, hey,
make sure you have in the computer. We got to
play it today. But they can't find the radio version.
So in the stupid business, worr and we can't say
the S word and the F word, and the song
includes both two of my favorite words.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, it's a little bit of a naughty song, Seasons.
It sounds like it would be such a nice, kind
of gentle, sweet, good good boys song, but it is.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's not about winter and spring and it is.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
You know, sometimes you drop a bomb in those seasons too,
you know, it.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Just it just pisses me off. I see, we can
say pisses. We can say the word pisses.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
And I know as I travel the world some in
some places like England, you can drop certain words that
you can't drop here, right, But you know, I'll try
to remember next time and come prepared. No, it's not
you safety, it's for this world, the America.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
You know, we need that profession.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
God, it's amazing what we edit and then what we
don't edit.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, it's so ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yeah, I mean, I'm thinking what if we played Seasons
and when the efforts about to happen or when the
esports of happened. You just get to the micro microphone
and go yourself so stupid.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yeah, I think the pre chorus to the chorus there
are it's it's a clean song, it's a save songkay.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
But I want to hear all the lyrics. I don't
want to edit anything else. This is like you don't
ask an artist to like edit. There they're painting because right,
you know, what have you ever been to uh Carrera,
Italy where they you know, they do marble, They mind marble,
and they have these stores that have the uh the
statue of David like little marble David. Half of the
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store is David with a penis and half of them
have no penis.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Well, we all know David didn't have a penis.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Wait a minute, I think he did.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I must argue with that, and I've seen the full
We're not missing much. He had big hands, though massive hands,
small pair goes of that myth. Hey, so, uh where
do we start? I'll start with thank you so much
for all the love you and the band have given
iHeart over the years, and you've come to so many
of our festivals and made them. You put festive in
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festival every single time, and now the tour about to happen.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
I want to talk about that. I'm want to talk
about you climbing the Empire State Building. Are you out
of your mind? But let's start there. You climbed the
Empire State Building to well, because you needed to, but
secondly to hey, world, I have a tour coming up. Yeah, climate,
I'm gonna climb a skyscraper. Talk about that.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
You know, you do these things in your life, you
put out tours and albums, and I'm at the point
in my life where I just you want to have
fun with it.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Number one.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
And ever since I was a little kid, I had
this fascination with the Empire State Building. For me, it
was a symbol of New York and New York was
a symbol of a place that you come to make
your dreams come true. As corny as that can sound,
it was true. I always wanted to be an artist,
and I loved and Andy Warhol. I loved New York City,
and this was the place you came to make your
your creative dreams come true. And so I was fascinated.
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And of course, like you know, at that time, it
was King Kong and it was againness world records and
so all of that kind of came together. And I've
I've always wanted to climb. I love to climb. It's
something that really gives me, I don't know, a sense
of peace and uh and uh.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It was a beautiful thing. It was really really, really
really incredible. Is it hard to get permission to do
something like that? You know, that's probably the hardest part
of the climb.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Oh wait, ye permission?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Fun?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, you asked someone.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Well usually I would, but you know these days. But
it was it was an incredible thing to do. I
mean I watched I not only climbed it once, I
actually climbed it twice. We did it on Wednesday and Thursday.
We managed to keep it quiet on Wednesday, which really.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Wow, How is that?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
I know that's imps Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
How do you not know there's a guy on the
side of a building right exactly, especially if you're on
the eightieth floor. Look at your mother was actually on
the eightieth floor looking out the window at you. That
got him. That had been really fun.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yeah, as she came on the second day and I
did get up to this one section where it was
this big glass window.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I say, hey, Bob, you'll get inside.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yes. She's like what She's like, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
My son, what have I done? My boys? My boys
or music? And this one's climbing like a fly on
a building. She must be so proud of you.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I got a chance to see the sun rise two
days in a row. I'm not a big fan of
the sunrise, by the way, like a sunset much better.
But I saw the sunrise a couple of days hanging
off that beautiful building that they put up in thirteen months.
By the way, its pretty impressive, and it was incredible. Yeah,
it's to launch the tour. We haven't been on tour
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in six years. Uh, you know, we've we've been working
on an album. New album came out a month ago.
It's called at the End of the World. But it's
a beautiful day and so it's just a big celebration.
Way to make a little noise and have a little fun.
But it's it's you know, it's incredible. I mean I
was so depressed the day after, I have to tell you,
I was.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I was.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I was like in bed, just going God, my life
because they adrenaline done.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh I bet Yeah, it's coming down off that. I mean,
but you've climbed buildings before. This is nothing new in
your world, Jared.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I've climbed buildings, but I mean it's the Empire State Building.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, you got that going. Yeah, all right, well now
you got top that. I'm kind of freaking out because
I'm sitting next to hatbox ghost. Oh yeah, big fan
of Haunted Mansion. I love everything Haunted Mansion.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
I thought the movie was so awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
So it's kind of strange thing next to head bunks.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Well, it was for me, it was I did ah,
it was. I did a favor for a very good
friend of mine named Sean Bailey at Disney, and I
always wanted to do the voice for like a cartoon
or a CG character, So that was a fun thing
that I hadn't done before. Actually I did a voice
and I think they screened it for a few people
and was it was really, I guess, too hard to understand.
(07:02):
I'd put like a French accent on it. I thought
the guy should have a French accent. They're like, like,
we got to redo this. Nobody can understand a word
you're saying, so we redid it. And that was that
was it, But that was fun. It was you know,
a couple of days work and lots of makeup.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, I gotta tell you. You know, someone just sent
a text and I find this very believable, they said,
Eric five one six. I walked past Jared Leto in
Las Vegas. Once we made eye contact, and I felt
like I teleported to a happy new planet. The best
second of my so called life. Ever, what is it
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with your You do have this incredible, incredible energy. And
I'm sure you're tired of people saying that, or maybe
you've never heard anyone say that, but you do have
this amazing energy through your music, through your work, but
just in person, and I don't know, I don't think
you're real. Do you have a reflection when you're walking
from a mirror?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Do you know? Probably not?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
But you know, I love being in the yor because
I get a chance to, you know, it's actually quite cool.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
People in New York are awesome.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I walk around and people say, hey, Jared, how you
doing nice climb? Congrats or this you can't wait for
the tour, or see you at Barkley's or whatever it is.
And people are very sweet, nice, and I don't know.
I feel like if I can have a moment just
to make someone's you know, day, or to you know,
put a smile on their face, like I'm really I
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like to.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Do that, you know, it feels good.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well, I tell you, we're going to talk about your
tour in a second and how you can get the
exclusive pre sale ticket to the moment. But back to
the building. You got to the top of the mpar
State Building and you performed right there on the roof. Gone,
do you had a question for Jared about about in
Par State Building?
Speaker 6 (08:43):
So when you're performing, it looked like you didn't have
any type of harness. And I know it's really windy
up there. Yeah, you weren't nervous at all. Your people
weren't like, dude.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
You can and I am quite skinny, so I kind
of blow them off the top, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I did think about it. The winds were we started
about four in the morning.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
We were up at three point fifteen and I think
we started climbing around four in the morning, and it
was dark. It was very hard to see. I actually
stood on these tiny little boat bolts and that are
part of the rivets, part of the wall that keep
it together and then I held onto the seal of
the side of the window, which was very sharp as you.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, tore up.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
But yeah, when we got to the top at the
point it was like, okay, I can probably take the
rope off. But it is a really intense section. It's
called the ice shield. And my brother and I, who's
the second half of or maybe the first half of
thirty seconds to Mars because he's the older brother. We
stood on the ice shield, which is maybe four feet
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three and a half four feet wide, and it has
no railing, so you are kind of on the edge
of the earth there above New York City, and we
performed the song and I have to say, you know,
sometimes when you perform a song, you know, for TV
show or whatever, it can feel a little stiff because
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of the constraints of filming and there's no audience. But
it felt incredible. We've played this song up there and
it was like we I don't know, it was the favorite,
my favorite performance of that song we've ever had.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, it was really special. So yeah, Shannon was up
there and he came out. You come out of a capsule,
it looks like it looks like the you know, this
the capsule that comes back from space. It shaped actually
the same way. It has a little hole like on
the side that you climb in and out of. So
when my brother came out of it and he saw
three sixty view of New York Central Park on one
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side Downtown on the other, he was.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Like, oh my god, this is wow.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Same wow, but very cool. The people over there are amazing.
And you know, like I said before, just I couldn't
think of a more fun way to announce the tour.
We're back and a new album, new song, new tour,
So were with it.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And by the way, if you haven't heard Seasons, wait
to hear the song. And the first time we heard
it was what that is fabulous and I'm gonna play
it for you. And it's like we found the clean version,
by the way, which still pierces me off. I wish
we could just use the original version. It makes me mad.
We're gonna move on. But climbing a building being a
hundred stories up, I mean there is As I always say,
there's a thin line between the excitement and fright Which
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side were you on? Were you more excited more frightened?
I mean, oh, I.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Was certainly more excited.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I mean, I've had quite a bit of experience climbing.
I'm a beginning I still consider myself an amateur, you know,
a total beginner climber. But I have climbed a lot.
And I was just in Yosemite right before this, you know,
hanging off a wall. Uh actually with my good friend
Alex Hanald from fri Solo. Oh wow, who's a phenomenal
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person and great athlete. But I you know, for me,
it was it was just excitement. There was one time
when I was standing on the fins, which sure those
kind of art deco pieces that are about a forty
five degree angle on the side or something like that.
But I was standing over there and I, you know,
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it was looking up trying to see as there are
way up the fins and it was too blank. It
was too slippery to climb. But I was standing on
about twelve inches by twelve inches, which was a huge
rest spot. This is on the second day, and I
went to look up and a breeze came and woof
almost knocked me off the side. In that moment, I
was like, oh, I'm up really high. This is pretty scary.
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But for the most part, it was really just it
was incredible. You know, there is a vantage point there
that's pretty unique.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
And when you do.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
On the second day, when we were taking breaks to film,
I would push off sometimes if there was a moment
just for fun and kind of swing out over the
abyss and in those moments, your stomach drops a little bit.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
Yeah, and the studios are never please stop, please stop
doing this. Where any of the movie studios or any
of the people who are.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know, the people that people that rely on you
for their income.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Jared swinging again.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
We did get a call the next day. My producing partner,
Emma Lovebrook, got a call from the studio saying, we
need to talk insurance.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Of course, as you understand that. By the way, if
you're just turning us on, Jared letters here we're talking
about the upcoming tour. I gotta tell you how to
get your tickets pre sale. In a second, we're going
to play the song seasons. When it comes to climbing,
let's just go off the building of just to a
wall and let's talk about just a mountain. My friends
who do climb, they say it's as close to meditation
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as they can get without saying you're meditating because you
are one with the structure and you've got to focus
on nothing but your next step or your next pool, right,
your next climb, climbing pool, and that takes you away
from the whole world. And this is what's great about meditation.
We need to have things like that in our lives.
So is that what climbing does for you or do
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you have other ways to escape this crazy machine that
we're living in.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
No? Absolutely, absolutely, It's one of those things that kind
of cuts the digital leash. You know, gets you away
from your works, from some of the troubles or stresses
in your life, and you don't have a choice but
to be in the moment. And you know when there
are a lot there are things that do that. It's
not just climbing, obviously, but for me, it puts me
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a nature. It's usually a pretty beautiful day because you
have to have temperatures that are not too hot, not
too cold, and usually with some interesting people. A lot
of times you don't have cell service, which is really
nice nice. Yeah, so it's a beautiful thing. It does
give me a chance to be purely in the moment
and it is meditative. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
So when you and your partner, sit down and you
wrote when you wrote the album, which was that in September,
Because I've been listening to this for a little while.
Do you find so writing and performing also a meditative,
a meditation type thing for you where you just like
you're on stage, Let's say at the iHeart Radio Music
Festival and you're singing. What are you thinking about? Do
you think when you're performing? What does one do? We
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don't know what we don't understand?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Interesting, when you're in the best place, you're connected to
the song, the audience is. The funny thing about playing
live is like you record an aum, you put it out,
people listen to it hopefully, and then they make this
you know, it becomes kind of the fabric, the soundtrack
of their lives. And then they come to a show
and they hear you play that song that they've made
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all of these people have made these personal connections to
and you know, one day you hear it in your car,
you're on the radio, you hear it in the grocery store,
you hear it with a friend, you hear it there,
you hear it there. It just becomes part of your
life and then when you show up, everyone shares that
kind of personal, private experience with each other and the
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best moments on stage you're all kind of lost in that.
But sometimes on stage I'm looking at like Row thirteen,
there's a guy who seems a little distracted. I should
maybe put a little more energy that when motivation phone. Yeah,
Oh geez, that guy just yawned over here.
Speaker 6 (16:15):
What I always thought the lights were blinding and you
couldn't see any of that.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Oh no, no, no no, because the lights are facing you,
so I see everything. Oh wow, okay, I see everything.
I see people. I sometimes they see friends at shows
and I'm like, they're on their phone for a really
long time.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Hold on, I'm gonna bust you out. But we're not shut.
I'll get on the microphone and be like, hey, what
are you doing.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
But we're gonna play bark Last time we played MSG,
and we're gonna play Barkley's this time.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Everybody's invited.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I know you go to too many shows, probably, but everyone,
if you're never enough.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
You want to come, you're welcome. I know a guy
can get you tickets.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Your brother, Yeah, tell your brother exactly. By the way,
if you want to see thirty seconds to Mars, they
are doing the major tour. I mean we're talking worldwide, right.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
You can go to live nation dot com. Exclusive presale
going on starts this Thursday morning at ten for twenty
four hours till Friday morning. Use the code iHeart. We're
the guy you know, and you could get a you
can get pre sale. It's the code is iHeart at
livenation dot com. Thank you for coming in today, Jared,
I gotta play this song. I have to share this
song with with our good friends listening because it's really
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that great talk about seasons.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Well, you know, for me, it's the type of song
it makes me. It gives me a sense of nostalgia,
and I love when the songs do that. You know,
it kind of makes me. It makes me think the
summer I just had, or certain parts of my life. Yeah,
look who we got in the house here.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
On. I gotta hear his voice on radio. I gotta
hear your voice.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
He always busts in and ruins our interviews. Get out
of here, I gotta hear your voice.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Hang in a second. I'm listening to you on the
app and it's late.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I gotta on radio.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Hey Tom, I'm interviewing Jared Little can you get out,
can you go? I mean he talks about you and
non stop. Just make out with him. Get it over with. Damn,
we've been making out. We've been doing a little making
out come on sexual attention.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I think we were doing this weekend.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, one night, Jared, one night, Tom and I were
so drunk I subbed his finger at the restaurant for
like thirty minutes.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
It's a nice finger. What do you get.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
You'll keep in mind if you taste his finger, you're
tasting me. And there is that.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
What that was?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
We got to play seasons and Jared, thank you so
much for coming in a little.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Tom about the radio, talk to you.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
We'll talk.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Did you talk about this song after a Place?
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Well, thanks for coming in. Man, it's so good to
see you. And next time you climb a building, let
us know ahead of time because we want we want
to catch you when you fall, or if you.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Fall, there is that you could always come with me.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Wait, did you talk about how you did fall on
the rope saved you?
Speaker 7 (19:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I didn't tell that part, but yeah, there was a
moment where I was It was on the second day
and the first day it was more about climbing it.
I had this amazing cinematographer named Ronn who's just a
legendary mountaineer and climber and cinematographer. But he was up
there hanging off the side next to me on a rope.
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So those guys would take stairs up and then drop down.
I climbed up and was the only person climbing. Just
there's some confusion around that, you know, people like, how
did those people weren't they climbing next to you as
well as they actually weren't. They took the stairs because
they're smart.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
But they the elevator.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, exactly, for the most part. They took the elevator.
Only the last level. They took this there on the
top top part, but yeah, the elevator. So I was
up there, and I was like, in the second to
last glass panel, and you know, the rope is there
because the city made us put the rope there.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Well, they don't want to clean up. They don't want
to send you home in a sponge.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
That is, because you know how long it takes to
clean that trash up sometimes Yeah exactly. So yeah, and
and and I was like, why are we doing it
so early? Well, they don't want anybody underneath you. So anyway,
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I was up there climbing and you know, I have
the rope on and uh in case I fall, but
I'm not using the rope to pull me up, and
I'm climbing with my you know, my own body to
to to to ascend the wall. So anyway, I was
in the second to last panel and I'm kind of
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pulling and we stop to get a shot, and uh,
sometimes you do. That second day was more about filming. Okay,
the helicopters going around. Let's wait a little for a second,
and I'm just hanging. I'm just kind of standing on
this very very thin edge. I think it is a
quarter of an inch for the feet, and the bolt
is about a third deep, so that's what my foot
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was on. Anyway, I'm climbing up and he's asking me
to hold on for a moment, and I'm like, okay, fine,
I hold for a second. And all of a sudden,
I went to reach for that second and last window
and my hands gave out and I popped off.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
The window and I fell.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
So I was glad that I had the ropes, but
that probably was the scariest moment because I knew when
I grabbed onto it. I said, oh my god, my
hands are gone. They were bleeding at that point, and
my muscles were totally shod. I had already climbed at
the day before, and it was very cold, forty mile
an hour winds. It was forty one degrees and it
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was intense.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
Yeah, did your mom see go by when you fell?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Great?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
The good news.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Your brother Shandon was going to come in to day
if you couldn't make it, so we're all good.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Well that's a good thing about having your brother in
the mad he can always cover for you.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Hey, Tom, by the way, who's the president of programming
for I Art? Can you let all the stations they're
listening know that we're running really date, cause came in
and started asking them follow up questions.
Speaker 8 (22:17):
Sure, that's my fault. I don't know why these fixed
stop sets. If you if if you are hard to plays,
have a problem, Tom will blow you out. Just can't
operate like this. Okay, we're gonna take a break. We're
gonna plut the song would come back. But Jared, thank
you for coming in follow up questions?
Speaker 7 (22:34):
Tom stopping Sorry my absolute pleasure, and and I really
appreciate the support and the love and you're playing the song,
and you know, we've had a lot of great performances
over the years, and I look forward to the future.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
It's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Bring him on, Jared, it's so good to see. You
couldn't come come in Elvis Terran. He just keeps opening
his mouth to stand the morning show
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