June 13, 2023 • 16 mins
Star of stage/screen and now podcasting! Jesse talked about 'Dinner's on Me' podcast where he sits down with friends over dinner!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Jesse Tyler Ferguson is here. Hi, Jesse, I've all choked up.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I was looking at my friend who's just amongst all
these balloons in the corner.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Put her in the balloon corner. You will be there
all day, Rachel.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I hope I can find you afterwards.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Balloon saloon, They're everywhere. I love them. Well, Jesse, thank
you for coming in today.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well, so we can talk about many things. We could
talk about TV shows. We could have talked about Broadway plays.
We could talk about podcasts. Let's do all all of them.
Where do you want to start?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Wherever you want to start?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Let's okay. Well, podcast podcasts have been uh the topic
in our room for so long now, and now especially lately,
they're like, we're all heating up. I'm starting mine. I heard,
so here we go. Don't be so resisting. I love it.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
A long time.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I know this is ridiculous. He is really the track
marks on the floor where it's.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
No I'll tell you what it is, and I'm assuming
you feel the same way. It's out of the comfort zone.
It's something that's different. Even though we interview people here
every day, it's a different.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Thing, like, we're really good at us. You should not
be worried. I have, like I can have some imposter
syndrome because this is not what I do. But you
having that is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Okay, slap me. I mean, I don't know. You know,
we interview people, but we have a clock ticking now
and we have to get things done by a certain time. Podcasts,
in the podcast world, you can.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Long form do whatever you want, and you can curse.
You can curse. Oh, absolutely anything you want. You could
do it pantless. I don't recommend it, right, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You start. So after we're done with the show today,
will you stick around and do my podcasting?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah? I think that's why I'm here.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, okay, this is just like the you know, the appetizer, Okay,
the big event.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I like how I just like Coily set you up, Like, oh, sure,
thanks for the invitation to be on your podcast. It
was already planned. It was already planned you guys. Anyway,
let's talk about on Me with Jesse Tyler Ferguson. Yes,
so you did mention to someone. It is a little
out of your comfort zone, but you enjoy pushing the boundaries.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I too, I've had this career that I'm very lucky
to have had, where I have gone into places that
I have never imagined going. I thought I was just
going to be a theater actor, and then I got
the opportunity to come to LA and be a part
of a show. This is actually before Modern Family, and
I was doing some TV work and I was like, well,
this is fun, and then Modern Family happened that was
(02:30):
not expected at all. Then when that was wrapping up,
I was asked to be the host of HGTV's reboot
of Extreme Makeover Home Edition, right like I was the
new Tie Pennington. I was like, well, this doesn't make
any sense, but if someone thinks that I'd be good
at this, like, let's try it. I had a great
time doing that, you know, I just I keep getting offered.
The Cocaine Bear is a perfect example. Who would have
(02:52):
ever thought let's put the guy from Modern Family up
in a tree and have him get mauled by a
coked up bear. Not me, but someone thought that was
a gonna. Like I was doing these fun things that
I never thought I would ever get to do, and
doing my own stunts since like you know, a podcast
just felt like another like thing that I never thought
I would be good at or want to do, and
(03:13):
I was like, well, let me just try it. And
I'm having a great time doing it, so I think
I'm pretty good at it.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
What were your expectations and how were they shattered when
she started doing it? I mean, what does it turned
out to be like for you?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That's honestly been I feel like you're asking me these
questions because you're like, please tell me it's gonna be okay. Yeah,
and I'm here for that. Okay, It's better than I
expected it to be.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Truly. I was like, I don't need another full time job.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I love acting. I don't want to do something that
takes me away from that. But this, well, we are
in a writer strike right now, so there's no one's
acting right now, at least I'm not. Maybe they just
set up the writer strike to get me to stop
acting it. It's all you, Oh God, how can we
get in to stop doing that thing? But anyway, it's
something fun to do, and I'm really enjoying these conversations
(03:55):
that I'm having with people. You get to have these
conversations all the time, but like, I really enjoyed the
research part of it, and a lot of my guests
in my first season are people that I've already known
for a bit of time and I'm getting to learn,
you know, on a deeper level.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I love that. So it's dinner on me.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Dinner's on me.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Ye, dinner's on me. So I'm assuming there's restaurants involved. Yes,
and you're sitting at tables and restaurants and they bring
food out.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yes, you eat that free. Yes, you do have the
concept of dinner down pat.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Okay, I think that through.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I never brought you a guest yet where you were like, Nope,
I don't want to talk to them.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
No, not yet, No, No, I think I'd be willing
to talk to anyone. There's been a few people who
have come to me they said, would you would you
be interested in doing this person?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Oh that sounded so low.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I it's you're interested in interviewing this person in a
podcast format, that's to be more specific, And you know,
I was like, yeah, why not? I mean, I I
don't know them personally, but like, I would love to
get to know them better.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, it's your opportunity to get to know someone new.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I'm all about, you know, if they're willing to talk
to me, I'm willing to talk to them.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So is it about food and I mean going out
and eating or.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
What I guess a little bit. I mean we do
talk about you know, I wrote a cookbook. I'm part
of the culinary world and and sort of like an
and sort of in a fringe sort of way, like
I hosted the James Beard Awards a few times. I
have a great reverence for chefs in the culinary world.
So this was a kind of a marriage of those
of me liking to get to know people but also
(05:21):
enjoying food and going out. And so we do go
to go to restaurants. You hear the waiter comes to
the table. Sometimes it's a chef, you know, they talk
about the specials we order. It's kind of like, you know,
I'm the person at the restaurant that's like craning my
neck to see what other people are ordering. And so
like it's it's kind of like a fly on the
wall thing for for our guests. They get to sort
of listen to us eating and our cocktails involved they
(05:42):
can be see.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
That was another concept we were thinking about in podcast world.
Is day drinking?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Sure, Yeah, because it's It makes me go to bed
very early exactly, usually sleep by two then, and I'm
thinking I'm already doing it, paid.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
For it well as we put a microphone and someone
say why not? The guy on before you has an
incredible and incredible following on Instagram. Brian Can't Stop Eating
is his Okay, you got to follow this guy. He
goes every little and big and major and never heard
of before restaurant in New York City and now he's
going to other countries and he just makes the food
(06:18):
look so great and he actually quit his full time
job and this is what he does.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, that's a job that we can all do.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You guys, don't follow Brian Can't Stop Eating and I
wanted to do Elvis Can't Stop Drinking. I think that's
the show. Are you going to come and be a
part of this? Say yes, I.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Don't think I'm going to be able to be a
part of that show.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
So let's talk about interviewing since this is a new
thing basically for you. Yeah, I mean, so what have
you learned so far that you're like, wow, this is
kind of great. It's a conversation. But I have to
be as an interviewer is someone who moves it on.
There's there's a little science to it.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
There's a little I guess I'm still kind of figuring
that out. And if you want to give me any tips,
I'm happy to take them.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I wouldn't as an example, Yeah, I actually like wanted
to retract that happening.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Please do.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
But I feel like I've been doing I've been on
the other side of this for so long. I've been
doing you know, I like twelve thirteen, fourteen years have
been able to be you know, in the in the
other seats. So like I've learned a lot just from osmosis.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I mean, it's all about funding your own style, I think.
And the great thing about podcast is you do have
that long format. I'm you're not like under the clock,
Like you keep looking at the clock and it makes
me nervous. So I actually have like three more minutes.
I'm like, I gotta get it all in.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
No podcast, no talking, worry about that.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So and you can edit stuff out it's not are
we live?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh shoot see, I mean, like who knows, this could
have gone terribly wrong, but like in a podcast, we
could have edited.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
All that out.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Absolutely, you can make yourself like a genius. Oh but
we do have this dump button here. Well that means
that just dropped. If you drop a nasty word, test
it no, no, because sometimes sometimes it works.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah yeah, but in a.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Podcast, you don't need a dumb button.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
What does that do it?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Actually, we are delayed like a certain amount of seconds.
So if you push that button, it goes back in.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
The hatch and loss.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, it is that. It's the lost hatch. You push
a button and we go back in time. It's kind
of weird.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
He just had a great idea, though, Why didn't we
install a trap door under that seat?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Dropped?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Ellen, it is into the alligator.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, this kind of darks so fast.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
We were talking about Modern family the other day and
my favorite there was one scene with you guys, and
that made me laugh until I think I spotted my blouse. Okay,
you and Cam on the airplane and a lady behind
you looks at you tube and says, look at those
cream puffs the pilot.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
That's like the first introduction time.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I didn't know that. Yeah, anyway, so look at those
cream puffs and you of course get all did you
look over and there's like two cream puffs on a plate, or.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Look at the baby with those cream puffs. The baby's
playing with cream puffs. That's right.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
It just made me laugh so hard, and so so
I'm thinking, if I listened to a podcast, there's gotta
be there's gotta be some humor, and there's gotta be
some fun. Do you get serious in there too.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yes, not like deadly serious, but like I talked to
Kristen Bell, like the room just got very quiet. Oh yeah,
but like I talked to Kristen Bell about mental health.
I talked to Padma Lockshmi about culinary appropriation, which was
a really interesting conversation. But then it's all wrapped in
like a very lighthearted conversation as well. We're not we're
not getting super deep, and you know it's not that's
not the type of show it is. You know, we're
(09:38):
also having a dinner. So it's just like I find
that people over a meal just open up in a
way that they wouldn't normally if they're sitting in like
an interview situation.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Is there anything you won't eat? Because I know if
they put anything like fish or mayonnaise in front of me,
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Even fish or mayonnaise. Okay, well I will have both
of those.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's the fish man.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Mine's like mine's like more like tripe, like you know,
like like stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
If you're on your stop is fishing mayonnaise? Like you're
not even getting anywhere near the restaurant that serves trip No,
thank you?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
No. No.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So if you're doing this in a restaurant, is the
restaurant closed down while you're doing this or other people
just eating and listening to you?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Occasionally it's a mix of both. It depends what the
restaurant is and like what they're set up is.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Sometimes we've been there during full service. Sometimes they open
up a little bit early for us.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's it's the sound engineers have a fun time with
this show. Everything is a completely different situation.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, people seeing you and coming over in the middle
of it, like Hi, I don't mean.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I think when you have like two microphones in front
of you, like and like a whole bunch of producers
around you with cords and people are a little afraid.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
To like approach you.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
But yes, yeah, well so far I've had Kesha, which
was a trip.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yes, she was awesome. No, talented. I saw her concert,
but you have let her in your lung still still yeah, yeah,
five years ago.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
But she's also about her need to touch others from
from other glex. She's ready to be kidnapped in probe,
you know what I'm saying. Wow, And she got to
hold this guy's skull like a dead murderer's skull, and
she played with anyway. It was an hour long these conversations.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I literally have the same stories. What are we going
to talk about?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
It was fascinating to have the time to hear her
stories and how she really rolls around in and loves
being unique. But to be able to stop down and
like ask her why, well, why do you think you
you feel this way? When they were And that's what
the podcast format can often.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I think a lot of times talent, I call myself talent,
your talent. But like the people that you're interviewing, they
appreciate that that more of a deep dive into these
stories because we don't get an opportunity to tell them
a lot, you know, at least on regular interview shows.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Are you familiar with Mo Rocca? Of course he was
here yesterday for the podcast We Love Love.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Moroacca tested for Mitchell Pritchett and Modern Family but did
not get it. Morocca Kendal and I knew each other
because he was a part of the cast of the
twenty fifth annual Putnam County Spelling Be Me, which is
the show I did on body exactly that he joined
the cast after I joined it. But then I knew
(12:13):
that when I was testing from Modern Family, that there
was a two other people that were testing and they
submitted tape. They were testing from New York. And I
was leaving the room after my in person test and
they were setting up the next thing, And as I
was leaving the room, I saw mo RockA on the
screen saying the first lines of the scene for Modern
Family of Mitchell Purchett.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I love him. He's so talented.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And you know what, he's not Mitchell Purchett. He's one
of those guys you could just have eighteen at nineteen
hour conversations. Yeah, he's brilliant. Yeah, he's just great. So
he's he's my second guest on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
That's a good guest.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So and you're my third.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Wow, you're really on a roll.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I save, by the way, just turning us on it's
Jesse Tider Ferguson. His podcast is called Dinner on Me
with Jesse Tyler Ferguson. How many episodes deep are you?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Do?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You know, I'm committed to doing twenty four and I've
done about sixteen at this point. Oh my god, I
think five are the Fred Armison episode drops today?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
How was he amazing?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
He had done an episode of Modern Family. Everyone in
the first season of this podcast. If there's a second one,
who knows what will happen. But like, are people that
I've met in some capacity. So I just made a
lot of personal calls its first season. But I mean
I also realized, like how many fun, fancy people I
have gotten to meet because I've gotten a really great
roster this first season.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
It's Dinners on Me by the way, I left, and
everyone in the room is putting up apostrophy essays.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I'm like, ah, I was gonna let it slide.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I still have your bow tie company.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Sort of, Yes, I still had the bow ties you barmis.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. That was so long ago.
My yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah. It's now morphed into another foundation called Pronoun, but
we we do sell proper ex still and because there
some kinds of part of that yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
So recently on Broadway and Take Me Out, which, uh,
what a great play. You were fantastic, by the way,
thank you. So I was telling them a story. My
nephew did the Dallas version of really Yeah, and but
he was one of the players. So his mother, my sister, Yes,
sat in the audience and watched her son's penis is
(14:23):
going back and forth.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yes and yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And it was just kind of an odd thing for
her to watch her weird because last time she was
near it was when it was much smaller.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yes, I'm assuming she was, I hope. So what a.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Great what a great a great play. That must have
been a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
It is a great play.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
There is some nudi in bof I was not one
of the people that have to be nude in the
in the show, I was one few characters that's kept
his pants on right to my chagrin. But it was
a very profound experience. The show itself won the Tony
Award for Best Revival. I wanted Tony word for Best
Supporting Actor, which was a thank you, A very big
(15:03):
dream of mine to.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Have a Tony Awards.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Where do you keep it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
You know, it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
My husband, Justin is a producer and started producing stuff
on Broadway a few years ago and won a Tony
Award like on his first show out, and I was like,
I've been in this business for twenty years and you
dip your toe into the theater world and they throw
you a Tony Award? How dare you? And since then
he's won two before I won even one. So I
(15:28):
finally got my Tony Award. He has two, I have one,
and so we just put I just put in between
his two Tony Awards.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
That's where sandwich.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, thank you for coming in today.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Happy to be here, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
So many people ever died to come in and say
hi to you, including Daniel Sunspec.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I know I signed up. What are those things called Popco's? Yeah,
they never made any of the kids from Modern Family.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
They only made you guys.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I know, I know there's a special one that's like
just me and Cam in the same box.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
That's a collector's item. Yes, excellent.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Heaven you here and I can't wait to get you
on the PODK cast in twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, just stick around.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
What are you gonna do? You wanna go to like
catch a movie shot.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I saw some Virgil's barbecue out there.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Do it, do it? Get smokey. Jesse Tyler Ferguson. It's
a podcast called Dinners on Me with Jesse Tider Ferguson.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Thank you for Dinners with a it's not Dinners with
the tea divis.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Thank you for coming in happy, it's a pleasure to
have you here. We'll be back after this. I've listened
to you guys literally since I've sticked years old. Wow,
this is the best day of my life. Telvistran in
the Morning show
Jesse Tyler Ferguson is here. Hi, Jesse, I've all choked up.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
I was looking at my friend who's just amongst all
these balloons in the corner.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Put her in the balloon corner. You will be there
all day, Rachel.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I hope I can find you afterwards.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Balloon saloon, They're everywhere. I love them. Well, Jesse, thank
you for coming in today.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Well, so we can talk about many things. We could
talk about TV shows. We could have talked about Broadway plays.
We could talk about podcasts. Let's do all all of them.
Where do you want to start?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Wherever you want to start?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Let's okay. Well, podcast podcasts have been uh the topic
in our room for so long now, and now especially lately,
they're like, we're all heating up. I'm starting mine. I heard,
so here we go. Don't be so resisting. I love it.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
A long time.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
I know this is ridiculous. He is really the track
marks on the floor where it's.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
No I'll tell you what it is, and I'm assuming
you feel the same way. It's out of the comfort zone.
It's something that's different. Even though we interview people here
every day, it's a different.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Thing, like, we're really good at us. You should not
be worried. I have, like I can have some imposter
syndrome because this is not what I do. But you
having that is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Okay, slap me. I mean, I don't know. You know,
we interview people, but we have a clock ticking now
and we have to get things done by a certain time. Podcasts,
in the podcast world, you can.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Long form do whatever you want, and you can curse.
You can curse. Oh, absolutely anything you want. You could
do it pantless. I don't recommend it, right, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You start. So after we're done with the show today,
will you stick around and do my podcasting?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah? I think that's why I'm here.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, okay, this is just like the you know, the appetizer, Okay,
the big event.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I like how I just like Coily set you up, Like, oh, sure,
thanks for the invitation to be on your podcast. It
was already planned. It was already planned you guys. Anyway,
let's talk about on Me with Jesse Tyler Ferguson. Yes,
so you did mention to someone. It is a little
out of your comfort zone, but you enjoy pushing the boundaries.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
I too, I've had this career that I'm very lucky
to have had, where I have gone into places that
I have never imagined going. I thought I was just
going to be a theater actor, and then I got
the opportunity to come to LA and be a part
of a show. This is actually before Modern Family, and
I was doing some TV work and I was like, well,
this is fun, and then Modern Family happened that was
(02:30):
not expected at all. Then when that was wrapping up,
I was asked to be the host of HGTV's reboot
of Extreme Makeover Home Edition, right like I was the
new Tie Pennington. I was like, well, this doesn't make
any sense, but if someone thinks that I'd be good
at this, like, let's try it. I had a great
time doing that, you know, I just I keep getting offered.
The Cocaine Bear is a perfect example. Who would have
(02:52):
ever thought let's put the guy from Modern Family up
in a tree and have him get mauled by a
coked up bear. Not me, but someone thought that was
a gonna. Like I was doing these fun things that
I never thought I would ever get to do, and
doing my own stunts since like you know, a podcast
just felt like another like thing that I never thought
I would be good at or want to do, and
(03:13):
I was like, well, let me just try it. And
I'm having a great time doing it, so I think
I'm pretty good at it.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
What were your expectations and how were they shattered when
she started doing it? I mean, what does it turned
out to be like for you?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
That's honestly been I feel like you're asking me these
questions because you're like, please tell me it's gonna be okay. Yeah,
and I'm here for that. Okay, It's better than I
expected it to be.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Truly. I was like, I don't need another full time job.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I love acting. I don't want to do something that
takes me away from that. But this, well, we are
in a writer strike right now, so there's no one's
acting right now, at least I'm not. Maybe they just
set up the writer strike to get me to stop
acting it. It's all you, Oh God, how can we
get in to stop doing that thing? But anyway, it's
something fun to do, and I'm really enjoying these conversations
(03:55):
that I'm having with people. You get to have these
conversations all the time, but like, I really enjoyed the
research part of it, and a lot of my guests
in my first season are people that I've already known
for a bit of time and I'm getting to learn,
you know, on a deeper level.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I love that. So it's dinner on me.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Dinner's on me.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Ye, dinner's on me. So I'm assuming there's restaurants involved. Yes,
and you're sitting at tables and restaurants and they bring
food out.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yes, you eat that free. Yes, you do have the
concept of dinner down pat.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Okay, I think that through.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I never brought you a guest yet where you were like, Nope,
I don't want to talk to them.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
No, not yet, No, No, I think I'd be willing
to talk to anyone. There's been a few people who
have come to me they said, would you would you
be interested in doing this person?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Oh that sounded so low.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I it's you're interested in interviewing this person in a
podcast format, that's to be more specific, And you know,
I was like, yeah, why not? I mean, I I
don't know them personally, but like, I would love to
get to know them better.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, it's your opportunity to get to know someone new.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I'm all about, you know, if they're willing to talk
to me, I'm willing to talk to them.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
So is it about food and I mean going out
and eating or.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
What I guess a little bit. I mean we do
talk about you know, I wrote a cookbook. I'm part
of the culinary world and and sort of like an
and sort of in a fringe sort of way, like
I hosted the James Beard Awards a few times. I
have a great reverence for chefs in the culinary world.
So this was a kind of a marriage of those
of me liking to get to know people but also
(05:21):
enjoying food and going out. And so we do go
to go to restaurants. You hear the waiter comes to
the table. Sometimes it's a chef, you know, they talk
about the specials we order. It's kind of like, you know,
I'm the person at the restaurant that's like craning my
neck to see what other people are ordering. And so
like it's it's kind of like a fly on the
wall thing for for our guests. They get to sort
of listen to us eating and our cocktails involved they
(05:42):
can be see.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
That was another concept we were thinking about in podcast world.
Is day drinking?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Sure, Yeah, because it's It makes me go to bed
very early exactly, usually sleep by two then, and I'm
thinking I'm already doing it, paid.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
For it well as we put a microphone and someone
say why not? The guy on before you has an
incredible and incredible following on Instagram. Brian Can't Stop Eating
is his Okay, you got to follow this guy. He
goes every little and big and major and never heard
of before restaurant in New York City and now he's
going to other countries and he just makes the food
(06:18):
look so great and he actually quit his full time
job and this is what he does.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, that's a job that we can all do.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You guys, don't follow Brian Can't Stop Eating and I
wanted to do Elvis Can't Stop Drinking. I think that's
the show. Are you going to come and be a
part of this? Say yes, I.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Don't think I'm going to be able to be a
part of that show.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
So let's talk about interviewing since this is a new
thing basically for you. Yeah, I mean, so what have
you learned so far that you're like, wow, this is
kind of great. It's a conversation. But I have to
be as an interviewer is someone who moves it on.
There's there's a little science to it.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
There's a little I guess I'm still kind of figuring
that out. And if you want to give me any tips,
I'm happy to take them.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I wouldn't as an example, Yeah, I actually like wanted
to retract that happening.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Please do.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
But I feel like I've been doing I've been on
the other side of this for so long. I've been
doing you know, I like twelve thirteen, fourteen years have
been able to be you know, in the in the
other seats. So like I've learned a lot just from osmosis.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I mean, it's all about funding your own style, I think.
And the great thing about podcast is you do have
that long format. I'm you're not like under the clock,
Like you keep looking at the clock and it makes
me nervous. So I actually have like three more minutes.
I'm like, I gotta get it all in.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
No podcast, no talking, worry about that.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So and you can edit stuff out it's not are
we live?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh shoot see, I mean, like who knows, this could
have gone terribly wrong, but like in a podcast, we
could have edited.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
All that out.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Absolutely, you can make yourself like a genius. Oh but
we do have this dump button here. Well that means
that just dropped. If you drop a nasty word, test
it no, no, because sometimes sometimes it works.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah yeah, but in a.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Podcast, you don't need a dumb button.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
What does that do it?
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Actually, we are delayed like a certain amount of seconds.
So if you push that button, it goes back in.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
The hatch and loss.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, it is that. It's the lost hatch. You push
a button and we go back in time. It's kind
of weird.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
He just had a great idea, though, Why didn't we
install a trap door under that seat?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Dropped?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Ellen, it is into the alligator.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, this kind of darks so fast.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
We were talking about Modern family the other day and
my favorite there was one scene with you guys, and
that made me laugh until I think I spotted my blouse. Okay,
you and Cam on the airplane and a lady behind
you looks at you tube and says, look at those
cream puffs the pilot.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
That's like the first introduction time.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I didn't know that. Yeah, anyway, so look at those
cream puffs and you of course get all did you
look over and there's like two cream puffs on a plate, or.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Look at the baby with those cream puffs. The baby's
playing with cream puffs. That's right.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
It just made me laugh so hard, and so so
I'm thinking, if I listened to a podcast, there's gotta
be there's gotta be some humor, and there's gotta be
some fun. Do you get serious in there too.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yes, not like deadly serious, but like I talked to
Kristen Bell, like the room just got very quiet. Oh yeah,
but like I talked to Kristen Bell about mental health.
I talked to Padma Lockshmi about culinary appropriation, which was
a really interesting conversation. But then it's all wrapped in
like a very lighthearted conversation as well. We're not we're
not getting super deep, and you know it's not that's
not the type of show it is. You know, we're
(09:38):
also having a dinner. So it's just like I find
that people over a meal just open up in a
way that they wouldn't normally if they're sitting in like
an interview situation.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Is there anything you won't eat? Because I know if
they put anything like fish or mayonnaise in front of me,
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Even fish or mayonnaise. Okay, well I will have both
of those.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
It's the fish man.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Mine's like mine's like more like tripe, like you know,
like like stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
If you're on your stop is fishing mayonnaise? Like you're
not even getting anywhere near the restaurant that serves trip No,
thank you?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
No. No.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So if you're doing this in a restaurant, is the
restaurant closed down while you're doing this or other people
just eating and listening to you?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Occasionally it's a mix of both. It depends what the
restaurant is and like what they're set up is.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Sometimes we've been there during full service. Sometimes they open
up a little bit early for us.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's it's the sound engineers have a fun time with
this show. Everything is a completely different situation.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, people seeing you and coming over in the middle
of it, like Hi, I don't mean.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I think when you have like two microphones in front
of you, like and like a whole bunch of producers
around you with cords and people are a little afraid.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
To like approach you.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
But yes, yeah, well so far I've had Kesha, which
was a trip.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yes, she was awesome. No, talented. I saw her concert,
but you have let her in your lung still still yeah, yeah,
five years ago.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
But she's also about her need to touch others from
from other glex. She's ready to be kidnapped in probe,
you know what I'm saying. Wow, And she got to
hold this guy's skull like a dead murderer's skull, and
she played with anyway. It was an hour long these conversations.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I literally have the same stories. What are we going
to talk about?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
It was fascinating to have the time to hear her
stories and how she really rolls around in and loves
being unique. But to be able to stop down and
like ask her why, well, why do you think you
you feel this way? When they were And that's what
the podcast format can often.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I think a lot of times talent, I call myself talent,
your talent. But like the people that you're interviewing, they
appreciate that that more of a deep dive into these
stories because we don't get an opportunity to tell them
a lot, you know, at least on regular interview shows.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Are you familiar with Mo Rocca? Of course he was
here yesterday for the podcast We Love Love.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Moroacca tested for Mitchell Pritchett and Modern Family but did
not get it. Morocca Kendal and I knew each other
because he was a part of the cast of the
twenty fifth annual Putnam County Spelling Be Me, which is
the show I did on body exactly that he joined
the cast after I joined it. But then I knew
(12:13):
that when I was testing from Modern Family, that there
was a two other people that were testing and they
submitted tape. They were testing from New York. And I
was leaving the room after my in person test and
they were setting up the next thing, And as I
was leaving the room, I saw mo RockA on the
screen saying the first lines of the scene for Modern
Family of Mitchell Purchett.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
I love him. He's so talented.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And you know what, he's not Mitchell Purchett. He's one
of those guys you could just have eighteen at nineteen
hour conversations. Yeah, he's brilliant. Yeah, he's just great. So
he's he's my second guest on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
That's a good guest.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So and you're my third.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Wow, you're really on a roll.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I save, by the way, just turning us on it's
Jesse Tider Ferguson. His podcast is called Dinner on Me
with Jesse Tyler Ferguson. How many episodes deep are you?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Do?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
You know, I'm committed to doing twenty four and I've
done about sixteen at this point. Oh my god, I
think five are the Fred Armison episode drops today?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
How was he amazing?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:17):
He had done an episode of Modern Family. Everyone in
the first season of this podcast. If there's a second one,
who knows what will happen. But like, are people that
I've met in some capacity. So I just made a
lot of personal calls its first season. But I mean
I also realized, like how many fun, fancy people I
have gotten to meet because I've gotten a really great
roster this first season.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
It's Dinners on Me by the way, I left, and
everyone in the room is putting up apostrophy essays.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I'm like, ah, I was gonna let it slide.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I still have your bow tie company.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Sort of, Yes, I still had the bow ties you barmis.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. That was so long ago.
My yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Yeah. It's now morphed into another foundation called Pronoun, but
we we do sell proper ex still and because there
some kinds of part of that yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
So recently on Broadway and Take Me Out, which, uh,
what a great play. You were fantastic, by the way,
thank you. So I was telling them a story. My
nephew did the Dallas version of really Yeah, and but
he was one of the players. So his mother, my sister, Yes,
sat in the audience and watched her son's penis is
(14:23):
going back and forth.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Yes and yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
And it was just kind of an odd thing for
her to watch her weird because last time she was
near it was when it was much smaller.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yes, I'm assuming she was, I hope. So what a.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Great what a great a great play. That must have
been a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
It is a great play.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
There is some nudi in bof I was not one
of the people that have to be nude in the
in the show, I was one few characters that's kept
his pants on right to my chagrin. But it was
a very profound experience. The show itself won the Tony
Award for Best Revival. I wanted Tony word for Best
Supporting Actor, which was a thank you, A very big
(15:03):
dream of mine to.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Have a Tony Awards.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Where do you keep it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
You know, it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
My husband, Justin is a producer and started producing stuff
on Broadway a few years ago and won a Tony
Award like on his first show out, and I was like,
I've been in this business for twenty years and you
dip your toe into the theater world and they throw
you a Tony Award? How dare you? And since then
he's won two before I won even one. So I
(15:28):
finally got my Tony Award. He has two, I have one,
and so we just put I just put in between
his two Tony Awards.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
That's where sandwich.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, thank you for coming in today.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Happy to be here, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
So many people ever died to come in and say
hi to you, including Daniel Sunspec.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I know I signed up. What are those things called Popco's? Yeah,
they never made any of the kids from Modern Family.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
They only made you guys.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I know, I know there's a special one that's like
just me and Cam in the same box.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
That's a collector's item. Yes, excellent.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Heaven you here and I can't wait to get you
on the PODK cast in twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, just stick around.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
What are you gonna do? You wanna go to like
catch a movie shot.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I saw some Virgil's barbecue out there.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Do it, do it? Get smokey. Jesse Tyler Ferguson. It's
a podcast called Dinners on Me with Jesse Tider Ferguson.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Thank you for Dinners with a it's not Dinners with
the tea divis.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Thank you for coming in happy, it's a pleasure to
have you here. We'll be back after this. I've listened
to you guys literally since I've sticked years old. Wow,
this is the best day of my life. Telvistran in
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