March 6, 2024 • 19 mins
Brent Smith and Zach Meyer from Shinedown stop by the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge to talk all about the success of their single, "Symptom of Being Human".
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge, Shine Down of course,
Brent Smith, Zach Myers, going back to two thousand and
nine for second chance and of course before that symptom
of being human? Why is everyone falling over it? I
think we're okay. I think we're okay. Yeah, so messed
up from their their sleep aid, so you know we've
got things to talk about. That was amazing. See, I
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don't know, you know, here's an issue I have with
you guys. Turn them on. I don't hear him. I
only hear him. Now we're on. Now what's happening? This
is going on everyone? They shouldn't let us run this stuff.
Look at all these buttons. That's a lot of buttons.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Coming in here.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Drafts a lot of buttons for this early in the
morning too.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
No, no, no one heard that. No one heard that
at all. It is a family show.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And maybe Zach will agree with me this with about this, Brent,
when you speak, you sound like you sound when you sing.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I've heard that before.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You have that, you have that same What do you
call it?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It's I call it me calling our travel agents saying
I don't want to be on the same floor as
him of a hotel.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
He is loud.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I'm also like, if you have an accent, usually when
you sing, the accent leaves. But that doesn't happen with you.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
You.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
We still hear your accent.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
The girl from the Bronx, Yeah, I love the Bronx. Tennessee.
It's the Tennessee. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The draw is always a little bit heavier in the morning, right, yeah,
well but y'all it's a little heavier in the morning.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You know, from Texas. When I first moved to New York,
I would say, y'all kinney, right, yeah, how did you
know that?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I'm smart?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Oh my god. He researches everything. So I mean when
I first moved here, I used to use y'all and
we're gonna, we're fixing to go to the restaurant. People
looked at me like I was I was from Texas.
I guess they were accurate. Technically, you are from Texas.
May I read some texts? Sure? Yes, stupendous. Tell me
why I'm crying now? What a way to start my wind.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Everybody's crying this morning, but they're happy tears, so good.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Thank you. Shindan loved them. That was my wedding song.
I love them. I love hearing them on my station.
You were unlocking memory? What are They're freaking awesome? Listening
to Second Chances bringing me to tears reminds me of
simpler times when I first discovered Shine Down, Thank You.
It's not very often you hear an artists the same
live as they do on a recorded song. That was
so good I skipped my exit listening to them all
(02:15):
the way to work. Yeah, sorry about that. So there's
a there's some negative there. Can we can? We can?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We take you all with us everywhere, especially with that screen.
Just build up our confidence on a daily basis. Man,
I would feel great will all the time. You don't
understand the way the studios laid out. They can see
the screen. There are sometimes we have guests on. We
have to turn it off.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yes, oh no, what do you get them out of
the studio?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'll never I won't mention the name sure Kitty Ki Kiddy, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So the Wit and Usher just playing in front of
like one hundred and twenty five million people.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
This was years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
That was years years ago. His new stuff is long.
I think his old stuff is too. It's old stuff
is great too. But the other day I heard some
of his news track. He's always had incredible, just amazing
sounding recordings. He has a great team. His stuff always
sounds fresh and cool. You know, I know, Brent, you
you were really into thrash metal. I was at a
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certain point in time. I still am, right, Yeah, I'm
into everything. But then was your dad that introduced you
to a whole other world. I mean soon we introduced
you to lick.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah. Like when I was fourteen years old, I was
really into like punk rock and UK punk rock and
things of that nature and thrash grind core.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I was an angsty kid and my dad came into
my room one day and U he goes, Son, I
have no idea why all these people are so mad,
because it's a very angst driven and what have you.
And he gave me a tape and I didn't really
think anything about it, and I threw it off into
the corner. And a couple of weeks later, I was
rummaging through my room and I found it and I
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put it in and it was a guy named Otis Redding,
and so Otis Redding got me the al Green, which
got me to Percy Sledge, Sam Cook, Marvin Gaye. Marvin
Gaye got me to Nina Simone, el Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday.
So he opened up this whole world of motown and
R and B and rhythm and blues and so and
Zach's from Memphis, so I mean, he knows all about it.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
So this is what got you into music?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I mean yeah to a point. I mean I think
me and Zach at birth knew what we wanted to do.
We haven't, you know, we don't have a plan. B Yeah,
this is this is it.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
This is it? So Zach, what was what was it
that like buttered your biscuit When it comes to music,
blues first, Like.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, blues was the big thing. Being from Memphis too,
It's easy, right, that's like the thing. And then I
got into again otis reading soul singers like that. Youtwo
is probably my favorite band of all time. So, you know,
getting into songwriting was the big thing for me. So
because blues music is like there's not a lot of
fantastic songwriting. There's a couple of great blue songs, but
there's not a ton of like great songs. So when
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I got into when I got into songwriting.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Was you two probably is really, do you guys get
the feeling that being from the South brings up more
honesty when it comes to storytelling through music. I don't know,
because Froggy, who's not with us now, he's he's a
program director of a country station in Jacksonville doing very
well the country at Florida. Absolutely okay, the country music,
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the music, the artists they meet in their format, Yeah,
they always come across as just so authentic and your
music that is people they describe Shinda as being authentic
from the heart, like just unaddited, just for the lost tuff.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I think that's what I think, that's our mo I
think that you know, we always say you can full
some of the people some of the time.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You can't fool all the people all the time. So like,
why not.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
When we go on to write a song, our basic
plays a great way of putting these like you know,
he's like, sometimes I wish we did. He's like, but
we don't have a Jack and Die in Like we didn't.
We write songs about kind of what we're going through, right,
you know what I mean at that time, And I
think that's a great way.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
To put it.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I was reading that you don't go into the studio
because of trends and stuff like that. You go into
the studio when you have something to say.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, I mean, you can't walk intough it. I mean,
at least for us, we've never walked into an environment
where we're writing a song or putting a record together
and doing it because we want to be famous. We're
doing it because we have something to say. And on
the days that you don't have something to say, don't
go to the studio.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Maybe we should we should do that here. You mean
you're saying we should, we should like what.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
We do, I'll tell you what like, Well, you know,
we can do a residency here. In fact, we'll come
in whenever you guys and girls don't.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Want to do so, Yeah, we'll try and figure out
the board, you know, and we'll take it from there.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
So the new music, does it have a new sound
or are we sticking to sort of the classic shine down?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
We don't necessarily have. We don't ever put handcuffs on us.
And in regards to that.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
We call it a no lane highway. So you just
kind of go wherever you want and wherever it takes us.
And yeah, we don't you know, to me, a good
song is a good song is a good song. The
genre doesn't matter. A good song is going to hit you.
It doesn't matter what kind of music you like. So
I don't you know, I don't know. I don't think
we're going to make like a traditional poker record or anything.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
But well, you know, we also have to.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You got to understand something too. For us, the way
that we see it is, I mean, especially now, the
evolution of people being so open minded in regards to
not looking at for me necessarily like, it doesn't matter
if it's metal music, country music, pop music, rap music,
rock music. You know, it should be about all music
if you have a message, and that's always a primary
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thing with us, but you should be able to evolve
as an artist. We're lucky our fan base has always
allowed us to be ourselves. So and for us, we
have one boss in this band and it just happens
to be everybody in the audience. But I love where
music is going now and how open minded people are.
I mean, we're a prime example of that crossing. You know.
Back with Second Chance, we cross five formats. We're in
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the middle of crossing you know, five different formats right now.
With a symptom of being human. You are giving us
an amazing opportunity this morning to be able to be
played for your audience. So we appreciate just being here
and you've given us the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Wow, just turning us on. Of course, this is Brent
and Zach from Shine Down. They performed a few minutes
ago and you missed it? Where the hell were you?
You can always listen to us on demand later.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I want to know if you could pick another artist
or a band or something and another genre of music
that you would like to collab with, who would it be?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh my god, there's a ton of people.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
That's tough.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Uh sure, definitely, dude. We do track with Usher any day.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Oh, any day for sure. Oh that's our boy, that's
our He played with us every night. We brought him
out on tour with us last year, two years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
He's the best, nice, the sweetest guy and but he
you you see similarities between the Jelly Rolls and the
Shine Duns of the world, Yep, you just do. There's
that authentic vein. All three of us are from Tennessee,
So Jelly, Me and Bren are all from Tennessee. So
and Jellouy.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Jelly's that guy that to me, like when you when
you meet him and you see him, like we me
and him called it were like we wanted him to
come out with us again the next year. He was
open for us in twenty twenty two and basically we're
like next year, We're like, hey man, you're not opening
for anybody else ever again.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Nice so that when he went back out, he sold
out forty two dates, all amphitheaters. You know, but he
deserves every single thing that's going on in his life
right now, because that guy is the definition of authentic.
What you see is definitely what you get, and he's
ready for it. And uh, you know, he's out there
doing his thing. He's been waiting his whole life for
this opportunity. But also to with us. You were talking
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about new music. That's definitely something on when we go
back in. We've never done any like big features, had
people on our rebody. We'd love to do a record
that was just you know, us and our friends and
you know, just put a bunch of different people.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
And Sharon did that. The collaboration that project, it's it
was amazing, But that's all I love that idea.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I want to get AD's number and vote for I
vote for Share. We'll do a song with Share any
day of the week, wouldn't and you should. Hey, you
know we were watching you. You you singing, and of
course Zach was playing the guitar, and Zach Brent. When
you're belting out those notes that, I mean, they really
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do break windows.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I mean, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Danielle is the actually the Brent Smith of our show
Very Loud Loud.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Met you outside. You had a very lovely voice. It
didn't seem too loud. Giunt.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I want to see this. Maybe there's something that Zach
can comment on. We're watching you sing, and I don't
think you opened your eyes at all. Does he perform
with eyes closed? He'll open him up sometimes. Most of
the time he has his eyes closed. I think he's praying.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Most of the time, I thought he was just feeling
the music. He's also thinking about not sweating.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
There's that.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I think he doesn't just sweat when he walks around.
But for some reason, our joke is when he starts
to think about singing, just the sweatiest person.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, what is it anxiety or is it just excitement?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'll tell you straight up, like I tell people that
the key to success, you know, is to never arrive.
There's always another level, there's always another gear. And uh,
it's the same thing with nerves. Like people ask me
if I get nervous before I perform, and I'm like absolutely.
It doesn't matter if it's five people or if we're
in front of five hundred thousand, because we've done both.
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But it lets me know I'm alive, Like it lets
me know that I care. Like i'd be more nervous
if I wasn't nervous, but I close my eyes just
because I get lost in the song.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Okay, well that's good. No, don't change that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, I wouldn't know how to change. No.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Okay, we should do like one song one next time
you're here. We for you force yourself to keep to
say the same.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Thing work Orange when they had keep it open man.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
To see how ugly the world really is when you're
singing such a great song. Hey, interesting call here from Jess. Hi, Jess,
good morning, it will welcome. Say hi to Brent and
Zach shindown they're here and you have what what do
you have any Jess? What do you have on your car.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Oh, I have a license plate, like a special license
plate that has Shined Down.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's awesome. What state is it?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
What state?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Pennsylvania?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
People send us pictures all the time if they see them,
So that's what I wonder if I've ever seen that one?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
That's a sick vanity.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
At every concert in the local area.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So oh, thank you so much, thank you very much.
We appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
What is it about them, Jess? Why why do you
even care about Shine Down?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
This is my favorite show?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Why do you care about us? Why you care?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Honestly, when like these guys are absolutely amazing, and they're
right when they say, like everyone in the audience is
their boss. They cater to us. Their concerts are amazing,
and and somebody on your text said, you know, their voices,
you know, in like in person, sound exactly like they
do on the record, And that's one hundred percent, you know,
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like their concerts are always always the best I've ever
been to, and I love seeing them even I could
see the same show and I have many times over
and over and over again, and it's just that amazing
that next time.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You're so awesome.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Well, now I'm gonna I'm going to get a vanity
plate made that says Jess on it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
There you go, Jess, thank you for your call. Thanks.
It means a lot that you're listening today. Thank you
very much. Thanks guys. There you go. Hey, but you
guys have been doing this for a while. This is
not you woke up today and started the school. We've
been with each other for two decades. Yeah, you know
you have. There's families going on here, right, you're going
on the road. And what's it like doing this now
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versus doing it then? I mean, have you evolved into
this new person? Are you the same people just now
with kids rolling around a what's going on a little bit.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Of both that you definitely evolve. I think back in
the day, we I wasn't sitting on FaceTime with children.
There wasn't FaceTime either, but no.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
It was not. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Right now I'm like, you know, getting ready to work
out at a show at some arena and I'm watching
a soccer game live on FaceTime on a Saturday, you know.
So it's it's definitely different having kids. But you know,
my kids love what we do and they love kind
of being a part of it, you know. They they're
just now getting it. Some parts they still don't get.
They don't know why in a arena with thirteen thousand people,
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we can't go out to the popcorn stand and just
get popcorn ourselves.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I'm like, well, because that's because we'll get accosted, so
we can't go, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So you know, and all three of his kids want
to be him. Yeah, my son wants nothing to do
with it.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
My kids love this. They they very much enjoy it,
and so it's it's definitely fun. And now we're at
a place where I can bring them out and they
can be out on the road with us. And I
brought Actually the last time we were in Manhattan, I
brought I thought I was going to but yeah, last
time we were in New York, we were here for
like a week, and I brought my seven year old
and it was it was the most fun I've ever
had on the road.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Ever, how's that one?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Just showing him this city and watching a seven year
old from a father's eyes look at this place for
the first time and see it and how big it
is and how big the world is, and get to
show him and like he's a When I say he's
a foodie. I don't mean like he's a foodie for
a seven year old, like he's a foodie for a
forty year old. Really like oh we went to Yeah,
we definitely, we went to Sugarfish, We went to Know
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But like he is, like, yeah, he is like a
foodie to its core?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
How old is seven? At seven? I was eating my boogers.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Well for his third birthday, he wanted me to make
muscles with garlic white.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I love him. Not at a restaurant. He wanted me
to make that amazing Did you I did?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Was it good?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
It was great? I'm gonna be I'm a pretty good cook.
There you go. Hey, when it comes to your performances,
as Jess was saying, as everyone has been saying, there
is this, like I said, there's this line of honesty
in a direct, direct connection with five or five fifty
thousand people, you don't do encores. No, I mean when
you leave the stage, are people like yeah, yeah, and
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they're like okay, well they're not coming out, let's leave
or do they already know you're No, I think they
know by now.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
And also like I think you get to a point
where like I think they've played all the songs. I
don't I can't think of another song they're gonna play.
And also like I definitely I think I understood it
more back in the day, like I got it and
we used to do them.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, not to say that we wouldn't do it in
the future, just we haven't done it for years.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
It just seems I don't know, and I'm not. This
isn't me knocking on anybody else to us to what
we do.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It feels. I guess I would say disingenuous.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
To like, Yeah, if Billy Joel wants to do it,
he deserves to do it. If like Bruce Springsteen wants
to do it, go for it. We're gonna wants to
do it, go for it. But we're just gonna be
sitting off on the side of it. We're sitting off
on the side of stage. You can and if you're
an arena you can look at it.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
We're right there, like you can see us, like they're
probably gonna come back up. And Also it's like again
like we play, I don't think we leave anything to
the imagination. By the time our show's done, it's like,
what are they going to come back and play?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
There's the answer.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
I wanted to circle back to one thing that you
said about being on the road next to him. I'm
asking Zach about Brin. Why don't you want to be
in a hotel room next to him? Is it because
he sings or because he's smashing?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
No, he doesn't do it. He's very he's very like
docile in his hotel room. But when he he's on
the phone a lot like he does a lot of
our business stuff. And his again, what you said, his
singing voice is his talking voice. So if I'm in,
if I'm in twelve oh eight and he's in twelve
forty eight, I can still hear him.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
I love that hype that that's not.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Travel agent Kathy knows. I'm like, hey, do not put
me on the same floor.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
So when Brent or Danielle speak, I mean it hits
these frequencies and open garage doors across America.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Open.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
The hallway, and someone will say, I knew you were here.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
We were driving in this morning, there was a siren
behind us. Danielle, give me.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Hell's males, let's go.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Here's you really? Oh my Godela, that's telling Zach is
saying that's what you are. No, no, no, you might
have one up me. He doesn't make noises, it's just
his voice.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
But the problem is that he'll be on an airplane
and like it's the same voice.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It is the same boys, that's the guy.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Don't change a thing. Guy, the guy behind this. You
think he stinks, he kind of smells.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Wait, I have gotten her luggage taken away from her
on an airplane because I was so loud, I can't
travel with her.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
I tried to hide a bag. She was like, did you.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Just take the tag off your bag?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
They came and took it away. Yeah boo. And when
John Rule was at the airport, Oh my god, is
that John real? I'd gotten all that trouble from that
island thing that didn't happen. I was loo froggy, who's
got here or not?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I was so loud, I was like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Gosh, maybe he's he's booking another concerts. Well, you guys,
you really this is the greatest Wednesday morning of all time.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You really, truly you hit it out of the park
performing for us. We do appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Thank you for having us. It's an honor to be here.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
And as I rarely say, but I'll say it now.
When we have. When we have moments like that on
the show, it is truly a gift for us and
especially for everyone listening. You know, people were driving to
work twenty minutes or two hours. You know, they're leaving
a house they don't want to be in or go
into a job they don't be in that they have
a moment with Shine Down, and that's that's what changed
their day.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Hey man, we're happy to be here. Thanks for lett
us be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I've been playing the song. Yeah, of course no, he says,
we're so late. We don't have time to play a song,
the song shine Down alot, Shine Down.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Thank you guys and girls.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
You guys are awesome.
Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge, Shine Down of course,
Brent Smith, Zach Myers, going back to two thousand and
nine for second chance and of course before that symptom
of being human? Why is everyone falling over it? I
think we're okay. I think we're okay. Yeah, so messed
up from their their sleep aid, so you know we've
got things to talk about. That was amazing. See, I
(00:24):
don't know, you know, here's an issue I have with
you guys. Turn them on. I don't hear him. I
only hear him. Now we're on. Now what's happening? This
is going on everyone? They shouldn't let us run this stuff.
Look at all these buttons. That's a lot of buttons.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Coming in here.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Drafts a lot of buttons for this early in the
morning too.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
No, no, no one heard that. No one heard that
at all. It is a family show.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And maybe Zach will agree with me this with about this, Brent,
when you speak, you sound like you sound when you sing.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I've heard that before.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You have that, you have that same What do you
call it?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
It's I call it me calling our travel agents saying
I don't want to be on the same floor as
him of a hotel.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
He is loud.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I'm also like, if you have an accent, usually when
you sing, the accent leaves. But that doesn't happen with you.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
You.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
We still hear your accent.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
The girl from the Bronx, Yeah, I love the Bronx. Tennessee.
It's the Tennessee. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
The draw is always a little bit heavier in the morning, right, yeah,
well but y'all it's a little heavier in the morning.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You know, from Texas. When I first moved to New York,
I would say, y'all kinney, right, yeah, how did you
know that?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I'm smart?
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Oh my god. He researches everything. So I mean when
I first moved here, I used to use y'all and
we're gonna, we're fixing to go to the restaurant. People
looked at me like I was I was from Texas.
I guess they were accurate. Technically, you are from Texas.
May I read some texts? Sure? Yes, stupendous. Tell me
why I'm crying now? What a way to start my wind.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Everybody's crying this morning, but they're happy tears, so good.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Thank you. Shindan loved them. That was my wedding song.
I love them. I love hearing them on my station.
You were unlocking memory? What are They're freaking awesome? Listening
to Second Chances bringing me to tears reminds me of
simpler times when I first discovered Shine Down, Thank You.
It's not very often you hear an artists the same
live as they do on a recorded song. That was
so good I skipped my exit listening to them all
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the way to work. Yeah, sorry about that. So there's
a there's some negative there. Can we can? We can?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We take you all with us everywhere, especially with that screen.
Just build up our confidence on a daily basis. Man,
I would feel great will all the time. You don't
understand the way the studios laid out. They can see
the screen. There are sometimes we have guests on. We
have to turn it off.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yes, oh no, what do you get them out of
the studio?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'll never I won't mention the name sure Kitty Ki Kiddy, okay.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
So the Wit and Usher just playing in front of
like one hundred and twenty five million people.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
This was years ago.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
That was years years ago. His new stuff is long.
I think his old stuff is too. It's old stuff
is great too. But the other day I heard some
of his news track. He's always had incredible, just amazing
sounding recordings. He has a great team. His stuff always
sounds fresh and cool. You know, I know, Brent, you
you were really into thrash metal. I was at a
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certain point in time. I still am, right, Yeah, I'm
into everything. But then was your dad that introduced you
to a whole other world. I mean soon we introduced
you to lick.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah. Like when I was fourteen years old, I was
really into like punk rock and UK punk rock and
things of that nature and thrash grind core.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I was an angsty kid and my dad came into
my room one day and U he goes, Son, I
have no idea why all these people are so mad,
because it's a very angst driven and what have you.
And he gave me a tape and I didn't really
think anything about it, and I threw it off into
the corner. And a couple of weeks later, I was
rummaging through my room and I found it and I
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put it in and it was a guy named Otis Redding,
and so Otis Redding got me the al Green, which
got me to Percy Sledge, Sam Cook, Marvin Gaye. Marvin
Gaye got me to Nina Simone, el Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday.
So he opened up this whole world of motown and
R and B and rhythm and blues and so and
Zach's from Memphis, so I mean, he knows all about it.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
So this is what got you into music?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I mean yeah to a point. I mean I think
me and Zach at birth knew what we wanted to do.
We haven't, you know, we don't have a plan. B Yeah,
this is this is it.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
This is it? So Zach, what was what was it
that like buttered your biscuit When it comes to music,
blues first, Like.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, blues was the big thing. Being from Memphis too,
It's easy, right, that's like the thing. And then I
got into again otis reading soul singers like that. Youtwo
is probably my favorite band of all time. So, you know,
getting into songwriting was the big thing for me. So
because blues music is like there's not a lot of
fantastic songwriting. There's a couple of great blue songs, but
there's not a ton of like great songs. So when
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I got into when I got into songwriting.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Was you two probably is really, do you guys get
the feeling that being from the South brings up more
honesty when it comes to storytelling through music. I don't know,
because Froggy, who's not with us now, he's he's a
program director of a country station in Jacksonville doing very
well the country at Florida. Absolutely okay, the country music,
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the music, the artists they meet in their format, Yeah,
they always come across as just so authentic and your
music that is people they describe Shinda as being authentic
from the heart, like just unaddited, just for the lost tuff.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I think that's what I think, that's our mo I
think that you know, we always say you can full
some of the people some of the time.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You can't fool all the people all the time. So like,
why not.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
When we go on to write a song, our basic
plays a great way of putting these like you know,
he's like, sometimes I wish we did. He's like, but
we don't have a Jack and Die in Like we didn't.
We write songs about kind of what we're going through, right,
you know what I mean at that time, And I
think that's a great way.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
To put it.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I was reading that you don't go into the studio
because of trends and stuff like that. You go into
the studio when you have something to say.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, I mean, you can't walk intough it. I mean,
at least for us, we've never walked into an environment
where we're writing a song or putting a record together
and doing it because we want to be famous. We're
doing it because we have something to say. And on
the days that you don't have something to say, don't
go to the studio.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Maybe we should we should do that here. You mean
you're saying we should, we should like what.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
We do, I'll tell you what like, Well, you know,
we can do a residency here. In fact, we'll come
in whenever you guys and girls don't.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Want to do so, Yeah, we'll try and figure out
the board, you know, and we'll take it from there.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
So the new music, does it have a new sound
or are we sticking to sort of the classic shine down?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
We don't necessarily have. We don't ever put handcuffs on us.
And in regards to that.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
We call it a no lane highway. So you just
kind of go wherever you want and wherever it takes us.
And yeah, we don't you know, to me, a good
song is a good song is a good song. The
genre doesn't matter. A good song is going to hit you.
It doesn't matter what kind of music you like. So
I don't you know, I don't know. I don't think
we're going to make like a traditional poker record or anything.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
But well, you know, we also have to.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You got to understand something too. For us, the way
that we see it is, I mean, especially now, the
evolution of people being so open minded in regards to
not looking at for me necessarily like, it doesn't matter
if it's metal music, country music, pop music, rap music,
rock music. You know, it should be about all music
if you have a message, and that's always a primary
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thing with us, but you should be able to evolve
as an artist. We're lucky our fan base has always
allowed us to be ourselves. So and for us, we
have one boss in this band and it just happens
to be everybody in the audience. But I love where
music is going now and how open minded people are.
I mean, we're a prime example of that crossing. You know.
Back with Second Chance, we cross five formats. We're in
(07:30):
the middle of crossing you know, five different formats right now.
With a symptom of being human. You are giving us
an amazing opportunity this morning to be able to be
played for your audience. So we appreciate just being here
and you've given us the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Wow, just turning us on. Of course, this is Brent
and Zach from Shine Down. They performed a few minutes
ago and you missed it? Where the hell were you?
You can always listen to us on demand later.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I want to know if you could pick another artist
or a band or something and another genre of music
that you would like to collab with, who would it be?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh my god, there's a ton of people.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
That's tough.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Uh sure, definitely, dude. We do track with Usher any day.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Oh, any day for sure. Oh that's our boy, that's
our He played with us every night. We brought him
out on tour with us last year, two years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
He's the best, nice, the sweetest guy and but he
you you see similarities between the Jelly Rolls and the
Shine Duns of the world, Yep, you just do. There's
that authentic vein. All three of us are from Tennessee,
So Jelly, Me and Bren are all from Tennessee. So
and Jellouy.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Jelly's that guy that to me, like when you when
you meet him and you see him, like we me
and him called it were like we wanted him to
come out with us again the next year. He was
open for us in twenty twenty two and basically we're
like next year, We're like, hey man, you're not opening
for anybody else ever again.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Nice so that when he went back out, he sold
out forty two dates, all amphitheaters. You know, but he
deserves every single thing that's going on in his life
right now, because that guy is the definition of authentic.
What you see is definitely what you get, and he's
ready for it. And uh, you know, he's out there
doing his thing. He's been waiting his whole life for
this opportunity. But also to with us. You were talking
(09:03):
about new music. That's definitely something on when we go
back in. We've never done any like big features, had
people on our rebody. We'd love to do a record
that was just you know, us and our friends and
you know, just put a bunch of different people.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
And Sharon did that. The collaboration that project, it's it
was amazing, But that's all I love that idea.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I want to get AD's number and vote for I
vote for Share. We'll do a song with Share any
day of the week, wouldn't and you should. Hey, you
know we were watching you. You you singing, and of
course Zach was playing the guitar, and Zach Brent. When
you're belting out those notes that, I mean, they really
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do break windows.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I mean, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Danielle is the actually the Brent Smith of our show
Very Loud Loud.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Met you outside. You had a very lovely voice. It
didn't seem too loud. Giunt.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I want to see this. Maybe there's something that Zach
can comment on. We're watching you sing, and I don't
think you opened your eyes at all. Does he perform
with eyes closed? He'll open him up sometimes. Most of
the time he has his eyes closed. I think he's praying.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Most of the time, I thought he was just feeling
the music. He's also thinking about not sweating.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
There's that.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I think he doesn't just sweat when he walks around.
But for some reason, our joke is when he starts
to think about singing, just the sweatiest person.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, what is it anxiety or is it just excitement?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'll tell you straight up, like I tell people that
the key to success, you know, is to never arrive.
There's always another level, there's always another gear. And uh,
it's the same thing with nerves. Like people ask me
if I get nervous before I perform, and I'm like absolutely.
It doesn't matter if it's five people or if we're
in front of five hundred thousand, because we've done both.
(10:51):
But it lets me know I'm alive, Like it lets
me know that I care. Like i'd be more nervous
if I wasn't nervous, but I close my eyes just
because I get lost in the song.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Okay, well that's good. No, don't change that.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, I wouldn't know how to change. No.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Okay, we should do like one song one next time
you're here. We for you force yourself to keep to
say the same.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Thing work Orange when they had keep it open man.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
To see how ugly the world really is when you're
singing such a great song. Hey, interesting call here from Jess. Hi, Jess,
good morning, it will welcome. Say hi to Brent and
Zach shindown they're here and you have what what do
you have any Jess? What do you have on your car.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Oh, I have a license plate, like a special license
plate that has Shined Down.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
That's awesome. What state is it?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
What state?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
Pennsylvania?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
People send us pictures all the time if they see them,
So that's what I wonder if I've ever seen that one?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
That's a sick vanity.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
At every concert in the local area.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
So oh, thank you so much, thank you very much.
We appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
What is it about them, Jess? Why why do you
even care about Shine Down?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
This is my favorite show?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Why do you care about us? Why you care?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You know what?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Honestly, when like these guys are absolutely amazing, and they're
right when they say, like everyone in the audience is
their boss. They cater to us. Their concerts are amazing,
and and somebody on your text said, you know, their voices,
you know, in like in person, sound exactly like they
do on the record, And that's one hundred percent, you know,
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like their concerts are always always the best I've ever
been to, and I love seeing them even I could
see the same show and I have many times over
and over and over again, and it's just that amazing
that next time.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
You're so awesome.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Well, now I'm gonna I'm going to get a vanity
plate made that says Jess on it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
There you go, Jess, thank you for your call. Thanks.
It means a lot that you're listening today. Thank you
very much. Thanks guys. There you go. Hey, but you
guys have been doing this for a while. This is
not you woke up today and started the school. We've
been with each other for two decades. Yeah, you know
you have. There's families going on here, right, you're going
on the road. And what's it like doing this now
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versus doing it then? I mean, have you evolved into
this new person? Are you the same people just now
with kids rolling around a what's going on a little bit.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Of both that you definitely evolve. I think back in
the day, we I wasn't sitting on FaceTime with children.
There wasn't FaceTime either, but no.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
It was not. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Right now I'm like, you know, getting ready to work
out at a show at some arena and I'm watching
a soccer game live on FaceTime on a Saturday, you know.
So it's it's definitely different having kids. But you know,
my kids love what we do and they love kind
of being a part of it, you know. They they're
just now getting it. Some parts they still don't get.
They don't know why in a arena with thirteen thousand people,
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we can't go out to the popcorn stand and just
get popcorn ourselves.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I'm like, well, because that's because we'll get accosted, so
we can't go, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
So you know, and all three of his kids want
to be him. Yeah, my son wants nothing to do
with it.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
My kids love this. They they very much enjoy it,
and so it's it's definitely fun. And now we're at
a place where I can bring them out and they
can be out on the road with us. And I
brought Actually the last time we were in Manhattan, I
brought I thought I was going to but yeah, last
time we were in New York, we were here for
like a week, and I brought my seven year old
and it was it was the most fun I've ever
had on the road.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Ever, how's that one?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Just showing him this city and watching a seven year
old from a father's eyes look at this place for
the first time and see it and how big it
is and how big the world is, and get to
show him and like he's a When I say he's
a foodie. I don't mean like he's a foodie for
a seven year old, like he's a foodie for a
forty year old. Really like oh we went to Yeah,
we definitely, we went to Sugarfish, We went to Know
(14:53):
But like he is, like, yeah, he is like a
foodie to its core?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
How old is seven? At seven? I was eating my boogers.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Well for his third birthday, he wanted me to make
muscles with garlic white.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I love him. Not at a restaurant. He wanted me
to make that amazing Did you I did?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Was it good?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
It was great? I'm gonna be I'm a pretty good cook.
There you go. Hey, when it comes to your performances,
as Jess was saying, as everyone has been saying, there
is this, like I said, there's this line of honesty
in a direct, direct connection with five or five fifty
thousand people, you don't do encores. No, I mean when
you leave the stage, are people like yeah, yeah, and
(15:34):
they're like okay, well they're not coming out, let's leave
or do they already know you're No, I think they
know by now.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
And also like I think you get to a point
where like I think they've played all the songs. I
don't I can't think of another song they're gonna play.
And also like I definitely I think I understood it
more back in the day, like I got it and
we used to do them.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, not to say that we wouldn't do it in
the future, just we haven't done it for years.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
It just seems I don't know, and I'm not. This
isn't me knocking on anybody else to us to what
we do.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It feels. I guess I would say disingenuous.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
To like, Yeah, if Billy Joel wants to do it,
he deserves to do it. If like Bruce Springsteen wants
to do it, go for it. We're gonna wants to
do it, go for it. But we're just gonna be
sitting off on the side of it. We're sitting off
on the side of stage. You can and if you're
an arena you can look at it.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
We're right there, like you can see us, like they're
probably gonna come back up. And Also it's like again
like we play, I don't think we leave anything to
the imagination. By the time our show's done, it's like,
what are they going to come back and play?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
There's the answer.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
I wanted to circle back to one thing that you
said about being on the road next to him. I'm
asking Zach about Brin. Why don't you want to be
in a hotel room next to him? Is it because
he sings or because he's smashing?
Speaker 3 (16:38):
No, he doesn't do it. He's very he's very like
docile in his hotel room. But when he he's on
the phone a lot like he does a lot of
our business stuff. And his again, what you said, his
singing voice is his talking voice. So if I'm in,
if I'm in twelve oh eight and he's in twelve
forty eight, I can still hear him.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
I love that hype that that's not.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Travel agent Kathy knows. I'm like, hey, do not put
me on the same floor.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
So when Brent or Danielle speak, I mean it hits
these frequencies and open garage doors across America.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Open.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
The hallway, and someone will say, I knew you were here.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
We were driving in this morning, there was a siren
behind us. Danielle, give me.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Hell's males, let's go.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Here's you really? Oh my Godela, that's telling Zach is
saying that's what you are. No, no, no, you might
have one up me. He doesn't make noises, it's just
his voice.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
But the problem is that he'll be on an airplane
and like it's the same voice.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
It is the same boys, that's the guy.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Don't change a thing. Guy, the guy behind this. You
think he stinks, he kind of smells.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Wait, I have gotten her luggage taken away from her
on an airplane because I was so loud, I can't
travel with her.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
I tried to hide a bag. She was like, did you.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Just take the tag off your bag?
Speaker 1 (18:15):
They came and took it away. Yeah boo. And when
John Rule was at the airport, Oh my god, is
that John real? I'd gotten all that trouble from that
island thing that didn't happen. I was loo froggy, who's
got here or not?
Speaker 4 (18:27):
I was so loud, I was like, oh my.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Gosh, maybe he's he's booking another concerts. Well, you guys,
you really this is the greatest Wednesday morning of all time.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You really, truly you hit it out of the park
performing for us. We do appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Thank you for having us. It's an honor to be here.
Speaker 5 (18:44):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
And as I rarely say, but I'll say it now.
When we have. When we have moments like that on
the show, it is truly a gift for us and
especially for everyone listening. You know, people were driving to
work twenty minutes or two hours. You know, they're leaving
a house they don't want to be in or go
into a job they don't be in that they have
a moment with Shine Down, and that's that's what changed
their day.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Hey man, we're happy to be here. Thanks for lett
us be a part of it.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
I've been playing the song. Yeah, of course no, he says,
we're so late. We don't have time to play a song,
the song shine Down alot, Shine Down.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Thank you guys and girls.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
You guys are awesome.