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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge. Hey, take mccraig
this walk date. So first time I met you, we
were next to a pool and you were wearing combat
boots and it was ninety five degrees outside. Crazy And
look where it's gone since then. Thank you, by the
way for playing so many of our jingle ball dates
(00:21):
for iHeart.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I was just told by the jingle ball people, the
people that pay our paychecks, that you were officially the
the MVP at our jingle Ball tour this year.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I've done so many no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We had some great, great artists, had Bencent Boone had,
but they said that you were the one that was
the most valuable player.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh my gosh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You're welcome. It's crazy, It is kind of crazy, but
it's nice to know someone likes you.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well, so close to what is doing? So well? What
have your gun?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Can you sick?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
My gun?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Teacher?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
May I give you some advice? Never give your gum
to a stranger.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
He's gonna harvest your DNA.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
There's there we don't get. I would take that with you.
Where's secured road? God, it's just these people. I'm sorry.
Are you having fun? Is this going okay for you?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah? I think. I mean, I am so lucky. I
have just like my best friends and my team around
me all the time. So we're just crying laughing, like
twenty four to seven. So it is pretty crazy to
be able to like do these moments with people I
really love. I mean, we did Foulin last night. We've
asked ol this weekend album dropped on Friday, so it's
just yeah, we'ven going.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
It is a busy week. And isn't Jimmy Fallon just
the best?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
He's the best?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I love him, you know, even when Mike's are off
and there's no cameras on, He's that.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
He's the exact same person. And that was my first
ever like talk show, so I was nervous.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's weird because I've been I've been on that show
and when they say, hey, you great, and then that
curtain comes open and you're like, okay, you walk out,
there's the audio. To your left is the band and
there's Jimmy going like waving, come over.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
She also just said SNL so casually a massive deal.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, So it's my second time going on and I'm
so excited.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Are you going to do any skits?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Actually I have no idea, but we'll see. Okay, that'd
be fun, I think yes. I actually literally don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I actually really don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I mean the great thing about snl ism you just
kind of show up. They go hey can you do this?
Put this chicken costume on, and they push them stage.
You're like, whoa.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
The backstage is crazy, it's chaos.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And it's funny how when you're in that studio everything
is so small. I mean, the stage is it's like
the size of its.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Teeny It's like this table, It's like, yeah, this is
not a small table.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Stand on this table pretends to stage less. It's small.
So okay. But music wise, let's talk about so close
to what. Look, this is a bunch of fancy stuff
they gave me about the album. It's breaking all sorts
of records. It's your most well received today.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I don't really like to look at critics and stuff,
just because that freaks me out. And also if you
love it and you feel passionate about it, that's like
the last thing that you want to believe, I think,
or the when you put out a project, I'm like
I don't need to be, you know, painted by all
these opinions because music is so subjective. You just really
if people are gonna love it so much or they're
gonna hate it, it's like that doesn't change that I
(03:22):
was proud of this album and I love it. I
think that's like how you have to approach every now.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
A those You'll go nuts, you're going crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You're never gonna you're never gonna please everyone, You're never
gonna make everyone happy. So it's just if you if
you do it for yourself and the music that you like,
I think that's the only way that you can really
be proud of it.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Well, that's what being an artist is.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So you don't have control over other people's opinions obviously,
and PEO don't care about that, but typically you have
control over when that album comes out. And I know
that you said you were super upset when you found
out it got leaked.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
How does that work?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Did you find out who did it?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
We didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Actually we've been looking killed down.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, it just I mean, yeah, it sucks. There's nothing
you can do. You lose control of releasing the album
how you want it. And then also what I've been
noticing is people get really bad demo witis, which is
the thing where when you first write a demo and
you like have a version and then you do all
the production to make it better, a lot of people
like end up liking the first version. So the version
that got leaked was like very early on versions. And
(04:22):
now my fans are like attached to those.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Versions, and I'm like, well, then you're kind of giving
them a surprise.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, and they're like, well you change this. I'm like, yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I'm allowed to. It's your music.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I wasn't it wasn't released yet. So yeah, it's been
an interesting thing to navigate for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Here's a thought. I mean, music, being as cathartic as
it is, you write these songs and you get feelings out,
it's actually it's like going to therapy. Yeah, in a way,
do you think it's possible for therapists to actually start
getting writing credits for albumsst wants to.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Know eventually they get really good. My therapist is great.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
They give great advice. It's supposed to be off the record.
So even if they said that was their idea in
a line, that's a great name for her next album.
Off the record, and it's all the sessions and what
about collaborations. I know Julia Michaels. We love Julia ever
since she came on the scene. I just like her
vibe and her vulnerability. You guys wrote sports Car sport
(05:24):
Card together.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Right, Yeah, we wrote a couple of songs on the album,
Revolving Door, Dear God and sports Car together.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Do you have other artists like calling you now or
finding out and going hey, I want to work with you.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I mean, yeah, I feel like I've been getting a
few congratulations.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I like Revolving Door, and I don't know if anyone
knows that I'm gonna play this today whether you like
it or not. I mean, do you have a favorite?
Is that a stupid question to ask? If you have
a favorite song, so that means the most to you?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Off the album, there's a couple that I like. Dear
God is one of my favorites, and then Purple A
spra is also a favorite. I also love Revolving Door.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Thank you do have the least favorite? It's like picking
your least favorite. That's a fair question.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I know they exist.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't know my least favorite, Like if I had
to choose it, would be like no, not in love,
which is.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Like the why do you hate that song?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Song?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
A lot that didn't make the album. Like I know
a lot of artists come in here and they go,
I had fifty cuts and I had to, you know,
narrow it down.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, I write so many songs. So we narrowed it
down from like probably seventy songs. Wow, yeah, I'm writing
all the time.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
We had to insure it on once and he said
he actually has a collection of songs that he hates. Yes,
but we said we'd buy that. We said you should
actually no title the album the songs I f and hate.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's the thing is, is that actually everything's getting leaked of
mine now. So like every single song that I wrote
when I was fourteen, fifteen sixteen, like terrible, terrible songs
that I never thought would see the light of day,
and I actually have not heard in like years or
on the internet, and it's horrible.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
But don't you think hear me out though, Twenty years
from now, you'll look back at this album and go, God,
those are awful, because you'll be onto something you new.
Your life will be totally different.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I mean that's always you. You look back and why
do they do that or why do they look like that?
Or so that happens.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I mean, you write an album and by the time
it comes out, all that stuff already happened. It's all
rear view mirror stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, I mean all this stuff I wrote six No,
that's not true. I wrote a couple of like four
weeks ago, but a lot of some of them I like, yeah,
I wrote a year ago, a year and a half ago.
So it kind of depends to.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Be an artist. You're an artist.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I'm a different type of artist, and I'd be very
upset if my stuff got leaked. Also just painting, Yeah,
I paint, okay, But when that happens and you guys
have this whole plan because I know, when you launch
an album, you release an album, yeah, there are tours
planned around.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It and big press releases.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Does everything change at that point when something comes out
ahead of time?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I mean yeah, I think people think that. Like sometimes
music is so like just press go and you just
drop the songs in the videos, and but there's so
much thought and so many people involved in so much
hard work and effort in hours and hours and hours
of like perfecting plans and you know it is you
run it like a business, like you're whatever. So it
(08:20):
does take a lot of effort, and when it all
gets leaked, you're kind of just like, well what now?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And then when your old stuff is leaked also, it's
like somebody got ahold of your diary and just posted it.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It very much is like that, because there are reasons
why you don't release songs, like sometimes I just need
to write a song to just get something off my
chest and it's therapeutic for me, and like I don't
want anybody to ever hear it.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You're like name dropping like churs, I hate you. Yeah,
you're fourteen over now?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
No, literally, Well I read something that made me feel
good because I'm one of them. It says you really
love the gays.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah I do.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Why do you hate the straits?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
She hates the traits? The bisexual? Okay, so here they're
my favorite. No, it beats them. No, it's better than them.
My whole team is gay. They're all gay. They are.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's my whole team.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But why is that?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Because they honestly just have the best opinions on things.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Look at I'm dressed, hello, rethake that it's.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Just the no filter, Like if I walk out and
I look bad, like you look awful, I like that.
It's really refreshing.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
My favorite is you have a mirror at home. Right.
We're so happy for you again. You were m v
P voted MVP at arjingle Ball Concerts. Yeah, it was
great to have you there, So feel free to come
back so close to what. Of course it's ready for you,
Now go find it. I'm gonna play two to Tate
McCrae too. We call it. Okay, should we start with
sports car and then I'll do a little revolving door
(09:57):
or should we do little revolving door and then play
a little sports.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Let's see that.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So decisive, that's the way.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Just just should and make a decision. Take the prey
revomding doing
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Hmm
Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge. Hey, take mccraig
this walk date. So first time I met you, we
were next to a pool and you were wearing combat
boots and it was ninety five degrees outside. Crazy And
look where it's gone since then. Thank you, by the
way for playing so many of our jingle ball dates
(00:21):
for iHeart.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I was just told by the jingle ball people, the
people that pay our paychecks, that you were officially the
the MVP at our jingle Ball tour this year.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I've done so many no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We had some great, great artists, had Bencent Boone had,
but they said that you were the one that was
the most valuable player.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh my gosh, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
You're welcome. It's crazy, It is kind of crazy, but
it's nice to know someone likes you.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
That's great.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well, so close to what is doing? So well? What
have your gun?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Can you sick?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
My gun?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Teacher?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
May I give you some advice? Never give your gum
to a stranger.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
He's gonna harvest your DNA.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
There's there we don't get. I would take that with you.
Where's secured road? God, it's just these people. I'm sorry.
Are you having fun? Is this going okay for you?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah? I think. I mean, I am so lucky. I
have just like my best friends and my team around
me all the time. So we're just crying laughing, like
twenty four to seven. So it is pretty crazy to
be able to like do these moments with people I
really love. I mean, we did Foulin last night. We've
asked ol this weekend album dropped on Friday, so it's
just yeah, we'ven going.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
It is a busy week. And isn't Jimmy Fallon just
the best?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
He's the best?
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I love him, you know, even when Mike's are off
and there's no cameras on, He's that.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
He's the exact same person. And that was my first
ever like talk show, so I was nervous.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's weird because I've been I've been on that show
and when they say, hey, you great, and then that
curtain comes open and you're like, okay, you walk out,
there's the audio. To your left is the band and
there's Jimmy going like waving, come over.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
She also just said SNL so casually a massive deal.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, So it's my second time going on and I'm
so excited.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Are you going to do any skits?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Actually I have no idea, but we'll see. Okay, that'd
be fun, I think yes. I actually literally don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I actually really don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I mean the great thing about snl ism you just
kind of show up. They go hey can you do this?
Put this chicken costume on, and they push them stage.
You're like, whoa.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
The backstage is crazy, it's chaos.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
And it's funny how when you're in that studio everything
is so small. I mean, the stage is it's like
the size of its.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Teeny It's like this table, It's like, yeah, this is
not a small table.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Stand on this table pretends to stage less. It's small.
So okay. But music wise, let's talk about so close
to what. Look, this is a bunch of fancy stuff
they gave me about the album. It's breaking all sorts
of records. It's your most well received today.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
I don't really like to look at critics and stuff,
just because that freaks me out. And also if you
love it and you feel passionate about it, that's like
the last thing that you want to believe, I think,
or the when you put out a project, I'm like
I don't need to be, you know, painted by all
these opinions because music is so subjective. You just really
if people are gonna love it so much or they're
gonna hate it, it's like that doesn't change that I
(03:22):
was proud of this album and I love it. I
think that's like how you have to approach every now.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
A those You'll go nuts, you're going crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
You're never gonna you're never gonna please everyone, You're never
gonna make everyone happy. So it's just if you if
you do it for yourself and the music that you like,
I think that's the only way that you can really
be proud of it.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Well, that's what being an artist is.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
So you don't have control over other people's opinions obviously,
and PEO don't care about that, but typically you have
control over when that album comes out. And I know
that you said you were super upset when you found
out it got leaked.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
How does that work?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Did you find out who did it?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
We didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Actually we've been looking killed down.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, it just I mean, yeah, it sucks. There's nothing
you can do. You lose control of releasing the album
how you want it. And then also what I've been
noticing is people get really bad demo witis, which is
the thing where when you first write a demo and
you like have a version and then you do all
the production to make it better, a lot of people
like end up liking the first version. So the version
that got leaked was like very early on versions. And
(04:22):
now my fans are like attached to those.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Versions, and I'm like, well, then you're kind of giving
them a surprise.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, and they're like, well you change this. I'm like, yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I'm allowed to. It's your music.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I wasn't it wasn't released yet. So yeah, it's been
an interesting thing to navigate for sure.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Here's a thought. I mean, music, being as cathartic as
it is, you write these songs and you get feelings out,
it's actually it's like going to therapy. Yeah, in a way,
do you think it's possible for therapists to actually start
getting writing credits for albumsst wants to.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Know eventually they get really good. My therapist is great.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
They give great advice. It's supposed to be off the record.
So even if they said that was their idea in
a line, that's a great name for her next album.
Off the record, and it's all the sessions and what
about collaborations. I know Julia Michaels. We love Julia ever
since she came on the scene. I just like her
vibe and her vulnerability. You guys wrote sports Car sport
(05:24):
Card together.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Right, Yeah, we wrote a couple of songs on the album,
Revolving Door, Dear God and sports Car together.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Do you have other artists like calling you now or
finding out and going hey, I want to work with you.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I mean, yeah, I feel like I've been getting a
few congratulations.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I like Revolving Door, and I don't know if anyone
knows that I'm gonna play this today whether you like
it or not. I mean, do you have a favorite?
Is that a stupid question to ask? If you have
a favorite song, so that means the most to you?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Off the album, there's a couple that I like. Dear
God is one of my favorites, and then Purple A
spra is also a favorite. I also love Revolving Door.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Thank you do have the least favorite? It's like picking
your least favorite. That's a fair question.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I know they exist.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I don't know my least favorite, Like if I had
to choose it, would be like no, not in love,
which is.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Like the why do you hate that song?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Song?
Speaker 1 (06:25):
A lot that didn't make the album. Like I know
a lot of artists come in here and they go,
I had fifty cuts and I had to, you know,
narrow it down.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, I write so many songs. So we narrowed it
down from like probably seventy songs. Wow, yeah, I'm writing
all the time.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
We had to insure it on once and he said
he actually has a collection of songs that he hates. Yes,
but we said we'd buy that. We said you should
actually no title the album the songs I f and hate.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
That's the thing is, is that actually everything's getting leaked of
mine now. So like every single song that I wrote
when I was fourteen, fifteen sixteen, like terrible, terrible songs
that I never thought would see the light of day,
and I actually have not heard in like years or
on the internet, and it's horrible.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
But don't you think hear me out though, Twenty years
from now, you'll look back at this album and go, God,
those are awful, because you'll be onto something you new.
Your life will be totally different.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I mean that's always you. You look back and why
do they do that or why do they look like that?
Or so that happens.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I mean, you write an album and by the time
it comes out, all that stuff already happened. It's all
rear view mirror stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, I mean all this stuff I wrote six No,
that's not true. I wrote a couple of like four
weeks ago, but a lot of some of them I like, yeah,
I wrote a year ago, a year and a half ago.
So it kind of depends to.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Be an artist. You're an artist.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I'm a different type of artist, and I'd be very
upset if my stuff got leaked. Also just painting, Yeah,
I paint, okay, But when that happens and you guys
have this whole plan because I know, when you launch
an album, you release an album, yeah, there are tours
planned around.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It and big press releases.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Does everything change at that point when something comes out
ahead of time?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I mean yeah, I think people think that. Like sometimes
music is so like just press go and you just
drop the songs in the videos, and but there's so
much thought and so many people involved in so much
hard work and effort in hours and hours and hours
of like perfecting plans and you know it is you
run it like a business, like you're whatever. So it
(08:20):
does take a lot of effort, and when it all
gets leaked, you're kind of just like, well what now?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And then when your old stuff is leaked also, it's
like somebody got ahold of your diary and just posted it.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It very much is like that, because there are reasons
why you don't release songs, like sometimes I just need
to write a song to just get something off my
chest and it's therapeutic for me, and like I don't
want anybody to ever hear it.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
You're like name dropping like churs, I hate you. Yeah,
you're fourteen over now?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
No, literally, Well I read something that made me feel
good because I'm one of them. It says you really
love the gays.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yeah I do.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Why do you hate the straits?
Speaker 1 (08:54):
She hates the traits? The bisexual? Okay, so here they're
my favorite. No, it beats them. No, it's better than them.
My whole team is gay. They're all gay. They are.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's my whole team.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
But why is that?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Because they honestly just have the best opinions on things.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Look at I'm dressed, hello, rethake that it's.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Just the no filter, Like if I walk out and
I look bad, like you look awful, I like that.
It's really refreshing.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
My favorite is you have a mirror at home. Right.
We're so happy for you again. You were m v
P voted MVP at arjingle Ball Concerts. Yeah, it was
great to have you there, So feel free to come
back so close to what. Of course it's ready for you,
Now go find it. I'm gonna play two to Tate
McCrae too. We call it. Okay, should we start with
sports car and then I'll do a little revolving door
(09:57):
or should we do little revolving door and then play
a little sports.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Let's see that.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So decisive, that's the way.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Just just should and make a decision. Take the prey
revomding doing
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Hmm
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On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!