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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone.
Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we are
going to talk about Violet afflex message to the world,
about masking, a circus performer who plummeted to their death,
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and the dangers of amusement rides. All that and more
on titday's episode. Let's get started with Violet Affleck.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
So, for those of you who aren't familiar, she is
the nineteen year old daughter of Ben Affleck and Jennifer Gardner.
So she went to the UN last week to discuss
clean air and urge the government to bring back mask mandates.
How do you feel about this?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I just I actually feel bad for this kid because
I think that she's completely out of her mind and
I just can't imagine that her parents are letting her
do this.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, yeah, and there's a lot like there's really like,
are there people right now that are just like you
should be wearing a mask at all times?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I mean I know there are, but.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Everywhere I go I see people, not everyone, but I
see a handful of people wearing them when you go out.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's sad what has been done during this pandemic to
people to make them think that they need to wear
a mask all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I just feel really bad for people like that. See,
It's like I could get behind her with the Clean
Air Initiative, right, And she's using the example of how
positive it was when we took smoking out of indoor
areas like restaurants, airplanes, et cetera. And I understand that,
and I get behind that, But I think the mass
criticism she's getting is a that her father is like
(01:55):
a Cereal chain smoker, always smoking in every single environment.
And how are you trying to urge the government to
make changes when you can't even convince your dad to
make a change. And then I also saw Megan McCain
was criticizing her, saying, you know, she's also the daughter
of famous people, and her parents would have never let
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her go up on a stage at such a young age,
with having no background at all and talk about such
serious topics. It's so I think, you know, she could
potentially have a good message with the Clean Air Initiative,
but I think a lot of people are just looking
at it as she's this NEPO baby with no background
whatsoever in the science behind all of this and she
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has no reason to be up there talking to these people.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It just the whole thing of it just kind of
blows my mind because you're like, they're only there X
amount of minutes and you're giving this person with this
message this time to talk. There's nothing else in the
world that was more pressing than this right now. Well,
I think the big question too, is how did she
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even get there? Because her parents are Ben Affleck and
Jennifer Gardner like that, I know, but.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
That's like the criticism is that a normal person that's
she's she's marked as a youth advocate there right, A
normal youth advocate that's a regular, everyday person would not
be able to go up there and speak like that.
So it's just like, I think a lot of people
are seeing it as something embarrassing, not just she was.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Doesn't it doesn't like you're saying the whole clean air
thing and all. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
It's just like, Okay, lady, if you want to wear
a mask, wear a mask. Like she's trying to tell
the government that everybody should wear a mask at all time,
Like she's out of her mind. That's that's out of
your mind talk.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But also if you have, if you have like a
breathing issue because of poor air, don't live in Los Angeles,
which has notoriously horrible air pollution. I just see it
as ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I just see it as not think if you want
to if any person like you see people all the
time in their car by themselves with a mask with
the windows up, like, if you want to do that, fine,
go ahead. But but like for the rest for the
rest of us seeing people here, no, and there is
there is definitely a time and a place for it,
that time and place being people who are immunosuppressed and
(04:22):
need to have wear something like in n ninety five,
like one of one of the guys that goes to
my kid's school has cancer, right, and I saw him
at one of the back to school events the other
night wearing one. Totally appropriate because you're immuno suppressed and
you should be wearing one. Everyone else like, absolutely not.
And it it really you know, if COVID never happened,
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people would think that vilet afflic was completely out of
her mind, right, Like every single person would be like
this is this is outrageous that this girl's even saying that,
but now that COVID happened, which by the way, is
just as transmissible as like so many other things that
occurred before COVID, Like, it's just not it's nothing to me.
And the fact that so many people are just actually
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sitting there and even listening to it is really disturbing
to me that they're letting her do that and she's
embarrassing herself.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well yeah, and I think of you know, when people
have a lot of issues with NEPO babies. I think
situations like this. I don't think in every case just
because somebody has famous parents doesn't mean they haven't worked
hard and haven't earned where they are in their spot
and whatever. But when you see situations like this, you're like,
why is this kid up there? What is she talking about?
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And from the news outlets I've seen in the social
media response, I don't think very many people thought she
was being this hero that she thought she was being.
It's it scares me.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I feel like I'm saying, I feel terrible for her,
I really do, and her her it's her parents' responsibility
to be like sweetheart.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Now, No, well I don't. The way it comes across
to me is that Jennifer Gardner's totally behind her with this,
and I don't know how present of the parent Ben
Affleck is there anything, but like he's clearly not taking
your advice. He's always photographed smoking cigarettes everywhere he goes.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
The funny thing is is that she keeps saying that
I guess she's suffering from symptoms of long COVID, which
I've like, honestly, I've never looked into enough to know
if it's you know, people say they're having all these
symptoms or whatever she's saying, and you know, some of
the symptoms that she's having include shortness of breath and
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trouble concentrating in these things. And I'm just like, could
it be because you're wearing a mask all day? Is
that possible? Well, I wasn't just putting it out there,
Like listen, I've had to wear one for work several times,
like for actual reasons, for to prevent getting TB from
either a specimen or an autopsy, And it's just more
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difficult to breathe when you're wearing them all day long
at work. Like I don't care what anybody says it is.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I mean, yeah, when I think back to the height
of COVID the summer of twenty twenty. I'm working at
the restaurant. It's hot outside. We had to wear them.
It was terrible. Everybody felt like they were going to
pass out all the time.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, So, I mean, I just think I think a
lot of people do it because they're just I think
of a lot of the times. It's sometimes like I
like to wear my glasses, like I feel like if
I don't have them on, I feel like naked or something.
It's just weird. Maybe that's how they feel. They just
feel like safer with it on their face. And like, listen,
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like I don't give a shit if people wear them,
they could do whatever they want. But to come on
there and try to act like like like were they
actually listening to what she was saying. She wants all
children to be wearing those things all the time. Well,
I think nobody should have even let that get said
out loud on a stage.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It's just outrageous. Well, I think that's why, in part
why she's get you know, criticized, because I think if
you had a legitimate scientist go up there and be
like we've conducted all these studies and provided all this
scientific backing and presented a credible argument, you would be
taken a little more seriously. I mean, of course you
should still take the consideration it under.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
There's no scientist that's ever going to get up and
say that, because it's so outrageous, Like you're the teenage
child of two movie stars, so and you're, yeah, you
go to Yale, but for what.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I don't I just I don't know. I just think
it was ridiculous, Okay. On Saturday, a twenty seven year
old circus acrobat was doing a solo trapeze act in
front of one hundred people when suddenly she fell sixteen
feet and died. Did you see the video? I didn't.
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
It's you know, I was thinking when when I read it,
sixteen feet isn't really that high. I mean it's high,
Like I don't ever, I don't want to from sixteen
feet for sure, but usually that results in maybe some
kind of traumatic injuries, broken bones, death is I don't
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really know. But I mean she was swinging trapeeze, so
it's not a very clear video, so I couldn't see
exactly how she fell onto the ground. But if she fell,
I guess on her abdomen or her head. Even then
that could have definitely caused more severe problems which actually
happened to her because she's dead.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But I think there is speculation that maybe she had
like a health issue or something, because they're trying to
say that she was so experienced that in general, she
wouldn't have necessarily made a mistake like that, even though
she wasn't wearing a safety rope. But the fall wasn't
that high, So I think that's where everybody's kind of
coming in saying this seems unusual that she would have
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just fallen. I mean, but you could fall from a
short distance like that and just hit your neck the
wrong way or something. Yeah, totally, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
It just we have another story actually in this episode
talking about someone that fell for a much greater distance,
which you could understand, you know, would cause life threatening injuries,
but in this case. You know, I've been a couple
of these acrobat shows and they're so good, they're just
so amazing, and I just watch the people and think,
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if you really watch these people that right walk on
the tightrope and all this stuff, and they don't have
any kind of harness, it's just it's really, really amazing
that there's not more things like that that happen.
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Speaker 1 (11:10):
All right, So now we have a string of stories
about things that happen on recreational rides.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
All right. So back in twenty twenty one, the six
year old girl went on the Haunted Mind Drop at
Glenwood Cavern's Adventure Park in Colorado with some family members.
So when they were getting on the ride, there's this
safety feature built into the ride that'll let the operators
know if something is off with the seatbelts or the ride.
So that system was going off and they kept repeatedly
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checking it but didn't see an issue, so then they
over they ended up overriding it and sending the ride
along its way. But they didn't realize that this girl
was sitting on top of part of the seatbelt and
not fully strapped in. So then when the ride went
it operates kind of similar to Tower and Terror, you know
those free fall drop rides. Okay, so when the ride started,
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you know, everybody's screaming, they're not really paying attention. The
ride comes to an end, and then her family members
realize she's not in her seat, and then they see
her at the bottom of the ride because she fell
out of the seat.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Oh my god, I can't even imagine. Like the uncle
was just like, yeah, I turned around to see if
she was enjoying the ride, to see the little look
on her face, and she was gone. Could you freakin
imagine that?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
No, So they think she fell about one hundred and
ten feet to the bottom of the ride, which is
so far. But yeah, the family at that time had
filed a wrongful debt suit and they've now been awarded
two hundred and five million dollars. Well, another worst part
of it is is that when they discovered that the
girl was missing, they started screaming to stop the ride,
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and they still brought them back up again to do
the drop again. Could you.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I just can't even imagine. And I'm glad that they're
winning a lawsuit because this is one hundred percent lawsuit
where the you know, every this is the thing every
single time my kids go on rides. Like people might
think that I'm a total crazy person, because I am,
but I checked to make when they get on. I
just checked and say pull your seatbelt up, pull your
harness up, like I want to physically see that this
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is checked because you have especially down the shore. It's
all kids that are running these rides. They're teenage kids
that are running it, and they're just not paying attention
like that that you would hope they were. So even
though this ride took into account for that and had
safety mechanisms in place, they still got they still got
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overlooked and missed. And then this kid ended up dying
from it, which is just it's so terrible, what a
terrible thing for the whole entire family to go through.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Well, personally, I don't think that you should be able
to override the system's settings. You should just shut the
ride down if it's not letting you operate it or
it says there's an error, Yeah, you should not be
to override that and keep it going.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
This is what we were talking about this weekend when
we had Caroline and Lyle over and their kids.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
When we were talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I said, I personally feel safe for going on rides
at Disney World because I feel like they have so
much to lose if someone gets hurt. And it's I
feel like it's true because there I just maybe it's
a false sense of security, but I think that they
just overdo everything to make sure that nothing like that
ever happens because of imagine, imagine now with the social media,
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the visual of something like that happening and that being
caught on film, it would ruin somewhere like Disney or something,
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
So they have like the PR.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
They don't want the PR crisis, so they go out
of their way with just extra safety features and rules
and things like that. And this particular case is just
especially that the kid was was with the with her
uncle and not the parent, you know what I mean.
Like it's just think about like going on after that
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and all the what ifs, and like I shouldn't have
taken her on that ride. And this is my fault,
and she'd be alive still if I didn't bring her,
you know, just like I can't imagine what the family
went through with that.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well. I don't know if you looked up pictures of
the park, but it is this gorgeous amusement park in
the middle of Colorado in the mountains. It's so cool looking.
But after hearing an incident like this and it's seeming
like total negligence on behalf of the park, I don't
know if I could ever trust going on anything there. Yeah, no,
I agree, all right. So this TikTok is going viral
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showing a woman on a cruise water slide with part
of the slide hanging over the edge of the boat
and she appears to be stuck. I can't imagine how
terrifying this must be.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It looks so scary and she's like scooting her body
trying to get through. And the comments are hilarious on this.
Actually some person said that it was did you.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
See that one? I'm trying to see.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Oh, so it's a water slide that goes over the ocean,
and someone called it a death.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Tube over shark soup. It really, it really is.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
So I guess this particular water slide. Although it wasn't
mentioned in the TikTok, many people figured out which cruise
ship it was from, and they describe it as hanging
eleven feet off of the side of the ship and
one hundred and fifty nine feet above the ocean, and
it's a clear tube, clear ish tube that you could
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kind of see through. So the company offered a statement
that said that the slide shows in the footage features
and escape patch for guests who exit safely when they
cannot complete an experience due to factors like not wearing
the recommended swim attire or weight of the guests, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Well, why would you let those people on If you
know there's potential issues that you have to have a
safety escape patch, then why let those people go on
this slide? So that's the escape patch that sis in. No,
she probably had to crawl a little further because I
assumed the escape patch had to be on the ship
somewhere in the ship. You can't get out over the ocean.
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That's that's what I was confused about.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
But on top of that, I mean, obviously I didn't
get to analyze this situation one hundred percent, but just
based on the video, she doesn't look too skinny or
too fat. She looks like she's wearing a normal bathing suit.
What the problem looks like to me is that there's
no water in the frickin' tube. There's no water coming
through the tube, and usually it's gushing.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Well, you know what. It reminded me too of a
couple of weeks ago when we had the story that
there was that giant hole in the water slide. Oh
my god, and thinking about you know, that potentially happening
and falling into the ocean. I mean, at that point,
you're just a gone. I just don't like water slides.
I don't like cruise ships. I don't like going outside.
(17:55):
I don't like fun. Well, your mother is going on
another cruise, so we can make fun that we're not.
Lily sent me some video the other day of all
this water I guess coming from the pool deck because
you know, all these cruise ships are out right now,
but those two hurricanes are in the middle of the
ocean right now, so the water is really rough and
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they're just showing like all these dishes flying off the wall,
this pool water spelling, and people, you know, just not
being able to gain their balance because the boat is
rocking so bad, and I just don't understand the appeal
of it. It was nice the boat. The boat ride
was nice, yeah, because we had perfect water. Imagine if
it was rocky.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I don't want to think about it, all right. So
your favorite ride, the Zipper, had a major malfunction at
a carnival in Las Vegas over the weekend where one
of the carriages just fell off the ride in the
middle of it and slammed into another one.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I hate that ride. That's like one of my right
story when I was thirty. Yeah, when I was thirteen
years old. So this is uh fa, I guess you
would say it's a Ferris wheel that goes a little bit.
Is that what it is? It's it's similar, Yeah, it's
half Ferris. It's it's like a Ferris. Yeah, it's like
a smaller Ferris root wheel, but it goes around in
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that motion, but it goes fast.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And the canes flipped too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Each individual car is like a cage and it flips
upside down as it's going around the circle. So of
course I went on one at a carnival ride when
I was thirteen years old and through my mouth filled
up with vomit and I had to let it out
and it went all over my friend next to me,
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who's not my friend anymore. So I could imagine how
that went down. But I remember, you know what, it
was in the parking lot at the Chelon Mall when
the Chelon Mall was the thing, and I remember that
I went up to a couple of the stands that
were like selling popcorn and stuff and no one had
napkins and I had to go in Boss Gobs or
whatever the store was at the time and get something
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because I had puke all over me.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
It was terrible.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
And that was I didn't have a phone or anything
because that was you know before that, so I had
to call momm and pop up on a payphone and
tell them to come pick me up. It was just
so anyway, every single time I saw that ride, I
was like, that's like extra spinny.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I can't go on that thing. Like kind couldn't believe
it because they it looks really bad in the video
and they said no injuries were reported, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And it just said that there was a malfunction, and
I'm like, no, the car fell off of the ride.
I don't know what the malfunction is. It looks like
they were slamming into each other. I mean, I'm sure
people got banged up in bruises, but luckily nobody got
seriously hurt.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't know. I know everybody already makes fun of
me for the way I am, But whenever I see
those rides, do you ever see them driving on the
highway when they're going to set up? I'm just like,
these rides are getting set up and broken down so often,
how are they possibly stable? Well?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I actually wanted to mention that big because there's so
carnival rides, which I don't think many people know. They
don't have federal inspections like other rides do. So we
were talking about the ride in the first case, which
was terrible, which those rides actually have federal inspections, and
there were safety features on that ride, but you could
still see that human error took a part in that,
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and it was there's nothing wrong with that first ride
that we talked about at all. It was functioning properly.
It was an operator error that caused that child to die.
There was nothing wrong with the ride itself. Because of
these federal regulations, whereas with amusement rides, they not only
don't have federal regulations so they don't have to have
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safety inspections like that, but on top of that, they're
being assembled and reassembled all the time, and they're in
different environments which we know, like, for example, the rides
down the shore are more prone to getting erosion because
of the salt quality in the air. But if you're
going from like an environment that humid with a high
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salt quality in the air, and then you go to
the desert with the same rides, like you're the materials
expanding and contracting and things like that, like that all
has to be taken into consideration. So there's just an
increased risk in general of those types of rides having problems.
And on top of that, there was this journal done,
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this journal called the medical Journal Clinical Pediatrics, and they
found that merry go rounds and carousels and rides that
are considered to be like safe account for twenty percent
of the accidents that are seen and the injuries that
are seen with rides. And so when you go to
a carnival, you always look and you're like, Okay, they're
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not like super major If I fell off one, it
wouldn't it would hurt, but I wouldn't die or something
like that, you know, and that actually accounts for more injuries.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
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Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone.
Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we are
going to talk about Violet afflex message to the world,
about masking, a circus performer who plummeted to their death,
(00:31):
and the dangers of amusement rides. All that and more
on titday's episode. Let's get started with Violet Affleck.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
So, for those of you who aren't familiar, she is
the nineteen year old daughter of Ben Affleck and Jennifer Gardner.
So she went to the UN last week to discuss
clean air and urge the government to bring back mask mandates.
How do you feel about this?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I just I actually feel bad for this kid because
I think that she's completely out of her mind and
I just can't imagine that her parents are letting her
do this.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well, yeah, and there's a lot like there's really like,
are there people right now that are just like you
should be wearing a mask at all times?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
I mean I know there are, but.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Everywhere I go I see people, not everyone, but I
see a handful of people wearing them when you go out.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
It's sad what has been done during this pandemic to
people to make them think that they need to wear
a mask all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
I just feel really bad for people like that. See,
It's like I could get behind her with the Clean
Air Initiative, right, And she's using the example of how
positive it was when we took smoking out of indoor
areas like restaurants, airplanes, et cetera. And I understand that,
and I get behind that, But I think the mass
criticism she's getting is a that her father is like
(01:55):
a Cereal chain smoker, always smoking in every single environment.
And how are you trying to urge the government to
make changes when you can't even convince your dad to
make a change. And then I also saw Megan McCain
was criticizing her, saying, you know, she's also the daughter
of famous people, and her parents would have never let
(02:15):
her go up on a stage at such a young age,
with having no background at all and talk about such
serious topics. It's so I think, you know, she could
potentially have a good message with the Clean Air Initiative,
but I think a lot of people are just looking
at it as she's this NEPO baby with no background
whatsoever in the science behind all of this and she
(02:35):
has no reason to be up there talking to these people.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It just the whole thing of it just kind of
blows my mind because you're like, they're only there X
amount of minutes and you're giving this person with this
message this time to talk. There's nothing else in the
world that was more pressing than this right now. Well,
I think the big question too, is how did she
(03:00):
even get there? Because her parents are Ben Affleck and
Jennifer Gardner like that, I know, but.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
That's like the criticism is that a normal person that's
she's she's marked as a youth advocate there right, A
normal youth advocate that's a regular, everyday person would not
be able to go up there and speak like that.
So it's just like, I think a lot of people
are seeing it as something embarrassing, not just she was.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Doesn't it doesn't like you're saying the whole clean air
thing and all. It just doesn't make any sense to me.
It's just like, Okay, lady, if you want to wear
a mask, wear a mask. Like she's trying to tell
the government that everybody should wear a mask at all time,
Like she's out of her mind. That's that's out of
your mind talk.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But also if you have, if you have like a
breathing issue because of poor air, don't live in Los Angeles,
which has notoriously horrible air pollution. I just see it
as ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I just see it as not think if you want
to if any person like you see people all the
time in their car by themselves with a mask with
the windows up, like, if you want to do that, fine,
go ahead. But but like for the rest for the
rest of us seeing people here, no, and there is
there is definitely a time and a place for it,
that time and place being people who are immunosuppressed and
(04:22):
need to have wear something like in n ninety five,
like one of one of the guys that goes to
my kid's school has cancer, right, and I saw him
at one of the back to school events the other
night wearing one. Totally appropriate because you're immuno suppressed and
you should be wearing one. Everyone else like, absolutely not.
And it it really you know, if COVID never happened,
(04:45):
people would think that vilet afflic was completely out of
her mind, right, Like every single person would be like
this is this is outrageous that this girl's even saying that,
but now that COVID happened, which by the way, is
just as transmissible as like so many other things that
occurred before COVID, Like, it's just not it's nothing to me.
And the fact that so many people are just actually
(05:08):
sitting there and even listening to it is really disturbing
to me that they're letting her do that and she's
embarrassing herself.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well yeah, and I think of you know, when people
have a lot of issues with NEPO babies. I think
situations like this. I don't think in every case just
because somebody has famous parents doesn't mean they haven't worked
hard and haven't earned where they are in their spot
and whatever. But when you see situations like this, you're like,
why is this kid up there? What is she talking about?
(05:39):
And from the news outlets I've seen in the social
media response, I don't think very many people thought she
was being this hero that she thought she was being.
It's it scares me.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I feel like I'm saying, I feel terrible for her,
I really do, and her her it's her parents' responsibility
to be like sweetheart.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Now, No, well I don't. The way it comes across
to me is that Jennifer Gardner's totally behind her with this,
and I don't know how present of the parent Ben
Affleck is there anything, but like he's clearly not taking
your advice. He's always photographed smoking cigarettes everywhere he goes.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
The funny thing is is that she keeps saying that
I guess she's suffering from symptoms of long COVID, which
I've like, honestly, I've never looked into enough to know
if it's you know, people say they're having all these
symptoms or whatever she's saying, and you know, some of
the symptoms that she's having include shortness of breath and
(06:39):
trouble concentrating in these things. And I'm just like, could
it be because you're wearing a mask all day? Is
that possible? Well, I wasn't just putting it out there,
Like listen, I've had to wear one for work several times,
like for actual reasons, for to prevent getting TB from
either a specimen or an autopsy, And it's just more
(06:59):
difficult to breathe when you're wearing them all day long
at work. Like I don't care what anybody says it is.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I mean, yeah, when I think back to the height
of COVID the summer of twenty twenty. I'm working at
the restaurant. It's hot outside. We had to wear them.
It was terrible. Everybody felt like they were going to
pass out all the time.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, So, I mean, I just think I think a
lot of people do it because they're just I think
of a lot of the times. It's sometimes like I
like to wear my glasses, like I feel like if
I don't have them on, I feel like naked or something.
It's just weird. Maybe that's how they feel. They just
feel like safer with it on their face. And like, listen,
(07:37):
like I don't give a shit if people wear them,
they could do whatever they want. But to come on
there and try to act like like like were they
actually listening to what she was saying. She wants all
children to be wearing those things all the time. Well,
I think nobody should have even let that get said
out loud on a stage.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It's just outrageous. Well, I think that's why, in part
why she's get you know, criticized, because I think if
you had a legitimate scientist go up there and be
like we've conducted all these studies and provided all this
scientific backing and presented a credible argument, you would be
taken a little more seriously. I mean, of course you
should still take the consideration it under.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
There's no scientist that's ever going to get up and
say that, because it's so outrageous, Like you're the teenage
child of two movie stars, so and you're, yeah, you
go to Yale, but for what.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I don't I just I don't know. I just think
it was ridiculous, Okay. On Saturday, a twenty seven year
old circus acrobat was doing a solo trapeze act in
front of one hundred people when suddenly she fell sixteen
feet and died. Did you see the video? I didn't.
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
It's you know, I was thinking when when I read it,
sixteen feet isn't really that high. I mean it's high,
Like I don't ever, I don't want to from sixteen
feet for sure, but usually that results in maybe some
kind of traumatic injuries, broken bones, death is I don't
(09:06):
really know. But I mean she was swinging trapeeze, so
it's not a very clear video, so I couldn't see
exactly how she fell onto the ground. But if she fell,
I guess on her abdomen or her head. Even then
that could have definitely caused more severe problems which actually
happened to her because she's dead.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But I think there is speculation that maybe she had
like a health issue or something, because they're trying to
say that she was so experienced that in general, she
wouldn't have necessarily made a mistake like that, even though
she wasn't wearing a safety rope. But the fall wasn't
that high, So I think that's where everybody's kind of
coming in saying this seems unusual that she would have
(09:47):
just fallen. I mean, but you could fall from a
short distance like that and just hit your neck the
wrong way or something. Yeah, totally, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
It just we have another story actually in this episode
talking about someone that fell for a much greater distance,
which you could understand, you know, would cause life threatening injuries,
but in this case. You know, I've been a couple
of these acrobat shows and they're so good, they're just
so amazing, and I just watch the people and think,
(10:16):
if you really watch these people that right walk on
the tightrope and all this stuff, and they don't have
any kind of harness, it's just it's really, really amazing
that there's not more things like that that happen.
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Speaker 1 (11:10):
All right, So now we have a string of stories
about things that happen on recreational rides.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
All right. So back in twenty twenty one, the six
year old girl went on the Haunted Mind Drop at
Glenwood Cavern's Adventure Park in Colorado with some family members.
So when they were getting on the ride, there's this
safety feature built into the ride that'll let the operators
know if something is off with the seatbelts or the ride.
So that system was going off and they kept repeatedly
(11:39):
checking it but didn't see an issue, so then they
over they ended up overriding it and sending the ride
along its way. But they didn't realize that this girl
was sitting on top of part of the seatbelt and
not fully strapped in. So then when the ride went
it operates kind of similar to Tower and Terror, you know
those free fall drop rides. Okay, so when the ride started,
(12:03):
you know, everybody's screaming, they're not really paying attention. The
ride comes to an end, and then her family members
realize she's not in her seat, and then they see
her at the bottom of the ride because she fell
out of the seat.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Oh my god, I can't even imagine. Like the uncle
was just like, yeah, I turned around to see if
she was enjoying the ride, to see the little look
on her face, and she was gone. Could you freakin
imagine that?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
No, So they think she fell about one hundred and
ten feet to the bottom of the ride, which is
so far. But yeah, the family at that time had
filed a wrongful debt suit and they've now been awarded
two hundred and five million dollars. Well, another worst part
of it is is that when they discovered that the
girl was missing, they started screaming to stop the ride,
(12:50):
and they still brought them back up again to do
the drop again. Could you.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I just can't even imagine. And I'm glad that they're
winning a lawsuit because this is one hundred percent lawsuit
where the you know, every this is the thing every
single time my kids go on rides. Like people might
think that I'm a total crazy person, because I am,
but I checked to make when they get on. I
just checked and say pull your seatbelt up, pull your
harness up, like I want to physically see that this
(13:17):
is checked because you have especially down the shore. It's
all kids that are running these rides. They're teenage kids
that are running it, and they're just not paying attention
like that that you would hope they were. So even
though this ride took into account for that and had
safety mechanisms in place, they still got they still got
(13:39):
overlooked and missed. And then this kid ended up dying
from it, which is just it's so terrible, what a
terrible thing for the whole entire family to go through.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Well, personally, I don't think that you should be able
to override the system's settings. You should just shut the
ride down if it's not letting you operate it or
it says there's an error, Yeah, you should not be
to override that and keep it going.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
This is what we were talking about this weekend when
we had Caroline and Lyle over and their kids.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
When we were talking about.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I said, I personally feel safe for going on rides
at Disney World because I feel like they have so
much to lose if someone gets hurt. And it's I
feel like it's true because there I just maybe it's
a false sense of security, but I think that they
just overdo everything to make sure that nothing like that
ever happens because of imagine, imagine now with the social media,
(14:33):
the visual of something like that happening and that being
caught on film, it would ruin somewhere like Disney or something,
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
So they have like the PR.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
They don't want the PR crisis, so they go out
of their way with just extra safety features and rules
and things like that. And this particular case is just
especially that the kid was was with the with her
uncle and not the parent, you know what I mean.
Like it's just think about like going on after that
(15:03):
and all the what ifs, and like I shouldn't have
taken her on that ride. And this is my fault,
and she'd be alive still if I didn't bring her,
you know, just like I can't imagine what the family
went through with that.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Well. I don't know if you looked up pictures of
the park, but it is this gorgeous amusement park in
the middle of Colorado in the mountains. It's so cool looking.
But after hearing an incident like this and it's seeming
like total negligence on behalf of the park, I don't
know if I could ever trust going on anything there. Yeah, no,
I agree, all right. So this TikTok is going viral
(15:34):
showing a woman on a cruise water slide with part
of the slide hanging over the edge of the boat
and she appears to be stuck. I can't imagine how
terrifying this must be.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It looks so scary and she's like scooting her body
trying to get through. And the comments are hilarious on this.
Actually some person said that it was did you.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
See that one? I'm trying to see.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Oh, so it's a water slide that goes over the ocean,
and someone called it a death.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Tube over shark soup. It really, it really is.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
So I guess this particular water slide. Although it wasn't
mentioned in the TikTok, many people figured out which cruise
ship it was from, and they describe it as hanging
eleven feet off of the side of the ship and
one hundred and fifty nine feet above the ocean, and
it's a clear tube, clear ish tube that you could
(16:30):
kind of see through. So the company offered a statement
that said that the slide shows in the footage features
and escape patch for guests who exit safely when they
cannot complete an experience due to factors like not wearing
the recommended swim attire or weight of the guests, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Well, why would you let those people on If you
know there's potential issues that you have to have a
safety escape patch, then why let those people go on
this slide? So that's the escape patch that sis in. No,
she probably had to crawl a little further because I
assumed the escape patch had to be on the ship
somewhere in the ship. You can't get out over the ocean.
(17:12):
That's that's what I was confused about.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
But on top of that, I mean, obviously I didn't
get to analyze this situation one hundred percent, but just
based on the video, she doesn't look too skinny or
too fat. She looks like she's wearing a normal bathing suit.
What the problem looks like to me is that there's
no water in the frickin' tube. There's no water coming
through the tube, and usually it's gushing.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Well, you know what. It reminded me too of a
couple of weeks ago when we had the story that
there was that giant hole in the water slide. Oh
my god, and thinking about you know, that potentially happening
and falling into the ocean. I mean, at that point,
you're just a gone. I just don't like water slides.
I don't like cruise ships. I don't like going outside.
(17:55):
I don't like fun. Well, your mother is going on
another cruise, so we can make fun that we're not.
Lily sent me some video the other day of all
this water I guess coming from the pool deck because
you know, all these cruise ships are out right now,
but those two hurricanes are in the middle of the
ocean right now, so the water is really rough and
(18:17):
they're just showing like all these dishes flying off the wall,
this pool water spelling, and people, you know, just not
being able to gain their balance because the boat is
rocking so bad, and I just don't understand the appeal
of it. It was nice the boat. The boat ride
was nice, yeah, because we had perfect water. Imagine if
it was rocky.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I don't want to think about it, all right. So
your favorite ride, the Zipper, had a major malfunction at
a carnival in Las Vegas over the weekend where one
of the carriages just fell off the ride in the
middle of it and slammed into another one.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I hate that ride. That's like one of my right
story when I was thirty. Yeah, when I was thirteen
years old. So this is uh fa, I guess you
would say it's a Ferris wheel that goes a little bit.
Is that what it is? It's it's similar, Yeah, it's
half Ferris. It's it's like a Ferris. Yeah, it's like
a smaller Ferris root wheel, but it goes around in
(19:13):
that motion, but it goes fast.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And the canes flipped too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Each individual car is like a cage and it flips
upside down as it's going around the circle. So of
course I went on one at a carnival ride when
I was thirteen years old and through my mouth filled
up with vomit and I had to let it out
and it went all over my friend next to me,
(19:37):
who's not my friend anymore. So I could imagine how
that went down. But I remember, you know what, it
was in the parking lot at the Chelon Mall when
the Chelon Mall was the thing, and I remember that
I went up to a couple of the stands that
were like selling popcorn and stuff and no one had
napkins and I had to go in Boss Gobs or
whatever the store was at the time and get something
(19:59):
because I had puke all over me.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
It was terrible.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
And that was I didn't have a phone or anything
because that was you know before that, so I had
to call momm and pop up on a payphone and
tell them to come pick me up. It was just
so anyway, every single time I saw that ride, I
was like, that's like extra spinny.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I can't go on that thing. Like kind couldn't believe
it because they it looks really bad in the video
and they said no injuries were reported, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And it just said that there was a malfunction, and
I'm like, no, the car fell off of the ride.
I don't know what the malfunction is. It looks like
they were slamming into each other. I mean, I'm sure
people got banged up in bruises, but luckily nobody got
seriously hurt.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I don't know. I know everybody already makes fun of
me for the way I am, But whenever I see
those rides, do you ever see them driving on the
highway when they're going to set up? I'm just like,
these rides are getting set up and broken down so often,
how are they possibly stable? Well?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I actually wanted to mention that big because there's so
carnival rides, which I don't think many people know. They
don't have federal inspections like other rides do. So we
were talking about the ride in the first case, which
was terrible, which those rides actually have federal inspections, and
there were safety features on that ride, but you could
still see that human error took a part in that,
(21:20):
and it was there's nothing wrong with that first ride
that we talked about at all. It was functioning properly.
It was an operator error that caused that child to die.
There was nothing wrong with the ride itself. Because of
these federal regulations, whereas with amusement rides, they not only
don't have federal regulations so they don't have to have
(21:40):
safety inspections like that, but on top of that, they're
being assembled and reassembled all the time, and they're in
different environments which we know, like, for example, the rides
down the shore are more prone to getting erosion because
of the salt quality in the air. But if you're
going from like an environment that humid with a high
(22:01):
salt quality in the air, and then you go to
the desert with the same rides, like you're the materials
expanding and contracting and things like that, like that all
has to be taken into consideration. So there's just an
increased risk in general of those types of rides having problems.
And on top of that, there was this journal done,
(22:22):
this journal called the medical Journal Clinical Pediatrics, and they
found that merry go rounds and carousels and rides that
are considered to be like safe account for twenty percent
of the accidents that are seen and the injuries that
are seen with rides. And so when you go to
a carnival, you always look and you're like, Okay, they're
(22:43):
not like super major If I fell off one, it
wouldn't it would hurt, but I wouldn't die or something
like that, you know, and that actually accounts for more injuries.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Interesting. All right, guys, Well, we're going to be at
the Wildlife CSI I linked to Bias Wildlife Park this
Friday evening and then the following weekend will be sponsoring
the golf Carts and Keeping Hope Alive Golf Classic. And
after that on the eighteenth, will be at Darkside, New
Jersey in Edison. Awesome. See you guys. Yeah, head over
to avla, Spotify, leave us for review scripture YouTube channel,
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master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.
I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed
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