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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On this episode, we're
going to talk about something that has not talked about much,
period stains. A defective water bottle that has caused blindness,
(00:31):
a physical therapist burned alive in his own hyperbaric oxygen chamber,
a can joined twin that recently announced that she was married,
and the dark history of the Candyland game. Let's talk
about period stains. We've all had them.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So photos started showing up on news outlets last week
of model Brooks Nader with period stains.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
On her white skirt.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So at first I saw it on TMC and was like,
are we serios still living in a society where somebody
had period stains by accident on their clothes and we're
like blowing up their spot. But apparently she posted the
photos herself.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, And I love that because I think that every
single woman could say that they've definitely had to deal
with that at some point in their life. I specifically
remember having an incident at school. I remember you had
an incident at school too, where Gabe had to bring
you clothes. I mean wearing white when you have your
period is brave. Well, white ever is brave.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Honestly, when she was at Wimbledon and she did capture
you were white to Wimbledon, I guess because she said
tries to be chic, starts period at Wimbledon, So I
don't think she knew it was coming. Sometimes it hit
you unexpectedly, and then she wanted to, you know, break
the stigma that it's embarrassing. I think when you're a
drop dead gorgeous model, it's a little less embarrassing than
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if you're a normal person like us and you're out
in public and get it.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
But first it was also barely like I've had them
that it's just like, I mean, it doesn't even matter
anymore because I'm wearing black pants ninety nine percent of
the time. But I'm like, if I was wearing even
regular jeans, like holy shit, that would be it looks
like a massacre, Like it doesn't look like a little
(02:20):
tiny brown spot, right.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I mean even at the meat and greet, I was
wearing black pants but a white shirt, and I was
like hemorrhaging that day, and I was like, watch this
go shirt somehow because it just happens like that. I
don't think I'd ever be brave enough to wear white pants. Seriously,
even if I couldn't get my period, like I was
older at menopause, like definitely wasn't getting it anymore, I
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don't think i'd be brave enough to wear them.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I wore a white jacket to the lecture at the
Georgia Writers Museum, and you saw me on the way there.
I was drinking a nice coffee and I took the
jacket off. And then we went to the Mexican restaurant
and I was so scared I was just gonna get
something on it, like I'm just me and white. I'm
too sloppy to be a white person.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Then you had like salsa on your chin. I was like,
how did this even get here?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I don't I don't even understand why I would ever
decide to wear white. But I mean, this is a
thing that so many women go through, and you know,
I was looking this up and because I feel like,
I mean, right now, I'm barely having anything. But when
I was younger, I had a heavy flow, and so
did you, and so did like every single person I know.
(03:30):
And you know this bullshit that they tell you it's
like two to three tablespoons a month. It seem like
a laugh, but it's only two to three tablespoons. No,
just like I'm just like, bitch, I've had like two cups.
Like what are you talking in one day? Yeah, exactly. Like,
so they're saying that normal is supposed to be thirty
to forty millilters, which ends up being two to three tablespoons,
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and then you a little bit moderate is four. And
then they're saying anything over over that is considered to
be excessive heavy menstrual bleeding, which is five tablespoons or more.
And I'm just thinking, like, listen, I believe that it's
possible because they sell those tampons that are like literally
like a pencil, you know, the ones that they put
in all the vending machines in the.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Bathrooms and stuff. I'm jealous of people that could use this.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I need to get like four of them in the
row and stick them up there, like that's seriously how
it used to be for me. Remember they started selling
those like dildo sized tampons. Though they were the best
we had to they only had them at Walmart and
we had to get them. They were called like super
Plus Ultra. They were like, seriously, like a tampon dildo.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, I'm even sitting here thinking, like I feel like
I have a heavy flow. But then when I'm at
the end of metriosis doctors, she's like, well, how often
are you filling a tampon? I'm like, I don't know,
like every two to three hours, and she's like, that's
not heavy. I'm talking about like you fill it in
twenty minutes, like a big one.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Now. That used to happen to mom. Mom, it was terrible.
She went before she got her hysterectomy. She used to
have to you know those those blue things from the
hospital that are called a chuck. It's like a blue
piece of plastic with like cotton on it. I don't
think it's like it that. It's like, I don't know.
You just put it down for like the sterile area
(05:15):
of when you're using something or whatever. So it's plastic
at the bottom, so it's it's blue so it doesn't
leak as much, and then the cotton absorbs it. She
used to put them on her car seat when she
was driving to and from work because like she would
bleed through that fist like a pad and a tampon.
It's it is so crazy with some women go through.
So now they have those period pad underwear, which I'm
(05:40):
thinking like if you use a really big tampon and
you add the period pad underwear, that might help prevent
from leaks. I definitely think like once my kids start
with hers, like I would consider getting that for them
for school because it's so embarrassing when that happens. You
know it is.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I mean, like I applaud when she's trying to do
posting these pictures, but I also think she's, you know,
a sports illustrated bottel. She's dropped it gorgeous. So I
think when you are like that, it's a little easier
to have embarrassing things happen to you and people not
care as much. But when you're like thirteen years old
and you're at school and it happens and you need
new pants, I don't think your classmates are as forgiving so.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And you're all like pimply engross and like it's it's
definitely not a cute little red dot. It's like all
on the seat and stuff. It's just terrible.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And I'm sure the two percent of male listeners we
have listening to this are extremely uncomfortable by the period chat,
but get over it because we have to deal with
it every month and it sucks. But now you do too,
and now you do too. It's part of like literally
part of our monthly life. So like, what do you
up from us? I don't feel like I should have
(06:49):
to keep it a secret because it makes you uncomfortable,
deal with it. Okay. Walmart has recalled eight hundred and
fifty thousand stainless steel water bottles after two people became
permanently blind from the lids, ejecting, I thought you were.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Gonna say they have they have banned dildo sized tampons.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I haven't seen them, to be honest, and I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I haven't used them in years, but I remember that
was the only place that sold them, which was interesting.
Like what is it about women of Walmart that have
these large, heavy flows and big vaginas. I don't know,
but thank you Walmart for filling that part of my life. Okay, Yeah,
water bottles under pressure. I guess this happens if especially
(07:33):
if you put like fizzy water in this thing, the
lid could pop off and shoot you. Has caused permanent
eye injuries to people. It's kind of amazing that it
had to happen to one person. Imagine being the second
person it happened to and been like, oh cool, you
knew that this happened and you still kept it on
here like awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, I understand it happening with carbonated beverages, but they're
saying there was a possibility it could happen with still
beverages like water, juice or milk. So I don't understand
how that would build enough pressure to shoot it because
it's like shooting off like a champagne bottle is I guess.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Any time that you have. I don't think it could
happen with water per se, but things that I mean,
especially think about milk. It's it kind of can go sour.
It creates gas and it could pop. I mean, that's
happened before that. You open and it's like you know
something like that. If listen, like I just left by
(08:26):
accident one of my ice coffee cups in my car
in this summer, it's one hundred degrees outside for two days,
and I put it in the sink and gave open
it and was like, oh my god, what is this?
And I was like, oh, I forgot it was in
there for a couple of days and it's just like
so nasty. And you know, so it just happens sometimes
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and they don't tell you what circumstances it happens under,
but like you don't ever think that something like that's
gonna happen. So there's something not right. I would think
it was screwing on, but I guess it's just one
of those pushed on ones.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well. I wanted to say, like I wonder how statistically
how many people get black eyes or vision issues from
opening champagne because people really don't know how to open it.
I mean from working in the bar, I learned a
way to open it better, but it's still not super easy,
depending on what bottle you have.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, yeah, I get that, it really, it really is,
and it's fir. People times do.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Not understand when you untwist the cage, you immediately put
your hand on top of the cork until you're ready
to start taking it out, and you shouldn't push it
out like people's show on like movies and.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
TV, Yeah, because you're like aiming it at something.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Basically, you grab, you take the cage off, you put
your hand on top of the cork. You put your
other hand on the bottom of the bottle tilted at
a forty degree angle, and you hold the cork and
you twist the bottle. You don't pull the cork.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Not as dramatic. Let's talk about this, this guy with
the hyperbaric oxygen chamber, because didn't we have one of
these cases a few months ago with the kid.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, this is not the kid. But this guy was
a forty three year old physical therapist. He owned the practice,
and he went in the hyperbary chamber by himself at
eleven o'clock at night.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I would assume when you go in them.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
You have to have somebody else monitoring. No, like I
would assume with the big machine, got a one person system.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
No, it probably, it probably could be. It probably can
be a one person system. But for safety purposes, just
like we're talking about right now. Let's say that the
fire happened and there was somebody else there. There might
have been a chance that he would have been able
to get out quicker if someone was there to assist.
(10:42):
I don't know. Like these things are known for for
trap It like people get trapped inside because of the pressure.
It's like not easy for them to get out of
it once there's an issue, and they are very flammable.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, and then I guess the flame was inside of
it and he just got burned alive in there. So
like I don't I just really don't understand what happened.
I guess the machine itself could fail. But whenever you
have a fire, you need to have like three basic things,
which is the fuel and the oxygen. And that's why
(11:19):
when you're in a high oxygen situation, it's like you
want to make sure that there's not the third element,
which is a flame anywhere, because the oxygen's so high
that it makes it extremely more likely to catch fire.
I just don't know what caused the initial the initial spark,
(11:39):
but I guess it could have been a problem you
have machinery or whatever it was. But and they don't
even know why he was in it.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Well, I mean people do this. People are like addicted
to these things and they swear by them.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Even when I plugged in my computer charger today to
just record this show, it sparks, you know. So maybe
it was just something small like that around an outlet
and then because of the conditions than this freak thing
just happens.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, and then and then the firefire fighters described it
as a fiery coffin like ikes, I know, he was
pronounced dead, so obviously he was like burned to a crisp.
That's terrible, so scary. So when we were talking about
it last time, I feel like it was people were
using the hyperbaric oxygen for none what you would say
(12:27):
like FDA approved means. So usually you would use this
in cases of like decompressing sickness like we talked about
with the diving incidents, or you would use it in
cases where you have wounds that aren't healing well because
that increased oxygen air helps it get to the tissue
quicker than just breathing normal air, and then in theory,
(12:49):
like your wounds should heal better. I mean, it's not
in theory like it actually works. But some people are
using it for things like the case of the little kid.
It was like he was being treated for like ADHD
and autism or something like that. It's used a lot
for off label uses, so they don't really know. I mean,
it would be normal to have something like this in
a physical therapist's office, but what was he using it for?
(13:12):
They don't exactly know why.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
This episode is brought to you by the Gross Room.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
So speaking of hyperbaric oxygen chamber accidents, we have a
lot of cases in the Gross Room that have to
do with people needing those. We have this one called
Insta Muscles, which is crazy and shows a lot of
different things that could happen when you are having decompression
sickness and reasons why someone would need to go into
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hyperbaric oxygen chamber. Obviously the one we just did a
few weeks ago, the Buy for Dolphin accident, also another
case of decompression sickness if those people actually survived and
they would definitely need to go into something like this.
And we also have a case of frostbite called a
(14:06):
Series of Unfortunate Events, because that literally is what happened.
You're just like, how does this happen to one person?
But also that person needed to use one of these
chambers as well, so you could learn a lot about
why people use these and how they're helpful in medicine
and injury. Unfortunately, on this program we're just talking about
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really terrible things that happen with it, but it also
can be super helpful as well. We are going to
be working on this week. I think there was a
really interesting case that happened years ago around here about
little kids that went missing for and the ending was shocking.
They all died, but it was a really crazy ending.
So we're going to be writing up about that in
(14:47):
the Gross Room pretty soon, unless there's any kind of
breaking celebrity or high profile death this week. I mean, god,
I feel like last week was just a lot of
news between like Diddy and Coburger and stuff. So if
anything breaking happens with any of that stuff, of course
we'll cover that in the Gross Room as well.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Head over to the Grossroom dot com now to sign up.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
All right, So this subject is super super interesting to me.
We've also written about this a bunch of times in
the Gross Room about conjoin twins, because it's so it's
such a crazy life to have, and it's so intriguing
to just think about being stuck next to someone every
single moment and second of your life and what that's like.
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And people are just interested from anything that has to
do with like sitting on the toilet and taking a
shower to having sex with somebody in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I guess when in this case, it's just your entire life, right,
you just get so used to it. It's not like
twenty years and you had to now be permanently attached
to somebody. So this is really interesting. So this conjoined twin,
Carmen Andra, she just realy announced that she married her
boyfriend of five years back in October. But she made
(16:05):
a clear distinction that she is married and her twin
is not.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, and her twin has I mean, this has been
years that her twin has been saying that she's a
sexual and apparently she gets along with the now husband
of her sister. But I have so many questions, like
just so many questions about this, Like they have one
female genital track, so that means they share a vagina,
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and they share a uterus and everything else. And they're
not able to have a baby because they have endometriosis
so bad apparently and have been. We're also put on
puberty blockers during childhood, so they can't get pregnant. So
that isn't a question as it will be with another
set of conjoined twins we'll talk about, but just it
(16:57):
just brings up so many interesting questions about like that
that's her vagina still I guess they're having a sexual
relationship the other sister. The other sister, Lupita, claims she's
asexual and she never had any desire to get married.
So I guess you would say, physically, you know, she's
(17:19):
gonna feel the penetration. I'm sure she feels if there's
like an orgasm or something, but I guess mentally she's
she blocks it out because I don't like and they
don't have to explain how it works, like during the
act itself, but like, but I want to, I really
want to know that.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I know, from a scientist perspective, you want to know,
but they don't owe it to us to explain it
to that. But it is an interesting concept to think
about because I would think if you were conjoined twin
and you were gonna get married, that that person's effectively
marrying both of you. But in this case, it's just
not what's happening. So that's what makes us fascinating. Well,
I mean, they could say all they want, but like
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the girl is attached to her, like he's married to both.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Of them, I know.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
But what I'm getting at is like they have two
separate brains, so like the one of them is not
there emotionally with the other guy. So at first, before
I finished reading the article, I was like, well, what
happens if she wants to marry another person and what
happens if one of them wants to have a baby.
But I guess they've answered those questions. The other sister
(18:24):
does not want to be married to a different person,
and then a way she's married to them.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
This happened with Chang and Nang, but they were males,
so it's a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, I just I think the concept is so fascinating
of it, and I think it's really cool of the
one sister to be like, I don't want these things,
but my sister does, so, like we share a body
and I acknowledge that, but I want her to have
the thing she wants.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
One of the weird parts of the article that was
so so weird, it just like things you don't think about,
is that the sister that's married to to the husband
now said that sometimes she falls asleep and the other
one stays awake and they like stay up all night
and hang out and talk like it's just the whole
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thing is just so fascinating to me. The anatomy and
the physiology of it, right, I mean, just.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Like it's just a very unique life that is hard
for us to understand because it's like they since you know,
they are always saying twins have a very special bond in general,
but of course they're attached permanently, so like they just
live a life that so few people live. I mean,
of course there's other examples of conjoined twins that have
lived and been married and lived normal lives, but it
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is just so fascinating to see how they go about it.
I am interested in those details, like what you were
just saying, how one of them falls asleep and the
other one hangs out with the husband and stuff, and
you just have to everybody has to be on board
with everything going on at the same time because even
though it's technically two different people, it's one physical body,
so there has to be a lot of consent. Good
(20:04):
I really wish.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I mean, like I'm not trying to exploit them, because
like obviously everyone has interest in this. It's just like
I wish they would have a reality show and talk
about because I'm interested in him too, because the.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Other can join twins had a reality show.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
They did, but but they they talk about stuff, and
especially they were they were pretty much children and then
they were teenagers. But I don't know if it was
a show or just like a special on their life,
but they still they still don't. If you start asking
them questions about any of the sex stuff they get,
they automatically like don't want to talk about it. And
(20:44):
I just wish that there was someone that we could
really just hear from. Like I'm not trying to like
make fun of them or anything. I just like generally,
I'm just like very curious, and I'm like you were saying,
you grow up like that and you and you're used
to it, so that's fine, but like the guys not
so like what was it they met on like on
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Tinder or something or one of the what was it called?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
They lit on hinge. And what I found really sad
was that the one twin was saying that she never
hid their situation at all. She was always very open
about being a conjoint twin, which you have to beat
if you're gonna date somebody and be in an honest relationship,
even if you're going to meet them online, they have
to know exactly what's going on. So because you don't
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want to be in a weird situation either, And what
she was saying was that oftentimes she'd get messaged by
guys that had fetishes, and it's like these people, you
know already have this hardship in their life and they
just want to live a normal life.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Wait. I want to talk about Abigail and Brittany Hensel too,
because this is they are conjoined twins as well, and
one of them has recently got married within the past
couple of years, and the other says he has not
said anything about her being a sexual or not wanting
to get married, so I guess there is a possibility
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that that she would want to get married as well.
And what's different with their case is that, at least
when they're when they first started getting interviewed, when they
were children, her, their parents said that they shared a
reproductive system, and both of the girls have said that
they want to be a mom one day. Well, I
(22:28):
guess they have a similar anatomy that they're that you know,
they have one body that they're sharing in one reproductive system. Listen.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I don't think it's like a day of like, oh wow,
we're in this predicament. I think it's a lifelong understanding
of you know what you're comfortable with. You guys talk
to each other, and you know what your future is
going to look like if that door ever comes, if
the door ever opens to you, Like if one of
them gets married and there's the possible possibility for one
of them to for them to get pregnant as one body.
(22:57):
I'm sure they've already planned that out. It's not like
a we're thinking about having a baby. How do you
feel about it? I'm sure it's been thoroughly discussed.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Whose name goes on the birth certificate?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I don't know, because it's such a unique situation.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's really nuts, right, Like, I just this is all
the stuff I'm interested in.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
The problem is that Abby and Brittany had their show,
but it was done in a reality show type of way,
and I don't think what we need is a reality show.
I think we need an extremely tasteful documentary that follows
them and is like not making fun of them and
not trying to exploit them. I'm not saying that's necessarily
what the Abby and Brittany show is doing, but I
don't think it was like talking about the scientific component,
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the social component behind it, it's just like we're just
observing them like they're in a tank.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Did a little bit though, they because they went through
when they got they did when they were little kids
and how they would ride a bike and then they
taught that like what happened when they were driving, and
then even.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
As children, it's very different because as adults you're making
decisions like being in long term relationships, having babies, being
in a sexual relationship with somebody, those are very different.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
They don't I mean, they've said multiple times that they
just don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Well because I'm sure after they were on TV so
many people made fun of them, and it's fucked up.
I mean, it's not their fault. They're in this like
extremely unique situation.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, I got that.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Okay, let's talk about the dark history of Candyland. The
game has been out for seventy five years, and I
just learned today that it was invented to help children
who were suffering from polio.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah. So it's a really interesting story about a school
teacher who was on the Polio Award with children that
had a very rare side effect of having the polio
infection that was called poliomylitis, and that is when there
the virus targets nerve cells in the spinal cord that
is in control of the muscles of the body. So
(24:53):
not only would kids have their leg muscles would get
weakened and they would have a hard time walking, it
also could happen in the muscles of the neck and
the head and the diaphragm, which is why kids were
put into iron lungs at the time. It's really as
a person that didn't really live through polio, you know,
we hear about how terrible it was, and obviously it
(25:15):
was super terrible for the children that were affected, but
you don't really realize that most of the people that
got the polio virus didn't really get sick at all,
and if they did, it was just like a cold.
It was only one percent of kids and mostly children,
that would get this real horrible side effect that affected
their nerves, which was obviously what the motivation was in
(25:40):
finding a vaccination for that. But yeah, so this teacher
made this game. So if you look at the very
first board of it, it was like you have to
go through this candy forest and all these amazing things
to get home, and she was trying to just teach
them that, like they just had to stay there a
little bit longer and just try to get through this
and then they would eventually get home.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, and I thought it was cool because they were
showing the very first like design of the game and
it featured a boy wearing a leg breeze.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, it's really interesting and I never I had never
heard of that. I don't know why they decided on
doing an article on this right now. Was it like
an anniversary or something. The board game has obviously changed
over years, but it's been It has a really interesting
beginning and it's pretty cool story.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, it is all right, guys. Well, if you were
interested in crime con head over to the description of
this episode or the Grosser Room because we have some
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Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On this episode, we're
going to talk about something that has not talked about much,
period stains. A defective water bottle that has caused blindness,
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a physical therapist burned alive in his own hyperbaric oxygen chamber,
a can joined twin that recently announced that she was married,
and the dark history of the Candyland game. Let's talk
about period stains. We've all had them.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So photos started showing up on news outlets last week
of model Brooks Nader with period stains.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
On her white skirt.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
So at first I saw it on TMC and was like,
are we serios still living in a society where somebody
had period stains by accident on their clothes and we're
like blowing up their spot. But apparently she posted the
photos herself.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, And I love that because I think that every
single woman could say that they've definitely had to deal
with that at some point in their life. I specifically
remember having an incident at school. I remember you had
an incident at school too, where Gabe had to bring
you clothes. I mean wearing white when you have your
period is brave. Well, white ever is brave.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Honestly, when she was at Wimbledon and she did capture
you were white to Wimbledon, I guess because she said
tries to be chic, starts period at Wimbledon, So I
don't think she knew it was coming. Sometimes it hit
you unexpectedly, and then she wanted to, you know, break
the stigma that it's embarrassing. I think when you're a
drop dead gorgeous model, it's a little less embarrassing than
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if you're a normal person like us and you're out
in public and get it.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
But first it was also barely like I've had them
that it's just like, I mean, it doesn't even matter
anymore because I'm wearing black pants ninety nine percent of
the time. But I'm like, if I was wearing even
regular jeans, like holy shit, that would be it looks
like a massacre, Like it doesn't look like a little
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tiny brown spot, right.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
I mean even at the meat and greet, I was
wearing black pants but a white shirt, and I was
like hemorrhaging that day, and I was like, watch this
go shirt somehow because it just happens like that. I
don't think I'd ever be brave enough to wear white pants. Seriously,
even if I couldn't get my period, like I was
older at menopause, like definitely wasn't getting it anymore, I
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don't think i'd be brave enough to wear them.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I wore a white jacket to the lecture at the
Georgia Writers Museum, and you saw me on the way there.
I was drinking a nice coffee and I took the
jacket off. And then we went to the Mexican restaurant
and I was so scared I was just gonna get
something on it, like I'm just me and white. I'm
too sloppy to be a white person.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Then you had like salsa on your chin. I was like,
how did this even get here?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I don't I don't even understand why I would ever
decide to wear white. But I mean, this is a
thing that so many women go through, and you know,
I was looking this up and because I feel like,
I mean, right now, I'm barely having anything. But when
I was younger, I had a heavy flow, and so
did you, and so did like every single person I know.
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And you know this bullshit that they tell you it's
like two to three tablespoons a month. It seem like
a laugh, but it's only two to three tablespoons. No,
just like I'm just like, bitch, I've had like two cups.
Like what are you talking in one day? Yeah, exactly. Like,
so they're saying that normal is supposed to be thirty
to forty millilters, which ends up being two to three tablespoons,
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and then you a little bit moderate is four. And
then they're saying anything over over that is considered to
be excessive heavy menstrual bleeding, which is five tablespoons or more.
And I'm just thinking, like, listen, I believe that it's
possible because they sell those tampons that are like literally
like a pencil, you know, the ones that they put
in all the vending machines in the.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Bathrooms and stuff. I'm jealous of people that could use this.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I need to get like four of them in the
row and stick them up there, like that's seriously how
it used to be for me. Remember they started selling
those like dildo sized tampons. Though they were the best
we had to they only had them at Walmart and
we had to get them. They were called like super
Plus Ultra. They were like, seriously, like a tampon dildo.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, I'm even sitting here thinking, like I feel like
I have a heavy flow. But then when I'm at
the end of metriosis doctors, she's like, well, how often
are you filling a tampon? I'm like, I don't know,
like every two to three hours, and she's like, that's
not heavy. I'm talking about like you fill it in
twenty minutes, like a big one.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Now. That used to happen to mom. Mom, it was terrible.
She went before she got her hysterectomy. She used to
have to you know those those blue things from the
hospital that are called a chuck. It's like a blue
piece of plastic with like cotton on it. I don't
think it's like it that. It's like, I don't know.
You just put it down for like the sterile area
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of when you're using something or whatever. So it's plastic
at the bottom, so it's it's blue so it doesn't
leak as much, and then the cotton absorbs it. She
used to put them on her car seat when she
was driving to and from work because like she would
bleed through that fist like a pad and a tampon.
It's it is so crazy with some women go through.
So now they have those period pad underwear, which I'm
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thinking like if you use a really big tampon and
you add the period pad underwear, that might help prevent
from leaks. I definitely think like once my kids start
with hers, like I would consider getting that for them
for school because it's so embarrassing when that happens. You
know it is.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I mean, like I applaud when she's trying to do
posting these pictures, but I also think she's, you know,
a sports illustrated bottel. She's dropped it gorgeous. So I
think when you are like that, it's a little easier
to have embarrassing things happen to you and people not
care as much. But when you're like thirteen years old
and you're at school and it happens and you need
new pants, I don't think your classmates are as forgiving so.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
And you're all like pimply engross and like it's it's
definitely not a cute little red dot. It's like all
on the seat and stuff. It's just terrible.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And I'm sure the two percent of male listeners we
have listening to this are extremely uncomfortable by the period chat,
but get over it because we have to deal with
it every month and it sucks. But now you do too,
and now you do too. It's part of like literally
part of our monthly life. So like, what do you
up from us? I don't feel like I should have
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to keep it a secret because it makes you uncomfortable,
deal with it. Okay. Walmart has recalled eight hundred and
fifty thousand stainless steel water bottles after two people became
permanently blind from the lids, ejecting, I thought you were.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Gonna say they have they have banned dildo sized tampons.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I haven't seen them, to be honest, and I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I haven't used them in years, but I remember that
was the only place that sold them, which was interesting.
Like what is it about women of Walmart that have
these large, heavy flows and big vaginas. I don't know,
but thank you Walmart for filling that part of my life. Okay, Yeah,
water bottles under pressure. I guess this happens if especially
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if you put like fizzy water in this thing, the
lid could pop off and shoot you. Has caused permanent
eye injuries to people. It's kind of amazing that it
had to happen to one person. Imagine being the second
person it happened to and been like, oh cool, you
knew that this happened and you still kept it on
here like awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, I understand it happening with carbonated beverages, but they're
saying there was a possibility it could happen with still
beverages like water, juice or milk. So I don't understand
how that would build enough pressure to shoot it because
it's like shooting off like a champagne bottle is I guess.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Any time that you have. I don't think it could
happen with water per se, but things that I mean,
especially think about milk. It's it kind of can go sour.
It creates gas and it could pop. I mean, that's
happened before that. You open and it's like you know
something like that. If listen, like I just left by
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accident one of my ice coffee cups in my car
in this summer, it's one hundred degrees outside for two days,
and I put it in the sink and gave open
it and was like, oh my god, what is this?
And I was like, oh, I forgot it was in
there for a couple of days and it's just like
so nasty. And you know, so it just happens sometimes
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and they don't tell you what circumstances it happens under,
but like you don't ever think that something like that's
gonna happen. So there's something not right. I would think
it was screwing on, but I guess it's just one
of those pushed on ones.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well. I wanted to say, like I wonder how statistically
how many people get black eyes or vision issues from
opening champagne because people really don't know how to open it.
I mean from working in the bar, I learned a
way to open it better, but it's still not super easy,
depending on what bottle you have.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, yeah, I get that, it really, it really is,
and it's fir. People times do.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Not understand when you untwist the cage, you immediately put
your hand on top of the cork until you're ready
to start taking it out, and you shouldn't push it
out like people's show on like movies and.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
TV, Yeah, because you're like aiming it at something.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Basically, you grab, you take the cage off, you put
your hand on top of the cork. You put your
other hand on the bottom of the bottle tilted at
a forty degree angle, and you hold the cork and
you twist the bottle. You don't pull the cork.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Not as dramatic. Let's talk about this, this guy with
the hyperbaric oxygen chamber, because didn't we have one of
these cases a few months ago with the kid.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, this is not the kid. But this guy was
a forty three year old physical therapist. He owned the practice,
and he went in the hyperbary chamber by himself at
eleven o'clock at night.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I would assume when you go in them.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
You have to have somebody else monitoring. No, like I
would assume with the big machine, got a one person system.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
No, it probably, it probably could be. It probably can
be a one person system. But for safety purposes, just
like we're talking about right now. Let's say that the
fire happened and there was somebody else there. There might
have been a chance that he would have been able
to get out quicker if someone was there to assist.
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I don't know. Like these things are known for for
trap It like people get trapped inside because of the pressure.
It's like not easy for them to get out of
it once there's an issue, and they are very flammable.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, and then I guess the flame was inside of
it and he just got burned alive in there. So
like I don't I just really don't understand what happened.
I guess the machine itself could fail. But whenever you
have a fire, you need to have like three basic things,
which is the fuel and the oxygen. And that's why
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when you're in a high oxygen situation, it's like you
want to make sure that there's not the third element,
which is a flame anywhere, because the oxygen's so high
that it makes it extremely more likely to catch fire.
I just don't know what caused the initial the initial spark,
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but I guess it could have been a problem you
have machinery or whatever it was. But and they don't
even know why he was in it.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Well, I mean people do this. People are like addicted
to these things and they swear by them.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Even when I plugged in my computer charger today to
just record this show, it sparks, you know. So maybe
it was just something small like that around an outlet
and then because of the conditions than this freak thing
just happens.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, and then and then the firefire fighters described it
as a fiery coffin like ikes, I know, he was
pronounced dead, so obviously he was like burned to a crisp.
That's terrible, so scary. So when we were talking about
it last time, I feel like it was people were
using the hyperbaric oxygen for none what you would say
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like FDA approved means. So usually you would use this
in cases of like decompressing sickness like we talked about
with the diving incidents, or you would use it in
cases where you have wounds that aren't healing well because
that increased oxygen air helps it get to the tissue
quicker than just breathing normal air, and then in theory,
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like your wounds should heal better. I mean, it's not
in theory like it actually works. But some people are
using it for things like the case of the little kid.
It was like he was being treated for like ADHD
and autism or something like that. It's used a lot
for off label uses, so they don't really know. I mean,
it would be normal to have something like this in
a physical therapist's office, but what was he using it for?
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They don't exactly know why.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
This episode is brought to you by the Gross Room.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
So speaking of hyperbaric oxygen chamber accidents, we have a
lot of cases in the Gross Room that have to
do with people needing those. We have this one called
Insta Muscles, which is crazy and shows a lot of
different things that could happen when you are having decompression
sickness and reasons why someone would need to go into
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hyperbaric oxygen chamber. Obviously the one we just did a
few weeks ago, the Buy for Dolphin accident, also another
case of decompression sickness if those people actually survived and
they would definitely need to go into something like this.
And we also have a case of frostbite called a
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Series of Unfortunate Events, because that literally is what happened.
You're just like, how does this happen to one person?
But also that person needed to use one of these
chambers as well, so you could learn a lot about
why people use these and how they're helpful in medicine
and injury. Unfortunately, on this program we're just talking about
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really terrible things that happen with it, but it also
can be super helpful as well. We are going to
be working on this week. I think there was a
really interesting case that happened years ago around here about
little kids that went missing for and the ending was shocking.
They all died, but it was a really crazy ending.
So we're going to be writing up about that in
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the Gross Room pretty soon, unless there's any kind of
breaking celebrity or high profile death this week. I mean, god,
I feel like last week was just a lot of
news between like Diddy and Coburger and stuff. So if
anything breaking happens with any of that stuff, of course
we'll cover that in the Gross Room as well.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
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Speaker 1 (15:12):
All right, So this subject is super super interesting to me.
We've also written about this a bunch of times in
the Gross Room about conjoin twins, because it's so it's
such a crazy life to have, and it's so intriguing
to just think about being stuck next to someone every
single moment and second of your life and what that's like.
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And people are just interested from anything that has to
do with like sitting on the toilet and taking a
shower to having sex with somebody in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I guess when in this case, it's just your entire life, right,
you just get so used to it. It's not like
twenty years and you had to now be permanently attached
to somebody. So this is really interesting. So this conjoined twin,
Carmen Andra, she just realy announced that she married her
boyfriend of five years back in October. But she made
(16:05):
a clear distinction that she is married and her twin
is not.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Yeah, and her twin has I mean, this has been
years that her twin has been saying that she's a
sexual and apparently she gets along with the now husband
of her sister. But I have so many questions, like
just so many questions about this, Like they have one
female genital track, so that means they share a vagina,
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and they share a uterus and everything else. And they're
not able to have a baby because they have endometriosis
so bad apparently and have been. We're also put on
puberty blockers during childhood, so they can't get pregnant. So
that isn't a question as it will be with another
set of conjoined twins we'll talk about, but just it
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just brings up so many interesting questions about like that
that's her vagina still I guess they're having a sexual
relationship the other sister. The other sister, Lupita, claims she's
asexual and she never had any desire to get married.
So I guess you would say, physically, you know, she's
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gonna feel the penetration. I'm sure she feels if there's
like an orgasm or something, but I guess mentally she's
she blocks it out because I don't like and they
don't have to explain how it works, like during the
act itself, but like, but I want to, I really
want to know that.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I know, from a scientist perspective, you want to know,
but they don't owe it to us to explain it
to that. But it is an interesting concept to think
about because I would think if you were conjoined twin
and you were gonna get married, that that person's effectively
marrying both of you. But in this case, it's just
not what's happening. So that's what makes us fascinating. Well,
I mean, they could say all they want, but like
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the girl is attached to her, like he's married to both.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Of them, I know.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
But what I'm getting at is like they have two
separate brains, so like the one of them is not
there emotionally with the other guy. So at first, before
I finished reading the article, I was like, well, what
happens if she wants to marry another person and what
happens if one of them wants to have a baby.
But I guess they've answered those questions. The other sister
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does not want to be married to a different person,
and then a way she's married to them.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
This happened with Chang and Nang, but they were males,
so it's a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, I just I think the concept is so fascinating
of it, and I think it's really cool of the
one sister to be like, I don't want these things,
but my sister does, so, like we share a body
and I acknowledge that, but I want her to have
the thing she wants.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
One of the weird parts of the article that was
so so weird, it just like things you don't think about,
is that the sister that's married to to the husband
now said that sometimes she falls asleep and the other
one stays awake and they like stay up all night
and hang out and talk like it's just the whole
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thing is just so fascinating to me. The anatomy and
the physiology of it, right, I mean, just.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Like it's just a very unique life that is hard
for us to understand because it's like they since you know,
they are always saying twins have a very special bond in general,
but of course they're attached permanently, so like they just
live a life that so few people live. I mean,
of course there's other examples of conjoined twins that have
lived and been married and lived normal lives, but it
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is just so fascinating to see how they go about it.
I am interested in those details, like what you were
just saying, how one of them falls asleep and the
other one hangs out with the husband and stuff, and
you just have to everybody has to be on board
with everything going on at the same time because even
though it's technically two different people, it's one physical body,
so there has to be a lot of consent. Good
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I really wish.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I mean, like I'm not trying to exploit them, because
like obviously everyone has interest in this. It's just like
I wish they would have a reality show and talk
about because I'm interested in him too, because the.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Other can join twins had a reality show.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
They did, but but they they talk about stuff, and
especially they were they were pretty much children and then
they were teenagers. But I don't know if it was
a show or just like a special on their life,
but they still they still don't. If you start asking
them questions about any of the sex stuff they get,
they automatically like don't want to talk about it. And
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I just wish that there was someone that we could
really just hear from. Like I'm not trying to like
make fun of them or anything. I just like generally,
I'm just like very curious, and I'm like you were saying,
you grow up like that and you and you're used
to it, so that's fine, but like the guys not
so like what was it they met on like on
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Tinder or something or one of the what was it called?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
They lit on hinge. And what I found really sad
was that the one twin was saying that she never
hid their situation at all. She was always very open
about being a conjoint twin, which you have to beat
if you're gonna date somebody and be in an honest relationship,
even if you're going to meet them online, they have
to know exactly what's going on. So because you don't
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want to be in a weird situation either, And what
she was saying was that oftentimes she'd get messaged by
guys that had fetishes, and it's like these people, you
know already have this hardship in their life and they
just want to live a normal life.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Wait. I want to talk about Abigail and Brittany Hensel too,
because this is they are conjoined twins as well, and
one of them has recently got married within the past
couple of years, and the other says he has not
said anything about her being a sexual or not wanting
to get married, so I guess there is a possibility
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that that she would want to get married as well.
And what's different with their case is that, at least
when they're when they first started getting interviewed, when they
were children, her, their parents said that they shared a
reproductive system, and both of the girls have said that
they want to be a mom one day. Well, I
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guess they have a similar anatomy that they're that you know,
they have one body that they're sharing in one reproductive system. Listen.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
I don't think it's like a day of like, oh wow,
we're in this predicament. I think it's a lifelong understanding
of you know what you're comfortable with. You guys talk
to each other, and you know what your future is
going to look like if that door ever comes, if
the door ever opens to you, Like if one of
them gets married and there's the possible possibility for one
of them to for them to get pregnant as one body.
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I'm sure they've already planned that out. It's not like
a we're thinking about having a baby. How do you
feel about it? I'm sure it's been thoroughly discussed.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Whose name goes on the birth certificate?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I don't know, because it's such a unique situation.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
It's really nuts, right, Like, I just this is all
the stuff I'm interested in.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
The problem is that Abby and Brittany had their show,
but it was done in a reality show type of way,
and I don't think what we need is a reality show.
I think we need an extremely tasteful documentary that follows
them and is like not making fun of them and
not trying to exploit them. I'm not saying that's necessarily
what the Abby and Brittany show is doing, but I
don't think it was like talking about the scientific component,
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the social component behind it, it's just like we're just
observing them like they're in a tank.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Did a little bit though, they because they went through
when they got they did when they were little kids
and how they would ride a bike and then they
taught that like what happened when they were driving, and
then even.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
As children, it's very different because as adults you're making
decisions like being in long term relationships, having babies, being
in a sexual relationship with somebody, those are very different.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
They don't I mean, they've said multiple times that they
just don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Well because I'm sure after they were on TV so
many people made fun of them, and it's fucked up.
I mean, it's not their fault. They're in this like
extremely unique situation.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, I got that.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Okay, let's talk about the dark history of Candyland. The
game has been out for seventy five years, and I
just learned today that it was invented to help children
who were suffering from polio.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Yeah. So it's a really interesting story about a school
teacher who was on the Polio Award with children that
had a very rare side effect of having the polio
infection that was called poliomylitis, and that is when there
the virus targets nerve cells in the spinal cord that
is in control of the muscles of the body. So
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not only would kids have their leg muscles would get
weakened and they would have a hard time walking, it
also could happen in the muscles of the neck and
the head and the diaphragm, which is why kids were
put into iron lungs at the time. It's really as
a person that didn't really live through polio, you know,
we hear about how terrible it was, and obviously it
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was super terrible for the children that were affected, but
you don't really realize that most of the people that
got the polio virus didn't really get sick at all,
and if they did, it was just like a cold.
It was only one percent of kids and mostly children,
that would get this real horrible side effect that affected
their nerves, which was obviously what the motivation was in
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finding a vaccination for that. But yeah, so this teacher
made this game. So if you look at the very
first board of it, it was like you have to
go through this candy forest and all these amazing things
to get home, and she was trying to just teach
them that, like they just had to stay there a
little bit longer and just try to get through this
and then they would eventually get home.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Yeah, and I thought it was cool because they were
showing the very first like design of the game and
it featured a boy wearing a leg breeze.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, it's really interesting and I never I had never
heard of that. I don't know why they decided on
doing an article on this right now. Was it like
an anniversary or something. The board game has obviously changed
over years, but it's been It has a really interesting
beginning and it's pretty cool story.
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