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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. We hope you had
a nice Thanksgiving, hopefully your shopping today while listening to
this show, and we have some great stories for you,
so we hope you enjoy. On today's episode, we're going
to talk about a real housewife who lost custody of
one of her or all of our kids, i should say,
from giving one of them an unprescribed medication. A grizzly
(00:44):
bear that attacks students and teachers on a field trip.
A guynecologist who secretly filmed his patients for years, a
man who was caught on video doing something truly disturbing
and disgusting, and another scandal rocking the organ donation world.
All that and more on Titty's episode. Let's get into this.
You're the Real Housewives person. Who is this lady?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
All right? So, Megan King, she is a former Real
housewife of Orange County. She was married to baseball player
Jim Edmonds. I don't think you've ever heard of what
teams you on? Irrelevant? Like he was on the Angels,
the Cardinal, He was on a bunch of different teams.
I don't think he was on anyone for a significant
amount of time. But she is temporary lost custody of
(01:30):
her three children after reportedly giving one of her sons
riddalin multiple times even though he was not prescribed it.
Then she allegedly asked a school nurse to give it
to him as well, which then prompted a call to
Child Protective Services and resulted in her losing custody of
them temporarily.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Well, I think that this is probably pretty valid because
riddlin is I mean, sometimes like people give their kids
medication that they're not prescribed. I don't think that that's
the big deal. I think because hdtl's kind of a
more hardcore drug. It's a stimulant, so it could lead
to like what is it for for ADHD Okay, so
(02:10):
it's it's a stimulant, though it's a controlled substance. If
this isn't like given your kid, I don't even know,
like antibiotic kaream or something like that, Like this is
kind of a bigger deal because it could lead to
a rhythmia, heart attack, death, it could cause addiction, the
drugs known to cause addiction. And also I was because
(02:33):
I didn't see in this particular article, but I know
that she has twins, so I was wondering where did
this medication come from. Was it prescribed to her or
was it prescribed to one of the other kids, Because
the dosage would really be important too, Like you're not
going to give the same dosage to a seven or
(02:53):
eight year old that you would give to a forty
year old woman, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So, so on a couple other Bravo or pop culture
podcast I've listened to since this news broke, there has
been speculation that this was an an accidental mix up.
So she has twin boys and a daughter, and the
mix up is believed. I mean, this is all hearsay,
because I don't even think any news outlets have reported
(03:19):
this that one of the twins was potentially prescribed the
drug and that it was accidentally given to the other
one by accident, which obviously is a huge asked the
school nurse to give the other kid the drug. Yeah,
but they're suggesting it was a mix up. I don't
know who that information came out, or if people are
(03:41):
just trying to defend her in any way possible.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know it's still I mean,
the kid's in your custody and you can't be mixing
stuff like that up. I understand that that's a possibility,
but it feels like it was several times in addition
to the nurse incident. And I mean, I just know
with our school nurse, like if I called and said
(04:05):
by accident, like hey, could you give Lucia this Inhaller
when really Lillian was supposed to have it, she wouldn't
call CPS on me, Like there's more? Do you understand,
Like there's there's more to the story.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, of course, because obviously there could be an accidental
like you say, you accidentally said they're on kid, Like
you're just saying you could say that, right, But I
think there's a lot going on behind the scenes. I mean,
but she's not on the show anymore. But by watching
her on the show, she seemed like she was a
really awesome mom. So I don't want to give I
don't want to speak on whether her motherhood is good
(04:41):
or not right, but there.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Is on a because on Real House, why she's trade
as I mean, come on, because you don't you don't.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Know because these people are on reality shows and they
show fake. They're the fakest components of their lives to
make their lives seem much better, right, So you just
don't know because she's on TV, and people also put
their highlight reel on social media to make it look
like their life is awesome. So you just really don't
know what's going on behind the scenes. But what we
know from earlier this year is that so she was
(05:13):
Jim Edmund's fourth wife and then they got divorced and
he has now married a fifth person. So earlier this year,
Megan got the cops called on her because she got
in an altercation with the new wife while dropping a
dress off for her daughter at their house. But she
wasn't arrested, but the cops were called and she in
the reporting was referred to as a suspect. And then
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there's also you know, in twenty twenty one where she
married Joe Biden's nephew for two months, And I don't
think that necessarily seems that stable when you marry somebody
for two months and you have this grand giant wedding.
So I don't really know what's going on behind the scenes,
but I agree with you that I don't think it
was a one off accidental situation. They clearly saw something
that made her lose temporary custody, and she has a
(05:56):
hearing coming up. I guess if it's going to reinstate
the custody agreement she originally with her husband or what.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, And I mean I could see that for pr purposes,
they're trying to make this seem like it was an accident.
I just listen, like, people that beat the shit out
their kids don't get their kids taken away. So I
just don't think that this was just some big mistake,
Like there's just I'm sorry, there's just more, especially a
higher profile person like this. I just feel like there's
way more to the story than we're even hearing. Yeah,
(06:26):
especially from a mother that, by all accounts is like
the stable figure in their home. There's just it's not happening.
Like it's total bullshit. I call bullshit.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, all right. In Canada, this group was on a
school trip and having lunch along a trail by a
river when a grizzly bear emerged and started attacking them.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
This particular place in the woods. They you know, because
of course they want to go and find this bear
that attack these people, because the bear was being a bear.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I just can't get down with that, Like the bear
is in a tome just being a bear, So why
does it deserve to die?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
They call it this particular area of the woods, they
call a gateway to the Great Bear Rainforest, and they've
been saying there's an increasing number of grizzly bears. So
my question is, why are people walking through there if
that's if that's a potential, I understand that in theory,
(07:31):
a bear shouldn't be I guess I don't know, like
cause you know, they say when you're in the water,
like a shark wouldn't eat you because you're not their prey,
but they do sometimes.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, I think that's true. I think that's more so
true with black Like don't bears.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Just sit there with like a big jar of honey
and stick their hand in it and lick it?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Like I think in our area we are more accustomed
to black bears, which are more non violent and less
they are threatened, right, But grizzly bears and brown bears
are aggressive, and that is a known fact.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Didn't ever didn't someone ever say that? See that a
Leonardo DiCaprio movie where he was like attacked by a
grizzly bear. It's it's like one of the most gruesome
scenes in cinematatic whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Cinema, cinematatic cinematatic history, cinematic history.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So so yeah, like I don't know, I just don't
want to ever be near one, it just seems. And
so now they're gonna they're trying to see if they
could trap a bunch of bears and do DNA testing
on them to figure out which one of these jerks
did this.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Like my eyes hurt from the eye roll I just
did about that, Like, where are we even talking about? Listen,
I feel terrible for the people that were attacked. Obviously
you're in the bear's home and it's acting like a bear,
and now you want to kill it for just being itself.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, it doesn't make any.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Sense at all.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
It's just really funny how they talk about it as
an like an evil person that needs to be put
down or something. Yes, and I mean listen, like it
sounds horrible what happened to these people, Like they had
two cans of bear spray I guess which I feel
like maybe they should have had more. It seemed like
(09:16):
it did absolutely nothing to keep them away. Teachers, like
grabbing them on their back, hitting them, getting punching them
and stuff like that, like and and their claws. Have
you ever seen their claws? I can't even imagine, just
and they're probably also weigh aton and just have a
lot of force, just swatting and stuff like a lot
(09:39):
of blunt trauma, possibly trampling broken bones and just like
those claws.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I can't even imagine why because it was just living
its life.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Because that will make the humans feel better. It's unbelievable
that that evil being is off the planet.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I don't even like animalst like that, and I hate
hearing stuff like this.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I know, I'm I'm the same way. I just I
get more annoyed because it's just like a stupid, a
stupid human thing people do.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Seriously.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
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Oh this guy, So.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
A guynecologist is under investigation after it was discovered he
filmed and photographed patients storing their exams.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So this guy was doing pelvic exam's vaginal exams and
putting his cell phone in his pocket on his shirt
and had the phone, you know, the camera of the
phone facing towards these women and were hitting record before
doing their exams. And think about that, like, it's just
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like another fear, right that someone's got a pocket in
their phone like that. That's recording you and you don't
even realize it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I mean, I was really thinking about this because I've
been to the most doctor's appointments I've ever been to
in one year this year, right going through fertility treatment,
which is in the same realm pelvic examster, getting constant
ultrasounds everything. I don't recall a single day where I've
seen any employee at any of these offices had their
(12:18):
cell phone on their person. And maybe if they did,
I just couldn't see it. But I don't ever recall
at these doctor's appointments seeing a cell phone.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Well, I'm sure that most offices are are very hardcore
about that because you don't, I mean, you don't want
to go. I can't say that because I've been to
some doctor's offices and go to the front desk and
the person's on their phone and you're not.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Talking about the person at the desk, I'm talking about like, yeah,
I'm treating you in the back.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah. I mean, it's just that they shouldn't have it
on them. But I don't know, like if a doctor,
if a doctor had their phone in their pocket, I
really wouldn't think. I mean, it is kind of weird
to put a phone in your front pocket like a
man's shirt, you know, just because they're heavier now, they're
(13:06):
not very small, so it would you know what I mean,
Like most people put it in their side or back pocket.
But I just wouldn't even think the little camera sticking
out at the top of their shirt was recording me.
And it just it just makes you think, Like it
makes me think about that in general, just with gynecologists,
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like there has to be some people that are like
getting offul on that, you know what I mean, Like
it can't it's just like a weird thing to think.
I mean, I don't know to say that. It's just
like you hear you hear it sometimes and and it
just makes you think, like how often is that really
(13:48):
happening versus just like people are like no, that's like
a totally different thing. Like I understand it to a point.
I only see patients that are dead obviously, but like
they're there's no attraction looking at a patient's genitals like that.
It's just like it's like a cop like it's just weird, yeah,
but like.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You should it off they're dead. How many stories have
we covered about mort assistance or janitors going in and
thinking that's the oddest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, but I mean in assaulting, that's like a whole
other level though with the dead people, like a live
person is like, you know, I I assume that doctors
are able to because you have you could have either
female doctors that are attracted to women or male doctors
that are attracted to women, whatever, but like they're also
(14:36):
interacting and having conversation, how's this, how's that? Whatever? Like,
but you assume that they all draw a line that
that like this is just this is just business and
it's clinical and like I'm not even thinking of you
that way, but there's there's always going to be a
PERV everywhere, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
In this case, it's like it's not not only was
he filming and photographing them on his phone, but they
said he was touching the their genitals and their breast inappropriately,
while claiming he was just it was part of the exam.
But like, I mean, you know if it's inappropriate versus not. Yeah,
maybe if it's your first one ever, you don't, But
if you're older and you've had exams from other physicians before,
(15:17):
you're gonna know if this is normal or not because
you know it's appropriate.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
There's nothing like sexy time about it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
No, there's there's nothing sexual, and there's nothing even to
be confused with being sexual. Yeah, exact goes because think
about I don't know, I just think about them sticking
the medieval contraption in you, and like that's not sexual,
and like they shouldn't be touching your breast in any
area that's sexually stimulating either.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And then on top of it, he was performing the
exams without any supporting staff in the room, which is
now a requirement, which is a huge reflect that's been
a requirement. Yeah, but how was he even getting around?
I don't because this was fairly recent. This was like
in twenty twenty one, right, he just got suspended.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
So I mean so I guess women were complaining that
they were How did they find out about the recording
part of it.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I don't know exactly what led to his recent suspension
and this investigation, but there's a lawsuit representing at least
fifty victims. By the way, fifteen hundred people are going
to be notified that they were potential victims. Think about that,
fifteen hundred people. This guy has been practicing since two
thousand and seven, and had notably worked at an army
(16:30):
hospital in Hawaii from twenty nineteen to twenty three, and
then most recently has been working at a Texas Army hospital.
So they're saying with this lawsuit that there had been
many reports that he had been engaging in this behavior
going back years, and that the army covered it up basically,
But where did they get that information?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, I don't know, and I'm sure they have. I mean,
like they probably have lots of different women's body parts
on this film here, So imagine getting a call like that.
I mean, they're gonna have to notify people. Just getting
a call that, like your doctor did something like that,
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and you might potentially be on the other end of
some video he was making so he could go home
and jerk off to it. It's so weird.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I mean, you should be notified obviously, right, But when
I think about this and what we've talked about in
the past, like dead people getting assaulted by people, I
just think part of me is just like I'd rather
just not know, because how could you ever geeh for it?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
No, I know that I feel like that too. Like
what I mean, there's there's a potential, Like we always
talk about this case, remember mo Mom went to that
one dentist that remember we've talked about it on this show,
like that like put the tools on her chair. He
put the tools on her chest, which is weird. Actually
it wasn't. It's it's inappropriate, that's not. And then it
(17:59):
goes and and it wasn't on a tray. So every
time he picked up one of the tools, he was like,
let me grab this, like extra grabbing it to the
point she was just like like, this is weird. And
and then like, I guess they could contact those people
and just say that, and maybe then people will get
triggered and be like you know what, Like I did
(18:20):
think that was your books, because so many people just
are like might blow it off or not say anything.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I think a lot of patients too that could be
victimized or just like so embarrassed or ashamed by it
too that they might acknowledge it's wrong but just want
to forget it and not do anything about it. Because
think about it. If you're going ahead and reporting it
and then lawyers are getting involved and then there's a
court case, you're living this for the next couple of years.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So I think a lot of people, and this can
be said for many victims of many different types of crimes,
are just like I can't handle it, and they don't want.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
To be part of it at all. Yeah, no, I
get that.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
It's just terrible. I mean, you just want to hope
that you could trust a medical professional, especially in such
a vulnerable situation like this. I mean, this is reminding
me of those people at the urgent care that we're posting,
like the women's stains on the oh yeah, the paper
so stupid, like you know, going to this place that
you should be trustworthy of and they're just violating you.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
In the world. This is what's scary too, because Gabe
and I were talking about that this morning, about the
the meta AI glasses, Like right now, if someone has them,
a lot of people could tell that a person has them,
but like someone like, uh, the old lady lives across
the street that we're friends with, Like she don't know
(19:42):
what that shit is, right, Like like younger people know
what it is obviously, but don't you think within the
next couple of years, it's going to be like that
shit is like nobody could tell what it is. Of course,
right now. Yeah, exactly, They're just going to keep redesigning
them until you can't. And that's what so scary because
because you don't. I mean, I'm sure they might be
(20:05):
helpful in some situations if you're trying to go undercover
to see if the Campbell soup company is making fake
meat with the three D printer or something. But like
for the most part, how like it's going to be
perverts that are doing it right well exactly, and it's
or the people that are trying to hide things that
they maybe shouldn't be filming or something. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So speaking of perverts, this guy was caught on camera
sniffing a couch at a dance studio after an underage
girl got up from the seat.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That would that this is like the weirdest video ever.
This guy. This guy just there's a little girl sitting
on the seat and he just like creeps in and
like smells the couch. It's so god and it makes
me want to beat that dude up for real.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And who is this guy? Is he the parent of
another girl that's dancing at the studio or was he
just like outside of the dance studio looking through the window.
And then just walked in and did it, because it
kind of seems like that he needs to get his
ass for real. The police said they know who he is,
and they're determining if they're going to press charges or not.
I mean, what charges? What would you press?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, but what are you determining? I don't like. I
guess they don't have I.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Don't not fall into some weird legal loophole, like what
is the charge? Because even with the I don't know,
it's like he was getting in people's spaces and harassing them.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I don't know, Like I feel like I feel like
that should be grounds to investigate a person to see
if they're involved with paedophilia, Like why else would you
be sniffing the couch of where a little child was sitting.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
But they're not going to do anything anyway, because think
about people that are openly stalking victims and they're like, well,
we can't do anything unless they threaten to harm you. Yeah,
I know, and then all of a sudden, somebody's murdered.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I don't know, it's just it. It's really like my
kid goes to dance school, Like I don't even I
don't want to think about that that would if that
happened and that was my child, like I would find
that guy and like have a conversation with him.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
As Gabe would say, all right, last story. An organ
donor group is being investigated after they allegedly told a
hospital to harvest from a patient who is showing signs
of life. This is really not helping the rumors that
they don't keep you alive.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, I was thinking about this. Of course, this happened
at Virtue near Us and Camden. The our lady Lords,
which the hospital employees, seem like they did the right thing.
They were I guess they got the okay to harvest
this person and when so, when a person dies and
donates their organs, they're considered to be brain dead, but
(22:45):
they still are technically being kept alive on certain machines
to keep the organs alive, to keep the oxygenated blood
moving through the organ so when they take it out
it's as fresh as possible. But technically the person's dead.
They're declared legally brain dead and they're dead. So I
(23:07):
guess they called this organ donation company and said, okay,
we're going to harvest these organs, and then when they
went in to start doing it. They were saying that
the patient showed signs of life. So I guess what
part I'm confused about is that those surgeons then called
the donation center and said, listen, this person is showing
(23:29):
signs of life, like, what do we do. I don't
even understand.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I don't think they were asking what do we do.
I think they were just saying, they're showing signs of life,
so we're going to be stopping the procedures, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
And then the lady was like, that's why. I was like,
why would you even call them? They needed to keep operating. Yeah. So,
and if that's the case, and there's the there's a
lawsuit going through right now and everything apparently there's been
documentation to cover up the incident, And if that's the
(24:01):
case and that really happened, like it's just they don't
need any negative news right now because people, I'm like
the biggest pro organ donation person and this kind of
shit makes me nervous. We had a story, do you
remember the story that we had a couple years ago
(24:22):
about a man who woke up during organ harvesting who's
now alive still you know, survived that. So that was
a huge thing, and as a person that wants to
donate their family member's organs when they die, you want
to make sure that that that practice is legit and
(24:43):
you're not doing anything that you're not supposed to be doing.
I really don't understand why she would tell them to
keep doing it, because she doesn't have any medical training
like that. That's why I'm like, I mean, I guess
if they were just called to say, like, hey, we're
just letting you know you're not getting these organs because
this person is still alive, then I don't even know
(25:06):
why she would bother saying back, no, keep them alive,
because like she doesn't have any control over that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Well, there is a lot of issues going on here,
so they're saying. The House Committee reached out to this
company for more info in July and then said they
have since uncovered more evidence of potentially illegal operations. And
then they were also accused of failing to obtain proper
consent from donors' families, skipping patients on transplant lists, and
obscuring a mass discard of one hundred pancreas is obtained
(25:32):
for research.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, no, I'm sorry, and skipping people on the list
and stuff like why well it's not and who who's
deciding like which person should get it? I mean, I
know that certain patients take priority over other patients, but
that would and which, which is a totally legal thing,
but obviously what they're doing is not legal. So I mean,
(25:57):
it's just it's just concerning because we around here and
there's if that's the organ the major organ donation uh
establishment in this area, then that makes me nervous as
a resident that might have a family member that needs
to use that. Well.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, so they have until December third to produce these
documents that have been requested, but it's not seeming like
it's going well. If they're already uncovering a bunch of
other problems in this company, it's.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, I don't know. I still I still want to
believe that. I know a lot of people that work
in the field that just like, they feel very passionate
about it and they're legit, and you would just hate
for it to go downhill because a couple of like
sketchy people, you know, well, at least the hospital stepped
in and seemed to do that. Yeah they were yeah,
(26:52):
they were just like yeah, no, I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
But obviously they had to report them because major red flag,
right you get. Yeah, and even so, I'm like, what
was that, like, like they stopped this procedure and then
they're all in the lounge later being like that was weird, right, Yeah,
I'm sure, I'm sure it was interesting. All right, guys,
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Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. We hope you had
a nice Thanksgiving, hopefully your shopping today while listening to
this show, and we have some great stories for you,
so we hope you enjoy. On today's episode, we're going
to talk about a real housewife who lost custody of
one of her or all of our kids, i should say,
from giving one of them an unprescribed medication. A grizzly
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bear that attacks students and teachers on a field trip.
A guynecologist who secretly filmed his patients for years, a
man who was caught on video doing something truly disturbing
and disgusting, and another scandal rocking the organ donation world.
All that and more on Titty's episode. Let's get into this.
You're the Real Housewives person. Who is this lady?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
All right? So, Megan King, she is a former Real
housewife of Orange County. She was married to baseball player
Jim Edmonds. I don't think you've ever heard of what
teams you on? Irrelevant? Like he was on the Angels,
the Cardinal, He was on a bunch of different teams.
I don't think he was on anyone for a significant
amount of time. But she is temporary lost custody of
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her three children after reportedly giving one of her sons
riddalin multiple times even though he was not prescribed it.
Then she allegedly asked a school nurse to give it
to him as well, which then prompted a call to
Child Protective Services and resulted in her losing custody of
them temporarily.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Well, I think that this is probably pretty valid because
riddlin is I mean, sometimes like people give their kids
medication that they're not prescribed. I don't think that that's
the big deal. I think because hdtl's kind of a
more hardcore drug. It's a stimulant, so it could lead
to like what is it for for ADHD Okay, so
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it's it's a stimulant, though it's a controlled substance. If
this isn't like given your kid, I don't even know,
like antibiotic kaream or something like that, Like this is
kind of a bigger deal because it could lead to
a rhythmia, heart attack, death, it could cause addiction, the
drugs known to cause addiction. And also I was because
(02:33):
I didn't see in this particular article, but I know
that she has twins, so I was wondering where did
this medication come from. Was it prescribed to her or
was it prescribed to one of the other kids, Because
the dosage would really be important too, Like you're not
going to give the same dosage to a seven or
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eight year old that you would give to a forty
year old woman, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So, so on a couple other Bravo or pop culture
podcast I've listened to since this news broke, there has
been speculation that this was an an accidental mix up.
So she has twin boys and a daughter, and the
mix up is believed. I mean, this is all hearsay,
because I don't even think any news outlets have reported
(03:19):
this that one of the twins was potentially prescribed the
drug and that it was accidentally given to the other
one by accident, which obviously is a huge asked the
school nurse to give the other kid the drug. Yeah,
but they're suggesting it was a mix up. I don't
know who that information came out, or if people are
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just trying to defend her in any way possible.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know it's still I mean,
the kid's in your custody and you can't be mixing
stuff like that up. I understand that that's a possibility,
but it feels like it was several times in addition
to the nurse incident. And I mean, I just know
with our school nurse, like if I called and said
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by accident, like hey, could you give Lucia this Inhaller
when really Lillian was supposed to have it, she wouldn't
call CPS on me, Like there's more? Do you understand,
Like there's there's more to the story.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, of course, because obviously there could be an accidental
like you say, you accidentally said they're on kid, Like
you're just saying you could say that, right, But I
think there's a lot going on behind the scenes. I mean,
but she's not on the show anymore. But by watching
her on the show, she seemed like she was a
really awesome mom. So I don't want to give I
don't want to speak on whether her motherhood is good
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or not right, but there.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Is on a because on Real House, why she's trade
as I mean, come on, because you don't you don't.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Know because these people are on reality shows and they
show fake. They're the fakest components of their lives to
make their lives seem much better, right, So you just
don't know because she's on TV, and people also put
their highlight reel on social media to make it look
like their life is awesome. So you just really don't
know what's going on behind the scenes. But what we
know from earlier this year is that so she was
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Jim Edmund's fourth wife and then they got divorced and
he has now married a fifth person. So earlier this year,
Megan got the cops called on her because she got
in an altercation with the new wife while dropping a
dress off for her daughter at their house. But she
wasn't arrested, but the cops were called and she in
the reporting was referred to as a suspect. And then
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there's also you know, in twenty twenty one where she
married Joe Biden's nephew for two months, And I don't
think that necessarily seems that stable when you marry somebody
for two months and you have this grand giant wedding.
So I don't really know what's going on behind the scenes,
but I agree with you that I don't think it
was a one off accidental situation. They clearly saw something
that made her lose temporary custody, and she has a
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hearing coming up. I guess if it's going to reinstate
the custody agreement she originally with her husband or what.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, And I mean I could see that for pr purposes,
they're trying to make this seem like it was an accident.
I just listen, like, people that beat the shit out
their kids don't get their kids taken away. So I
just don't think that this was just some big mistake,
Like there's just I'm sorry, there's just more, especially a
higher profile person like this. I just feel like there's
way more to the story than we're even hearing. Yeah,
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especially from a mother that, by all accounts is like
the stable figure in their home. There's just it's not happening.
Like it's total bullshit. I call bullshit.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, all right. In Canada, this group was on a
school trip and having lunch along a trail by a
river when a grizzly bear emerged and started attacking them.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
This particular place in the woods. They you know, because
of course they want to go and find this bear
that attack these people, because the bear was being a bear.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I just can't get down with that, Like the bear
is in a tome just being a bear, So why
does it deserve to die?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
They call it this particular area of the woods, they
call a gateway to the Great Bear Rainforest, and they've
been saying there's an increasing number of grizzly bears. So
my question is, why are people walking through there if
that's if that's a potential, I understand that in theory,
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a bear shouldn't be I guess I don't know, like
cause you know, they say when you're in the water,
like a shark wouldn't eat you because you're not their prey,
but they do sometimes.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, I think that's true. I think that's more so
true with black Like don't bears.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Just sit there with like a big jar of honey
and stick their hand in it and lick it?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Like I think in our area we are more accustomed
to black bears, which are more non violent and less
they are threatened, right, But grizzly bears and brown bears
are aggressive, and that is a known fact.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Didn't ever didn't someone ever say that? See that a
Leonardo DiCaprio movie where he was like attacked by a
grizzly bear. It's it's like one of the most gruesome
scenes in cinematatic whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Cinema, cinematatic cinematatic history, cinematic history.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So so yeah, like I don't know, I just don't
want to ever be near one, it just seems. And
so now they're gonna they're trying to see if they
could trap a bunch of bears and do DNA testing
on them to figure out which one of these jerks
did this.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Like my eyes hurt from the eye roll I just
did about that, Like, where are we even talking about? Listen,
I feel terrible for the people that were attacked. Obviously
you're in the bear's home and it's acting like a bear,
and now you want to kill it for just being itself.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, it doesn't make any.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Sense at all.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
It's just really funny how they talk about it as
an like an evil person that needs to be put
down or something. Yes, and I mean listen, like it
sounds horrible what happened to these people, Like they had
two cans of bear spray I guess which I feel
like maybe they should have had more. It seemed like
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it did absolutely nothing to keep them away. Teachers, like
grabbing them on their back, hitting them, getting punching them
and stuff like that, like and and their claws. Have
you ever seen their claws? I can't even imagine, just
and they're probably also weigh aton and just have a
lot of force, just swatting and stuff like a lot
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of blunt trauma, possibly trampling broken bones and just like
those claws.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I can't even imagine why because it was just living
its life.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Because that will make the humans feel better. It's unbelievable
that that evil being is off the planet.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
I don't even like animalst like that, and I hate
hearing stuff like this.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I know, I'm I'm the same way. I just I
get more annoyed because it's just like a stupid, a
stupid human thing people do.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Seriously.
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A guynecologist is under investigation after it was discovered he
filmed and photographed patients storing their exams.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
So this guy was doing pelvic exam's vaginal exams and
putting his cell phone in his pocket on his shirt
and had the phone, you know, the camera of the
phone facing towards these women and were hitting record before
doing their exams. And think about that, like, it's just
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like another fear, right that someone's got a pocket in
their phone like that. That's recording you and you don't
even realize it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I mean, I was really thinking about this because I've
been to the most doctor's appointments I've ever been to
in one year this year, right going through fertility treatment,
which is in the same realm pelvic examster, getting constant
ultrasounds everything. I don't recall a single day where I've
seen any employee at any of these offices had their
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cell phone on their person. And maybe if they did,
I just couldn't see it. But I don't ever recall
at these doctor's appointments seeing a cell phone.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Well, I'm sure that most offices are are very hardcore
about that because you don't, I mean, you don't want
to go. I can't say that because I've been to
some doctor's offices and go to the front desk and
the person's on their phone and you're not.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Talking about the person at the desk, I'm talking about like, yeah,
I'm treating you in the back.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Yeah. I mean, it's just that they shouldn't have it
on them. But I don't know, like if a doctor,
if a doctor had their phone in their pocket, I
really wouldn't think. I mean, it is kind of weird
to put a phone in your front pocket like a
man's shirt, you know, just because they're heavier now, they're
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not very small, so it would you know what I mean,
Like most people put it in their side or back pocket.
But I just wouldn't even think the little camera sticking
out at the top of their shirt was recording me.
And it just it just makes you think, Like it
makes me think about that in general, just with gynecologists,
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like there has to be some people that are like
getting offul on that, you know what I mean, Like
it can't it's just like a weird thing to think.
I mean, I don't know to say that. It's just
like you hear you hear it sometimes and and it
just makes you think, like how often is that really
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happening versus just like people are like no, that's like
a totally different thing. Like I understand it to a point.
I only see patients that are dead obviously, but like
they're there's no attraction looking at a patient's genitals like that.
It's just like it's like a cop like it's just weird, yeah,
but like.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
You should it off they're dead. How many stories have
we covered about mort assistance or janitors going in and
thinking that's the oddest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah, but I mean in assaulting, that's like a whole
other level though with the dead people, like a live
person is like, you know, I I assume that doctors
are able to because you have you could have either
female doctors that are attracted to women or male doctors
that are attracted to women, whatever, but like they're also
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interacting and having conversation, how's this, how's that? Whatever? Like,
but you assume that they all draw a line that
that like this is just this is just business and
it's clinical and like I'm not even thinking of you
that way, but there's there's always going to be a
PERV everywhere, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
In this case, it's like it's not not only was
he filming and photographing them on his phone, but they
said he was touching the their genitals and their breast inappropriately,
while claiming he was just it was part of the exam.
But like, I mean, you know if it's inappropriate versus not. Yeah,
maybe if it's your first one ever, you don't, But
if you're older and you've had exams from other physicians before,
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you're gonna know if this is normal or not because
you know it's appropriate.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
There's nothing like sexy time about it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
No, there's there's nothing sexual, and there's nothing even to
be confused with being sexual. Yeah, exact goes because think
about I don't know, I just think about them sticking
the medieval contraption in you, and like that's not sexual,
and like they shouldn't be touching your breast in any
area that's sexually stimulating either.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So there's that.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And then on top of it, he was performing the
exams without any supporting staff in the room, which is
now a requirement, which is a huge reflect that's been
a requirement. Yeah, but how was he even getting around?
I don't because this was fairly recent. This was like
in twenty twenty one, right, he just got suspended.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
So I mean so I guess women were complaining that
they were How did they find out about the recording
part of it.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
I don't know exactly what led to his recent suspension
and this investigation, but there's a lawsuit representing at least
fifty victims. By the way, fifteen hundred people are going
to be notified that they were potential victims. Think about that,
fifteen hundred people. This guy has been practicing since two
thousand and seven, and had notably worked at an army
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hospital in Hawaii from twenty nineteen to twenty three, and
then most recently has been working at a Texas Army hospital.
So they're saying with this lawsuit that there had been
many reports that he had been engaging in this behavior
going back years, and that the army covered it up basically,
But where did they get that information?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, I don't know, and I'm sure they have. I mean,
like they probably have lots of different women's body parts
on this film here, So imagine getting a call like that.
I mean, they're gonna have to notify people. Just getting
a call that, like your doctor did something like that,
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and you might potentially be on the other end of
some video he was making so he could go home
and jerk off to it. It's so weird.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I mean, you should be notified obviously, right, But when
I think about this and what we've talked about in
the past, like dead people getting assaulted by people, I
just think part of me is just like I'd rather
just not know, because how could you ever geeh for it?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
No, I know that I feel like that too. Like
what I mean, there's there's a potential, Like we always
talk about this case, remember mo Mom went to that
one dentist that remember we've talked about it on this show,
like that like put the tools on her chair. He
put the tools on her chest, which is weird. Actually
it wasn't. It's it's inappropriate, that's not. And then it
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goes and and it wasn't on a tray. So every
time he picked up one of the tools, he was like,
let me grab this, like extra grabbing it to the
point she was just like like, this is weird. And
and then like, I guess they could contact those people
and just say that, and maybe then people will get
triggered and be like you know what, Like I did
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think that was your books, because so many people just
are like might blow it off or not say anything.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I think a lot of patients too that could be
victimized or just like so embarrassed or ashamed by it
too that they might acknowledge it's wrong but just want
to forget it and not do anything about it. Because
think about it. If you're going ahead and reporting it
and then lawyers are getting involved and then there's a
court case, you're living this for the next couple of years.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
So I think a lot of people, and this can
be said for many victims of many different types of crimes,
are just like I can't handle it, and they don't want.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
To be part of it at all. Yeah, no, I
get that.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
It's just terrible. I mean, you just want to hope
that you could trust a medical professional, especially in such
a vulnerable situation like this. I mean, this is reminding
me of those people at the urgent care that we're posting,
like the women's stains on the oh yeah, the paper
so stupid, like you know, going to this place that
you should be trustworthy of and they're just violating you.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
In the world. This is what's scary too, because Gabe
and I were talking about that this morning, about the
the meta AI glasses, Like right now, if someone has them,
a lot of people could tell that a person has them,
but like someone like, uh, the old lady lives across
the street that we're friends with, Like she don't know
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what that shit is, right, Like like younger people know
what it is obviously, but don't you think within the
next couple of years, it's going to be like that
shit is like nobody could tell what it is. Of course,
right now. Yeah, exactly, They're just going to keep redesigning
them until you can't. And that's what so scary because
because you don't. I mean, I'm sure they might be
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helpful in some situations if you're trying to go undercover
to see if the Campbell soup company is making fake
meat with the three D printer or something. But like
for the most part, how like it's going to be
perverts that are doing it right well exactly, and it's
or the people that are trying to hide things that
they maybe shouldn't be filming or something. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So speaking of perverts, this guy was caught on camera
sniffing a couch at a dance studio after an underage
girl got up from the seat.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That would that this is like the weirdest video ever.
This guy. This guy just there's a little girl sitting
on the seat and he just like creeps in and
like smells the couch. It's so god and it makes
me want to beat that dude up for real.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And who is this guy? Is he the parent of
another girl that's dancing at the studio or was he
just like outside of the dance studio looking through the window.
And then just walked in and did it, because it
kind of seems like that he needs to get his
ass for real. The police said they know who he is,
and they're determining if they're going to press charges or not.
I mean, what charges? What would you press?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, but what are you determining? I don't like. I
guess they don't have I.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Don't not fall into some weird legal loophole, like what
is the charge? Because even with the I don't know,
it's like he was getting in people's spaces and harassing them.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
I don't know, Like I feel like I feel like
that should be grounds to investigate a person to see
if they're involved with paedophilia, Like why else would you
be sniffing the couch of where a little child was sitting.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
But they're not going to do anything anyway, because think
about people that are openly stalking victims and they're like, well,
we can't do anything unless they threaten to harm you. Yeah,
I know, and then all of a sudden, somebody's murdered.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I don't know, it's just it. It's really like my
kid goes to dance school, Like I don't even I
don't want to think about that that would if that
happened and that was my child, like I would find
that guy and like have a conversation with him.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
As Gabe would say, all right, last story. An organ
donor group is being investigated after they allegedly told a
hospital to harvest from a patient who is showing signs
of life. This is really not helping the rumors that
they don't keep you alive.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, I was thinking about this. Of course, this happened
at Virtue near Us and Camden. The our lady Lords,
which the hospital employees, seem like they did the right thing.
They were I guess they got the okay to harvest
this person and when so, when a person dies and
donates their organs, they're considered to be brain dead, but
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they still are technically being kept alive on certain machines
to keep the organs alive, to keep the oxygenated blood
moving through the organ so when they take it out
it's as fresh as possible. But technically the person's dead.
They're declared legally brain dead and they're dead. So I
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guess they called this organ donation company and said, okay,
we're going to harvest these organs, and then when they
went in to start doing it. They were saying that
the patient showed signs of life. So I guess what
part I'm confused about is that those surgeons then called
the donation center and said, listen, this person is showing
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signs of life, like, what do we do. I don't
even understand.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I don't think they were asking what do we do.
I think they were just saying, they're showing signs of life,
so we're going to be stopping the procedures, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
And then the lady was like, that's why. I was like,
why would you even call them? They needed to keep operating. Yeah. So,
and if that's the case, and there's the there's a
lawsuit going through right now and everything apparently there's been
documentation to cover up the incident, And if that's the
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case and that really happened, like it's just they don't
need any negative news right now because people, I'm like
the biggest pro organ donation person and this kind of
shit makes me nervous. We had a story, do you
remember the story that we had a couple years ago
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about a man who woke up during organ harvesting who's
now alive still you know, survived that. So that was
a huge thing, and as a person that wants to
donate their family member's organs when they die, you want
to make sure that that that practice is legit and
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you're not doing anything that you're not supposed to be doing.
I really don't understand why she would tell them to
keep doing it, because she doesn't have any medical training
like that. That's why I'm like, I mean, I guess
if they were just called to say, like, hey, we're
just letting you know you're not getting these organs because
this person is still alive, then I don't even know
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why she would bother saying back, no, keep them alive,
because like she doesn't have any control over that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Well, there is a lot of issues going on here,
so they're saying. The House Committee reached out to this
company for more info in July and then said they
have since uncovered more evidence of potentially illegal operations. And
then they were also accused of failing to obtain proper
consent from donors' families, skipping patients on transplant lists, and
obscuring a mass discard of one hundred pancreas is obtained
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for research.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, no, I'm sorry, and skipping people on the list
and stuff like why well it's not and who who's
deciding like which person should get it? I mean, I
know that certain patients take priority over other patients, but
that would and which, which is a totally legal thing,
but obviously what they're doing is not legal. So I mean,
(25:57):
it's just it's just concerning because we around here and
there's if that's the organ the major organ donation uh
establishment in this area, then that makes me nervous as
a resident that might have a family member that needs
to use that. Well.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Yeah, so they have until December third to produce these
documents that have been requested, but it's not seeming like
it's going well. If they're already uncovering a bunch of
other problems in this company, it's.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, I don't know. I still I still want to
believe that. I know a lot of people that work
in the field that just like, they feel very passionate
about it and they're legit, and you would just hate
for it to go downhill because a couple of like
sketchy people, you know, well, at least the hospital stepped
in and seemed to do that. Yeah they were yeah,
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they were just like yeah, no, I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
But obviously they had to report them because major red flag,
right you get. Yeah, and even so, I'm like, what
was that, like, like they stopped this procedure and then
they're all in the lounge later being like that was weird, right, Yeah,
I'm sure, I'm sure it was interesting. All right, guys,
We hope you had a great Thanksgiving and happy shopping
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