March 18, 2024 • 24 mins
Bringing her incredible food from her restaurant, Shaw-naé's House in Staten Island, we get to know all about her incredible journey to where she is today!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Today's Daily Highlight from Elvis Duran in the Morning show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I've been waiting for Shawnee Dixon. Do sit in this chair?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
She was gonna come on one day. There was some
there was a little little detour, but you're but now
you're here, Welcome to the show. I don't know where
to start right. First of all, if you go to
if you go to uh Shawne's house on Staten Island,
like we where we met heaving dinner, you feel like
you're in a friend's living room. It's comfortable, it's cool,
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it's chill. The food is just all the stuff we love.
How do you describe your soul food?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
The bomb, the best I don't know, like the most authentic,
the most delicious, the most soulful.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's so good. It's a taste of heart in every bite.
I have a little bit of everything under my nails
right now.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yes, I have corn.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Bread, and I've got pudding, the banana pudding.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
It you went French on us wearing it's so good.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And the fried chicken unbelievable, the oxtail incredible.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yes, I had to do that for you because that
was what you had when you came to the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So I was like, I can't leave it out.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So that was requiring my four hours of attention since
one o'clock this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
The thing about oxtail is even though it's messy, you
got to eat it with your fingers.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Rap, absolutely no. Fork.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Let's talk about Shawnay's background. I mean, uh, you started
bonding I think with your grandmother when it in her cooking, right, yes,
and she got you sucked in.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, she sucked me in. Out of nineteen grandkids. It
was like somebody had to pick it up. Nobody else
really was picking it up and like getting what she
was trying to push on us. And so I decided,
you know, Grandma, I'm gonna do it. And then when
I told her that I was going to do it,
she says, shoot, don't do this, don't do it. Nobody's
gonna help you. Nobody's gonna do it. And she was
kind of like scared for me to start my catering business. First,
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She's like, don't do it. It's it's very scared. Nobody's
going to help you. Family's terrible. And I said I'm
not gonna do it anyway. She was like she right,
is family terrible yeah, she said some other words that
I already got a lesson on that I'm not allowed
to say on here.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
So she just let me know, don't do it because
they won't help.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Hey, can we talk about your family history, the heritage
of your family on Staten Island. Yes, all the way
back down back to the historic Sandy Ground days. Tell
everyone what Sandy Ground is and was, right, and how
you and your family were stirred into the whole whole community.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
So my grandmother used to whisper the things that were
super important that I didn't realize were important when I
was young. Sandy Ground was first called Harrisville, then it
was called Little Africa, and then it got its name
Sandy Ground. My ancestor, Captain John Jackson, was the first
free Black to purchase property on Staten Island. I am
an eighth generation direct descended to Captain John Jackson. He
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landed there and we started the establishment of Sandy Ground
in seventeen ninety nine. They dated all the way back.
My grandmother did a lot with our family tree. In
eighteen twenty eight he was able to purchase the first
bit of land, and then in eighteen fifty he built
our church so my church is still standing. The church
that's still standing there, the two cottages that are there,
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the African, the burial ground that is still there, and
some of the homes that are there are all protected
by the government. They're all being preserved because it is
the oldest community inhabited by its original descendants in the
United States. So we have something that nobody else has.
We have that kind of culture, that kind of history
pretty much living on Staten Island. It was also documented
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that it was a part of the underground railroad. My ancestor,
Captain John Jackson, owned his own ship. He used to
go back and forth into New Jersey and pick up
Harriet Tubman. Harry Tumman would come and stay chill. She
would get her change her clothes, take a shower, eat
some soul food, and make sure that you know everyone
all the enslaved that she was bringing up to be freed,
work safe. And Captain was like, nah, I got him.
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You go ahead and go back and go get some
more and bring them to me and I'll come back
and pick them up.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I love it. Wow, I've never heard anyone say that.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yes, tell the story about when people came in and
burned the crops.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
So yeah, so like he was an oysterman, he owned
his own ship. He came here with those skills, and
there was like a heavy oyster you know, harvesting field
or space all surrounding Staten Island, New Jersey, you know,
New Jersey area.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
All that area.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
So he would harvest all these oysters and teach the
slaves how to do it so they could help stabilize
and build community in Sandy Ground. And our counterparts, unfortunately,
came and saw that this was a thriving elya black
community on Staten Island that was untapped. Nobody knew what
was going on. You know, they're looking across the water
like what the heck is going on? But they don't
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need us. How we get over there and figure that
part out. So, you know, they get on their kayaks
and come over there, and they decided to pollute the
water and kill all the oysters and say we're gonna
take away your business. Because at that point we had
already established oyster bars, nightlife restaurants, like all those things
were on land, transportation, all these things were already happening
and thriving on Staten Island with the black community that
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was there pretty much by themselves, but also cohabitating with
reservation Indians that lived there.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm also Indian.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
So they came and polluted the water and they thought
that they were going to destroy the community that way.
And we were still farming. So he was also a farmer,
so he was teaching him how to farm. They were
growing asparagus, blueberries, and strawberries over there, and then they decided, Okay,
you know, you guys are still doing stuff, you're still winning,
so we're going.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
To burn the ground up.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
So at the time it was Harrisville, they burnt all
of the land, all of the farm, and decided they
wanted to take that business away from them. And what
happened was the ground was so sandy that people, you know,
they thought nothing is going to grow here, and they
continue to cultivate in that sand and say, no, we're
going to grow things. And strawberries came growing like wildfire,
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like the same fire you burnt. The strawberries were growing
out of it. Cash patch kids like just coming all
over the place. So the strawberries were flourishing. And it
sustained our stability, our our history, our prosperity, our legacy, everything.
It kept us afloat because we were still able to
harvest a produce and.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They thought they were going to get them.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
They thought they thought they was taking us out. But
that just you know, strawberry lemonade time. You know what
I'm saying something lemonade, lemons and lemonade.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
That's what it was.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So when you go to Shaun's house and have dinner,
these stories are in every single bite you take. And
that is what a great restaurant at its foundation is
all about. Yeah, you know, if you went into a
restaurant and actually got to meet the chef, find out
the story. But especially if it's a story as rich
as this, the food tastes different, it's spiced differently. Yea
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in your mind and in your heart, and it's that
was a great night we had with you.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's an experience.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I had a great night because I was told I'm
bringing a real celebrity here, and I was like, who's
the real celebrity that one of your friend. I'm not
going to put it out there, Matt, I love you.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Real celebrity over. I was like, Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
And when he came in, you know, I'm going in
the back and look on my phone, I'm researching because
I'm like, else the random.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Like what is he? Like, what is he doing? Where's
he from?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
And I'm like, when you came in, it was just
you actually brought in the energy that I will only embrace,
you know what I mean? Like I oil that door
every single day to make sure I treat it like
a sanctuary so that the people that come into that
space belong there is it is for the people that
are there for that day, they are supposed to experience that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And when you came in, you.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Brought this really beautiful, organic, sort of Southern hospitality energy
in there, and you just treated everybody the same. It
was just being very humble and being very loving and
talking to everybody. Matt took her you know, I love
you if you're listening to me on the radio. He
was so excited to see you. He was like, Seanna,
that's Elvis.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Durant over there.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
My god, listen to a show every morning. How the
hell is he in here right now? What did you do?
And I'm like, I just cooked. And they come.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
And he spoke to them at the end of the
night and they were so sweet. Yeah, he just went
over to their table, and I was just like, this
is what Seanay's house is.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's it's it's a home for everybody.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
So I was so grateful to have you guys there,
you know, and be able to create that experience. And
then you created a real crazy buzz that kind of
like bought me upside the head that I wasn't ready for.
But Ryan, Ryan can not beating, came right after. He
is so great, and you know, like for me, I
don't like pay attention to people coming in or know
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anybody's status or who they are.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So when he came in, I treated him like everybody else.
He has a camera.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Everbody asked me for my picture too. I'm kind of
like a big thing, you know. And so so then
he usually like asking me for my photo. And he
was sitting at the table and he got his camera
and he was he was pretty sophisticated.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
His camera was sophisticated. He's sitting there is eating.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I'm saying, hey, do you want this? Do you need
that or what I And he's like yeah, and he
said can I take a picture with you? Can you
come and sit down? I'm like, shure, en up, prom
this guy wants my picture and I sat down, and
then he didn't put it out for like maybe like
two and a half weeks, and by that time it
was you that came in.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I was in the paper.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Then Alexander Small's the Opera turned first Fine Dining Soul
Food restaurant Tour came into the restaurant right after that.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Then I was in the paper again.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
That was two weeks and then I went into the
hospital after almost dying and had a surgery, and then
I begged the doctor to let me out because I said, listen,
my restaurant has to open tomorrow because my restaurant's popping.
Like I can't be inconsistent. You gotta let me out.
And he was like, you have stitches at your stomach
and I'm like, oh no, you gotta let me out.
That's when I was supposed to come.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Who won that fight?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I won because I was out. I was out. They
discharged me Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I opened up on Thursday and then boom, Brian put
on the video and now here it is, I'm viral
with stitches running around with lines all crazy out the door,
and I'm like, what do I do now? And I
just I told my husband, I said, babe, double up,
like we got to get it together. We have to
really get this thing going, because it's this is not
going to stop.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Let's talk about this.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Let's talk about how propulsion lack of a better word, yeah,
is thrusting you into the into outer space. And I
had you got to stop and remind yourself you gotta
hold on, yeah, because it could all.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Just it could go really really crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Like in the shower, I'm almost like I'm gonna just
go and get a job. My husband's like, are you
kidding me right now? Like are you serious? Do you
see where you're going? Like I'm like, yeah, it's kind
of scary. I don't I don't know if we're canna
handle it.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Where do you want? Is it going where you wanted
to go?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Is absolutely going where I want to go.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
It is absolutely going where I asked for it to go,
manifested for it to be like this is all happening,
you know, Like I am embracing being somebody, a public figure,
a speaker, you know, an author, a restauranteur, a multi millionaire, billionaire,
I'll take billionaire, you know, Like I'm putting all these
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things in the atmosphere, and these are the things that
I want, But I you know, like there's a part
of me that just because of what my legacy is,
because of where my family comes from, because of what
Staten Island means to me, because of how my family is,
there's a part of me that's like, can I just
hold on to this one little piece where I stay
kind of like normal and like humble. And I feel
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like you're a powerful example of that, you know, Like
for you to be able to come around knowing you
have all of these opportunities, access network and you still
just talk to people. That's what I want, you know
what I mean, And that's what I ask for. But
I also still want to be the beep word, you
know what I mean? Like I want to be the
person that people are looking towards and for for whatever
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that might be advice or recipes or ideas or creativity.
I believe I want all those things, and I think
those things are coming. I see those things happening to
me because everybody wants to take a picture of me.
I'm one of the elves Duran show, Like, how do
you stop something like that?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And I wouldn't. I wouldn't never stop it. Are you
ever going to make it accessible. So you're in Staten Island,
I'm in Jersey City. I want to gets food all
the time. What are my chances? So your chances are
very I'm not gonna say they're slim.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
They are coming because since going super viral, I have
been offered multiple spaces all over the world, like everywhere
all over the world. I've been offered Dubai, I've been
offered Texas, I've been offered Las Vegas, California, Hawaii, New Jersey,
you know, multiple spaces in Brooklyn, State and is like
every day every maybe start with New Jersey. They're very
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you know, they're very supportive. New Jersey is very supportive.
In Shawn's house, you know, people come from all over
the world into my restaurant. I'm a six table, exclusive,
soulful boutique. And you know it's for the who's who
you know and everybody's who's who. As far as I'm concerned,
you just got to get a reservation right And I
had a four point nine and you know why I
keep you know why it goes down because they can't
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get in. Getting in there is you gotta know me.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I space.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I need a bigger space. But I love the intimacy
of this space, you know what I mean. I actually, yeah,
this is kind of like my sort of flagship, be
kind of store, you know what I mean. Yeah, I
want to keep that.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
It is perfect the way it is. But I see
what Daniel's saying, Well, right, see, this is where as
an entrepreneur, as a as a business leader, you have
to start making these decisions like well, what I will
do this, but at what costs?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Right? Right?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
And sometimes you give up stuff that makes it magic.
You know you got it, but only you can do it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I know. I have to choose those kind of things.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
And like right now, like with this, what God is
telling me is like, take all of these opportunities, look
at every single one of them, and then delegate.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You don't have to do every.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Single one of them, but you can delegate how all
of these things get done. And so I've been taking
the meetings. I've been you know, like sitting down with people.
I've been you know, taking the phone calls. I've been,
you know, looking at the spaces. I've been doing all
these things. It's just now I have to get to
the point where I have the team that supports that
where I can say, hey, you.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Go do this, you go do that, you go do this.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
You can trust them, right And I gotta trust them,
you know, because I'm on my oprah and I got
to get out of here. I got somewhere to go,
you know what I mean. And I need you guys
to handle it. So I'm hoping that it, you know,
goes there kind of fast, because I feel like I'm
kind of like moving and fast forward and it's moving
much faster than I thought I could control.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
But I'm not going to try to control it. I'm
gonna just let it go.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Lots of text messages. I'm so ready to drive from Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Come on, I've had Connecticut, I've had New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
She's so amazing and beautiful. Her stories are making me
cry even the way she's described He question did her
grandmother get to see her success? Is her grandmother still alive?
So my grandmother is passed and I lost my grandma.
But I did have an experience prior to me opening
up my restaurant. I wanted to be able to share this.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Experience with you because people always ask me why did
I open up my restaurant? So I had a really
thriving catering business for five years and I worked with
everybody in the industry. Anybody that you can think of,
I had seen and I was the hitch of soul food.
You had to know me, you had to know how
to get my phone number. I was a secret, but
I was. But I would had spread like it just
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spread ed Norton, Danny Glover, Bruce Willis. Everybody was like
calling Cardi b All people were like calling me, having
me do these things, Charlemagne, all of them, and I
would go and see them or I would do work on
their sets or their television shows, their music videos and
all these things. And I thought that that was going
to be the gist of my business because I made
so much money doing it. I kind of liked it
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because I liked working with all those people all the time.
And my husband was really like the one that was
like pressing, like, Okay, maybe we should do a restaurant,
and I'm like, don't try to like tame me. I
don't want to be in a little spot and be
committed to one thing. And when the pandemic hit, I
had got a really big deal and I thought, oh,
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this is it.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I'm going to go down south.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I'm gonna do this and we're gonna make so much money,
and now it's really going to open up and boom,
pandemic hit.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I don't get the job.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
We're sitting down, we're quiet, and we're still I had
the most supernatural outer body experience because I had had
a premonition many years before all of that, where on
September tenth, two thousand and one, I had saw what
happened on September eleventh, two thousand and one. I was
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driving in the car and I'm like seeing smoke and
fire and sirens, and I'm like going through the date
and I'm writing it over and over again, nine one one,
nine eleven, and I'm like, Mom, tomorrow is going to
be a state of emergency.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
She's like, what are you talking about? And she just
ignored me.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Now, if I fast forward to two thousand and fifteen,
where my business is thriving, and I see nine eleven
am on there as I'm cooking for a catering job,
and I'm like, I heard God say, pay attention to
that date, and I'm pay attention to the to the time,
and when I did without prompting, every day when I
pull out my phone, nine eleven would show up at
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am or pm every single day, and I would screenshot it.
There's a I have one hundred and twelve thousand pictures
in my phone because most of them are the screenshots.
And so I see this nine to eleven every day,
and now here it is two thy and twenty. And
I had no idea that it was going to be
that day. But on nine eleven, twenty twenty, I had
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passed away. I had the opportunity to experience transitioning and
going in on the other side.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And seeing my grandmother again.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
And when I passed away, my son, who's thirteen, had
witnessed me, had saw me, discovered me and called my
husband and told my husband, you need to come home
because mom is unresponsive. And my husband said, you know,
the reason why he something clicked in his head while
he was out exercising to return and come back so
fast was because my son plays Fortnite and he's thirteen,
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and why would he use the term unresponsive. So when
he got there, they took me out. I actually was
in the bathtub and I wasn't submerged under water. I
was above the water where my son found me, and
when they pulled me out of the bathtub and laid
me there, you know, and ems came and everybody and
they're like, you know, we don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
We don't know how to do this, We don't you know,
what are we gonna do? You know?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
My husband is like, I need to get her to
the hospital. We need to figure this thing out. And
they scooted him over, moved him over to the side
as they decided to, you know, work on me when
they weren't sure if I was going to survive it
or we'd be resuscitated and come back. And I was revived,
and when they revived me, they put me on a
life support and I was in a coma during that time.
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There's no time, there's no space, there's no anything. But
what I felt on the other side was just this
very warm and very significant, secure hug during death. That's
what it feels like to me. That's how I have
to explain it to people when I do tell them
what that was. And so that warm and very secure
hug was like you are good, everything is okay. And
so when I got to speak to the spirit, I
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could see over myself a flashing light that was moving
sort of like an eight, and the eight was moving
over my body and I could hear the voice saying,
I'm making these doctors work with accuracy and the nurses
move with urgency. Are you prepared to get up? And so,
being that there's no time, there's no space, there's no
nothing going on, it was like, okay, if I get up,
I'm doing what?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Like what am I doing?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Because this hug feels really really good, like don't I
can't feel anything else but this? And my grandmother came
and she's like, shoe. And so I was raised as
shoe shoe. They say shoe fly, don't bother me when
I was a kid. But I knew that it was
somebody that was close to me that was calling me shoe.
And so when on the other side, you don't get
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to like see faces, but you feel the vibration of
people and you can kind of almost identify who that
person may be on the other side, And so I
knew it was my grandmother. And as she's coming up,
she's like, shoo, it's not your turn, it's not your time.
And now when you go back, you know you're dying.
You know you're you're out right now, but you're out
with nothing. You have no nothing. You have twenty two thousand.
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I was in the bank.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You're going to leave that to your family to have nothing.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Nobody remember you. You don't do anything that's powerful. You
got to go back, get up and go back. And
my aunt was there with her her sister, and they're like, yeah, shoot,
just go back, Just just go back. And I'm like,
go back where you know, like going Where am I going?
Where am I going back to? And so as that
time is passing and I go to get up. What
was told to my husband, who I truly love and
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adore for being an anchor and believing that I was
going to get up, for my children being that same
anchor saying she's going to get up. Having to go
through those four days of not knowing if I was
going to get up and then believing that I was
going to get up, is like it blows my mind
every single day being awake because it's like, what would
they you have done had I not woken up? And
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the doctor says it's looking kind of bad and we
don't really know she's going to get up. It's kind
of critical. She's in a bad situation. And for me
to be lying there and being very smooth about it
and calm and cugged. It's just like do I get up?
And when I got up, my husband wasn't there. I
wake up and I look at the sign and I'm like,
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why am I at this hospital in ICU? And I
guess the beeping is going off, the IV's and everything
is going off. But the whole entire hospital runs into
the room and they're crying. Doctors are crying, they're out
of sorts. Nurses are crying. They're like what is going on?
This woman is talking and I'm like, yes, why am
I here? Why what is going on? And they're like
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you're not supposed to be talking. You're not supposed to
be doing anything. You're supposed to be dead. And I
was like what. And the doctor's like moving their hands
and I mean, they have totally lost bedside man, and
they're like you had to be resuscitated. They're moving their
hands like they're doing the work. They're like, you were dead,
you're not supposed to get up. What you had was
incurable and untreatable and there was no way to really
save you. We just let you lay there until it
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was time. And I was like, really like that's how
it goes down. They We're like, yeah, make you come
just so you can go. And I was like, that's unbelievable,
Like that's what it was. And they told me, you know,
like you're not going to be able to walk, You're
not gonna be able to get yourself dressed. And these
were things that I was doing. In the next couple
of days. I was having these experiences where I'm learning
to walk. In three days, I'm still talking, I'm eating.
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And then at that point it was like being able
to have the conversation not just with myself and the
people that I see, it was also about embracing the
gift to be able to also experience people on the
other side that were there.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
So like, look at you now and look at me now.
So entwer to that text, Yes she saw our grandmother,
Yes she was there. So before we get out of here. Yes,
that experience obviously is what has propelled you.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It pushed me, said, opened it up.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
So how does someone listening right now want to experience
all the great things that are waiting for them out
in the world that they can create without having to die?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Right?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
And so I do speak that light into every single
person that I meet, especially coming into the restaurant, because
that was the purpose for the restaurant was to encounter
people and engage with them, to teach them how to
live a very full life. Live your entire life, enjoy
the potential or the understanding of what the potential of
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your life is. Don't allow your fears to crack you,
don't don't get stuck on the dark side.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Don't let people break you.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Don't let anything in this world become more important than
your purpose and your destiny. Those things are so important.
You have to have so much courage to walk in
your own authority and know that you were sent here
to do something super powerful and purposeful and impactful. And
if you don't do that, someone is missing out on
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you and you are missing out on you. So I
would say, don't die doing these things. Live doing these things.
Live to do the things that you were sent.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Here today, Dixon. If you do, it's for Shawnee's house
instead island. You'll learn so much more about her. And
you've learned a lot today. A wife, mother, entrepreneur, social
change agent, and author who makes a hell of a
plate of auxtail.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
We love having you here.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I appreciate you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Having you here was a gift for everyone.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Shawnee, everyone, Hey you come back and see you
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So you tell me want I'm coming to hang out
and bringing chicken wings.
Today's Daily Highlight from Elvis Duran in the Morning show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I've been waiting for Shawnee Dixon. Do sit in this chair?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
She was gonna come on one day. There was some
there was a little little detour, but you're but now
you're here, Welcome to the show. I don't know where
to start right. First of all, if you go to
if you go to uh Shawne's house on Staten Island,
like we where we met heaving dinner, you feel like
you're in a friend's living room. It's comfortable, it's cool,
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it's chill. The food is just all the stuff we love.
How do you describe your soul food?
Speaker 4 (00:39):
The bomb, the best I don't know, like the most authentic,
the most delicious, the most soulful.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It's so good. It's a taste of heart in every bite.
I have a little bit of everything under my nails
right now.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yes, I have corn.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Bread, and I've got pudding, the banana pudding.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
It you went French on us wearing it's so good.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And the fried chicken unbelievable, the oxtail incredible.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yes, I had to do that for you because that
was what you had when you came to the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So I was like, I can't leave it out.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
So that was requiring my four hours of attention since
one o'clock this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
The thing about oxtail is even though it's messy, you
got to eat it with your fingers.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Rap, absolutely no. Fork.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Let's talk about Shawnay's background. I mean, uh, you started
bonding I think with your grandmother when it in her cooking, right, yes,
and she got you sucked in.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, she sucked me in. Out of nineteen grandkids. It
was like somebody had to pick it up. Nobody else
really was picking it up and like getting what she
was trying to push on us. And so I decided,
you know, Grandma, I'm gonna do it. And then when
I told her that I was going to do it,
she says, shoot, don't do this, don't do it. Nobody's
gonna help you. Nobody's gonna do it. And she was
kind of like scared for me to start my catering business. First,
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She's like, don't do it. It's it's very scared. Nobody's
going to help you. Family's terrible. And I said I'm
not gonna do it anyway. She was like she right,
is family terrible yeah, she said some other words that
I already got a lesson on that I'm not allowed
to say on here.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
So she just let me know, don't do it because
they won't help.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Hey, can we talk about your family history, the heritage
of your family on Staten Island. Yes, all the way
back down back to the historic Sandy Ground days. Tell
everyone what Sandy Ground is and was, right, and how
you and your family were stirred into the whole whole community.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
So my grandmother used to whisper the things that were
super important that I didn't realize were important when I
was young. Sandy Ground was first called Harrisville, then it
was called Little Africa, and then it got its name
Sandy Ground. My ancestor, Captain John Jackson, was the first
free Black to purchase property on Staten Island. I am
an eighth generation direct descended to Captain John Jackson. He
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landed there and we started the establishment of Sandy Ground
in seventeen ninety nine. They dated all the way back.
My grandmother did a lot with our family tree. In
eighteen twenty eight he was able to purchase the first
bit of land, and then in eighteen fifty he built
our church so my church is still standing. The church
that's still standing there, the two cottages that are there,
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the African, the burial ground that is still there, and
some of the homes that are there are all protected
by the government. They're all being preserved because it is
the oldest community inhabited by its original descendants in the
United States. So we have something that nobody else has.
We have that kind of culture, that kind of history
pretty much living on Staten Island. It was also documented
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that it was a part of the underground railroad. My ancestor,
Captain John Jackson, owned his own ship. He used to
go back and forth into New Jersey and pick up
Harriet Tubman. Harry Tumman would come and stay chill. She
would get her change her clothes, take a shower, eat
some soul food, and make sure that you know everyone
all the enslaved that she was bringing up to be freed,
work safe. And Captain was like, nah, I got him.
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You go ahead and go back and go get some
more and bring them to me and I'll come back
and pick them up.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I love it. Wow, I've never heard anyone say that.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yes, tell the story about when people came in and
burned the crops.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
So yeah, so like he was an oysterman, he owned
his own ship. He came here with those skills, and
there was like a heavy oyster you know, harvesting field
or space all surrounding Staten Island, New Jersey, you know,
New Jersey area.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
All that area.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
So he would harvest all these oysters and teach the
slaves how to do it so they could help stabilize
and build community in Sandy Ground. And our counterparts, unfortunately,
came and saw that this was a thriving elya black
community on Staten Island that was untapped. Nobody knew what
was going on. You know, they're looking across the water
like what the heck is going on? But they don't
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need us. How we get over there and figure that
part out. So, you know, they get on their kayaks
and come over there, and they decided to pollute the
water and kill all the oysters and say we're gonna
take away your business. Because at that point we had
already established oyster bars, nightlife restaurants, like all those things
were on land, transportation, all these things were already happening
and thriving on Staten Island with the black community that
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was there pretty much by themselves, but also cohabitating with
reservation Indians that lived there.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I'm also Indian.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
So they came and polluted the water and they thought
that they were going to destroy the community that way.
And we were still farming. So he was also a farmer,
so he was teaching him how to farm. They were
growing asparagus, blueberries, and strawberries over there, and then they decided, Okay,
you know, you guys are still doing stuff, you're still winning,
so we're going.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
To burn the ground up.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
So at the time it was Harrisville, they burnt all
of the land, all of the farm, and decided they
wanted to take that business away from them. And what
happened was the ground was so sandy that people, you know,
they thought nothing is going to grow here, and they
continue to cultivate in that sand and say, no, we're
going to grow things. And strawberries came growing like wildfire,
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like the same fire you burnt. The strawberries were growing
out of it. Cash patch kids like just coming all
over the place. So the strawberries were flourishing. And it
sustained our stability, our our history, our prosperity, our legacy, everything.
It kept us afloat because we were still able to
harvest a produce and.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
They thought they were going to get them.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
They thought they thought they was taking us out. But
that just you know, strawberry lemonade time. You know what
I'm saying something lemonade, lemons and lemonade.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
That's what it was.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
So when you go to Shaun's house and have dinner,
these stories are in every single bite you take. And
that is what a great restaurant at its foundation is
all about. Yeah, you know, if you went into a
restaurant and actually got to meet the chef, find out
the story. But especially if it's a story as rich
as this, the food tastes different, it's spiced differently. Yea
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in your mind and in your heart, and it's that
was a great night we had with you.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's an experience.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I had a great night because I was told I'm
bringing a real celebrity here, and I was like, who's
the real celebrity that one of your friend. I'm not
going to put it out there, Matt, I love you.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Real celebrity over. I was like, Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
And when he came in, you know, I'm going in
the back and look on my phone, I'm researching because
I'm like, else the random.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Like what is he? Like, what is he doing? Where's
he from?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
And I'm like, when you came in, it was just
you actually brought in the energy that I will only embrace,
you know what I mean? Like I oil that door
every single day to make sure I treat it like
a sanctuary so that the people that come into that
space belong there is it is for the people that
are there for that day, they are supposed to experience that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And when you came in, you.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Brought this really beautiful, organic, sort of Southern hospitality energy
in there, and you just treated everybody the same. It
was just being very humble and being very loving and
talking to everybody. Matt took her you know, I love
you if you're listening to me on the radio. He
was so excited to see you. He was like, Seanna,
that's Elvis.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Durant over there.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
My god, listen to a show every morning. How the
hell is he in here right now? What did you do?
And I'm like, I just cooked. And they come.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
And he spoke to them at the end of the
night and they were so sweet. Yeah, he just went
over to their table, and I was just like, this
is what Seanay's house is.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's it's it's a home for everybody.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
So I was so grateful to have you guys there,
you know, and be able to create that experience. And
then you created a real crazy buzz that kind of
like bought me upside the head that I wasn't ready for.
But Ryan, Ryan can not beating, came right after. He
is so great, and you know, like for me, I
don't like pay attention to people coming in or know
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anybody's status or who they are.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
So when he came in, I treated him like everybody else.
He has a camera.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Everbody asked me for my picture too. I'm kind of
like a big thing, you know. And so so then
he usually like asking me for my photo. And he
was sitting at the table and he got his camera
and he was he was pretty sophisticated.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
His camera was sophisticated. He's sitting there is eating.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I'm saying, hey, do you want this? Do you need
that or what I And he's like yeah, and he
said can I take a picture with you? Can you
come and sit down? I'm like, shure, en up, prom
this guy wants my picture and I sat down, and
then he didn't put it out for like maybe like
two and a half weeks, and by that time it
was you that came in.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I was in the paper.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Then Alexander Small's the Opera turned first Fine Dining Soul
Food restaurant Tour came into the restaurant right after that.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Then I was in the paper again.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
That was two weeks and then I went into the
hospital after almost dying and had a surgery, and then
I begged the doctor to let me out because I said, listen,
my restaurant has to open tomorrow because my restaurant's popping.
Like I can't be inconsistent. You gotta let me out.
And he was like, you have stitches at your stomach
and I'm like, oh no, you gotta let me out.
That's when I was supposed to come.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Who won that fight?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
I won because I was out. I was out. They
discharged me Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I opened up on Thursday and then boom, Brian put
on the video and now here it is, I'm viral
with stitches running around with lines all crazy out the door,
and I'm like, what do I do now? And I
just I told my husband, I said, babe, double up,
like we got to get it together. We have to
really get this thing going, because it's this is not
going to stop.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Let's talk about this.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Let's talk about how propulsion lack of a better word, yeah,
is thrusting you into the into outer space. And I
had you got to stop and remind yourself you gotta
hold on, yeah, because it could all.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Just it could go really really crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Like in the shower, I'm almost like I'm gonna just
go and get a job. My husband's like, are you
kidding me right now? Like are you serious? Do you
see where you're going? Like I'm like, yeah, it's kind
of scary. I don't I don't know if we're canna
handle it.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Where do you want? Is it going where you wanted
to go?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Is absolutely going where I want to go.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
It is absolutely going where I asked for it to go,
manifested for it to be like this is all happening,
you know, Like I am embracing being somebody, a public figure,
a speaker, you know, an author, a restauranteur, a multi millionaire, billionaire,
I'll take billionaire, you know, Like I'm putting all these
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things in the atmosphere, and these are the things that
I want, But I you know, like there's a part
of me that just because of what my legacy is,
because of where my family comes from, because of what
Staten Island means to me, because of how my family is,
there's a part of me that's like, can I just
hold on to this one little piece where I stay
kind of like normal and like humble. And I feel
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like you're a powerful example of that, you know, Like
for you to be able to come around knowing you
have all of these opportunities, access network and you still
just talk to people. That's what I want, you know
what I mean, And that's what I ask for. But
I also still want to be the beep word, you
know what I mean? Like I want to be the
person that people are looking towards and for for whatever
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that might be advice or recipes or ideas or creativity.
I believe I want all those things, and I think
those things are coming. I see those things happening to
me because everybody wants to take a picture of me.
I'm one of the elves Duran show, Like, how do
you stop something like that?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And I wouldn't. I wouldn't never stop it. Are you
ever going to make it accessible. So you're in Staten Island,
I'm in Jersey City. I want to gets food all
the time. What are my chances? So your chances are
very I'm not gonna say they're slim.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
They are coming because since going super viral, I have
been offered multiple spaces all over the world, like everywhere
all over the world. I've been offered Dubai, I've been
offered Texas, I've been offered Las Vegas, California, Hawaii, New Jersey,
you know, multiple spaces in Brooklyn, State and is like
every day every maybe start with New Jersey. They're very
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you know, they're very supportive. New Jersey is very supportive.
In Shawn's house, you know, people come from all over
the world into my restaurant. I'm a six table, exclusive,
soulful boutique. And you know it's for the who's who
you know and everybody's who's who. As far as I'm concerned,
you just got to get a reservation right And I
had a four point nine and you know why I
keep you know why it goes down because they can't
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get in. Getting in there is you gotta know me.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I space.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I need a bigger space. But I love the intimacy
of this space, you know what I mean. I actually, yeah,
this is kind of like my sort of flagship, be
kind of store, you know what I mean. Yeah, I
want to keep that.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
It is perfect the way it is. But I see
what Daniel's saying, Well, right, see, this is where as
an entrepreneur, as a as a business leader, you have
to start making these decisions like well, what I will
do this, but at what costs?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Right? Right?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
And sometimes you give up stuff that makes it magic.
You know you got it, but only you can do it.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I know. I have to choose those kind of things.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
And like right now, like with this, what God is
telling me is like, take all of these opportunities, look
at every single one of them, and then delegate.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You don't have to do every.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Single one of them, but you can delegate how all
of these things get done. And so I've been taking
the meetings. I've been you know, like sitting down with people.
I've been you know, taking the phone calls. I've been,
you know, looking at the spaces. I've been doing all
these things. It's just now I have to get to
the point where I have the team that supports that
where I can say, hey, you.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Go do this, you go do that, you go do this.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
You can trust them, right And I gotta trust them,
you know, because I'm on my oprah and I got
to get out of here. I got somewhere to go,
you know what I mean. And I need you guys
to handle it. So I'm hoping that it, you know,
goes there kind of fast, because I feel like I'm
kind of like moving and fast forward and it's moving
much faster than I thought I could control.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
But I'm not going to try to control it. I'm
gonna just let it go.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Lots of text messages. I'm so ready to drive from Connecticut.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Come on, I've had Connecticut, I've had New Jersey.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
She's so amazing and beautiful. Her stories are making me
cry even the way she's described He question did her
grandmother get to see her success? Is her grandmother still alive?
So my grandmother is passed and I lost my grandma.
But I did have an experience prior to me opening
up my restaurant. I wanted to be able to share this.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Experience with you because people always ask me why did
I open up my restaurant? So I had a really
thriving catering business for five years and I worked with
everybody in the industry. Anybody that you can think of,
I had seen and I was the hitch of soul food.
You had to know me, you had to know how
to get my phone number. I was a secret, but
I was. But I would had spread like it just
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spread ed Norton, Danny Glover, Bruce Willis. Everybody was like
calling Cardi b All people were like calling me, having
me do these things, Charlemagne, all of them, and I
would go and see them or I would do work on
their sets or their television shows, their music videos and
all these things. And I thought that that was going
to be the gist of my business because I made
so much money doing it. I kind of liked it
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because I liked working with all those people all the time.
And my husband was really like the one that was
like pressing, like, Okay, maybe we should do a restaurant,
and I'm like, don't try to like tame me. I
don't want to be in a little spot and be
committed to one thing. And when the pandemic hit, I
had got a really big deal and I thought, oh,
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this is it.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I'm going to go down south.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I'm gonna do this and we're gonna make so much money,
and now it's really going to open up and boom,
pandemic hit.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I don't get the job.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
We're sitting down, we're quiet, and we're still I had
the most supernatural outer body experience because I had had
a premonition many years before all of that, where on
September tenth, two thousand and one, I had saw what
happened on September eleventh, two thousand and one. I was
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driving in the car and I'm like seeing smoke and
fire and sirens, and I'm like going through the date
and I'm writing it over and over again, nine one one,
nine eleven, and I'm like, Mom, tomorrow is going to
be a state of emergency.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
She's like, what are you talking about? And she just
ignored me.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Now, if I fast forward to two thousand and fifteen,
where my business is thriving, and I see nine eleven
am on there as I'm cooking for a catering job,
and I'm like, I heard God say, pay attention to
that date, and I'm pay attention to the to the time,
and when I did without prompting, every day when I
pull out my phone, nine eleven would show up at
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am or pm every single day, and I would screenshot it.
There's a I have one hundred and twelve thousand pictures
in my phone because most of them are the screenshots.
And so I see this nine to eleven every day,
and now here it is two thy and twenty. And
I had no idea that it was going to be
that day. But on nine eleven, twenty twenty, I had
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passed away. I had the opportunity to experience transitioning and
going in on the other side.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And seeing my grandmother again.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
And when I passed away, my son, who's thirteen, had
witnessed me, had saw me, discovered me and called my
husband and told my husband, you need to come home
because mom is unresponsive. And my husband said, you know,
the reason why he something clicked in his head while
he was out exercising to return and come back so
fast was because my son plays Fortnite and he's thirteen,
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and why would he use the term unresponsive. So when
he got there, they took me out. I actually was
in the bathtub and I wasn't submerged under water. I
was above the water where my son found me, and
when they pulled me out of the bathtub and laid
me there, you know, and ems came and everybody and
they're like, you know, we don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
We don't know how to do this, We don't you know,
what are we gonna do? You know?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
My husband is like, I need to get her to
the hospital. We need to figure this thing out. And
they scooted him over, moved him over to the side
as they decided to, you know, work on me when
they weren't sure if I was going to survive it
or we'd be resuscitated and come back. And I was revived,
and when they revived me, they put me on a
life support and I was in a coma during that time.
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There's no time, there's no space, there's no anything. But
what I felt on the other side was just this
very warm and very significant, secure hug during death. That's
what it feels like to me. That's how I have
to explain it to people when I do tell them
what that was. And so that warm and very secure
hug was like you are good, everything is okay. And
so when I got to speak to the spirit, I
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could see over myself a flashing light that was moving
sort of like an eight, and the eight was moving
over my body and I could hear the voice saying,
I'm making these doctors work with accuracy and the nurses
move with urgency. Are you prepared to get up? And so,
being that there's no time, there's no space, there's no
nothing going on, it was like, okay, if I get up,
I'm doing what?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Like what am I doing?
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Because this hug feels really really good, like don't I
can't feel anything else but this? And my grandmother came
and she's like, shoe. And so I was raised as
shoe shoe. They say shoe fly, don't bother me when
I was a kid. But I knew that it was
somebody that was close to me that was calling me shoe.
And so when on the other side, you don't get
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to like see faces, but you feel the vibration of
people and you can kind of almost identify who that
person may be on the other side, And so I
knew it was my grandmother. And as she's coming up,
she's like, shoo, it's not your turn, it's not your time.
And now when you go back, you know you're dying.
You know you're you're out right now, but you're out
with nothing. You have no nothing. You have twenty two thousand.
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I was in the bank.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
You're going to leave that to your family to have nothing.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Nobody remember you. You don't do anything that's powerful. You
got to go back, get up and go back. And
my aunt was there with her her sister, and they're like, yeah, shoot,
just go back, Just just go back. And I'm like,
go back where you know, like going Where am I going?
Where am I going back to? And so as that
time is passing and I go to get up. What
was told to my husband, who I truly love and
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adore for being an anchor and believing that I was
going to get up, for my children being that same
anchor saying she's going to get up. Having to go
through those four days of not knowing if I was
going to get up and then believing that I was
going to get up, is like it blows my mind
every single day being awake because it's like, what would
they you have done had I not woken up? And
(20:49):
the doctor says it's looking kind of bad and we
don't really know she's going to get up. It's kind
of critical. She's in a bad situation. And for me
to be lying there and being very smooth about it
and calm and cugged. It's just like do I get up?
And when I got up, my husband wasn't there. I
wake up and I look at the sign and I'm like,
(21:12):
why am I at this hospital in ICU? And I
guess the beeping is going off, the IV's and everything
is going off. But the whole entire hospital runs into
the room and they're crying. Doctors are crying, they're out
of sorts. Nurses are crying. They're like what is going on?
This woman is talking and I'm like, yes, why am
I here? Why what is going on? And they're like
(21:33):
you're not supposed to be talking. You're not supposed to
be doing anything. You're supposed to be dead. And I
was like what. And the doctor's like moving their hands
and I mean, they have totally lost bedside man, and
they're like you had to be resuscitated. They're moving their
hands like they're doing the work. They're like, you were dead,
you're not supposed to get up. What you had was
incurable and untreatable and there was no way to really
save you. We just let you lay there until it
(21:55):
was time. And I was like, really like that's how
it goes down. They We're like, yeah, make you come
just so you can go. And I was like, that's unbelievable,
Like that's what it was. And they told me, you know,
like you're not going to be able to walk, You're
not gonna be able to get yourself dressed. And these
were things that I was doing. In the next couple
of days. I was having these experiences where I'm learning
to walk. In three days, I'm still talking, I'm eating.
(22:17):
And then at that point it was like being able
to have the conversation not just with myself and the
people that I see, it was also about embracing the
gift to be able to also experience people on the
other side that were there.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
So like, look at you now and look at me now.
So entwer to that text, Yes she saw our grandmother,
Yes she was there. So before we get out of here. Yes,
that experience obviously is what has propelled you.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It pushed me, said, opened it up.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
So how does someone listening right now want to experience
all the great things that are waiting for them out
in the world that they can create without having to die?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Right?
Speaker 4 (22:58):
And so I do speak that light into every single
person that I meet, especially coming into the restaurant, because
that was the purpose for the restaurant was to encounter
people and engage with them, to teach them how to
live a very full life. Live your entire life, enjoy
the potential or the understanding of what the potential of
(23:18):
your life is. Don't allow your fears to crack you,
don't don't get stuck on the dark side.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Don't let people break you.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Don't let anything in this world become more important than
your purpose and your destiny. Those things are so important.
You have to have so much courage to walk in
your own authority and know that you were sent here
to do something super powerful and purposeful and impactful. And
if you don't do that, someone is missing out on
(23:48):
you and you are missing out on you. So I
would say, don't die doing these things. Live doing these things.
Live to do the things that you were sent.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Here today, Dixon. If you do, it's for Shawnee's house
instead island. You'll learn so much more about her. And
you've learned a lot today. A wife, mother, entrepreneur, social
change agent, and author who makes a hell of a
plate of auxtail.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
We love having you here.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
I appreciate you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Having you here was a gift for everyone.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Shawnee, everyone, Hey you come back and see you
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So you tell me want I'm coming to hang out
and bringing chicken wings.
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