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On today’s MKD, we get into ex-darts star, Bobby George's toe amputations, a boy who fell on a 3 inch nail, a lion who killed a man trying to use the toilet, a woman who faked sickle cell anemia, and a new smart period pad. 

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have a great
show for you today.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
First, we're going to talk about a sports figure who
had an operation to remove some of his toes and
decided to keep one of them in a very unusual
location in his mansion, an accident involving a very large
nail and a seven year old child, a man who
was killed by a lion on a camping trip, another
case of a person faking in illness in order to
get go fund me money, and of course other possible

(00:46):
uses for period blood.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Let's get started with this amputated toe story. X darts
star I didn't really know that was considered a sport
playing professional darts. Bobby George has a genetic deformity which
required him to have four operations to remove some toes,
two on each foot. Interestingly, he was allowed to keep
one of his toes that he had removed, and he

(01:09):
keeps it in a vodka bottle that's on display in
the bar of his home. Yeah, so the doctor handed
it to him. I guess it was in formaldehyde at
some point and they were like, okay, we could give
you this toe, but you're not taking the formaldehyde home.
So that to me means that it was already fixed
it for a couple of days, which is good. So
he was like, well, I guess I.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Could put it in rubbing alcohol or something, and he
was like, no, I'll just put it in I'll just
put it in vodka. So now it's on display, and
he said sometimes he whips it out and asks people
if they want a cocktail or a cock tow. So
I guess he so this is this is a common
thing that people go through. Not common, but it happens
to people that they have problems with their feet hit

(01:53):
he had really didn't say exactly what he was diagnosed with,
but just said he had overlapping toe that were ended
up being so uncomfortable and painful. There was a point
where he wanted to cut them off himself. And I've
heard that from people before. So you can get something
like overlapping toes with something like rheumatarid arthritis, which is

(02:14):
an autoimmune disease of the joints. My dad has a
coupler that are going that way. Oh my god, my
grandmom's feet were ridiculous. They were like pinky toe all
all the way going over to the big toe.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
It was crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
But you could also get it from having flat feet, bunions.
There's all sorts of other reasons that you can.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Get it too, So we don't know what he had.
He did say in the article that he had other
issues with.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
His hips, having authritis really bad in his hips, But
rheumatard arthritis is an autoimmune position, whereas uh osteoarthritis is
like wear and tear on the joints just from getting old.
So they didn't really say exactly what he had going
on in his body. But yeah, he got all of
his toes amputated, so he looks like he's got like

(03:01):
little stumps. I guess if people are surprised to even
hear it when he shows them, And I just think
this is kind of cool, Like that's something I would
want to do, So it's cool.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Can you imagine being at his house for like a
party or something and him just being like, oh, go
behind the bar and grab whatever you want, and then
you end up grabbing the toe vodka. Well, it's It's
also interesting because I always thought, you know, like back
in the day, they used to let little kids take
home their tonsils and stuff like that, and when you
look at it, it just looks like a piece of

(03:31):
chewed gum in a jar. But there's something about toes
and fingers that are they're they're human. They make it
seem human, and you look at it and you're like,
that's a body part. It's very clear to distinguish it.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
And I don't know, I just think so that it's
probably disturbing. Like you come over my house and you're
like whatever when you see stuff, but when you're at
like a regular person's house, you're just like, this is
this is really weird. And one of the interesting things though,
is that I want to tell you guys, in case
you want to take your toes home, it had already
been fixed in formal and so it was kind of
the formulain stops the decomposition process from happening, and a

(04:11):
toe is little, so they can get penetrated very easily
with the formulain, so you can transfer it to alcohol.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
At that point.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Now the vodka is like, okay, whatever, I get the joke,
but it's only forty percent alcohol. Worrek as like you
might want to do an ic of propenol alcohol or
something that's like seventy percent. The less water the better
it might preserve a little bit better. But yeah, I
think that this is so cool.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
It is. I like, I'm bummed there's not a picture
of it. Definitely interesting. All right. In India, a seven
year old boy was playing when he fell down and
landed on a three inch nail that went through his
neck up to his brain. We've been having a lot
of stories like this lately on here, but in the
gross room as well of just these insane like the

(04:58):
one we were talking about. Well, last week.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
In the gross room was this crazy domestic violence situation
involving a knife that went through this poor woman's face
and head. And it's like you always hear about these
these horrible things that could happen, and it just misses
a major blood vessel and doesn't kill the person, and
it's it's kind of really interesting that that happens all

(05:21):
the time. You look at this imaging and you're like,
how did this kid have a nail that was three
inches long and their little tiny head and not hit
any vital structures. It's just kind of amazing.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
No, it really is. And he's really lucky because they
did surgery. It ended up being successful, but that could
have been so horrible. I can't even imagine.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
This reminds me of this one time because when my
grandparents used to come visit, my mom and my grandma
used to go out shopping or something, and my dad
and my grandpa were in charge of watching my brother,
which entailed them sitting on the couch and watching sports
and my brother just doing whatever he was doing, which
and he was a he got in the trouble. He
was little, and he had these big railroad nails they

(06:05):
you know the ones that they're those huge ones, you
know that they would use to put down railroad, and
he was hammering it into the ground and he like
got it caught in between his finger and the nail,
and like his fingers got really flat, right, So he
came home and so he went up to my grandpa
and my dad and was just like, I hurt my finger,

(06:27):
and they were like they like shook his head and
they're like you're fine. And then mo Mom comes home
and they ended up taking him to the hospital.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
He at least had broken fingers. I think he may
have had to have surg Did he have to have surgery?

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I don't know if he had to have surgery, but
he definitely broke his fingers.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Like he he crushed the bone of his fingers.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
It was crazy, and like my grandparents and my and
my dad were like, just put a bandaid on it.
So yeah, like kids, obviously the kids could get hurt
playing with things like this.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
So but he he fine. It seems like he was
in the ICU.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I mean, he's as far as this article is written,
it seems like he was still recovering. But like he's
alive and he doesn't have any major damage all right.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
In South Africa, this man was camping at a luxury
resort with his wife and when he stepped out of
his tent to use a toilet, he was attacked by
a lion and got killed.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
I don't know, Like I never camped, and I always
wonder that. I mean, obviously, if you're camping in the woods,
there's things that live in the woods, right, So if
you're in Africa and these things live in the woods.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Like, is this a surprise? Well, I guess you would
want to hope if you're at like a luxury resort
that they have everything, you know kind of, but but like.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
What they don't have it blocked off. It's this isn't
like Disney World.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well, this is what I'm talking about in alligators and
stuff even get into Disney World. It's not fool proof.
They can because it's nature and that's their home, not
your home. So like they don't care that you're there. Yeah,
I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I mean just think about being camping with your loved
one and seeing them get ripped apart by a lion
must be terrifying because if you've seen how they eat
other animals, it's not pleasant.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
No, And they were saying that others were able to
scare the lion off, but like obviously too late. I
assume their attacks are very quick and they hurt and
they're very painful. Yeah you and.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Like what, like what hospital are they near to get
any kind of treatment, even if it was survivable, Like
it's it's not like being around here and just call
nine on one and having an ambulance show up and
being at the hospital in twenty minutes, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah, like you're in the wilderness. This episode is brought
to you by the Gross Room.

Speaker 3 (08:46):
All right, so this week we did Physician Assistant Suicide
for our high profile death.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I don't know what we're doing next week. That's still
up in the air. We have a couple of things
on the list, but we have a couple of things
on their toes. Yeah, we have a couple of things
on the list, but we're always like, you know, stuff happens,
and then you always want to have the breaking news
for the death. Okay, So we're talking about healthcare workers
and things that they've had to encounter on their job,

(09:11):
like live maggots on patients. It's really disturbing some of
these videos. I titled one of them this is exactly
why I can't be a nurse, because I can't imagine
having a person that has live maggots living on them
and just having to take care of them and having
a smile on my face. Because normally when we get

(09:33):
either obviously a body that's dead with maggots on it
or body parts, leg or some amputation, we're in the
lab by ourself and like the patient can't see us,
and just it's kind of disturbing seeing a parasite on
a person. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
We also have this other interesting video of a guy
who was pulled out of the river and you can
see exactly what happens to a body in that situation,
which is really again disturbing.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Check that out, all that and more. Yeah, head of
it to the grossroom dot com. All right, So we
have another case. It seems like we're having one of
these a month at least, of a person faking in illness. This,
this is so weird. So a thirty year old woman
checked herself into a PA hospital under a fake name,
where she ended up staying for over a month and

(10:21):
racking up a bill of over five hundred and sixty
thousand dollars. So she told the hospital she had sickle
cell anemia and would pay for the services out of pocket,
but they ended up getting suspicious of her after she
had already been staying there for a month, when she
had a test that revealed she did not have sickle
cell anemia.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
This case reminded me of the room what's her name,
Gipsy Rose situation where remember her mom like brought her
to a hospital and was like, my kid has cancer
and they were like given this kid chemotherapy without proving
that the kid actually had cancer.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, so they're trying to argue that she had legitimate
medical documents signed by I thought, like, did she had?
But I'm just kind of like sick cell.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
I feel like sickle cell is something that you could
test with blood tests, And I'm like, if you have
a strange person coming in that says they have all
this stuff, like why wouldn't you just test just to
be like where is this patient at? Because I can't
imagine that her blood work like it was normal, So
I don't understand why that wasn't.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
And I guess like when you're having treatment, it might
normalize or something. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
It just sounds a little weird to me that this
person was getting medications like these hardcore medications that could
be sometimes for sickle cell and wasn't even didn't have
it and nobody knew it for a month.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's a month to me is so long to be
in the hospital.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
It is like it is it's it's dude, if you're
at the hospital for a month, you're like dying.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
That's what I'm talking about. That's a that's an insane
amount of time. I feel like it takes a lot
for them to even keep you overnight alone in an
entire month. So after they got suspicious of her, they
confronted her, She presented them with a fake idea and
then checked herself out of the hospital, and then they
discovered that she had done this at two other hospitals.
But I guess the motive behind this is she was

(12:14):
trying to steal money on GoFundMe. Yes, I try to
get she was trying to get people to feel bad
for her on go fund me to give her money
for her treatment. Why go through with the treatments? Couldn't
use a lot exactly?

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Like who knows what medications she just put in her
body for absolutely no reason, Like like we say this
all the time, like those medications are they're not good,
They're just to help you when you have like sickle
cell is a really terrible disease for people.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
It causes so you know how you have.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Hemoglobin on your blood cells, and your blood cells look
like kind of like little pillows or like cheerios that
are filled in or like these circles with little divots
in them. That's what they're normally supposed to look like,
and they carry hemoglobe into all of your organs all around.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Sickle cell is a hemoglobin disorder, so it makes them.
It's called sickle cell because it makes them look like
a sickle or like like a crescent moon. That's what
the cells look like under the microscope.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
You could see it under the microscope, and those cells
can clump up and cause class and it could be
super painful and you get like so when you have it,
you could get something called a crisis, which is when
this happens and you're having this widespread pain throughout your body.
I don't understand between the symptoms and the microscopic findings
and the blood work, like how they did not know

(13:31):
a patient was present, wasn't presenting like a typical patient
that had something like this.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's what I'm talking about. And then on her end,
it seems completely idiotic to go through and get the
treatments when you could just lie and I don't know,
or go one night. I take, yeah, I would lie.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I would I really like to know what she was
doing because like, something doesn't make sense to me, because
I feel talking about if you get medication for something,
they're gonna your blood work and be like okay, like
how they're not going to be adding things or giving
you additional things when everything looks fine. I just I

(14:09):
don't understand. I hope one of you guys know more
about this case and can tell us about it. But
let's get into the last story of the week here.
This is a good one.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Researchers in Zurich have developed a pad that can analyze
menstrual blood. So this is really cool.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
I think it's a lot of different people are trying
to get onto this technology. So we had an article
last year that was about menstrual blood being used because
a lot of people think, like, okay, women have about
four hundred and fifty periods a year and you're just
like throwing away this blood and maybe we could find

(14:48):
something with this blood. So the article we have from
last year showed that there was these strips you could
put on the pad that would go give you results
through a smartphone, but you had to send these strips
into a laboratory to get results. And mainly that was
monitoring like a one C, which is a super important

(15:08):
thing that you would want to do if you're a.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Pre diabetic or diabetic. It gives you more of a
representation because it's continuously monitoring your blood for seven days
throughout your cycle and stuff. So it's kind of cool
that technology. So now this is only one year later
and they're basically saying that this is menstrual AI and
this one doesn't need to be sent to a lab.

(15:31):
It goes right on the pad and finds the biomarkers
and it shows all different sorts of things like hormone levels, inflammation,
possible reproductive problems. So it has the same kind of
proteins that are found in blood that are taken from
your veins, so they could do all sorts of tests
like checking for ovarian cancer and other tumor markers and

(15:54):
endometriosis and things like that. So it's really cool. I
think it's I mean, it's.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Gross because just period blood just sounds gross, But it's
cool that you could just test somebody just by like
wearing a pad.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, it's kind of like an order ring, but for menstruation.
Yeah exactly. You're just bleeding on it and it's just
continuously taking your info and then you could just open
an app right up on your phone and like look
at what's going on for the day. So yeah, it
definitely is. I think this is a cool invention. I mean,
I obviously want to see a lot more studies and

(16:28):
stuff to make sure it works really well, but I
mean if it could really help people out, that could
be something that's awesome and a huge game changer. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
And this is like, this is one of the things
that I think is a good use of AI. You know, like,
obviously this technology is going to be helpful. Like I
was thinking this last night, Like Gabe has like a
rap I don't know, he was like shave in the
back of his neck or something. He has like a thing,
and he's like, what's back there? And I look and
I'm like, ooh, it's like a little rash. Right, So

(16:58):
I'm looking at it and I'm like, oh, that be
I know that they're working on this because we've talked
about this before, that they're working on some kind of
an app where you could just like scan.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Your rash and find out like what it is or whatever.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Like, didn't we talk about a case like that where
it was like with sexually transmitted infections with penises, they
could like tell you if you have something that needs
to go get checked out or if it's nothing.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, talked about that like you're like a year ago
or whatever. Yeah, And with that, I think it's good
to use as like a screening tool. But you have
to remember those things are like not perfect, and like, yeah,
most of the same thing's gonna happen. The same thing
is gonna happen with the skin rash one.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
And but just think like if this was back in
the day, like obviously, like I have friends who are
a dermato pathologist, so I just sent the picture to
them and was like what is this, you know? But
to Karen, you know, I was like, dude, what is this?
And like whatever, she told me what it was and
it's nothing. But like, what if it's as back in

(17:56):
the day where like you don't even have the Internet
or anything, like you you have to make an appointment
with your doctor and then you're going to go to
your family doctor and they're going to say, oh, it's
a skin thing. I don't know any skin things. I'm
going to send you to dermatology. And then you have
to wait six months to get your appointment with dermatology
and then you go and you get your cream and
handle it. Whereas now it's like how cool would it

(18:18):
be if you could just do the scan and be like, oh,
I could just put cortizona this, or oh I could
just put anti fungal on this or something, and like
treat a lot of these things yourself that are treatable,
you know. But obviously that's going to go terribly wrong
because people are going to be treating like putting steroids
on like cants, cancer and things that they shouldn't be

(18:39):
putting steroids on, you know.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Like it's it'll be a mess. That's what I'm talking about.
Like I understand it, and I think it's cool, but
like you can't use this as like secure all. You
have to take it as like a tool that could
give you some information that if you want, you could
take it a step further and then go see a
doctor if you think something's wrong. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
I think it's cool though, because I think like there's
always been a thing that like people are can't be
in control of taking care of their own health, and
there's like plenty of things that people can go treat
themselves without having to involve a doctor, you know.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
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(19:32):
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