On today’s MKD, we cover the sudden death of Diane Keaton, a patient who sprayed blood on hospital workers, a patient beaten up by their hospital roommate, a surgeon who gave himself a vasectomy, and students who drank from a water tank holding a dead body. We also get into some questions and listener emails!
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about the most up to date information
we have on the death of Diane Keaton. We have
some unusual true crime stories coming out of hospitals, including
a man who intentionally sprayed hospital workers with HIV positive
blood and a patient who beat to death their roommate.
Then we're going to get into an unusual case of
(00:43):
a surgeon who gave himself a vasectomy live on Instagram,
and students who were drinking water from a tank that
had a dead body in it. We'll finish up the
episode with some of your emails and questions. All that
and more. On today's episode, let's get started with kind
of shocking dian Kee and I didn't hear she.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Was sick, right, Well, I saw your story first on
Instagram that said rip k from the Godfather, and I
was like, you know what, you're kind of a boomer.
I don't just kidding, no, I just I was like,
I've just nobody like Kay.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
By the way, I.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
When I think of Diankee and I do not think
of the Godfather I think of something's gotta give, But
we just had different meetings.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
She's k in the Godfather, So that's that's my introduction
to her.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Is that that I didn't trust you, per se. I
just needed to look byself because I was just so
in disbelief that Diankeeton died. I just I was refusing
to accept it. She was only seventy nine years old.
We didn't know anything about her being sick. I was
just completely shocked.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I looked at her as this older person that was
pretty healthy. So yeah, I thought that way too by
looking at her. But I mean, she was seventy nine,
so we're starting to get into you know, the territory
where people die, you know, my favorite old age. But no,
I mean your body starts breaking down as you get old,
so the likelihood of things going wrong are just increased
(02:10):
at that age. And we don't know anything now, so
obviously we'll have an update if we ever hear what
actually happened to her. But apparently some of her friends
hung out with her recently and were surprised with how
extremely thin. She was. Now we know that she battled
bulimia at parts of her life, so I think it's
(02:33):
probably less likely that that was happening, but people have
seen her throughout her life fluctuating and wait. And also
she has a history of skin cancer, so she had
basal cell cancer, it's highly doubtful that that had anything
to do with it. She also had swain mis cell cancer.
Both of these are just from increased sun exposure, possibly
(02:53):
some genetic component as well with skin cancers. But if
she had melanoma, I'd say there's a chance that this
had spread. Squamous oul gets spread too, but it seems
like she got it treated less likely, so we have
no idea. There's like no speculation. We'd have no idea,
so we'll get back to you guys.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, and I would say, I don't know if maybe
she found out earlier this year she was dealing with
an illness or something. She had listed her dream home
for sale in March of this year, which really shocked everybody.
So I don't know if that was just her trying
to make it easier on her kids or something. But
it's really unfortunate, a huge loss.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, I mean, she was cool and all the other
obviously like Woody Allen movies and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
She was super cool, So I saw he was paying
a lot of tributes to him, Like nobody wants to
hear from me, but.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
God, he's he's like Michael Jackson with me. It's just
like I loved Woody Allen so much, and just I
watched these documentaries and it gets in my head the
same with Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Well, after we watched that one with Dylan, I was like.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, no, I know, I know. That one's just so disturbing.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It is very hard to separate the art from the
artists when the crimes are so horrific.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, really, all right, this one is so scary for
people who work in a hospital.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Really. So back in March, this guy was at the
hospital getting treatment for diabetes and he then allegedly removed
his IVY and sprayed h IVY positive blood into the
eyes of two emergency room workers.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And he did this on purpose.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well that's what it's seeming like, and he's just getting
arrested now six months later. Well, I guess he got
arrested a couple of weeks ago, So it was six
months after the crime, and everybody was kind of like,
why would he just be arrested now? The police are
seeming to say that he's been either under medical treatment
or psychiatric treatment this entire time, so that's why it
took so long. But no normal person, in my opinion,
(04:52):
would do something like this, so clearly something was going on.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, I mean, there is a possibility, I guess, and
I don't know the details, that the guy was just
freaking out about having the IV because they are as
much as they say they don't hurt, they feel uncomfortable.
And if he just pulled it out because of that
and it so happened to spray, that would be totally different.
But they seem to think that this was an intentional act,
(05:18):
obviously because they're arresting him now. So the good news
is for these healthcare workers is that the risk of
contracting HIV in that way is so so low, it's
like zero point zero three percent chance. So it's happened,
That's why there is a chance, but it rarely, rarely
(05:40):
ever happens, So that's good news for them, but it's
still scary because there is this small possibility of that happening.
And to hear that, I guess. It was considered a
Class H felony that could face up to thirty nine
months in prison for e count, So that would that
(06:02):
wouldn't be that long if a person did get HIV
and had to deal with that for the rest of
their lives. So at least now there's treatment for HIV
and you could take medications to lighten the viral load
to the point where it's undetected. But it is something
that is a lifelong thing, and I feel like putting
(06:26):
that that negative health, you know, infection on a person
that didn't get it, that's not really a lot of
jail time in my opinion, right, It's it's almost the
same as giving them, you know, going up to someone
and cutting their leg off or something, just giving them
a disability that they have to deal with for the
(06:47):
rest of their life, just because you want to.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, who classifies what's horrible? What's not to deal with?
Because if these people did end up contracting it, it's
something that's the rest of the life, right, it doesn't
go away. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So I know that the treatment, the treatment could be
so good at this point that it's not even detected.
And I'm not sure that the laws have changed from
when HIV was not considered to be even treatable, let
alone curable, and and and now it can be you know,
(07:28):
it's like something that is treatable, right, so it's not
as it's not a death sentence as it once was.
I just there's still you still don't want it. You
don't want it, like that's the bottom line. And if
you don't want it and someone gives it to you
against your will, then they should get in trouble for it. Period.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
That's exactly what I was gonna say. And then the
New York Post was saying it's unclear if the HIV
positive blood belonged to him, Well, hwhere else would it
come from? Well I was thinking that too, because the
first article that we read about it, it said that
the HIV positive blood was sprayed on the nurses or
I don't know if it was a nurse or just
(08:05):
at healthcare workers. It was sprayed in their eyes. But
in that one article that we read, it did not
say that it came from him.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't know where you got. I didn't see that
it came from.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Reporting that he was getting treatment for diabetes and that's
when he ripped out his IV.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't know, and I
don't know if I've never even I mean obviously, Like
I've never given a person an IV before, so I
don't know how they react. But if you just pull
it out like that, I know it bleeds, but can
you squirt it? I don't see how you could squirt
(08:43):
it if it's not in an artery. Well, I don't know,
just like it maybe it's sprays. I don't. I just
don't know. Like, if any of you guys are listening,
what would happen if you just ripped it out, if
you were able to spray someone in the eye.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well that's what I was wondering too. If maybe the
way they meant it was he was in the middle
of an episode, ripped his own IV out and then
got the blood from somewhere else. Yeah, that's not the
way I read it. But I also am in the
same boat as you, Like, if you rip your IV out,
it is just squirting everye this this conversation is maybe
would have passed out.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
No, it can't. I just don't.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I don't see that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It's you think, like, Okay, if you cut someone an
artery in someone's arm, like kill Bill's style, it'll spray
out like that, right, But that's that's not what's happening
when you get an IV put in.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
So but then where is he getting the other blood from?
I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
There's there's a little bit holes in the story. But regardless,
at least at least the chances of them. I mean,
I mean, you don't ever want to get blood into
your eye because it's an irritant. But that's likely the
extent of of the problems for them. There is there
was a case actually, the documented that I found of
(10:00):
a lab worker who got a droplet of a serum
in their eyes. So that's after the blood is separated
and spun down, and it was traced back to a
patient that had HIV in the ICU that they were
working on. So that's how they were able to say
that's how he got the infection. But really the way
(10:22):
that they were able to correlate it was they looked
at the genomic sequence of both the patient and the
ICU and the lab worker and saw that the virus
was the same one. So that's how they were able
to confirm that it did indeed come from that patient. So,
like I said, there are documented cases, but it's just
it's just rare because there's so many more documented cases
(10:46):
of healthcare workers getting blood in their eye and never
getting HIV like that, And obviously there's more cases probably
of people getting semen in their eye, but the tree
transmissions even lower with semen than straight up blood.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Well, what's your protocol if you guys accidentally are exposed
to it in this case, where like when you're doing
autops here in the gross room, like dissecting organs and stuff,
if you accidentally cut yourself with some somebody, that's in
fact we go we.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Go to employee health if it's not that bad. And
I mean so I've had to go to the emergency
room once because I caught myself bad enough that I
needed a couple sutures. But it's all documented in case
something happens because HIV, I believe that there's medications that
you could take for that. But hepatitis C, to me,
(11:40):
is the biggest concern and there's nothing you could do
except monitor and weight and hope that you don't get it.
But it's all documented. So for example, when I cut myself,
of course I was cutting a hepatitis D positive liver,
Like why not be the dirtiest specimen, right, But we
don't change our blades in between every specimen. So that's
(12:02):
where the problem comes in because you're like, all right,
especially with the liver, I used the really big knife, right,
and that has a blade that you could change out.
But if if I only cut one thing with it,
it was pretty sharp, I wouldn't change it. So you
could be like, all right, well I did this liver,
and before that, maybe I did like a uterine vibrate
or something. I don't know, But you try to figure
(12:24):
out every patient that you possibly were exposed to, and
and like the case the problem is it's the case
of the lab worker. That lab worker got the serum
in his eye and didn't develop the infection for a
couple weeks, but then was like, oh this is how
(12:45):
I got it. I remember getting something in my eye,
and and then you have okay, well, that lab worker
probably did X amount of specimens, Like I don't know
if that person wrote down the serum that went in
his eye, because trust me, there's been a lot of
times that will open an ovary and it pops open
and squirts out some fluid. On one of my friends
that was a resident sitting behind me got sprayed in
(13:07):
the face with ovary and it's just like you're in
the middle of a busy workday and stuff. You're not
gonna like stop for a couple hours and go to
employee health like it just we didn't always didn't just drop.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Dead immediately from having that all over.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It's whatever. If you work, if you work in the
labbrado autopsy, you're gonna get body fluids on you. Like
it just happens. It like land on your lip.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
It's gross, but like it is what it is, all right,
let's move on. Last month, this fifty five year old
woman ended up going to a New York hospital for
an underlying condition, and while she was asleep in her room,
her roommate ended up beating her to death.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
This is really terrifying, actually, and what pisses me off
about this is that this person, this woman that beat
up this woman to death, she was in the hospital
two other times before this incident, one time assaulting a nurse,
another time insulting another her healthcare worker, and there wasn't
(14:03):
some kind of like little red check in her chart
that said maybe she shouldn't be alone with people.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, the other healthcare worker that she assaulted was only
hours after she beat this woman to death. So I
was like, was she just freely roaming the hospital for
hours after? Did they not realize it was her that
did it?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I don't know, because like, again, where was she? So
she was a roommate in the hospital. So the other
woman that was fifty five was admitted into the hospital.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
She was admitted into the hospital, and then at three
o'clock in the morning on September tenth, the roommate started
beating her in the head to the point where she
had to be intubated in the ICU, and then she
ended up dying two and a half weeks later. But
later that day she ended up assaulting another hospital worker,
and she had a history of assaulting other hospital workers
(14:57):
in the from previous visits. So I guess my question
is is the hospital liable because did they know she
had this violent history? I put her room if.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
This was let's say, for example, this was like momm
that was in the hospital because of whatever she had,
diary whatever, Right, she's in the hospital and then all
of a sudden, some roommate comes and beats the crap
out of her and kills her. Guess what all this
stuff that's getting released that they knew that this lady
(15:27):
was dangerous and still put her in the room with
my mom. Guess what, I am suing the hospital because
that's bullshit.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
No, totally. I mean a violent person like that.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And this is the thing too that you guys are
probably wondering, like what was she in the hospital for.
We don't know exactly what she was in the hospital for,
but she was fifty five years old. She was in
the hospital. But when they did her autopsy, they said
that her manner of death was homicide and her cause
of death was due to blunt force trauma. So she
died directly. It wasn't like she had a bad heart
(15:58):
and the lady beat her up and then she ended
up having a heart attack. Like, No, she died as
a result of getting her ass kicked. That's how she died.
And yes, it is one hundred percent. I feel like
the hospital is one hundred percent liable for that.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It's not like a.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I mean, people could always this could always happen, But
the fact that there's documented history at this exact hospital too,
they should have that in the chart somewhere.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I mean, don't violent patients like this have to be
restrained and in their own rooms or you would think.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So, I don't know if a person that had it,
like if this person punched a nurse in July, as
soon as they come back in the hospital, you're not
going to be like, oh, I'm I'm putting you in
a straight jacket, Like that's not going to happen. Yeah,
But but there should be like a separation thing, like
this person needs to not be around people.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Listen to the description of this second assault, which was
a couple hours after she beat the roommate. So she
slapped another hospital worker in the face and said, why
are you squeezing my hand so hard? Does that sound
like a mentally sound person to slow? But I think
people can be in really crazy emotional states in the
(17:12):
hospital and maybe like I'm not saying this is right,
I'm just saying I could see how you can maybe
like shove somebody or whatever could happen, And that isn't
the sult.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Every single every single person listening to us right now
is going to email us after this episode to tell
us about how they have been abused by a patient
and just like weird shit that happens when because especially
I mean, take aside the whole entire mental health aspect
of all of this. When you're in the hospital, you're
(17:43):
likely in pain, you're uncomfortable, you don't feel good, you're scared.
There's just like all these other factors that go on
to just being normal. And then if you have an
underlying mental health condition and everybody takes it out on
the The nurses are like any other hospital staff, like
phlebotomus and things like that. The nurse assistants, they're the
(18:05):
ones that get the brunt of all of it.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, I mean it's not fair because they're just they're
doing their job and then people are either like going
in crazy like this person is, or they're going through
an incredibly hard emotional thing and they can't like control
what's going on. Yeah, it's just a really tough place
to be it, it really is. This episode is brought
(18:35):
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Speaker 2 (18:37):
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Speaker 1 (18:44):
It's just so believe it. It's so good.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
When I just started thinking about this, I was just like,
because I've been seeing a couple of videos on the internet,
and I'm like, it just brought back all these memories
of being a teenager and watching them on Williams Show
when I got home from school, and it's just it's outrageous.
And one of the points that I bring up is
(19:08):
like a lot of people didn't know that was going
on because that show was at three o'clock in the afternoon,
and like, who's home at three o'clock in the afternoon,
Except I mean, this is back in nineteen nineties, not
now where people work from home and stuff. It just
was a very specific audience of stay at home moms
usually and teenagers that are watching this so and there
(19:31):
was no Internet for these stories to go viral. So
it's just like it stayed very contained and was allowed
to go on for way too long and hurting a
lot of people in the process. We also have a
really good post on a sex injury that happened with
this guy who was trying to imitate something he saw
in a porno film and it was an epic foul.
(19:54):
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Speaker 2 (20:01):
All right, this is another crazy viral video that happened
of a guy who is a surgeon that gave himself surgery. Yeah,
so a Taiwanese plastic surgeon is going viral after posting
a video performing a visectomy on himself. It's kind of cool, honestly.
So the reason that men get vasectomies over a woman
(20:25):
getting her tubes tied is just or a tuble ligation,
you would say, is it just makes more sense because
for a woman, unless a woman has a baby and
is having a C section and the doctors are already
in there, then they could do the tubule ligation easily.
But if you're just both healthy people and you're like,
(20:47):
you know what, I'm done having kids, it's way easier
for the man to get it because their tube is
outside of their body, so it's not an invasive surgery
as much as it is to do on a woman.
So you're thinking about a guy, they have their balls
in their sack and the vast deference is a tube
that comes from the testicle and it goes and meets
(21:09):
up in the prostate land, So the testicle has the sperm.
The sperm go up this tube into the prostate land
where it mixes with the seminole portion or the fluid
portion of semen, and those two join together and go
out as ejaculate, right, So if you cut off the
(21:30):
transportation system for the sperm to go to the prostate land,
in theory, you should be shooting blanks. Right. It's still
the fluid's still coming out, but there's no sperm in it.
There's lots of problems that could go wrong with that too,
because you've heard of people that have had vassectomies and
somehow there's a sperm in there. But that's that's a
(21:51):
topic for another day. So what happens during the surgery
is that they cut little sections of the vast deference out.
So think of it like a straw if you just
cut out a segment of the middle and they block
off each end, and they do it just putting a
little snip into the testicles and they're able or into
the scrotle sac and they're able to get in there
(22:13):
really easily. So this guy gave himself a local anesthesia
and he did it himself. He had a urologist watching
him do it, so in case he was doing anything
wrong or was unable to finish the procedure that he would,
he would be there to save him. And the best
(22:33):
part of this story is that he did it as
a present to his wife.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It is cool in theory. I just can't imagine, well,
I as a medicophobic person, can't imagine at all performing
any surgeries, but especially on yourself. And I know he
administered a local anesthetic and everything, but just seeing it
on your own body, I just can't possibly fathom doing it.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I feel kind of the same way I saw Gianna
was tattooed yourself the other day, and I'm just like,
I just don't think I would be able to tattoo
myself and just feel the pain like that. But for
this guy, as long as he's able to give himself
the initial injections, and someone could have gave him the
injections as well. If you're numb, you've had things done
(23:18):
like you can't feel it if you're numb. So I
think it's cool. I think the only dangerous part of
it is that he was kind of giving a step
by step of how to do it on yourself. And
you know, there's some crazy person out there that might
try to do something like that and now they have
the instructions on how to do it. So he did
emphasize not to do it on yourself, but you kind
(23:42):
of put the instructions out there.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, so of course you're gonna have one rogue person
that's going to try to do it. But yeah, the
Department of Health reviewed it. They determined that no laws
were broken. I think it was also just in those
really weird legal gray areas. I guess we'll just see
you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'll post this in the grosser room too, because I
think it will be of interest to people.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
All Right, Students at a medical college in India were
horrified to learn that the water they had been drinking
was contaminated with a decomposing body for at least ten days.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I just can't I can't wrap my brain around this.
Oddly enough, this is not the first time that this
has happened, Because do you remember the Eliza Lamb story,
which is also in the gross room. We did a
high profile death dis section on this years ago. Remember
that Cecil Hotel documentary. Yes, so a similar kind of
thing happened. That she was found dead in this water
(24:37):
tank and people in the hotel were complaining that the
water was a funny color and it smelled funny, like
That's what happened in this case too. In a medical school,
they were saying that the water had a foul smell,
and they found a body that was so decomposed in
the water that it was not They weren't able to
(24:58):
identify how who it was, which means that they were
really decomposed and just juicy decomp juice in the water.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
And right now we don't really know how it got there.
So they were saying that the tank was supposed to
be sealed off, and it was, And of course, so
is this the person that went in there and got stuck?
Was it a homicide? What exactly happened? But to think,
you know, you might see your water and it's a
little off and you maybe don't think anything of it,
and then it starts smelling over days and then it
(25:28):
turns out you've been showering and drinking water from a
dead body water tank is probably the most disgusting thing
that could ever happen.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
There's no amount of I mean, the only thing that
really could help it would be to drink bleach, and
that would be that would kill you. So like, I
just don't know, Like, what could you really use as
an antiseptic mouthwash? I would seriously be mouthwashing every day
for like and doing a cleanse I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
It's just for you see for you you.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Think it's gross and you don't you've never seen or
smelled the decomposing body. No, so just and like salt,
the juice that the black and the green juice that
comes out, and the smell of it, and just thinking
about that. I just don't know how you really ever
get that out of your head, although it might be
(26:23):
really good if you're trying to lose weight, because I
can't imagine, and knowing what it was, you know, just
drinking it in general would smell, but knowing it was
from a dead person, like if it was from a
dead rat, it would gross.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Shown animals get in water tanks all the time. I
don't want to know about that, because I've talked about
this on previous episodes. But to think of a whole decomposing.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Huge like a human is yeah, it's just another level
of nasty.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Okay, let's move on to Questions of the day. Every
Friday at that Mother Knows Death Instagram account and on
our YouTube, you guys could ask whatever you want. Also,
I guess new segment additional alert. I don't know the
proper way to phrase it, you guys, are always emailing
us and messaging messaging us your comments on stories from
your professional perspective, your personal stories, So we're gonna start
reading those now on the show.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
We're gonna helt you guys.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
We're gonna help you guys. If you want to remain anonymous,
please say that you want to remain anonymous. Otherwise we're
going to say your first name only. But if you
don't want your name out there, or you think it's
going to be a problem and somebody's gonna trace it
back to you, we will gladly keep it anonymous. And
if you could be helpful, if you're going to tell
detail story, please don't give specific names of the place
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you work at or names of your coworkers or something.
But you guys are always sending in good stuff, so
if we want everybody else to hear it too, all right,
I guess let's start off with the first question. So
what's the ETA on the new book.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Two thousand and twenty seven. We're trying to all right,
fall yes, we're trying well, yeah, early like late, I'm
our early fault. We're trying to release it before crime
con of twenty twenty seven. So that's the goal right now,
it's going to be so good. It is really going
to be so good. You just sent a sample in
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and it looks amazing already.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I'm gonna not say this person's name yet because they
wrote it in and I didn't have a chance to
ask them or not, so I don't want to piss
them off. But they said, Hey, Nicole and Maria, I
think this is the wrong email to be sending this to,
but wanted to respond to your question on the show
from October fourth about the portable X ray machine. I've
been working in radiology for twenty years, and for many
years i've worked the grave shift emergency trauma. These days,
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I only do see T scans, so the scatter radiation
from a portable X ray machine only goes about five
or six feet from the source. However, if someone is
in the next bay in the emergency room, which I
assume is where you were sitting, the tech is supposed
to tell them that they're taking an X ray and
back up, especially if they are women of child bearing age.
(28:59):
Hope this is helpful. Love your show. Okay, guys, So.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Maria was in the next bay, but I was sitting
in a chair across from her bed, and I was
about I would say I was not even two feet
away from the X ray machine that they were using.
Maybe they just looked at me and said, she's definitely
not a child bearing age.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
You were like, little, do you know that my blood tests.
I could still very well have a baby. Yes, exactly,
but I have a little bit of child bearing age.
And I also was certainly not five to six feet
from the moss.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
You weren't, and we that curtain was not doing anything.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
On top of being ugly, it certainly wasn't providing protection.
But if you guys had listened to that episode, you
remember we talked about how I was in the er.
We thought it was weird. They just came right up
to the person in the next little area, just took
it x ray and didn't say anything to us. Yeah,
so thank you for ready to thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yes, and this is thanks for making it worse.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I know. Thanks all right, this is from Chrissy found
out how first cousins could get married in Illinois. For you, No,
you generally cannot marry your first cousin in Illinois. The
law only permits such a marriage if both parties are
fifty or older, or if one party is permanently sterile
as certified by a physician. Marriages between first cousins that
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do not meet these conditions are considered void under Illinois law.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
So all right, So that's what I was going to say,
because my whole thing with that is like, how do
they know that your cousins just don't tell them and
avoid all this. But I guess they're saying if they
find out your marriage is Nolan.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Void doesn't count. I think how they start to find out.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Like the whole thing is like they put these laws
in place and they're not going to do anything.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I think the fifty and over and this sterile is
really interesting, Like so you're allowed to do it if
you can't make children, then we don't care.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, that the only reason they care is because of
the children's situation.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
It's just such an interesting concept.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I mean, I think it's interesting because I'm like, who
do you tell? Okay, Like I found out that my
next door neighbor is married to their first cousin, Like
do I call my local police department and.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Say, like who do you call?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
The whole thing is such bullshit.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
The laws are just like they're just because it's frowned upon,
but nobody actually does anything about it, and nobody would
ever know.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
That's my interesting Well, thank you to Christy and the
other listener for writing in. If you guys want us
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But we don't get half of them, especially on Instagram either.
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and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
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Thanks
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about the most up to date information
we have on the death of Diane Keaton. We have
some unusual true crime stories coming out of hospitals, including
a man who intentionally sprayed hospital workers with HIV positive
blood and a patient who beat to death their roommate.
Then we're going to get into an unusual case of
(00:43):
a surgeon who gave himself a vasectomy live on Instagram,
and students who were drinking water from a tank that
had a dead body in it. We'll finish up the
episode with some of your emails and questions. All that
and more. On today's episode, let's get started with kind
of shocking dian Kee and I didn't hear she.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Was sick, right, Well, I saw your story first on
Instagram that said rip k from the Godfather, and I
was like, you know what, you're kind of a boomer.
I don't just kidding, no, I just I was like,
I've just nobody like Kay.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
By the way, I.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
When I think of Diankee and I do not think
of the Godfather I think of something's gotta give, But
we just had different meetings.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
She's k in the Godfather, So that's that's my introduction
to her.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Is that that I didn't trust you, per se. I
just needed to look byself because I was just so
in disbelief that Diankeeton died. I just I was refusing
to accept it. She was only seventy nine years old.
We didn't know anything about her being sick. I was
just completely shocked.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I looked at her as this older person that was
pretty healthy. So yeah, I thought that way too by
looking at her. But I mean, she was seventy nine,
so we're starting to get into you know, the territory
where people die, you know, my favorite old age. But no,
I mean your body starts breaking down as you get old,
so the likelihood of things going wrong are just increased
(02:10):
at that age. And we don't know anything now, so
obviously we'll have an update if we ever hear what
actually happened to her. But apparently some of her friends
hung out with her recently and were surprised with how
extremely thin. She was. Now we know that she battled
bulimia at parts of her life, so I think it's
(02:33):
probably less likely that that was happening, but people have
seen her throughout her life fluctuating and wait. And also
she has a history of skin cancer, so she had
basal cell cancer, it's highly doubtful that that had anything
to do with it. She also had swain mis cell cancer.
Both of these are just from increased sun exposure, possibly
(02:53):
some genetic component as well with skin cancers. But if
she had melanoma, I'd say there's a chance that this
had spread. Squamous oul gets spread too, but it seems
like she got it treated less likely, so we have
no idea. There's like no speculation. We'd have no idea,
so we'll get back to you guys.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah, and I would say, I don't know if maybe
she found out earlier this year she was dealing with
an illness or something. She had listed her dream home
for sale in March of this year, which really shocked everybody.
So I don't know if that was just her trying
to make it easier on her kids or something. But
it's really unfortunate, a huge loss.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, I mean, she was cool and all the other
obviously like Woody Allen movies and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
She was super cool, So I saw he was paying
a lot of tributes to him, Like nobody wants to
hear from me, but.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
God, he's he's like Michael Jackson with me. It's just
like I loved Woody Allen so much, and just I
watched these documentaries and it gets in my head the
same with Michael Jackson.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Well, after we watched that one with Dylan, I was like.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, no, I know, I know. That one's just so disturbing.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
It is very hard to separate the art from the
artists when the crimes are so horrific.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, really, all right, this one is so scary for
people who work in a hospital.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Really. So back in March, this guy was at the
hospital getting treatment for diabetes and he then allegedly removed
his IVY and sprayed h IVY positive blood into the
eyes of two emergency room workers.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
And he did this on purpose.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well that's what it's seeming like, and he's just getting
arrested now six months later. Well, I guess he got
arrested a couple of weeks ago, So it was six
months after the crime, and everybody was kind of like,
why would he just be arrested now? The police are
seeming to say that he's been either under medical treatment
or psychiatric treatment this entire time, so that's why it
took so long. But no normal person, in my opinion,
(04:52):
would do something like this, so clearly something was going on.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, I mean, there is a possibility, I guess, and
I don't know the details, that the guy was just
freaking out about having the IV because they are as
much as they say they don't hurt, they feel uncomfortable.
And if he just pulled it out because of that
and it so happened to spray, that would be totally different.
But they seem to think that this was an intentional act,
(05:18):
obviously because they're arresting him now. So the good news
is for these healthcare workers is that the risk of
contracting HIV in that way is so so low, it's
like zero point zero three percent chance. So it's happened,
That's why there is a chance, but it rarely, rarely
(05:40):
ever happens, So that's good news for them, but it's
still scary because there is this small possibility of that happening.
And to hear that, I guess. It was considered a
Class H felony that could face up to thirty nine
months in prison for e count, So that would that
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wouldn't be that long if a person did get HIV
and had to deal with that for the rest of
their lives. So at least now there's treatment for HIV
and you could take medications to lighten the viral load
to the point where it's undetected. But it is something
that is a lifelong thing, and I feel like putting
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that that negative health, you know, infection on a person
that didn't get it, that's not really a lot of
jail time in my opinion, right, It's it's almost the
same as giving them, you know, going up to someone
and cutting their leg off or something, just giving them
a disability that they have to deal with for the
(06:47):
rest of their life, just because you want to.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, who classifies what's horrible? What's not to deal with?
Because if these people did end up contracting it, it's
something that's the rest of the life, right, it doesn't
go away. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
So I know that the treatment, the treatment could be
so good at this point that it's not even detected.
And I'm not sure that the laws have changed from
when HIV was not considered to be even treatable, let
alone curable, and and and now it can be you know,
(07:28):
it's like something that is treatable, right, so it's not
as it's not a death sentence as it once was.
I just there's still you still don't want it. You
don't want it, like that's the bottom line. And if
you don't want it and someone gives it to you
against your will, then they should get in trouble for it. Period.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
That's exactly what I was gonna say. And then the
New York Post was saying it's unclear if the HIV
positive blood belonged to him, Well, hwhere else would it
come from? Well I was thinking that too, because the
first article that we read about it, it said that
the HIV positive blood was sprayed on the nurses or
I don't know if it was a nurse or just
(08:05):
at healthcare workers. It was sprayed in their eyes. But
in that one article that we read, it did not
say that it came from him.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't know where you got. I didn't see that
it came from.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Reporting that he was getting treatment for diabetes and that's
when he ripped out his IV.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't know, and I
don't know if I've never even I mean obviously, Like
I've never given a person an IV before, so I
don't know how they react. But if you just pull
it out like that, I know it bleeds, but can
you squirt it? I don't see how you could squirt
(08:43):
it if it's not in an artery. Well, I don't know,
just like it maybe it's sprays. I don't. I just
don't know. Like, if any of you guys are listening,
what would happen if you just ripped it out, if
you were able to spray someone in the eye.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well that's what I was wondering too. If maybe the
way they meant it was he was in the middle
of an episode, ripped his own IV out and then
got the blood from somewhere else. Yeah, that's not the
way I read it. But I also am in the
same boat as you, Like, if you rip your IV out,
it is just squirting everye this this conversation is maybe
would have passed out.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
No, it can't. I just don't.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
I don't see that.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
It's you think, like, Okay, if you cut someone an
artery in someone's arm, like kill Bill's style, it'll spray
out like that, right, But that's that's not what's happening
when you get an IV put in.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
So but then where is he getting the other blood from?
I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
There's there's a little bit holes in the story. But regardless,
at least at least the chances of them. I mean,
I mean, you don't ever want to get blood into
your eye because it's an irritant. But that's likely the
extent of of the problems for them. There is there
was a case actually, the documented that I found of
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a lab worker who got a droplet of a serum
in their eyes. So that's after the blood is separated
and spun down, and it was traced back to a
patient that had HIV in the ICU that they were
working on. So that's how they were able to say
that's how he got the infection. But really the way
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that they were able to correlate it was they looked
at the genomic sequence of both the patient and the
ICU and the lab worker and saw that the virus
was the same one. So that's how they were able
to confirm that it did indeed come from that patient. So,
like I said, there are documented cases, but it's just
it's just rare because there's so many more documented cases
(10:46):
of healthcare workers getting blood in their eye and never
getting HIV like that, And obviously there's more cases probably
of people getting semen in their eye, but the tree
transmissions even lower with semen than straight up blood.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Well, what's your protocol if you guys accidentally are exposed
to it in this case, where like when you're doing
autops here in the gross room, like dissecting organs and stuff,
if you accidentally cut yourself with some somebody, that's in
fact we go we.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Go to employee health if it's not that bad. And
I mean so I've had to go to the emergency
room once because I caught myself bad enough that I
needed a couple sutures. But it's all documented in case
something happens because HIV, I believe that there's medications that
you could take for that. But hepatitis C, to me,
(11:40):
is the biggest concern and there's nothing you could do
except monitor and weight and hope that you don't get it.
But it's all documented. So for example, when I cut myself,
of course I was cutting a hepatitis D positive liver,
Like why not be the dirtiest specimen, right, But we
don't change our blades in between every specimen. So that's
(12:02):
where the problem comes in because you're like, all right,
especially with the liver, I used the really big knife, right,
and that has a blade that you could change out.
But if if I only cut one thing with it,
it was pretty sharp, I wouldn't change it. So you
could be like, all right, well I did this liver,
and before that, maybe I did like a uterine vibrate
or something. I don't know, But you try to figure
(12:24):
out every patient that you possibly were exposed to, and
and like the case the problem is it's the case
of the lab worker. That lab worker got the serum
in his eye and didn't develop the infection for a
couple weeks, but then was like, oh this is how
(12:45):
I got it. I remember getting something in my eye,
and and then you have okay, well, that lab worker
probably did X amount of specimens, Like I don't know
if that person wrote down the serum that went in
his eye, because trust me, there's been a lot of
times that will open an ovary and it pops open
and squirts out some fluid. On one of my friends
that was a resident sitting behind me got sprayed in
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the face with ovary and it's just like you're in
the middle of a busy workday and stuff. You're not
gonna like stop for a couple hours and go to
employee health like it just we didn't always didn't just drop.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Dead immediately from having that all over.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It's whatever. If you work, if you work in the
labbrado autopsy, you're gonna get body fluids on you. Like
it just happens. It like land on your lip.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
It's gross, but like it is what it is, all right,
let's move on. Last month, this fifty five year old
woman ended up going to a New York hospital for
an underlying condition, and while she was asleep in her room,
her roommate ended up beating her to death.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
This is really terrifying, actually, and what pisses me off
about this is that this person, this woman that beat
up this woman to death, she was in the hospital
two other times before this incident, one time assaulting a nurse,
another time insulting another her healthcare worker, and there wasn't
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some kind of like little red check in her chart
that said maybe she shouldn't be alone with people.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Well, the other healthcare worker that she assaulted was only
hours after she beat this woman to death. So I
was like, was she just freely roaming the hospital for
hours after? Did they not realize it was her that
did it?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I don't know, because like, again, where was she? So
she was a roommate in the hospital. So the other
woman that was fifty five was admitted into the hospital.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
She was admitted into the hospital, and then at three
o'clock in the morning on September tenth, the roommate started
beating her in the head to the point where she
had to be intubated in the ICU, and then she
ended up dying two and a half weeks later. But
later that day she ended up assaulting another hospital worker,
and she had a history of assaulting other hospital workers
(14:57):
in the from previous visits. So I guess my question
is is the hospital liable because did they know she
had this violent history? I put her room if.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
This was let's say, for example, this was like momm
that was in the hospital because of whatever she had,
diary whatever, Right, she's in the hospital and then all
of a sudden, some roommate comes and beats the crap
out of her and kills her. Guess what all this
stuff that's getting released that they knew that this lady
(15:27):
was dangerous and still put her in the room with
my mom. Guess what, I am suing the hospital because
that's bullshit.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
No, totally. I mean a violent person like that.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And this is the thing too that you guys are
probably wondering, like what was she in the hospital for.
We don't know exactly what she was in the hospital for,
but she was fifty five years old. She was in
the hospital. But when they did her autopsy, they said
that her manner of death was homicide and her cause
of death was due to blunt force trauma. So she
died directly. It wasn't like she had a bad heart
(15:58):
and the lady beat her up and then she ended
up having a heart attack. Like, No, she died as
a result of getting her ass kicked. That's how she died.
And yes, it is one hundred percent. I feel like
the hospital is one hundred percent liable for that.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It's not like a.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I mean, people could always this could always happen, But
the fact that there's documented history at this exact hospital too,
they should have that in the chart somewhere.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I mean, don't violent patients like this have to be
restrained and in their own rooms or you would think.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So, I don't know if a person that had it,
like if this person punched a nurse in July, as
soon as they come back in the hospital, you're not
going to be like, oh, I'm I'm putting you in
a straight jacket, Like that's not going to happen. Yeah,
But but there should be like a separation thing, like
this person needs to not be around people.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Listen to the description of this second assault, which was
a couple hours after she beat the roommate. So she
slapped another hospital worker in the face and said, why
are you squeezing my hand so hard? Does that sound
like a mentally sound person to slow? But I think
people can be in really crazy emotional states in the
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hospital and maybe like I'm not saying this is right,
I'm just saying I could see how you can maybe
like shove somebody or whatever could happen, And that isn't
the sult.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Every single every single person listening to us right now
is going to email us after this episode to tell
us about how they have been abused by a patient
and just like weird shit that happens when because especially
I mean, take aside the whole entire mental health aspect
of all of this. When you're in the hospital, you're
(17:43):
likely in pain, you're uncomfortable, you don't feel good, you're scared.
There's just like all these other factors that go on
to just being normal. And then if you have an
underlying mental health condition and everybody takes it out on
the The nurses are like any other hospital staff, like
phlebotomus and things like that. The nurse assistants, they're the
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ones that get the brunt of all of it.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, I mean it's not fair because they're just they're
doing their job and then people are either like going
in crazy like this person is, or they're going through
an incredibly hard emotional thing and they can't like control
what's going on. Yeah, it's just a really tough place
to be it, it really is. This episode is brought
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It's just so believe it. It's so good.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
When I just started thinking about this, I was just like,
because I've been seeing a couple of videos on the internet,
and I'm like, it just brought back all these memories
of being a teenager and watching them on Williams Show
when I got home from school, and it's just it's outrageous.
And one of the points that I bring up is
(19:08):
like a lot of people didn't know that was going
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and like, who's home at three o'clock in the afternoon,
Except I mean, this is back in nineteen nineties, not
now where people work from home and stuff. It just
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(19:31):
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Speaker 2 (20:01):
All right, this is another crazy viral video that happened
of a guy who is a surgeon that gave himself surgery. Yeah,
so a Taiwanese plastic surgeon is going viral after posting
a video performing a visectomy on himself. It's kind of cool, honestly.
So the reason that men get vasectomies over a woman
(20:25):
getting her tubes tied is just or a tuble ligation,
you would say, is it just makes more sense because
for a woman, unless a woman has a baby and
is having a C section and the doctors are already
in there, then they could do the tubule ligation easily.
But if you're just both healthy people and you're like,
(20:47):
you know what, I'm done having kids, it's way easier
for the man to get it because their tube is
outside of their body, so it's not an invasive surgery
as much as it is to do on a woman.
So you're thinking about a guy, they have their balls
in their sack and the vast deference is a tube
that comes from the testicle and it goes and meets
(21:09):
up in the prostate land, So the testicle has the sperm.
The sperm go up this tube into the prostate land
where it mixes with the seminole portion or the fluid
portion of semen, and those two join together and go
out as ejaculate, right, So if you cut off the
(21:30):
transportation system for the sperm to go to the prostate land,
in theory, you should be shooting blanks. Right. It's still
the fluid's still coming out, but there's no sperm in it.
There's lots of problems that could go wrong with that too,
because you've heard of people that have had vassectomies and
somehow there's a sperm in there. But that's that's a
(21:51):
topic for another day. So what happens during the surgery
is that they cut little sections of the vast deference out.
So think of it like a straw if you just
cut out a segment of the middle and they block
off each end, and they do it just putting a
little snip into the testicles and they're able or into
the scrotle sac and they're able to get in there
(22:13):
really easily. So this guy gave himself a local anesthesia
and he did it himself. He had a urologist watching
him do it, so in case he was doing anything
wrong or was unable to finish the procedure that he would,
he would be there to save him. And the best
(22:33):
part of this story is that he did it as
a present to his wife.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
It is cool in theory. I just can't imagine, well,
I as a medicophobic person, can't imagine at all performing
any surgeries, but especially on yourself. And I know he
administered a local anesthetic and everything, but just seeing it
on your own body, I just can't possibly fathom doing it.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I feel kind of the same way I saw Gianna
was tattooed yourself the other day, and I'm just like,
I just don't think I would be able to tattoo
myself and just feel the pain like that. But for
this guy, as long as he's able to give himself
the initial injections, and someone could have gave him the
injections as well. If you're numb, you've had things done
(23:18):
like you can't feel it if you're numb. So I
think it's cool. I think the only dangerous part of
it is that he was kind of giving a step
by step of how to do it on yourself. And
you know, there's some crazy person out there that might
try to do something like that and now they have
the instructions on how to do it. So he did
emphasize not to do it on yourself, but you kind
(23:42):
of put the instructions out there.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, so of course you're gonna have one rogue person
that's going to try to do it. But yeah, the
Department of Health reviewed it. They determined that no laws
were broken. I think it was also just in those
really weird legal gray areas. I guess we'll just see
you're gonna.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I'll post this in the grosser room too, because I
think it will be of interest to people.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
All Right, Students at a medical college in India were
horrified to learn that the water they had been drinking
was contaminated with a decomposing body for at least ten days.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I just can't I can't wrap my brain around this.
Oddly enough, this is not the first time that this
has happened, Because do you remember the Eliza Lamb story,
which is also in the gross room. We did a
high profile death dis section on this years ago. Remember
that Cecil Hotel documentary. Yes, so a similar kind of
thing happened. That she was found dead in this water
(24:37):
tank and people in the hotel were complaining that the
water was a funny color and it smelled funny, like
That's what happened in this case too. In a medical school,
they were saying that the water had a foul smell,
and they found a body that was so decomposed in
the water that it was not They weren't able to
(24:58):
identify how who it was, which means that they were
really decomposed and just juicy decomp juice in the water.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
And right now we don't really know how it got there.
So they were saying that the tank was supposed to
be sealed off, and it was, And of course, so
is this the person that went in there and got stuck?
Was it a homicide? What exactly happened? But to think,
you know, you might see your water and it's a
little off and you maybe don't think anything of it,
and then it starts smelling over days and then it
(25:28):
turns out you've been showering and drinking water from a
dead body water tank is probably the most disgusting thing
that could ever happen.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
There's no amount of I mean, the only thing that
really could help it would be to drink bleach, and
that would be that would kill you. So like, I
just don't know, Like, what could you really use as
an antiseptic mouthwash? I would seriously be mouthwashing every day
for like and doing a cleanse I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
It's just for you see for you you.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Think it's gross and you don't you've never seen or
smelled the decomposing body. No, so just and like salt,
the juice that the black and the green juice that
comes out, and the smell of it, and just thinking
about that. I just don't know how you really ever
get that out of your head, although it might be
(26:23):
really good if you're trying to lose weight, because I
can't imagine, and knowing what it was, you know, just
drinking it in general would smell, but knowing it was
from a dead person, like if it was from a
dead rat, it would gross.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Shown animals get in water tanks all the time. I
don't want to know about that, because I've talked about
this on previous episodes. But to think of a whole decomposing.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Huge like a human is yeah, it's just another level
of nasty.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Okay, let's move on to Questions of the day. Every
Friday at that Mother Knows Death Instagram account and on
our YouTube, you guys could ask whatever you want. Also,
I guess new segment additional alert. I don't know the
proper way to phrase it, you guys, are always emailing
us and messaging messaging us your comments on stories from
your professional perspective, your personal stories, So we're gonna start
reading those now on the show.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
We're gonna helt you guys.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
We're gonna help you guys. If you want to remain anonymous,
please say that you want to remain anonymous. Otherwise we're
going to say your first name only. But if you
don't want your name out there, or you think it's
going to be a problem and somebody's gonna trace it
back to you, we will gladly keep it anonymous. And
if you could be helpful, if you're going to tell
detail story, please don't give specific names of the place
(27:37):
you work at or names of your coworkers or something.
But you guys are always sending in good stuff, so
if we want everybody else to hear it too, all right,
I guess let's start off with the first question. So
what's the ETA on the new book.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Two thousand and twenty seven. We're trying to all right,
fall yes, we're trying well, yeah, early like late, I'm
our early fault. We're trying to release it before crime
con of twenty twenty seven. So that's the goal right now,
it's going to be so good. It is really going
to be so good. You just sent a sample in
(28:12):
and it looks amazing already.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
I'm gonna not say this person's name yet because they
wrote it in and I didn't have a chance to
ask them or not, so I don't want to piss
them off. But they said, Hey, Nicole and Maria, I
think this is the wrong email to be sending this to,
but wanted to respond to your question on the show
from October fourth about the portable X ray machine. I've
been working in radiology for twenty years, and for many
years i've worked the grave shift emergency trauma. These days,
(28:39):
I only do see T scans, so the scatter radiation
from a portable X ray machine only goes about five
or six feet from the source. However, if someone is
in the next bay in the emergency room, which I
assume is where you were sitting, the tech is supposed
to tell them that they're taking an X ray and
back up, especially if they are women of child bearing age.
(28:59):
Hope this is helpful. Love your show. Okay, guys, So.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Maria was in the next bay, but I was sitting
in a chair across from her bed, and I was
about I would say I was not even two feet
away from the X ray machine that they were using.
Maybe they just looked at me and said, she's definitely
not a child bearing age.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
You were like, little, do you know that my blood tests.
I could still very well have a baby. Yes, exactly,
but I have a little bit of child bearing age.
And I also was certainly not five to six feet
from the moss.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
You weren't, and we that curtain was not doing anything.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
On top of being ugly, it certainly wasn't providing protection.
But if you guys had listened to that episode, you
remember we talked about how I was in the er.
We thought it was weird. They just came right up
to the person in the next little area, just took
it x ray and didn't say anything to us. Yeah,
so thank you for ready to thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yes, and this is thanks for making it worse.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
I know. Thanks all right, this is from Chrissy found
out how first cousins could get married in Illinois. For you, No,
you generally cannot marry your first cousin in Illinois. The
law only permits such a marriage if both parties are
fifty or older, or if one party is permanently sterile
as certified by a physician. Marriages between first cousins that
(30:20):
do not meet these conditions are considered void under Illinois law.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
So all right, So that's what I was going to say,
because my whole thing with that is like, how do
they know that your cousins just don't tell them and
avoid all this. But I guess they're saying if they
find out your marriage is Nolan.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Void doesn't count. I think how they start to find out.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Like the whole thing is like they put these laws
in place and they're not going to do anything.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I think the fifty and over and this sterile is
really interesting, Like so you're allowed to do it if
you can't make children, then we don't care.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, that the only reason they care is because of
the children's situation.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
It's just such an interesting concept.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I mean, I think it's interesting because I'm like, who
do you tell? Okay, Like I found out that my
next door neighbor is married to their first cousin, Like
do I call my local police department and.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Say, like who do you call?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Right?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
The whole thing is such bullshit.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
The laws are just like they're just because it's frowned upon,
but nobody actually does anything about it, and nobody would
ever know.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
That's my interesting Well, thank you to Christy and the
other listener for writing in. If you guys want us
to read your comments, please email them to us. Don't
submit them on YouTube or Instagram because it's still a
little too hard to monitor to us or for us.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
But we don't get half of them, especially on Instagram either.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
So no, definitely, but you could submit those along with
any you know, questions, comments turns anything to stories at
moothernosdeath dot com. We will see you guys at Darkside,
New Jersey and Edison on Saturday, and please don't forget
to head over to Apple or Spotify, leave us a review,
and subscribe to YouTube.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Say you guys, thank you for listening to Mother nos Death.
As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.
I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without
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the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,
and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform
people based on my experience working in pathology so they
can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.
Always remember that science is changing every day and the
(32:43):
opinions expressed in this episode are based on my knowledge
of those subjects at the time of publication. If you
are having a medical problem, have a medical question, or
having a medical emergency, please contact your physician or visit
an urgent care center, emergency room, or hospital. Please rate, review,
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