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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone walk on The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started
with the story of the day.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
So last week in Canada, this really drunk guy was
in a bar and naturally started getting into fights with
other patrons there, and progressively the fight ended up outside.
And it's Canada, it's wintertime. It's really cold up there.
There was snow, there was ice on the ground, and
I don't know what happened, but at some point this
guy's pants come off, so he's arguing with these people

(00:47):
his pants aren't on, and this next part is up
for debate about how exactly it went down, but at
some point he ends up on the ground and his
penis gets stuck to the ice.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I said this story to Gabe earlier and was like,
I hope you guys never have to deal with this situation.
It's straight up is like reminiscent of a Christmas story
when the kid's tongue is stuck what's his name, Flick.
His tongue is stuck to the pole outside of school
and the fire department has to come up and detach

(01:18):
him from this pole. It's totally possible for skin to
stick to ice. I'm sure that lots of people have
had that happen, just being at your house and taking
ice out of the freezer or something and putting it
into a cup. And what happens is because our skin
has sweat on it, so your hands are sweaty all
the time. But I'm sure that his groin was really
sweaty just because he was in a fight. He was drinking,

(01:40):
his heart rate was accelerated, and he was probably sweating right,
so that you have hydrogen and oxygen inside of your sweat,
and you also have it inside of water, and when
the two come together, it makes this really form like
a strong hydrogen bond, which causes, unfortunately, your skin to
stick to ice. Now this this happens like at your

(02:00):
house or whatever, because when you're at home and your
hands your body temperature's ninety eight degrees, it'll come right
off if you just shake it off. But in this situation,
it was below It was twenty degrees or less outside,
so it was really really cold. It was definitely colder
than a piece of ice you would get from a freezer,
and the bond was really strong, and he was stuck

(02:22):
there to the point where they had to get first responders,
but describe how the bystanders were saying it the scene looked.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
So first, I want to say, there's some debate about
how it got stuck, because some people are saying he
got stuck himself, and then others are saying he got
stuck when the police put him on the ground to
arrest him. So I don't really know. But anyway, like
you're saying, the rescue team had to come and get him,
and they're saying that his penis was basically glued. This

(02:51):
is a quote basically glued to the sidewalk and quote,
trust us, this gentleman's privates are clearly stretched before snapping
right back to the ice.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Oh my god, this is just it just sounds like
they're describing the Christmas Story movie and that rubber tongue
they used as a prop. It doesn't seem real. All
you really have to do is run warmer water over
it to break the bond. It's really just not that difficult.
But I thought bet like a bunch of like macho
firefighters going up there and like seeing this happen, because

(03:22):
you know, guys get really weird when there's like a
dick injury, you know what I mean, And they were
probably like, oh my god, we have to try to
detach this as soon as possible, Like somebody just wasn't
thinking straight. Because I think if they were able to
just go in the bar and be like, hey, can
I get some hot water from the faucet? Not too hot,
you don't want to burn the dude's junk off, but like,
you know, just to break that bond and it would
have came off very nicely and it wouldn't have required

(03:44):
any kind of abrasions or whatever happened from them trying
to remove it that way.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Well, I'm thinking maybe at first it didn't realize he
was stuck and just thought he was being a drunk
mess and wouldn't get up, and then they realize what's
going on. I can't imagine the screams that were coming
from him, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Well, first, so TMZ reported this and there's photos. Is
there a video of it?

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Like, there are photos and videos, but they are blurred out,
so from our medical perspective, we can't see exactly what
was stuck.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Those videos exist somewhere online that are not blurred out,
and I will find.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
It you know, somebody immediately was like, this is so ridiculous,
I have to record, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Exactly, kind of kind of an amazing story.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
How did his pants end up coming off? In general
is what I want to know. Were they fighting and
somebody like grabbed them and pants to him or did
he willingly take them down. I don't really understand exactly
how we got from point A to point B, but.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I think it's possible that he was probably wearing looser
pants and not underwear. And you know what I mean, like,
I don't know some guys wear really loose pants that
I don't know what the hell happened. It's kind of
a hilarious story, honestly. Yeah, Okay, celebrity news. So Cardi
B got her butt crack pierced. How do you feel

(05:01):
about that? Jesus Christ, listen, I'm gonna tell you right now.
As soon as I saw the photo of this, I
was like, she's an idiot, because this is gonna be
a problem for her. It's a surface piercing. You know
what a surface piercing is. It's it doesn't have a
distinct way to go in and out, like your ear
lobe or your nose. Right, So, the underneath of the

(05:22):
piercing that goes through the skin is sitting on top
of a body part like in this case, and they're
the most prone to not heal well. They sometimes they
never heal. If you have a really good immune system,
it's gonna be like foreign body, foreign body, and start
rejecting it. And these things could grow out, they could
get crooked, they could be really red and just always
look nasty. And then on top of that, it's in

(05:44):
her butt crack, which is like harboring bacteria sweat. I
just think the thing's never gonna heal and she's gonna
get a really nasty scar from it, and it's just dumb.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, wouldn't you face issues too from just wiping like well,
you know how heart.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
It would do you wipe all the way up to
the top of your ass crack like not, it's fair. No,
we need to know this, the listeners want to know, Maria,
there shouldn't really be poop anywhere near the top of
your butt crack.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
But yeah, but when you're not teaching how to wipe properly,
apparently not. When when you're wiping, are you really thinking
about like running into an Oh, I'm just saying like
she could get caught. She has long nails most of
the time. I just think she's making it really hard
for her.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, she's she's definitely Like it's just it's just not
a good idea. And you know, the person that's doing
the piercing this is this is of course the typical
celebrity VIP treatment. They should have just been like, this
is not a good idea, like the chances of this
thing healing, and like, I don't think it looks bad.
If you want to have two little diamonds on the
top of your butt crack, go ahead, but like that's

(06:55):
not what I'm concerned about. I'm just like, she's not
going to be happy when she has a pigmented scar
on the top of her butt crack, which is bound
to happen, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, it just it kind of just seems like totally unnecessary,
you know. And we're like people that have piercings and everything.
It's just this particular location is very odd.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, and this like we have the piercing on our face,
but there's it's it's just the same as having an
ear piercing. It's like there's a clear in there's a
clear out and they don't really give you problems for years.
I've had mine for like however many years, you know
what I mean. But those ones, it's like an eyebrow
piercing or something like that. It's just like they always

(07:34):
kind of get angry. Some people have them and have
no problems, but I feel like the majority of my
life I've always seen people with issues. And what's I mean,
A piercing is fine, but what is really nasty is
to look at someone with a piercing that's like all
red and angry. Right, it just looks gross.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Well, yeah, it's just gross and then like puss starts
coming out of it and it's just disgusting, all right.
Tech founder an anti aging advocate Brian is getting slammed
after posting data about his teen sons nighttime erections. Do
you know about this dude? Not really. I know that
he made money. I think he sold his banking system

(08:12):
to PayPal and that's how he ended up becoming a billionaire.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, so I don't. I never had heard of him.
And then one day Gabe came out to me and
was like, yo, I just heard this crazy interview with
this guy that thinks that he could reverse aging. And
he was telling me about how he's really independently wealthy
and he just does these insane regimens. This is some
of the things that he does. So he gets up

(08:36):
very early every single morning at five o'clock, and he exercises,
He does four to five hours a day of concentrated
thought whatever that is, takes supplements, his vegan, he does
blood transfusions, tests himself daily, and he thinks that he
can reverse age himself and just stop the aging process.

(08:57):
And he's been very controversial because a lot of people
are listening to what the guy has to say because
he he does have some points and he's been doing
a lot of research and stuff on it. But other
people are just like, and this was my impression when
Gabe told me. I was just like, yeah, but like,
what if you have shitty jeans, it doesn't matter. And
that's what a lot of experts are saying that a

(09:18):
lot of just being able to live a long, healthy
life is based on genetics. So most of my grandparents
lived very old age. So if I just kind of
like take care of myself semi decently, I'm probably going
to live to an old age too. It's just like,
that's kind of how life works. But so they're saying
that there's not really a way to control that one

(09:39):
hundred percent, which I kind of agree with to an
extent as well. But he was so he's trying to
get his son on board with this. Who's how old
is he? Like nineteen, so he's not a minor, So
I guess that's good that he's not still in at
his genus. Yeah, but he posted stats and was just like, oh,
my son, this is my son's a score from the

(10:00):
middle of the night, and he had this many erections
that lasted this long during the night, and like, Okay,
everybody knows that that happens to dudes, but it's just
weird that he was comparing his erection results to his
son's erection results. But the comment underneath one of the
comments was so funny, and let me tell you what
it was. So someone put a comment that put, I

(10:22):
have a feeling this won't even crack the top ten
most disturbing chapters in your Son's Inevitable Autobiography.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
I was like, this is amazing.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Wait, you're totally like passing by the weird caption. He
wrote too, which was saying his duration is two minutes
longer than mine. Raise children to stand tall, be firm,
and be upright. What is wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (10:45):
I don't know. This guy's like on another level. And
wait when when Gabe was telling me about him, I
just I just was like, whoa this guy. This guy's
like out of his fricking mind. He's outrageous. But he
has the money to to kind of really look into
this and research it, so it is it is interesting
to me. I don't want to just like write them

(11:06):
off as being a quack and not listen because a
lot of people over the time of history that have
seemed like they were quacks or actually saying things that
are useful to our health, you know what I mean.
But I just think, no matter what, like you shouldn't
be talking about your son's erection on social media. No
it ain't or really ever. I mean, like it's kind

(11:27):
of weird.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Him going through all this stuff. What you're saying, waking
up at five am, doing his hour of exercise, four
to five hours of concentrated thought, taking one hundred supplements,
being vegan, getting blood transfusions, daily health tests. That seems
like a horrible quality of life. And I don't remember where.
I just heard this recently in some book I was
reading or a podcast or whatever, and they were just like, really,

(11:50):
we have one life and it is about balance, but
you should be enjoying that life, not working as hard
as you can to like, you know, try to live
longer when you're not even living your current life whatever.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I mean, your Yeah, but that's his choice. If he
wants to do that, that's fine. It's just it's funny
because I think that there's sometimes there's these people that
put all of this pressure on their legacy, Like if
this dude doesn't live to be one hundred and ten
years old, he's gonna look like his whole life was
for nothing. Yeah, you know what I mean. And you

(12:25):
see that. I remember when when I was a teenager,
there was this guy on the radio that would always
talk about health stuff and I was like listening to him,
and I'm like, yeah, maybe he's got He was he
was a physician and he was talking about healthier ways
of living and stuff, and then he dropped dead when
he was very young, and I was like, what the fuck?
Like that, you know what I mean, Like you're listening

(12:45):
to somebody for health advice like that, and then all
of a sudden they drop dead at a young age.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
You know, Yeah, I don't know. Maybe he's right.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Maybe maybe he'll be the first person to live to
be one hundred and thirty and still look like he's
eighteen years old or something. I don't freaking know.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Well, time will tell.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
We'll get back to you, come back to you in
approxicately seventy years and see exactly where he's at. We're
gonna be like old Grandma's and he's just gonna look
like a young stealth boy.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
So the podcast is going to be like years done,
like we're gonna be, We're gonna be decades past the
run of the show and be like we had to
do an emergency episode to update you about the guy
we talked about back.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
But we'll come out of retirement for that. Okay, Let's
get on to freak accidents, all right.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
In Ohio, this forty three year old woman went to
let her dog out in her snowy backyard. So I
guess at some point she slipped and fell and she
wasn't able to get up. She was wearing really thin
pajamas because as we can assume she probably just thought
she was letting the dog out to go to the
bathroom or run around, and it was really cold outside.
So unfortunately, because of all those factors, she ended up

(13:51):
freezing to death.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
It's funny because every time I see my neighbors outside
when it's snowing or it's raining, and I see them
walking their dog, I'm like, Okay, this is number one
hundred and one reason why I would never have a dog,
because I just wouldn't want to go outside and walk
them unless it was like seventy degrees and sunny, you
know what I mean. But you have to let your
dog outside. You have to do it. So she was

(14:15):
probably like, fine, let's do it for a second, and
just barely put anything on to go outside. And she
was so she's young, healthy, forty three year old lady
goes outside and felt it's just like, it's such a
nightmare that this happened. Like she didn't have her phone
in her pocket. If she did, this won't even be
an issue. She fell and hurt herself so bad that

(14:36):
she couldn't get up and was stuck there in the
like late at night, in the cold. It was what
was the degrees now I think it was yeah, mid
to low twenties.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Yeah, then she wasn't found until eleven am the next day.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, But I mean think about that, like, even I
live in a very populated neighborhood. Our houses are very
close together and stuff. But if I just went out
back and nobody was home, I mean, nobody would know
that I was back there, you know what I mean.
So I guess they did an autopsy or something, and
they figured out that she had injuries that she sustained

(15:10):
the fall, and that's why she was immobilized in that area.
But what happens is she had hypothermia, which is when
your body temperature goes below ninety five degrees and that's
when your body is losing heat faster than it could
produce heat, and it could cause multi system organ failure
and central nervous failure, system failure, and that's how she

(15:31):
ended up dying there. And some of the ways that
your body could lose heat really fast is from not
wearing the prepper clothes outside and having your body covered
and being in direct contact with the ice is further
just taking heat away from our body. So it really
sucks because she probably was conscious it doesn't seem like

(15:53):
she had an injury that made her unconscious laying there.
It just seems like she was immobilized. Just terrible.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
They don't suspect any foul play, and they were saying
that her injuries were consistent was struggling and crawling on
the snow and the ice covered part of the yard,
So it seems like she fell and was trying to
actively get.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Up and just put it so heartbreaking, it really is.
I think this way though. Sometimes if I'm getting ready
to even bring the kids to school, I always just
make sure that I'm properly dressed for the weather, because
in my house right now, I would walk around wearing
like my flip flops or something like that, or slippers
or something. But I always think, like, what if I
got in an accident or something and I was in

(16:34):
a situation where I had to get out of my car,
you know, then I want to make sure that I'm
I'm in it, I'm properly dressed. And I mean, I
guess that's how you have to think too, with your dog,
at least, like put your phone in your pocket, you
know what I mean, Because you hear stories like that
sometimes too of people falling down the steps and not
having a way to call somebody, and they had an

(16:56):
injury that was totally not life threatening. And it's just sad.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, all right. At University of Colorado, Colorado Springs, they
were hosting a track event for high school athletes. So
in this event, the students through hammers, which are you
familiar with what those are? Yeah, so I was kind
of confused when I was first reading the story. But
in this sport of track and field, they have hammers,
which are these really heavy metal balls that are attached

(17:21):
to chains and they get thrown. So during the competition,
one of the athletes through one of them somehow cleared
the barrier and hit a spectator in the crowd, which
was the father of another competitor.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
These balls weighed twelve pounds and they said at a
high schooler's level of activity, they could throw it anywhere
from fifty five to sixty seven miles an hour. Like
think about that, I know, And it's really sad because
that's like outrageous. That would definitely kill a person, you
know what I mean if it hit especially if it
hit them in the right spot.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, And I was reading that this guy was trying
to protect his wife and son in the crowd from ball,
and he ended up getting hit and then when the
fire department arrived, he was pronounced dead on the scene already.
So it's just really hard.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
This is not the first time this has happened.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
No, but it is. It's not the first time it's happened,
but it's still pretty rare that this happens.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
I don't know, I just, I mean, whatever, You're not
gonna tell people to stop playing a sport that's probably
hundreds of years old. This looks like some kind of
Roman Empire sport or something like that. It just seems
kind of outrageous that there's people sitting in an audience
where you're doing something like this. I guess it could
happen with a lot of different sports, like javelins and

(18:37):
stuff like that, that you could just throw them and
they could go haywire.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Well, I do think they had protective measures in place,
but just somehow this was like a freak. He just
I don't know what happened. The athlete just let go
of it the wrong way or miscalculated where it was going,
and it cleared the barrier and just happened to hit
the guy. Because I think in most cases they have
either netting or something up that would prevent it from
going through.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Could you imagine being the kid that killed your your
teammate's father, No, I can't. I mean, and it was
completely not intentional whatsoever, just an accident, But that kid's
just gonna feel terrible for the rest of his life
because of this. It's just I mean, that's why it's
in this category freak accidents, because it's something like you

(19:22):
were saying, like it rarely happens, but it does happen.
I mean, people get injured in sports all the time,
you know.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, And I just imagine if you're a high school student,
you know, there's always like those dickhead kids that I'll
just be whispering about you in the hallway and stuff.
So I feel like this will probably get be difficult
emotionally to get over, and then you have to live
with that too. Even though you didn't do it on purpose,
it's still not easy to get over just because you
didn't mean to do it.

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Speaker 1 (20:48):
All right, awesome, Okay, let's get into true crime.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
All right, So another case out of Colorado. A crime
lab analyst has been charged with more than one hundred
criminal accounts due to allegations of her altering sexual assault
case reports. The first thing that's reminded me of was
I don't know if you watched it, but Netflix had
put out this show a couple of years ago. It
was called How to Fix a Drug Scandal, and it
covered these two lab people that worked in drug labs,

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and one of the women ended up doing the drugs
that were getting submitted for cases to be tested to
see if they were like actually cocaine or meth or whatever.
And then another one of the analysts was rushing reports,
falsifying data to get as many done as possible, and
that kind of seems what is happening in this case?

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, So it said that she was altering and deleting
quantification values, rerunning batches of DNA without documentation, and hiding
potential contaminations, submitted reports that said that there was no
mal DNA found, even though they were able to retest
it and find out that three of these or thirty
of these cases, which were sexual assault cases by the way,

(21:57):
did have DNA found in them from mal DNA or
there was contamination presence. So contamination in a DNA specimen
would be that there was other DNA present in there
that they weren't testing for So that's the kind of
things that you would re look at a case that would,
in her situation, would cause her to do more work.

(22:17):
And this lady just wanted to check off the box
and say she finished a case, so instead of doing
extra work, she just fudged the results so she didn't
have to do extra work. Like, how fucked up is that?
Sexual assault cases?

Speaker 2 (22:31):
She You know, they're saying in this Affidavid that her
inaccurate reports affected over five hundred cases beginning in two
thousand and eight. But she started working with the Colorado
Bureau of Investigation in nineteen ninety four, So how did
they not know everything she worked on in between nineteen
ninety four to two thousand and eight wasn't altered as
well unless she didn't have that job.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
I don't know what her qualifications were. It said that
she was a crime lab analysis person, Like it doesn't
say if she what kind of a scientist she was
or what she was doing. I mean she has to
be if she's having access to those specimens. I'm assuming,
So I don't know. It's just listen, like, unfortunately I

(23:13):
try to tell my kids this, I tell you this,
Gabe and I talk about this. We have two separate careers.
It's just like it doesn't matter where you work, You're
always going to have people that cut corners and that
are lazy, and like, it doesn't matter how important the
job is. It's just that's life.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
But how do you not realize the consequences of this.
It's like these people that were sexually assaulted are waiting
on these results to either have litigation or get somebody
arrested or you know, put these monsters in jail that
are attacking them. And then you come back because you
don't feel like doing extra work that day, and you're
just like, yeah, I didn't see any DNA on the clothes.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
I mean, it's just because people don't aren't emotionally invested
like that. Sometimes, you know, it's just like it's all
about my life. Whatever is about my life. I don't
really it's like a disconnect. It's just like the same
as working at the grocery store, where there's no connection
that there's any kind of you know, there's a patient
attached to that, or there's a victim attached to that.

(24:08):
That's what's happening right now. It's just a this is
just a job, you know what I mean, it's not
and a lot a lot of people have that. There's
a disconnect, like I work here, I'm not emotionally invested
to this place, you know, I just go I work
and I leave and I go home and live my
life and not caring. And you know when you have

(24:29):
other jobs that might not matter as much. If you
cut corners or you don't stock a shelf or whatever.
It's like, yeah, it's not what the owner of the
store wanted, but you didn't. You didn't do it. And
a life isn't at stake here, or the quality of
someone like life isn't at stake.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
But well, another thing that really bothers me about this
is she was basically found out because they put this
intern on this paperwork and they were like, why don't
you review these and see if you see anything like
out of place? And I don't know if that was
intended to be a lart the experience or her trying
to figure out how they do things there, but she
realized that some of the reports were missing data or

(25:06):
had altered data, so she brought the I'm assuming this
intern is a she This in turn brought this information
to the lab management, and when they started looking further
into it, they realized that this woman that has been
charged had a lot of reports with these errors on them,
and then they put her on I guess a leave,
and then she ended up retiring willingly in twenty twenty three.

(25:28):
But she had also been put on leave in twenty
eighteen over concerns of the same thing. So they had
investigated her for this five years prior, and I'm wondering
why they let that go. Yeah, I was wondering that
to so she's charged now. So she's charged now. Her
charges are fifty two counts of forgery, forty eight counts
of attempt to influence a public servant, one count of

(25:50):
first degree perjury, and one count of cyber crime. I'm
really interested for that breakdown of all those, and you know,
I think she's in jail right now pending litigation. I'm
curious to see how that's gonna pan out. I just
think we need to learn this lesson that cutting corners,
especially when you have a job as important of this
is just completely honest.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
She did admit that. When she was questioned, she basically
was like, I'm lazy, Like that's I mean, like all
of this because you're lazy. It's just outrageous.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, oh she You know what else she told an
investigators She said before two before or around twenty seventeen
or twenty eighteen, so this is around the time she's
first investigated for this. She said that contamination was more
accepted and that ooper time became less acceptable. I think
anybody working in a lab could agree that's not acceptable.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Well I don't really, I don't know. I don't want
to ever say anything about DNA testing because I did
it once in school and it, honestly like it bored
the shit out of me, and I was like, I
don't have any interest in going to school and learning
about this. So I don't know what they do when
they show up to work on a day to day basis,
and like what has changed from twenty five or thirty

(27:01):
years ago to what is acceptable now? Like I just
really have no idea. So I can't say if if
it was or it wasn't. But this lady sucks. That's
all I could say right now. Is just like, you
can't have a job where you're in charge of you're
basically being a detective of some sort, whether it's to
investigate an illness or to investigate a crime, and you

(27:24):
have to be when you have a job of that responsibility,
you have to be willing to go the extra mile
on every single case until you get the answer.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Well, not only this, but now it's going to cost
millions of dollars to retest all of these kits and
everything that we're sent in. So you're like wasting tax
payer money. And I feel horrible for these victims that
have gone through this because you know, not only as
you're not getting the justice you deserve, but some people
could take this and think you're a liar, making something up,
and then you have to live with that.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Well, you know what, the good part about this is
that there's probably a high probability that they are going
to find the people that were that assaulted these women
and or men I don't know, but that were committing
these crimes now that they're going to retest it, and
at least these people now could get some piece that

(28:13):
maybe these people will get arrested and put in jowl
like they should be, you know what I mean. Well,
I wonder in how many of I don't know if
we'll ever see this information, but I'm curious how many
people were not put away for these samples that she
was testing then ended up being repeat offenders afterwards because
they never got in trouble for it. Yeah, well that

(28:34):
a similar case, kind of a similar kind of situation
happened with that Eliza Fletcher lady. Remember we were about
her a year or two ago. Was that a year
or two ago? I believe. Well, she so she was murdered,
raped and murdered by a person that had committed a
sex offense I think almost the whole entire year prior.

(28:58):
But there was a backlaw in the lab and his
sample just hadn't been tested yet. So if that was
actually tested, then he would have been convicted of that
or at least, you know, arrested and whatever they do,
put on trial for that, and then he may not
have had access to that woman that he ended up

(29:18):
raping and killing. So it's not it's not the same,
but it's kind of the same in the sense that
they're I'm sure that these people are like usually just
don't rape somebody and like go away. Yeah, if you're
a violent you know, if you're a do violent attacks
like that.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
So well, this is my argument all the time about
pedophiles and sex offenders just getting such light sentences because
it's something that pretty much a majority not I would
argue that almost every single sex offender is a repeat offender.
There's no way you just do it one time and
that's that. So I think it's ridiculous to send somebody

(29:55):
jail for only five years for raping somebody, so you've
ruined their whole life, but you just get to come
out and just keep doing it all over again.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, I mean, that's the way our systems set up now. Unfortunately,
it's terrible.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, all right, So on Sunday, the Eagles won the
NFC championship, and if you are not aware of celebration
happenings in the Philadelphia area, it's pretty intense anytime something
like this happens.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
So after wait, let me tell them about the video.
I I am not an Eagles fan even a little bit,
and I could really care less. I'm sorry to say,
I just don't not it's not the team, the Eagles.
I just don't care about football. So I'm kind of
like here, my husband watched the game. You guys watch
a game whatever, and every single other person that lives
in Philadelphia apparently except me. Right, But I'm scrolling on

(30:41):
Instagram and I come across this video from this really
great Instagram account. What what is that Instagram account called?
They cover a lot of different things for Philly. It's like,
what the fuck's going on in Philly?

Speaker 2 (30:52):
So they have a podcast too, and they just post
the best.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
Philly yeah, like all of Like I see their videos
all the time and I think that it's great. So
there's it's just like meanwhile in Philly and it's like
a scept it's accept a train. So it's a subway train,
just like you would see in Manhattan, and people literally
have a pig, like a pig roast, a full pig
roast from Espositos probably yeah, on on the train and

(31:20):
they're like they're eating it like it's a lu al,
like in the middle of a shopping car, out of
a shopping cart on the train in Philadelphia, Like this
is like actually happening.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
You're really not even giving this justice. This man has
an acme shopping cart with a fire under on the
bottom of the shopping cart with the pig roasting on
top of it in the shopping cart.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
It's so outrageous, so that's that just sums up like
Philadelphia right right there.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah, so we have we have two instances that happened.
But the more notable one at first is that after
any of our sports teams win huge games like this,
people just fill up Broadstreet, which if you've never been
to Philadelphia, it's the central street in the city. It
runs directly in the middle. Our city Hall intersects it.
At some point, it gets absolutely chaotic, and so it's

(32:08):
safe to say thousands and thousands, thousands of thousands of
people on this street after the game. And of course
with this, because of the way this street is designed,
it's nearly impossible to get on the other side of
the city if all these people are on Broad Street,
because it literally divides our center city. So at some point,
this car, I guess, tries to drive across this across

(32:31):
Broad Street, but where was it on Spring Garden so
it was north of City Hall and hits a bunch
of people. Luckily, nobody has serious injuries, but a couple
of people have fractures from it. But then the car
just drives.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Like a fracture fucking sucks. Yeah, So, like I know
that nobody's dead and on life support, but like they
could be have to get surgery and shit on their legs.
I mean, it's you know, just because why was it.
Was she trying to hurt people?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
No, So I think unlike New Orleans, this was not intentional.
I think she was just genuinely trying to like get
out of the area and just wasn't being patient and
just charged through thinking people would move out of the
way and they didn't. But I think the crime in
this whole situation lies in the fact that she struck
all these pedestrians and then sped off out of the scene.

(33:19):
So it's totally a hit and run situation. I mean,
they ended up finding the car later. They now know
who the driver is, and she's been charged with a
bunch of stuff, you know, aggravated assault, driving without a license,
reckless driving.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
You know, it's you know, it's hilarious, not hilarious. But
so Gabe said the Eagles might win the Super Bowl,
I might have to go to the parade, and I
was like, you're not goings So I said to him,
I was like, you're not going to the parade, And
but I don't ever tell him what to do. I
was just kind of fucking with him. I don't care
if he goes or whatever. But and he goes, We're

(33:53):
having this like banter back and forth. Don't tell me
what to do, like blah blah blah, like all this
stuff right, and I'm just like, no, Like somebody's gonna
drive their car into a crowd of people. I said
it five minutes before this got reported. I was just like,
you're just asking for trouble these days with the way
shit is. Having all those people together, and it was
it was kind of good for my argument because he

(34:15):
felt as if he won the argument. And then I
saw that story pop up and I was like, see,
this is why.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I told you.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I don't think you should go to that pariod. But
anyway that, there's like a lot of shit that happened
that day. Actually, the cops arrested someone for stabbing someone.
Someone was shooting a gun in the air and excitement.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Outrageous videos of his face everywhere shooting the gear.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
There was a guy on Broad Street that had this
I don't even know what this weapon or tool was.
It was kind of like a gun that had three big,
huge barrels that fireworks were getting shot out of. I
don't even know what it was. I'm like, what is
happening in the world.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
I think it's also important to know with this car story,
that this celebration is not necessarily sanctioned by this so
there are no barriers or anything blocking the streets. The
people just straight up fill the streets up, and if
you happen to be driving, it's really difficult to get around.
Well don't you think though, that the city of Philadelphia,
since this happens every single time, that they would be like, hey,

(35:16):
maybe we should.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Be set up for something like this because we know
that thousands of people are going to be flocking the
Broad Street. And weren't they winning by like a lot,
Like it was obvious they were going to win for
a while, I feel like not necessarily like the middle
I don't even understand. I don't understand how football works,
but regardless, like you know, they're playing a big game,
and just how about like what if they win? What

(35:38):
are we going to do? Let's be prepared.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Well, another thing they really didn't prepare for, which they
typically do, which I was surprised about, is I don't
know if this is a unique thing to Philadelphia, but
Philadelphians love climbing poles. So typically when these big games
are coming up, in the event that they might win,
they will literally grease all of the light poles and
everything in the city so they didn't climb up them.

(36:01):
And you could get t shirts that say grease the poles.
That's like a thing in Philly for whatever reason. Well,
and it is, you know people, the grease doesn't necessarily
deter people, and the Italians are kind of grease. They
used well the Italian Market Festival. I feel like it's
like Crisco. I'm not even joking.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
I think that's like the city has this stocked in
their with like the salt for the highway and stuff.
When it snows, they literally have something that they put
like a paint roller in and they grease all the poles.
And this is a point of pride with a lot
of people in Philly because the Italian Market Festival that
happens every year has a greased pole climbing contest.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
I don't know if you've ever seen it.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yes, I have.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
You have to climb up this giant grease pole. And
I I heard there's like rumors there's like cash on
the top of the pole or something. So if you
could get all the way up there, then you, oh,
I might try it this summer then, but there's always
like salamis and whatever hanging off of it. Anyway, I
saw as of Saturday night, barstool Sports posted that the
poles had not been greased as of eleven pm, which
again the city not preparing. I was surprised by. So

(37:03):
of course, because of this, people were able to climb
the poles way easier than ever. And this eighteen year
old climbed up one, fell and sustained a brain injury
and now is on life support.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
So I saw, and I don't know if this is
the same guy. I hope and assuming it is, I
saw that a guy climbed up a pole and fell,
and it was a big fall. I saw the video
of it, and there was a whole crowd of people
underneath of them, and I was hoping that someone was
going to try to brace the guy's fall. But at

(37:34):
the same time, when someone's falling from that high up, like,
I don't really want their big body falling on my
body either, you know what I mean? Like yeah, and
so yeah, I mean it's a huge fall that you
could see the video of it. I'm actually gonna look
for that video now, and because I'm certain it's that,
because any person that would fall from that high up

(37:55):
on the street, that's what happened. I mean you could
see it happening.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Well, when I saw the mayor is just saying please
don't climb the poles, and I don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
The mayor that spelled Eagles wrong.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, so we we have this chance.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
You know, E A. G.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
L Ees Eagles and she literally during a press conference
spelled it wrong. What did she say, E L. G.
L Ees Eagles. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
And then so then that one company that makes Philly
sports t shirts, they put out a T shirt within
five minutes that had the name spelled wrong.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Every every single person though that makes art made it.
Every bakery in the city had.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
It all the great.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah, it's kind of a joke like, okay, don't climb
the poles. Well, you know this happens because it's happened
for decades. So yeah, why didn't you prepare for it
as the mayor? That should be your question because this
is the first time in my remembrance that they have
not greasa poles. When the Phillies were doing good, the
Flyers haven't done good. In fifty years. But the Eagles

(38:56):
have gone to the super Bowl. Now this is their
third time and the last like what eight years or so,
so we know this happens. It's not a surprise, it's
this is typical government. It's react, not pro act, Like
that's that's their logo, right, they don't do anything until
the thing happens and then, which is crazy because this

(39:19):
happens all the time. Like they want to save money
on because apparently like they couldn't afford the five courts
of Crisco this year, right, so they wanted to save
money on that and the labor to put it on
the polls. But now they're gonna have the guy somehow.
They're going to sue the city and like settle even
though it's totally the guy's fault, but something will happen

(39:39):
that the city ends up paying money for that for
some reason. Well she better learn her lesson because not
to be a jinks or anything, but if they do
end up winning, it's only going to be so much
worse because this was just them getting into the super Bowl.
Now them winning the super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
So you have to see the video of this shot
of broad Street, like it's just outrage. I CA.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I believe it's all the way to South Philly like it.
It's crazy. When I lived there, well, I lived there
the first year they won the Super Bowl in twenty eighteen,
and we immediately went after the game. It was crazy,
and people are out all night. It's not like people
go for five minutes. They're out for hours. And it
goes from north. I guess I was surprised people were

(40:22):
as far up as Spring Garden. I just think I
assumed everybody stopped at City Hall, but it goes from
the stadiums all the way up there.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Really far up?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, for I mean, for it's really that far.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Maybe what is it past city Hall? Like four blocks
or four big city blocks, five whatever it is, it's
not really that far, but that it's huge amount for
people to be packed that far north off of City
Hall like that.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
But I wonder how far they go up if they
go up to like Temple or something, because I really
think people do.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Oh my god, all right, let's stop talking about football
all right.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
Over the summer in UK, this guy said he his
wife and his fourteen year old were all messing around
in the kitchen one night. He admittedly had four glasses
of wine and said he was shocked when he threw
a pair of quote, tongues at his teen daughter and
then all of a sudden, she stopped breathing. He was
high too, on marijuana, so just he was so he
was messed up. He essentially drank a bottle of wine

(41:21):
and was high and was high and.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Said that he was playfully playing in the kitchen and
threw tongues at the daughter, but then she ended up
going down stop breathing, and they called emergency services and
she was dead dead.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah, And it wasn't tongues, it was a knife.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah, So I don't know how you even mistake tongues
for a knife anyway, But this happened. This, This isn't new.
This happened a while ago, because now we're talking about
he got convicted, right.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Yeah, so he was just in court for this, you know,
And he said there was no knife in the equation.
I was just throwing a pair of tongs as far
as I was aware. But if you were, you know,
how where could you be when you've drank an entire
bottle of wine in your own drugs, when you're throwing something.
I don't understand why you're throwing any kitchen utensils at
any of your family members.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
So this was the debate during the trial, which was okay.
So let's say we take him at his word, and
he thought he was throwing tongs accidentally picked up a
knife and threw it. It's just it's just weird. But
let's just say that's what happened. It was so cool
because the medical examiner or the forensic pathologist testified that, like,

(42:33):
there's no way that that story was plausible. So think
about this. If you had if you had a knife,
let's just use a couch for example. If you had
a knife and threw a knife at a couch, right,
and then you looked at the couch.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
You would see that it would probably like cut.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
It might if you were able to actually hit the
blade against the target, it would cut the fabric and
it might put like a little dent into the couch. Right,
Take the same knife and go up to the couch
and stab it directly as hard as you can, right,
if you looked at both of the holes created by
each of those things, If you looked at the couch
that was getting directly stabbed with your hand as hard as.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
You could it would be like the full.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Depth of the knife, if not even further, because you
could push it in even deeper, right, whereas if you
looked at the other one, it would be like a
slice on the skin and maybe a nick into the skin.
Because you have to think about it like, this guy
isn't using knives that are specifically made for throwing like
you would see in the circuits or whatever like that.

(43:39):
It's not a heavy knife that could throw like that.
And he also isn't skilled like that to get it
directly to go into this girl's body. So the medical
examiner was basically saying that the wound was so deep
and long, there's no way that the knife went into
her body and made a hole that deep and then
fell out, you know what I mean. It was definitely

(44:01):
like he grabbed it, he pushed as hard as he could,
it made a really deep gash into her body, and
then he poured it out. Yeah, but it's just not
It wouldn't be possible because even if he was across
the room and threw it at such a perfect angle
that it went in like that, it would have been
like lodged in her body. And when they showed up
at the scene, there was nothing in her body, so

(44:22):
if it bounced off of her like he was describing,
there's no way it could have made a hole that big.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
He said to be set in some February tenth. So
I guess we'll see what ends up happening. But I
think his defense attorney was arguing, he's already serving a
life sentence. I don't know if that means a life
sentence of guilt without his daughter's daughter or like what,
but it's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Yeah, so when he when he did stab her, it
went in between her ribs, through her lungs, and then
went into her heart and she bled to death internally
right away obviously. And yeah, like he didn't throw it.
It just it's not happening, and it's it just sounds
like such a lie, you know, like, oh, I didn't
realize it was knife, Like pick up a pair of

(45:06):
tongs and then pick up a knife, Like come on,
it's just.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Well, maybe you don't when you're blackout drunk. So like, yeah,
like he did admit he was on substances, so yeah,
maybe genuinely he didn't, but he wasn't in a right
state of mind and you still did it.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah, I don't know what people go through, dude.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
All right, so this next one's unbelievable. As usual, a
Florida elementary school principal and teacher have been arrested after
allegedly throwing up parties where over one hundred juveniles were
drinking alcohol. What is going on that.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
The teacher child relationship has been very blurred When it
used to be like this is your teacher, this is children,
there's not this like, oh, we're friends, we hang out
after school. Like when did this happen?

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I don't know, but and well, I guess we could
say for years and years and years it's been going
on on some type of small and I'm not sure
if it's one of those we just know about it
more now with social media and the press, or if
people are just really blurring the lines and they just
think it's acceptable to be hanging out with these kids.
Something in this story that really disturbs me is one
of the kids ended up having a medical event in

(46:15):
the front yard so badly that nine one one was called,
and when they got there, the principal who owned the
house where the party was turned off all the outdoor
lights and hid inside of her house so then the
first responders had to use lights on their vehicles to
treat the child.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Well, this, like literally just doesn't make sense to me.
She's a principal of an elementary school, so what's that
like under fifth grade? And then the other person involved
is a third grade teacher. Do you ever think about
like your principal growing up and your third grade teacher
growing up? I hated that lady by the way, or

(46:52):
I don't want to drop any names, but they had
some pretty funny ones. But like, no, like I can't
imagine it, and even now my kids, the principal the
kids school, like.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
What it is?

Speaker 1 (47:04):
So weird?

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Can I tell them my favorite story to explain your
relationship with going to school, which was in eighth grade,
you went up to the chalkboard and wrote who hates
this class on the board and then had people sign
it and you suspend it.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Well, it was genius, I was. I was a visionary
genius of abudding the system back then. But seriously, like,
what what's happening right now? One hundred kids? One hundred kids?
And they said these parties happened maybe one or two
times a month that the kids, Yes, the kids would

(47:38):
show up and there was coolers with alcohol there. They said,
there were circumstances where there was a kid that had
a gun once there was marijuana there. Sometimes like like
what were they were they making money off it somehow
by charging the kids or what were they doing because
why would an adult pay money for alcohol to serve
to a children unless something Unless they were either making

(48:01):
money or the adults were doing something bad with the children. Also,
there has to be more to the story, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
If they were working in the elementary school, does that
mean they were tracking these kids until they were older,
or like what was their relationship with the older kids
if they were working in.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
The elementary I don't know. I don't know because like
in my situation, our elementary school is attached to the
high school, so like it could be a situation like
that where it's just very close and they're able to
know who the kids are. Anyway, I don't know how
long this has been going on. But not to mention
the fact that giving children alcohol is is just terrible.

(48:39):
Imagine like, as a parent, I don't even know where
you thought your kid was going that night, but apparently
a hundred children were out at this party. As a parent,
knowing that an adult is giving your child alcohol is
just disturbing too.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
It's very weird. And you know, we know somebody that
was in this situation where when they were in college,
they were twenty one, and they were going to school
to become a teacher, and they had a party at
their house on campus one night and there was underage
people meaning like eighteen nineteen years old drinking there, and
the cops came to the house and that girl that

(49:15):
was twenty one lost her teaching license. She was not
able to become a teacher because there was miners caught
drinking in her house. Well, she could get a job
in New Jersey now, because I heard you don't even
need a license to be a teacher here anymore, oh
at all, Because I thought that was just in the
private school, because oh no, now now it's everywhere. We
were having a conversation about this recently, and I was

(49:35):
just like, so, me that has no educational experience at all,
could just be teaching third grade right now? Yeah, basically, I.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Mean, but like, look at the ones that are certified
like having babies with their students or raping their students,
you should say, and giving parties to the students, so well.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
People don't want to be teachers anymore. I mean they
get shitty pay. Kids anymore are horrible, more harm than ever,
I'd argue, especially with social media, what's the incentive to
be a teacher anymore? And then the ones that actually
are doing it are pedophiles sometimes, So it's like really disturbing,
say sometimes because there's lots of excellent teachers out there. Oh,

(50:14):
not saying it's everybody, but some of the people, as
we are seeing in many of these stories, are ending
up You.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
Sound like Antoine saying you're raping everyone up in here
like they are no, but yeah, this story like it.
And you know, teenage drinkers are five times more likely
to become alcohol dependent when they get older, and there's
been studies done on recently that's said up to thirty
percent of kids, like thirty percent of kids between the

(50:42):
ages of fifteen and twenty have tried alcohol at least once,
if not multiple times in their life. That's like, that's
a lot of kids. You can't stop I know that
you can't stop it. If a kid's determined to do that,
they're going to find a way to do it. But
certainly adults shouldn't be handing it to them like that, Like,
especially they're educators. Yeah, well I don't know any adults.

(51:05):
I'd be just as annoyed if it was a mom
up the street. But yeah, I mean, especially people that
really know the impact that this could have on children,
Because what happens when kids drink, They binge drink, they
drink too much, they don't know how to drink, they
have sex, they make bad decisions that you know what
I mean, Like, there's a lot of other consequences that
could come with it, just besides the actual you know,

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getting drunk at your teacher's house.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
Well, I wouldn't be surprised if more information comes out
about this and there is some type of grooming thing involved,
because I mean, why is it appropriate at all that
these teachers are hosting a party for these children. There's
way more to this story.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
Yeah, they're totally is I agree? Okay, Medical News, So.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
This guy, Aubrey Small's who was born with dwarfism, posted
that he was in TJ Max one day looking at
a suitcase. So he takes out his phone to take
a picture of the suitcase. I guess see if he
wanted to buy it or something, and as his camera's open,
he realizes the camera's moving and his boy he is
being lifted, So at first he thinks that his friends
are playing a joke on him, but then realizes that

(52:06):
strangers are just picking them up.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
This case really upset me. Really, it's so fucked up,
Like I didn't even really realize that that this is
something that people with dwarfism are going through, that people
will just randomly come up to them and pick them up,
like they don't even treat them as if they're a
real human. You know, it's like a thing. It's this
isn't the first time that he's even heard of this happening.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yeah, and he's saying, he's saying, they don't see us
as real people, and that's where danger lies, because you know,
they're picking them up, or they're rubbing their heads, or
they're just getting in their personal.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
You ever go up to a person and pick them up,
You should.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Never touch touch a person person.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
It's it's just so weird. I've had people come up
to me and touch my arms and be like, oh,
your tattoos are so nice, and I'm like, who are
you and why are you touching my body right now.
It's so weird.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Well, I was at Joe Anne, not that long ago,
I want to say, probably like a couple of weeks
ago or two months ago or something, and this lady
was standing so close behind me that I could feel
her like breath on my back, which is disgusting. And
then you know, I have to uncomfortably I keep doing
the you know, I'm shifting a little bit, moving up,
and she keeps getting closer to me to the point

(53:17):
and you know, I'm not confrontational with strangers.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
I was gonna say this, this whole entire problem is you,
because I would have been like I would have put
my arms out and been like yo, like arms likes
go back. You just have to speak up more to people.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Because so I did, and I was like, can you
please stand back, which you know, just took everything out
of my body. I hated doing it, and she like
gave me this dirty look, and I'm like, why am
I getting a dirty look when you are like basically able.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
To read all her that close stand or not me?

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Like, So I started texting Ricky and I was like,
this lady is like standing right on my back and
she's like clearly an eyeshot of my phone, hoping she'd
get the point, like, back the fuck up if you
could read my text messages, Oh oh my god. But
it takes everything out of my body to tell somebody
to get away from me, which I shouldn't have to
do that. But I can't imagine being in a situation

(54:07):
like this where a people are coming close to you,
touching you and let alone picking you up. I mean,
even if they mistake the person with dwarfism as a
child or something, you should not be picking up a
child either randomly.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
You know what's weird too. And I don't want to
say that that people looking at my tattoos is anywhere
on this level of what this guy went through, But
I know when people come up to me and like
are touching my arms and making like a big scene
like that, it just kind of draws like attention to
me that I don't like. I don't like people looking

(54:39):
at me in that kind of a situation. And I'm
just thinking about this guy and this happening in TJ Max,
and like, of course everyone around is going to be looking,
probably pulling out their camera and videoing it, you know,
and it's just like all the dude wanted to do
was just go to the store and buy freaking suitcase.
Like he didn't want to be like treated like he
was just like everybody else there, you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (55:02):
But why can't somebody do it? And it really speaks
to us as a society that why is it so
common that this person has to go on TikTok and
explain this experience, And then there's thousands of comments from
other people with dwarfism saying they experienced the same thing.
Why is it ever acceptable to touch another person or
get in their personal space in a public setting. You

(55:23):
don't know them, therefore you should not be going near them,
and they are regular people. You should not be making
a big deal about it. They just like you said,
all you wanted to do was go to TJ maximize suitcase.
Why is it this whole.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Spac It's just like it's just like, Okay, he was
born with a condition that his bones didn't grow right, Like,
big deal, move on, But just why are you like
making people feel, you know, like it's it it's weird.
But you were talking about that earlier with like that
kid that accidentally killed his teammate's father saying that he'll

(55:55):
probably go to school and people will you know, most
people will be supportive, but there's all he's going to
be those jerks that are just like, oh you you
killed your your friend's dad and all this stuff, and
like you're you just can't wrap your brain around why
people are so mean like that.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
You know, no, I really can't. And like I would
argue if I was in his situation, turning right around
on them and being like you might, you know, be
making a spectacle about my appearance. But clearly you're fucked
up in your head if you think it's okay to
come over here, like I'm the normal person in this situation,
You're wrong.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
Yeah, I mean, like the people I think that he
has the right to call the police for assault, Like honestly.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
Like, you should not be touching any because.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Think about this, like you don't You and I could
never know what that feels like because we haven't been
able to be picked up like that since we were children,
you know what I mean, Like, think about how scary
that is if you're just standing there and adults pick
you up off the ground you don't know why.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Like, and they're going and making fun of the situation,
and it's really yeah, funny, but it's it's it's just
it's very it's.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Invasive, and it's it's it's terrorizing to him. He should
have called the freaking cops. Honestly, Like, I don't know,
I don't know what charges could be because like if
if you hurt somebody, I mean maybe he didn't get hurt,
but like, I don't know if they could press any charges.
But I just think that you should be able to that.
It's just something doesn't seem right that that could just

(57:23):
be legal and be happening to people, you know, to
me that Lawren's punching somebody in the face because honestly,
they deserved it. I know, right, he should he should
have just took both of his fist and like punched
the dude in the head.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Yeah, seriously, it's really not funny. And I don't think,
you know, I don't understand why this is happening often
that it's a point where people are talking about their
experiences a lot.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Yeah, Okay, other death news.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
So this chick went on Reddit and explained how she
and her wife were having two babies via Sarah Gate,
and she explained beforehand that her wife's parents are horrible people,
and then all of a sudden, when they found out
about the babies, they wanted to be involved, and they've
been pretty annoying about it. So their plan is they're
going to have a daughter, and they're planning to name
the daughter after the surrogate, and then they're having a

(58:09):
son who they want to name after the reddit poster's father,
who passed away from cancer the last year. So when
the in laws got word that they were going to
name the sun after the deceased grandpap, they thought that
was really messed up, that they were naming the baby
after a corpse.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
I just think that they have the classic example of
narcissistic parents right that they think that they're owed something
just because they are a parent, rather than actually being
a parent that deserves the title.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Yeah, like they want them to name the kid after
one of their family members that's alive, But saying it's
ridiculous to name somebody after a corpse is so idiotic
to me. Aren't most family members named after deceased loved
ones like grandfather's parents, great grandpas in memory of those persons. Again,
I mean, my daughter is exactly. It's so stupid to

(59:03):
even say out loud.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
We just never had a family like that. That's like pushy.
I just I would never tell you what to name
your kid. Well you'll be a judgmental of it, but
you will. No, I won't tell you what to do.
I'll tell you it's fucking stupid. I have no problem
saying that. But like, I'm not gonna demand you change it, like,
do whatever you want. Name your kid poop stain. I

(59:25):
don't care, Like it doesn't affect me. I'll give the
kid a fake name when I'm with it. I don't
give a shit.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
You won't like the names I have picked out for
my future kids, but they probably douchey.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Did you get them like looking at a pottery barn
catalog or something?

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Is it? I totally got them looking at a pottery
Is it Huckley? It's Huxley Huxley. Don't way name is
by the way. I watch part two of that. I
guess the final episode's coming out tomorrow night. It is
really disgusting to me, Like this kid was on every
single YouTube video for I think a year or two.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
How do I wonder?

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
How I guess?

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
I mean it's not a crime to rehome a human.
I feel like, I just I don't like this, and
she's not like getting in any kind of trouble for it.
I guess well, I think morally it's a crime, right
if you wouldn't be Yeah, but like chance about it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
But because then it would bring up an argument of
if you rehome a child, then you could also get
in trouble for just having a kid and adopting that
kid out because you're not ready to be a parent,
you know what I mean. Like it's it's a really
great area. I think morally, it's really fucked up to
do something like that. If you decide that you're going
to go through the process and take a kid, you

(01:00:41):
should be treating them like they're your biological child, not
as this disposable child.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
I know when they say that, but like why why
even say that if that's not even really the truth,
like the truth like there, I don't know, it's just
like a weird clause. I like, if you if you
have a kid, let's just use this as an example.
If you have a kid that you biologically gave birth
to that's like five years old, and you just determine Okay,

(01:01:07):
this kid has autism and I don't want to deal
with it. You can't just like rehome it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
Yeah, but I think you can because you I think
you could give a child up for adoption at any point.
Can you give a child up for adoption that's just
like already established and living in the house. Why couldn't,
Like I could just give Luca up for adoption right now?
I pick her?

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Why did I pick her? But I'm just saying, like
I could just randomly just bring one of my kids
somewhere and be like, I'm rehoming you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I don't think so. I just don't think so. Well,
we need to look more into that. But I don't
like if you're if you're not terms for putting up
a child for adoption, because not all children are put
up when they're newborn. Some of them are older.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Yeah, but that's a lot in other countries and stuff.
I don't know if it's here because here, I know,
like people adopt older kids, but the kids already like
in foster and this and the like. If you're just
a regular person like they are, they're not. I wouldn't
call them regular because they certainly suck, but they're not
on drugs, they financially could take care of the child.
They have other children that they're taking care of. There

(01:02:13):
has to be some kind of thing that you can't
just be like, I don't like this kid, and I'm
getting rid of this kid. There's no way because you
never hear of this happening. Really, they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Most people that have children don't do that. But then
or people that are going to lose are going to
get rid of their kids inevitably lose them due to
drugs or abuse or something. So I don't know if
most people have the mental clarity to be like, let
me give this child up for adoption even though they're older,
because I'm clearly not equipped to be this kid's parent,

(01:02:44):
because I think most of the times when the kids
are put up for adoption when they're older, it's because
of a bad situation they're in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Yeah, I don't. I am curious.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
I'm sure it's happened, because it was able to happen
with these people. I'm sure anything's happened, but it's just you.
I really don't recall ever hearing something like that happen. Well,
did this state or the adoption agency, whoever handles that
might look at it like you're not losing your kid
per se. But if you're saying emotionally you don't want them,
we're not going to risk them being in an unloving

(01:03:14):
environment and like risk them then being abused or something
like that. I don't really know. I'm just trying to
think of all the solutions. But we could look into
this because I am curious about it. All right, Let's
move on to Questions of the Day. Every Friday at
the at mother nos Death Instagram account, we put up
a question box in our story and you guys could
ask whatever you want first. When doing an autopsy, are

(01:03:36):
there any defining characteristics from certain diets such as vegan,
dairy free, et cetera.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
No, I would say no, just because and anybody that
tells you that is different, I wouldn't believe them because
when you do an autopsy, you certainly don't know what
a person's diet is. So there could very well if
there was a study involved where they were you know,
you had like X amount of participants in a study

(01:04:02):
and they were finding out history of what the person's
diet was and how strict they were with that diet.
We know from just what we talked about last week
with this carnivore diet, that this guy was doing that
he really wasn't following the rules of the carnivore diet
one hundred percent. So even saying, oh, this guy's on
carnivore diet isn't necessarily going to correlate with what you

(01:04:25):
would see at autopsy. But when we get a chart
on someone's health, it doesn't ever say what their diet is.
We don't know if they were vegan, We don't know
if they were vegetarian their whole life. We don't know
any of that stuff. So it would just be difficult
to really speak of that. That's all I could say, Like,
you just wouldn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Okay, what do you think about the link between low
cholesterol being a link to dementia and Alzheimer's disease.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
I don't really know one hundred percent about that, so
I don't want to speak about it. But I have
been hearing more and more things that the cholesterol levels
that doctors are trying to aim for now, which is
under three hundred in the opinion of a lot of people,
are considered to be too low, And the reason for
that being is there's probably a way more eloquent way

(01:05:13):
to say this. But the brain is made of fat,
and it needs fat in order for it to thrive
and to function as properly as possible. So I think
that that is that probably has something to do with
what you're saying. I'm not one hundred percent sure, but
I have been reading a lot of different things that
are saying that a higher fat and higher cholesterol diet

(01:05:36):
might be better for brain health.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
All Right, this listener wants to know how long we've
known each other. I'd say thirty years plus ten months,
give or take, if you want to you want to
go back.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Someone actually asked a question of how long we've known
each other.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
Yeah, And somebody last week asked how we knew each other.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
She just came out of my vagina one day, like,
and she was there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
I do think it's really hard for people to believe
for mother and daughter because you just look so young.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
I think I do understand. I understand that just because
and it's not that I look young, it's just that
we're close together in age. It doesn't it's not like
oh I look so young. No, it's just like any
parent and child that are fifteen years apart. Don't look
like their parent and child, right, But I feel like
we look enough alike that it's kind of I don't

(01:06:34):
think that we look like twins or anything like that,
but it's kind of like if you were just listening
to us and you never had known anything about us,
what you'd be like, it's kind of weird that, like
they kind of talk the same and they kind of
look the same, but they're friends. Like it's just it's
just weird. Well, if we were sisters, that would be

(01:06:55):
more reasonable. I think one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Person wrote us a Nasty Graham and said they can't
listen to the show anymore because we sound so much
alike and they can't differentiate our voice.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Can you put like a voice thing on me? So
I could sound like one of those people that get
interviewed on Dateline.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
I'm like when they interview banks, see like you know
what I'm talking about. That's like it like blurs your
voice and makes you sound crazy. Yeah, I'm like, what
am I supposed to do about this?

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
In the editing bay? Like like you go a kub
oct that's deeper. I don't know what to say. We
sound alike?

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
What am I and we and we live, we live
in the same region, We have the same annoying a jersey,
and then we just have a genetically similar voice. So
I don't know what to say. You could usually tell
because I have like mom tone all the time and
you you laugh all the time. Like it's that's how
you could differentiate.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Do you consider having known me as the day exited
your vagina or the day you found out you were
pregnant with me? Well, I didn't really know you, but
you didn't feel like a bond with me for I did.
I did.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
I'm saying that person was asking how when? Wait what
was the other question? It was when did you guys meet?

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
The one before was how how you know each other?
And this one was how long have you known each other?

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
Yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
I'm the same person that asked the question twice, but
that answers it. I mean, when did you find out,
like the spring of nineteen ninety four you were going
to be a mother? And then yes, I graced your
presence in December of that year.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Jesus Christ, Like, who who listen? There's people that listen
to our podcast that don't really it happens every single
time there's comments on Instagram they just don't realize it.
And I'm like, there's lots of things. Anybody that's followed
me knows that for what eleven twelve years, that you are,

(01:08:58):
that I have you. You're in my post all the
time and stuff like that. My book I wrote about
our whole life story or all like summarized it. But
you know what I mean, we kind of sound alike,
We kind of look alike. The podcast is called Mother
Knows Death, Like there has to be like when you

(01:09:19):
whenever you read the title of a podcast, don't you think, like,
why did they name it that? That's my first impression,
Like if it's not somebody's name, I just came across
one the other day and I'm like, hmm, that's interesting.
I want to look up what that means. Why did
they name it that. There's like a reason.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
People always also think that you have a mole on
your like above your lip, and I have a piercing
to match your mole. But I'm not that obsessed with
you that get imatging piercing to your mole. We both
have piercings in the same exact spot. Yours is just
what black and mind's yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
Clear, So so you're you're just and yeah and you're
just well, don't say you're just not that obsessed with me.
It was just like I was like, you should get this,
and then we went and got it, and we should
convince the girls to get it too, like so we
all match. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
I mean I've had mine since I was sixteen, so
William's only a couple of years away.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Yeah, I don't know how old. Well I was nineteen
when I got it first, but I've had it done
three different times because I've had to take it out
when I have kids and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
It is. It's weird thing. When I was working at
the bar, there was a couple of times where some
of my regulars that I had for years would be like,
did you just get that piercing And I'm like, no,
I've literally never taken it out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Yeah, I had to take those. So the first time
I took mine out, you won't believe this. And this
was like in the late nineties. I had to take
it out because like, you couldn't get a job with
a piercing in your face, which was ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
I mean, even when I worked at Bath and Body
Works for six weeks. They made me put a band
aid on it one time, so oh yeah, on yourkay take,
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:56):
But so that was the one time I had to
take it out, and then I to take it out
when I had Lilian, just because I had that horrible
experience of almost dying, so I wasn't really worried about
putting my piercing back in, and then I feel like
I had to take it out again with the other one.
But whatever, I'm not sure, but yeah, I've had it
since I was nineteen, pretty consecutively.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Well, we'll get the girls to get it when they're
older and then we'll all match. Yes, all right, Well,
thank you guys so much. Please leave us a five
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And if you have a story, please submit it to
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(01:11:38):
don't always see all of them because you know how
Instagram be.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
So yeah, exactly, I don't get half my shit, I
swear to God. But the thing of the week now
on Instagram is that I'm getting like a massive influx
of porn bots, like and they're all named like something
bunny like, so many of them I don't even understand.
I'm taking screenshots of it now because I have to

(01:12:02):
go through and report all of them as spam. I
just don't understand how they're posting sexual gifts like underneath
of my post as a comment.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
I don't understand how. I don't know if you've noticed this,
but the last two weeks, my targeted ads have been
out of control. So first Ricky and I were looking
into getting an exercise bike, and I swear every other
post is this exercise bike. They must spend thousands and
thousands of dollars on ads on your meta, And that's
the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
Because you sent me a picture of Taylor Swift's horrible
outfit the other day, which is just like, you know
what I was thinking about this outfit. I'm just like,
this looks like when my kid has a theme day
that she has to wear purple to school and she
just puts on any random thing to fit the colors,
that like, is not really an outfit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Well, what I quote to quote the Countess Luanne. Even
Louis Vaton makes mistakes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
So okay, Well regardless, I don't even want to talk
about that, because now just talking about this motherfucker is
gonna be all over my phone again. Like I had
picture after picture after picture. I even told you, like
I hope their team doesn't win because I just don't
want to fucking see their relationship, and like it just
annoys the shit out of me. So now since you

(01:13:15):
sent me that picture, every and it's not even just
on Instagram, it's on Facebook, it's on everything. It's just
like every article is about Tower Swift now and I'm
just like I just got that out of my feed,
like you can't get away from it. It's outrageous.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Well, now my phone thinks I have mesothelioma because we
wrote about asbestos this week, which it's not funny to
have that. It's just the ads I'm getting are ridiculous
because we wrote about asbestos this week, and when Louie
was at my house on Sunday, I got some spam
mail for bathfitter and he said the word bathfitter, And
now I'm getting a million ads.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
I thought they got in trouble for listening to you
to us, and they weren't allowed they're not listening. Oh okay,
you know, don't even. Don't even We all have proof
of it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
But you could bring up something that you haven't thought
about since you were ten years old, randomly and all
of a sudden you and Ed just knows what's on
your mind. It's just that good. Yes, okay, all right, Well,
thank you guys so much. We'll see you later in
the week.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Say ya, thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death.
As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.
I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without

(01:14:31):
the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,
and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform
people based on my experience working in pathology, so they
can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.
Always remember that science is changing every day and the

(01:14:52):
opinions expressed in this episode are based on my knowledge
of those subjects at the time of publication. If you
were having a medical problem, have a medical question, or
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