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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to be talking about another muckbong death, an update
on the little boy who died as a result of
the hyperbaric oxygen chamber explosion, and in Bomber who took
justice into her own hands, crazy story, a lawsuit involving
the dangers of Girl Scout cookies. And we'll also talk
(00:41):
about the dangers of hair extensions. If you're getting an MRI.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
All right, let's start off with the story of this
twenty four year old TikToker. He was famous for doing
muckbong content. He's died due to obesit related issues. So
do you want to talk about that some more?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I just I'm curious why with all of the restrictions
on social media for certain things like trying to educate
people about medicine and stuff, that they just allow this.
Why do they allow this? I can care, but they
do care. They act like they care all the time.
That I mean, you're they're not allowing Remember we had
a couple months ago a story about the one woman
(01:20):
who was an influencer who was Anarexic. Her name was
Eugenia who remember that she had a TikTok account and
they were blocking in. All these people were signing these
things that she shouldn't be able to show this on
social media because it was so dangerous to show people
eating disorders. Well, this to me is the form of
an eating disorder as well, and people are are basically
(01:42):
looking at this guy abuse himself. It's very unusual. Yeah,
but I.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Don't think people see it as an eating disorder, which is.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Why why what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Like, listen, I'm not saying I agree with that. I
very much see it that way too, But I really
don't think the general public sees it like that.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
They're watching this guy who's obese feed his face and like,
get off on it. It's so weird.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I don't know. I mean, this trend's been pretty popular.
I don't think the trend started off as you know,
this thing where these people were doing it to make
themselves sick. I think the word literally translates to like
eating broadcasts, So I think it started off as this
way where people would be on a channel and they
could be talking while eating food and reviewing it not
(02:27):
just like stuffing their face with as much as possible
until they got sick. But it's kind of just evolved
into that and that's all we see from the trend anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, I just I just think it's totally bizarre. But anyway,
he's twenty four years old. I don't even know. I mean, like,
just by looking at him, he's probably at least five
hundred pounds, if not more. So I don't know what
his BMI was and what his obesity level was obesity
related issues. I mean, I don't know exactly what happened,
(02:55):
but he's twenty four years old, and it's just so
sad that he was doing that to his body for
attention and now he's dead. It's gross.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if the reason he
was obese was because of doing these I think they
kind of went hand in hand. But he was hospitalized
for the last three months. They were saying due to
bruising and breathing difficulties. Why would you be in the
hospital due to bruising.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, the thing is is that when you have liver
damage from if you have a fatty liver and you
could fatty liver could turn into cirrhosis at some point.
It can affect your clotting factors, So I could assume
that that's what it's from, that he was actually having
liver failure rather than and that was just a result
of it that he Because you know, when your clotting
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factors aren't working correctly, you could just bang against the
table very lightly and get bruises all over the place
from minimal trauma, so that could be something to do
with it. You wouldn't necessarily just be hospitalized because of
the bruises, But the breathing difficulty is just from all
of the extra weight and how it pushes your diaphragm
(04:03):
up into your chest like that. I mean I did
an autopsy once on someone that was this obese, and
their ribcage was totally deformed. Their organs were pushed up
so far into their chest cavity. You were just like,
how the hell did this person's lungs even expand that
It's just so crazy, So, I mean, whatever, people deal
with obesity all the time. I just think that it's
(04:25):
just kind of gross in this situation, especially because the
guy's so young and he was getting more and more
followers from this behavior. Which just didn't help.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
No, it definitely doesn't help. I think the Turkish government
is trying to use this case as an example of
how dangerous these videos can be and trying to urge
at least their population to not engage in them, especially teenagers,
because that's most of the people that are using TikTok,
young people in their teens their early twenties. So I
think people really do need to look at these and
(04:56):
see that it's not harmless and can be really dangerous
to your body. We have an update on a story
that we brought to you back in February of this year.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You want to tell him about it?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Ray, Yeah, So a couple of weeks ago we reported
on the death of a five year old boy in Michigan.
He died as a result of a hyperbaric chamber explosion
at this place called the Oxford Center. So now this
investigation has come out showing there was all these problems
with routine maintenance checks and just people not doing their jobs.
No medical doctor, safety supervisor, supervisor was present during the treatment.
(05:30):
They weren't doing the daily maintenance check, they weren't doing
this other thing that the manufacturers suggested called a pre
dive safety check. They weren't doing yearly inspections. So now
four people have been arrested in this case in connection
to the boys' death.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I'm not surprised, honestly. Like these centers that exist, and
there's all sorts of centers that are around that are
not they're not FDA approved or they're not they don't
really have to do with medical treatment. You have to
be skeptical if they're really following the rules here. Apparently
this place was having these hyperbaric chambers and they were
(06:05):
pushing it to treat things off label that you would
typically do with hyperbaric oxygen chambers. So, for example, if
you have a wound that doesn't heal very quickly, you
could go in one of these chambers and that will
help because there's more oxygen in these chambers, and that's
supposed to help increase the likelihood that your wound's going
to heal better. And it does, like that's a scientifically
(06:28):
proven thing. But these centers are having these chambers for
people for reasons that are not FDA approved or considered
approved for use for these chambers, including autism and depression
and things like that. So this mom was taking her boy.
There a five year old boy there. I believe he
(06:49):
was having autism or something. He was having issues with
that and the mom, I mean, parents get desperate and
they're like, we want to see if this will help whatever,
And it's to this place. There's no doctor work in.
They're just sticking them in this thing that has one
hundred percent oxygen, which is three times more oxygen that's
in the air. They never really said exactly what happened,
(07:09):
like the fire, and police never said what happened, but
the thing blew up and the kid was pronounced dead
on the scene. The mom was there the whole time,
and if the kid was pronounced dead on the scene,
I can't even imagine like what could have happened up
into including like amputations and horrible things that that mother saw.
(07:29):
Because for them to pronounce somebody dead at a scene
and not bring them to the hospital, even if their
heart had just stopped or anything, means that the kid
was probably very obviously dead looking. And that is the
most disturbing part of this story. I'm glad that there's
charges being brought. I definitely hope there's lawsuits and everything.
(07:51):
This company's still trying to be like we did everything
we could, Like, fuck you, I really think that you
just need to go away at this pen.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I mean, the investigation showed they did not do everything
they could, but they weren't even doing the basic checks.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, I mean, it's just total it's totally irresponsible. And
what's scarier for consumers is that they walk in and
they have no idea that they like a regular person
just has no idea what they're walking into, and it's
so scary. No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
So let's go over some of the arrests in this case,
most notably the CEO and founder of the Oxford Center.
Her name's Tammy Peterson. She's been charged with second degree
murder been issued a two million dollar bond.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Then we have the.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Center's safety director and the primary management assistant. They've also
been charged with second degree murder with two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars bonds. And then lastly, the operator of
the chamber has been charged with one count of involuntary
manslaughter and one count of intentionally placing false information on
a medical record as a medical provider. So clearly they
thought all these people were definitely responsible for it. I
(08:50):
am interested with the second degree murder charge because I
would also have thought they would have been slapped with
involuntary manslaughter.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, I don't know about any of you know how
people pick charges or whatever. I'm just like, I'm actually
really happy to hear this because so many times you
hear about stuff that's considered in the realm of malpractice,
even though this isn't really medical technically, because these people
weren't medical professionals. But so many times you hear about
(09:20):
stuff like this happening and people suing and stuff, but
they get away with it a little bit. And I
hope that they're really trying to set an example for
this place, because it's really just so sad for this mom.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Well, they scandal back in twenty twenty one where they
had hired this woman they knew that had a criminal
record and that had faked having a medical license. But
I guess the owner and the CEO this tammy woman
was trying to play it off as she was Christian
and knew about it, but was trying to give this
woman redemption. But listen with what she did. So this
(09:54):
lady Casey Discan, who they had hired. She posed as
a board certified behavioral analysts and stole another woman's medical credentials,
including her certification number, n NPI number, and then she
totally fabricated her license number. Yeah, that's mean major crime in.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
My it really is. And we've heard about that. We've
even reported on that a couple times on this show,
about people making these fake medical licenses. It's so scary.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So that woman ended up creating these therapy programs with
the Oxford Center with the children with autism, and of
course when the parents found all this out. It's extremely
problematic that somebody would go to such great lengths to
fake having all these credentials. Yeah, and you have to
wonder if you're putting in all the effort to fake
having the credentials, just earned them the right way, why aren't.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
You just doing it? Can we said about every criminal
that ever existed, Like, if you just put that effort
into your life, you would be successful at something besides
being a criminal. Like, Yeah, but I do agree with you.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I think in a lot of cases like this, we
don't often see justice for the families, and I think
the severe charges are warranted if you're knowingly not doing
the inspections you're supposed to be doing. And somebody has
lost our life as a result of that. You deserve
to get in trouble, all right.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So this next story is going into yet another story
of the dangers of social media. It's like we have
at least one an episode, So let's get into this one.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
This one is so weird. So this sixteen year old
girl from Florida met this thirty five year old man
on a dating app. I don't even know how a
sixteen year old is getting access onto a dating app?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
What now what? It didn't say what dating app? I'm
just curious. It didn't say which one, but yeah, and
I thought it was saying it's social media app too,
so I'm like, what I mean, I guess it could be.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
So it's a dating app, but they did not say
which one. And I have not been on a dating
app in a decade, so I don't know the credentials anymore.
But you used to have to connect it to Facebook
obviously with Tinder anyway, used to have to connect it
to Facebook to prove you're a real person. I don't
know how it's working anymore, but I feel like you
have to upload your license or something to prove your
real and you're of a No, I doubt it. So she
(12:03):
gets linked up with this guy. She ends up going
to his house and then is health captive there by
this man and his girlfriend. Her grandmother did not report
her missing for ten days after this. What was going
on with that? She was also the mother of an
eleven month old baby. Nobody in her family was like,
where is she?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I have no idea, Like, this is just we talked
about this on a couple episodes when you're like, there's
a certain way we were talking about with Casey Anthony
last episode right or two episodes ago that we were
just saying, you know, if your grandchild is missing for
this amount of time, why would you wait a month
to call? And this and that, And maybe it was
(12:44):
common for this woman, this sixteen year old to disappear
for a couple of days at a time, and nobody
really thought anything of it. And maybe the grandmother was
was it her grandmother or her mother?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
So both of her parents are dead, so she was
living with her grandma, but she was the mother of
an eleven month old, so was her grandmom raising the baby?
I would assume so if they were all living in
the house together. But I'm like, nobody realized she wasn't
there for ten days or got in contact with her
for that amount of time.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I don't know, So so what happened? So she went
over and was she having like a relationship with this
guy and his girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Or it seems like they lured her over to the house.
And then what the police are saying is that she
they thought she stole a ring, so they then started
beating her for seven days before finally they put a
poll ball into her mouth and then wrapped her head
in plastic wrap and she ended up suffocating to death.
So then they take her body to this other property
(13:46):
where they dismember her, and then they dumped her in
a dumpster.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Wow, and did they find her body?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yet? They did, so they found her body. She was
reported missing. I guess she goes to their house on
Valentine's Day. She's reported seeing ten days later on February
twenty fourth, and then they found her body on March seventh.
So it took a while, but very disturbing.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You know what upsets me about this story, like thinking
about having all of you that are listening, I have
ever had a teenager or have a teenager in your
life right now? Like thinking about a sixteen year old
that her life wasn't that important to her caregiver that
she was even reported to be gone for ten days. Like,
(14:29):
a sixteen year old is a child. It's a little kid. Yeah,
And there's not a person that every day is waking
that child up to go to school and every night
talking that child into bed and giving them money for
things and packing them lunches. And it's just like like
there's always these other gross things to the story that
(14:52):
make it so much more upsetting.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, definitely, because you just want to think on the surface, like,
you know, both of her parents are dead. I don't
know how long they were gone, but she's already in
this unconventional situation of being raised by her grandmother. She
is the mother of an eleven month old baby, so
clearly she went through that as a young person. And
then just nobody is even keeping tabs on her whereabouts
(15:15):
for that long.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I mean, like it doesn't seem like it would matter anyway,
because this was going to happen, right, maybe because if
she was being held captive for all those days and
it was reported that she was missing, and they might
have found her alive, tied up over there, you know,
like it didn't have to end this way, But how
are they gonna get caught if if nobody even knows
(15:39):
she's gone? Exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So, both of the people, the guy and his girlfriend,
have been charged with first degree murder and kidnapping. Did
you also see in the article that before they got
the charges with kidnapping and murder that he had been
arrested for drug possession and pointing a harpoon? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
His girlfriend?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yes, Like who just says a harpoons? He's like a
real quality character, yeah, real quality guy, all right speaking,
So this is probably the most outrageous story that we've had,
like all week at least, right, Yeah, just in the
last day or so.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Now, this is like pretty outrageous.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
So this Texas and balmber has been charged after she
allegedly took her scalpel blade and cut off the penis
of a dead man after finding out he was a
registered sex offender.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So this lady was preparing this guy to get to
go into cremation, okay, and she found out he was
a sex offender. He's a fifty eight year old guy.
She cuts off his penis in front of an embalming
student and sticks it in his mouth before she puts
(16:48):
him to get cremated, okay, and tells the student, you
didn't see anything.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay, Like you can't expect that the student is not
gonna I'm assuming the students who reported her correct.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I'm sure, but listen, Like sometimes sometimes you always like
if you're especially you're a mentor. I've been a mentor
and I've been a student. Like sometimes you see people
do stuff and you're kind of like, yeah, I don't
know if I do that that way. But then like
this is like and I'm like a Karen tell On
person at all, but like I don't know this. This
is like a little beyond the point of like something's
(17:25):
not right here with this person. Like let me just
maybe I should mention this to somebody. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, I was talking to my friends about this last
night too, and I'm like, you know, in some regard,
I think everybody could agree he deserved it in some way,
but like, you also just can't be doing that. You
can't take It's like Luigi, like you just can't take
the law on your hands. No, And it was a
weird move there.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
There's also it's weird too because I worked with dead
people all the time, and I just never would personally
connect myself at all to them to get mad. If
I like, if I found that I was doing an
autopsy on a sex offender, I'd be like, I don't care,
that's not it has nothing to do with me. It's
just like there's like a distinct line between like that's
my work and this is my life here, and like
(18:10):
I don't cross the two over. The only way that
I could almost even justify it is if somehow she
found out that he was the guy that sexually assaulted
her if she was a child, Yeah, then I could
see her just like completely snapping and feeling that that
was going to make her heal in that And at
(18:31):
that point I would I would kind of be like,
all right, I still don't really think it's right, but
I understand why she did it. But just finding out
that the guy's a pedophile and you don't have any
connection with it, it's just super it's super weird to me,
And like if you're being in charge of taking care
of dead people like that, you can't you can't do
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stuff like that. It's just it's it's it's like like
the prosecutor that was that that is charging her with
all of that is saying that you know, the law
requires that he be treated with dignity and death like you,
you can't just use your past experiences and and do that.
And the fact that she did it in front of
someone is almost like she wanted somebody to see or
(19:15):
do it.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well, it kind of begs the question, what else has
she done? Because I feel like this is kind of
I would.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Believe that she probably hasn't done anything because I think
that she did it because she had an audience there
and she wanted to act like she was kind of
a bass yeah, like and thinking like nobody would get
mad at me for this, and somebody's going to praise
me for this, and and like really the guy, like,
I don't care what you think. Like, the guy's dead,
you didn't do nothing to him. He doesn't, he doesn't,
(19:41):
he doesn't feel it. He's not getting upset. None of
the victims. I mean, maybe now that if the guy's
name's getting released, some of the victims who were so
still alive or probably happy that this happened. Maybe, but
the guy's dead, he doesn't, Like, I don't know, It's
just it's just a little unusual.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, Like That's what I'm saying, is that I think
when you hear this story, you're like, Okay, I could
I could see how you'd want to like disgrace somebody
in their final well it's not even his final moments.
Like I was just about saying, he's already dead. I
understand how you want to disgrace a person, but like
you're just taking it a little too far. And now
like you're in your early thirties, you lost your job,
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you're charged with felony abusive of a corpse, Like this
really isn't a good look for you.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
You're maybe they're saying they're saying that they might they're
trying to either suspend or revoke her license, and I'm
kind of like, no, I think the point of like
we're done here, which like you need another career something
is like, honestly, if you're that pent up about something,
maybe you should go work in the field of sexual
(20:44):
assault and help victims or something. But like, this isn't help,
it's not doing anything.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I just don't understand how you think you're doing this
and not getting in trouble. But I understand, like maybe
she wouldn't have done it if she didn't have the
audience there and she was just trying to show off.
But definitely questionable decision making. And you don't really want
somebody like that working around people. Well, I guess they're
not a live people, but you don't want somebody like
that in this position. It's it's it was weird.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You know, I lie. This story is weird too, all right.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So in Tennessee, this guy was sleeping in bed with
his girlfriend, so I guess they had a loaded gun
on their bed somewhere.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I was trying to really intelligent by the way.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I was trying to think, like of all possible scenarios.
Sometimes people say they sleep with a loaded gun under
their pillow. I don't think that's why is either, but
people say that. And then I was thinking, could it
have been on the nightstand, But I think by what
they're saying.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
No, it on the bed.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, it's it's on the bed. So their one year
old dog jumps up on the bed, his paw gets
stuck in the trigger guard, and then he ends up
setting the gun off and shooting the guy.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
You know, this is a one year old pit bull
and piples always get a really bad name. His name's Oreo.
Now now they're getting even more of a bad name
because he shot his owner. The dog shot his owner.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
This is one case with the pitbull. We're gonna talk
about where it really was. I guess none of them
are the dog's fault, but the dog was really set
up for failure in this case. He was just being
cute jumping on the bed. I don't know why the
owners had a loaded gun anywhere in proximity of the
dog and just on the bed. I mean, couldn't this
have happened if they kicked it and it went on
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, and so I guess it shot the guy in
his left thigh and he was treated at the hospital
and left. It could have went terribly wrong if it
hit his femeral artery or something, or even worse depending
on what angle the gun was laying in the bed.
This is just this is kind of just stupid behavior
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on these people's part. I mean, even if there wasn't
a dog here. But apparently this has happened a couple
times before, and two years ago a German shepherd killed
a man after it stepped on a hunting rifle.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, but again, yeah, like it shouldn't the gun shouldn't
be in position for the dog to step on it.
But I could see it, like maybe if somebody is
cleaning their gun or something or whatever, they have it
on the ground or they have it on the table,
dog steps on it. Why is a loaded gun in
your bed just while you're sleeping. It's it's very bizarre.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I don't I don't even know if it would. I mean,
if it's loaded, I guess it's not just loaded though,
Like it wasn't. It wasn't locked, like it was in
a position that it was ready. It seemed like it
was like it was in a position ready. It was
in the chamber like ready to go. Yeah, like safety Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Nothing. I really can't wrap my mind around how this
went down because it's so irresponsible.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's so it is weird, and I guess, I mean nothing,
nothing's going to happen. I feel like still though, the
police should just be like, dude, like is someone coming
to kill you? Like why do you need to keep
this thing like ready to go like right here? I
don't know. It's just weird. This episode is brought to
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It took me a really long time to write that one, honestly,
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learning about it in school once or twice. And that's
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it because literally like ten people die a year from it,
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So it's kind of crazy that that was his wife's
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Speaker 1 (24:45):
It's technically Frankie, but but nobody says that. Nobody says
it correctly, but it is technically Frankie.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
But Ruby frank. I think the Frankie makes her sound
like a little bit less, a little innocent than she is.
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Speaker 2 (25:22):
All right, So have you been seeing all of these
videos that are circulating online about Girl Scout cookies, Because
I've gotten at least twenty in box messages of people
sharing these videos with me.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I actually have not seen any because my entire Instagram
feed right now is people making marshmallows and those videos
that are like, he didn't ask you to be his
egg for East.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
God, the algorithm is so frickin annoying.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I don't know how I started getting those particular ones,
but they're so funny. They're just so funny to be
and they're just ridiculous. But anyway, what's in the video?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, I mean they This hasn't come up on my feed,
but people have been sending it to me, and it's
just saying that I guess some group of people ordered
Girl Scout cookies from all different states and had some
testing done on them, and it found that every single
one of the cookies had traces of aluminum, arsenic like
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heavy metals, mercury pesticides, which we know cause human pathology
and disease. So of course that's concerning considering everybody buys
Girl Scout cookies I guess except us because they're gluten
free on suck and the other ones that are actually
good we can't eat. So whatever. That's just a side note.
But yeah, so a lot of people are freaked out
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about this because you know, there's a lot of chemicals
in all of our food that we're finding out aren't
safe for us to be ingesting at any level, let
alone what they consider to be safe levels. So all
these videos have been going around this This woman is
vital lawsuit against the Girl Scouts for what.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Five million dollars, which I don't think is that much
considering the shocking number presented in this article, which was
that they make about a billion dollars a year off
of the cookies. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I don't like the whole I did the whole Girl
Scout thing for a while, and it just like, I
don't know that I was necessary. I like the idea
of it, and it probably started off as a good idea,
but the way that it is now, it was like,
our troops sold so many cookies and then one of
the moms that was in our group just like sold
a bunch of cookies and kept the money. I think
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out of a five dollar box, your troop gets like
seventy five cents of it. So basically every single box
out of all the kids in the troop that we sold,
like we didn't get any credit for because that mom
took all that money. She never got arrested.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Did she give like a fake identity and everything when
she signed up and then just stole.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, like you couldn't figure out who she was. It
just was it was just like it was crazy. The
whole thing was so crazy. But I was kind of
turned off by it. And I'm like, oh, so we're
just gonna tell all these little girls that like somebody
could come steale this money and then they're not getting
anything for all their hard work is selling these cookies
and like the person's not even getting in trouble whatever.
That's like a whole side note.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
But nobody get any ideas for the stale, right.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
So I guess I don't know if these people that
bought the cookies, because like you and I could, we could,
and like it would be an interesting study to just
go to the store and buy like chips, ahoy a
all these other cookies and send them to a private
company and have them tested, because I'm sure it's not
just Girl Scout cookies. It's like every single thing that
we probably that's a processed food, right unless you're and
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I'm saying, like, unless you make the cookies from scratch,
and even if you do, you would still find these
things and the flowers you use and all this stuff.
So it's just it's really hard to say. These people
that are making this lawsuit are comparing the findings that
they're finding in the Girl Scout cookies with the EPA's
water safety standards, and I guess the levels are higher
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than what the water safety standards are. But the FDA,
who's in charge of the food and the USDA there
they have I guess a different threshold of what's considered
to be non harmful. So they're putting out a statement
that says, quote, based on current FDA regulations, there's no
evidence that the cookies pose a health risk, which to
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me is a cover you're ass because you're saying, well,
you're not that confident. You're just saying that based on
the current recommendations. So when we find it out in
twenty years that the recommendations right now are terrible, then
like they'll be bad. But as of like what they're
considering to be safe right now, the FDA is saying
that they fall within those limits.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
So well, the FDA at one time said oxy cotton
was a non addictive drugs.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
So let's think about it like we could. We could
go on and on and on about the FDA and
everything else. So and that's constantly changing. That happens with science.
W change and evolve and we learn things or whatever.
So if I think it's good for parents to have
this information, because if you choose that you don't want
to have it, I guess the scary thing is is
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that when you read the label, like all that shit's
not written in it, right, So parents don't know until
they get tested. And like you know, the Girl Scouts
use a couple different bakeries, so that's why sometimes they
have different names, or they don't have a cookie in
one part of the country and another part of the country.
But this is a this is like a world or
a country wide thing. And I'm pretty sure that some
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of those companies listed that make Girl Scout cookies also
make other cookies that are sold in the grocery store.
So yeah, this isn't specific. This is more of, like,
I don't know if this is necessarily a Girl Scouts
problem as much as it is an FDA problem of
what they're allowing. Well, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I'd argue that if you tested almost any processed food
made it any facility, you're gonna find something. Yeah, it's
just it's impossible tonight. Even everything's marketed is organic and whatever.
Just if anybody had the time and resources to test
every single food product we have, I guarantee you things
like this would come up regularly.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It really would. So, I mean, I don't know, do
whatever you want with the information. I it's crazy because,
like you said, you didn't see any of these videos
circulating online, and they probably like this is a horrible
pr crisis for for the Girl Scouts because like now,
the only thing they got is the cookies.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Really, and they're good, Like before our gluten free days,
I'd fuck up a box a thin mint and woods sitting.
They're the most delicious cookie on the planet, especially when
you put them in the freezer. Oh my god, absolutely,
I could.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Probably make them. Well you should, And it's Okay, so
you could have an MRI recently. Did they ask you
if you had hair extensions when you went? They did?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
They did not, It was not on the list. But
let me tell you when I was five minutes into
the test that I realized I had a necklace off.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
And they didn't see that you had a necklace on. No,
So wow, I mean it's right there that I know
which necklace you're talking about. It's like on your neck,
it's not like hanging down like anybody talking to your
face would see it.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Okay, So like I will take responsibility one hundred percent
that I left it on because I've I've had this
necklace I think for three years and I don't take
it off often. I don't even feel it's there. So
when I go in for the MRI, I fill out
the questionnaire which is asking me if I have a pacemaker,
and like prust In plans all this stuff right, and
I'm like, okay, I take my piercing out and make
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sure my wedding rings off. Everything. When I got to
the facility, they asked me all the same questions again.
I answered them, and then I'm five minutes in and
I'm sitting there you know, cause like you can't do anything.
So I'm like in my thoughts and like, oh shit,
my necklace is on. So I squeezed the little ball
and I'm like my necklace and they're like is it
bothering you? And I said no, and they're like, well
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you're fine.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Then they were like, then stop bothering us.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Basically, so all right, so this girl, So I have
the opposite experience. I haven't had an MRI on myself
in a long time, but Lucia gets some for her
medical condition pretty often every couple of months and when
we go, so we go to Children's Hospital and they're like,
I have to say that Children's Hospital is just so
in Philadelphia, is just so awesome and extra thorough on everything.
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Every single time my husband and I are there, we're like,
why can't these people be our doctors too? Like why
why don't adults get this kind of individual awesome attention
to details and everything. But when so, when my daughter
Lucia gets an MRI, they ask us the craziest questions
of things like do you have any piercings? Do you
have any piercings inside your mouth or genitals? Like things
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that kids wouldn't have ever. Do you have tattoos? Do
you have this? Do you have hair extensions? They ask
so many things because there's all these different things that
people can have metal on their body and they just
don't even realize it. And it could be a problem
because an MRI is uses a giant magnet. Right, So
this girl is getting she's getting an MRI and she's
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laying there and then all of a sudden, she feels
like her hair is like ripping away from her head
and she never even thought about it. But she did
the same thing you did, like hit the little buzzer
and just said, there's something wrong with my hair extensions.
It's like pulling my hair, and the same it was
the same reaction. The MRI tech was like is it
bothering you? And she said like, can you deal with
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it for another twenty minutes or whatever? And I don't.
I don't really necessarily though, if that reaction is appropriate,
because it's same with you with the metal because in theory,
like the metal could heat up and burn, it can
actually burn your skin. So even if it's not bothering
you right now, I don't know if there's if there's
a threshold that Okay, if it doesn't burns one right away,
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it's not going to for the rest of the test
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
And they not just pull you out, you know how,
They'll be like, Okay, this one's like two minutes, and
they'll be like, the next one's three minutes. Can they
not pull you out in between and take it off?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
And then they might not be able to interrupt the series.
I have no idea how that what those people do
at their job.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
And alright with me though, I was only past the
first one, like the two minute one, so I'm like,
can't we just start it over again?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah? Maybe, I don't know. I mean, like, obviously they
would if a person was having a serious issue, because
at that point the test doesn't matter as much as
like you being on fire or like being sucked into
an MRI machine.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
But at the same time, I don't think what I
was feeling, like I was having a reaction to the
contrast that they were taking that quite seriously either. So
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Because they know your type, your your hypochondriac, freaking out
medical anxiety type walks through their door twenty times a day,
and they're like, yeah, whatever, like when a person gets
contrast and is having anophylaxis, it looks a certain way.
I didn't think I was having anaphylaxi, But then who cares.
Just if you weren't gonna die, then you'll get over it.
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Like listen, end a story.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
All right, side note, can they not make these tests quieter?
Because with all the technology we have today, it's like,
you're already claustrophobic in this thing, and then you have
this loud noise and these lights like flashing at your head.
How are you not going to have a panic attack
in this situation?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
No, I have like a weird thing, I don't know
what it's called that I get like very triggered by
noises that are a little bit too loud or something,
and that is definitely at a level that's uncomfortable for
me to hear, and it gives me like this anxious feeling.
I don't know that. And then they have like these
upright ones now, but I'm sure they make the same
amount of noise it is. It is kind of funny though,
(36:50):
that you're just like, dude, you could put a computer
in my pocket right now and I could call people
across the world, But you can't make this thing be quieter.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's just weird or like you can't like put music
on or something.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
No, you can't. Oh no, dude, listen. Let me tell
you about the children's hospital experience. This kid gets earphones
and it's connected to a TV that has Disney Plus
and she got to watch Cruella the whole time. Oh okay, yeah,
it's like high level. And before they had all that technology,
they had this big ass binder in the waiting room
that the kids could pick a DVD that of a
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movie they wanted to watch. I'm telling you, like the kids,
the kids get like the Red Carpet treatment, it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
I don't need a show, but like like like an
elevator music would be good, like anything.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Maybe audio bil like you could just you could maybe
fall into being a kid. There's like there's an eight.
I think you're over that age now, but yeah, I'm
thirty years old. I don't think of falling into the
kid category. But just lie, just like change your date
of birth on the thing, all right. So well, like
let's talk about what happened with this girl anyway. So
she's got hair extensions and there's all different kinds so
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sometimes you could have a bunch of little hairs that
are stuck to a really sticky sticker, and that's extensions.
But these particular ones where they were like a metal
bead that was clipping onto the hair, and then that
metal bead had a piece of plastic over the metal bead.
So the girl didn't realize that there was metal because
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when she looks at it, it looks like a piece
of plastic. She thought they were plastic and a lot
of people are ripping her online, and honestly, like I,
if she didn't know that they were metal, then why
would she even think about it? This is why children's
hospitals so good, because they ask you things that you
wouldn't even think of, you know. So I think I
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don't think that she's totally wrong for just not knowing that.
It's just not clear cut for some people.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
No, But the funny part of the TikTok was like
you could see that they were ripping off, so her
hair looks kind of crazy, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
And it was probably like really uncomfortable, like it freakin'
hurts if you get hair bold. Yeah, I can't imagine that.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I don't know. I think this is something again, like
they maybe need to add some more specific questions on there,
because you know, a lot more people are getting hair
extensions than ever before, and it's just something I like
my necklace. I would not even think about something like that.
But let's get onto questions of the Day. Every Friday
at the apt Mother Knows Death Instagram account, we have
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a story up so you guys could ask us whatever
questions you want. What causes tonsils stones? This person says
they have pretty good dental hygiene, but they get them sometimes.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Oh god, I have a kid that one of my
kids gets some so bad. So your tonsils are like
their filter organs in the back of your throat, so
they're they're kind of your first line of defense when
you're swallowing or breathing in things. So they're supposed to
catch bacteria that you might swallow in or any kind
of debris that shouldn't be going down your throat, and
(39:57):
that is a really good thing to have, but of
course with certain people, it just catches too much debris,
and then it could cause the debris like forms a stone,
like it gets rock hard. You know, you could get
them like in your belly button, ew you can you
could get stones in your belly button. It's just like
(40:17):
a concentration of a bunch of stuff that just like
rock hard together. Right, So my daughter, I'll just and
I don't know what your particular situation is. I'm talking
to the listener that asked this question, but I'll tell
you what I've thought of with my daughter. Anyway, she
doesn't have them all the time, and when she does
(40:39):
have them, I notice that it's during like she'll start
getting them again soon, because this is the time of
year where all of the pollen starts coming out and
she starts getting this crazy post nasal drip and all
morning and all night I hear her like like sucking up,
and I could hear it in her throat, and she's
(41:00):
on all these different listen We've been to every ear
nose and throw allergy doctor. Whatever she's on, like whatever
we can give her except singular, because I've never given
her that freaking drug again, trust me. But aside from that,
it just kind of never really goes away. And I
think that that mucus going on the back of her
throat all the time is just like getting trapped in
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her tonsils like that. It's just that's what's happening because
like the past couple months, she hasn't had any problems
with them. And let me tell you guys a funny.
I probably have told this story before, but one time
this kid had to get an X ray on her
hip because she she had a really sore hip, and
we just got her an X ray because of my
(41:43):
other daughter has all of these problems with their bones.
So we're like, let's just make sure she's all right.
And they said, Okay, her hip's okay, but she has
a foreign body inside of her intestine. And I'm thinking, like, okay,
it's kid's twelve years old, like or almost twelve years old.
What the hell? What did she what foreign body could
(42:03):
she eat? And I was going nuts trying to think
about like what what could this be? Like did she
have like a necklace in her mouth? Did she swallow
a bead? Because it just looked like they a small
little bead and Crisper who I did an external exam
with Christy Salapatta. She is a PA. She does the
same job as as me, but she is a pediatric PA.
(42:24):
And her very first question to me was does Lilian
get tonsilestones? And I said, yeah, she does, and she goes,
that's what it is, because it shows up. It shows
up as a calcified little nodule like or a foreign
body on the X right where a lot of times
people will say like that might be like a tooth
that they swallowed or something. So I was like, oh, okay,
(42:44):
that's interesting because she I've actually posted pictures of her
tonsilestones in the grocer room because they are huge. They're
just so big, like bigger, like the size of a dime,
even bigger, just huge, and so that there's not there's
nothing really you can do. You just have these big crips,
which are what the filter is, and they and things
(43:06):
just get caught in them a certain way. And some
people sometimes they say that you could use a water
pick and like pop them out if you want to.
But I don't really know what to tell you to
prevent getting them except getting your tonsils removed, like that's
really the only cure for it. And I'm not sure
that you want to go that route, especially as an adult,
(43:27):
because I heard that it's more horrible to get that
surgery done when you're a grown up. But yeah, sorry,
I don't have more information on that. But if you
do have allergies and post nasal drip, you might want
to consider trying to fix that problem.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
All right, what are your thoughts on mushrooms toot burial.
Like Luke Perry, we've had these weird burial stories the
past couple episodes. So I did a celebrity at this
section on Luke Perry back in twenty twenty one, and
at the end of it we talked a little bit
about the mushroom suit that he was buried in. I
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guess apparently it's like a suit. Of course, they're expensive.
So you know, you get mushrooms at the grocery store
and they're a dollar and then or two dollars whatever
they cost, and then you get this mushroom suit and
it's fifteen hundred dollars. But I guess it's supposed to
help with the decomposition when you decompose, when you're buried,
and as opposed to getting embalmed or something, because a
(44:27):
lot of times there's like this big movement of green
funerals right now, so they think that like if you
get embalmed and then you get buried when you're decomposing,
you're kind of putting those chemicals into the earth, and
this is more of just like returning your body back
to the earth in a more natural way, and these
mushrooms are supposed to help break down your body and
aid in it. So if I mean, if you, if
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you want to do that, because I don't know if
this is a cheaper alternative, like okay, your family has
a little ceremony for you, and then you put this
suit on, because it's clearly way cheaper than a casket
and you just get buried in the ground. I don't
know what the rules are with that and who would
even do that, but it might actually be way cheaper than.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
A traditional funeral. So I'm not sure, but I don't
like for me personally, I don't care because like that's
up to my family whatever they want to do when
I die. But I'm not if they wanted.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
To do that, I'd be okay with it, all right,
as long as you got me one that looked cute,
Like I don't think there's like stylized options of them.
What's it matter you're dead, because I.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Like the last thought of me going into the ground,
like I want you to like remember me, like looking
kind of cute.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Oh my god, there's this scene in Madman like it's
it's in like the finale of the show where the
mom finds out she is like stage four lung cancer.
But she's like in her thirties. It's really sad. But
she writes a note to the daughter where she's like,
please pick out my prettiest dress. I was crying so bad.
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It was just like such a bummer.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Okay, I'm gonna go pick out a dress when we're done.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Don't write me notes like that. I know what you want,
so just don't worry about it. I don't need to
read some note like that when after you die. All right,
would you guys make a family cookbook, like for public sale?
Speaker 2 (46:25):
This is the thing, Like I could totally make a cookbook.
I've actually made one. I have one at my house
right now. That's all sectioned off by cuisine. I even
have like Ethiopian recipes I've used, which are delicious.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
By the way, I don't think we're enough of like
cooks in the sense of we're making these innovative meals
to be selling a cookbook. I definitely think we could
give it out as a gift or once in a
while post something in the groce room or something that's
here's one of our family recipes.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, all right, Well, thank you guys so much. It's
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not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without the
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone, welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to be talking about another muckbong death, an update
on the little boy who died as a result of
the hyperbaric oxygen chamber explosion, and in Bomber who took
justice into her own hands, crazy story, a lawsuit involving
the dangers of Girl Scout cookies. And we'll also talk
(00:41):
about the dangers of hair extensions. If you're getting an MRI.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
All right, let's start off with the story of this
twenty four year old TikToker. He was famous for doing
muckbong content. He's died due to obesit related issues. So
do you want to talk about that some more?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I just I'm curious why with all of the restrictions
on social media for certain things like trying to educate
people about medicine and stuff, that they just allow this.
Why do they allow this? I can care, but they
do care. They act like they care all the time.
That I mean, you're they're not allowing Remember we had
a couple months ago a story about the one woman
(01:20):
who was an influencer who was Anarexic. Her name was
Eugenia who remember that she had a TikTok account and
they were blocking in. All these people were signing these
things that she shouldn't be able to show this on
social media because it was so dangerous to show people
eating disorders. Well, this to me is the form of
an eating disorder as well, and people are are basically
(01:42):
looking at this guy abuse himself. It's very unusual. Yeah,
but I.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Don't think people see it as an eating disorder, which is.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Why why what are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Like, listen, I'm not saying I agree with that. I
very much see it that way too, But I really
don't think the general public sees it like that.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
They're watching this guy who's obese feed his face and like,
get off on it. It's so weird.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I don't know. I mean, this trend's been pretty popular.
I don't think the trend started off as you know,
this thing where these people were doing it to make
themselves sick. I think the word literally translates to like
eating broadcasts, So I think it started off as this
way where people would be on a channel and they
could be talking while eating food and reviewing it not
(02:27):
just like stuffing their face with as much as possible
until they got sick. But it's kind of just evolved
into that and that's all we see from the trend anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, I just I just think it's totally bizarre. But anyway,
he's twenty four years old. I don't even know. I mean, like,
just by looking at him, he's probably at least five
hundred pounds, if not more. So I don't know what
his BMI was and what his obesity level was obesity
related issues. I mean, I don't know exactly what happened,
(02:55):
but he's twenty four years old, and it's just so
sad that he was doing that to his body for
attention and now he's dead. It's gross.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if the reason he
was obese was because of doing these I think they
kind of went hand in hand. But he was hospitalized
for the last three months. They were saying due to
bruising and breathing difficulties. Why would you be in the
hospital due to bruising.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, the thing is is that when you have liver
damage from if you have a fatty liver and you
could fatty liver could turn into cirrhosis at some point.
It can affect your clotting factors, So I could assume
that that's what it's from, that he was actually having
liver failure rather than and that was just a result
of it that he Because you know, when your clotting
(03:42):
factors aren't working correctly, you could just bang against the
table very lightly and get bruises all over the place
from minimal trauma, so that could be something to do
with it. You wouldn't necessarily just be hospitalized because of
the bruises, But the breathing difficulty is just from all
of the extra weight and how it pushes your diaphragm
(04:03):
up into your chest like that. I mean I did
an autopsy once on someone that was this obese, and
their ribcage was totally deformed. Their organs were pushed up
so far into their chest cavity. You were just like,
how the hell did this person's lungs even expand that
It's just so crazy, So, I mean, whatever, people deal
with obesity all the time. I just think that it's
(04:25):
just kind of gross in this situation, especially because the
guy's so young and he was getting more and more
followers from this behavior. Which just didn't help.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
No, it definitely doesn't help. I think the Turkish government
is trying to use this case as an example of
how dangerous these videos can be and trying to urge
at least their population to not engage in them, especially teenagers,
because that's most of the people that are using TikTok,
young people in their teens their early twenties. So I
think people really do need to look at these and
(04:56):
see that it's not harmless and can be really dangerous
to your body. We have an update on a story
that we brought to you back in February of this year.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You want to tell him about it?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Ray, Yeah, So a couple of weeks ago we reported
on the death of a five year old boy in Michigan.
He died as a result of a hyperbaric chamber explosion
at this place called the Oxford Center. So now this
investigation has come out showing there was all these problems
with routine maintenance checks and just people not doing their jobs.
No medical doctor, safety supervisor, supervisor was present during the treatment.
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They weren't doing the daily maintenance check, they weren't doing
this other thing that the manufacturers suggested called a pre
dive safety check. They weren't doing yearly inspections. So now
four people have been arrested in this case in connection
to the boys' death.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I'm not surprised, honestly. Like these centers that exist, and
there's all sorts of centers that are around that are
not they're not FDA approved or they're not they don't
really have to do with medical treatment. You have to
be skeptical if they're really following the rules here. Apparently
this place was having these hyperbaric chambers and they were
(06:05):
pushing it to treat things off label that you would
typically do with hyperbaric oxygen chambers. So, for example, if
you have a wound that doesn't heal very quickly, you
could go in one of these chambers and that will
help because there's more oxygen in these chambers, and that's
supposed to help increase the likelihood that your wound's going
to heal better. And it does, like that's a scientifically
(06:28):
proven thing. But these centers are having these chambers for
people for reasons that are not FDA approved or considered
approved for use for these chambers, including autism and depression
and things like that. So this mom was taking her boy.
There a five year old boy there. I believe he
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was having autism or something. He was having issues with
that and the mom, I mean, parents get desperate and
they're like, we want to see if this will help whatever,
And it's to this place. There's no doctor work in.
They're just sticking them in this thing that has one
hundred percent oxygen, which is three times more oxygen that's
in the air. They never really said exactly what happened,
(07:09):
like the fire, and police never said what happened, but
the thing blew up and the kid was pronounced dead
on the scene. The mom was there the whole time,
and if the kid was pronounced dead on the scene,
I can't even imagine like what could have happened up
into including like amputations and horrible things that that mother saw.
(07:29):
Because for them to pronounce somebody dead at a scene
and not bring them to the hospital, even if their
heart had just stopped or anything, means that the kid
was probably very obviously dead looking. And that is the
most disturbing part of this story. I'm glad that there's
charges being brought. I definitely hope there's lawsuits and everything.
(07:51):
This company's still trying to be like we did everything
we could, Like, fuck you, I really think that you
just need to go away at this pen.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I mean, the investigation showed they did not do everything
they could, but they weren't even doing the basic checks.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, I mean, it's just total it's totally irresponsible. And
what's scarier for consumers is that they walk in and
they have no idea that they like a regular person
just has no idea what they're walking into, and it's
so scary. No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
So let's go over some of the arrests in this case,
most notably the CEO and founder of the Oxford Center.
Her name's Tammy Peterson. She's been charged with second degree
murder been issued a two million dollar bond.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Then we have the.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Center's safety director and the primary management assistant. They've also
been charged with second degree murder with two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars bonds. And then lastly, the operator of
the chamber has been charged with one count of involuntary
manslaughter and one count of intentionally placing false information on
a medical record as a medical provider. So clearly they
thought all these people were definitely responsible for it. I
(08:50):
am interested with the second degree murder charge because I
would also have thought they would have been slapped with
involuntary manslaughter.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, I don't know about any of you know how
people pick charges or whatever. I'm just like, I'm actually
really happy to hear this because so many times you
hear about stuff that's considered in the realm of malpractice,
even though this isn't really medical technically, because these people
weren't medical professionals. But so many times you hear about
(09:20):
stuff like this happening and people suing and stuff, but
they get away with it a little bit. And I
hope that they're really trying to set an example for
this place, because it's really just so sad for this mom.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Well, they scandal back in twenty twenty one where they
had hired this woman they knew that had a criminal
record and that had faked having a medical license. But
I guess the owner and the CEO this tammy woman
was trying to play it off as she was Christian
and knew about it, but was trying to give this
woman redemption. But listen with what she did. So this
(09:54):
lady Casey Discan, who they had hired. She posed as
a board certified behavioral analysts and stole another woman's medical credentials,
including her certification number, n NPI number, and then she
totally fabricated her license number. Yeah, that's mean major crime in.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
My it really is. And we've heard about that. We've
even reported on that a couple times on this show,
about people making these fake medical licenses. It's so scary.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
So that woman ended up creating these therapy programs with
the Oxford Center with the children with autism, and of
course when the parents found all this out. It's extremely
problematic that somebody would go to such great lengths to
fake having all these credentials. Yeah, and you have to
wonder if you're putting in all the effort to fake
having the credentials, just earned them the right way, why aren't.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
You just doing it? Can we said about every criminal
that ever existed, Like, if you just put that effort
into your life, you would be successful at something besides
being a criminal. Like, Yeah, but I do agree with you.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
I think in a lot of cases like this, we
don't often see justice for the families, and I think
the severe charges are warranted if you're knowingly not doing
the inspections you're supposed to be doing. And somebody has
lost our life as a result of that. You deserve
to get in trouble, all right.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
So this next story is going into yet another story
of the dangers of social media. It's like we have
at least one an episode, So let's get into this one.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
This one is so weird. So this sixteen year old
girl from Florida met this thirty five year old man
on a dating app. I don't even know how a
sixteen year old is getting access onto a dating app?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
What now what? It didn't say what dating app? I'm
just curious. It didn't say which one, but yeah, and
I thought it was saying it's social media app too,
so I'm like, what I mean, I guess it could be.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
So it's a dating app, but they did not say
which one. And I have not been on a dating
app in a decade, so I don't know the credentials anymore.
But you used to have to connect it to Facebook
obviously with Tinder anyway, used to have to connect it
to Facebook to prove you're a real person. I don't
know how it's working anymore, but I feel like you
have to upload your license or something to prove your
real and you're of a No, I doubt it. So she
(12:03):
gets linked up with this guy. She ends up going
to his house and then is health captive there by
this man and his girlfriend. Her grandmother did not report
her missing for ten days after this. What was going
on with that? She was also the mother of an
eleven month old baby. Nobody in her family was like,
where is she?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I have no idea, Like, this is just we talked
about this on a couple episodes when you're like, there's
a certain way we were talking about with Casey Anthony
last episode right or two episodes ago that we were
just saying, you know, if your grandchild is missing for
this amount of time, why would you wait a month
to call? And this and that, And maybe it was
(12:44):
common for this woman, this sixteen year old to disappear
for a couple of days at a time, and nobody
really thought anything of it. And maybe the grandmother was
was it her grandmother or her mother?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
So both of her parents are dead, so she was
living with her grandma, but she was the mother of
an eleven month old, so was her grandmom raising the baby?
I would assume so if they were all living in
the house together. But I'm like, nobody realized she wasn't
there for ten days or got in contact with her
for that amount of time.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I don't know, So so what happened? So she went
over and was she having like a relationship with this
guy and his girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Or it seems like they lured her over to the house.
And then what the police are saying is that she
they thought she stole a ring, so they then started
beating her for seven days before finally they put a
poll ball into her mouth and then wrapped her head
in plastic wrap and she ended up suffocating to death.
So then they take her body to this other property
(13:46):
where they dismember her, and then they dumped her in
a dumpster.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Wow, and did they find her body?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yet? They did, so they found her body. She was
reported missing. I guess she goes to their house on
Valentine's Day. She's reported seeing ten days later on February
twenty fourth, and then they found her body on March seventh.
So it took a while, but very disturbing.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You know what upsets me about this story, like thinking
about having all of you that are listening, I have
ever had a teenager or have a teenager in your
life right now? Like thinking about a sixteen year old
that her life wasn't that important to her caregiver that
she was even reported to be gone for ten days. Like,
(14:29):
a sixteen year old is a child. It's a little kid. Yeah,
And there's not a person that every day is waking
that child up to go to school and every night
talking that child into bed and giving them money for
things and packing them lunches. And it's just like like
there's always these other gross things to the story that
(14:52):
make it so much more upsetting.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, definitely, because you just want to think on the surface, like,
you know, both of her parents are dead. I don't
know how long they were gone, but she's already in
this unconventional situation of being raised by her grandmother. She
is the mother of an eleven month old baby, so
clearly she went through that as a young person. And
then just nobody is even keeping tabs on her whereabouts
(15:15):
for that long.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I mean, like it doesn't seem like it would matter anyway,
because this was going to happen, right, maybe because if
she was being held captive for all those days and
it was reported that she was missing, and they might
have found her alive, tied up over there, you know,
like it didn't have to end this way, But how
are they gonna get caught if if nobody even knows
(15:39):
she's gone? Exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So, both of the people, the guy and his girlfriend,
have been charged with first degree murder and kidnapping. Did
you also see in the article that before they got
the charges with kidnapping and murder that he had been
arrested for drug possession and pointing a harpoon? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
His girlfriend?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yes, Like who just says a harpoons? He's like a
real quality character, yeah, real quality guy, all right speaking,
So this is probably the most outrageous story that we've had,
like all week at least, right, Yeah, just in the
last day or so.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Now, this is like pretty outrageous.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
So this Texas and balmber has been charged after she
allegedly took her scalpel blade and cut off the penis
of a dead man after finding out he was a
registered sex offender.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
So this lady was preparing this guy to get to
go into cremation, okay, and she found out he was
a sex offender. He's a fifty eight year old guy.
She cuts off his penis in front of an embalming
student and sticks it in his mouth before she puts
(16:48):
him to get cremated, okay, and tells the student, you
didn't see anything.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay, Like you can't expect that the student is not
gonna I'm assuming the students who reported her correct.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I'm sure, but listen, Like sometimes sometimes you always like
if you're especially you're a mentor. I've been a mentor
and I've been a student. Like sometimes you see people
do stuff and you're kind of like, yeah, I don't
know if I do that that way. But then like
this is like and I'm like a Karen tell On
person at all, but like I don't know this. This
is like a little beyond the point of like something's
(17:25):
not right here with this person. Like let me just
maybe I should mention this to somebody. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, I was talking to my friends about this last
night too, and I'm like, you know, in some regard,
I think everybody could agree he deserved it in some way,
but like, you also just can't be doing that. You
can't take It's like Luigi, like you just can't take
the law on your hands. No, And it was a
weird move there.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
There's also it's weird too because I worked with dead
people all the time, and I just never would personally
connect myself at all to them to get mad. If
I like, if I found that I was doing an
autopsy on a sex offender, I'd be like, I don't care,
that's not it has nothing to do with me. It's
just like there's like a distinct line between like that's
my work and this is my life here, and like
(18:10):
I don't cross the two over. The only way that
I could almost even justify it is if somehow she
found out that he was the guy that sexually assaulted
her if she was a child, Yeah, then I could
see her just like completely snapping and feeling that that
was going to make her heal in that And at
(18:31):
that point I would I would kind of be like,
all right, I still don't really think it's right, but
I understand why she did it. But just finding out
that the guy's a pedophile and you don't have any
connection with it, it's just super it's super weird to me,
And like if you're being in charge of taking care
of dead people like that, you can't you can't do
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stuff like that. It's just it's it's it's like like
the prosecutor that was that that is charging her with
all of that is saying that you know, the law
requires that he be treated with dignity and death like you,
you can't just use your past experiences and and do that.
And the fact that she did it in front of
someone is almost like she wanted somebody to see or
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do it.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well, it kind of begs the question, what else has
she done? Because I feel like this is kind of
I would.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Believe that she probably hasn't done anything because I think
that she did it because she had an audience there
and she wanted to act like she was kind of
a bass yeah, like and thinking like nobody would get
mad at me for this, and somebody's going to praise
me for this, and and like really the guy, like,
I don't care what you think. Like, the guy's dead,
you didn't do nothing to him. He doesn't, he doesn't,
(19:41):
he doesn't feel it. He's not getting upset. None of
the victims. I mean, maybe now that if the guy's
name's getting released, some of the victims who were so
still alive or probably happy that this happened. Maybe, but
the guy's dead, he doesn't, Like, I don't know, It's
just it's just a little unusual.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, Like That's what I'm saying, is that I think
when you hear this story, you're like, Okay, I could
I could see how you'd want to like disgrace somebody
in their final well it's not even his final moments.
Like I was just about saying, he's already dead. I
understand how you want to disgrace a person, but like
you're just taking it a little too far. And now
like you're in your early thirties, you lost your job,
(20:18):
you're charged with felony abusive of a corpse, Like this
really isn't a good look for you.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
You're maybe they're saying they're saying that they might they're
trying to either suspend or revoke her license, and I'm
kind of like, no, I think the point of like
we're done here, which like you need another career something
is like, honestly, if you're that pent up about something,
maybe you should go work in the field of sexual
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assault and help victims or something. But like, this isn't help,
it's not doing anything.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I just don't understand how you think you're doing this
and not getting in trouble. But I understand, like maybe
she wouldn't have done it if she didn't have the
audience there and she was just trying to show off.
But definitely questionable decision making. And you don't really want
somebody like that working around people. Well, I guess they're
not a live people, but you don't want somebody like
that in this position. It's it's it was weird.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
You know, I lie. This story is weird too, all right.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
So in Tennessee, this guy was sleeping in bed with
his girlfriend, so I guess they had a loaded gun
on their bed somewhere.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I was trying to really intelligent by the way.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I was trying to think, like of all possible scenarios.
Sometimes people say they sleep with a loaded gun under
their pillow. I don't think that's why is either, but
people say that. And then I was thinking, could it
have been on the nightstand, But I think by what
they're saying.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
No, it on the bed.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, it's it's on the bed. So their one year
old dog jumps up on the bed, his paw gets
stuck in the trigger guard, and then he ends up
setting the gun off and shooting the guy.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
You know, this is a one year old pit bull
and piples always get a really bad name. His name's Oreo.
Now now they're getting even more of a bad name
because he shot his owner. The dog shot his owner.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
This is one case with the pitbull. We're gonna talk
about where it really was. I guess none of them
are the dog's fault, but the dog was really set
up for failure in this case. He was just being
cute jumping on the bed. I don't know why the
owners had a loaded gun anywhere in proximity of the
dog and just on the bed. I mean, couldn't this
have happened if they kicked it and it went on
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah, and so I guess it shot the guy in
his left thigh and he was treated at the hospital
and left. It could have went terribly wrong if it
hit his femeral artery or something, or even worse depending
on what angle the gun was laying in the bed.
This is just this is kind of just stupid behavior
(22:44):
on these people's part. I mean, even if there wasn't
a dog here. But apparently this has happened a couple
times before, and two years ago a German shepherd killed
a man after it stepped on a hunting rifle.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, but again, yeah, like it shouldn't the gun shouldn't
be in position for the dog to step on it.
But I could see it, like maybe if somebody is
cleaning their gun or something or whatever, they have it
on the ground or they have it on the table,
dog steps on it. Why is a loaded gun in
your bed just while you're sleeping. It's it's very bizarre.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I don't I don't even know if it would. I mean,
if it's loaded, I guess it's not just loaded though,
Like it wasn't. It wasn't locked, like it was in
a position that it was ready. It seemed like it
was like it was in a position ready. It was
in the chamber like ready to go. Yeah, like safety Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Nothing. I really can't wrap my mind around how this
went down because it's so irresponsible.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
It's so it is weird, and I guess, I mean nothing,
nothing's going to happen. I feel like still though, the
police should just be like, dude, like is someone coming
to kill you? Like why do you need to keep
this thing like ready to go like right here? I
don't know. It's just weird. This episode is brought to
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It's technically Frankie, but but nobody says that. Nobody says
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Speaker 2 (25:22):
All right, So have you been seeing all of these
videos that are circulating online about Girl Scout cookies, Because
I've gotten at least twenty in box messages of people
sharing these videos with me.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I actually have not seen any because my entire Instagram
feed right now is people making marshmallows and those videos
that are like, he didn't ask you to be his
egg for East.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
God, the algorithm is so frickin annoying.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I don't know how I started getting those particular ones,
but they're so funny. They're just so funny to be
and they're just ridiculous. But anyway, what's in the video?
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, I mean they This hasn't come up on my feed,
but people have been sending it to me, and it's
just saying that I guess some group of people ordered
Girl Scout cookies from all different states and had some
testing done on them, and it found that every single
one of the cookies had traces of aluminum, arsenic like
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heavy metals, mercury pesticides, which we know cause human pathology
and disease. So of course that's concerning considering everybody buys
Girl Scout cookies I guess except us because they're gluten
free on suck and the other ones that are actually
good we can't eat. So whatever. That's just a side note.
But yeah, so a lot of people are freaked out
(26:42):
about this because you know, there's a lot of chemicals
in all of our food that we're finding out aren't
safe for us to be ingesting at any level, let
alone what they consider to be safe levels. So all
these videos have been going around this This woman is
vital lawsuit against the Girl Scouts for what.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Five million dollars, which I don't think is that much
considering the shocking number presented in this article, which was
that they make about a billion dollars a year off
of the cookies. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I don't like the whole I did the whole Girl
Scout thing for a while, and it just like, I
don't know that I was necessary. I like the idea
of it, and it probably started off as a good idea,
but the way that it is now, it was like,
our troops sold so many cookies and then one of
the moms that was in our group just like sold
a bunch of cookies and kept the money. I think
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out of a five dollar box, your troop gets like
seventy five cents of it. So basically every single box
out of all the kids in the troop that we sold,
like we didn't get any credit for because that mom
took all that money. She never got arrested.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Did she give like a fake identity and everything when
she signed up and then just stole.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, like you couldn't figure out who she was. It
just was it was just like it was crazy. The
whole thing was so crazy. But I was kind of
turned off by it. And I'm like, oh, so we're
just gonna tell all these little girls that like somebody
could come steale this money and then they're not getting
anything for all their hard work is selling these cookies
and like the person's not even getting in trouble whatever.
That's like a whole side note.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
But nobody get any ideas for the stale, right.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
So I guess I don't know if these people that
bought the cookies, because like you and I could, we could,
and like it would be an interesting study to just
go to the store and buy like chips, ahoy a
all these other cookies and send them to a private
company and have them tested, because I'm sure it's not
just Girl Scout cookies. It's like every single thing that
we probably that's a processed food, right unless you're and
(28:39):
I'm saying, like, unless you make the cookies from scratch,
and even if you do, you would still find these
things and the flowers you use and all this stuff.
So it's just it's really hard to say. These people
that are making this lawsuit are comparing the findings that
they're finding in the Girl Scout cookies with the EPA's
water safety standards, and I guess the levels are higher
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than what the water safety standards are. But the FDA,
who's in charge of the food and the USDA there
they have I guess a different threshold of what's considered
to be non harmful. So they're putting out a statement
that says, quote, based on current FDA regulations, there's no
evidence that the cookies pose a health risk, which to
(29:24):
me is a cover you're ass because you're saying, well,
you're not that confident. You're just saying that based on
the current recommendations. So when we find it out in
twenty years that the recommendations right now are terrible, then
like they'll be bad. But as of like what they're
considering to be safe right now, the FDA is saying
that they fall within those limits.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
So well, the FDA at one time said oxy cotton
was a non addictive drugs.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
So let's think about it like we could. We could
go on and on and on about the FDA and
everything else. So and that's constantly changing. That happens with science.
W change and evolve and we learn things or whatever.
So if I think it's good for parents to have
this information, because if you choose that you don't want
to have it, I guess the scary thing is is
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that when you read the label, like all that shit's
not written in it, right, So parents don't know until
they get tested. And like you know, the Girl Scouts
use a couple different bakeries, so that's why sometimes they
have different names, or they don't have a cookie in
one part of the country and another part of the country.
But this is a this is like a world or
a country wide thing. And I'm pretty sure that some
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of those companies listed that make Girl Scout cookies also
make other cookies that are sold in the grocery store.
So yeah, this isn't specific. This is more of, like,
I don't know if this is necessarily a Girl Scouts
problem as much as it is an FDA problem of
what they're allowing. Well, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I'd argue that if you tested almost any processed food
made it any facility, you're gonna find something. Yeah, it's
just it's impossible tonight. Even everything's marketed is organic and whatever.
Just if anybody had the time and resources to test
every single food product we have, I guarantee you things
like this would come up regularly.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
It really would. So, I mean, I don't know, do
whatever you want with the information. I it's crazy because,
like you said, you didn't see any of these videos
circulating online, and they probably like this is a horrible
pr crisis for for the Girl Scouts because like now,
the only thing they got is the cookies.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Really, and they're good, Like before our gluten free days,
I'd fuck up a box a thin mint and woods sitting.
They're the most delicious cookie on the planet, especially when
you put them in the freezer. Oh my god, absolutely,
I could.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Probably make them. Well you should, And it's Okay, so
you could have an MRI recently. Did they ask you
if you had hair extensions when you went? They did?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
They did not, It was not on the list. But
let me tell you when I was five minutes into
the test that I realized I had a necklace off.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
And they didn't see that you had a necklace on. No,
So wow, I mean it's right there that I know
which necklace you're talking about. It's like on your neck,
it's not like hanging down like anybody talking to your
face would see it.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Okay, So like I will take responsibility one hundred percent
that I left it on because I've I've had this
necklace I think for three years and I don't take
it off often. I don't even feel it's there. So
when I go in for the MRI, I fill out
the questionnaire which is asking me if I have a pacemaker,
and like prust In plans all this stuff right, and
I'm like, okay, I take my piercing out and make
(32:38):
sure my wedding rings off. Everything. When I got to
the facility, they asked me all the same questions again.
I answered them, and then I'm five minutes in and
I'm sitting there you know, cause like you can't do anything.
So I'm like in my thoughts and like, oh shit,
my necklace is on. So I squeezed the little ball
and I'm like my necklace and they're like is it
bothering you? And I said no, and they're like, well
(33:01):
you're fine.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Then they were like, then stop bothering us.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Basically, so all right, so this girl, So I have
the opposite experience. I haven't had an MRI on myself
in a long time, but Lucia gets some for her
medical condition pretty often every couple of months and when
we go, so we go to Children's Hospital and they're like,
I have to say that Children's Hospital is just so
in Philadelphia, is just so awesome and extra thorough on everything.
(33:29):
Every single time my husband and I are there, we're like,
why can't these people be our doctors too? Like why
why don't adults get this kind of individual awesome attention
to details and everything. But when so, when my daughter
Lucia gets an MRI, they ask us the craziest questions
of things like do you have any piercings? Do you
have any piercings inside your mouth or genitals? Like things
(33:52):
that kids wouldn't have ever. Do you have tattoos? Do
you have this? Do you have hair extensions? They ask
so many things because there's all these different things that
people can have metal on their body and they just
don't even realize it. And it could be a problem
because an MRI is uses a giant magnet. Right, So
this girl is getting she's getting an MRI and she's
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laying there and then all of a sudden, she feels
like her hair is like ripping away from her head
and she never even thought about it. But she did
the same thing you did, like hit the little buzzer
and just said, there's something wrong with my hair extensions.
It's like pulling my hair, and the same it was
the same reaction. The MRI tech was like is it
bothering you? And she said like, can you deal with
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it for another twenty minutes or whatever? And I don't.
I don't really necessarily though, if that reaction is appropriate,
because it's same with you with the metal because in theory,
like the metal could heat up and burn, it can
actually burn your skin. So even if it's not bothering
you right now, I don't know if there's if there's
a threshold that Okay, if it doesn't burns one right away,
(35:00):
it's not going to for the rest of the test
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
And they not just pull you out, you know how,
They'll be like, Okay, this one's like two minutes, and
they'll be like, the next one's three minutes. Can they
not pull you out in between and take it off?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
And then they might not be able to interrupt the series.
I have no idea how that what those people do
at their job.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
And alright with me though, I was only past the
first one, like the two minute one, so I'm like,
can't we just start it over again?
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah? Maybe, I don't know. I mean, like, obviously they
would if a person was having a serious issue, because
at that point the test doesn't matter as much as
like you being on fire or like being sucked into
an MRI machine.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
But at the same time, I don't think what I
was feeling, like I was having a reaction to the
contrast that they were taking that quite seriously either. So
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Because they know your type, your your hypochondriac, freaking out
medical anxiety type walks through their door twenty times a day,
and they're like, yeah, whatever, like when a person gets
contrast and is having anophylaxis, it looks a certain way.
I didn't think I was having anaphylaxi, But then who cares.
Just if you weren't gonna die, then you'll get over it.
(36:11):
Like listen, end a story.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
All right, side note, can they not make these tests quieter?
Because with all the technology we have today, it's like,
you're already claustrophobic in this thing, and then you have
this loud noise and these lights like flashing at your head.
How are you not going to have a panic attack
in this situation?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
No, I have like a weird thing, I don't know
what it's called that I get like very triggered by
noises that are a little bit too loud or something,
and that is definitely at a level that's uncomfortable for
me to hear, and it gives me like this anxious feeling.
I don't know that. And then they have like these
upright ones now, but I'm sure they make the same
amount of noise it is. It is kind of funny though,
(36:50):
that you're just like, dude, you could put a computer
in my pocket right now and I could call people
across the world, But you can't make this thing be quieter.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
It's just weird or like you can't like put music
on or something.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
No, you can't. Oh no, dude, listen. Let me tell
you about the children's hospital experience. This kid gets earphones
and it's connected to a TV that has Disney Plus
and she got to watch Cruella the whole time. Oh okay, yeah,
it's like high level. And before they had all that technology,
they had this big ass binder in the waiting room
that the kids could pick a DVD that of a
(37:21):
movie they wanted to watch. I'm telling you, like the kids,
the kids get like the Red Carpet treatment, it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
I don't need a show, but like like like an
elevator music would be good, like anything.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Maybe audio bil like you could just you could maybe
fall into being a kid. There's like there's an eight.
I think you're over that age now, but yeah, I'm
thirty years old. I don't think of falling into the
kid category. But just lie, just like change your date
of birth on the thing, all right. So well, like
let's talk about what happened with this girl anyway. So
she's got hair extensions and there's all different kinds so
(37:57):
sometimes you could have a bunch of little hairs that
are stuck to a really sticky sticker, and that's extensions.
But these particular ones where they were like a metal
bead that was clipping onto the hair, and then that
metal bead had a piece of plastic over the metal bead.
So the girl didn't realize that there was metal because
(38:20):
when she looks at it, it looks like a piece
of plastic. She thought they were plastic and a lot
of people are ripping her online, and honestly, like I,
if she didn't know that they were metal, then why
would she even think about it? This is why children's
hospitals so good, because they ask you things that you
wouldn't even think of, you know. So I think I
(38:42):
don't think that she's totally wrong for just not knowing that.
It's just not clear cut for some people.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
No, But the funny part of the TikTok was like
you could see that they were ripping off, so her
hair looks kind of crazy, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
And it was probably like really uncomfortable, like it freakin'
hurts if you get hair bold. Yeah, I can't imagine that.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I don't know. I think this is something again, like
they maybe need to add some more specific questions on there,
because you know, a lot more people are getting hair
extensions than ever before, and it's just something I like
my necklace. I would not even think about something like that.
But let's get onto questions of the Day. Every Friday
at the apt Mother Knows Death Instagram account, we have
(39:24):
a story up so you guys could ask us whatever
questions you want. What causes tonsils stones? This person says
they have pretty good dental hygiene, but they get them sometimes.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Oh god, I have a kid that one of my
kids gets some so bad. So your tonsils are like
their filter organs in the back of your throat, so
they're they're kind of your first line of defense when
you're swallowing or breathing in things. So they're supposed to
catch bacteria that you might swallow in or any kind
of debris that shouldn't be going down your throat, and
(39:57):
that is a really good thing to have, but of
course with certain people, it just catches too much debris,
and then it could cause the debris like forms a stone,
like it gets rock hard. You know, you could get
them like in your belly button, ew you can you
could get stones in your belly button. It's just like
(40:17):
a concentration of a bunch of stuff that just like
rock hard together. Right, So my daughter, I'll just and
I don't know what your particular situation is. I'm talking
to the listener that asked this question, but I'll tell
you what I've thought of with my daughter. Anyway, she
doesn't have them all the time, and when she does
(40:39):
have them, I notice that it's during like she'll start
getting them again soon, because this is the time of
year where all of the pollen starts coming out and
she starts getting this crazy post nasal drip and all
morning and all night I hear her like like sucking up,
and I could hear it in her throat, and she's
(41:00):
on all these different listen We've been to every ear
nose and throw allergy doctor. Whatever she's on, like whatever
we can give her except singular, because I've never given
her that freaking drug again, trust me. But aside from that,
it just kind of never really goes away. And I
think that that mucus going on the back of her
throat all the time is just like getting trapped in
(41:22):
her tonsils like that. It's just that's what's happening because
like the past couple months, she hasn't had any problems
with them. And let me tell you guys a funny.
I probably have told this story before, but one time
this kid had to get an X ray on her
hip because she she had a really sore hip, and
we just got her an X ray because of my
(41:43):
other daughter has all of these problems with their bones.
So we're like, let's just make sure she's all right.
And they said, Okay, her hip's okay, but she has
a foreign body inside of her intestine. And I'm thinking, like, okay,
it's kid's twelve years old, like or almost twelve years old.
What the hell? What did she what foreign body could
(42:03):
she eat? And I was going nuts trying to think
about like what what could this be? Like did she
have like a necklace in her mouth? Did she swallow
a bead? Because it just looked like they a small
little bead and Crisper who I did an external exam
with Christy Salapatta. She is a PA. She does the
same job as as me, but she is a pediatric PA.
(42:24):
And her very first question to me was does Lilian
get tonsilestones? And I said, yeah, she does, and she goes,
that's what it is, because it shows up. It shows
up as a calcified little nodule like or a foreign
body on the X right where a lot of times
people will say like that might be like a tooth
that they swallowed or something. So I was like, oh, okay,
(42:44):
that's interesting because she I've actually posted pictures of her
tonsilestones in the grocer room because they are huge. They're
just so big, like bigger, like the size of a dime,
even bigger, just huge, and so that there's not there's
nothing really you can do. You just have these big crips,
which are what the filter is, and they and things
(43:06):
just get caught in them a certain way. And some
people sometimes they say that you could use a water
pick and like pop them out if you want to.
But I don't really know what to tell you to
prevent getting them except getting your tonsils removed, like that's
really the only cure for it. And I'm not sure
that you want to go that route, especially as an adult,
(43:27):
because I heard that it's more horrible to get that
surgery done when you're a grown up. But yeah, sorry,
I don't have more information on that. But if you
do have allergies and post nasal drip, you might want
to consider trying to fix that problem.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
All right, what are your thoughts on mushrooms toot burial.
Like Luke Perry, we've had these weird burial stories the
past couple episodes. So I did a celebrity at this
section on Luke Perry back in twenty twenty one, and
at the end of it we talked a little bit
about the mushroom suit that he was buried in. I
(44:03):
guess apparently it's like a suit. Of course, they're expensive.
So you know, you get mushrooms at the grocery store
and they're a dollar and then or two dollars whatever
they cost, and then you get this mushroom suit and
it's fifteen hundred dollars. But I guess it's supposed to
help with the decomposition when you decompose, when you're buried,
and as opposed to getting embalmed or something, because a
(44:27):
lot of times there's like this big movement of green
funerals right now, so they think that like if you
get embalmed and then you get buried when you're decomposing,
you're kind of putting those chemicals into the earth, and
this is more of just like returning your body back
to the earth in a more natural way, and these
mushrooms are supposed to help break down your body and
aid in it. So if I mean, if you, if
(44:50):
you want to do that, because I don't know if
this is a cheaper alternative, like okay, your family has
a little ceremony for you, and then you put this
suit on, because it's clearly way cheaper than a casket
and you just get buried in the ground. I don't
know what the rules are with that and who would
even do that, but it might actually be way cheaper than.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
A traditional funeral. So I'm not sure, but I don't
like for me personally, I don't care because like that's
up to my family whatever they want to do when
I die. But I'm not if they wanted.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
To do that, I'd be okay with it, all right,
as long as you got me one that looked cute,
Like I don't think there's like stylized options of them.
What's it matter you're dead, because I.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Like the last thought of me going into the ground,
like I want you to like remember me, like looking
kind of cute.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Oh my god, there's this scene in Madman like it's
it's in like the finale of the show where the
mom finds out she is like stage four lung cancer.
But she's like in her thirties. It's really sad. But
she writes a note to the daughter where she's like,
please pick out my prettiest dress. I was crying so bad.
(46:03):
It was just like such a bummer.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
Okay, I'm gonna go pick out a dress when we're done.
Speaker 1 (46:09):
Don't write me notes like that. I know what you want,
so just don't worry about it. I don't need to
read some note like that when after you die. All right,
would you guys make a family cookbook, like for public sale?
Speaker 2 (46:25):
This is the thing, Like I could totally make a cookbook.
I've actually made one. I have one at my house
right now. That's all sectioned off by cuisine. I even
have like Ethiopian recipes I've used, which are delicious.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
By the way, I don't think we're enough of like
cooks in the sense of we're making these innovative meals
to be selling a cookbook. I definitely think we could
give it out as a gift or once in a
while post something in the groce room or something that's
here's one of our family recipes.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, all right, Well, thank you guys so much. It's
been an awesome week. Please leave us a five star
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Speaker 3 (47:06):
Saya, thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death. As
a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant. I
have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy and
pathology education. I am not a doctor and I have
not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without the
(47:27):
assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,
and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform
people based on my experience working in pathology, so they
can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.
Always remember that science is changing every day and the
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opinions expressed in this episode are based on my knowledge
of those subjects at the time of publication. If you
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