On today’s MKD, we get into Carol Burnett Show Star Vicki Lawrence's chronic hive condition, a man killed trying to save a turtle, a mother mauled by an escaped lion, a cougar on the loose in Rochester, tan injections, and vaginal hay fever.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we
are going to be talking about an actress who had
a medical condition that lots of people have, particularly women
who suffer with it is not very serious, but it
could be described as torture. A man who was killed
and put lives at risk trying to save an animal,
the dangers of keeping a big cat as a pet,
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suntan addiction, and hay fever of the vagina. All right,
let's get started with this actress.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Like, you're not saying this is serious, but this is
a personal form of hell, I would think.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So I'm saying it's not serious in in the sense
of like you're not going to die from it, but
I will. Yes, I've had this and it's hell.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
All right, a pinnet point because I want to get
back to that, Okay. Vicky Lawrence, who was an actress
known for her role in The Carol Burnett Show. She
woke up one morning in August of twenty twelve with
itchy hands, and you know, it was unusual, but she
didn't think too much of it. She even made a
joke to her husband that they should buy lottery tickets
because she thought they were going to be coming into
some serious money because of you know that myth that
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if your hands age. So over time the hives got
worse and within the next couple of days they were
covering her entire body. All right, you know who this woman?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
This is actually really bizarre because me and Gabe on
our road trip we were talking about eighties like shows
that we used to watch in the eighties, and one
of them, I was like, do you remember that show
called Mama and It, And that's who she is. She's
the Mama Lady. She played like a really old grandma
lady that was crotchety but hilarious, and I guess it
(02:01):
was like a spin off of a Carabournett. This is
like no one that was born before, Like you, you
probably have no idea what it is, but like I know,
some people listening know what I'm talking about, So that's
who we're talking about. Also side note, she's seventy six
years old and she looks awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh my god, I didn't even realize she was that old. Yeah,
she does look amazing. Was Rue McClanahan in that show, though,
she was.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
She was in it. I don't know if she was
in it all the time, but she definitely was. She
was in it for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Okay, because I feel like I was. I feel like
I was watching CNN has this show called like History
of the Sitcom or something, and I feel like it
was on there and I saw Rue McClanahan. I was like,
I don't know that show. I really don't know anything
Rue McLanahan was in besides Golden Girl.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
No. It was. It was really funny and I used
to watch it as a kid. So it just was
weird that that I was talking about this particular show
a couple of days ago and now we're talking about
this lady again. But anyway, you guys should check that
out if.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
You have that thing that I have dreams about.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, exactly dies. So she has a condition called chronic
spontaneous urticaria, and that is just a fancy word for
saying that she has hives, and they don't know what
calls it, and it they're not going away initially. So
the reason that I say that this is torture is
because when whenever you've had hives, they itch so bad,
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and if you can't take medication to make it go away.
Having a chronic itch like that that is also that
gross like swelling itch. It's really it's torture that you
cannot you cannot alleviate the itch, and it is enough
to drive someone crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, So this was reminding me of that story we
had I guess a couple of months ago about that
woman who is pregnant and ended up taking her life.
And you know, I understand you're saying it's not a
serious condition in the sense of like it's like cancer
and they'll die from it. But when you're getting tortured
with something that badly, I could see how it could
take a mental toll on you and force you to
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take drastic measures because of how tortuous it is.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, So usually if a person gets hives, the first
thing they're going to think is that you're having an
allergic reaction to somebody. And everyone's had that, whether it
be like detergent or something like that, but oftentimes in
some people's cases, they don't know exactly what causes it.
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And this condition affects as many as two point six
million people a year, particularly women. Seventy percent of cases
are women. So it's something that a lot of people
are dealing with, and they don't really know why it happens.
They think it's just because for some reason, your body's
immune system is an overdrive and it's attacking your healthy tissue,
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like it's feeling that something's the threat, and it's attacking
it and causing what would look like an allergic reaction
even though you're not having one now. Sometimes people have
it triggered, so the condition is considered to be over
over six months or over six weeks of time, but
sometimes it has known triggers. For example, drinking alcohol could trigger,
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and some people cold heat, all these different things, these
factors that could if you've heard of people like exercising
and getting it. So when I was a kid, I
used to start. I started getting it when I was
at the bus stop in third grade and I would
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get it and then it would go away. But it
was like very extremely itchy when I got it. And
then they figured out that every single time I was
having cold exposure for some reason, I was getting it.
So I would get it at the bus stop in
the mornings. And it started like around fall time when
it was like that change. Even if it was like
fifty degrees out. It was just like that weird change
would do it, and then I would get it obviously
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in the winter, and it happened for a couple of
years and there was like nothing. The only medication they
gave me for it was something called hydroxyzine or I
think it's something like that, but it's it's like it
made me fall asleep. It was fricking terrible, but that
was the only thing that would like chill it out
a little bit. And then eventually I just grew out
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of it and I and I stopped getting it like that.
I mean, I would look like I had spots all
over my face. It was really obvious. And sometimes now
if I have cold exposure and stuff, I definitely have
like the weird rainods thing happening, and but I rarely
get spots like that that I used to. There's other
people that get triggered by having going from a cold
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environment to the heat, so it's like an opposite thing.
Sometimes sweating causes it, and then just like an emotionally
stressful time in someone's life could also cause it. So
it Fortunately for her, they gave her some medications over
a period of time and eventually it went away. But
the initial time that she had the reaction, they gave
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her steroids and they gave her benajol and stuff, and
like nothing made it go away. And I just would
say that that's similar when I had the polymorphic light
eruption that one time when I was exposed to the
sunlight and I got that itching all over my body,
and like I got oral steroids, steroid cream, like nothing
made it go away, and it was so miserable. Like
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I can't tell you that I would rather be in
physical pain than have to deal with that again. It
just was the most terrible thing ever.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
No, I understand, and I've had nothing even kind of
close to that. But even when I have a lot
of bug bites at one time that won't go away,
it's tortuous. I don't know how. You know, people go
on naked and afraid, for example, and they get bug
bites all over their body.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Like I'd be out immediately.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I couldn't deal with something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, it really is. It really is terrible. So it's
cool that she was talking about it though. All Right,
So this happened pretty close to where we were on
our trip on Interstate ninety five, which is the main
route that we take all the way from New Jersey
down to Florida.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So, yeah, a seventy seven year old man was trying
to save a turtle in the middle of the highway
and ended up getting hit by a car and died.
So the car that hit him did see him and
tried to slow down, but the person behind her did
not see her slowing down, rammed into the back of
her car, which rammed her into the guy.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
This is, like, I just the only thing I could
think is that this guy is in his late seventies
and having some kind of dementia. There's no person in
their right mind that would ever get out of the
car on ninety five and try to help a turtle.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, I mean, obviously this is like something a really
good person would try to do, but to risk your
own life. I mean, ninety five is one of the
busiest roads in the entire country. Yeah, and it was
the middle of the afternoon, I mean busiest time.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, it was like four point thirty at night, like
a rush hour time. It's just the dumbest thing ever.
I mean, obviously he got killed, but then it's like,
now you have a person who killed the person, which
even though it isn't their fault, like you still have
that weighing on your mind. That person, I mean, that
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person hit the guy and then hit the side of
the of the road or the fence on the side
or the barrier, so that person might have severe injuries
that might be lifelong. The other person that hit them
might have severe injuries. Not to mention the fact that
it closed down ninety five for hours on one way,
like it the whole entire thing is just like I
(09:36):
I actually can't even believe that that happened, because when
you're driving on ninety five and you're going like sixty
or seventy miles an hour, how do you even see
a turtle and slow down and pull over enough to
get it? Like it's the whole entire thing is just
so bizarre to me. It is, And they never say
did the turtle survive?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I don't know. The turtle did not survive Jesus, So
the turtle died, the guy dies. I'm thinking, like exactly
like you're saying, you're going so fast, so I assume
he sees it and pulls up and then walks back
along the side of the road, which is dangerous in
itself and then starts walking in the middle of the highway.
I mean, it's just not smart to do something like
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this at all. They even say, when you're driving, if
an animal runs in front of you, you should just
hit it. You should just hit it, Yeah, because you're
risking your life at that point. And it's like, I
know everybody wants to do the right thing, and I'll
try to kill the animal, but like, you're a human
in your life's pretty important, so like you can't risk
your life to save some.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Something like that. Oh my god. It's like, you know,
just being on a road trip for so many days,
it's like you just see all of these habits that
people do that you're just like just especially when you
when you have a tire that's that's off, and like
people are just in the side, like let's say it's
on the driver's side, and they're like in the frickin
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lane changing the tire, and you're just like, dude, this
is how people get killed all the time. Actually, when
we were driving there, this is just a New Jersey,
Like we were seriously ten minutes into our trip, we
weren't even we didn't even cross the Delaware Bridge yet,
Like we were in New Jersey. Still right on the
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side of the road was a big tractor trailer parked
like that had pulled over into the shoulder. Some person
was driving an suv that said school Busts on the
back of it. It was like not an suv like
a mini van and literally went underneath of the truck
like like Jane Mansfield style slammed into the back of
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a truck that was in the shoulder. But like, why
was that person? It's because people are on their phones.
That's the problem, right, Yeah, the car, you're not on
your phone.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You're even like let's just say you even check it
at a light, you're so checked out by the time
you start going back and you're driving.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Or or if you it's just like it's not even
checking your phone like everybody's car, Like I always bitch
about this with my car, Like it's so fricking complicated
to turn the air conditioning on and and like fiddle
with the radio and everything, like your eyes are off
one second. So this person totally slams into the back
of this tractor trailer and we drive by when the
(12:19):
cops had just arrived and there's white sheets, which means
someone's dead. I looked it up. The person died, and
I'm just thinking, like, like, you gotta be really careful
because there's absolutely no reason that that car even came
out of one of the major lanes and hit that truck.
So it's like, even if you pull over and you're
trying to do the safest thing ever, that's still not
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even going to guarantee that you're going to be safe.
But certainly you shouldn't be anywhere near the driving lane
your body like, no, oh my god. And I and
you see so many people doing it, and you're just like,
what the hell are people thinking?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Really, they're just not all right. So last week, a
lion escaped from a farmhouse and pack stand, and on
video it was caught leaping over a fence and mauling
a mother and her two children in front of the owner,
who just stood by and did nothing to help.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah. So so, I mean, part of the reason that
we're telling about this case is because of the next
story that we're going to tell. But like it boils
down to somebody, it doesn't even matter what country you're
living in or whatever, Like people are illegally keeping this animal,
a lion, as a pet, right, Yeah, so this is
(13:30):
what happens when you keep animals like this as pets. Like,
bad shit happens, right, And it's not fair for regular
people to just keep walking around innocently with their children
and some animal that is usually in a zoo or
living in you know, the savannah of Africa, right, being
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in a neighborhood. I mean, just you're walking in your
neighborhood and a lion just jumps over the wall like
what nobody's expecting that.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Well, nobody's expecting it. And then people, because they're not
prepared for these situations because they're not acclimated to these animals,
don't know how to deal with the situation. They are
very lucky in this case they got they were injured,
but nothing life threatening. But of course they start looking
into the guy that owns this and he illegally owns
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the lion and shouldn't have been there in the first place.
So you just put these people in harms bay for
no reason, and then you stand off to the side.
You're the only person in this area equipped to deal
with this thing, allegedly, and you're not even gonna try
to get it off or anything. You're just gonna stand
by and watch it happen, well.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Because he doesn't want to get injured.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Right. Well, the shocking thing for this story was that
the lion was relocated to a wildlife park and not
murdered like they normally are in this situation.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, maybe in America would one hundred percent be like euthanized,
Like yeah, we got him.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
So this this brings us to the next story that
this might a similar situation of might have just happened
in America as well.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So a ring doorbell video went viral that appeared to
show this cougar roaming around the streets of Rochester, New York.
But I guess investigators are first looking into if it's
even true. But there is this incredible news footage of
this man talking about seeing it while he was walking
to a store.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
It really is. It really is gold. It's up there
with like Antoine and hid your kids, Hid your wife?
That was like the old time best news clip. But
this guy was like yeah, it said raar, and he's
like he's like walking around carrying a baseball bag. Listen.
I don't blame him, because like, if you're outside and
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you see an animal like that, I never want to
see a big cat walking around my neighborhood. I'm sorry, Like,
I don't even want to see a dog that's not
on a leash because I'm scared it's going to attack me. Like,
I do not want to think about some weirdo that
decided to have this thing as a pet and now
it's in my neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well, yeah, of course I need to see first of all,
where it even came from, because they said sometimes they
get calls like this and it's typically just a really
large bobcat. But in this case, it's definitely not a bobcat.
And this guy that was on the news is now
walking around with a baseball bet. But what I found
funny about the interview was he was basically saying that
it felt like he was in a movie and that
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somebody was pranking him, so he just kept walking.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I guess he did the right thing. Well, so experts
have looked at the video and said that the cat
seems to be a mountain lion. It has a J
shaped tail that's a long tubular towel with a hook
on the end of it, and they were saying that
this animal is about one hundred and fifty pounds with
sharp claws, large teeth and could really hurt or kill
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a person. And they said that animals aren't around those
parts in New York and that it's highly probable that
it's a pet that someone had that got too big
that they weren't able to take care of anymore.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
It did.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Nobody watched Tiger King.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I mean, we see how horrible that went. And Carol
Baskin and all those people actually remember the other guy
that was like the steampunky guy, the doc antle. He
just went to jail for what I think, I know,
something along the lines of illegally owning animals fraud.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I just don't I don't understand, Like I see all
of these videos of people. I feel like it's in
Russia or something that I've seen a bunch of these
people that just have wild cats like living in their house.
And I understand if you get one as a baby
and you it probably is possible obviously for them to
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be a little bit more docile and be used to
being handled by humans and stuff. But why, I I
just don't understand, And how like you have to be
the most immoral person ever to just be like, you
know what this thing is gonna bite me and it's
ripped up my house and I'm just like gonna let
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it out in the woods. And the thing's probably hungry
right all, Like there's pets around outside and stuff. People
like if it doesn't get food, eventually, it's going to
get food. And it would be a person. Yeah, And
you're like living in a city or like a suburb,
and you're just like, cool, I'm getting attacked by a
(18:30):
cougar right now. It's just outrageous.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So because the two scenarios are it either got out
of the house it was living in or like you're saying,
the person like just dropped it off and was like, oh,
it'll sort itself out and maybe go live in the woods.
But that's not how it works. It's not in its
native environment, so like it doesn't know what to do.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, I and and like as of this recording, that's it.
We don't know where it is. Nobody ever found it
and stuff. Another important Yeah, another important thing to note
is that they said that the zoo has all of
their big cats accounted for, So it's not from the zoo.
That's the only place they could think it would be from.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Well, it's not from a legitimate zoo, but I guarantee
you it's from some shady zoo operation happening in somebody's backyard.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I would feel better about that rather than people that
are just like having it in their house. I mean,
at least they might know something about it. I don't know,
but yeah, Tiger King is a very good example. Also,
even Siegfried and Broy like they had totally trained those
animals and have been very comfortable with them, and it
doesn't matter, like they're their carnivores and they're wild animals
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and they don't understand that they could really hurt you.
This expert saying that this cat's one hundred and fifty pounds,
Like my cat is not even ten pounds. Think about that.
And I got bit by my cat once and it
freaking hurt one hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Like why did she bite you? Oh?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It was when I got home from having my surgery
done years ago, and I was gone for a week,
and I think that really just stressed her out because
I'm like the main person for her. And then I
came home and she was like sitting in my closet
all sad, and then I did the typical thing downstairs
of trying to feed her and stuff, and she wouldn't eat.
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So then I went upstairs and I tried to like
get her to get up to bring her downstairs to eat,
and she bit my hand. That was like the only
time she ever did anything like that. She was just
so emo because I left her.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
She does get so salty when you guys go away,
she really does.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Even when I went to feed her the other day,
she like stares at you like a stalker in the corner.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
While you're like feeding her food.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
You're putting the food in her bowl, and you're like, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Well, when we went on the cruise, Rita said she
didn't come downstairs once the entire time. Every single time
she came in the house, She's like, the food's gone,
so I know she's here, but she won't she won't
even look at me. And then this time though, she said,
she stood at the top of the steps and was
just staring at her.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I look for her when I go there because I
just want to make sure she didn't run outside. Yeah,
but yeah, I mean, I totally understand because she does
come down, but she's like real weird it's not the
normal way she behaves, which is so weird. This episode
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is brought to you by the Grosser Room.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So as we told you guys, we're working on a
two part high profile death dissection on that crazy story
that is surrounded by the show called The Mortician, which
is about the lamb funeral people. Absolutely insane and well
worth your read. The case. Like I said, the case
that we were just talking about reminded me of Siegfried
(21:51):
and Roy. We did a high profile or a celebrity
death dissection on them a few years back. And in
that case, if you were member back in two thousand
and three, that tiger lunched at Roy's next So even
though his official cause of death was COVID, he suffered
from lifelong issues after that tiger attacking his neck. So
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that's a really good dissection, and they lived a really
outrageous life too, so it's really interesting. We also have
a good case this week showing how death investigators can
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So check all that out and more head over to.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
The Grossroom dot com. Now, so this nineteen year old
girl has come out to say that she's addicted to
tanning in the most unusual way. Not only does she
go in tanning beds at least four times a week,
but she also gets tanning injections five times a week.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I didn't know this existed. There has to be some
kind of there definitely has to be some kind of addiction,
because when you're just especially like now in the summer,
when I'm walking around the boardwalk and stuff, it's like
there's definitely people that you could tell like it's the
summer and they're a little tan or they have a
little glow. And then there's people that you look at
they're always young women too, and you're like, that doesn't
(23:08):
look good. You look like a weird skin color. It
doesn't look good at all, And what did you have
to do to achieve that, because that's nowhere near your
natural skin color?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
No, And it's always just a very unnatural hue. And
then you're looking at it and you're like, you know,
their skin has I see it on a lot of
the housewives. Their skin just has this like gross texture
to it from the over usage of the beds and
the exposure.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, it just it looks like it looks leathery, and
it's to me I just think it's like some kind
of dysmorphia in a way that you're not thinking that
you're tan enough and your your body, that you're doing
it over and over to make yourself darker. And even
when you look at this woman that you're talking about
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in this particular article, she she looks weird, like to
the to everyone else that looks they are, they're like
thinking that she looks weird, remember, like tan mom and stuff,
just that weird, overly dark look. It just is so bizarre.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Well, you almost feel bad because when I'm watching this
video of her talk about it, she fully acknowledges that
she's addicted to being tan and that she goes overboard
and she wishes she never even started doing it. And
then she starts talking about the ways in which people
are making fun of her on social media about it,
and it's like it it does make you have some
(24:31):
type of you know, sympathy for her because she's aware
that it's a problem she has, but she just can't stop.
But then clearly the negative feedback she gets is affecting
her a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, I'm sure, and it's and whatever problem is going
on in her head, that's just exacerbating it. But she
she would say that she, I guess and this is
part of the problem too, Like her mom had a
tanning bed at the house that she started using for years,
and then her mom wasn't happy about it, So then
she started going to a tanning salon. And she said
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she would go to the tanning salon four times a
week for fifteen minutes, but when her mom went home,
wasn't home and she was able to use the tanning bed.
She would go in for like twenty or twenty five minutes.
Like Maria said, she was using different creams and getting
some kind of injections for her tan and I mean,
(25:26):
she she regrets it now, but she's going to regret
it a lot later in life because she has such
a higher risk of getting skin cancer now. Well yeah,
and she was already saying that since she started doing it,
she just has these moles all over her body that
she never had before. And she was showing one on
her stomach in particular that she said looked really weird.
(25:46):
And I'm just like, please go to the doctor and
try to chase She just like really has ruined a
portion of her life, honestly, Like it's if you think
about I mean, we've had We've talked about some famous
people like Chloe kardashi and Teddy Mellencamp both have said
that they were using sun tanned beds, putting baby oil
(26:07):
on iodine to tan their skin. Teddy Mellencamp is like
on the outs with stage four metastatic melanoma to her brain.
Right now, Chloe Kardashian seems like she, I mean, she
had a major reception of her face. Seems to be
okay for now, But melanoma is like one of those
ugly ones that could pop up like later in life,
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and it's really terrible when it pops up again. Indoor
tanning is considered to be one of the most dangerous
environmental risk factors for cancer, like worse than cigarettes. If
you could believe it or not.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Well, I couldn't believe that. She said that if she
started getting wrinkles, that would probably encourage her to stop.
And I'm like, not the moles all over your.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Body like I would be, And she might not get
wrinkled for a while. Isn't she a teenager? She's nineteen
years old. Like, even if she goes and gets tanned
like that, she might not get wrinkled for years, and
she does not need to do this for more years.
So the tanning bed increases the risk of melanoma three
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times as much if you use it over fifty hours
in your life. Fifty hours in your life, and she's
using it in a week. It's so scary because the
beds admit ten to fifteen times higher UV radiation than
the sun does when it's at its peak, so that
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radiation is causing DNA damage to the cells, which can
lead to cancer, can lead to atypical cells, and it
could lead to cancer. But they're saying that if you've
had your first exposures to indoor tanning before the age
of thirty five, it's associated with a seventy five percent
increase risk of skin cancer, particularly melanoma, which is the
(27:55):
worst one.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
So what about the tanning injections because I saw that,
But she was saying that she saw a person on
Facebook advertising them and that's when she decided to get them.
And a big question I have too is like, I
know she has the tanning bed at her house, but
she said she's also going to a salon and then
she's getting these injections. Where is she getting all the money,
Like is she working a job to pay for it
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herself or are her parents giving it to her? Because
in my mind, she's saying it upsets her mom how
much she's using the tanning bed, But if they are
giving her the funds to do it, they're not really
preventing her from doing it.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yeah, And like, honestly, if I'm that kid's mom, I
mean I wouldn't have a tanning bed anyway, but like,
get rid of it. Your kid obviously has a problem.
I mean she's nineteen. She I had a job for
like three or four years by the time I was nineteen,
Like she could have her own money. My kids have
their own money from saving their allowance.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Like I just feel like it's so expensive to go
to a salon. And then these injections are so weird
to me. I've never heard about them before. I hope
she's not getting them through the person on Facebook. But
what legitimate person would be offering something like this?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So I was just looking this up on my phone.
We talked about this before we started mother nos Death
on my Heart about a self tanning nasal spray. Do
you remember that?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, yeah, and it was called Melano tan, and it
was a chemical that was a similar hormone to making
melanin in the skin, and it had I guess it
was originally discovered to be an erectile dysfunction drug, but
somehow it also darkens the skin, so people were using
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it as to give themselves a tan. I'm not the
doctor that one of the doctors working on the drug
injected it in himself and had a two hour erection,
So I don't it is injectable apparently. I don't know
if he was injecting that, or if she was injecting this,
or what is this? Is this in America this case? No,
(29:57):
it's in the UK, Yeah, So I don't know, like
what medication that they have available over there. But all
of that drug also increases your risk of getting melanoma,
So I'm not exactly sure. Like she's she's just like
really living an unhealthy life and someone needs to intervene
because it's really sad.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
So what you're saying is, if you see a really
tanned man out there, he's potentially on a naseless pray
for rect how at this function.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I don't think that that's here either, honestly, But it
just seems irresponsible.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I don't know, Like I feel bad because she acknowledges
the problem, but she doesn't know how to get out
of it. And it's a very unusual addiction to have.
I mean, what do you even do for this? Is
she go to rehab? Like?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
What can you do? The same thing when you have
a sex addiction or something like that. There's there's different
therapies and ways around it, maybe medications. She's having a
form of body dysmorphia for sure. Yeah, just because you
feel like that in general, like when not not to
say me or anybody else is like the person that
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makes the decision of who looks normal and who doesn't.
It looks like she's hurting herself doing this. It's the
same thing when you see people have crazy extreme plastic
surgeries or body modifications in any kind of way. It's
just along the same line. So however they would treat that. See,
this would be a good question for doctor Angie Arnold
(31:23):
that we met this week. Who I love her, She's outrageous.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
We'll try to get it on. Yeah, all right, explain
this vaginal hay fever.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I never even thought of this, but apparently because your
vage is lined with the same kind of tissue as
your mouth and nose. Your body could act similarly to
when you have like allergic rhinitis or any kind of
hay fever. You know when your nose is like running
all the time and it's very itchy, And a reason
for that is because it just it's just very like engorged,
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Like it just you know that feeling when you're on
the verge of sneeze all the time and it's just
very active. I guess the same thing could happen to
your vagina. So it either could happen from being exposed
to an allergen and it going through your entire body,
or for your vagina to be I mean, this is
less likely, at least in my situation, for your vadge
(32:18):
to be exposed to pollen. Like not to say that
other people aren't, because I'm sure they are, but so
you could have a direct exposure as well that could
give you symptoms of itching and uncomfortable badge. I just
I really never even thought about it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
No, I definitely never did either, But now that you're
explaining it, that obviously makes sense. But I think that
maybe it's not as common because people are clothed down
there where your face is not clothed, so you're being
exposed to it all the time.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
You could put itchy badge up there with one of
the most torturous things as well. Honestly, Yeah, And I
found it interesting in this article because they were saying
vaginal is in general are often quote dismissed, misdiagnosed, or internalized,
is something women should just put up with, And I'm like, yeah,
with every other issue we have down there, you know,
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now it is a diet for this thing get blown off.
I had I don't know what happened when I was
in my very young twenties that I had like this
itching problem that wouldn't go away, and it was like
not yeast infection and stuff. And then finally I switched
to a very gentle soap, which now I'm like hardcore
have used every day since I've been twenty years old,
and it never came back, but it was. It was terrible,
(33:34):
And I do remember going I mean this would back
in they're early they're early two thousands or the late nineties,
but I remember going to the doctor and them just
being like, oh, it's whatever, like not, and I'm like, no, listen,
like this needs to be dealt with because I can't
handle this. It's it's torture. And once you know you're
(33:55):
so sensitive down there, once you're inflamed, it's just like,
oh my god, got it. I remember that being the
worst thing ever. And I guess I was just having
a sensitivity to soap right because I didn't really think
about using a harsh perfume soap detergent down there would
do that, but that that was ultimately what it was.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
But okay, well, on that note, don't forget. We are
going to Crime Con in Denver this September. We were
very excited. We're doing a live podcast show. You are
going to be doing a lecture. Believe, we're doing a
meet and greet two one day, so there's lots of
stuff to happen, and you get to see everybody else
in the true crime world, like Matt Murphy, Cheryl McCollum.
(34:37):
You know these people have been on our show, Joseph
Scott Morgan. You could also visit our great friend Tom
Smith from the gold Shields. Yeah, he's gonna have a booth,
such a good time.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I'm like happy to like hang out with all of
our friends in one sitting. It's going to be amazing.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah. I mean we're personally so because we get to
see a lot of our friends. But if you guys
are interested in true crime, you get to see everybody
that's there, and the lectures are alway. It is amazing.
It's always a good time. You get to see anybody,
you could get to hear topics. I don't know what
the top is you're gonna be last year, but I
heard topics ranging from you know, like the Nexium cult
to the rush shooting.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
You said that cool crime scene drawling workshop or what
was it? Yeah, they did an artist They did a
sip and drawl with a forenzic sketch. Yeah, courtroom sketch artist.
So I got to do that, which was a blast,
and he went around the room making fun of people
or telling him if they did a.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Good job, and it was truly so awesome. So I
hope they do something like that again because you missed it,
but I think you would even enjoy it too.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, that was wasn't that Like right after my lecture,
I just needed to decompressed.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we
are going to be talking about an actress who had
a medical condition that lots of people have, particularly women
who suffer with it is not very serious, but it
could be described as torture. A man who was killed
and put lives at risk trying to save an animal,
the dangers of keeping a big cat as a pet,
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suntan addiction, and hay fever of the vagina. All right,
let's get started with this actress.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Like, you're not saying this is serious, but this is
a personal form of hell, I would think.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
So I'm saying it's not serious in in the sense
of like you're not going to die from it, but
I will. Yes, I've had this and it's hell.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
All right, a pinnet point because I want to get
back to that, Okay. Vicky Lawrence, who was an actress
known for her role in The Carol Burnett Show. She
woke up one morning in August of twenty twelve with
itchy hands, and you know, it was unusual, but she
didn't think too much of it. She even made a
joke to her husband that they should buy lottery tickets
because she thought they were going to be coming into
some serious money because of you know that myth that
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if your hands age. So over time the hives got
worse and within the next couple of days they were
covering her entire body. All right, you know who this woman?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
This is actually really bizarre because me and Gabe on
our road trip we were talking about eighties like shows
that we used to watch in the eighties, and one
of them, I was like, do you remember that show
called Mama and It, And that's who she is. She's
the Mama Lady. She played like a really old grandma
lady that was crotchety but hilarious, and I guess it
(02:01):
was like a spin off of a Carabournett. This is
like no one that was born before, Like you, you
probably have no idea what it is, but like I know,
some people listening know what I'm talking about, So that's
who we're talking about. Also side note, she's seventy six
years old and she looks awesome.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh my god, I didn't even realize she was that old. Yeah,
she does look amazing. Was Rue McClanahan in that show, though,
she was.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
She was in it. I don't know if she was
in it all the time, but she definitely was. She
was in it for sure.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Okay, because I feel like I was. I feel like
I was watching CNN has this show called like History
of the Sitcom or something, and I feel like it
was on there and I saw Rue McClanahan. I was like,
I don't know that show. I really don't know anything
Rue McLanahan was in besides Golden Girl.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
No. It was. It was really funny and I used
to watch it as a kid. So it just was
weird that that I was talking about this particular show
a couple of days ago and now we're talking about
this lady again. But anyway, you guys should check that
out if.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
You have that thing that I have dreams about.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, exactly dies. So she has a condition called chronic
spontaneous urticaria, and that is just a fancy word for
saying that she has hives, and they don't know what
calls it, and it they're not going away initially. So
the reason that I say that this is torture is
because when whenever you've had hives, they itch so bad,
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and if you can't take medication to make it go away.
Having a chronic itch like that that is also that
gross like swelling itch. It's really it's torture that you
cannot you cannot alleviate the itch, and it is enough
to drive someone crazy.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Okay, So this was reminding me of that story we
had I guess a couple of months ago about that
woman who is pregnant and ended up taking her life.
And you know, I understand you're saying it's not a
serious condition in the sense of like it's like cancer
and they'll die from it. But when you're getting tortured
with something that badly, I could see how it could
take a mental toll on you and force you to
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take drastic measures because of how tortuous it is.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, So usually if a person gets hives, the first
thing they're going to think is that you're having an
allergic reaction to somebody. And everyone's had that, whether it
be like detergent or something like that, but oftentimes in
some people's cases, they don't know exactly what causes it.
(04:28):
And this condition affects as many as two point six
million people a year, particularly women. Seventy percent of cases
are women. So it's something that a lot of people
are dealing with, and they don't really know why it happens.
They think it's just because for some reason, your body's
immune system is an overdrive and it's attacking your healthy tissue,
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like it's feeling that something's the threat, and it's attacking
it and causing what would look like an allergic reaction
even though you're not having one now. Sometimes people have
it triggered, so the condition is considered to be over
over six months or over six weeks of time, but
sometimes it has known triggers. For example, drinking alcohol could trigger,
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and some people cold heat, all these different things, these
factors that could if you've heard of people like exercising
and getting it. So when I was a kid, I
used to start. I started getting it when I was
at the bus stop in third grade and I would
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get it and then it would go away. But it
was like very extremely itchy when I got it. And
then they figured out that every single time I was
having cold exposure for some reason, I was getting it.
So I would get it at the bus stop in
the mornings. And it started like around fall time when
it was like that change. Even if it was like
fifty degrees out. It was just like that weird change
would do it, and then I would get it obviously
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in the winter, and it happened for a couple of
years and there was like nothing. The only medication they
gave me for it was something called hydroxyzine or I
think it's something like that, but it's it's like it
made me fall asleep. It was fricking terrible, but that
was the only thing that would like chill it out
a little bit. And then eventually I just grew out
(06:18):
of it and I and I stopped getting it like that.
I mean, I would look like I had spots all
over my face. It was really obvious. And sometimes now
if I have cold exposure and stuff, I definitely have
like the weird rainods thing happening, and but I rarely
get spots like that that I used to. There's other
people that get triggered by having going from a cold
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environment to the heat, so it's like an opposite thing.
Sometimes sweating causes it, and then just like an emotionally
stressful time in someone's life could also cause it. So
it Fortunately for her, they gave her some medications over
a period of time and eventually it went away. But
the initial time that she had the reaction, they gave
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her steroids and they gave her benajol and stuff, and
like nothing made it go away. And I just would
say that that's similar when I had the polymorphic light
eruption that one time when I was exposed to the
sunlight and I got that itching all over my body,
and like I got oral steroids, steroid cream, like nothing
made it go away, and it was so miserable. Like
(07:24):
I can't tell you that I would rather be in
physical pain than have to deal with that again. It
just was the most terrible thing ever.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
No, I understand, and I've had nothing even kind of
close to that. But even when I have a lot
of bug bites at one time that won't go away,
it's tortuous. I don't know how. You know, people go
on naked and afraid, for example, and they get bug
bites all over their body.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Like I'd be out immediately.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I couldn't deal with something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, it really is. It really is terrible. So it's
cool that she was talking about it though. All Right,
So this happened pretty close to where we were on
our trip on Interstate ninety five, which is the main
route that we take all the way from New Jersey
down to Florida.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So, yeah, a seventy seven year old man was trying
to save a turtle in the middle of the highway
and ended up getting hit by a car and died.
So the car that hit him did see him and
tried to slow down, but the person behind her did
not see her slowing down, rammed into the back of
her car, which rammed her into the guy.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
This is, like, I just the only thing I could
think is that this guy is in his late seventies
and having some kind of dementia. There's no person in
their right mind that would ever get out of the
car on ninety five and try to help a turtle.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, I mean, obviously this is like something a really
good person would try to do, but to risk your
own life. I mean, ninety five is one of the
busiest roads in the entire country. Yeah, and it was
the middle of the afternoon, I mean busiest time.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, it was like four point thirty at night, like
a rush hour time. It's just the dumbest thing ever.
I mean, obviously he got killed, but then it's like,
now you have a person who killed the person, which
even though it isn't their fault, like you still have
that weighing on your mind. That person, I mean, that
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person hit the guy and then hit the side of
the of the road or the fence on the side
or the barrier, so that person might have severe injuries
that might be lifelong. The other person that hit them
might have severe injuries. Not to mention the fact that
it closed down ninety five for hours on one way,
like it the whole entire thing is just like I
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I actually can't even believe that that happened, because when
you're driving on ninety five and you're going like sixty
or seventy miles an hour, how do you even see
a turtle and slow down and pull over enough to
get it? Like it's the whole entire thing is just
so bizarre to me. It is, And they never say
did the turtle survive?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I don't know. The turtle did not survive Jesus, So
the turtle died, the guy dies. I'm thinking, like exactly
like you're saying, you're going so fast, so I assume
he sees it and pulls up and then walks back
along the side of the road, which is dangerous in
itself and then starts walking in the middle of the highway.
I mean, it's just not smart to do something like
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this at all. They even say, when you're driving, if
an animal runs in front of you, you should just
hit it. You should just hit it, Yeah, because you're
risking your life at that point. And it's like, I
know everybody wants to do the right thing, and I'll
try to kill the animal, but like, you're a human
in your life's pretty important, so like you can't risk
your life to save some.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Something like that. Oh my god. It's like, you know,
just being on a road trip for so many days,
it's like you just see all of these habits that
people do that you're just like just especially when you
when you have a tire that's that's off, and like
people are just in the side, like let's say it's
on the driver's side, and they're like in the frickin
(11:00):
lane changing the tire, and you're just like, dude, this
is how people get killed all the time. Actually, when
we were driving there, this is just a New Jersey,
Like we were seriously ten minutes into our trip, we
weren't even we didn't even cross the Delaware Bridge yet,
Like we were in New Jersey. Still right on the
(11:20):
side of the road was a big tractor trailer parked
like that had pulled over into the shoulder. Some person
was driving an suv that said school Busts on the
back of it. It was like not an suv like
a mini van and literally went underneath of the truck
like like Jane Mansfield style slammed into the back of
(11:43):
a truck that was in the shoulder. But like, why
was that person? It's because people are on their phones.
That's the problem, right, Yeah, the car, you're not on
your phone.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You're even like let's just say you even check it
at a light, you're so checked out by the time
you start going back and you're driving.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Or or if you it's just like it's not even
checking your phone like everybody's car, Like I always bitch
about this with my car, Like it's so fricking complicated
to turn the air conditioning on and and like fiddle
with the radio and everything, like your eyes are off
one second. So this person totally slams into the back
of this tractor trailer and we drive by when the
(12:19):
cops had just arrived and there's white sheets, which means
someone's dead. I looked it up. The person died, and
I'm just thinking, like, like, you gotta be really careful
because there's absolutely no reason that that car even came
out of one of the major lanes and hit that truck.
So it's like, even if you pull over and you're
trying to do the safest thing ever, that's still not
(12:40):
even going to guarantee that you're going to be safe.
But certainly you shouldn't be anywhere near the driving lane
your body like, no, oh my god. And I and
you see so many people doing it, and you're just like,
what the hell are people thinking?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Really, they're just not all right. So last week, a
lion escaped from a farmhouse and pack stand, and on
video it was caught leaping over a fence and mauling
a mother and her two children in front of the owner,
who just stood by and did nothing to help.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah. So so, I mean, part of the reason that
we're telling about this case is because of the next
story that we're going to tell. But like it boils
down to somebody, it doesn't even matter what country you're
living in or whatever, Like people are illegally keeping this animal,
a lion, as a pet, right, Yeah, so this is
(13:30):
what happens when you keep animals like this as pets. Like,
bad shit happens, right, And it's not fair for regular
people to just keep walking around innocently with their children
and some animal that is usually in a zoo or
living in you know, the savannah of Africa, right, being
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in a neighborhood. I mean, just you're walking in your
neighborhood and a lion just jumps over the wall like
what nobody's expecting that.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Well, nobody's expecting it. And then people, because they're not
prepared for these situations because they're not acclimated to these animals,
don't know how to deal with the situation. They are
very lucky in this case they got they were injured,
but nothing life threatening. But of course they start looking
into the guy that owns this and he illegally owns
(14:21):
the lion and shouldn't have been there in the first place.
So you just put these people in harms bay for
no reason, and then you stand off to the side.
You're the only person in this area equipped to deal
with this thing, allegedly, and you're not even gonna try
to get it off or anything. You're just gonna stand
by and watch it happen, well.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Because he doesn't want to get injured.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Right. Well, the shocking thing for this story was that
the lion was relocated to a wildlife park and not
murdered like they normally are in this situation.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, maybe in America would one hundred percent be like euthanized,
Like yeah, we got him.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
All right.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
So this this brings us to the next story that
this might a similar situation of might have just happened
in America as well.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So a ring doorbell video went viral that appeared to
show this cougar roaming around the streets of Rochester, New York.
But I guess investigators are first looking into if it's
even true. But there is this incredible news footage of
this man talking about seeing it while he was walking
to a store.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
It really is. It really is gold. It's up there
with like Antoine and hid your kids, Hid your wife?
That was like the old time best news clip. But
this guy was like yeah, it said raar, and he's
like he's like walking around carrying a baseball bag. Listen.
I don't blame him, because like, if you're outside and
(15:47):
you see an animal like that, I never want to
see a big cat walking around my neighborhood. I'm sorry, Like,
I don't even want to see a dog that's not
on a leash because I'm scared it's going to attack me. Like,
I do not want to think about some weirdo that
decided to have this thing as a pet and now
it's in my neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well, yeah, of course I need to see first of all,
where it even came from, because they said sometimes they
get calls like this and it's typically just a really
large bobcat. But in this case, it's definitely not a bobcat.
And this guy that was on the news is now
walking around with a baseball bet. But what I found
funny about the interview was he was basically saying that
it felt like he was in a movie and that
(16:27):
somebody was pranking him, so he just kept walking.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I guess he did the right thing. Well, so experts
have looked at the video and said that the cat
seems to be a mountain lion. It has a J
shaped tail that's a long tubular towel with a hook
on the end of it, and they were saying that
this animal is about one hundred and fifty pounds with
sharp claws, large teeth and could really hurt or kill
(16:52):
a person. And they said that animals aren't around those
parts in New York and that it's highly probable that
it's a pet that someone had that got too big
that they weren't able to take care of anymore.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
It did.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Nobody watched Tiger King.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I mean, we see how horrible that went. And Carol
Baskin and all those people actually remember the other guy
that was like the steampunky guy, the doc antle. He
just went to jail for what I think, I know,
something along the lines of illegally owning animals fraud.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I just don't I don't understand, Like I see all
of these videos of people. I feel like it's in
Russia or something that I've seen a bunch of these
people that just have wild cats like living in their house.
And I understand if you get one as a baby
and you it probably is possible obviously for them to
(17:48):
be a little bit more docile and be used to
being handled by humans and stuff. But why, I I
just don't understand, And how like you have to be
the most immoral person ever to just be like, you
know what this thing is gonna bite me and it's
ripped up my house and I'm just like gonna let
(18:09):
it out in the woods. And the thing's probably hungry
right all, Like there's pets around outside and stuff. People
like if it doesn't get food, eventually, it's going to
get food. And it would be a person. Yeah, And
you're like living in a city or like a suburb,
and you're just like, cool, I'm getting attacked by a
(18:30):
cougar right now. It's just outrageous.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So because the two scenarios are it either got out
of the house it was living in or like you're saying,
the person like just dropped it off and was like, oh,
it'll sort itself out and maybe go live in the woods.
But that's not how it works. It's not in its
native environment, so like it doesn't know what to do.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, I and and like as of this recording, that's it.
We don't know where it is. Nobody ever found it
and stuff. Another important Yeah, another important thing to note
is that they said that the zoo has all of
their big cats accounted for, So it's not from the zoo.
That's the only place they could think it would be from.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Well, it's not from a legitimate zoo, but I guarantee
you it's from some shady zoo operation happening in somebody's backyard.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I would feel better about that rather than people that
are just like having it in their house. I mean,
at least they might know something about it. I don't know,
but yeah, Tiger King is a very good example. Also,
even Siegfried and Broy like they had totally trained those
animals and have been very comfortable with them, and it
doesn't matter, like they're their carnivores and they're wild animals
(19:38):
and they don't understand that they could really hurt you.
This expert saying that this cat's one hundred and fifty pounds,
Like my cat is not even ten pounds. Think about that.
And I got bit by my cat once and it
freaking hurt one hundred and fifty pounds.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Like why did she bite you? Oh?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It was when I got home from having my surgery
done years ago, and I was gone for a week,
and I think that really just stressed her out because
I'm like the main person for her. And then I
came home and she was like sitting in my closet
all sad, and then I did the typical thing downstairs
of trying to feed her and stuff, and she wouldn't eat.
(20:21):
So then I went upstairs and I tried to like
get her to get up to bring her downstairs to eat,
and she bit my hand. That was like the only
time she ever did anything like that. She was just
so emo because I left her.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
She does get so salty when you guys go away,
she really does.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Even when I went to feed her the other day,
she like stares at you like a stalker in the corner.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
While you're like feeding her food.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
You're putting the food in her bowl, and you're like, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Well, when we went on the cruise, Rita said she
didn't come downstairs once the entire time. Every single time
she came in the house, She's like, the food's gone,
so I know she's here, but she won't she won't
even look at me. And then this time though, she said,
she stood at the top of the steps and was
just staring at her.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I look for her when I go there because I
just want to make sure she didn't run outside. Yeah,
but yeah, I mean, I totally understand because she does
come down, but she's like real weird it's not the
normal way she behaves, which is so weird. This episode
(21:28):
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Speaker 1 (21:30):
So as we told you guys, we're working on a
two part high profile death dissection on that crazy story
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is about the lamb funeral people. Absolutely insane and well
worth your read. The case. Like I said, the case
that we were just talking about reminded me of Siegfried
(21:51):
and Roy. We did a high profile or a celebrity
death dissection on them a few years back. And in
that case, if you were member back in two thousand
and three, that tiger lunched at Roy's next So even
though his official cause of death was COVID, he suffered
from lifelong issues after that tiger attacking his neck. So
(22:14):
that's a really good dissection, and they lived a really
outrageous life too, so it's really interesting. We also have
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So check all that out and more head over to.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
The Grossroom dot com. Now, so this nineteen year old
girl has come out to say that she's addicted to
tanning in the most unusual way. Not only does she
go in tanning beds at least four times a week,
but she also gets tanning injections five times a week.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I didn't know this existed. There has to be some
kind of there definitely has to be some kind of addiction,
because when you're just especially like now in the summer,
when I'm walking around the boardwalk and stuff, it's like
there's definitely people that you could tell like it's the
summer and they're a little tan or they have a
little glow. And then there's people that you look at
they're always young women too, and you're like, that doesn't
(23:08):
look good. You look like a weird skin color. It
doesn't look good at all, And what did you have
to do to achieve that, because that's nowhere near your
natural skin color?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
No, And it's always just a very unnatural hue. And
then you're looking at it and you're like, you know,
their skin has I see it on a lot of
the housewives. Their skin just has this like gross texture
to it from the over usage of the beds and
the exposure.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, it just it looks like it looks leathery, and
it's to me I just think it's like some kind
of dysmorphia in a way that you're not thinking that
you're tan enough and your your body, that you're doing
it over and over to make yourself darker. And even
when you look at this woman that you're talking about
(23:55):
in this particular article, she she looks weird, like to
the to everyone else that looks they are, they're like
thinking that she looks weird, remember, like tan mom and stuff,
just that weird, overly dark look. It just is so bizarre.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Well, you almost feel bad because when I'm watching this
video of her talk about it, she fully acknowledges that
she's addicted to being tan and that she goes overboard
and she wishes she never even started doing it. And
then she starts talking about the ways in which people
are making fun of her on social media about it,
and it's like it it does make you have some
(24:31):
type of you know, sympathy for her because she's aware
that it's a problem she has, but she just can't stop.
But then clearly the negative feedback she gets is affecting
her a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, I'm sure, and it's and whatever problem is going
on in her head, that's just exacerbating it. But she
she would say that she, I guess and this is
part of the problem too, Like her mom had a
tanning bed at the house that she started using for years,
and then her mom wasn't happy about it, So then
she started going to a tanning salon. And she said
(25:05):
she would go to the tanning salon four times a
week for fifteen minutes, but when her mom went home,
wasn't home and she was able to use the tanning bed.
She would go in for like twenty or twenty five minutes.
Like Maria said, she was using different creams and getting
some kind of injections for her tan and I mean,
(25:26):
she she regrets it now, but she's going to regret
it a lot later in life because she has such
a higher risk of getting skin cancer now. Well yeah,
and she was already saying that since she started doing it,
she just has these moles all over her body that
she never had before. And she was showing one on
her stomach in particular that she said looked really weird.
(25:46):
And I'm just like, please go to the doctor and
try to chase She just like really has ruined a
portion of her life, honestly, Like it's if you think
about I mean, we've had We've talked about some famous
people like Chloe kardashi and Teddy Mellencamp both have said
that they were using sun tanned beds, putting baby oil
(26:07):
on iodine to tan their skin. Teddy Mellencamp is like
on the outs with stage four metastatic melanoma to her brain.
Right now, Chloe Kardashian seems like she, I mean, she
had a major reception of her face. Seems to be
okay for now, But melanoma is like one of those
ugly ones that could pop up like later in life,
(26:30):
and it's really terrible when it pops up again. Indoor
tanning is considered to be one of the most dangerous
environmental risk factors for cancer, like worse than cigarettes. If
you could believe it or not.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Well, I couldn't believe that. She said that if she
started getting wrinkles, that would probably encourage her to stop.
And I'm like, not the moles all over your.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Body like I would be, And she might not get
wrinkled for a while. Isn't she a teenager? She's nineteen
years old. Like, even if she goes and gets tanned
like that, she might not get wrinkled for years, and
she does not need to do this for more years.
So the tanning bed increases the risk of melanoma three
(27:15):
times as much if you use it over fifty hours
in your life. Fifty hours in your life, and she's
using it in a week. It's so scary because the
beds admit ten to fifteen times higher UV radiation than
the sun does when it's at its peak, so that
(27:35):
radiation is causing DNA damage to the cells, which can
lead to cancer, can lead to atypical cells, and it
could lead to cancer. But they're saying that if you've
had your first exposures to indoor tanning before the age
of thirty five, it's associated with a seventy five percent
increase risk of skin cancer, particularly melanoma, which is the
(27:55):
worst one.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
So what about the tanning injections because I saw that,
But she was saying that she saw a person on
Facebook advertising them and that's when she decided to get them.
And a big question I have too is like, I
know she has the tanning bed at her house, but
she said she's also going to a salon and then
she's getting these injections. Where is she getting all the money,
Like is she working a job to pay for it
(28:19):
herself or are her parents giving it to her? Because
in my mind, she's saying it upsets her mom how
much she's using the tanning bed, But if they are
giving her the funds to do it, they're not really
preventing her from doing it.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yeah, And like, honestly, if I'm that kid's mom, I
mean I wouldn't have a tanning bed anyway, but like,
get rid of it. Your kid obviously has a problem.
I mean she's nineteen. She I had a job for
like three or four years by the time I was nineteen,
Like she could have her own money. My kids have
their own money from saving their allowance.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Like I just feel like it's so expensive to go
to a salon. And then these injections are so weird
to me. I've never heard about them before. I hope
she's not getting them through the person on Facebook. But
what legitimate person would be offering something like this?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So I was just looking this up on my phone.
We talked about this before we started mother nos Death
on my Heart about a self tanning nasal spray. Do
you remember that?
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, yeah, and it was called Melano tan, and it
was a chemical that was a similar hormone to making
melanin in the skin, and it had I guess it
was originally discovered to be an erectile dysfunction drug, but
somehow it also darkens the skin, so people were using
(29:36):
it as to give themselves a tan. I'm not the
doctor that one of the doctors working on the drug
injected it in himself and had a two hour erection,
So I don't it is injectable apparently. I don't know
if he was injecting that, or if she was injecting this,
or what is this? Is this in America this case? No,
(29:57):
it's in the UK, Yeah, So I don't know, like
what medication that they have available over there. But all
of that drug also increases your risk of getting melanoma,
So I'm not exactly sure. Like she's she's just like
really living an unhealthy life and someone needs to intervene
because it's really sad.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
So what you're saying is, if you see a really
tanned man out there, he's potentially on a naseless pray
for rect how at this function.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I don't think that that's here either, honestly, But it
just seems irresponsible.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
I don't know, Like I feel bad because she acknowledges
the problem, but she doesn't know how to get out
of it. And it's a very unusual addiction to have.
I mean, what do you even do for this? Is
she go to rehab? Like?
Speaker 1 (30:42):
What can you do? The same thing when you have
a sex addiction or something like that. There's there's different
therapies and ways around it, maybe medications. She's having a
form of body dysmorphia for sure. Yeah, just because you
feel like that in general, like when not not to
say me or anybody else is like the person that
(31:03):
makes the decision of who looks normal and who doesn't.
It looks like she's hurting herself doing this. It's the
same thing when you see people have crazy extreme plastic
surgeries or body modifications in any kind of way. It's
just along the same line. So however they would treat that. See,
this would be a good question for doctor Angie Arnold
(31:23):
that we met this week. Who I love her, She's outrageous.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
We'll try to get it on. Yeah, all right, explain
this vaginal hay fever.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
I never even thought of this, but apparently because your
vage is lined with the same kind of tissue as
your mouth and nose. Your body could act similarly to
when you have like allergic rhinitis or any kind of
hay fever. You know when your nose is like running
all the time and it's very itchy, And a reason
for that is because it just it's just very like engorged,
(31:56):
Like it just you know that feeling when you're on
the verge of sneeze all the time and it's just
very active. I guess the same thing could happen to
your vagina. So it either could happen from being exposed
to an allergen and it going through your entire body,
or for your vagina to be I mean, this is
less likely, at least in my situation, for your vadge
(32:18):
to be exposed to pollen. Like not to say that
other people aren't, because I'm sure they are, but so
you could have a direct exposure as well that could
give you symptoms of itching and uncomfortable badge. I just
I really never even thought about it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
No, I definitely never did either, But now that you're
explaining it, that obviously makes sense. But I think that
maybe it's not as common because people are clothed down
there where your face is not clothed, so you're being
exposed to it all the time.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
You could put itchy badge up there with one of
the most torturous things as well. Honestly, Yeah, And I
found it interesting in this article because they were saying
vaginal is in general are often quote dismissed, misdiagnosed, or internalized,
is something women should just put up with, And I'm like, yeah,
with every other issue we have down there, you know,
(33:10):
now it is a diet for this thing get blown off.
I had I don't know what happened when I was
in my very young twenties that I had like this
itching problem that wouldn't go away, and it was like
not yeast infection and stuff. And then finally I switched
to a very gentle soap, which now I'm like hardcore
have used every day since I've been twenty years old,
and it never came back, but it was. It was terrible,
(33:34):
And I do remember going I mean this would back
in they're early they're early two thousands or the late nineties,
but I remember going to the doctor and them just
being like, oh, it's whatever, like not, and I'm like, no, listen,
like this needs to be dealt with because I can't
handle this. It's it's torture. And once you know you're
(33:55):
so sensitive down there, once you're inflamed, it's just like,
oh my god, got it. I remember that being the
worst thing ever. And I guess I was just having
a sensitivity to soap right because I didn't really think
about using a harsh perfume soap detergent down there would
do that, but that that was ultimately what it was.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
But okay, well, on that note, don't forget. We are
going to Crime Con in Denver this September. We were
very excited. We're doing a live podcast show. You are
going to be doing a lecture. Believe, we're doing a
meet and greet two one day, so there's lots of
stuff to happen, and you get to see everybody else
in the true crime world, like Matt Murphy, Cheryl McCollum.
(34:37):
You know these people have been on our show, Joseph
Scott Morgan. You could also visit our great friend Tom
Smith from the gold Shields. Yeah, he's gonna have a booth,
such a good time.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
I'm like happy to like hang out with all of
our friends in one sitting. It's going to be amazing.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Yeah. I mean we're personally so because we get to
see a lot of our friends. But if you guys
are interested in true crime, you get to see everybody
that's there, and the lectures are alway. It is amazing.
It's always a good time. You get to see anybody,
you could get to hear topics. I don't know what
the top is you're gonna be last year, but I
heard topics ranging from you know, like the Nexium cult
to the rush shooting.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
You said that cool crime scene drawling workshop or what
was it? Yeah, they did an artist They did a
sip and drawl with a forenzic sketch. Yeah, courtroom sketch artist.
So I got to do that, which was a blast,
and he went around the room making fun of people
or telling him if they did a.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Good job, and it was truly so awesome. So I
hope they do something like that again because you missed it,
but I think you would even enjoy it too.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, that was wasn't that Like right after my lecture,
I just needed to decompressed.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, so grab tickets for Crime kind You guys definitely
don't want to miss that. If you have a review
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Thank you for listening to Mother nos Death. As a reminder,
my training is as a pathologist's assistant. I have a
master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.
I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed
or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of
a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social
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