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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about a lawsuit involving a Hawaii five
oh actor's untimely death, a morning show host that fell
flat on her face on live TV, a man who
was looking for his brother in the jaws of a crocodile,
kids forced to eat cat poop, and what is beauty
parlor syndrome? All that and more on today's episode, Let's
(00:44):
get started with this Hawaii five zero actor.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So last year, actor and former sumo wrestler Taylor Touley
Wiley suddenly died at fifty six years old, and now
his family is filing a lawsuit claiming he suffered fatal
injuries after he he was dropped in a wheelchair by
a Las Vegas medical transport company. This is a really
interesting thing to talk about because this guy, even though
(01:10):
he was very young, he had a very different body,
which was that he was very morbidly obese, and he
weighed over four hundred pounds.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And to think about a person that weighs that much
that also has a wheelchair. So the wheelchair has to
be a bariatric wheelchair, which will be larger, and depending
on if it was an electric scooter type of wheelchair
versus a regular wheelchair, would depend on the weight, but
that could put a lot of extra weight on it too.
(01:40):
And I guess the question would be, and possibly why
this lawsuit is legitimate, is that what was the weight
capacity of this particular mechanism that was lifting him.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, So what happened was that back in October of
twenty twenty three, he was getting into this transport van
and they're saying that the wheelchair ramp failed which caused
him to fall and hit his head on the pavement.
So like you're saying, did that fail because it was
over the weight capacity? Was the person loading him in
not trained to know that? Or was there just a
(02:14):
pure malfunction?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, And I think that that's I want to keep
my eye on this case because I think that that's
going to be a big part of the discussion that
he just was an atypical person. It's not you know,
if you have a transport company that's doing this all
the time, most people don't fit into this range. And
this was an unusual circumstance. Clearly wasn't handled correctly. There's
(02:39):
no reason that a person should ever fall out of
a wheelchair and have to hit their head on the
ground and die as a result of blunt trauma.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm interested too, because he died nine months after the
incident happened, and initially I saw that he had died
from natural causes. So I'm like, how did they connect
this particular event with his death?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, because it's the same as act thing with homicide too, right.
It's like if you if you stab someone and they
survive and they end up having partial paralysis, let's say,
and they live another twenty years and they die as
a result of that paralysis, they could still charge the
person that stabbed them with homicide because they died as
(03:23):
a result of the injury. So they're able to pinpoint
this and say he was one hundred percent fine, and
maybe you could give or take the obesity factoring into this,
but he was mentally fine.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
He was young.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It was fifty six years old, a young guy. He
had this accident. Ever since then everything went downhill. He
neurologically couldn't take care of himself. What I don't I
don't really know what happened to him after he hit
his head. I mean, he could have he could have
been a borderline comatose and could The range is so
great depending on what happened. But really if they were
(04:06):
able to pinpoint that event that led to because like
let's say he's in the hospital for a brain injury
and he's put on a ventilator, and then he gets
an infection, and then he has complications from the infection.
Like all of that stuff happened because he hit his head.
That wouldn't happened otherwise. Okay, So that's why they're able
to say that he died as a result of that injury.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
That's interesting. I mean, it just feel bad for the
family they have to go through this. And then they
have the lawsuit. So they're seeking a jury trial and
damages and excess of fifty thousand dollars for the estates.
So you know how the court system works, it's going
to probably be going on for another couple of years before.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
We get not that much money. It's really not fifty thousand.
I mean, like it probably covers his medical lithes, especially
standing from that eg. Yeah, especially, like I mean I
don't think that that's that's that bad, honestly.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, I mean my problem Like, look at the Cardi
b trial for example, that person was claiming that she
assaulted them and then wanted twenty four million dollars. I know.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
That's why I think.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
And really, regardless of exactly what went down, like he
was in a wheelchair and he fell out and hit
his head, that shouldn't have happened no matter what, it
was definitely not his fault. No, absolutely, so I think
that I think that that's I think that's reasonable.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Fox five anchor Rosanna Scotta was doing an exercise segment
on air, and after this man helped her do several
pull ups on this workout machine, she face planted onto
the ground on live television.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Can I just could we just all agree that morning
shows are are just like the worst things ever.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
This is what I was gonna say, Like cringey is
a good word to describe it. They're just cringey.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
This is exactly what I was gonna say. Because they
made a joke with the guy, I hope you have
good insurance, and I'm like, no, if I was hear,
I'd suing the network for making me do this dumb
shit every day.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's let's just think about this as for a second.
She's sixty seven years old, Okay, so she's a senior citizen.
She's wearing a suit and high heels, and they thought
it was a good idea for her to get up
and go with this trainer and do pull ups on
this freaking machine. She couldn't reach it. She stands up
(06:24):
to the machine and she can't reach the little hook
she has to put her hands in and this guy
and certainly can't pull herself up because like who could
do a pull up? They're freaking hard, right, Yeah, They're
like the hardest things in the world to do. And
same with pushups and everything like that. You feel like
you're gonna drop that when you're doing it. So she's
already like over exerting her upper body strength just trying
(06:48):
to attempt to do this, which she can't do. This
guy goes below her feet and like grabs her by
the bottom of her legs and is helping her pull
herself up. But still that's it's hard when you've never
done it before, you can't do it. And then he's
like this big man is squeezing her legs and then
like puts her down and she steps forward and kind
(07:10):
of trips over the machinery, and I'm just like, what
is the point of this?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, it's stupid because it's what is the point? And
this is also not the only time she's fallen on television.
They said in October twenty fourteen, she was doing a
segment a Rockefeller Center in the ice skating rink and
she also fell and that ended up with her breaking
her wrists, fracturing an elbow, and needing to undergo surgery.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
They just put them in these dumb ass positions.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Why I just refuse to believe when they do user
testing that these stupid segments test so well that they
have to continue doing them. Like the point of that
was to say, like, you should exercise. I don't know,
Like who are you exactly talking to, because I know
that some of you listening probably go to the gym
and do pull ups, but like the majority of you
(07:58):
do not and would never even tempt it because it's
it's impossible. So like she's she's an old lady, Like,
what what do you what's the exercise here?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I don't understand it either. At every time, it makes that.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Guy look like a douchebag too, Like, well, he's trying
to go on there to promote his business, and I'm like,
that makes you look terrible.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It's not only that, it's just you know, and I
think this is where the morning show, that Apple TV
show really does a bad job, because they really could
focus on the bullshit like that, but instead, So there's.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
A show that that mimic.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Is it like a comedy, No, it's it started as like,
all right, so you know, newsroom drama is my favorite thing. Ever,
so when I see Apple has this show coming out,
I'm so excited as Jennifer and Its and Witherspoon, Steve
Carell in it. And the very first episode was mimicking
the day that Matt Lower got fired and the expose
(08:54):
on him being a sexual predator. Right, but it's serious,
it's a serious show, but they just taking it too far.
It's it's basically on the and just like that level
of you just took it too far. But I think
part of the show they should make fun of the
fact that they do that stuff, but they don't, and
it would be really successful because everybody thinks these dumb
(09:16):
skits they do that would.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That would be a good show actually, but like you know,
more style, like you know, like Best in Show. That's
such a good movie, like that, that kind of comedy,
you know, the one with the dog, you know what
I'm talking about, right, Yes, Christopher guests. Yet like if
it was done in that style, it would be genius
because there's so much material because they do the dumbest
(09:38):
shit with their Halloween costumes into this and that They're
always just doing the most outrageous stuff and I look
at that and I'm just kind of like, this is
I just don't even understand this.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I just I don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And but think of think of some of these people
that are actually wonderful journalists and then you have to
go from reporting world news to doing pull ups on air.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, they're like watered down skits are real neat.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's borderline degrading.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Honestly, I'm not for it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
This guy and his brother were hanging out by a
river in Malaysia when suddenly one of them was attacked
by a crocodile. So the other brother heard him screaming,
ran over for help, and in an attempt to save him,
he opened the crocodile's jaw looking for him because they
think he thought he was eaten by the animal, and
then the brothers just nowhere to be found.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, I guess. Typically the crocodile will.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
What it does with its with its prey anyway, is
exactly that, it'll grab it with its teeth, but it
pulls it under the water and drowns it. That's what
I shakes it about and does the death roll thing
while while not a person, but their prey is underwater
and that gets them to stop moving so they could
eat it.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Well, that's what I was I think at that point.
Obviously the brother was just in the water somewhere because
it would have been too quick for the crocodile to
eat him, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I would, I would think so if it was just
all that quick, and they'll probably they haven't found his
body yet. They probably will find his body or at
least parts of his body at some point, maybe because
I guess, I mean the brother left and got out
of the water at some point and the body was
still floating there, and there's more than one crocodile in
(11:30):
the water, so it's a possibility that a bunch of them.
Maybe he wasn't eating right away, but he sank to
the bottom of wherever they were, and then you know.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
He's really lucky nothing happened to him. Can you imagine
going up to a crocodile and trying to pry open
their mouth. He's lucky he didn't get attacked.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I actually wrote a story about a similar thing that
happened in the grocer room this week, actually about a
guy who would They were in a fishing boat in
a similar situation, and this crocodile tried It was the
same thing, like he tried to grab this guy and
pull him into the water, and luckily the crocodile only
(12:11):
grabbed the guy by the scalp, which it took off
his scalp. It just evolvest the entire scalp, Jesus, which
looks terrible, and I'm sure it's a terrible thing to
go through to have to try to uh, either fix
that wound or to get skin grafts to cover that wound.
But there's not any major blood vessels there, and if
(12:34):
there's no damage to the skull, it looks like a
very gruesome injury. But it's it's really like not that
bad or that life threatening. But imagine the other person
that was with him seeing the guy's skull like completely
ripped off of his his or his scalp ripped off
of his skull, like it would be really disturbing, to
(12:57):
say the least, but that's that's what they do. They
kind to creep and then they jump out and attack
you and pull you in the water. And alligators too.
It's remember that kid that died at Disney World. Yeah,
I mean that was horrible. That was the first thing
I thought about. Yeah, that was a similar that was
a similar thing that happened.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
But that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
The alligator pulled the kid into the water and then
the kid ended up. His cause of death was from drowning. Also,
I mean it depends where they grab you, because if
an alligator or crocodile grabs you can grab you by
the neck and puncture you, then you know you could
(13:37):
you could have issues there too, especially from your neck.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
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Speaker 2 (13:51):
Like we said, our high profile death disseection this week
is on Halloween, especially focusing on the Halloween in appropriate decorations,
inappropriate costumes and not like I'm not talking about just
like slutty costumes. What did they say in mean girls
(14:12):
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we gotten here?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
And where are we going?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Because like what Halloween was for me as a kid
even forty years ago is significantly different. Now, what's it
going to be in another forty years from now? And
are we headed in the right direction because of all
the violence in society? And then we also have a
Forensic Friday that was last week that was really good.
That is titled psychology or psycho So that's really good.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
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Speaker 3 (14:58):
Oh this, I'm like, what's dow? Oh this person?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah? A woman running for city council in Atlanta has
been arrested after she allegedly beat her three foster children
with a skillet and forced them to eat cat litter
riddled with poop. That's what is wrong with people?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Really, the worst part about this. This is this isn't
Cheryl's neck of the woods.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
By the way. The worst part about this is that
look at did you look at the amount of bond
that she got.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, nothing like nothing.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Fifteen fifteen thousand dollars, which I believe you have to
put up half of that, so that that's cool.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well yeah, and there's you know, it doesn't end there.
So she was fostering three children in age thirteen to
seventeen for over a decade, and she's accused of hitting
them with a wooden grill, scraper, a plastic bet a skillet,
mentally abusing them, making the children quote sleep on a
basement floor without a bed, and stay in a closet
without lighter windows with the outside secure to prevent escape.
(15:57):
But luckily they were able to get out. And all
this abuse they've been going through all this.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Time, it's really interesting to me that we have stories,
I feel like often of people who are fostering children
that don't treat them nice.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It is you know, I've been thinking about this a
lot because we had those other stories in the past too,
and I think there is you know, there's a pocket
of people that want to be really good people and
do the right thing and try to give these kids
a good home. And then there's a pocket of people
that see the financial advantages behind it and don't care
about the kids at all and end up in situations
(16:37):
like this because why would you possibly want to take
kids in if you have abusive tendencies like this?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Well I don't really know one hundred percent the psychology
of abuse, but you would think if you're going to
hit a child and mistreat them like that, that you
don't like children, well.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Exactly, So that's why it's bizarre to me. But then
you know, there's a huge financial component behind being a
foster parent. So if you're getting a nice payday, yeah,
you're gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I just don't know. I don't know a way around that,
because the financial component is.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Can be used as an incentive, and I don't think
that that's necessarily negative, but it might incentivize someone that
does have a good home to be like, you know,
we really could use the extra money and we could
do this and it you know, it might the incentive
might not always be negative. It's just more to try
to recruit people that maybe wouldn't have done it before.
(17:37):
But are in need of money, and obviously children cost money,
so you're doing if you're doing something like that, really
you really should be able to get some compensation if
you're trying to help the state out in that situation,
because you know, kids eat, they eat a lot, they
have launched, they have this activity, they want to go
(17:57):
to the mall, this and that. I mean, if if
a person really wants to do it and just as
financially stable, that would be the nicest That would be
the nicest thing if they did it on a purely
volunteer basis, because then you would really get the genuine
people that want to do it out of the kindness
of their heart. But that's not practical with the amount
(18:17):
of children that are in the foster system and they're
just trying to like push them through and like unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And then this lady's running for city council, Like you
don't think something like this is gonna come out. It's
like these idiots that go on housewives and they're doing
all this illegal stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Like somebody's gonna catch on.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You're on television boasting about like use Teresa Guida as
for example, she's on television saying how she paid like
one hundred thousand dollars in cash for all her furniture.
You don't think someone's watching that saying that's not normal
and looking into it.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
There's a guy that's running for some kind of higher
office in Virginia right now that just wrote text messages
about killing someone that is one of his opponent opponents
and like her child, not him doing it, but saying
that her that the guy that they deserve to die
(19:10):
and get shot or something like that.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I don't know, but like you're idiots.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
But but I the whole time I was hearing about
that story, I'm just like, why would you put that
in writing if you thought that way if you're running
for office especially, I think that that was what we
were talking about the Kennedy's last episode, Like that dad,
Joe Kennedy, the dad he had like bred those children
(19:35):
to be, to to be in a certain way that
they wouldn't have any of these kinds. Not that it worked,
I guess you would say, but when you're running for
office and things like that, you have to make sure
that you don't have skeletons in your closet like that.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Because the other clans, they were just really good at
covering them up.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
The other team.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, like the other teams just gonna they'll pay thousands
of dollars to get someone to give a text message
like that. Like they're always looking for something that's going
to come out, especially right around this time of year,
right before elections are gonna happen, right, So why like,
why would you do anything like that? It just makes
me question, not even as I mean, what you said
(20:21):
is messed up, but not even as much as that.
It's just like, what is your judgment that you're doing
this right now?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, I think there's a group of people that think
that FBI are monitoring every single text you send, and
they're very overly cautious, and then there's another group of
people that are just like, that doesn't happen. I'll never
get caught with anything I say. And it's just not true,
because if you do something that you know, warrants that
they could go through your phone to look for incriminating evidence,
(20:47):
they're going to find everything. It doesn't mean if you if.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You delete it, that's not even what happened going away,
But that's not even what happened in this case. I
don't know exactly because I don't really like follow it
that much.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I don't know exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
How the text messages came to be because they're they're
screenshots of text messages, but I'm assuming that they the
one of the people involved was had something to do
with it, right, because otherwise, how do you you.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Know, Let's say you got a text like that and
you were like, well, what if these people end up dead?
And I knew it beforehand. Some people have are too guilty.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I absolutely I would be like that because I'm sorry,
but when you're in a normal functioning friendship, relationship, anything,
and someone sends you a text message like that, you
should be like, this is fucking weird.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
This is not like that's that's not something. It wasn't
written like a joke.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
We talked about this with the Corey Richand's case. She's
actually her trials coming up in a couple months. So
remember we were making the point that you know, everybody
in your life has been like, oh, I'm I kill
my husband for doing.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
This, right, I said it to him this morning.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Well, yeah, because when I made when I went to
drive forty minutes for no reason, they're back to the
car dealership.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
But I didn't actually I said to him, I swear
to God, I'm gonna kill you. And then he wrote
and said sorry, I didn't mean you make you waste
your time, and I wrote back, You're never a waste
of my time, my love. That's and that's it, Like
I because that's normal. If I texted you and was
just like.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I'm gonna put a bullet in this dude's head tonight,
because well, I've said enough. This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Like everybody at some point has been like I'm gonna
kill so and so, and it's it doesn't mean you're
actually gonna murder them. It's just like a figure of speech.
But in that particular case, he had said to his friend,
I think my wife's trying to poison me. And that's
a little too specific that I feel like somebody needs
to say something.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah, that's that's how it is.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
So because I think, like, if you're in the moment
and I really just don't like hate anybody to that
level that I sit there and think about that, it's
just weird to me. But like, if you're in the
moment and it's making you that angry, you have to
realize that the person on the other side of it
is like normal minded and it's just like wow, like
(23:11):
what's happening right now? And you're right because let's say,
for example, any of those people that that person was
talking about died, the first thing they're going to do
is be check their phones and stuff and say like,
were you plotting this?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Did you tell anybody?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
And you don't want to be in trouble for that either,
even if it's your best friend, Like there's a certain
line that gets crossed and you're just like, yeah, no, you.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Would think all we know about death investigation right now
that people would be the best criminals they could possibly be.
But if anything, they're getting so much dumber over time.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
They're getting worse, right, Yeah, it's it's really it's really amazing.
I'm just trying to think of what I was just telling,
just like Amage, Oh I was telling. I was telling
lucea this yesterday. So I PU, I'm pulling out of
my driveway. You know, I always am bitching about my
car because it has way too many bills and bells
and whistles. I'm pulling out of my driveway.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
And the thing is going nuts and I'm like, so
I pull back and she goes, Wow, that's really cool
because there's a camera, and she's like, well, that's really cool,
like you could see exactly where you're going.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It seems like it's pretty easy to drive. And I
just said, no, Lucia, it actually was way easier to
drive because I just knew how to use my mirrors
and pull out of a driveway. And that is distracting
as hell, and it makes me feel like I'm going
to crash because all of the noise and shit when
I know how to drive is distracting. And then I
(24:38):
was telling her like, in fact, they do all of
these things now with the sensors and this and that
so you don't crash. And I bet you that crashes
are up more than they were before that stuff existed.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
One hundred it's not improving anything at all. So that's
what they say.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Remember we had that story about Tesla drivers that were
getting more accidents, and it wasn't necessarily about the car
being defective. It was just that it's so distracting on
the inside. The drivers aren't paying attention.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yes, it has to be.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
They have a freaking laptop and screen and I look
over at a Tesla and I'm like, why do you
need a literal laptop screen?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
It's so big, Like, what is that? What is it for?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
And anytime I drive with Ddie, I'm just like, I
could never as a passenger. I'm so distracted that I
could never drive.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
In the dark though it's very bright and distracting, It's
it's just weird. And you just are like, you keep
implementing all this technology that costs all this money and
it doesn't do shit totally. I guarantee you that I'll
hit something because of that, because it makes me so rattled.
And I just told Gabe, I want to go around
my car with black pieces of duct tape and put
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it over every sensor, I say, and maybe that will
make it stop.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, you can't turn them off?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
No, no, trust me.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Like I can't even turn your heated teat I can't.
I can't press six. But I can't figure out anything
on that stupid car. I just wish there was something
I could unhook all of it. I want to go
in and just that the next time I get a car,
I want to go in and be like I want
a radio and air conditioning and heat and that's it.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
That's it. And they hated seat, that heatnt seat. But
the button needs to be easy to push.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You know what I hate in my car is it
has that like it turns off when you stop at
a like everyone hates that, and you can't just turn
it off. You have to hit the button every time
you get in the car.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Well, and my.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Dad is is a you know whatever, fifty year diesel mechanic,
and he's just like it. I guarantee you that it's
using more gas to restart it than you're saving on
the emissions, like, which I believe to be true. And
so Louis swears that his car doesn't have it.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
No, he had a custom built, so he just got
it built without it.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But but I don't know because I feel like that
they I guess the walls are different and wherever in
the state, in Pennsylvania or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Maybe I don't know. I feel like he got by
some he didn't like.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I think you're thinking when you go and you want
certain custom things. He has a total custom build. It's
not he picked certain features. It's one hundred percent of
custom build.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Oh that's that's interesting. Then maybe I'll try that next
time I get a car.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, I mean, but.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Then you gotta pay like way more for it, just
like I want. Like I always think about that because
I do. I like certain parts of my car. But
I'm like, I wonder if I could get the dashboard
of like fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Car is the worst it is? Right, yes, all right,
Let's wrap up with a new potential danger at the
hair salon.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I guess it's not new.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
It's been around, but this study's coming in.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
It has been around, but it's something I never really
thought about and I've never heard of until today. This
beauty parlor syndrome. It's like BPSS American Journal of Emergency
Menificent has identified fifty four cases of this over forty
eight years, and forty two of them happened in hair salons,
eight of them happened in dental offices, and the other
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ones happened somewhere else. They didn't say where. But it's
due to like a hyper extension of your neck and
possibly compressing the carotid arteries in your neck, where the
materiral arteries in your neck. I never thought of this,
but I will say that when I used to get
my hair washed as a kid, when if I was
a day that I was like skipping at bath or something.
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A momm would just be like, let me wash your
hair in the bathtub. I remember my neck hurting so bad.
And when I get my hair washed at the salon,
I hate it too because it feels so gross.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Don't put like when I go to the hair salon,
she puts a towel under your mind, but that that's
a recent that's more recent, or they put that pillow.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
There's been some ones that I've been to that I've
been like, I feel so sick and I'm and now
I'm wondering if that's why, because it was compressing the
oxygen to my brain, Like really it's it's it's uncomfortable
if you're one of those old school shampoo boles that
doesn't have the pillow on it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Now, I mean yeah, I do remember being younger and
it just being massively uncomfortable. But I think now the
seats have you know, the built in either like you're saying,
the pillows or your hair chick should like put in
a towel or something. But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
So this one, there was a woman that had this
happen at the hair salon that she got I guess
it compressed it to the point where she developed a
clot in the vertebral artery, and then over the next
couple of weeks, the clot broke off and traveled to
her brain and she had a stroke.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And that was giving symptoms of it.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I think it's crazy that they could pinpoint that.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, that's what I was saying, Like, that's what I
was thinking, because if I went to the hair salon
and I think she was saying, what one to two
days later she wasn't feeling well, I definitely wouldn't think
it was from there. Yeah, there has to be a
little bit more like and the symptoms they provided in
this article were the same symptoms they give you for
every other like if you have the flu, if you
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have it generalized, if you're having a stroke, I mean
just in general, when you're you could have positional asphyxia
kind of. I guess you would say a compression of
your vessels. I mean it happens to you all the time, Right,
You're sitting there with your legs crossed, and then all
of a sudden, your foot falls asleep.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Like that's what's happening. You're compressing the nerves, You're compressing
the blood supply, right, you know when you get pins
and needles versus that really really gross.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Feeling where your legs, like completely, yes.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Like that's what's that's what's happening there. So it could
happen when you're pregnant. Your heavy uterus can compress on
your inferior being a kiva and could cause you to
Like when I had to go to the dentist or
something when I was pregnant, or any kind of thing
where you have to lay back like that, Like I
couldn't do it even with the ultra sense.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
It was weird.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I was like, I feel like I'm going to pass
out because it was compressing so bad. So, I mean,
in theory it's a thing. I just I can't believe.
I don't understand how they're able to pinpoint it to
exactly that, because if she went in with a stroke,
how would they I don't know. It's just it just
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kind of is like a stretch to me a little
bit to say this caused this.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Well, they're saying only fifty four cases of it have
been identified over forty eight years, so I would consider
this to be pretty rare if roughly one's happening.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
If it happened acutely, like right in the chair something
like that, Then I would say, okay, that that definitely
is causitive, unless unless she said, you know what, I
did get my hair done a day ago and I
got up and I felt dizzy and they had to
give me water, and you know, like if there was
like something happened at that time that she you know,
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because sometimes they'll say like, have you been feeling well?
What's been going on? And then you would say, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Know what, I was seeing spots the other day. It
could have been that, you know whatever, it was.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
So all right, Well, I guess new fear unlocked for
those of us who go to the air slots. I
think I think it's a pretty slim chance it's gonna
happen to anybody, But I guess just be aware of
your neck. Kerts Okay, guys, On Sunday, we're going to
be sponsoring the golf carts at the Keeping Hope Alive IVF,
a golf Classic, and then next Saturday we're going to
(32:31):
be doing a live show at Dark sid New Jersey
in Edison.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah, you guys should definitely go to that if you
live in Jersey or New York or Pennsylvania, or if
you want to take a road trip, because I think,
just aside from us doing the live show, which will
be amazing enough and worth the ride, I think that
the stuff that that the little snippets I'm seeing of
their promos looks like there's gonna be some really cool
(32:55):
stuff for sal there. So, I mean, pretty Christmas is
coming up, and you know, it's far away from Christmas,
but like when you have someone in your life like
me that likes different stuff, sometimes it's hard to find
something cool, and there you definitely will find something cool.
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about a lawsuit involving a Hawaii five
oh actor's untimely death, a morning show host that fell
flat on her face on live TV, a man who
was looking for his brother in the jaws of a crocodile,
kids forced to eat cat poop, and what is beauty
parlor syndrome? All that and more on today's episode, Let's
(00:44):
get started with this Hawaii five zero actor.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So last year, actor and former sumo wrestler Taylor Touley
Wiley suddenly died at fifty six years old, and now
his family is filing a lawsuit claiming he suffered fatal
injuries after he he was dropped in a wheelchair by
a Las Vegas medical transport company. This is a really
interesting thing to talk about because this guy, even though
(01:10):
he was very young, he had a very different body,
which was that he was very morbidly obese, and he
weighed over four hundred pounds.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
And to think about a person that weighs that much
that also has a wheelchair. So the wheelchair has to
be a bariatric wheelchair, which will be larger, and depending
on if it was an electric scooter type of wheelchair
versus a regular wheelchair, would depend on the weight, but
that could put a lot of extra weight on it too.
(01:40):
And I guess the question would be, and possibly why
this lawsuit is legitimate, is that what was the weight
capacity of this particular mechanism that was lifting him.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, So what happened was that back in October of
twenty twenty three, he was getting into this transport van
and they're saying that the wheelchair ramp failed which caused
him to fall and hit his head on the pavement.
So like you're saying, did that fail because it was
over the weight capacity? Was the person loading him in
not trained to know that? Or was there just a
(02:14):
pure malfunction?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, And I think that that's I want to keep
my eye on this case because I think that that's
going to be a big part of the discussion that
he just was an atypical person. It's not you know,
if you have a transport company that's doing this all
the time, most people don't fit into this range. And
this was an unusual circumstance. Clearly wasn't handled correctly. There's
(02:39):
no reason that a person should ever fall out of
a wheelchair and have to hit their head on the
ground and die as a result of blunt trauma.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Like that.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm interested too, because he died nine months after the
incident happened, and initially I saw that he had died
from natural causes. So I'm like, how did they connect
this particular event with his death?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, because it's the same as act thing with homicide too, right.
It's like if you if you stab someone and they
survive and they end up having partial paralysis, let's say,
and they live another twenty years and they die as
a result of that paralysis, they could still charge the
person that stabbed them with homicide because they died as
(03:23):
a result of the injury. So they're able to pinpoint
this and say he was one hundred percent fine, and
maybe you could give or take the obesity factoring into this,
but he was mentally fine.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
He was young.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It was fifty six years old, a young guy. He
had this accident. Ever since then everything went downhill. He
neurologically couldn't take care of himself. What I don't I
don't really know what happened to him after he hit
his head. I mean, he could have he could have
been a borderline comatose and could The range is so
great depending on what happened. But really if they were
(04:06):
able to pinpoint that event that led to because like
let's say he's in the hospital for a brain injury
and he's put on a ventilator, and then he gets
an infection, and then he has complications from the infection.
Like all of that stuff happened because he hit his head.
That wouldn't happened otherwise. Okay, So that's why they're able
to say that he died as a result of that injury.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
That's interesting. I mean, it just feel bad for the
family they have to go through this. And then they
have the lawsuit. So they're seeking a jury trial and
damages and excess of fifty thousand dollars for the estates.
So you know how the court system works, it's going
to probably be going on for another couple of years before.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
We get not that much money. It's really not fifty thousand.
I mean, like it probably covers his medical lithes, especially
standing from that eg. Yeah, especially, like I mean I
don't think that that's that's that bad, honestly.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, I mean my problem Like, look at the Cardi
b trial for example, that person was claiming that she
assaulted them and then wanted twenty four million dollars. I know.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
That's why I think.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
And really, regardless of exactly what went down, like he
was in a wheelchair and he fell out and hit
his head, that shouldn't have happened no matter what, it
was definitely not his fault. No, absolutely, so I think
that I think that that's I think that's reasonable.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Fox five anchor Rosanna Scotta was doing an exercise segment
on air, and after this man helped her do several
pull ups on this workout machine, she face planted onto
the ground on live television.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Can I just could we just all agree that morning
shows are are just like the worst things ever.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
This is what I was gonna say, Like cringey is
a good word to describe it. They're just cringey.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
This is exactly what I was gonna say. Because they
made a joke with the guy, I hope you have
good insurance, and I'm like, no, if I was hear,
I'd suing the network for making me do this dumb
shit every day.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It's let's just think about this as for a second.
She's sixty seven years old, Okay, so she's a senior citizen.
She's wearing a suit and high heels, and they thought
it was a good idea for her to get up
and go with this trainer and do pull ups on
this freaking machine. She couldn't reach it. She stands up
(06:24):
to the machine and she can't reach the little hook
she has to put her hands in and this guy
and certainly can't pull herself up because like who could
do a pull up? They're freaking hard, right, Yeah, They're
like the hardest things in the world to do. And
same with pushups and everything like that. You feel like
you're gonna drop that when you're doing it. So she's
already like over exerting her upper body strength just trying
(06:48):
to attempt to do this, which she can't do. This
guy goes below her feet and like grabs her by
the bottom of her legs and is helping her pull
herself up. But still that's it's hard when you've never
done it before, you can't do it. And then he's
like this big man is squeezing her legs and then
like puts her down and she steps forward and kind
(07:10):
of trips over the machinery, and I'm just like, what
is the point of this?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, it's stupid because it's what is the point? And
this is also not the only time she's fallen on television.
They said in October twenty fourteen, she was doing a
segment a Rockefeller Center in the ice skating rink and
she also fell and that ended up with her breaking
her wrists, fracturing an elbow, and needing to undergo surgery.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
They just put them in these dumb ass positions.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Why I just refuse to believe when they do user
testing that these stupid segments test so well that they
have to continue doing them. Like the point of that
was to say, like, you should exercise. I don't know,
Like who are you exactly talking to, because I know
that some of you listening probably go to the gym
and do pull ups, but like the majority of you
(07:58):
do not and would never even tempt it because it's
it's impossible. So like she's she's an old lady, Like,
what what do you what's the exercise here?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
I don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I don't understand it either. At every time, it makes that.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Guy look like a douchebag too, Like, well, he's trying
to go on there to promote his business, and I'm like,
that makes you look terrible.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It's not only that, it's just you know, and I
think this is where the morning show, that Apple TV
show really does a bad job, because they really could
focus on the bullshit like that, but instead, So there's.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
A show that that mimic.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Is it like a comedy, No, it's it started as like,
all right, so you know, newsroom drama is my favorite thing. Ever,
so when I see Apple has this show coming out,
I'm so excited as Jennifer and Its and Witherspoon, Steve
Carell in it. And the very first episode was mimicking
the day that Matt Lower got fired and the expose
(08:54):
on him being a sexual predator. Right, but it's serious,
it's a serious show, but they just taking it too far.
It's it's basically on the and just like that level
of you just took it too far. But I think
part of the show they should make fun of the
fact that they do that stuff, but they don't, and
it would be really successful because everybody thinks these dumb
(09:16):
skits they do that would.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That would be a good show actually, but like you know,
more style, like you know, like Best in Show. That's
such a good movie, like that, that kind of comedy,
you know, the one with the dog, you know what
I'm talking about, right, Yes, Christopher guests. Yet like if
it was done in that style, it would be genius
because there's so much material because they do the dumbest
(09:38):
shit with their Halloween costumes into this and that They're
always just doing the most outrageous stuff and I look
at that and I'm just kind of like, this is
I just don't even understand this.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I just I don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
And but think of think of some of these people
that are actually wonderful journalists and then you have to
go from reporting world news to doing pull ups on air.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, they're like watered down skits are real neat.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
It's borderline degrading.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Honestly, I'm not for it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
This guy and his brother were hanging out by a
river in Malaysia when suddenly one of them was attacked
by a crocodile. So the other brother heard him screaming,
ran over for help, and in an attempt to save him,
he opened the crocodile's jaw looking for him because they
think he thought he was eaten by the animal, and
then the brothers just nowhere to be found.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, I guess. Typically the crocodile will.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
What it does with its with its prey anyway, is
exactly that, it'll grab it with its teeth, but it
pulls it under the water and drowns it. That's what
I shakes it about and does the death roll thing
while while not a person, but their prey is underwater
and that gets them to stop moving so they could
eat it.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Well, that's what I was I think at that point.
Obviously the brother was just in the water somewhere because
it would have been too quick for the crocodile to
eat him, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
I would, I would think so if it was just
all that quick, and they'll probably they haven't found his
body yet. They probably will find his body or at
least parts of his body at some point, maybe because
I guess, I mean the brother left and got out
of the water at some point and the body was
still floating there, and there's more than one crocodile in
(11:30):
the water, so it's a possibility that a bunch of them.
Maybe he wasn't eating right away, but he sank to
the bottom of wherever they were, and then you know.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
He's really lucky nothing happened to him. Can you imagine
going up to a crocodile and trying to pry open
their mouth. He's lucky he didn't get attacked.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I actually wrote a story about a similar thing that
happened in the grocer room this week, actually about a
guy who would They were in a fishing boat in
a similar situation, and this crocodile tried It was the
same thing, like he tried to grab this guy and
pull him into the water, and luckily the crocodile only
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grabbed the guy by the scalp, which it took off
his scalp. It just evolvest the entire scalp, Jesus, which
looks terrible, and I'm sure it's a terrible thing to
go through to have to try to uh, either fix
that wound or to get skin grafts to cover that wound.
But there's not any major blood vessels there, and if
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there's no damage to the skull, it looks like a
very gruesome injury. But it's it's really like not that
bad or that life threatening. But imagine the other person
that was with him seeing the guy's skull like completely
ripped off of his his or his scalp ripped off
of his skull, like it would be really disturbing, to
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say the least, but that's that's what they do. They
kind to creep and then they jump out and attack
you and pull you in the water. And alligators too.
It's remember that kid that died at Disney World. Yeah,
I mean that was horrible. That was the first thing
I thought about. Yeah, that was a similar that was
a similar thing that happened.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
But that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
The alligator pulled the kid into the water and then
the kid ended up. His cause of death was from drowning. Also,
I mean it depends where they grab you, because if
an alligator or crocodile grabs you can grab you by
the neck and puncture you, then you know you could
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you could have issues there too, especially from your neck.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
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Speaker 3 (14:27):
And where are we going?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Because like what Halloween was for me as a kid
even forty years ago is significantly different. Now, what's it
going to be in another forty years from now? And
are we headed in the right direction because of all
the violence in society? And then we also have a
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Speaker 3 (14:58):
Oh this, I'm like, what's dow? Oh this person?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah? A woman running for city council in Atlanta has
been arrested after she allegedly beat her three foster children
with a skillet and forced them to eat cat litter
riddled with poop. That's what is wrong with people?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Really, the worst part about this. This is this isn't
Cheryl's neck of the woods.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
By the way. The worst part about this is that
look at did you look at the amount of bond
that she got.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, nothing like nothing.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Fifteen fifteen thousand dollars, which I believe you have to
put up half of that, so that that's cool.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well yeah, and there's you know, it doesn't end there.
So she was fostering three children in age thirteen to
seventeen for over a decade, and she's accused of hitting
them with a wooden grill, scraper, a plastic bet a skillet,
mentally abusing them, making the children quote sleep on a
basement floor without a bed, and stay in a closet
without lighter windows with the outside secure to prevent escape.
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But luckily they were able to get out. And all
this abuse they've been going through all this.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Time, it's really interesting to me that we have stories,
I feel like often of people who are fostering children
that don't treat them nice.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It is you know, I've been thinking about this a
lot because we had those other stories in the past too,
and I think there is you know, there's a pocket
of people that want to be really good people and
do the right thing and try to give these kids
a good home. And then there's a pocket of people
that see the financial advantages behind it and don't care
about the kids at all and end up in situations
(16:37):
like this because why would you possibly want to take
kids in if you have abusive tendencies like this?
Speaker 2 (16:44):
Well I don't really know one hundred percent the psychology
of abuse, but you would think if you're going to
hit a child and mistreat them like that, that you
don't like children, well.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Exactly, So that's why it's bizarre to me. But then
you know, there's a huge financial component behind being a
foster parent. So if you're getting a nice payday, yeah,
you're gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I just don't know. I don't know a way around that,
because the financial component is.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Can be used as an incentive, and I don't think
that that's necessarily negative, but it might incentivize someone that
does have a good home to be like, you know,
we really could use the extra money and we could
do this and it you know, it might the incentive
might not always be negative. It's just more to try
to recruit people that maybe wouldn't have done it before.
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But are in need of money, and obviously children cost money,
so you're doing if you're doing something like that, really
you really should be able to get some compensation if
you're trying to help the state out in that situation,
because you know, kids eat, they eat a lot, they
have launched, they have this activity, they want to go
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to the mall, this and that. I mean, if if
a person really wants to do it and just as
financially stable, that would be the nicest That would be
the nicest thing if they did it on a purely
volunteer basis, because then you would really get the genuine
people that want to do it out of the kindness
of their heart. But that's not practical with the amount
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of children that are in the foster system and they're
just trying to like push them through and like unfortunately.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
And then this lady's running for city council, Like you
don't think something like this is gonna come out. It's
like these idiots that go on housewives and they're doing
all this illegal stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Like somebody's gonna catch on.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You're on television boasting about like use Teresa Guida as
for example, she's on television saying how she paid like
one hundred thousand dollars in cash for all her furniture.
You don't think someone's watching that saying that's not normal
and looking into it.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
There's a guy that's running for some kind of higher
office in Virginia right now that just wrote text messages
about killing someone that is one of his opponent opponents
and like her child, not him doing it, but saying
that her that the guy that they deserve to die
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and get shot or something like that.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I don't know, but like you're idiots.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
But but I the whole time I was hearing about
that story, I'm just like, why would you put that
in writing if you thought that way if you're running
for office especially, I think that that was what we
were talking about the Kennedy's last episode, Like that dad,
Joe Kennedy, the dad he had like bred those children
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to be, to to be in a certain way that
they wouldn't have any of these kinds. Not that it worked,
I guess you would say, but when you're running for
office and things like that, you have to make sure
that you don't have skeletons in your closet like that.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Because the other clans, they were just really good at
covering them up.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
The other team.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, like the other teams just gonna they'll pay thousands
of dollars to get someone to give a text message
like that. Like they're always looking for something that's going
to come out, especially right around this time of year,
right before elections are gonna happen, right, So why like,
why would you do anything like that? It just makes
me question, not even as I mean, what you said
(20:21):
is messed up, but not even as much as that.
It's just like, what is your judgment that you're doing
this right now?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, I think there's a group of people that think
that FBI are monitoring every single text you send, and
they're very overly cautious, and then there's another group of
people that are just like, that doesn't happen. I'll never
get caught with anything I say. And it's just not true,
because if you do something that you know, warrants that
they could go through your phone to look for incriminating evidence,
(20:47):
they're going to find everything. It doesn't mean if you if.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You delete it, that's not even what happened going away,
But that's not even what happened in this case. I
don't know exactly because I don't really like follow it
that much.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I don't know exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
How the text messages came to be because they're they're
screenshots of text messages, but I'm assuming that they the
one of the people involved was had something to do
with it, right, because otherwise, how do you you.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Know, Let's say you got a text like that and
you were like, well, what if these people end up dead?
And I knew it beforehand. Some people have are too guilty.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I absolutely I would be like that because I'm sorry,
but when you're in a normal functioning friendship, relationship, anything,
and someone sends you a text message like that, you
should be like, this is fucking weird.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
This is not like that's that's not something. It wasn't
written like a joke.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
We talked about this with the Corey Richand's case. She's
actually her trials coming up in a couple months. So
remember we were making the point that you know, everybody
in your life has been like, oh, I'm I kill
my husband for doing.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
This, right, I said it to him this morning.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Well, yeah, because when I made when I went to
drive forty minutes for no reason, they're back to the
car dealership.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
But I didn't actually I said to him, I swear
to God, I'm gonna kill you. And then he wrote
and said sorry, I didn't mean you make you waste
your time, and I wrote back, You're never a waste
of my time, my love. That's and that's it, Like
I because that's normal. If I texted you and was
just like.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I'm gonna put a bullet in this dude's head tonight,
because well, I've said enough. This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Like everybody at some point has been like I'm gonna
kill so and so, and it's it doesn't mean you're
actually gonna murder them. It's just like a figure of speech.
But in that particular case, he had said to his friend,
I think my wife's trying to poison me. And that's
a little too specific that I feel like somebody needs
to say something.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yeah, that's that's how it is.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
So because I think, like, if you're in the moment
and I really just don't like hate anybody to that
level that I sit there and think about that, it's
just weird to me. But like, if you're in the
moment and it's making you that angry, you have to
realize that the person on the other side of it
is like normal minded and it's just like wow, like
(23:11):
what's happening right now? And you're right because let's say,
for example, any of those people that that person was
talking about died, the first thing they're going to do
is be check their phones and stuff and say like,
were you plotting this?
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Did you tell anybody?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
And you don't want to be in trouble for that either,
even if it's your best friend, Like there's a certain
line that gets crossed and you're just like, yeah, no, you.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Would think all we know about death investigation right now
that people would be the best criminals they could possibly be.
But if anything, they're getting so much dumber over time.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
They're getting worse, right, Yeah, it's it's really it's really amazing.
I'm just trying to think of what I was just telling,
just like Amage, Oh I was telling. I was telling
lucea this yesterday. So I PU, I'm pulling out of
my driveway. You know, I always am bitching about my
car because it has way too many bills and bells
and whistles. I'm pulling out of my driveway.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
And the thing is going nuts and I'm like, so
I pull back and she goes, Wow, that's really cool
because there's a camera, and she's like, well, that's really cool,
like you could see exactly where you're going.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It seems like it's pretty easy to drive. And I
just said, no, Lucia, it actually was way easier to
drive because I just knew how to use my mirrors
and pull out of a driveway. And that is distracting
as hell, and it makes me feel like I'm going
to crash because all of the noise and shit when
I know how to drive is distracting. And then I
(24:38):
was telling her like, in fact, they do all of
these things now with the sensors and this and that
so you don't crash. And I bet you that crashes
are up more than they were before that stuff existed.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
One hundred it's not improving anything at all. So that's
what they say.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Remember we had that story about Tesla drivers that were
getting more accidents, and it wasn't necessarily about the car
being defective. It was just that it's so distracting on
the inside. The drivers aren't paying attention.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yes, it has to be.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
They have a freaking laptop and screen and I look
over at a Tesla and I'm like, why do you
need a literal laptop screen?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
It's so big, Like, what is that? What is it for?
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
And anytime I drive with Ddie, I'm just like, I
could never as a passenger. I'm so distracted that I
could never drive.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
In the dark though it's very bright and distracting, It's
it's just weird. And you just are like, you keep
implementing all this technology that costs all this money and
it doesn't do shit totally. I guarantee you that I'll
hit something because of that, because it makes me so rattled.
And I just told Gabe, I want to go around
my car with black pieces of duct tape and put
(25:46):
it over every sensor, I say, and maybe that will
make it stop.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, you can't turn them off?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
No, no, trust me.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Like I can't even turn your heated teat I can't.
I can't press six. But I can't figure out anything
on that stupid car. I just wish there was something
I could unhook all of it. I want to go
in and just that the next time I get a car,
I want to go in and be like I want
a radio and air conditioning and heat and that's it.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
That's it. And they hated seat, that heatnt seat. But
the button needs to be easy to push.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
You know what I hate in my car is it
has that like it turns off when you stop at
a like everyone hates that, and you can't just turn
it off. You have to hit the button every time
you get in the car.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Well, and my.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Dad is is a you know whatever, fifty year diesel mechanic,
and he's just like it. I guarantee you that it's
using more gas to restart it than you're saving on
the emissions, like, which I believe to be true. And
so Louis swears that his car doesn't have it.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
No, he had a custom built, so he just got
it built without it.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
But but I don't know because I feel like that
they I guess the walls are different and wherever in
the state, in Pennsylvania or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Maybe I don't know. I feel like he got by
some he didn't like.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I think you're thinking when you go and you want
certain custom things. He has a total custom build. It's
not he picked certain features. It's one hundred percent of
custom build.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Oh that's that's interesting. Then maybe I'll try that next
time I get a car.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yeah, I mean, but.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Then you gotta pay like way more for it, just
like I want. Like I always think about that because
I do. I like certain parts of my car. But
I'm like, I wonder if I could get the dashboard
of like fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Car is the worst it is? Right, yes, all right,
Let's wrap up with a new potential danger at the
hair salon.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I guess it's not new.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
It's been around, but this study's coming in.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
It has been around, but it's something I never really
thought about and I've never heard of until today. This
beauty parlor syndrome. It's like BPSS American Journal of Emergency
Menificent has identified fifty four cases of this over forty
eight years, and forty two of them happened in hair salons,
eight of them happened in dental offices, and the other
(28:07):
ones happened somewhere else. They didn't say where. But it's
due to like a hyper extension of your neck and
possibly compressing the carotid arteries in your neck, where the
materiral arteries in your neck. I never thought of this,
but I will say that when I used to get
my hair washed as a kid, when if I was
a day that I was like skipping at bath or something.
(28:28):
A momm would just be like, let me wash your
hair in the bathtub. I remember my neck hurting so bad.
And when I get my hair washed at the salon,
I hate it too because it feels so gross.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Don't put like when I go to the hair salon,
she puts a towel under your mind, but that that's
a recent that's more recent, or they put that pillow.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
There's been some ones that I've been to that I've
been like, I feel so sick and I'm and now
I'm wondering if that's why, because it was compressing the
oxygen to my brain, Like really it's it's it's uncomfortable
if you're one of those old school shampoo boles that
doesn't have the pillow on it.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Now, I mean yeah, I do remember being younger and
it just being massively uncomfortable. But I think now the
seats have you know, the built in either like you're saying,
the pillows or your hair chick should like put in
a towel or something. But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
So this one, there was a woman that had this
happen at the hair salon that she got I guess
it compressed it to the point where she developed a
clot in the vertebral artery, and then over the next
couple of weeks, the clot broke off and traveled to
her brain and she had a stroke.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
And that was giving symptoms of it.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I think it's crazy that they could pinpoint that.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Well, that's what I was saying, Like, that's what I
was thinking, because if I went to the hair salon
and I think she was saying, what one to two
days later she wasn't feeling well, I definitely wouldn't think
it was from there. Yeah, there has to be a
little bit more like and the symptoms they provided in
this article were the same symptoms they give you for
every other like if you have the flu, if you
(30:07):
have it generalized, if you're having a stroke, I mean
just in general, when you're you could have positional asphyxia
kind of. I guess you would say a compression of
your vessels. I mean it happens to you all the time, Right,
You're sitting there with your legs crossed, and then all
of a sudden, your foot falls asleep.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Like that's what's happening. You're compressing the nerves, You're compressing
the blood supply, right, you know when you get pins
and needles versus that really really gross.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Feeling where your legs, like completely, yes.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Like that's what's that's what's happening there. So it could
happen when you're pregnant. Your heavy uterus can compress on
your inferior being a kiva and could cause you to
Like when I had to go to the dentist or
something when I was pregnant, or any kind of thing
where you have to lay back like that, Like I
couldn't do it even with the ultra sense.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
It was weird.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I was like, I feel like I'm going to pass
out because it was compressing so bad. So, I mean,
in theory it's a thing. I just I can't believe.
I don't understand how they're able to pinpoint it to
exactly that, because if she went in with a stroke,
how would they I don't know. It's just it just
(31:21):
kind of is like a stretch to me a little
bit to say this caused this.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Well, they're saying only fifty four cases of it have
been identified over forty eight years, so I would consider
this to be pretty rare if roughly one's happening.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
If it happened acutely, like right in the chair something
like that, Then I would say, okay, that that definitely
is causitive, unless unless she said, you know what, I
did get my hair done a day ago and I
got up and I felt dizzy and they had to
give me water, and you know, like if there was
like something happened at that time that she you know,
(31:57):
because sometimes they'll say like, have you been feeling well?
What's been going on? And then you would say, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Know what, I was seeing spots the other day. It
could have been that, you know whatever, it was.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
So all right, Well, I guess new fear unlocked for
those of us who go to the air slots. I
think I think it's a pretty slim chance it's gonna
happen to anybody, But I guess just be aware of
your neck. Kerts Okay, guys, On Sunday, we're going to
be sponsoring the golf carts at the Keeping Hope Alive IVF,
a golf Classic, and then next Saturday we're going to
(32:31):
be doing a live show at Dark sid New Jersey
in Edison.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah, you guys should definitely go to that if you
live in Jersey or New York or Pennsylvania, or if
you want to take a road trip, because I think,
just aside from us doing the live show, which will
be amazing enough and worth the ride, I think that
the stuff that that the little snippets I'm seeing of
their promos looks like there's gonna be some really cool
(32:55):
stuff for sal there. So, I mean, pretty Christmas is
coming up, and you know, it's far away from Christmas,
but like when you have someone in your life like
me that likes different stuff, sometimes it's hard to find
something cool, and there you definitely will find something cool.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
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