February 27, 2025 • 37 mins
Kevin and Casey ask the inevitable question: do you GOTTA get down on Friday? Kevin, a “Friday virgin”, hears the song for the first time. Will the boys say “TGIF!” or “TTYL!”
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Give it a chance, Give it a chance. Give it
a chick. Come morning, Give it a chance, Give it
a chance, give it a chance, Give it a chick
come morning. Give it a You want to give it
a chance, Give it a chance, give it a chance.
Just give it a Kevin. Oh wow, Okay, this is
(00:22):
how we talk for the entire episode.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Look at the size of my forehead right now.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It looks beautiful.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You can see it looks like it's going nice. That's
all gonna go.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
O caase God, if.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You go to Turkey, what happens in Turkey?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You could get the Turkish plugs. Everyone's going. Everyone's going
to Turkey, keV, Is that real? Everyone? It's like the
Brazilian butt lift. It's the Turks. It's for men. It's
the Turkey Turkey hair plants.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
The Turkey hair plants. Okay, I got you. Sounds good
to me.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And I don't mean turks and caicos, No, I know.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
What you mean. Trucks onoes. Yes, okay, well it's good
to we cover that, not that I need it. Every
time I get my haircut, I ask sard, I shave
it all off, and you can tell me whenever. I
trust you and the stylist is always like, no, you're fine.
You're forty five years old. It's good, you have the
right amount of hair, you're you're you're doing fine. Yes,
(01:19):
you see that? Can you see that?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I do see that? When you could put that on
them a little timer.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, I know, I can put up a little time callack, yeah,
call it back to Omar the Last. But this is
Omar the Next.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So I have a big list of tunes that I
want to get to eventually, but just to pull back
the curtain a little bit, which I love to do.
I'm in a shower. I want to I want to
send you two songs. I'm not going to say both
names out loud. You're just gonna tell me which one
you want to do.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Oh wow?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Is that okay? Because just in case we get to
the to the other one, send you two songs. Tell
me which one you want to do? Baby, all right, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Great because oh so the first one I don't think
I know.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So let's do the first one. Okay, great, you have
to This is impossible.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Let's find out well and look, last up, we talked
a little bit, or at one point you were saying
something and about beyond and I said beyond meat. You
didn't stop, but this time you said impossible. So I
do just want to shout out impossible meat. Please contind.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, honestly, I'm gonna call Satan to kill you. This song.
The people who are listening know this song, and I
don't believe that they. I don't believe that they believe
that you don't know the song.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
All right, well let's find out.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Okay, it's called Rebecca Black Friday.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
So is it Rebecca Black Friday?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Rebecca Black Friday, you're saying I have to know it.
I'm surprised you don't, but I would love to see
you listen. I actually you need to watch the video
for this one.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Why you hated it?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No, I just you know, I got other stuff going on.
I'm like, while we do these, I'm like checking my stocks.
I'm like, all right, so you want to see a
video for Rebecca Black.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
We'll be right. I'm Rebecca Black. Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Wack? So what I think is I think I was away?
Like I I'm pretty sure I knew this was something.
I think I forgot that it was something. But I'm
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pretty sure I've never heard this before, like.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So thirteen years ago would have been twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
That's late boring a lot. So maybe you missed it.
Maybe you weren't like laptopping as much as the rest
of the world was.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But I also feel like in twenty twelve, I was
thirty three. Is it possible that I would have just
missed this? Yeah, I think maybe as a thing. You know,
one hundred and seventy three million people watched it. That's
fucking crazy. I also do feel like I'm surprised I
would have for sure, given the aesthetics of this, both
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visually and musically. I thought this was like a two
thousand and seven six seven thing. Something about the haircuts,
something about my musical references, something about I really thought
this was maybe around that time. Wow, what a ride.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Holy shit, such a ride. I haven't listened to that
in a long time, I remember. I mean, it's it's
interesting because it's this is this is Chocolate Rain Territory,
because it's like people love to hate it. They love it,
but they I think people like it because it's bad
in certain ways. It's obviously infectious, catchy, but it's also
I mean, there's a whole bridge where they explain the
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days of the life.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I want to spend a little time with the bridge
when the time comes. Yea, because I was that that's
the part. I mean, we can, I could let's go,
let's come back to that.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, what do you think? What are your overall thoughts
on Rebecca's Black Friday?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I mean, I love first of all, I love that.
When you sent it to me, I genuinely was like, oh,
is this a song by somebody named Rebecca about Black Friday?
Like is this going to be in like an anti
consumerist or pro consumerist? Like I got excited for the
stampede stampede, but uh so the thing about something like this,
(05:28):
which maybe to our chances, I mean, and who cares,
it's not like this is you know, bulletproof scientific method,
and even the scientific method exists to improve upon itself
over time. But I do feel like maybe this will
sound like a contradiction of terms or like a double
standard shit like this. I don't have my like fucking
(05:51):
knives drawn for shit like this. So true, It's just
it's a thing that's existed forever. Maybe what you could
make the argument, but I think this could be like
a generationalist or agist in reverse argument. I think every
generation thinks the disposable pop nonsense of the generations to
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follow is worse in like like a degraded version of like,
I don't know whatever. I'm sure people who grew up
in the nineteen fifties and sixties think like, the disposable
pop music of the fifties and sixties was so much
better than the disposable pop music of the seventies and eighties,
and you know what I mean, and on and on.
So I guess you could make an argument that something
critical could be like just like I don't know this.
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You could criticize this on the on the basis of
like how kind of like I don't know, like unadventurous
aspects of the music, or that the mickey mouseisation of
everything in the sounds and that.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
But there might be a POV that like, I don't
think people hate this is what you're getting at, Like
I don't think I certainly we certainly don't. Yeah, there
might have been like all right, if you think of
someone right like this is a hypothetical, but like chapel
Rone seven years ago, where she's trying to like break
in and then a song like this goes viral and
she's like, I'm going for pop, but I'm like more
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earnest about it. I write, I feel like I deserve this, Yeah,
And I could see the person like that being like,
why are people wasting their time with this, like when
there's like real art out there right that I'm just
trying to put myself into some shoes of a person
that might be like detest this, but those are certainly
not my shoes. My shoes are really nice nikes. My
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shoes don't hate this. They in fact think it's fun
that the internet can kind of blow up something like
this and totally like if you look underneath, there's like
tour dates and she's still riding this wave of like
it feels like it feels like an elevated version of
a girl that made a music video for a school project.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It blew up you are, that's the thing. And maybe
I don't think I ever would have like found the
energy to hate maybe when I was not since I
was like maybe, I guess even though when you were
a teenager, I'm thinking about like even as I liked
like more as I was getting into like darker pop music,
because all that shit was pop music. It was all
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on TV. It was all on the radio. It's not
like Alison and Chane a weird all of that stuff was.
It would be like Z one hundred and nineteen ninety
three was playing like music like this, Yeah, like nothing
but a g thing and then like.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Were all Stars now in the Dope Show and like
Close nine inch Nails, Closer and Backstreet Boys. You know,
it's like.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
All of it was, yes, exactly, So it's in a
way it's all pop music. But I definitely don't think
like I don't feel some sort of deep seated negative
response or anything like this. But what I do think
is what you just nailed is not only is it
not for me, and at this point not only was
something like this wasn't for me in twenty twelve. Now
it's like so many degrees removed from being for me,
(09:00):
but it's definitely for my almost nine year old daughter,
who I'm sure would hear this. It's a song about
like getting done with school for the week and hanging
out with your friends. There is no greater I mean,
by the way, SO is like half of the Rolling Stones,
half of like SO is a lot of music, you
know is basically like about like camaraderie and shuffling, shuffling
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off of responsibility. I love that. The principle like, like,
what's it called like narrative friction in this song is
she's got to make a decision about where she's gonna
sit in the car. Oh, she's like, it's so amazing
to me that she's like, like, that's the thing. Also
is there's a certain there's a certain thing about something
like this that almost in a weird way, And maybe
(09:47):
this is going to sound too heady or or but
it's what my it's a gut reaction something like this
almost in a weird way. It's what's someone like David Lynch,
I feel like made a whole career out of this
almost is not David Lynch and this they're not esthetically related.
What he saw in things though, he saw like pure Americana, right,
(10:08):
like kids hanging out in a car like the Beach
Boys Forward or whatever. And then what he saw under
it was there's like, you know, if you pick up
that rock or whatever in the perfectly manicured suburban garden,
there's lots like bugs and worms and weird, fucking creepy
shit happening. If you cut into that apple tree. There's
like sap and you know whatever. I feel like something
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like this it almost weirdly becomes avant garde to me
in some crazy way because it's so locked into It's like,
even if it's not conscious of that at all, there's
something about it that I'm like, oh, yeah, this is
like almost weirder than something that's self consciously weird. Does
that make sense.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, I'll walk that path right now with you, and
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I can walk it with it. There is your walk dog.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
My walk is incredible and I walk my dog often.
She gets a plenty of exercise. No, but I'll walk
this and I'll tell you this. I think that this
is obviously a first This is obviously a first draft,
Like there's no editing, the lyrics, like and this is
this comes from these producers that the guy who raps
(11:14):
later on I.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Was gonna ask what's up with that?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
So I think the whole video and production team like
will find like we'll make these. I think there's a
few songs like this where they've made a song for
somebody and it's like some of it has gone viral
like this, and others don't. But it's like a team
that produces a video and so this, you know, I
don't know if this Rebecca her family or she paid
for this to be done or what. I don't know
(11:37):
what the full story is. Don't quote me, but you
could tell that she wrote these lyrics and then they
looked at it and said, let's record it verbatim. We hope,
because there's even just the part where she's in the
car and she's like, I have my friend to the
right of me, but there's also a girl the whole left,
and you're like, I.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Love, of course you are, you are right. There were
multiple times where I was led to think there would
be a yin and a yang, and the yin just
fell off the table, which is kind of what I mean.
But it's not quite like because while there may not
have been edits to the lyric, there are copious and
abundant This is a very meticulously crafted product, yes pop
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song and like even like I was listening to those
open high hats in the chorus and I was like,
I don't think that's a real drum.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Definitely not now.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It sounds for sure like somebody going There's.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
A lot of times on this podcast where I go, yeah,
I don't really like the song, but like I could
really attach to the bass. I'm like, I don't think
there there is much bass. I think it's drums, and
then an arpeggiator moving chords.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And her just sort of saying, which maybe like this
this is I think that that is totally legit. I
laughed out loud when she said I got my friend
to am I right, and then some other things on
her left kind of like.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, so exciting, were so exciting. We've done have a
daulted day.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Oh there's another word. It's just like it's like yesterday
was Thursday, today is Friday. We we we so excited,
so excited, it's like just extra wheeze.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I feel like, was that the are we going? Is
that the bridge?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
That's the beginning of the bridge? You want to tell
you don't want to take it to the bridge?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I thought the bridge was actually no, no, what's like,
no joking around, no disingenuousness here When I say this,
I thought the bridge was actually, yes, no irony, right,
that's legitimately that is legitimately strange. That is a legitimately
like act to a point where you're like, yo, that's
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weirder than like Daniel Johnston. To me, that's weirder that
like like she's just fucking saying how time and a
calendar works.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
The word afterwards kill Tomorrow is Saturday and Sunday comes
afterwards is nuts. That's alien shit, that's this is actually
this is like a decade before AI. Like AI can't
even touch this, like it's so pure that but it
feels AI adjacent.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
You're you're one hundred. Well, it's certainly like not how
people talk and certainly not how like a kid who's
trying to Like the thing is, I don't know if
what you're saying, what you're saying might be true. I'm
having some like distant, vague half ghost memory. Is this
the person? I don't know, I'm like seeing things.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
We gotta stop the pod and talk.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Honestly, I need like ghost But there is is this
the person whose parents did Wasn't there a person who
had a song like this at some point? And one
of the things was it was like fully almost like
he's just sweet sixteen present sweetheart, like they made it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
It could be this, Yeah, this could be that.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It was something like that with one and I'm not
talking about like the typical kind of whatever nepotistic industry
plant story. I mean, like somebody who fully it was
just like yeah, and then it weirdly like part of
the story was that and it connected it. I don't
know if this is her or not.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
There's another song like that. I can't remember his name,
but it's so funny. Dude. It's like a boy who
writes this song and it's produced really well, like clearly
the parents paid for it. I I it's killing me.
He's just like he said something like my name is Brian,
and I am i ate lyon or whatever like and
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it's like there's these like backtracks and he's like he's
like and I could do anything. And it's like this
cgi like or a green screen video and it's it's
so I'm gonna send it. I'm going to find it
and send it later. That should be something people who
know are screaming at me at like the name of
the song and like now I haven't seen it in years,
but it's unbelievable. We're talking like it's right up there
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with this and even beyond that with catatonic youth style,
like it's vibe.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yes, yo, that's if you do not follow that account.
That dude is great catatonic youths. Catatonic youth I think
is the backup on uh I G you know what
I G is.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I don't think there's honestly, there's there's not an account
that hits home runs as as often that dude.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
That dude is Joe DiMaggio. It's just the streak is unending.
But that's the thing, Like, I think there's something about
it that it's so that to made me think, I know,
it might sound like fucking again over unnecessarily oh intellectualized,
not it's not on purpose. That's what made me think
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of David Lynch. It's like the war, like the like
rotten cherry inside the cherry pie, and something about this
person like yeah, that bridge. I actually had a moment
during the bridge not to sound where I was like
I had a like whoa Like I was trying to
follow it, and I was like, wow, this is really
weird that this would be in like I'm a little
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I'm not a little girl. I'm a teenage girl doing
party games, hanging out with my friends and stuff. And
also this is how a calendar works, Like there was
something that like time slowed down and I was like,
what the fuck is this because she's still kind of
like it's smiling, but saying like Thursday comes first and
then Fridays afterwards or whatever. And I was like, this
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is bizarre.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And that's why it makes me feel like they really
let her just do the lyrics and they did try
to clean it up, whereas like, there's there's a song
that Lisa showed me once which is like one of
the Real Housewives. I think it's Teresa, her daughter put
out a song and they produced it, and it feels
like she didn't write it, and it feels like she
was involved in some ways because of her enthusiasm on it.
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In some ways, I actually like think the track is
kind of cute, and there's a music video, but that
feels overly produced. It takes me out of it. This
feels like they didn't edit. They were like Becky, which
the how they what they call her Becky you go girl?
Because that back then, this was long enough ago that
they would say.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
That Becky you go girl. You think they would have.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Said that they were saying Becky, you go girl.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I had read and because I did a lot of
research on this too, I had read actually because I
didn't know you were going to bring this, but I
knew someday you might bring this, and I didn't want
to listen to the song or get too familiarized with
certain aspects of it. But I did do a pretty
deep dive into some of the like kind of subtext.
I had heard that the producer, of course, whose name
is Reginald whents this last I had read that he
(18:53):
said to her at one point he was like, Becky,
listen you go, girl. But at the same time, when
will you start to sing about Black Friday in this song?
And it was a sight of major contention between Reverend
Wenceslas and Becky though, yeah, you should read that article.
It's on Wickanpedia.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Wickins.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah. Yeah. But getting back to the song, I also
want to shout out you did bring up green screen
for that kid, Brian I'm not Lions video. There is
some amazing green screen happening in this video too, where
they're in the car and they're driving. I guess it's
like supposed to be Friday night and there's just like
the city behind them, whatever city that is, whether it's
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like Miami or something. But that also that also gave
it the feel of actually like yeah, like almost like
this was something that was done for somebody's sweet sixteen
or something that then accidentally became like a viral sensation
because there was something about that that just was like
it was so egregious that it almost felt like daring
(19:58):
you to take it serious, you know what I mean,
the quality of the green screen things. So I'm like
that there was no way this was like supposed to
be released that couldn't have been. But I also feel
like with the bridge, this is also with this has
come up before in one of our songs that we did.
I can't remember which one now, but like, there is
also a certain school of pop songwriting, which is I
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think there's like two diametrically opposed approaches to bridge writing.
One is like the bridge is the most important part
of the song, and I kind of think that's true.
I think for a bridge to exist, it's got to
be like really good, like really really deserved to be there,
because it's usually typically only happens one time. It's sort
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of meant to only happen one time, so it's an event,
and so then it's got to be like really really
especially also by that point in a song a typically
structured pop song. You're introducing a new idea, so it's
got to either be like really really solid or the
other school is people just like do whatever the fuck
you want, Like the bridge. Let's have a bridge for
str for reasons, but it doesn't matter. This definitely feels
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to me like maybe it's yeah, Becky, you go girl
when you start to talk about Black Friday. Maybe she
got flum mixed about the Black Friday part and just
maybe just enlisting days of the weeks, you know what?
Maybe too?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
How did you? How do you wait?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
So?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
How do you rate this bridge?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I look, I freaked out about the bridge because it
was a good bridge. I mean, it's memorable. It's certainly as.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
There's also a rap first? Did you did you have
the did you watch the version with the rap first?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I said out loud when the rapper came on? And
who is that? That's the producer.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
It's Patrice Wilson. I just looked it up.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Do you know Patrese? Nope, not like Purse.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I don't know him personally or professionally.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
He's confident. He definitely played the part. He also enjoyed
the green screen behind him driving.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Around let's go to the meat. Let's get to the
meat of this. Is your mom going to text you
about this?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Listen?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I never know she's not as if worthy enough of
a text from your mom. A deep track, A deep
track from Eminem's catalog.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It's deep Wilson track.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
This, No, this.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Is the top of the line.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
That's true. You know, you're right. He definitely has, you
know that he has. I think he's like one either.
I think he's in like that this collective that makes
these these music videos and songs, produces jpeg moff he is.
I think he's on a bunch of them. So like
he's kind of a connecting part of the universe.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
He's the bridge.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
He's the guy in all the David Lynch films. You know.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It's yeah, oh uh yeah, yeah, he's Wow, that's a
major player. He's a major player in this universe.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
He says. So I'm chilling in the front seat, in
the back seat, which is interesting that he's in both.
I'm driving cruising, which is both. Then he's his fast lanes,
switching lanes with a car on my side passing by.
Is a school bus in front of me? TikTok TikTok.
Wanna scream. Check my time, it's Friday. Check my time.
(23:03):
It's Friday. It's a weekend. We gonna have fun. Come on,
come on, y'all.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Wait wait wait, wait, wait wait, you have to you
have to read that again. You have to read that.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I go from the top. RB. Rebecca Black, so chilling
in the front seat, in the back seat.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Wait pause, so he says, RB. Rebecca Black. Yes, I
thought you were doing stage direction like that was Rebecca
Black about to talk?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Okay, I'll do stage direction this time. Verse three, Patrese Wilson. Okay, RB.
Rebecca Black so chilling in the front seat, in the
back seat, I'm driving cruise in time out, laying yep.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I have to pause at every point. We have a question.
That is this is making me fucking love it so
much more. That is categorical nonsense. That is absolutely that's
like vacant of any logic meaning, and not even in
some cool like Jackson Poula way where it's like, I
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don't know, you splatter the paint and then I'm down
with that kind of lyric, right, And you know how
I think about like, you know, there's a couple of
people I've talked about a few times on this. I'm
not going to get into it, but like you know,
damn that style. Yeah, definitely the needs n But like
I do think you said Gary sneeze. I didn't, Dan,
but I definitely do think that there's also like there's
(24:21):
like collage splatter paint where meaning aggregates and a feeling
is evoked. Then they categorical Sure, then there's categorical nonsense
that I'm chilling in the front seat back seat is
fucking crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I don't understand it. RB Rebecca Black So chilling in
the front seat in the back seat, I'm driving, cruising
fast lanes, switching lanes with a car up on my
side hopefully, I mean, yeah, passing by is a school
bus in front of me? Passing by? Is a school bus?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Fay had a grocical nonsense.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
He must be going kind of slow if a school
bus is passing in front of him.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Maybe he's like having an episode where he thinks he's
going fast. But he's like he's having like a delusional
episode while he's driving school bus. Passing by a school
bus in front of me?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Okay, ready, this is an incredible sentence. Makes TikTok, TikTok
want to scream?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Now? Is this pre the existence of TikTok and the controversy?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's yeah, pre both. It's spelled t c K t
c K. It's like a clock which then he goes
to check my time.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's Friday, and again, Friday is a day and not
a time. But I mean you could, okay, fine, you
could say it's this time on Friday. Hey, you want
to meet up at eight am on Friday to have
bacon and wound eggs.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's Friday. The idea it's always Friday somewhere.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
But you don't say it's Friday o'clock somewhere.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
You do. You say it's Friday something. Hey, it's Friday somewhere.
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Someone says that. Someone might say, yo, dude, you want
to hit Yo dude? You want to you want to
hit this kratum?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, you say, and you say, hey, even a broke
clock is Friday. Two times.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You say that even a broke clock passes a school
bus in front of it. Sometimes that is absolute bullshit.
I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, I think you feel the same way. I didn't
think that the lyrics were like this. I was like, Okay,
he spit averse and I didn't really think about it.
But then when you look at it, you're like, wait,
did he he like rarely rhymed?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Even oh, that's so funny, I will say that even
with there is something like where, you know, have we
talked about this before? I feel like there is a
thing where, like poets, actual poets write will sometimes be
like a little like, oh my god, when someone calls
a songwriter a poet, it's almost like poetry is songwriters
(27:10):
songwritings like older distinguished sibling or something. And I feel
like there are some songwriters who, when you read their
lyrics independently of vocalization and the meter afforded by by song,
they do feel like they could stand with literature, with poetry.
But there are a lot of even really good lyricists,
(27:30):
I think, who when you read it alone, it doesn't
really hit you the same way. It's very rare. And
I what's funny is I remember when I was like
twenty one twenty maybe as a gag gift, someone got
me the book. It was called Angry Blonde. It was
Eminem's lyrics just as a book from his first two records,
and I will say reading his lyrics divorced from the music.
(27:52):
They were kind of like it was a little ridiculous,
Like you were like, this is like thirty five percent
stupider and less impressive, and he's like a canonically great
rapper lyricist and rapper top ten in many people's estimation, right,
your mom for sure, certainly, well, but again not in
two thousand, my mom gets on board and like, well,
(28:14):
actually lose yourself. As with many people, I think lose
yourself was the gateway.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Or gateweight drawing. She was like, I'm always the gateway drug.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, she was stoned. My mom was definitely like she
was like a feel so alone? Shall may? And they
were definitely sitting there smoking up. Anyway, listen, I don't
want to tell my mom's drug use on this pod anymore.
This is like becoming an Eminem. I gotta say it
for John Also, Eminem is constantly like my mom did
(28:43):
drugs and stuff like that. It's Bob Dylan Eminem.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Mon did duds.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But anyway, so yeah, that being said this, this definitely
does not pass the lyrist lyricist as poet tests. This
reading read it's berserk. It's really really berserk.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
It passes Bechdell, though Becky passes Bechdell.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Becky passes Bechtel. She does, does she because she talks
about her one friend on the right she never talks
about Does.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
She ever talked about the boy? She does? Not? Actually, good, yeah,
good question.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
But now that's something I loved about this. I'd never
thought there was one point where she's like, I gotta
crash on James and he's two foot eight or whatever.
She would say.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
To this guy's hot. It's a baby, She's gotta crush
on it.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Toddler, I gotta crash on James in the negative second grade.
You're like negative second grade. Okay, so two that's kindergarten.
I guess that's just kindergarten.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yesterday was Thursday, Tomorrow says, So it's really wild that. Yeah,
all right, so read me the bridge. No, God, damn it,
I'm gonna go back. Because the other thing that people
love about this is how she like doesn't even take
a breath, Like she's just like seven am, waking up
in the morning, gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs, gotta
(30:09):
have my bowl, gotta have cereal. Seeing everything that time
is going ticking on and on everybody.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
So that's where he got the TikTok thing from. He
was calling back to her first verse against calendars.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I know, so we're the fucking idiots.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I guess this time it's you and me. Okay's and
not fucking lives.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
His name the rapper Trees Wilson, I know, I know.
Gesting next week, that's.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's season two for sure. As we get people from.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Season one to guest with us, give us a chance,
it's called all right.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Kind of amazing. Just like people get the chance to
savage anything of ours they would like to do.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
That's so great. They're like for me, they're like your daughter.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Like whoa, whoa, that is not on the table.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
She's literally on the table.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I got a crush on James and hist eight. All right, sorry, okay,
So yeah, what you're really highlighting is the lyrics are well,
she was what how old was Rebecca when she wrote this?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I think she's obviously like in fifth grade? Oh my god, Kevin,
it just came back to me, and it's it's called
I'm Zach. No, it's called I'm Zach the boy. I
finally just got it. It's I'm Zach and it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Oh no, do you think, wow, I have I have
Zach in my life, A big Zach in my life.
I'm gonna have to find this and send it to him.
That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It's an unbelievable video. It's for another time, and it's
also five minutes and twenty one seconds.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Which would bring us to the very end. So imagine
we just were silent watching that for the rest of
it of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
You just hear us like like just like it's like
smacking our lips listening. Not that we're smacking in terms
of like we like this child. Oh god, I just
meant like it's just silence.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Wow. I didn't expect you to go there, But like,
if that's the kind of shit we're gonna talk about
on this pod, like, let me know. I'm ready to
go anywhere you want.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
No, it's a homework assignment, is why who knows today
I'm bringing up I'm Zach as a homework assignment. Find
the video. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
It's if you use a homework assignment for me or
for them chancers or all of us.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
It's for both, okay, because we're all chancers in this
together tiny chair.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, that's true. That's true. Giving yourself homework.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Dude, nerd a teacher, you forgot to give us homework.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And I'm the teacher and I'm the student. Give me
home work. I'll give me home work.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
The teacher yelling at this alone in a classroom. You've
got to go with homework.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Okay, here it is.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
That's how it's like a grat grad stuble student who's
like gotta just like stable, all right, anyway.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, tell us the homework ahead.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Fine, I'm zach, watch it and enjoy your life, and
that song will help you do it.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Honestly, what you just said, is there a thing? Can
I talk about some Casey Jo just cannon for a second.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I think we can, because what you just said.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Around me is it okay to talk about? Maybe The
first thing I ever saw of Casey's was it was
it was probably Bulldog. That's the first thing that anybody
showed me. Or no, was that you were you?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yes, I was with the.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Boat with the now Bobo Touch Boys and Mike Stramberg
and Joe and Burgio.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Probably right, it was me. Joe, my friend Mark and
Pat were the main four for a sitcom that was
sort of a tongue in cheeks sitcom that packs in films,
which is that's what our good friends like Rizzo Stranberg
and Bonds, the brothers that have different last names for
fun that they created, and I, I mean my friends
(34:12):
what we call ourselves the Trophy Laugh Gang. So good.
This is deep canon. This is this is Nick.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
This is deep canon. This is Nick Cannon, Nick Carryon's
hilarious dad. But what I do remember is, is there
a thing what we were just talking about.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Which really Bulldog was a character I played in a video,
I mean in college.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
In Great Hills Park or something or where were you?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Were you that was like in Jersey somewhere like like
North Jersey at like a friend's house.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But there was something in it that this is making
me think of the idea of like a teacher talking
and gesturing to themselves about like you should get this homework,
no you or whatever to themselves. Wasn't there something about
like it's does Bulldog say something like it struck me?
He said it struck me that bah, and so something
about sting someone. Can you help me with this?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, yeah, it was just like strike me so I
punched him or something.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, there was something about it, you know what strike
me as the kind of person who would.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Us And then I said crush and I do strike you,
and then I punched him in the face. I think
there was something.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
There's something about that that reminded me of the teacher
talking to themselves about self administering homework. I don't know why,
saying something about the way he tells the story. Anyway,
what I'm saying is it's well worth your time. I'm
giving you homework two chances. There's not only one teach
on the watch today. You have to teach double teach
each of us one foot four and if you add
(35:31):
together students, what you get to foot eight? And so
do you have a crush on Yeah, I have a
crush on James all you want. And also listen to
that High Sac song and also check out Bulldog. It's
probably on YouTube somewhere. SCREI.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
So I think I took all everything I've ever made
down just because it feels like it was thirty years ago,
because I think, yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I probably was probably twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
And even Rebecca Black now it's you know, she's she's
up there in age.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Oh, I'll just also say about Rebecca Black. Sorry to
bring us back, I will say one thing that again,
I don't know how old this person was at the time,
but I do know twenty twelve. This does feel it
feels antiquated. For twenty twelve, This for sure feels like
a mid two thousands at most recent thing to me.
(36:21):
Something about the haircuts, something about it. So I just
want to make sure I drive that home. I feel
like that's part of its charm, is that it feels
in twenty twelve. The references self conscious, self aware or
not were not even they It hadn't happened long enough
for it to be cool again yet, which its charm too. Exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yes, it's that is the charm. It's it's amazing. It's
it's up there with like Kesha TikTok or a Katy
Perry song, but it's.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Like toast that did Patrice write that?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Well, we'll find out next week when Patrise sits in
as guest. Love you all do your Home Musk
Give it a chance, Give it a chance. Give it
a chick. Come morning, Give it a chance, Give it
a chance, give it a chance, Give it a chick
come morning. Give it a You want to give it
a chance, Give it a chance, give it a chance.
Just give it a Kevin. Oh wow, Okay, this is
(00:22):
how we talk for the entire episode.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Look at the size of my forehead right now.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It looks beautiful.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
You can see it looks like it's going nice. That's
all gonna go.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
O caase God, if.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
You go to Turkey, what happens in Turkey?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You could get the Turkish plugs. Everyone's going. Everyone's going
to Turkey, keV, Is that real? Everyone? It's like the
Brazilian butt lift. It's the Turks. It's for men. It's
the Turkey Turkey hair plants.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
The Turkey hair plants. Okay, I got you. Sounds good
to me.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And I don't mean turks and caicos, No, I know.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
What you mean. Trucks onoes. Yes, okay, well it's good
to we cover that, not that I need it. Every
time I get my haircut, I ask sard, I shave
it all off, and you can tell me whenever. I
trust you and the stylist is always like, no, you're fine.
You're forty five years old. It's good, you have the
right amount of hair, you're you're you're doing fine. Yes,
(01:19):
you see that? Can you see that?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I do see that? When you could put that on
them a little timer.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, I know, I can put up a little time callack, yeah,
call it back to Omar the Last. But this is
Omar the Next.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
So I have a big list of tunes that I
want to get to eventually, but just to pull back
the curtain a little bit, which I love to do.
I'm in a shower. I want to I want to
send you two songs. I'm not going to say both
names out loud. You're just gonna tell me which one
you want to do.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Oh wow?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Is that okay? Because just in case we get to
the to the other one, send you two songs. Tell
me which one you want to do? Baby, all right, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Great because oh so the first one I don't think
I know.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So let's do the first one. Okay, great, you have
to This is impossible.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Let's find out well and look, last up, we talked
a little bit, or at one point you were saying
something and about beyond and I said beyond meat. You
didn't stop, but this time you said impossible. So I
do just want to shout out impossible meat. Please contind.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, honestly, I'm gonna call Satan to kill you. This song.
The people who are listening know this song, and I
don't believe that they. I don't believe that they believe
that you don't know the song.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
All right, well let's find out.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Okay, it's called Rebecca Black Friday.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
So is it Rebecca Black Friday?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Rebecca Black Friday, you're saying I have to know it.
I'm surprised you don't, but I would love to see
you listen. I actually you need to watch the video
for this one.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Why you hated it?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
No, I just you know, I got other stuff going on.
I'm like, while we do these, I'm like checking my stocks.
I'm like, all right, so you want to see a
video for Rebecca Black.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
We'll be right. I'm Rebecca Black. Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Wack? So what I think is I think I was away?
Like I I'm pretty sure I knew this was something.
I think I forgot that it was something. But I'm
(03:36):
pretty sure I've never heard this before, like.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So thirteen years ago would have been twenty twelve.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
That's late boring a lot. So maybe you missed it.
Maybe you weren't like laptopping as much as the rest
of the world was.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
But I also feel like in twenty twelve, I was
thirty three. Is it possible that I would have just
missed this? Yeah, I think maybe as a thing. You know,
one hundred and seventy three million people watched it. That's
fucking crazy. I also do feel like I'm surprised I
would have for sure, given the aesthetics of this, both
(04:14):
visually and musically. I thought this was like a two
thousand and seven six seven thing. Something about the haircuts,
something about my musical references, something about I really thought
this was maybe around that time. Wow, what a ride.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Holy shit, such a ride. I haven't listened to that
in a long time, I remember. I mean, it's it's
interesting because it's this is this is Chocolate Rain Territory,
because it's like people love to hate it. They love it,
but they I think people like it because it's bad
in certain ways. It's obviously infectious, catchy, but it's also
I mean, there's a whole bridge where they explain the
(04:54):
days of the life.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I want to spend a little time with the bridge
when the time comes. Yea, because I was that that's
the part. I mean, we can, I could let's go,
let's come back to that.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, what do you think? What are your overall thoughts
on Rebecca's Black Friday?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I mean, I love first of all, I love that.
When you sent it to me, I genuinely was like, oh,
is this a song by somebody named Rebecca about Black Friday?
Like is this going to be in like an anti
consumerist or pro consumerist? Like I got excited for the
stampede stampede, but uh so the thing about something like this,
(05:28):
which maybe to our chances, I mean, and who cares,
it's not like this is you know, bulletproof scientific method,
and even the scientific method exists to improve upon itself
over time. But I do feel like maybe this will
sound like a contradiction of terms or like a double
standard shit like this. I don't have my like fucking
(05:51):
knives drawn for shit like this. So true, It's just
it's a thing that's existed forever. Maybe what you could
make the argument, but I think this could be like
a generationalist or agist in reverse argument. I think every
generation thinks the disposable pop nonsense of the generations to
(06:15):
follow is worse in like like a degraded version of like,
I don't know whatever. I'm sure people who grew up
in the nineteen fifties and sixties think like, the disposable
pop music of the fifties and sixties was so much
better than the disposable pop music of the seventies and eighties,
and you know what I mean, and on and on.
So I guess you could make an argument that something
critical could be like just like I don't know this.
(06:39):
You could criticize this on the on the basis of
like how kind of like I don't know, like unadventurous
aspects of the music, or that the mickey mouseisation of
everything in the sounds and that.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
But there might be a POV that like, I don't
think people hate this is what you're getting at, Like
I don't think I certainly we certainly don't. Yeah, there
might have been like all right, if you think of
someone right like this is a hypothetical, but like chapel
Rone seven years ago, where she's trying to like break
in and then a song like this goes viral and
she's like, I'm going for pop, but I'm like more
(07:14):
earnest about it. I write, I feel like I deserve this, Yeah,
And I could see the person like that being like,
why are people wasting their time with this, like when
there's like real art out there right that I'm just
trying to put myself into some shoes of a person
that might be like detest this, but those are certainly
not my shoes. My shoes are really nice nikes. My
(07:36):
shoes don't hate this. They in fact think it's fun
that the internet can kind of blow up something like
this and totally like if you look underneath, there's like
tour dates and she's still riding this wave of like
it feels like it feels like an elevated version of
a girl that made a music video for a school project.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It blew up you are, that's the thing. And maybe
I don't think I ever would have like found the
energy to hate maybe when I was not since I
was like maybe, I guess even though when you were
a teenager, I'm thinking about like even as I liked
like more as I was getting into like darker pop music,
because all that shit was pop music. It was all
(08:18):
on TV. It was all on the radio. It's not
like Alison and Chane a weird all of that stuff was.
It would be like Z one hundred and nineteen ninety
three was playing like music like this, Yeah, like nothing
but a g thing and then like.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Were all Stars now in the Dope Show and like
Close nine inch Nails, Closer and Backstreet Boys. You know,
it's like.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
All of it was, yes, exactly, So it's in a
way it's all pop music. But I definitely don't think
like I don't feel some sort of deep seated negative
response or anything like this. But what I do think
is what you just nailed is not only is it
not for me, and at this point not only was
something like this wasn't for me in twenty twelve. Now
it's like so many degrees removed from being for me,
(09:00):
but it's definitely for my almost nine year old daughter,
who I'm sure would hear this. It's a song about
like getting done with school for the week and hanging
out with your friends. There is no greater I mean,
by the way, SO is like half of the Rolling Stones,
half of like SO is a lot of music, you
know is basically like about like camaraderie and shuffling, shuffling
(09:25):
off of responsibility. I love that. The principle like, like,
what's it called like narrative friction in this song is
she's got to make a decision about where she's gonna
sit in the car. Oh, she's like, it's so amazing
to me that she's like, like, that's the thing. Also
is there's a certain there's a certain thing about something
like this that almost in a weird way, And maybe
(09:47):
this is going to sound too heady or or but
it's what my it's a gut reaction something like this
almost in a weird way. It's what's someone like David Lynch,
I feel like made a whole career out of this
almost is not David Lynch and this they're not esthetically related.
What he saw in things though, he saw like pure Americana, right,
(10:08):
like kids hanging out in a car like the Beach
Boys Forward or whatever. And then what he saw under
it was there's like, you know, if you pick up
that rock or whatever in the perfectly manicured suburban garden,
there's lots like bugs and worms and weird, fucking creepy
shit happening. If you cut into that apple tree. There's
like sap and you know whatever. I feel like something
(10:29):
like this it almost weirdly becomes avant garde to me
in some crazy way because it's so locked into It's like,
even if it's not conscious of that at all, there's
something about it that I'm like, oh, yeah, this is
like almost weirder than something that's self consciously weird. Does
that make sense.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yeah, I'll walk that path right now with you, and
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
I can walk it with it. There is your walk dog.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
My walk is incredible and I walk my dog often.
She gets a plenty of exercise. No, but I'll walk
this and I'll tell you this. I think that this
is obviously a first This is obviously a first draft,
Like there's no editing, the lyrics, like and this is
this comes from these producers that the guy who raps
(11:14):
later on I.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Was gonna ask what's up with that?
Speaker 1 (11:17):
So I think the whole video and production team like
will find like we'll make these. I think there's a
few songs like this where they've made a song for
somebody and it's like some of it has gone viral
like this, and others don't. But it's like a team
that produces a video and so this, you know, I
don't know if this Rebecca her family or she paid
for this to be done or what. I don't know
(11:37):
what the full story is. Don't quote me, but you
could tell that she wrote these lyrics and then they
looked at it and said, let's record it verbatim. We hope,
because there's even just the part where she's in the
car and she's like, I have my friend to the
right of me, but there's also a girl the whole left,
and you're like, I.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Love, of course you are, you are right. There were
multiple times where I was led to think there would
be a yin and a yang, and the yin just
fell off the table, which is kind of what I mean.
But it's not quite like because while there may not
have been edits to the lyric, there are copious and
abundant This is a very meticulously crafted product, yes pop
(12:20):
song and like even like I was listening to those
open high hats in the chorus and I was like,
I don't think that's a real drum.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Definitely not now.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It sounds for sure like somebody going There's.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
A lot of times on this podcast where I go, yeah,
I don't really like the song, but like I could
really attach to the bass. I'm like, I don't think
there there is much bass. I think it's drums, and
then an arpeggiator moving chords.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
And her just sort of saying, which maybe like this
this is I think that that is totally legit. I
laughed out loud when she said I got my friend
to am I right, and then some other things on
her left kind of like.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, so exciting, were so exciting. We've done have a
daulted day.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Oh there's another word. It's just like it's like yesterday
was Thursday, today is Friday. We we we so excited,
so excited, it's like just extra wheeze.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
I feel like, was that the are we going? Is
that the bridge?
Speaker 1 (13:30):
That's the beginning of the bridge? You want to tell
you don't want to take it to the bridge?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I thought the bridge was actually no, no, what's like,
no joking around, no disingenuousness here When I say this,
I thought the bridge was actually, yes, no irony, right,
that's legitimately that is legitimately strange. That is a legitimately
like act to a point where you're like, yo, that's
(13:54):
weirder than like Daniel Johnston. To me, that's weirder that
like like she's just fucking saying how time and a
calendar works.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
The word afterwards kill Tomorrow is Saturday and Sunday comes
afterwards is nuts. That's alien shit, that's this is actually
this is like a decade before AI. Like AI can't
even touch this, like it's so pure that but it
feels AI adjacent.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
You're you're one hundred. Well, it's certainly like not how
people talk and certainly not how like a kid who's
trying to Like the thing is, I don't know if
what you're saying, what you're saying might be true. I'm
having some like distant, vague half ghost memory. Is this
the person? I don't know, I'm like seeing things.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
We gotta stop the pod and talk.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Honestly, I need like ghost But there is is this
the person whose parents did Wasn't there a person who
had a song like this at some point? And one
of the things was it was like fully almost like
he's just sweet sixteen present sweetheart, like they made it.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
It could be this, Yeah, this could be that.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
It was something like that with one and I'm not
talking about like the typical kind of whatever nepotistic industry
plant story. I mean, like somebody who fully it was
just like yeah, and then it weirdly like part of
the story was that and it connected it. I don't
know if this is her or not.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
There's another song like that. I can't remember his name,
but it's so funny. Dude. It's like a boy who
writes this song and it's produced really well, like clearly
the parents paid for it. I I it's killing me.
He's just like he said something like my name is Brian,
and I am i ate lyon or whatever like and
(15:49):
it's like there's these like backtracks and he's like he's
like and I could do anything. And it's like this
cgi like or a green screen video and it's it's
so I'm gonna send it. I'm going to find it
and send it later. That should be something people who
know are screaming at me at like the name of
the song and like now I haven't seen it in years,
but it's unbelievable. We're talking like it's right up there
(16:14):
with this and even beyond that with catatonic youth style,
like it's vibe.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yes, yo, that's if you do not follow that account.
That dude is great catatonic youths. Catatonic youth I think
is the backup on uh I G you know what
I G is.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I don't think there's honestly, there's there's not an account
that hits home runs as as often that dude.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
That dude is Joe DiMaggio. It's just the streak is unending.
But that's the thing, Like, I think there's something about
it that it's so that to made me think, I know,
it might sound like fucking again over unnecessarily oh intellectualized,
not it's not on purpose. That's what made me think
(17:01):
of David Lynch. It's like the war, like the like
rotten cherry inside the cherry pie, and something about this
person like yeah, that bridge. I actually had a moment
during the bridge not to sound where I was like
I had a like whoa Like I was trying to
follow it, and I was like, wow, this is really
weird that this would be in like I'm a little
(17:22):
I'm not a little girl. I'm a teenage girl doing
party games, hanging out with my friends and stuff. And
also this is how a calendar works, Like there was
something that like time slowed down and I was like,
what the fuck is this because she's still kind of
like it's smiling, but saying like Thursday comes first and
then Fridays afterwards or whatever. And I was like, this
(17:43):
is bizarre.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And that's why it makes me feel like they really
let her just do the lyrics and they did try
to clean it up, whereas like, there's there's a song
that Lisa showed me once which is like one of
the Real Housewives. I think it's Teresa, her daughter put
out a song and they produced it, and it feels
like she didn't write it, and it feels like she
was involved in some ways because of her enthusiasm on it.
(18:06):
In some ways, I actually like think the track is
kind of cute, and there's a music video, but that
feels overly produced. It takes me out of it. This
feels like they didn't edit. They were like Becky, which
the how they what they call her Becky you go girl?
Because that back then, this was long enough ago that
they would say.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
That Becky you go girl. You think they would have.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Said that they were saying Becky, you go girl.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I had read and because I did a lot of
research on this too, I had read actually because I
didn't know you were going to bring this, but I
knew someday you might bring this, and I didn't want
to listen to the song or get too familiarized with
certain aspects of it. But I did do a pretty
deep dive into some of the like kind of subtext.
I had heard that the producer, of course, whose name
is Reginald whents this last I had read that he
(18:53):
said to her at one point he was like, Becky,
listen you go, girl. But at the same time, when
will you start to sing about Black Friday in this song?
And it was a sight of major contention between Reverend
Wenceslas and Becky though, yeah, you should read that article.
It's on Wickanpedia.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Wickins.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah. Yeah. But getting back to the song, I also
want to shout out you did bring up green screen
for that kid, Brian I'm not Lions video. There is
some amazing green screen happening in this video too, where
they're in the car and they're driving. I guess it's
like supposed to be Friday night and there's just like
the city behind them, whatever city that is, whether it's
(19:35):
like Miami or something. But that also that also gave
it the feel of actually like yeah, like almost like
this was something that was done for somebody's sweet sixteen
or something that then accidentally became like a viral sensation
because there was something about that that just was like
it was so egregious that it almost felt like daring
(19:58):
you to take it serious, you know what I mean,
the quality of the green screen things. So I'm like
that there was no way this was like supposed to
be released that couldn't have been. But I also feel
like with the bridge, this is also with this has
come up before in one of our songs that we did.
I can't remember which one now, but like, there is
also a certain school of pop songwriting, which is I
(20:19):
think there's like two diametrically opposed approaches to bridge writing.
One is like the bridge is the most important part
of the song, and I kind of think that's true.
I think for a bridge to exist, it's got to
be like really good, like really really deserved to be there,
because it's usually typically only happens one time. It's sort
(20:40):
of meant to only happen one time, so it's an event,
and so then it's got to be like really really
especially also by that point in a song a typically
structured pop song. You're introducing a new idea, so it's
got to either be like really really solid or the
other school is people just like do whatever the fuck
you want, Like the bridge. Let's have a bridge for
str for reasons, but it doesn't matter. This definitely feels
(21:04):
to me like maybe it's yeah, Becky, you go girl
when you start to talk about Black Friday. Maybe she
got flum mixed about the Black Friday part and just
maybe just enlisting days of the weeks, you know what?
Maybe too?
Speaker 1 (21:15):
How did you? How do you wait?
Speaker 2 (21:17):
So?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
How do you rate this bridge?
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I look, I freaked out about the bridge because it
was a good bridge. I mean, it's memorable. It's certainly as.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
There's also a rap first? Did you did you have
the did you watch the version with the rap first?
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I said out loud when the rapper came on? And
who is that? That's the producer.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
It's Patrice Wilson. I just looked it up.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Do you know Patrese? Nope, not like Purse.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I don't know him personally or professionally.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
He's confident. He definitely played the part. He also enjoyed
the green screen behind him driving.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Around let's go to the meat. Let's get to the
meat of this. Is your mom going to text you
about this?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Listen?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I never know she's not as if worthy enough of
a text from your mom. A deep track, A deep
track from Eminem's catalog.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It's deep Wilson track.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
This, No, this.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Is the top of the line.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
That's true. You know, you're right. He definitely has, you
know that he has. I think he's like one either.
I think he's in like that this collective that makes
these these music videos and songs, produces jpeg moff he is.
I think he's on a bunch of them. So like
he's kind of a connecting part of the universe.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
He's the bridge.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
He's the guy in all the David Lynch films. You know.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
It's yeah, oh uh yeah, yeah, he's Wow, that's a
major player. He's a major player in this universe.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
He says. So I'm chilling in the front seat, in
the back seat, which is interesting that he's in both.
I'm driving cruising, which is both. Then he's his fast lanes,
switching lanes with a car on my side passing by.
Is a school bus in front of me? TikTok TikTok.
Wanna scream. Check my time, it's Friday. Check my time.
(23:03):
It's Friday. It's a weekend. We gonna have fun. Come on,
come on, y'all.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Wait wait wait, wait, wait wait, you have to you
have to read that again. You have to read that.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I go from the top. RB. Rebecca Black, so chilling
in the front seat, in the back seat.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Wait pause, so he says, RB. Rebecca Black. Yes, I
thought you were doing stage direction like that was Rebecca
Black about to talk?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Okay, I'll do stage direction this time. Verse three, Patrese Wilson. Okay, RB.
Rebecca Black so chilling in the front seat, in the
back seat, I'm driving cruise in time out, laying yep.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I have to pause at every point. We have a question.
That is this is making me fucking love it so
much more. That is categorical nonsense. That is absolutely that's
like vacant of any logic meaning, and not even in
some cool like Jackson Poula way where it's like, I
(24:00):
don't know, you splatter the paint and then I'm down
with that kind of lyric, right, And you know how
I think about like, you know, there's a couple of
people I've talked about a few times on this. I'm
not going to get into it, but like you know,
damn that style. Yeah, definitely the needs n But like
I do think you said Gary sneeze. I didn't, Dan,
but I definitely do think that there's also like there's
(24:21):
like collage splatter paint where meaning aggregates and a feeling
is evoked. Then they categorical Sure, then there's categorical nonsense
that I'm chilling in the front seat back seat is
fucking crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I don't understand it. RB Rebecca Black So chilling in
the front seat in the back seat, I'm driving, cruising
fast lanes, switching lanes with a car up on my
side hopefully, I mean, yeah, passing by is a school
bus in front of me? Passing by? Is a school bus?
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Fay had a grocical nonsense.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
He must be going kind of slow if a school
bus is passing in front of him.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Maybe he's like having an episode where he thinks he's
going fast. But he's like he's having like a delusional
episode while he's driving school bus. Passing by a school
bus in front of me?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Okay, ready, this is an incredible sentence. Makes TikTok, TikTok
want to scream?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Now? Is this pre the existence of TikTok and the controversy?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's yeah, pre both. It's spelled t c K t
c K. It's like a clock which then he goes
to check my time.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's Friday, and again, Friday is a day and not
a time. But I mean you could, okay, fine, you
could say it's this time on Friday. Hey, you want
to meet up at eight am on Friday to have
bacon and wound eggs.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's Friday. The idea it's always Friday somewhere.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
But you don't say it's Friday o'clock somewhere.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
You do. You say it's Friday something. Hey, it's Friday somewhere.
You know.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Someone says that. Someone might say, yo, dude, you want
to hit Yo dude? You want to you want to
hit this kratum?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, you say, and you say, hey, even a broke
clock is Friday. Two times.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
You say that even a broke clock passes a school
bus in front of it. Sometimes that is absolute bullshit.
I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, I think you feel the same way. I didn't
think that the lyrics were like this. I was like, Okay,
he spit averse and I didn't really think about it.
But then when you look at it, you're like, wait,
did he he like rarely rhymed?
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Even oh, that's so funny, I will say that even
with there is something like where, you know, have we
talked about this before? I feel like there is a
thing where, like poets, actual poets write will sometimes be
like a little like, oh my god, when someone calls
a songwriter a poet, it's almost like poetry is songwriters
(27:10):
songwritings like older distinguished sibling or something. And I feel
like there are some songwriters who, when you read their
lyrics independently of vocalization and the meter afforded by by song,
they do feel like they could stand with literature, with poetry.
But there are a lot of even really good lyricists,
(27:30):
I think, who when you read it alone, it doesn't
really hit you the same way. It's very rare. And
I what's funny is I remember when I was like
twenty one twenty maybe as a gag gift, someone got
me the book. It was called Angry Blonde. It was
Eminem's lyrics just as a book from his first two records,
and I will say reading his lyrics divorced from the music.
(27:52):
They were kind of like it was a little ridiculous,
Like you were like, this is like thirty five percent
stupider and less impressive, and he's like a canonically great
rapper lyricist and rapper top ten in many people's estimation, right,
your mom for sure, certainly, well, but again not in
two thousand, my mom gets on board and like, well,
(28:14):
actually lose yourself. As with many people, I think lose
yourself was the gateway.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Or gateweight drawing. She was like, I'm always the gateway drug.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, she was stoned. My mom was definitely like she
was like a feel so alone? Shall may? And they
were definitely sitting there smoking up. Anyway, listen, I don't
want to tell my mom's drug use on this pod anymore.
This is like becoming an Eminem. I gotta say it
for John Also, Eminem is constantly like my mom did
(28:43):
drugs and stuff like that. It's Bob Dylan Eminem.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Mon did duds.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But anyway, so yeah, that being said this, this definitely
does not pass the lyrist lyricist as poet tests. This
reading read it's berserk. It's really really berserk.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
It passes Bechdell, though Becky passes Bechdell.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Becky passes Bechtel. She does, does she because she talks
about her one friend on the right she never talks
about Does.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
She ever talked about the boy? She does? Not? Actually, good, yeah,
good question.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
But now that's something I loved about this. I'd never
thought there was one point where she's like, I gotta
crash on James and he's two foot eight or whatever.
She would say.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
To this guy's hot. It's a baby, She's gotta crush
on it.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Toddler, I gotta crash on James in the negative second grade.
You're like negative second grade. Okay, so two that's kindergarten.
I guess that's just kindergarten.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yesterday was Thursday, Tomorrow says, So it's really wild that. Yeah,
all right, so read me the bridge. No, God, damn it,
I'm gonna go back. Because the other thing that people
love about this is how she like doesn't even take
a breath, Like she's just like seven am, waking up
in the morning, gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs, gotta
(30:09):
have my bowl, gotta have cereal. Seeing everything that time
is going ticking on and on everybody.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
So that's where he got the TikTok thing from. He
was calling back to her first verse against calendars.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I know, so we're the fucking idiots.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
I guess this time it's you and me. Okay's and
not fucking lives.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
His name the rapper Trees Wilson, I know, I know.
Gesting next week, that's.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
That's season two for sure. As we get people from.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Season one to guest with us, give us a chance,
it's called all right.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Kind of amazing. Just like people get the chance to
savage anything of ours they would like to do.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
That's so great. They're like for me, they're like your daughter.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Like whoa, whoa, that is not on the table.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
She's literally on the table.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I got a crush on James and hist eight. All right, sorry, okay,
So yeah, what you're really highlighting is the lyrics are well,
she was what how old was Rebecca when she wrote this?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
I think she's obviously like in fifth grade? Oh my god, Kevin,
it just came back to me, and it's it's called
I'm Zach. No, it's called I'm Zach the boy. I
finally just got it. It's I'm Zach and it's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Oh no, do you think, wow, I have I have
Zach in my life, A big Zach in my life.
I'm gonna have to find this and send it to him.
That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
It's an unbelievable video. It's for another time, and it's
also five minutes and twenty one seconds.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Which would bring us to the very end. So imagine
we just were silent watching that for the rest of
it of the podcast.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
You just hear us like like just like it's like
smacking our lips listening. Not that we're smacking in terms
of like we like this child. Oh god, I just
meant like it's just silence.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Wow. I didn't expect you to go there, But like,
if that's the kind of shit we're gonna talk about
on this pod, like, let me know. I'm ready to
go anywhere you want.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
No, it's a homework assignment, is why who knows today
I'm bringing up I'm Zach as a homework assignment. Find
the video. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
It's if you use a homework assignment for me or
for them chancers or all of us.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
It's for both, okay, because we're all chancers in this
together tiny chair.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Yeah, that's true. That's true. Giving yourself homework.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Dude, nerd a teacher, you forgot to give us homework.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
And I'm the teacher and I'm the student. Give me
home work. I'll give me home work.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
The teacher yelling at this alone in a classroom. You've
got to go with homework.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Okay, here it is.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
That's how it's like a grat grad stuble student who's
like gotta just like stable, all right, anyway.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah, tell us the homework ahead.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Fine, I'm zach, watch it and enjoy your life, and
that song will help you do it.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Honestly, what you just said, is there a thing? Can
I talk about some Casey Jo just cannon for a second.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I think we can, because what you just said.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Around me is it okay to talk about? Maybe The
first thing I ever saw of Casey's was it was
it was probably Bulldog. That's the first thing that anybody
showed me. Or no, was that you were you?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yes, I was with the.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Boat with the now Bobo Touch Boys and Mike Stramberg
and Joe and Burgio.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Probably right, it was me. Joe, my friend Mark and
Pat were the main four for a sitcom that was
sort of a tongue in cheeks sitcom that packs in films,
which is that's what our good friends like Rizzo Stranberg
and Bonds, the brothers that have different last names for
fun that they created, and I, I mean my friends
(34:12):
what we call ourselves the Trophy Laugh Gang. So good.
This is deep canon. This is this is Nick.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
This is deep canon. This is Nick Cannon, Nick Carryon's
hilarious dad. But what I do remember is, is there
a thing what we were just talking about.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Which really Bulldog was a character I played in a video,
I mean in college.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
In Great Hills Park or something or where were you?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Were you that was like in Jersey somewhere like like
North Jersey at like a friend's house.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But there was something in it that this is making
me think of the idea of like a teacher talking
and gesturing to themselves about like you should get this homework,
no you or whatever to themselves. Wasn't there something about
like it's does Bulldog say something like it struck me?
He said it struck me that bah, and so something
about sting someone. Can you help me with this?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:58):
Yeah, yeah, it was just like strike me so I
punched him or something.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yeah, there was something about it, you know what strike
me as the kind of person who would.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Us And then I said crush and I do strike you,
and then I punched him in the face. I think
there was something.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
There's something about that that reminded me of the teacher
talking to themselves about self administering homework. I don't know why,
saying something about the way he tells the story. Anyway,
what I'm saying is it's well worth your time. I'm
giving you homework two chances. There's not only one teach
on the watch today. You have to teach double teach
each of us one foot four and if you add
(35:31):
together students, what you get to foot eight? And so
do you have a crush on Yeah, I have a
crush on James all you want. And also listen to
that High Sac song and also check out Bulldog. It's
probably on YouTube somewhere. SCREI.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
So I think I took all everything I've ever made
down just because it feels like it was thirty years ago,
because I think, yeah it was.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
I probably was probably twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
And even Rebecca Black now it's you know, she's she's
up there in age.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Oh, I'll just also say about Rebecca Black. Sorry to
bring us back, I will say one thing that again,
I don't know how old this person was at the time,
but I do know twenty twelve. This does feel it
feels antiquated. For twenty twelve, This for sure feels like
a mid two thousands at most recent thing to me.
(36:21):
Something about the haircuts, something about it. So I just
want to make sure I drive that home. I feel
like that's part of its charm, is that it feels
in twenty twelve. The references self conscious, self aware or
not were not even they It hadn't happened long enough
for it to be cool again yet, which its charm too. Exactly.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Yes, it's that is the charm. It's it's amazing. It's
it's up there with like Kesha TikTok or a Katy
Perry song, but it's.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Like toast that did Patrice write that?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Well, we'll find out next week when Patrise sits in
as guest. Love you all do your Home Musk
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