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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. The past couple of episodes,
we've covered Domestic Violence Awareness Month with Jim Schmidt talking
about his daughter Gabby Petito, who was murdered and was
a victim of domestic violence. Yesterday's episode was a crossover
episode with Gandhi from Sauce on the Side, and Gandhi
(00:41):
is also a part of the Elvis Dran podcast network
with us. So today we have a lot of news
stories to catch up on. We're going to start off
with Kim Kardashian and her brain aneurysm that may have
been caused by Kanye West. A woman who set her
building on fire because she was trying to kill a cockroach.
A grandfather that was boiled alive at a hotel, a
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man who was dead for days at a retirement home
and no one noticed, of course, and let's finish it
off with monkeys with herpes. We'll finish the episode with
your questions comments. All that moral Titty's episode. Let's get
started with the Kim Kardashian story. It's every week with
this woman.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, there are new seasons airing right now, so you're
definitely going to see a bunch of stuff. So the
trailer came out for the Kardashians and Kim revealed that
she got one of those full body pernuvo scans. Were
we just talking to Elvis about this last year, Well,
he wanted a surgeon to open open him up and
fully look inside, not just do it.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yes, that was I don't know if you guys listened to,
because we did another episode with Elvis Duran himself and
he was asking me, like, can people just I didn't
even understand what he was saying, but he was just saying, like,
can I just get a surgeon to caught me open
and look around tell me if anything's wrong? And I said, no,
(02:04):
I don't think anybody's going to do that for you.
You could get one of these full body scans that
they're always advertising, but you definitely can't get someone to
just do an exploratory laborotomy on you just to see
if something's wrong when you have absolutely no symptoms.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So that was funny, pretty insane to what somebody does.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I'm just like, I'm like, why would you want that?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
So Kim got one of these done and then they
detected she had a quote little brain aneurism. What are
your thoughts on this?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I just think this is such bullshit, Like when if
you get one of these full body scans on any
single person, you're just gonna find something a little weird.
And the fact that they said she has a little
brain aneurysm is just like, it just means that one
of her vessels in her brain is bulging a little bit.
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But she didn't say anything that they were treating it,
so it's just like, if they're not going to treat it,
it's just.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Not that big of a deal.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Well, she didn't reveal yet because she went on Good
Morning America earlier this week and said, basically, you have
to watch the episode to find out what happened, which,
of course, well, if.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I mean, if she did get treatment, then I would say, okay,
then that's a little bit more of a significant finding,
because like, people live with brain aneurysms all the time,
small ones, and it never causes a problem. If it's
if it's incidentally identified on a scan such as this,
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or maybe you're getting a scan for something else, they're
gonna want to watch it just to make sure that
it doesn't get worse because they are at risk of
bursting and then you could have real problems, so you
could die from it. Actually, when we were at the
Dark Side, New Jersey, was that two weeks ago now
or ye two saturdays ago, two saturdays ago, which we
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did do a live episode and that will get posted
as soon as we get the audio from that, because.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
That makes we promised.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah, it's coming, we promise, and it was a good episode,
so I want you guys to hear it. But anyway,
one of our our listeners came up to us at
that at that Oddity exhibit at the Dark Side and
she told us.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
She says to me, oh, I'm.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So glad I was able to get here, get out
of the hospital in time to get here. So I
don't know my brain just because there's a lot of
people listening to us at our nurses and doctors and
things like that. I was I was like, oh, where
do you work And she was like, no, I'm actually
in I was in the hospital. I had a ruptured
anneurism and a brain bleed. And I was like, holy shit.
(04:43):
Because she she's pretty young, She's probably around my age
or maybe even younger. So it really happens and for
so in the episode, apparently Kim Kardashian said that she
got this aneurism because of Kanye West.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
That's not true necessarily. The trailer alluded to the fact
that it was stressed around the time of her divorce,
although a source is now saying aka their pr person,
that she's not blaming it on Kanye because at the
time she was getting it done, or at the time
the scan happened and they detected the aneurysm, it was
(05:20):
in the middle of her divorce, she was going through
the bar exam, i believe for the third time, and
she was getting ready to go to Paris for the
trial for her robbery. So she had three extremely stressful
things happening in her life on top of the stress
of being a famous person and just not being able
to live like a normal human being.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But in the trailer or the episode, she said specifically
that it was because of stress from Kanye West, and
then they kind of backtracked it a little bit. Well, yeah,
because that's what it believes. Well, it probably plays to
her not wanting to talk shit about her kid's dad. No,
it plays to the fact that every single person in
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the world, like myself is going to be like, that's
not what happens, right, Like, that doesn't even make any sense.
So I guess in theory because if you have high,
like chronic high blood pressure, that would increase your risk
for an aneurysm. And in theory, you could have high
blood pressure if you're under stress a lot. So like that,
it's it's just a stretch. It's not caused by it's
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not caused by stress, because then people would be dropping
like flies for everybody's got stress in their life, and really, like,
she doesn't have money stress, which a lot of people have,
so it's just different stress, right, It's not any worse
than anybody else's, So so I think that that's kind
of that's I feel like that's personally why they put
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out the statement that wasn't caused by that, because a
bunch of people were going to be like, dude, that's
not you just made that up.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
That's not even true.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Well it's interesting though that they are backtracking on it,
and I don't know what the real reason is it
behind it, If it's actually people calling her out saying
that's bullshit, or she like was like I didn't want
to say something like that, and it looks bad obviously,
but they're saying from the trailer, and they also picked
up that she's blaming her psoriasis flare ups on the
stress of her divorce, and she also discussed having Stockholm syndrome,
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which is when you start being loving and having a
positive attitude towards your captor abuser.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So interesting, Well, getting back to this MRI, Like, the
way the article's written is she was having a routine MRI.
There's no such thing as a routine MRI. Well, that's
what I was going to ask you too. There's just
not they don't they're test that could cost hundreds and
thousands of dollars. They're not just doing them on everyone
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just to see if if you have something, so bit
like everybody needs to see that. This whole entire episode
is an ad for this that she's making thousands of
dollars off of.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
And they are all it is ad about it because, uh,
Chris got it done before, and I remember you and
I got a little tiff about it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Because you're saying it's so unnecessary for people to get done.
But I'm like, if you have the money to do,
who cares?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And this is the thing, Like I would actually love
to see the report and see how it all goes
down and listen like when we I guess when next
week's episode comes out, we could be having a totally
different situation. But like her doing advertisements for them, the
best case scenario is that they do find something that
could potentially be deadly, because then every single person's gonna
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watch it and be like, oh my god, Kim Kardashian
almost died of a hemorrhagic stroke. We have to get
this test done to make sure that doesn't happen to us.
So it could have just been like this hair millimeter,
like it's it's kind of on the edge of abnormal,
barely abnormal. But they were like, Nope, we're gonna use
that because that's gonna go viral, which is exactly what's happening, right.
(08:50):
So I mean, I could be I could stand corrected
if they say next week, like she had to undergo
brain surgery and have this thing repaired and clipped or
you know, embolize, whatever they do for it. I just
I just don't. I just don't foresee that happening. I
just think that this and this has been a complaint
(09:11):
with this show since the newer ones come out that
every single episode is just an ad for their their brand,
and this is just an ad and nobody is looking
at it like that.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Well, you know, a lot of people have been complaining
about that. There's this show on Netflix called Nobody Wants
Us with Kristen Bell and Adam Brody and it's this
huge show and the second season just came out last Wednesday.
And I like the show. It's like cute and fun,
but definitely between season one last year and this season,
I'm like, the product placement is unbelievable. They will literally
be holding up a Dunkin Donuts cup for like ten minutes.
(09:46):
It's outrageous, and they'll be talking so much about.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
A product it's like they don't even try to hide
it in the you know when you watch Seinfeld and
they're like, oh, I'm gonna eat an oreo. You know,
like little things like that. They are just straight up
holding products up for such a long time. And that's
the complaint because people are like, we're not stupid. There's
a way to like have some sort of subliminal messaging
where you're mentioning it and it's not so in our face.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Because yeah, because I think like if it wasn't an
AD then you would have just you would have just said, oh,
she had an MRI, Like why are you saying what
brand of MRI she had?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Like it's just like, come on, dude, I.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Know somebody that got one of these done. What the
MRI the pranuvo.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Thing, Yeah, and and how I mean they.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Had positive results from it, but it was also like
unnecessary but whatever, I mean, because there it's just it's
just it's very exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
That's what's very important to say that it's not it's
not a screening test. I mean, you could use it
as that if you pay for it, but like, the
average person isn't getting that done the way that they
say it in the articles, like oh, this person's getting
a papsme or a colonoscopy or things that are are
typically covered by insurance that people are supposed to be
getting annually or semianally or whenever they're supposed to get
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these certain tests done. So it's it's not a routine screening.
There's no person in the world that's just like oh yeah,
like it's it's such a skin like all of it.
So I think that's all that I really I really
wanted to say about that. I mean, the risk factors
that go along with aneurysms are, like I said, high
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blood pressure. Also obviously if you drink, do cocaine, smoke,
that could increase it. It could just be like a genetic thing,
and it also could be a thing when she was
developing as a fetus that there's just like a weakness
in the wall there. There's certain conditions and syndrums. You
could see it with connective tissue disorders and stuff like.
I don't know what's going on with her, but if
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it's minor, it's just like what of all right?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
A woman is facing charges after accidentally setting her apartment
building on fire trying to kill a cockroach with a
lighter and hairspray, which then lets the death of her neighbor.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I know, it's like, oh, she used the makeshift flame frower,
and I was just like, okay, wait a second, what
did she use? Like what did you think was gonna happen?
And listen, cockroaches are are probably the worst. I like, really,
what's worse a cockroach or a mouse or in your house?
(12:21):
I don't even know. I would actually say, see, I
think like a cockroach is just so much worse because
I feel like with first, the mice are just bigger,
and you know, you can get that under control at
some point if you see them, if you have a
cat something like that. Like the cockroaches are just they
lay these eggs. You can't see them, and it's I
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don't know, it freaks me out.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Usually if you see one, it means there's like hundreds,
find me exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
That's why I just like, like, fortunately I never had
to deal with them, but God, at the one hospital
I worked at they were in the more they were
coming out of the drain, it was just terrible and
it was like something you could just like never get
rid of, you know, and they don't. And like I
also have a thing with insects that don't fly, you know,
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like if they if something comes in the room and flies,
then you're kind of like, Okay, that came from outside
or something. You could just justify it. But like big
things like that crawling like uh no, So I understand
that she wanted to kill it, but like could have
used a shoe, Like.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
What is your most skewed bug?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Probably, I would say, like a cockroach or like those
water bugs.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
The mine is sprickets because I have them in my basement.
I go down there the Changewa wash and you know,
my basement floor is like brown, so they blend into
the ground and then one will jump towards me and
it makes you want to die.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And what I don't even know if I told you
this one got in my hand for the other day.
When I dumped it on my bed, one of them
jumped out and I almost passed out.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
They are so disgusting.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I don't understand. I don't understand them. I feel like
I've never seen one outside once. I only they're like
specific basement bugs.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Well there you know that little shed on the back
of my house. There's like a gajillion of them in there, really,
and I don't know where they come from. There show discussing,
and they're not always in my basement just sometimes. Yeah,
I guess they're kind of scary. I don't know, it's
just weird, like and it's weird how our mind does that?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Like, I feel like most people would say if they
saw like a ladybug, they would pick it up and
be like, oh, this is cute, and like or a
lightning bug, they would like let it crawl on them
and hold their you know, hold it on their hand,
and they would think.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It was cute.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
And then when you think about like a cockroach, it's
just like people want to get a bottle of hairspray
and put a lighter towards it and set people's houses
on fire and kill people.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
They're hard to kill them. You really can't just crush
one with your shoe and they can live. I think
they said that it will only bugs that could survive
like a nuclear attack.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
They can live forever.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I think they can live a week with out their head.
They're very unusual creatures.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
So we had, like I said, at one of the
hospitals I worked out, we had a serious cockroach problem
in the morgue. But we also had it just in
the part of the hospital that we were in where
the lab was and you would just be sitting there
and look up and you know, when you have like
a fluorescent light drop ceiling situation, you would be able
to see them like crawling on that piece of plastic
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that covers the fluorescent light.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
So one day we were sitting there and one of
the secretaries was back there and one of them like
fell out of this ceiling onto her jacket. Oh my god,
she was like a bo She was like she was
so emotionally disturbed by it, like it was I felt
terrible for her. But one day we tried to play
a trick on one of the pathologists. So we decided
(15:49):
that we were going to take one of these cockroaches
that we found, and we were going to and it
was already dead. So like for all those people that
are trying to protect bugs, it was already a dead bug.
And we were gonna we were going to play a
trick on one of the pathologists, and we were going
to tell them that it came down as a specimen
and it was in someone's ear, and we were going
to make a frozen section of it. So that's something
(16:11):
that we typically do when a person's getting surgery done
and they're open on the operating table. We'll look at
something under the microscope really fast to see if we
could Usually it's done to guide the surgeon to be like, oh,
you could close the person up, or you have to
take more tissue or something like that. So we made
up this whole story and we stick the cockroach in
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this frozen bath of liquid nitrogen. To freeze it, and
we try to make a frozen section of it, and
we can't even cut it onto slides because the exoskeleton
is essentially like cartilage or bone, like you just can't
cut it with a blade that's like a razor blade.
But we got a couple chunks of like antennae, and
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we brought the slide to the pathologists and we were like,
this was in someone's ear, what do you think it is?
And he looks at it under the microscope and he's like, well,
it's some kind of ants. I see bug parts under here.
Like it was so funny and we were laughing about it,
but we just didn't even think that we wouldn't be
able to cut the thing because it was so tough,
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like the outer surface of it.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
They really are so big and so gross, and people
think that the bigger ones are the issue, but really
the small brown ones are the serious problem.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Ew they're just eh.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
So this is what happened in this case. So she
uses this makeshift flamethrower from the lighter in hairspray a
five point thirty in the morning, which sets the apartment
on fire. So then her neighbor who just gave birth
two months before her and her husband and their two
month old baby are in their apartment and the apartments
are filling up with smokes. They can't get out the
front door, so I guess there was another building or
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part of this apartment building was only three feet away
out of their window about a meter, So they were
trying to get into this other apartment across the alleyway.
So they hand the baby over to the neighbor and
another apartment. The husband ends up getting over and then
the wife's going over and she fell five stories to
her death.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah, like this, I mean, this is just like so irresponsible.
And that's the scary part when you live in close
quarters with people that you could do. You know, you
hear about this in New York all the time, with
the scooters and the bicycles catching on fire. But by
the way, so we went to New York last night
(18:29):
to see the screening of the Love and War documentary
for nat GEO Docs, which is going to be out
in a week or two, I believe, on Hulu. It
was awesome. I highly recommend you guys seeing it, but
you know, we don't, and certainly we go to New
York to go to the iHeartRadio, but we don't really
(18:51):
go at night usually, like sometimes you'll go get dinner
with our friends or whatever. But we got this really
awesome parking spot, but it was next to a bike
lane and we get out of the car and there's
people in this bike lane on those e scooters and
e bikes. It's scary as hell, Like, I feel like
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you can get seriously injured, if not killed, if one
of those things hit you. It's just a weird thing
that I wasn't expecting. I almost feel more comfortable crossing
the street with moving cars than those things, because it
just was like the weirdest thing ever. That was a
side note.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I eclipped by somebody on a regular bike when I
was interning in New York and it was horrible. So
I can't imagine getting hit by one of those there
are little vehicles.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
It's weird because they've again they've come on the scene
fairly quickly that there. I don't think there's been a
lot of laws implemented with them. It's just weird to
watch something that could go that fast be in something
that's considered to be a bicycle lane. I also think
it's probably dangerous for people that are on a regular
bike too.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Oh totally. Yeah, it can go pretty fast.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It was. It just was like a really weird thing.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I was just kind of scared to cross that particular lane.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
What were we talking about?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I don't even understand, like the tangents, Oh, like living
in close quarters with someone. We've talked about this before,
that people will put their e bikes to charge with
these fake chargers and these fake batteries, and then it
sets the whole apartment building on fire. So even if
you're doing the right thing in your particular building, you
have to deal with everyone else that lives in your building.
(20:28):
Hopefully they're doing the right thing too.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Oh totally. And this woman's not the only person that
I mean, she died, but there was eight other people
that were injured in the fire. They just got minor
injuries though from smoke inhalation, which still sucks. None of
them were life threatening. But so they want to charge
this woman with accidentally starting a fire and causing death
by negligence, and I feel like that's reasonable. I mean,
(20:52):
what the fuck was she thinking?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I don't know, like why would you? Yeah, like, what
are you thinking? There's a thousand she could have used I.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Mean it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, And I mean we don't know the full story
of it.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Like maybe it's a huge problem and she's called the
landlord a lot and they're not doing anything and she
you know what I mean, Like there might be more
to the story.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
But still it's just.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
That you can't just like go using Yeah, it's such
a flammable thing.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, if you're just like, if you're just like a
human living in society, like you should just know that.
That's a terrible idea. It's scary that you don't know that.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Actually.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Okay, back in May, this grandpa was staying at a
hotel because he was going to see his granddaughter graduate
from college the next day. And at the hotel he
is taking a shower, but the water was so hot
that he was essentially boiled alive and found unconscious a
little while later by his grandson.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
So was he taking a shower or he was taking
a bath?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I think he was.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Taking a shower, But they were saying they found him
submerged in water. So was it one of those like
the drain wasn't fully or did he was he in
the bath and the shower head was turned on I'm
not really sure. Well, regardless, I think so. Gandhi actually
texted this morning and asked about this, like, what, how
(22:13):
the hell did this happen? And I think obviously the
headline's a little sensationalized, I mean, but technically not at
the same time, because what you know, I don't know
how it works in hotels, but I know in the house,
for example, our hot water heater, you could adjust how
(22:34):
hot the water is, and in our house we do
keep we keep the water extra hot, because number one,
I'd like to take really hot bass. But number two,
I find that it's easy to wash dishes if you
just if you eat dinner and you just run it
under really hot water, like you don't even.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Need to use soap. It just cleans the dish, you know.
That's what they do in restaurants and stuff too. I guess.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So I'm a.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Assuming that at hotels as well, there's some kind of
a gauge on it, because most cities and most states
recommend a certain temperature, so like one hundred and twenty
degrees for example, that they think that humans can tolerate,
just to prevent accidental burns like this. So there's that
this guy is also he's old, a little bit older,
(23:23):
seventy seven, So he's seventy seven. So when you get older,
your skin gets a lot thinner. You lose subcutaneous fat,
or the fat that's underneath of your skin. That's why
with old people you see that they get these huge
bruises on their arm just by like walking by the
table and bumping it, just because the skin gets so thin.
I don't know if you remember, like years ago about
(23:45):
this woman that got burned really bad with the hot
coffee at McDonald's. It was like this huge lawsuit and well.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, because even Seinfeld made an episode about it because
it was such a big deal.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, And when you look at the details of that case,
it was like the woman was a little bit elderly,
she had thinner skin, and she ended up getting third
degree burns, which arets should just not happen with with
coffee unless it's served too hot. And that was the
whole lawsuit was like it was served too hot. And
I'll tell you right now, like I get we get
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coffee sometimes from a place and it's so hot, like
I can't even touch it for an hour at least,
it's just so hot, like it actually burns my hands
through the insulated cup. I just know that the temperature
is not right on it, and that's what's scary, because
when they're handing it to you through the drive through,
that just is a potential for it to fall on
(24:38):
you and burn you like that, right, So that so
in this case, if they find this guy dead in
the top, they're obviously going to do an autopsy to
try to find out exactly what happened. And when they
did the autopsy, they found that they didn't see anything
that would have caused his immediate death except the fact
that he had these burn on thirty percent of his body.
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So what happens. You know, your skin's an organ, right.
A lot of people don't think about your skin being
an organ, but it's an organ. So when you get
burns on a large portion of your body, there's a
lot of different things to consider that could happen, but
in the immediate So in the future, you might think
(25:23):
about infections because your skin is the barrier that holds
you from the outside world, and when you don't have that,
you just have an increased risk of like bacteria stuff
getting through your skin. But that wouldn't happen instantaneously in
the immediate danger of getting burns Like this is because
your skin is also responsible for regulating your body temperature,
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and your body temperature is important because your organs have
to stay at a certain temperature in order for them
to function correctly. So think about when you have a fever,
for example, that would be considered hyperthermia because you're you're
hotter than you're supposed to be. And think about like
how shitty you feel when you have one hundred degree fever,
even just a minor fever, you feel totally, you feel
(26:06):
like shit, right, So, so that that the skin is
helping regulate your body temperature, and when you have that
large of a portion of your skin burned, you could
be caught. You could get hyperthermia, and that's exactly what
or hypothermia you could. It fluctuates depending, but you can
die from that. It could cause your organs to shut
down and die from that. So they determined that that
(26:29):
was what killed him, and you know, of course they're
going to go back and the other factors are going
to be that he was older and his skin was thinner,
so he was like at more of a risk for burns,
and well, listen, to.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
The details of this. They're saying the water was so
dangerously hot that they could not initially lift him from
the tub. As they struggled desperately to save him, they
were forced to watch in horror as his skin peeled
away from his body, and then they said they could
not touch him without burning themselves.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah, and that wasn't even immediately after. That wasn't in
me iediately after, Like they didn't hear a because you
were saying he took a shower, So I'm assuming that
they would have. If he was taking a shower, there
would have been some kind of a thump.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
The lawsuit is saying they believe they found him within minutes,
but I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Think the water were still.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, and think about that, like when you when you
take a bath, when you're not in a bathtub, that
that has a jet, right, the water's hot and it
cools down pretty fast. So if it was that hot
there had there could have been something broke on whatever
regulator controls the temperature of it, or something happened. Maybe
(27:39):
they installed a new hot water heater. I know sometimes
when you go to airbnbs and stuff, the hot water
heater will be in the closet or something like. I
don't know if I've ever seen that at a hotel
that an actual person would have access to it to
change it like that, which is I guess also a
possibility if a person was there and taking showers and
(28:02):
didn't think the water was hot enough, someone could have
messed with it if they had access to it. I
just don't see that because it was a Marriott or something, right.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Yeah, do you think that it's possible he got in
the shower when it was a normal temperature and it
just got that hot so quickly that it kind of
like stunned his body that he couldn't move to turn
it off.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
It could have just been a lot of different things.
Because another thing to consider is that they said they
found him submerged in water, which to me would mean
that the that it was plugged because normally the water
goes down the drain.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
But is it possible he fell and blocked the drains? Yeah,
then it started filling up.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, that's possible.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's also just possible the plug was in and the
water was filling up and then his feet to his
you know, mid calf, was submerged in water that hot
would also increase your body temperature and could make you,
you know, pass out. I don't know exactly what happened,
but they did say that he had high blood pressure,
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which was a contributing factor. So that would be not
only from like looking at the medications that he's on
in a history of high blood pressure perhaps, but also
you could see if a person has long standing high
blood pressure, you could see that the pomp or the
left ventricle of their heart is enlarged because their heart
(29:21):
is working harder. And when you work, just like if
you work a muscle in your arm, it gets bigger.
It's the same exact thing with your heart, so it's
working harder and getting bigger. But they didn't think that
it was severe enough that it would have caused him
to die. And based with those burns, I mean this
is like a huge lawsuit.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Oh for sure. I mean totally unaccepted.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
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Speaker 3 (29:58):
And speaking of people getting boiled alive, we actually have
a case in the Grosser Room from when a person
was actually boiled alive. It's a it's a vintage case.
And it's really really, it's so disturbing. But you know,
that's why I was saying that the title of the
(30:18):
of the other article was a little sensationalized. But I
I was making Matza ball soup this weekend, and I
was making the broth. And when you do that, you
put a whole entire chicken and you cook it over
hours for it to really be boiled, right, and when
you get to the soup hours later, it's just like
(30:39):
the bones are completely separated from the meat. And that
would that's what I think of boiled alive. And in
this case, in no, it's I mean it it's it's
it's really disturbing, but that's I mean, that's what it
is what it is. So in this case in the
grosser room. So this was a this was actually a friend.
(31:00):
Like Friday I wrote about what happens when a person
spoiled alive, this person was actually boiled alive and looks
more similar to the remains of my soup than just
a person that has severe burns on their body. Like
there's and something weird happened with the bone and it
involves a dog, and it's just this story is absolutely
(31:22):
crazy and it's actually probably a murder that was that
was hidden. But that's a side note. So what else
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(31:42):
through the movie Sleepy Hollow as well as the movie
Seven and just said is this probable or not? Is
this you know, all of the different scenes, we kind
of go through put clips of the movie and it
was really fun. So which if you join the grocerroom,
you all have access to all that stuff too. But
then this year we did Scream, and we did it
a little differently because Scream was actually based on a
(32:05):
real life serial killer and it's just cool to see
what parts of the actual story they took and just
like what was the inspiration for the movie and compare
and can trast the different things. But then we also
compare it to another murder case that's more recent and
(32:25):
one of the most disturbing, really disturbing serial killers out
there that's not talked about that much, So make sure.
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Speaker 2 (32:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
This woman went to visit her seventy five year old
uncle at his retirement home and when she got there,
she found him dead in his chair, saying he looked
like a skeleton. This is another like lawsuit worthy.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
What the hell is going on at this place?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
They had man dates to check in on the people
and the residence if they didn't hear from them by
a certain point every day, and they did not do that, yeah,
for what was it, three or four days? Yeah, so
it ended up being the sheriff said they thought he
was sitting there basically for three to four days. And obviously,
(33:16):
like if he just died of natural causes, like them
checking on him or not, wouldn't have made him, you know,
would have revived him. But he shouldn't have been sitting
there for three to four days. It's disgraceful.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
The whole entire thing is actually interesting because obviously so
it happened in shccer Maricopa County. It seems like that's
where all the shady business is happening there in Arizona.
So in Arizona it's hot as hell still, so I
would assume that buildings like that have air conditioning, so
(33:47):
that would definitely slow down decomposition for sure, but it
would still be happening. And I would think after three
to four days of a body being out in room
temperature like that that it would start to And I
don't believe that it looked I mean, I definitely think
that it could have had some changes that could have
(34:09):
make the face appear to be more sunken in, But
I don't think that the body looked like a skeleton,
because it's just there's not enough time for that to happen.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
No, I mean, it was probably more just her misspeaking
about seeing No.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I'm sure he looked disturbing as hell. And I guess
the thing that's more that's bothersome to me is that
that no one smelled that. If they're living in rooms
within a building like that, I just can't imagine that
that wasn't addressed. And obviously, I mean that's the scary.
(34:48):
It's it's almost like sticking your kid in a daycare center,
like you don't you trust, and you go visit and
you think it's okay, but you have these either babies
that can't talk for them adults that can't talk for themselves,
that are they can possibly be getting mistreated and you
wouldn't even know it, and that's why you pay for
(35:11):
I mean, like the guy would have been better off
being at his house by himself.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah, but all right, So like, yeah, and I think
that the niece was really trusting of this facility because
their policy was that they were that all residents were
supposed to push a button a signal that they were
all right by ten am every day, and if the
staff did not receive that signal from them, they were
supposed to reach out. But in his case, he didn't
(35:36):
push the button. They said, they tried to call him,
couldn't get in touch with him, and then nobody ever
physically went up to his apartment to check on him,
which is completely unacceptable. But his wife just died. He
only has lived in this place since January, and seemingly
it had seemed like a good place to be until this.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, it could exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Like it just it could just be like, uh a,
you know, we were talking a couple of weeks ago
about that that nurse that handed you know, there was
the wrong baby handed to the wrong mother. Yeah, it's
just like It probably has something to do with a
change in shifts and people not following some kind of
(36:17):
protocol that they should be following, and multiple you know,
we were saying with the case with the nurse, there's
like multiple checks in place, so if some if something
does fall through the cracks, like the next backup person
is supposed to catch it. All of the systems in
the hospital are set up like that, and it's probably
some kind of failure with that, I would say more
(36:39):
than if if the place has a pretty good rep
I would say it's probably that more than just like
pure negligence.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Well yeah, I mean I could even see if there
was a shift change on day one and they missed it,
But three to four days in a.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Row, now, yeah, not even day one. I mean, it's
just it's not it's not.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Unacceptable too, but you could see it, you know, happening
a little more in that situation, but clearly they were
not doing their job.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
And just like you going and visiting your family member
and thinking you're going to see them alive and then
seeing them dead would be traumatic in itself, but to
see a dead body that's decomposing is just so traumatic
and we'll never get erased out of that woman's mind.
You know, that's that's like a pain and suffrage situation.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I sure as ill.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I wouldn't want to see my loved one like that.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
So and she shouldn't have had Yeah, she shouldn't have
had two you exactly. It's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Earlier this week, a truck transporting monkeys to a Florida
testing lab gotten horrific accident, causing the monkeys to get loose,
and apparently the driver incorrectly told police that they were
very dangerous and infected with herpes hepatato sea in COVID.
So people were freaking out, but it was not true
that they were infected with anything.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
So when I first heard that, like I barely know
anything about what gets done in RESAR, but just to me,
I just was like, this is why would they purposely
infect monkeys with all of these different viruses?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Like I could.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
See one and maybe even two if you want to
see how they act together. It's just a little like
what study are they doing? Oh, we want to see
the implications of a monkey that has viral hepatitis that
also gets a COVID infection and a herpes infection at
the same time, like it just seems like a little
bit of a stretch to do that, to give these
(38:34):
monkeys that, so so I was just kind of like, Okay,
I just don't understand why this guy thought that and
why he said it out loud or did it just
get lost in translation.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
I'm sure, but the university they were being transported from
was saying they didn't have any infectious diseases at all,
So I'm not really sure where that even came from.
It seems like it was totally fabricated. But before they
knew that they caught some of the monkeys and euthanize.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Them, Well, I was thinking that too, just in general,
I mean they have I mean, what's the difference like
those those those monkeys are getting killed. They're being used
for scientific research, so they would have gotten killed either
way when they were done with them. And it's it's
actually upsetting because there were reports that these monkeys were aggressive.
(39:25):
But was that false too, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Well, you know, they were saying that the monkeys weren't dangerous, but.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
But they weren't dangerous from a transmissible infection standpoint or
like to personally, I don't think they were dangerous from
what you're saying, but after you watch you know, documentaries
and stuff like chim crazy, monkeys are not necessarily the
safest well animals to be around humans.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
This is the thing though.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Chimps are are closest to us that if you were
to do it would be the best because they're they're
genetically the closest to us. But they get a little angy,
like yeah, like I think Charlette Nash, Charlotte, Yeah, Charlotte
Nash like, which is another another one we wrote about
in the Gross Room with a disturbing of of that,
(40:17):
and you said, there's like a whole isn't there like
a whole show about that?
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Chimp crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
So they follow around this woman Tanya that's like absolutely
insane that has this chimp.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
She like stole one.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
It was like fugitive, it's insane. But they did have
a I think the second episode is all about the
other incident where the that chimp ripped off Carla Nash's
face and it was horrific. I mean that you were
saying you were maybe gonna show Lucia because she like
Tiger King, and I was like, I don't know. It
was pretty disturbing to watch as an adult.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I don't know the story.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
The story is disturbing. So it's this monkey's called the
recis monkey. I think it's called but I guess they
use this particular one because there's a lot of them.
They grow or they grow, they live in all different
parts of the world, so they're easy to get and
they obviously they have a more chill disposition than a
(41:11):
chimp would have. But the thing is with primates is
that they're very intelligent animals, so they know what's going
on this particular species, which is really crazy that they
say this. When they're studying them. They said that they
have social intelligence. They side with relatives when fights happen.
(41:32):
They're very family oriented. They recruit allies when they attack
most and most of their daily lives are spent building
political alliances. So to me, if they're able to do
all that, then I would think if they see that
they're under the control of humans that are doing things
(41:53):
on them that hurt them, that they're like kind of
aware of what's happening a little bit more than the
average rabbit so does speak. So it is I mean, obviously,
like if they get let loose, they're gonna split, and
if they were enjoying it, why would they leave. They're
not enjoying it, right, They're leaving and now they're getting
(42:16):
so like their whole life was just for the purpose
of using them for that, and then they got destroyed
because of because they were potentially infectious, which you have
to do because they can transmit that to a human.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Well, I was gonna ask about the transmission to human,
but also, like I did notice they kept using the
terminology we've destroyed them, which was interesting, but I think
they were saying they killed them because of the infectious disease,
but then that part turned out not to be true
at all. But I get what you're saying in some capacity,
Like I hate when we covered I'm definitely not a
(42:53):
number one animal advocate, right, Like I'm not really fond
of animals that much, but I can definitely say it's
not right when, like, you know, a shark bites a
human when the shark is just in its home in
the ocean, and then the shark gets killed or a bear,
you know, like things like that really bothered me. So
I was like, this is so fucked up that they
like killed these monkeys after finding them but I guess
(43:15):
is it better that they got what they say destroyed
after they were found now than going to the lab
and continuing to get tortured the rest of their lives.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, I mean, it's just like do it now or
do it later kind of thing. It's the whole situation's
messed up. And it's actually we had a story while
we said this on our YouTube Live in the Grosser Room,
that we had a story last week that there was
some really bad accident and someone was transporting I mean cats.
It wasn't for research, it was for adoption. But the
(43:46):
same thing happened. The van that the cats were in
crash so bad that they were exposed to the street
and the cage is broke and they ran. And then
now you have I think they caught some of them,
but like you have cats living in the woods on
the side of a highway now that aren't used to
they could possibly be indoor cats and not used to
(44:08):
being outside.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
So then some some outlets were reporting that three were
still missing, while some outlets were reporting that one was
still missing. So, I mean, that's kind of eerie to
just know a monkey is on the loose, And I
guess you don't know the full state of the monkey,
if it's being tortured in a labits whole life, if
it's gonna have normal behavior or not. And even when
they do have normal behavior, they can still be aggressive
(44:31):
towards humans, probably especially when they feel threatened.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
So, I don't know if you saw this story this morning.
I just saw that people were out of Spirit Halloween
in Texas and this monkey wearing a diaper I seem,
singing from the ceiling and then the owner had to
lure it down with a cookie after the police were called.
But of like, why is the monkey in the store?
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Well, it's probably the owner's monkey, right, Well, no.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
I'm talking with the owner of the monkey. I don't
think it's a story's owner.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Oh okay, yeah, so, because because there's definitely like this,
there's been a change over the past couple of years
that there's not this line of like where is it
appropriate to bring animals? And obviously, like dogs are the
most socially acceptable ones, so people bring them to restaurants
(45:21):
and stuff like that. I don't know if it's necessary
that we put the ministroller and bring them to the mall,
but okay, do.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
What everybody else do, do.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Whatever you want to do.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
But whenever these lines are broken, then there's like the
habitual line crosser people that you know, they get exotic
animals like weird snakes and alligators and things like that
that you're not supposed to really even be handling in
your house, let alone bringing into public places and stuff
(45:52):
like that. So so this guy just had a monkey
with a diaper on and was like, you know what,
like I'm going to bring this monkey to the Hallween
store and get it a costume. And now you have
a monkey hanging from the rafters at Spirit Halloween. Like
that's that's where we're at right now.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
Yeah, And I don't I don't know how the people
are responding in the store, but I would certainly not
be comfortable, which is like I know.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Running around. Yeah, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
I think having pet monkeys.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I think it was like real popular in the eighties,
right that you guys used to get like catalogs in
the mail where you like order them. I feel like
a friend of mine said, like in their house in
South Philly, they I.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Definitely never got a catalog to order a monkey.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Well, I know somebody that did in their childhood and
they're about your age, so I don't know, definitely interesting.
I don't understand who would want a pet monkey, but
if it's for you, just be careful don't.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
End up in a series.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
So these particular monkeys, there's videos online and they're actually
really insane that they'll be in whatever country that they're
in and they kind of get together and go up
to humans and open their purse and like steal their
wallet and stuff. They're very intelligent, so you have to
think that they're gonna be pissed off because they're they're
(47:09):
not being treated well, right.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
And that's I'm saying, like, what, it's no quality of life? No, Okay,
let's move on to questions and your emails first. How
does having an autoimmune disease affect your viability as an
organ donor?
Speaker 3 (47:26):
I think in general it probably doesn't unless there are
certain circumstances. I feel like, either if you're if you're
a living donor, or you're donating organs, or you're even
doing post mortem organ donation like skin or cornea. I
think that there's really not that many things that they
(47:46):
turned down except really like infections sometimes cancers or things
like that. But they could always use something, and I don't.
I would say, like, let's say, for example, a person
has a alcoholicseurosis, or if they have hepatitis and they
need a liver transplant, when there are livers that bad
that they say you need a liver transplant and you
(48:08):
can't live without one, Taking a liver from somebody even
with rheumatar arthritis or any kind of autoimmune disease would
be better than nothing. The only time I could see
that that might be a problem is if there's an
autoimmune hepatitis, just because there could be damage to the liver.
(48:32):
But even so, I'm not really sure what the criteria are.
But I really and the same with skin, like you
could have some kind of autoimmune skin conditions, so they
might not want to donate that. But I just I
don't really think that it's an issue, but I could
be wrong. I'm not one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
All right too, This from Renee. I love your show.
I never missed an episode. I downloaded twelve hours of
your older podcast while flying to Europe this summer. Can't
get enough of you girls in the Crazy Stories. I
really want to know what Nicole has to say about
placenta specimens. Does the hospital sell them? Are they really
worth what people are saying they are fifty K Is
(49:13):
there a special protocol for disposing of them or could
there be a way for a middleman to step in
and bring them to a facility where they can use
the stem cells. I work in the operating room as
a surgical tech and know there are products we use
for hemostasis that involve placenta stem cells. We use them
to help promote healing in wounds, mostly in pedietary and
(49:33):
trauma wounds. I have asked multiple sales reps to explain
where these placenta's stem cells come from, and no one
can give me an explanation. I'm totally planned on taking
mine home from the hospital like Nicole one day. Yeah
you should. It's a good trinket and it's your organ
and you made it, so you should keep it.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Honestly, I kind of have similar questions, and I'm going
to say from my perspective of b both of the
major jobs that I've had working in surgical pathology and
even just rotating, I've rotated at almost every local hospital
around here, been in surgical pathology at some point or
(50:13):
no people that work there. I particularly, I think that
it happens prior to pathology. I've never seen cases like
we don't get all of the placentas that are delivered
in pathology. We only get ones that have a problem
because if we got all of them, it would be
(50:34):
a problem for us big time.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
It's just too many. It would be too much work.
So we get them.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
If the mom had an infection, if there was something
wrong with the fetus, if it was a multiple berth,
if there was the mom was on drugs, like there's
all this this list of reasons that we would get
a placentate, but all of the standard normal births. Most
pathology labs don't see any of them. So I have
no idea what happened with those placentas. That would be
(51:02):
something you want to or if one of our listeners
listens that works on an ob floor, like what happens
with them?
Speaker 2 (51:10):
When we get it?
Speaker 3 (51:12):
We put it in formaldehyde, so that I believe would
just like not the specimen would no longer even be
eligible for that because we're we're you know, formaldehyde is
killing everything in it, So we do it, especially if
a person had any kind of infection like HIV infection
(51:34):
anything like that. Like we put it in formaldehyde or
formal in, which is like a water down formaldehyde, just
to just so it's not infectious for us because we're
cutting it and it's a super bloody specimen. But then
you wouldn't take cord blood from that. So I don't
know if they take the chords before they send them
(51:54):
to us or anything. But once we're done with them,
we make microscopic slides with them. The pathologist looks at it,
if they're satisfied, we keep it for you know, like
a month, and then we throw it. We incinerate it
with the medical waste. So from my perspective, I've never
seen that happening. So I really don't I really don't know.
(52:16):
But I've heard about all of these cord studies and
this and that, and I'm just like, well, where are
you getting it from, because it's certainly not coming from
the pathology department in most cases.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
Interest all right, this last one's from Tara, Hi, Nicole,
and Maria. I listened to you at work and it's
always the highlight of my day. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
That's very nice.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
I wanted to comment on your road clean up question.
My parents live in California, and their neighbor had a
psychotic episode and stabbed his mother before walking down the
street shooting an assault rifle. He tried to shoot my dad,
but fortunately the gun jammed. My parents live on a
street that ends on a main boulevard. The man that
went up on the boulevard and started shooting at cars
(52:56):
at that time, the police were there and shot him
in the middle of the street. His pool of blood
was left in the street, along with various medical supplies
such as gauze and god knows what else. He ended
up dying of the gunshot. Nobody ever cleaned his blood up.
It slowly faded from the sun and the rain. I
guess this doesn't answer your question, but maybe they just
leave it. Can you imagine? No, I can't. Actually, that
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to me doesn't sound typical. But I don't know if
you're in a more suburban area. I just know that,
like I said before, my husband's been called to clean
blood off.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
But that's in a city, so it might be. I
just think it's it's a blood borne pathogen. It just
shouldn't be sitting out there for kids to run through
with by accident with their bike or and and just
from a litter perspective of loan, like having a pile
of gloves and gauze and clean up. There is weird
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that anybody even left that. But it could just be
like they called and said, hey, come clean this up
and it all through the cracks and someone didn't do it,
because I would think that that is something that should
not be there.
Speaker 4 (54:06):
Cops can't just have like a little power water in
their car to like their job. Like I know, I'm
just saying like somebody can't clumb through because like sometimes
I see blood on the street, but mentally, I'm just
like it has to be from a deer. I can't
accept that it would be anything else. But you know,
there was just that bad accident near us last week,
you know where that person got killed on thirty eight
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and oh yeah, imagine knowing that a person got killed
and then driving by that spot and seeing a giant
bloodstain every day until it raindo went away.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
I feel like it's probably the same crew they call
when there's animals on the road because they because they
have all the equipment to pick up the I mean
like in that case that she's talking about, they're not
going to leave pieces of the human there because that
would go to the medical examiner's office. But the same thing,
like let's say, for example, a person got hit by
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an e bike right so hard that like their leg
flew off. The medical examiner is gonna take the dead
body and they're gonna go and pick up the leg
and put the leg in a body bag too, and
bring it all together to keep the body there. But
it's not the medical examiner's job to clean up the
blood off the sidewalk, so somebody like and.
Speaker 4 (55:22):
Those aren't always perfect because you know, we have stories
where people get by trains and like a child will
come across their like nose in a field or something
next to me.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
Yeah, but that's but that's just because they didn't find it.
Like I said, like people go and clean it up.
But I mean, when you're getting hit by a train
that's going super fast that you're in the force of
it blows your body up, like a piece can fly
one hundred feet away, you know, like and they just
might not find it in the media area, which is
what happened in that case.
Speaker 4 (55:50):
Well, sorry that happened to you, thankfully the gun jam.
I know that's scary for your dad, jeez, I know
it's horrible. Well, guys, if you have wild stories for
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and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
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Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. The past couple of episodes,
we've covered Domestic Violence Awareness Month with Jim Schmidt talking
about his daughter Gabby Petito, who was murdered and was
a victim of domestic violence. Yesterday's episode was a crossover
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with us. So today we have a lot of news
stories to catch up on. We're going to start off
with Kim Kardashian and her brain aneurysm that may have
been caused by Kanye West. A woman who set her
building on fire because she was trying to kill a cockroach.
A grandfather that was boiled alive at a hotel, a
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man who was dead for days at a retirement home
and no one noticed, of course, and let's finish it
off with monkeys with herpes. We'll finish the episode with
your questions comments. All that moral Titty's episode. Let's get
started with the Kim Kardashian story. It's every week with
this woman.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, there are new seasons airing right now, so you're
definitely going to see a bunch of stuff. So the
trailer came out for the Kardashians and Kim revealed that
she got one of those full body pernuvo scans. Were
we just talking to Elvis about this last year, Well,
he wanted a surgeon to open open him up and
fully look inside, not just do it.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yes, that was I don't know if you guys listened to,
because we did another episode with Elvis Duran himself and
he was asking me, like, can people just I didn't
even understand what he was saying, but he was just saying, like,
can I just get a surgeon to caught me open
and look around tell me if anything's wrong? And I said, no,
(02:04):
I don't think anybody's going to do that for you.
You could get one of these full body scans that
they're always advertising, but you definitely can't get someone to
just do an exploratory laborotomy on you just to see
if something's wrong when you have absolutely no symptoms.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
So that was funny, pretty insane to what somebody does.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I'm just like, I'm like, why would you want that?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
So Kim got one of these done and then they
detected she had a quote little brain aneurism. What are
your thoughts on this?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I just think this is such bullshit, Like when if
you get one of these full body scans on any
single person, you're just gonna find something a little weird.
And the fact that they said she has a little
brain aneurysm is just like, it just means that one
of her vessels in her brain is bulging a little bit.
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But she didn't say anything that they were treating it,
so it's just like, if they're not going to treat it,
it's just.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Not that big of a deal.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Well, she didn't reveal yet because she went on Good
Morning America earlier this week and said, basically, you have
to watch the episode to find out what happened, which,
of course, well, if.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I mean, if she did get treatment, then I would say, okay,
then that's a little bit more of a significant finding,
because like, people live with brain aneurysms all the time,
small ones, and it never causes a problem. If it's
if it's incidentally identified on a scan such as this,
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or maybe you're getting a scan for something else, they're
gonna want to watch it just to make sure that
it doesn't get worse because they are at risk of
bursting and then you could have real problems, so you
could die from it. Actually, when we were at the
Dark Side, New Jersey, was that two weeks ago now
or ye two saturdays ago, two saturdays ago, which we
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did do a live episode and that will get posted
as soon as we get the audio from that, because.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
That makes we promised.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah, it's coming, we promise, and it was a good episode,
so I want you guys to hear it. But anyway,
one of our our listeners came up to us at
that at that Oddity exhibit at the Dark Side and
she told us.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
She says to me, oh, I'm.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
So glad I was able to get here, get out
of the hospital in time to get here. So I
don't know my brain just because there's a lot of
people listening to us at our nurses and doctors and
things like that. I was I was like, oh, where
do you work And she was like, no, I'm actually
in I was in the hospital. I had a ruptured
anneurism and a brain bleed. And I was like, holy shit.
(04:43):
Because she she's pretty young, She's probably around my age
or maybe even younger. So it really happens and for
so in the episode, apparently Kim Kardashian said that she
got this aneurism because of Kanye West.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
That's not true necessarily. The trailer alluded to the fact
that it was stressed around the time of her divorce,
although a source is now saying aka their pr person,
that she's not blaming it on Kanye because at the
time she was getting it done, or at the time
the scan happened and they detected the aneurysm, it was
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in the middle of her divorce, she was going through
the bar exam, i believe for the third time, and
she was getting ready to go to Paris for the
trial for her robbery. So she had three extremely stressful
things happening in her life on top of the stress
of being a famous person and just not being able
to live like a normal human being.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
But in the trailer or the episode, she said specifically
that it was because of stress from Kanye West, and
then they kind of backtracked it a little bit. Well, yeah,
because that's what it believes. Well, it probably plays to
her not wanting to talk shit about her kid's dad. No,
it plays to the fact that every single person in
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the world, like myself is going to be like, that's
not what happens, right, Like, that doesn't even make any sense.
So I guess in theory because if you have high,
like chronic high blood pressure, that would increase your risk
for an aneurysm. And in theory, you could have high
blood pressure if you're under stress a lot. So like that,
it's it's just a stretch. It's not caused by it's
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not caused by stress, because then people would be dropping
like flies for everybody's got stress in their life, and really, like,
she doesn't have money stress, which a lot of people have,
so it's just different stress, right, It's not any worse
than anybody else's, So so I think that that's kind
of that's I feel like that's personally why they put
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out the statement that wasn't caused by that, because a
bunch of people were going to be like, dude, that's
not you just made that up.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
That's not even true.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Well it's interesting though that they are backtracking on it,
and I don't know what the real reason is it
behind it, If it's actually people calling her out saying
that's bullshit, or she like was like I didn't want
to say something like that, and it looks bad obviously,
but they're saying from the trailer, and they also picked
up that she's blaming her psoriasis flare ups on the
stress of her divorce, and she also discussed having Stockholm syndrome,
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which is when you start being loving and having a
positive attitude towards your captor abuser.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
So interesting, Well, getting back to this MRI, Like, the
way the article's written is she was having a routine MRI.
There's no such thing as a routine MRI. Well, that's
what I was going to ask you too. There's just
not they don't they're test that could cost hundreds and
thousands of dollars. They're not just doing them on everyone
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just to see if if you have something, so bit
like everybody needs to see that. This whole entire episode
is an ad for this that she's making thousands of
dollars off of.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
And they are all it is ad about it because, uh,
Chris got it done before, and I remember you and
I got a little tiff about it.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Because you're saying it's so unnecessary for people to get done.
But I'm like, if you have the money to do,
who cares?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And this is the thing, Like I would actually love
to see the report and see how it all goes
down and listen like when we I guess when next
week's episode comes out, we could be having a totally
different situation. But like her doing advertisements for them, the
best case scenario is that they do find something that
could potentially be deadly, because then every single person's gonna
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watch it and be like, oh my god, Kim Kardashian
almost died of a hemorrhagic stroke. We have to get
this test done to make sure that doesn't happen to us.
So it could have just been like this hair millimeter,
like it's it's kind of on the edge of abnormal,
barely abnormal. But they were like, Nope, we're gonna use
that because that's gonna go viral, which is exactly what's happening, right.
(08:50):
So I mean, I could be I could stand corrected
if they say next week, like she had to undergo
brain surgery and have this thing repaired and clipped or
you know, embolize, whatever they do for it. I just
I just don't. I just don't foresee that happening. I
just think that this and this has been a complaint
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with this show since the newer ones come out that
every single episode is just an ad for their their brand,
and this is just an ad and nobody is looking
at it like that.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Well, you know, a lot of people have been complaining
about that. There's this show on Netflix called Nobody Wants
Us with Kristen Bell and Adam Brody and it's this
huge show and the second season just came out last Wednesday.
And I like the show. It's like cute and fun,
but definitely between season one last year and this season,
I'm like, the product placement is unbelievable. They will literally
be holding up a Dunkin Donuts cup for like ten minutes.
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It's outrageous, and they'll be talking so much about.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
A product it's like they don't even try to hide
it in the you know when you watch Seinfeld and
they're like, oh, I'm gonna eat an oreo. You know,
like little things like that. They are just straight up
holding products up for such a long time. And that's
the complaint because people are like, we're not stupid. There's
a way to like have some sort of subliminal messaging
where you're mentioning it and it's not so in our face.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Because yeah, because I think like if it wasn't an
AD then you would have just you would have just said, oh,
she had an MRI, Like why are you saying what
brand of MRI she had?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Like it's just like, come on, dude, I.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Know somebody that got one of these done. What the
MRI the pranuvo.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Thing, Yeah, and and how I mean they.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Had positive results from it, but it was also like
unnecessary but whatever, I mean, because there it's just it's
just it's very exactly.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
That's what's very important to say that it's not it's
not a screening test. I mean, you could use it
as that if you pay for it, but like, the
average person isn't getting that done the way that they
say it in the articles, like oh, this person's getting
a papsme or a colonoscopy or things that are are
typically covered by insurance that people are supposed to be
getting annually or semianally or whenever they're supposed to get
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these certain tests done. So it's it's not a routine screening.
There's no person in the world that's just like oh yeah,
like it's it's such a skin like all of it.
So I think that's all that I really I really
wanted to say about that. I mean, the risk factors
that go along with aneurysms are, like I said, high
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blood pressure. Also obviously if you drink, do cocaine, smoke,
that could increase it. It could just be like a genetic thing,
and it also could be a thing when she was
developing as a fetus that there's just like a weakness
in the wall there. There's certain conditions and syndrums. You
could see it with connective tissue disorders and stuff like.
I don't know what's going on with her, but if
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it's minor, it's just like what of all right?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
A woman is facing charges after accidentally setting her apartment
building on fire trying to kill a cockroach with a
lighter and hairspray, which then lets the death of her neighbor.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I know, it's like, oh, she used the makeshift flame frower,
and I was just like, okay, wait a second, what
did she use? Like what did you think was gonna happen?
And listen, cockroaches are are probably the worst. I like, really,
what's worse a cockroach or a mouse or in your house?
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I don't even know. I would actually say, see, I
think like a cockroach is just so much worse because
I feel like with first, the mice are just bigger,
and you know, you can get that under control at
some point if you see them, if you have a
cat something like that. Like the cockroaches are just they
lay these eggs. You can't see them, and it's I
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don't know, it freaks me out.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Usually if you see one, it means there's like hundreds,
find me exactly.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
That's why I just like, like, fortunately I never had
to deal with them, but God, at the one hospital
I worked at they were in the more they were
coming out of the drain, it was just terrible and
it was like something you could just like never get
rid of, you know, and they don't. And like I
also have a thing with insects that don't fly, you know,
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like if they if something comes in the room and flies,
then you're kind of like, Okay, that came from outside
or something. You could just justify it. But like big
things like that crawling like uh no, So I understand
that she wanted to kill it, but like could have
used a shoe, Like.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
What is your most skewed bug?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Probably, I would say, like a cockroach or like those
water bugs.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
The mine is sprickets because I have them in my basement.
I go down there the Changewa wash and you know,
my basement floor is like brown, so they blend into
the ground and then one will jump towards me and
it makes you want to die.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I hate it.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And what I don't even know if I told you
this one got in my hand for the other day.
When I dumped it on my bed, one of them
jumped out and I almost passed out.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
They are so disgusting.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
I don't understand. I don't understand them. I feel like
I've never seen one outside once. I only they're like
specific basement bugs.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Well there you know that little shed on the back
of my house. There's like a gajillion of them in there, really,
and I don't know where they come from. There show discussing,
and they're not always in my basement just sometimes. Yeah,
I guess they're kind of scary. I don't know, it's
just weird, like and it's weird how our mind does that?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Like, I feel like most people would say if they
saw like a ladybug, they would pick it up and
be like, oh, this is cute, and like or a
lightning bug, they would like let it crawl on them
and hold their you know, hold it on their hand,
and they would think.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It was cute.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
And then when you think about like a cockroach, it's
just like people want to get a bottle of hairspray
and put a lighter towards it and set people's houses
on fire and kill people.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
They're hard to kill them. You really can't just crush
one with your shoe and they can live. I think
they said that it will only bugs that could survive
like a nuclear attack.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
They can live forever.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I think they can live a week with out their head.
They're very unusual creatures.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
So we had, like I said, at one of the
hospitals I worked out, we had a serious cockroach problem
in the morgue. But we also had it just in
the part of the hospital that we were in where
the lab was and you would just be sitting there
and look up and you know, when you have like
a fluorescent light drop ceiling situation, you would be able
to see them like crawling on that piece of plastic
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that covers the fluorescent light.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
So one day we were sitting there and one of
the secretaries was back there and one of them like
fell out of this ceiling onto her jacket. Oh my god,
she was like a bo She was like she was
so emotionally disturbed by it, like it was I felt
terrible for her. But one day we tried to play
a trick on one of the pathologists. So we decided
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that we were going to take one of these cockroaches
that we found, and we were going to and it
was already dead. So like for all those people that
are trying to protect bugs, it was already a dead bug.
And we were gonna we were going to play a
trick on one of the pathologists, and we were going
to tell them that it came down as a specimen
and it was in someone's ear, and we were going
to make a frozen section of it. So that's something
(16:11):
that we typically do when a person's getting surgery done
and they're open on the operating table. We'll look at
something under the microscope really fast to see if we
could Usually it's done to guide the surgeon to be like, oh,
you could close the person up, or you have to
take more tissue or something like that. So we made
up this whole story and we stick the cockroach in
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this frozen bath of liquid nitrogen. To freeze it, and
we try to make a frozen section of it, and
we can't even cut it onto slides because the exoskeleton
is essentially like cartilage or bone, like you just can't
cut it with a blade that's like a razor blade.
But we got a couple chunks of like antennae, and
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we brought the slide to the pathologists and we were like,
this was in someone's ear, what do you think it is?
And he looks at it under the microscope and he's like, well,
it's some kind of ants. I see bug parts under here.
Like it was so funny and we were laughing about it,
but we just didn't even think that we wouldn't be
able to cut the thing because it was so tough,
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like the outer surface of it.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
They really are so big and so gross, and people
think that the bigger ones are the issue, but really
the small brown ones are the serious problem.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Ew they're just eh.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
So this is what happened in this case. So she
uses this makeshift flamethrower from the lighter in hairspray a
five point thirty in the morning, which sets the apartment
on fire. So then her neighbor who just gave birth
two months before her and her husband and their two
month old baby are in their apartment and the apartments
are filling up with smokes. They can't get out the
front door, so I guess there was another building or
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part of this apartment building was only three feet away
out of their window about a meter, So they were
trying to get into this other apartment across the alleyway.
So they hand the baby over to the neighbor and
another apartment. The husband ends up getting over and then
the wife's going over and she fell five stories to
her death.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah, like this, I mean, this is just like so irresponsible.
And that's the scary part when you live in close
quarters with people that you could do. You know, you
hear about this in New York all the time, with
the scooters and the bicycles catching on fire. But by
the way, so we went to New York last night
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to see the screening of the Love and War documentary
for nat GEO Docs, which is going to be out
in a week or two, I believe, on Hulu. It
was awesome. I highly recommend you guys seeing it, but
you know, we don't, and certainly we go to New
York to go to the iHeartRadio, but we don't really
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go at night usually, like sometimes you'll go get dinner
with our friends or whatever. But we got this really
awesome parking spot, but it was next to a bike
lane and we get out of the car and there's
people in this bike lane on those e scooters and
e bikes. It's scary as hell, Like, I feel like
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you can get seriously injured, if not killed, if one
of those things hit you. It's just a weird thing
that I wasn't expecting. I almost feel more comfortable crossing
the street with moving cars than those things, because it
just was like the weirdest thing ever. That was a
side note.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
I eclipped by somebody on a regular bike when I
was interning in New York and it was horrible. So
I can't imagine getting hit by one of those there
are little vehicles.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
It's weird because they've again they've come on the scene
fairly quickly that there. I don't think there's been a
lot of laws implemented with them. It's just weird to
watch something that could go that fast be in something
that's considered to be a bicycle lane. I also think
it's probably dangerous for people that are on a regular
bike too.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Oh totally. Yeah, it can go pretty fast.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It was. It just was like a really weird thing.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
I was just kind of scared to cross that particular lane.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
What were we talking about?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I don't even understand, like the tangents, Oh, like living
in close quarters with someone. We've talked about this before,
that people will put their e bikes to charge with
these fake chargers and these fake batteries, and then it
sets the whole apartment building on fire. So even if
you're doing the right thing in your particular building, you
have to deal with everyone else that lives in your building.
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Hopefully they're doing the right thing too.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Oh totally. And this woman's not the only person that
I mean, she died, but there was eight other people
that were injured in the fire. They just got minor
injuries though from smoke inhalation, which still sucks. None of
them were life threatening. But so they want to charge
this woman with accidentally starting a fire and causing death
by negligence, and I feel like that's reasonable. I mean,
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what the fuck was she thinking?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I don't know, like why would you? Yeah, like, what
are you thinking? There's a thousand she could have used I.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Mean it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, And I mean we don't know the full story
of it.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Like maybe it's a huge problem and she's called the
landlord a lot and they're not doing anything and she
you know what I mean, Like there might be more
to the story.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
But still it's just.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
That you can't just like go using Yeah, it's such
a flammable thing.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, if you're just like, if you're just like a
human living in society, like you should just know that.
That's a terrible idea. It's scary that you don't know that.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Actually.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Okay, back in May, this grandpa was staying at a
hotel because he was going to see his granddaughter graduate
from college the next day. And at the hotel he
is taking a shower, but the water was so hot
that he was essentially boiled alive and found unconscious a
little while later by his grandson.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
So was he taking a shower or he was taking
a bath?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I think he was.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Taking a shower, But they were saying they found him
submerged in water. So was it one of those like
the drain wasn't fully or did he was he in
the bath and the shower head was turned on I'm
not really sure. Well, regardless, I think so. Gandhi actually
texted this morning and asked about this, like, what, how
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the hell did this happen? And I think obviously the
headline's a little sensationalized, I mean, but technically not at
the same time, because what you know, I don't know
how it works in hotels, but I know in the house,
for example, our hot water heater, you could adjust how
(22:34):
hot the water is, and in our house we do
keep we keep the water extra hot, because number one,
I'd like to take really hot bass. But number two,
I find that it's easy to wash dishes if you
just if you eat dinner and you just run it
under really hot water, like you don't even.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Need to use soap. It just cleans the dish, you know.
That's what they do in restaurants and stuff too. I guess.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
So I'm a.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Assuming that at hotels as well, there's some kind of
a gauge on it, because most cities and most states
recommend a certain temperature, so like one hundred and twenty
degrees for example, that they think that humans can tolerate,
just to prevent accidental burns like this. So there's that
this guy is also he's old, a little bit older,
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seventy seven, So he's seventy seven. So when you get older,
your skin gets a lot thinner. You lose subcutaneous fat,
or the fat that's underneath of your skin. That's why
with old people you see that they get these huge
bruises on their arm just by like walking by the
table and bumping it, just because the skin gets so thin.
I don't know if you remember, like years ago about
(23:45):
this woman that got burned really bad with the hot
coffee at McDonald's. It was like this huge lawsuit and well.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, because even Seinfeld made an episode about it because
it was such a big deal.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Yeah, And when you look at the details of that case,
it was like the woman was a little bit elderly,
she had thinner skin, and she ended up getting third
degree burns, which arets should just not happen with with
coffee unless it's served too hot. And that was the
whole lawsuit was like it was served too hot. And
I'll tell you right now, like I get we get
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coffee sometimes from a place and it's so hot, like
I can't even touch it for an hour at least,
it's just so hot, like it actually burns my hands
through the insulated cup. I just know that the temperature
is not right on it, and that's what's scary, because
when they're handing it to you through the drive through,
that just is a potential for it to fall on
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you and burn you like that, right, So that so
in this case, if they find this guy dead in
the top, they're obviously going to do an autopsy to
try to find out exactly what happened. And when they
did the autopsy, they found that they didn't see anything
that would have caused his immediate death except the fact
that he had these burn on thirty percent of his body.
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So what happens. You know, your skin's an organ, right.
A lot of people don't think about your skin being
an organ, but it's an organ. So when you get
burns on a large portion of your body, there's a
lot of different things to consider that could happen, but
in the immediate So in the future, you might think
(25:23):
about infections because your skin is the barrier that holds
you from the outside world, and when you don't have that,
you just have an increased risk of like bacteria stuff
getting through your skin. But that wouldn't happen instantaneously in
the immediate danger of getting burns Like this is because
your skin is also responsible for regulating your body temperature,
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and your body temperature is important because your organs have
to stay at a certain temperature in order for them
to function correctly. So think about when you have a fever,
for example, that would be considered hyperthermia because you're you're
hotter than you're supposed to be. And think about like
how shitty you feel when you have one hundred degree fever,
even just a minor fever, you feel totally, you feel
(26:06):
like shit, right, So, so that that the skin is
helping regulate your body temperature, and when you have that
large of a portion of your skin burned, you could
be caught. You could get hyperthermia, and that's exactly what
or hypothermia you could. It fluctuates depending, but you can
die from that. It could cause your organs to shut
down and die from that. So they determined that that
(26:29):
was what killed him, and you know, of course they're
going to go back and the other factors are going
to be that he was older and his skin was thinner,
so he was like at more of a risk for burns,
and well, listen, to.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
The details of this. They're saying the water was so
dangerously hot that they could not initially lift him from
the tub. As they struggled desperately to save him, they
were forced to watch in horror as his skin peeled
away from his body, and then they said they could
not touch him without burning themselves.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah, and that wasn't even immediately after. That wasn't in
me iediately after, Like they didn't hear a because you
were saying he took a shower, So I'm assuming that
they would have. If he was taking a shower, there
would have been some kind of a thump.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
The lawsuit is saying they believe they found him within minutes,
but I don't.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Think the water were still.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, and think about that, like when you when you
take a bath, when you're not in a bathtub, that
that has a jet, right, the water's hot and it
cools down pretty fast. So if it was that hot
there had there could have been something broke on whatever
regulator controls the temperature of it, or something happened. Maybe
(27:39):
they installed a new hot water heater. I know sometimes
when you go to airbnbs and stuff, the hot water
heater will be in the closet or something like. I
don't know if I've ever seen that at a hotel
that an actual person would have access to it to
change it like that, which is I guess also a
possibility if a person was there and taking showers and
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didn't think the water was hot enough, someone could have
messed with it if they had access to it. I
just don't see that because it was a Marriott or something, right.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
Yeah, do you think that it's possible he got in
the shower when it was a normal temperature and it
just got that hot so quickly that it kind of
like stunned his body that he couldn't move to turn
it off.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
It could have just been a lot of different things.
Because another thing to consider is that they said they
found him submerged in water, which to me would mean
that the that it was plugged because normally the water
goes down the drain.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
But is it possible he fell and blocked the drains? Yeah,
then it started filling up.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, that's possible.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's also just possible the plug was in and the
water was filling up and then his feet to his
you know, mid calf, was submerged in water that hot
would also increase your body temperature and could make you,
you know, pass out. I don't know exactly what happened,
but they did say that he had high blood pressure,
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which was a contributing factor. So that would be not
only from like looking at the medications that he's on
in a history of high blood pressure perhaps, but also
you could see if a person has long standing high
blood pressure, you could see that the pomp or the
left ventricle of their heart is enlarged because their heart
(29:21):
is working harder. And when you work, just like if
you work a muscle in your arm, it gets bigger.
It's the same exact thing with your heart, so it's
working harder and getting bigger. But they didn't think that
it was severe enough that it would have caused him
to die. And based with those burns, I mean this
is like a huge lawsuit.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Oh for sure. I mean totally unaccepted.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
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Speaker 3 (29:58):
And speaking of people getting boiled alive, we actually have
a case in the Grosser Room from when a person
was actually boiled alive. It's a it's a vintage case.
And it's really really, it's so disturbing. But you know,
that's why I was saying that the title of the
(30:18):
of the other article was a little sensationalized. But I
I was making Matza ball soup this weekend, and I
was making the broth. And when you do that, you
put a whole entire chicken and you cook it over
hours for it to really be boiled, right, and when
you get to the soup hours later, it's just like
(30:39):
the bones are completely separated from the meat. And that
would that's what I think of boiled alive. And in
this case, in no, it's I mean it it's it's
it's really disturbing, but that's I mean, that's what it
is what it is. So in this case in the
grosser room. So this was a this was actually a friend.
(31:00):
Like Friday I wrote about what happens when a person
spoiled alive, this person was actually boiled alive and looks
more similar to the remains of my soup than just
a person that has severe burns on their body. Like
there's and something weird happened with the bone and it
involves a dog, and it's just this story is absolutely
(31:22):
crazy and it's actually probably a murder that was that
was hidden. But that's a side note. So what else
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(31:42):
through the movie Sleepy Hollow as well as the movie
Seven and just said is this probable or not? Is
this you know, all of the different scenes, we kind
of go through put clips of the movie and it
was really fun. So which if you join the grocerroom,
you all have access to all that stuff too. But
then this year we did Scream, and we did it
a little differently because Scream was actually based on a
(32:05):
real life serial killer and it's just cool to see
what parts of the actual story they took and just
like what was the inspiration for the movie and compare
and can trast the different things. But then we also
compare it to another murder case that's more recent and
(32:25):
one of the most disturbing, really disturbing serial killers out
there that's not talked about that much, So make sure.
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Speaker 2 (32:40):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
This woman went to visit her seventy five year old
uncle at his retirement home and when she got there,
she found him dead in his chair, saying he looked
like a skeleton. This is another like lawsuit worthy.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
What the hell is going on at this place?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
They had man dates to check in on the people
and the residence if they didn't hear from them by
a certain point every day, and they did not do that, yeah,
for what was it, three or four days? Yeah, so
it ended up being the sheriff said they thought he
was sitting there basically for three to four days. And obviously,
(33:16):
like if he just died of natural causes, like them
checking on him or not, wouldn't have made him, you know,
would have revived him. But he shouldn't have been sitting
there for three to four days. It's disgraceful.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
The whole entire thing is actually interesting because obviously so
it happened in shccer Maricopa County. It seems like that's
where all the shady business is happening there in Arizona.
So in Arizona it's hot as hell still, so I
would assume that buildings like that have air conditioning, so
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that would definitely slow down decomposition for sure, but it
would still be happening. And I would think after three
to four days of a body being out in room
temperature like that that it would start to And I
don't believe that it looked I mean, I definitely think
that it could have had some changes that could have
(34:09):
make the face appear to be more sunken in, But
I don't think that the body looked like a skeleton,
because it's just there's not enough time for that to happen.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
No, I mean, it was probably more just her misspeaking
about seeing No.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I'm sure he looked disturbing as hell. And I guess
the thing that's more that's bothersome to me is that
that no one smelled that. If they're living in rooms
within a building like that, I just can't imagine that
that wasn't addressed. And obviously, I mean that's the scary.
(34:48):
It's it's almost like sticking your kid in a daycare center,
like you don't you trust, and you go visit and
you think it's okay, but you have these either babies
that can't talk for them adults that can't talk for themselves,
that are they can possibly be getting mistreated and you
wouldn't even know it, and that's why you pay for
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I mean, like the guy would have been better off
being at his house by himself.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Yeah, but all right, So like, yeah, and I think
that the niece was really trusting of this facility because
their policy was that they were that all residents were
supposed to push a button a signal that they were
all right by ten am every day, and if the
staff did not receive that signal from them, they were
supposed to reach out. But in his case, he didn't
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push the button. They said, they tried to call him,
couldn't get in touch with him, and then nobody ever
physically went up to his apartment to check on him,
which is completely unacceptable. But his wife just died. He
only has lived in this place since January, and seemingly
it had seemed like a good place to be until this.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, it could exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Like it just it could just be like, uh a,
you know, we were talking a couple of weeks ago
about that that nurse that handed you know, there was
the wrong baby handed to the wrong mother. Yeah, it's
just like It probably has something to do with a
change in shifts and people not following some kind of
(36:17):
protocol that they should be following, and multiple you know,
we were saying with the case with the nurse, there's
like multiple checks in place, so if some if something
does fall through the cracks, like the next backup person
is supposed to catch it. All of the systems in
the hospital are set up like that, and it's probably
some kind of failure with that, I would say more
(36:39):
than if if the place has a pretty good rep
I would say it's probably that more than just like
pure negligence.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Well yeah, I mean I could even see if there
was a shift change on day one and they missed it,
But three to four days in a.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Row, now, yeah, not even day one. I mean, it's
just it's not it's not.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Unacceptable too, but you could see it, you know, happening
a little more in that situation, but clearly they were
not doing their job.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
And just like you going and visiting your family member
and thinking you're going to see them alive and then
seeing them dead would be traumatic in itself, but to
see a dead body that's decomposing is just so traumatic
and we'll never get erased out of that woman's mind.
You know, that's that's like a pain and suffrage situation.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I sure as ill.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I wouldn't want to see my loved one like that.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
So and she shouldn't have had Yeah, she shouldn't have
had two you exactly. It's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
Earlier this week, a truck transporting monkeys to a Florida
testing lab gotten horrific accident, causing the monkeys to get loose,
and apparently the driver incorrectly told police that they were
very dangerous and infected with herpes hepatato sea in COVID.
So people were freaking out, but it was not true
that they were infected with anything.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
So when I first heard that, like I barely know
anything about what gets done in RESAR, but just to me,
I just was like, this is why would they purposely
infect monkeys with all of these different viruses?
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Like I could.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
See one and maybe even two if you want to
see how they act together. It's just a little like
what study are they doing? Oh, we want to see
the implications of a monkey that has viral hepatitis that
also gets a COVID infection and a herpes infection at
the same time, like it just seems like a little
bit of a stretch to do that, to give these
(38:34):
monkeys that, so so I was just kind of like, Okay,
I just don't understand why this guy thought that and
why he said it out loud or did it just
get lost in translation.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
I'm sure, but the university they were being transported from
was saying they didn't have any infectious diseases at all,
So I'm not really sure where that even came from.
It seems like it was totally fabricated. But before they
knew that they caught some of the monkeys and euthanize.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Them, Well, I was thinking that too, just in general,
I mean they have I mean, what's the difference like
those those those monkeys are getting killed. They're being used
for scientific research, so they would have gotten killed either
way when they were done with them. And it's it's
actually upsetting because there were reports that these monkeys were aggressive.
(39:25):
But was that false too, I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Well, you know, they were saying that the monkeys weren't dangerous, but.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
But they weren't dangerous from a transmissible infection standpoint or
like to personally, I don't think they were dangerous from
what you're saying, but after you watch you know, documentaries
and stuff like chim crazy, monkeys are not necessarily the
safest well animals to be around humans.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
This is the thing though.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Chimps are are closest to us that if you were
to do it would be the best because they're they're
genetically the closest to us. But they get a little angy,
like yeah, like I think Charlette Nash, Charlotte, Yeah, Charlotte
Nash like, which is another another one we wrote about
in the Gross Room with a disturbing of of that,
(40:17):
and you said, there's like a whole isn't there like
a whole show about that?
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Chimp crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
So they follow around this woman Tanya that's like absolutely
insane that has this chimp.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
She like stole one.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
It was like fugitive, it's insane. But they did have
a I think the second episode is all about the
other incident where the that chimp ripped off Carla Nash's
face and it was horrific. I mean that you were
saying you were maybe gonna show Lucia because she like
Tiger King, and I was like, I don't know. It
was pretty disturbing to watch as an adult.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
I don't know the story.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
The story is disturbing. So it's this monkey's called the
recis monkey. I think it's called but I guess they
use this particular one because there's a lot of them.
They grow or they grow, they live in all different
parts of the world, so they're easy to get and
they obviously they have a more chill disposition than a
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chimp would have. But the thing is with primates is
that they're very intelligent animals, so they know what's going
on this particular species, which is really crazy that they
say this. When they're studying them. They said that they
have social intelligence. They side with relatives when fights happen.
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They're very family oriented. They recruit allies when they attack
most and most of their daily lives are spent building
political alliances. So to me, if they're able to do
all that, then I would think if they see that
they're under the control of humans that are doing things
(41:53):
on them that hurt them, that they're like kind of
aware of what's happening a little bit more than the
average rabbit so does speak. So it is I mean, obviously,
like if they get let loose, they're gonna split, and
if they were enjoying it, why would they leave. They're
not enjoying it, right, They're leaving and now they're getting
(42:16):
so like their whole life was just for the purpose
of using them for that, and then they got destroyed
because of because they were potentially infectious, which you have
to do because they can transmit that to a human.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Well, I was gonna ask about the transmission to human,
but also, like I did notice they kept using the
terminology we've destroyed them, which was interesting, but I think
they were saying they killed them because of the infectious disease,
but then that part turned out not to be true
at all. But I get what you're saying in some capacity,
Like I hate when we covered I'm definitely not a
(42:53):
number one animal advocate, right, Like I'm not really fond
of animals that much, but I can definitely say it's
not right when, like, you know, a shark bites a
human when the shark is just in its home in
the ocean, and then the shark gets killed or a bear,
you know, like things like that really bothered me. So
I was like, this is so fucked up that they
like killed these monkeys after finding them but I guess
(43:15):
is it better that they got what they say destroyed
after they were found now than going to the lab
and continuing to get tortured the rest of their lives.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, I mean, it's just like do it now or
do it later kind of thing. It's the whole situation's
messed up. And it's actually we had a story while
we said this on our YouTube Live in the Grosser Room,
that we had a story last week that there was
some really bad accident and someone was transporting I mean cats.
It wasn't for research, it was for adoption. But the
(43:46):
same thing happened. The van that the cats were in
crash so bad that they were exposed to the street
and the cage is broke and they ran. And then
now you have I think they caught some of them,
but like you have cats living in the woods on
the side of a highway now that aren't used to
they could possibly be indoor cats and not used to
(44:08):
being outside.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
So then some some outlets were reporting that three were
still missing, while some outlets were reporting that one was
still missing. So, I mean, that's kind of eerie to
just know a monkey is on the loose, And I
guess you don't know the full state of the monkey,
if it's being tortured in a labits whole life, if
it's gonna have normal behavior or not. And even when
they do have normal behavior, they can still be aggressive
(44:31):
towards humans, probably especially when they feel threatened.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
So, I don't know if you saw this story this morning.
I just saw that people were out of Spirit Halloween
in Texas and this monkey wearing a diaper I seem,
singing from the ceiling and then the owner had to
lure it down with a cookie after the police were called.
But of like, why is the monkey in the store?
Speaker 3 (44:52):
Well, it's probably the owner's monkey, right, Well, no.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
I'm talking with the owner of the monkey. I don't
think it's a story's owner.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Oh okay, yeah, so, because because there's definitely like this,
there's been a change over the past couple of years
that there's not this line of like where is it
appropriate to bring animals? And obviously, like dogs are the
most socially acceptable ones, so people bring them to restaurants
(45:21):
and stuff like that. I don't know if it's necessary
that we put the ministroller and bring them to the mall,
but okay, do.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
What everybody else do, do.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Whatever you want to do.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
But whenever these lines are broken, then there's like the
habitual line crosser people that you know, they get exotic
animals like weird snakes and alligators and things like that
that you're not supposed to really even be handling in
your house, let alone bringing into public places and stuff
(45:52):
like that. So so this guy just had a monkey
with a diaper on and was like, you know what,
like I'm going to bring this monkey to the Hallween
store and get it a costume. And now you have
a monkey hanging from the rafters at Spirit Halloween. Like
that's that's where we're at right now.
Speaker 4 (46:08):
Yeah, And I don't I don't know how the people
are responding in the store, but I would certainly not
be comfortable, which is like I know.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Running around. Yeah, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:18):
I think having pet monkeys.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
I think it was like real popular in the eighties,
right that you guys used to get like catalogs in
the mail where you like order them. I feel like
a friend of mine said, like in their house in
South Philly, they I.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
Definitely never got a catalog to order a monkey.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
Well, I know somebody that did in their childhood and
they're about your age, so I don't know, definitely interesting.
I don't understand who would want a pet monkey, but
if it's for you, just be careful don't.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
End up in a series.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
So these particular monkeys, there's videos online and they're actually
really insane that they'll be in whatever country that they're
in and they kind of get together and go up
to humans and open their purse and like steal their
wallet and stuff. They're very intelligent, so you have to
think that they're gonna be pissed off because they're they're
(47:09):
not being treated well, right.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
And that's I'm saying, like, what, it's no quality of life? No, Okay,
let's move on to questions and your emails first. How
does having an autoimmune disease affect your viability as an
organ donor?
Speaker 3 (47:26):
I think in general it probably doesn't unless there are
certain circumstances. I feel like, either if you're if you're
a living donor, or you're donating organs, or you're even
doing post mortem organ donation like skin or cornea. I
think that there's really not that many things that they
(47:46):
turned down except really like infections sometimes cancers or things
like that. But they could always use something, and I don't.
I would say, like, let's say, for example, a person
has a alcoholicseurosis, or if they have hepatitis and they
need a liver transplant, when there are livers that bad
that they say you need a liver transplant and you
(48:08):
can't live without one, Taking a liver from somebody even
with rheumatar arthritis or any kind of autoimmune disease would
be better than nothing. The only time I could see
that that might be a problem is if there's an
autoimmune hepatitis, just because there could be damage to the liver.
(48:32):
But even so, I'm not really sure what the criteria are.
But I really and the same with skin, like you
could have some kind of autoimmune skin conditions, so they
might not want to donate that. But I just I
don't really think that it's an issue, but I could
be wrong. I'm not one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 4 (48:52):
All right too, This from Renee. I love your show.
I never missed an episode. I downloaded twelve hours of
your older podcast while flying to Europe this summer. Can't
get enough of you girls in the Crazy Stories. I
really want to know what Nicole has to say about
placenta specimens. Does the hospital sell them? Are they really
worth what people are saying they are fifty K Is
(49:13):
there a special protocol for disposing of them or could
there be a way for a middleman to step in
and bring them to a facility where they can use
the stem cells. I work in the operating room as
a surgical tech and know there are products we use
for hemostasis that involve placenta stem cells. We use them
to help promote healing in wounds, mostly in pedietary and
(49:33):
trauma wounds. I have asked multiple sales reps to explain
where these placenta's stem cells come from, and no one
can give me an explanation. I'm totally planned on taking
mine home from the hospital like Nicole one day. Yeah
you should. It's a good trinket and it's your organ
and you made it, so you should keep it.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
Honestly, I kind of have similar questions, and I'm going
to say from my perspective of b both of the
major jobs that I've had working in surgical pathology and
even just rotating, I've rotated at almost every local hospital
around here, been in surgical pathology at some point or
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no people that work there. I particularly, I think that
it happens prior to pathology. I've never seen cases like
we don't get all of the placentas that are delivered
in pathology. We only get ones that have a problem
because if we got all of them, it would be
(50:34):
a problem for us big time.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
It's just too many. It would be too much work.
So we get them.
Speaker 3 (50:40):
If the mom had an infection, if there was something
wrong with the fetus, if it was a multiple berth,
if there was the mom was on drugs, like there's
all this this list of reasons that we would get
a placentate, but all of the standard normal births. Most
pathology labs don't see any of them. So I have
no idea what happened with those placentas. That would be
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something you want to or if one of our listeners
listens that works on an ob floor, like what happens
with them?
Speaker 2 (51:10):
When we get it?
Speaker 3 (51:12):
We put it in formaldehyde, so that I believe would
just like not the specimen would no longer even be
eligible for that because we're we're you know, formaldehyde is
killing everything in it, So we do it, especially if
a person had any kind of infection like HIV infection
(51:34):
anything like that. Like we put it in formaldehyde or
formal in, which is like a water down formaldehyde, just
to just so it's not infectious for us because we're
cutting it and it's a super bloody specimen. But then
you wouldn't take cord blood from that. So I don't
know if they take the chords before they send them
(51:54):
to us or anything. But once we're done with them,
we make microscopic slides with them. The pathologist looks at it,
if they're satisfied, we keep it for you know, like
a month, and then we throw it. We incinerate it
with the medical waste. So from my perspective, I've never
seen that happening. So I really don't I really don't know.
(52:16):
But I've heard about all of these cord studies and
this and that, and I'm just like, well, where are
you getting it from, because it's certainly not coming from
the pathology department in most cases.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
Interest all right, this last one's from Tara, Hi, Nicole,
and Maria. I listened to you at work and it's
always the highlight of my day. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
That's very nice.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
I wanted to comment on your road clean up question.
My parents live in California, and their neighbor had a
psychotic episode and stabbed his mother before walking down the
street shooting an assault rifle. He tried to shoot my dad,
but fortunately the gun jammed. My parents live on a
street that ends on a main boulevard. The man that
went up on the boulevard and started shooting at cars
(52:56):
at that time, the police were there and shot him
in the middle of the street. His pool of blood
was left in the street, along with various medical supplies
such as gauze and god knows what else. He ended
up dying of the gunshot. Nobody ever cleaned his blood up.
It slowly faded from the sun and the rain. I
guess this doesn't answer your question, but maybe they just
leave it. Can you imagine? No, I can't. Actually, that
(53:20):
to me doesn't sound typical. But I don't know if
you're in a more suburban area. I just know that,
like I said before, my husband's been called to clean
blood off.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
But that's in a city, so it might be. I
just think it's it's a blood borne pathogen. It just
shouldn't be sitting out there for kids to run through
with by accident with their bike or and and just
from a litter perspective of loan, like having a pile
of gloves and gauze and clean up. There is weird
(53:51):
that anybody even left that. But it could just be
like they called and said, hey, come clean this up
and it all through the cracks and someone didn't do it,
because I would think that that is something that should
not be there.
Speaker 4 (54:06):
Cops can't just have like a little power water in
their car to like their job. Like I know, I'm
just saying like somebody can't clumb through because like sometimes
I see blood on the street, but mentally, I'm just
like it has to be from a deer. I can't
accept that it would be anything else. But you know,
there was just that bad accident near us last week,
you know where that person got killed on thirty eight
(54:28):
and oh yeah, imagine knowing that a person got killed
and then driving by that spot and seeing a giant
bloodstain every day until it raindo went away.
Speaker 3 (54:37):
I feel like it's probably the same crew they call
when there's animals on the road because they because they
have all the equipment to pick up the I mean
like in that case that she's talking about, they're not
going to leave pieces of the human there because that
would go to the medical examiner's office. But the same thing,
like let's say, for example, a person got hit by
(55:01):
an e bike right so hard that like their leg
flew off. The medical examiner is gonna take the dead
body and they're gonna go and pick up the leg
and put the leg in a body bag too, and
bring it all together to keep the body there. But
it's not the medical examiner's job to clean up the
blood off the sidewalk, so somebody like and.
Speaker 4 (55:22):
Those aren't always perfect because you know, we have stories
where people get by trains and like a child will
come across their like nose in a field or something
next to me.
Speaker 3 (55:29):
Yeah, but that's but that's just because they didn't find it.
Like I said, like people go and clean it up.
But I mean, when you're getting hit by a train
that's going super fast that you're in the force of
it blows your body up, like a piece can fly
one hundred feet away, you know, like and they just
might not find it in the media area, which is
what happened in that case.
Speaker 4 (55:50):
Well, sorry that happened to you, thankfully the gun jam.
I know that's scary for your dad, jeez, I know
it's horrible. Well, guys, if you have wild stories for
us or any questions, please email them to stories at
Mothernosdeath dot com and don't forget to head over to Appler, Spotify,
leave us a review, and subscribe to our YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
Say you guys, have.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
A good weekend. Thank you for listening to Mother Nos Death.
As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.
I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without
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the assistance of a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website,
and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform
people based on my experience working in pathology, so they
can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.
Always remember that science is changing every day and the
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opinions expressed in this episode are based on my knowledge
of those subjects at the time of publication. If you
are having a medical problem, have a medical question, or
having a medical emergency, please contact your physician or visit
an urgent care center, emergency room or hospital. Please rate, review,
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