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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have so many
great stories for you today. We are going to get
into the politically motivated murders that happened in Minnesota this weekend,
the viral video that's going around showing the plane crash
in India, and the survivor. We'll talk about that because
I'm a little suss of that. One of Prince William's
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best friends was killed in a freak incident involving a beasting,
a story local to us that involved hitting cameras in bathrooms,
what it's like to have a painful vagina, potential exposures
while writing, public transportation, and an update on a story
we reported last month of a woman who was forced
to keep her dead daughter on life support because she
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was pregnant. All that and more on today's episode. It
is a lot. Let's get started with this beasting story.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Okay, so, longtime friend of Prince William's son, Jay Kapor,
he was playing polo last week when suddenly he shouted,
I swallowed something. It turns out that he swallowed a bee,
which subsequently stung him inside.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Of his mouth and caused him to die.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So he had an anaphylactic reaction. I think that I
don't necessarily know if he swallowed it or if it
just went in his mouth and stung him, but regardless,
it caused this chemical chain reaction inside his body that
causes you to have this instantaneous swelling. And when he
was saying that he felt something in his throat that
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he thought he swallowed something, it was perhaps more of
a feeling of a foreign body sensation almost because of
his throat swelling up so quickly that he thought something
was kind of stuck in there, like that's how fast
it happens. So it sucks that no one there really
realized what was happening and didn't have an EpiPen on
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them out of all those people, because this isn't something
that you have to die from, but even sometimes people
have such a bad reaction that they don't survive it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It's just so scary to think about.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I mean, what a freak thing that you're doing something
you do all the time and then a bug just
happens to fly in your mouth. I mean, it probably
just happened so quick he couldn't even fully register what happened.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, this
is not the first time he's had a serious reaction
to a beasting. Okay, they don't usually present like you're
totally fine your entire life, and then all of a
sudden you get this severe reaction. Not saying that it's
not possible, I'm just saying that it's not likely. Is
it possible though, because he was possibly stung in the
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throat that it caused swelling in general, that maybe was
not an allergic reaction to the beasting that caused his
caused him to die, Like.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, I mean that's possible.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I think it would cause a little bit of a
different presentation because anaphylaxis is not just the throat closing up,
but other things happened too, like there's a sharp decline
in blood pressure, like obviously the air narrows and things
like that. But I'm not really sure exactly if that
would cause a person to die because the swelling. Again, normally,
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if you get stung by a bee, I'm not sure
if you don't have any kind of allergy to it,
that the swelling would be that intense. So I really
think that it has to do with him having this
reaction that is typical in people that get stung by
a bee, which is anaphylaxis.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
All right, well, let's move on to the events of
last week. So this man went to the home of
several Minnesota politicians in the middle of the night, disguised
as a police officer with the intent to kill them.
So let's go over this disguise, because this is one
of the craziest things I've seen in these modern true
crime cases.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, I see.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
The thing is is that you're saying that it's crazy,
but I've been seeing this all over social media, of
these videos of regular people putting on these things.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
That's interesting you say that, because when I was reading
this story, I've obviously seen we're gonna get into this
mask he was wearing. I've seen them at the Halloween
store and been thinking what a horrible idea they could be.
But I don't feel like I've necessarily seen it used
in a crime, especially on this eye profile of a crime.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, I think this is probably a little bit more
sophisticated than a Halloween mask. But you see these videos.
There's two different ones. So there's the silicone mask that
goes around that when somebody puts it on, you legitimately
cannot tell if you don't know the person and they're
walking and they're kind of not standing right on top
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of you and they're wearing sunglasses, especially because that's where
it looks the weirdest is around the eyes. It's like
creepy that. And the people in these social media videos
look completely different from the mask they're putting on. Sometimes
it's like a white person versus a black person, like
totally different, crazy things that you wouldn't really be able
to tell unless you were really like looking.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Up on them.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It's just it's so scary. There's another one too. This
guy makes these ones that are like the fabric ones
that you put over your face. They're almost made out
of a material of like, well, I've seen those or something,
and they don't look as good because like there's a
guy that does it all the time and he put
one on with like twer Swift's face on it, right,
and it's like he put his hoodie up over it,
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and it's like he kind of looks like her a
little bit, but it's like the shape of his skull
is making it not look exactly like her. But the
silicone ones like this dude was wearing. I've been thinking
about this forever, like, Okay, when's somebody gonna use one
of those to do something bad?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Because clearly, well.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
They're like, hwhy would level special effects makeup?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Exactly, And I guess I guess the scary thing is
is that he so he went to the first people's house, right,
he went there, and is that where the video was
taken from or we don't know exactly whose house that
was taken. Well, let's backtrack a little bit. So he
was disguised as a police officer.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
He was driving a black SUV with emergency lights and
a license plate that said police. He was carrying a
nine millimeter gun, wearing a black tactical vest, and then
he was wearing the silicone mask to hide his identity.
So then he ends up going to John Hoffman's house,
who's a senator with his wife. He's talking to them
at the door. It's the middle of the night. They're
probably disoriented because they had been asleep. Then they realized
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this guy is wearing a silicone mask. They try to
push him out of the house, and as they're doing this,
he ends up shooting them. Then proceeds to the next
victim's house.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So this is where the story gets really crazy. So
the officers were like, Okay, this guy is a lawmaker
and he got shot. Like, let's just go to a
fellow lawmaker's house that wasn't too far away, who was
Minnesota House of Representatives Melissa Hortman. The cops were like,
let's just go there and check this out and make
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sure that that she's okay and her family's okay. So
the officers arrive and they see that a cop car
is already there, and they end up getting in an
altercation with this guy that's pretending to be a cop
that starts shooting at them and he flees into their house.
So he somehow gets into their house, goes in and
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kills her Melissa Hortman and her husband. Now I have
so many questions about this, like how do cops show
up at a scene and think it's an officer when
it was a fake It was a fake cop car,
like someone was saying it said police on the license plate,
Like I don't know if it mimicked the police officer's
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vehicle exactly, that they weren't able to tell that it
wasn't theirs. I mean, like, aren't they communicating and stuff
to say, Oh, Officer so and so is already here. Yeah,
but if this event is happening and they're scrambling, they
might have just for I mean, this could have gone
down in less than sixty seconds. Where they pull up
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to the scene. They're just like, I'm not sure what's
really happening for a second and then it just yeah.
But if they're going like, oh, we're gonna check out
this Minnesota House of Representatives person, right, aren't they talking
over the radio saying we're going to go here and
they know what they thought? He was there yet, not
necessarily because there could have been, in theory, another patrolman
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that got there before they did, a couple seconds before,
but they I feel like that's something that they should know.
This is like the whole point of them talking on
the radio, so like stuff doesn't happen by accident. They
have to say where they're at. I would that, but like,
two people are dead now, and I'm curious, like how
he even got into the house unless the couple had
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opened the door because they saw all the police activity
going on.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I mean, when you see a police just start at
the door. I think most people are going to open
it because hey, you're curious what's going on. And it's
like him doing this in the middle of the night
was intentional because people are not at full attention, right,
so you're confused. You don't know what's happening. You're in
a political scenario. You don't know what's going on. A
cops at your door. I mean, the mask is sophisticated.
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You can't necessarily tell unless you're kind of up closed
that it's not that person's real skin.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I don't see.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Well, this is the thing when you look, when you
look at the video from the from the doorbell, it's
very obvious that the dy But if you look, you're
not thinking high night, Yeah exactly, and in hindsight like, yes,
we're looking and we're like, oh my god, that's so freaky.
But like you're saying, like if you wake up at
three o'clock in the morning and you're woken up out
of your sleep and you just look really quick, even
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if it's on your phone whatever, like I I know,
I don't have my glasses on. Ever, you look and
you're just like, oh, the cops are here for some reason,
Like you're just not thinking that somebody's wearing a freakin
mask on your front porch dress as a cop trying
to get into your house.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I mean, back to your.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Point about the communication, I think this attack just seemed
really elevated. He had every element tied down where it
wasn't that obvious upfront. I mean, especially to the people
that were woken up in the middle of the night,
but especially like he certainly tricked the cops, even if
it was only for thirty seconds, long enough to be
able to go through their house and then eventually hide
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in the woods and become this manhunt that was apparently
the biggest manhunt in Minnesota state history, which is kind
of nuts to think about. But luckily, after two days
they were able to get him and he's in custody.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Now, yeah, I can't I can't believe that he was
on the run like that for so many days and
it and now, like, I mean, it just happened a
few days ago, So it's like we don't know that
many details, but certain details, like I want to know
how much planning went into this, because apparently in the
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car they found the hit list with a bunch of
names on it, and there were notes written about what their.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
House looked like.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So this guy was like stalking them for days.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Apparently this was probably this planning was probably more than days.
I'm sure it was going on for takeing a year
or more. But then there's other shady stuff too. So
the guy allegedly texted his wife and said, words are
not going to explain how sorry I am for this situation.
There's going to be some people coming to the house
armed and trigger happy, and I don't want you guys around.
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And he also texted his family and said dad went
to war last night. I don't want to say more
because I don't want to implicate anybody. So so like
he was communicating with his family in that way. But
then this was the weird part. When they searched his
wife's car, they found two handguns, ten thousand dollars in cash,
and passports for his wife and her children.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, I mean, he could have put that stuff there.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I'm not saying she's totally innocent in all of this,
but he easily could have put that stuff there and
was like just getting the car and go.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
But a normal person would not listen like he could have.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
But like, I'm sorry if you're putting ten grand in
someone's car, you're gonna tell them it's there?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Are you gonna tell them you're about to go murder
a bunch of people? Like I don't think so. So
I think he had this really well planned.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
If anybody, if Gabe.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Called me and was like, hey, just to let you know,
there's two guns, ten thousand dollars of cash, and all
your passports are in the car, like that, would I'd
be like, okay, honey, I'll see it for dinner.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I highly doubt that's the order of operations that went down,
Like he probably murdered them and ten grand in somebody's
car and like whatever I refused, I don't know. I mean,
she very well could have been invited.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I totally believe that he had that set up because
if she had the run, like she would be able
to get out of the guns.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I'm saying he set it up like she might have
not known that was there, and then he was planning
to shoot her a text and be like no, we're
taking care of just getting the car and go.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Absolutely not. There's way more to this story. I just
don't buy you. Like, even like I understand that this
guy's a crazy person. But like, nobody just leaves ten
grand in a car without that's that's like what if
somebody broke into the car or something.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I think that since that's your takeaway, that's ridiculous of
all the details in the story, because I'm right, it's
gonna come back because listen, like you just have to
think about how people normally behave.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And I understand, like obviously normally people don't put on
masks and go and kill people and execute them or whatever.
But but still it's just like, there's there's shadiness going
on here. And the fact that he said to his kids,
like I went to war means that they've been talking
about something that he went to war for me, they
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would know what that meant.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Maybe he was extreme with his ideologies and was talking
about them in the comfort of his home, and they're
just kind of like, ah, that's my crazy dad. But
I don't think you really think your parent's gonna go
forward and execute these actions they speak of.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's nuts.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, I can't wait to hear more because it's it's
a little sheep.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, Like, I don't think we're gonna get the full
picture until we start seeing interviews with the family but
and seeing how they're responding.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
To it in jail because they're they're accomplices maybe anyway,
all right, all right, so speaking of other things that
are just like I'm becoming like a huge conspiracy theory
over every single thing that's reported because I just don't
trust anything. But that, let's talk about this plane crash.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Twenty twenty five has really become in the year of
the plane crash, because there's just been like such a
crazy amount of them and we're only six months into
the year so far. So yeah, but I think that
if you I think that a lot of people say that,
but then when you look, it's like the numbers are
just kind of where they always are. Two commercial airliner
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disasters in six months, I feel like that's not common.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
The one in India though, it's just I don't know,
it's like it doesn't it doesn't count for our count
right for what anyway.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's not America, for America, Yeah, exactly about American commercial
airline disasters of talking about all over the world have whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
There there's always there's always airline crashes. What I just
I'm like that I killed two hundred and forty one people.
I mean, this this one's this one is insane, and
the story's insane, and it gets even weirder.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
So a Boeing seven eighty seven Dreamliner was heading from
London to m Debad, India, or heading from m Debad
to London, and shortly after takeoff crash in the dorm
rooms of a local medical school. So it's unclear how
many were killed on the ground. But as I said earlier,
two hundred and forty one people were on board. I
guess where your conspiracy theory has coming in is that
two hundred and forty two people were on board, but
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one person miraculously survived.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
So what's your theory? All right?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Like, let me just say this that you and you
guys could argue with me all you want and take
I just don't take anything by its word anymore. This
airplane had twenty six thousand gallons of jet fuel in it.
It just took off a second before, right, It's a
lot of fuel to put in a fire. Any airplane
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fire or airplane accident causes terrible blunt trauma as well
as people burning to death and just terrible burns, amputations,
crush injuries, just terrible evidence of a plane crash. Okay,
so that's and not that people haven't survived. They have,
but we're just putting it out there that there was
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a lot of fuel on this fire. Then they showed
this video that I don't know. Did you see the
video that's been going around of the survivor coming out
of the out of the debris.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I saw an animation of I saw an animation that
I'm not accepting of a person no jumping out midair.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
But no, so he didn't jump out mid air.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I don't know why people are saying that, because that's
that's not what happens exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
So this video is going around.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Now of actual footage of people filming this big ball
of fire over this medical school dorm room, and all
of a sudden, this guy just comes out of this
ball of fire, wearing a white T shirt and like
texting or talking on his phone. He just walks right
out of this ball of fire. He barely has any
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soot on his shirt. He's wearing a white T shirt
that looks white from when you're looking at it. You
would think if someone's coming out of a ball of fire,
they would be covered in like soot from the smoke,
and they would be beat up and their shirt would
be ripped and there would be blood and there would
be coughing because there's so much smoke around, right, because
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this is what happens when you're in a fire, not
to mention, like an inferno like this. And the guy's
just like on his phone and like, listen, I understand
that he could be in shock if this is true
or whatever, but you would expect to see the other things.
And when people don't die from getting burned or from
a traumatic injury in a plane crash, it's due to
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the smoke in aalation, all right. So you're so like
he would I would think that he would be. Did
you ever like see somebody come out of a fire
like that? It's just it's just weird to me, Like
it just doesn't sit right.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
With So you think he wasn't on the plane. He
just happened to be on the ground and then said
he was on the plane.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I don't know, I don't know. I don't know who
it is or what it is.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I just like, listen, this is just my this is
just my conspiracy theory that something don't seem right about it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
This is his story, but he says he doesn't remember
a lot that the plane because it didn't have The
plane crashed, and then before it caught on fire, the
emergency door had been bent and he was able to
it was broken, and he happened to be sitting and
see eleven A, which is right next to the emergency door,
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and because it had been broken from the crash, he
was able to get out seconds for it exploded.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
So that's his story. But I don't know even though
though if it exploded in close proximity to where he was,
Like the angle of this camera is like he's walking
out of a plume of an atomic bomb, looking like
smoke and stuff, and you're just like, h okay, dude,
I don't know. His shirt is white, Okay, but it's
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just weird. I'm just saying, you can't neglect.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
To tell this other story of another plane crash survivor
from nineteen ninety eight that also was sitting in seat eleven.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
That one's also a lie. They're just trying to get
people to buy that seat. No, so they're gonna charge
more money for that.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Seat in that case.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
In nineteen ninety eight, there was a horrific plane crash
in Thailand which killed over one hundred people. Forty five
people survived, which were primarily people sitting towards the front
of the plane. But one of those survivors was sitting
in the same seat eleven A. So of course, now
that seat is the most valuable seat in airline history.
Right now, you are not going to be able to
sit there unless you pay a premium. The probability though,
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in the other case is like forty five people's by okay,
Like it's a little bit it's a little bit more probable, Like, okay,
this is this is like a one to two hundred
and eighty ratio, and I know, you know, it's just
a little.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Bit different, just pointing.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I understand your conspiracy behind it, right, But they knew
pretty quickly that he was sitting in that seat number
So like, how would he have known that before? I mean,
let's say he was a person on the ground that
just so happened to be at the site of the
plane crash, how would he have had information to know
that eleven A was the seat on that exact flight
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with the emergency exit door. Because it's not the same
row on every single plane, I.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Don't know, well it is when you book it, though,
you know where, and can't they find his name on
the ticket? They need to find his DNA and confirm.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I just like there's something that's just a little I
feel like it's gonna be easily.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
They're gonna see his name on the plane ticket or not.
But how do you know that's him?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I don't know, Like people have gone on fake with
fake ideas before whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I just don't you heard it here first? What listen?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I I'm just I'm just saying like it totally can
be cool and like, congratulations, dude.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I just like.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
If you saw somebody coming out of a swimming pool
that had dry clothes on, you would be like, they
weren't just in the swimming pool right.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Actually, in my chemistry class, there is this chemical I
don't know what it is right now, this powder that
you could put in liquid that when you put your
finger in it's wet and when you pull it out
it's completely dry. Obviously unlikely that situation, but it is
possible in some scenarios.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Unlikely, but there are things that exist. Let's move on to.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
These hidden cameras at the Ocean City boardwalk. Shocker, it's
the ones we always go into.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, well, we went there on Father's Day, you know,
down the shore, and I went in the bathroom with
the girls. I always go in there with them with them,
Like there it was all three of the bathrooms. They
found them, and I was just messing with them, saying
like yeah, that this happened. Like they kids can't believe
it either, but I'm thinking, all that's there are people
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going in the bathroom, especially with kids, and what perver
is doing this?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Like what are they looking for?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
So that's how they were found because some girl was
in there with her friend and her friend's kids and
they were getting changed to go on the beach. So
she sees this like pen hanging out by the trash can,
which is obviously weird in a bathroom. So then she
goes to investigate it and notices there's this blue blinking
light on it. Then she sees a lens with a
little slide that would be on like a webcam or something.
So she opens the pen up and then there's an
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SD card in there, so of course she had to
call the cops. Then they get this pen, and.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I think that's actually really cool that she did that.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, I do too, because because.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Let me tell you like I keep because obviously, like
this scenario could have happened with us, because we go
in those bathrooms all the time, and I'm thinking like,
if I saw something like that, I would probably just
ignore it.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Well, like honestly, like I would.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I would just be like, oh, someone left something in here,
because I you know, like sometimes if you see someone's
phone in the bathroom, I don't take it out because
I'm like, oh, if the person lost something, like they're
gonna remember and come back here instead of you know,
you give it to the cops or something, they might
not ever find it again.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
But if you saw it ever that was a blatantly
obvious camera, you would just leave it.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
But that thing, like I saw it, it doesn't look
like a blatantly obvious camera to me, Like she picked
it up and inspected it. That's what I'm saying. Like, first,
I wouldn't have picked it up off off the trash
canon there because it's skiv Like it's gross, you know,
Like I just seeing it across the room, I'd be
like maybe I don't know what I would do, but
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I I'm more like, oh, I would just like leave
it there, unless it was an obvious camera.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
But then after she turned it in, they found more
cameras and other bathrooms along the sideway.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, all the way up the boardwalk. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
So you're like, that's awesome. And then I'm thinking, did
the police have to go through all the footage and
then try to contact everybody that was.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Recorded in them?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
How would you even figure that out?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So how does it work that little card they could
just pull out and look at the footage?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, I mean I would be surprised if it was
elevated technology that was going back to some like home
based system, because it's just this like pen thing. I
just would be confused. I would be surprised if it
was going back to some sort of like monitoring system
on a computer.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
That's what I was thinking that it was. I mean,
I don't really know how that stuff works. I was
thinking that it was going like someone was watching it live.
That's not possible.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I would say, based on the level of the device,
that the person probably planted them, turned it on and
then was planning to go back and retrieve them to
get the recordings off of the card.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
So if the.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Police, well and and like maybe they have been doing that,
and well exactly so if the police have the SD card,
they could see exactly when they started recording, and then
they're gonna have to analyze the security cameras to see
who was going in those bathrooms at that time. So
the cops have to look at videos of people going
(25:22):
to the bathroom and like, I don't yeah, because.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
They'll probably be able to see if the guy had
to turn it on before he left the bathroom, then
they'll probably see parts of him exiting the room, right
because he's in the stall.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, because I was wondering that. I was thinking like
that they should be able to find him easily if
it was connected to some kind of device, But I
guess that might be a little bit more difficult if
there's no it's possible. I just fingerprints and that girl
was hold the girl that called the cops was like
holding it and I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Like, no, your fingerprints are getting all over it too. Now.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, I mean, anything's possible, but I would be attually
surprised if that happened. If it was going back to
some like home based type of situation, I would say
he planted them and was going to retrieve them and
then download the information.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I wonder if it's just like a dumb kid. I
hope it is. Honestly, I don't know. This seem like
a teenage.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
This seems pretty calculated, so I would be surprised if
it was like a teenager being dumb.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I just hope it is, because I it's just like
so disturbing to think about it.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
But it's like, obviously you're taking videos of girls changing
and everything, but then you're obviously having videos of people
like shitting.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's a very fee That's well, that's what I did
when I went in the bathroom, like I was just
messing with the kids, and I was like, like I
was doing all this stuff, like, oh, for on camera,
They're going to turn it off because it's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, it's just like, yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's it's just it's just like really not cool. This
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to sign up. All right, So this woman went on
TikTok and starts explaining how she was convinced she didn't
have a vaginal hole because she had tried using tampons
in her teens and having sex several times but was
never successful. And then she watched the show Sex Education
in her one of the characters talking about a condition
that was similar to her own. You could go ahead
(27:49):
and say this, because there's no way, I'm pretty it's
a very it's a very weird.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
One of these weird medical words called imagine is miss
came up with this word. I I don't though, but
it's a condition where the vagina suddenly tightens up. So
they don't know exactly what causes it, but it could
be all It could be for psychological reasons, or it
could be for sexual anxiety disorders like history of rape
(28:15):
or any kind of trauma like that that you your
vaginal opening kind of like tightens up in tenses up
to the point where sometimes you can't wear tampons, but
also you have difficulty having sex and things like that.
So she's had this condition her whole life. And it's
crazy because she went to the doctor and said, hey,
I saw this condition on this show, and is this
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what I have? And the doctor was like, yeah, you
do have it, and she was getting so a lot
of times they want you to go do physical therapy
for it to strengthen the keegol muscles and to kind
of loosen things up around there, and but then COVID
happened and she kind of had a set back there.
So she said that she ended up buying these dilators
(28:57):
off of online. She bought diladers and vaginal diladers, like
think about I don't know, think about a dildo, That's
what it's.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Kind of like.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But they start really small and thin, like a pencil,
and then they move their way up to the the
size of like a penis, let's say.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And you.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Slowly start with the smaller one and you kind of
stretch it out until you can gradually get up to
the bigger one. And she was saying in this article
that she was a virgin because she not really by choice,
she didn't want to be, but she was just so
scared to have sex. So she finally did get married
and was able to have sex and stretch it out
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down there. But it's cool that she's talking about it
because there's people that go through it all the time
and don't speak about it.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
So, yeah, especially a condition like this that's like, is
this considered something rare because I haven't heard of this before,
But I guess if you're going through something like this,
it's really scary and it's nice to hear somebody else's
experience and maybe help you identify it. She was able
to through hearing it on a show. Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Rare, but it happens and people have it, and like
shows like that always want to show you the most
rare things. It's it's just like my Instagram or the
Grosser Room, Like I show you the craziest stuff that
barely happens to anyone sometimes, you know, but that makes
it the most interesting, right, But yeah, it's it's it's
a really it's a really interesting condition honestly, And it's
(30:27):
another interesting thing is just like the thought of physical
therapy for for your vadge. Well, like it's just a
very you know, unusual thing to feel like, you know,
you don't want to go to the gynecologist anyway, and
to think that you're going there to like work out
your vagina with somebody is just a little uncomfortable, right.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Well, I actually go to pelvic for therapy after my
endivitriosis surgery, and it is I guess the first appointment
is very awkward because I knew going into it that
they like stick their fingers or hands in your vagina
to like to stretch your muscles and see where you know,
you have tension and stuff. So I was prepared, but
I've heard stories of people being totally in shock that
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that's what goes down there.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But did you did the place you go to is specialize,
is that?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
So all they do is badge therapy.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Well it's not like it's not all internal. So a
lot of the stretches I do are breeding exercises where
I have to like lay anserin positions and breathe and
like focus my breadths going like down in that area
to strengthen it. And then I have other like because
my surgery was in my abdomen, they we do it
like this rolling.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
On my It's like on YouTube, you can see it.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
You literally take your fingers and like roll down your
skin to like loosen the tension there.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
But I'm I'm actually really curious about this if obviously
some of you who are listening, No, I'm just curious
about the education for these people. Is it an actual
physical therapist that specializes in pulvic floor muscles or is
it a different education. I'm just curious about that.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
So I believe the woman in charge it where I'm
going as a doctor, and then they have physical therapists
working there that just specialize in this particular area. But
it could be different per practice, but they typically work
with people that are pregnant or postpartum, or older women
that are having like prolapse issues or.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
People like that.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
No, it's like a place that has multiple employees. It's
it's funny because, like you again, you never hear this,
and you're like, there has to be some kind of
market for it if they have a bunch of people
working there doing.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Oh, and it's popping there.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Like I had an appointment tomorrow morning and I had
to reschedule it because I can't go.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And the next available appointment was in three weeks. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I'm like, she's going to try to go with me,
see how this goes down, But we have to draw
the line somewhere.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I am just curious. I don't want to be in
your appointment. I'm just curious about the training that goes
into that.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, it's interesting, And at first I was like, why
am I here? But then afterwards and after doing the stretches,
there is a noticeable difference in how I feel.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Maybe people have good experiences are bad, But I think
in a case like this, chick gets helpful obviously, because
what else is she gonna do. They're going to force
something in there when she could like ease into it
and have a nice experience and turn her whole attitude
around about having sex.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I just think it's it's just an I think about
this with gynecology too. It's just like a really interesting thing.
Like people ask me all the time, for example, like
how'd you get into this and stuff? And I guess
it's very unusual for people to have a job where
they're touching dead people, but I think it's more unusual
to have a job where you're just like arms up
in a badge all day, Like, how did you get
(33:43):
into that? How does this interest you?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
How?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Like, I don't know, it's just crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I mean at first, it's like really awkward because you're
laying on a table.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
It's believe me.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It's like, but who's it awkward for the person to
doing it or.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Now because you're just like sitting there. But if you're
just like talking, it's fun whatever. But if you're just
sitting there in silence while it's happening, it's kind of
like awkward a little bit, But I mean it it's help.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
They give you the little sunglasses like they do at
the dentist, so you don't have to make icons.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
No no. It's nice though, because they also focused. I
noticed this check and her TikTok was explaining that their
first couple of appointments, she it was a lot of
emotional stuff. So they'll like talk you through like what
you're going through and how it's affected you. So it's
like a mixture of mental health and physical therapy treatment.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Okay, This new story is New Fear Unlocked. There's these
street cars in Toronto, which for us is basically like
a train that runs along the street instead of in
tunnels and stuff. But last week this person was on
it with their friend and they noticed an open syringe
sticking out from underneath of the seat next to where
her friend was sitting.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I mean the way that it's sitting there, anybody
could have easily sat on it, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I was looking at it, and like the plunger was
all the way down, so at least there was no
liquid of any sort in it. But I mean, it's
an open syringe. It appears to be used. You don't
know what's like on the edge of the needle, which
is disgusting. How disturbing would it be if you just
sat down on the train and got poked by something
like that.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Well, this is a good story though, because this is
something that people should know about because there's IVY drug
users all around, right, and that's I mean, we have
to assume this is from an IVY drug user. It
could be from a diabetic to our but like who
uses their medication on the train just sitting there and
like would leave the needle there that it's more than
(35:34):
likely an IVY drug user. And with an iv drug user,
there's just so much of a higher chance of it
being infectious because sometimes they share needles, and that it
could have hepsi, hive, any kind of bacteria on it,
So you could come into a situation where you accidentally
step on one or sit on one in this case,
(35:54):
and as soon as you do something like that, you
need to go get it checked out right away.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I mean, I would also agree with you that it's
probably a drug user, because I think most diabetics anymore.
I mean, there's definitely some people still using traditional surreins
with syringes with vials. But I'm thinking about my in
laws who are both diabetic, and they have the pens now,
and this didn't seem like it was dropped. It was
intentionally placed underneath the seat, perhaps for somebody to go
(36:22):
back and get for later use.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that about that,
but you should go to especially a lot of times
when people get an injury like this, their first thought
is to like run in the house and like pour
bleach on their hand or something. And that's the worst
thing that you could do, actually, because any kind of
antiseptic can break down the skin around the puncture wound,
(36:44):
so the really you should just wash it with soap
and water and like let it run under the water
for like ten minutes and just really you should squeeze
the area and try to just like get it as
clean as possible and then go to the hospital because
they can give you post exposure prophylactics, which are anti
retroviral medications like to prevent you from getting an HIV infection.
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It's not really going to help with hepatitis. A lot
of times people like, like you're not vaccinated for hepatitis B,
probably I don't know, usual like that's that's like something
that healthcare workers. I am just because I worked in
the hospital, but like there's certain viruses that you could get,
and it's just terrible if you have an exposure like that,
and the at least in the hospital most of the time,
(37:31):
like if I get caught on an autop sero surgical specimen,
like the person's in the hospital and I could get
their blood and see if they have any kind of
infectious diseases, Whereas like if you just find a rando
on the street and get stuck with it, then then
you don't even know if the person's carrying anything that
you should be worried about. So if you ever have
something like that happen, I mean, listen, Like, the chance
(37:55):
of getting anything in this situation is low in my opinion,
because it would go into your butt fat or your
butt muscle, like if it didn't go directly into your
bloodstream it and it's sitting there.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Well, it was like under the seat, So I would
say it would probably most likely pinch you in your
thigh or your calf because of where it was underneath
of the seat. Yeah, but I mean it, but it's
not going into your vein. No, but but still and
there's no visible blood on the needles, so like there's
just different things like that. But still like stranger things
have happened, so you should always get that checked out
(38:31):
out And it's just disgusting.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
It is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
But remember one time we found well that was near
your house that we found that whole entire like jar
of needles.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, in the your house bush. I have this like
bush in my front yard on the corner. And this
person is weird.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
There we were like doing lawn work and my husband
pulls out this gatoride bottle filled with syringes and we
were just like what the fuck, Like it is it is.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Like a random location.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
And like when Lucia was taking shots for her autoimmune thing,
I would put the needles into like a like a
water bottle or something like that, so they because we
didn't always have the the sharps container. But yeah, but
then you would throw them out, like you don't put it.
You don't just like leave it on the can't even
(39:22):
somebody put your trash like somebody somebody like yeah, somebody
placed it there. It's just not you could think like
maybe someone's trash can spilled over or something, but that's
not anywhere near where anybody would even put trash can
to the curb. So it's just like really bizarre that
it was there.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
All right, So we have an update about the pregnant
Georgia woman who has declared brain dead and kept on
life support because she was pregnant, and she has been
there since February and now her baby has finally been
delivered via c section on Friday, and now they're planning
to take her off of life support.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, so the baby they wanted to keep her. I
guess she was eight or nine, somewhere in between eight
and nine pregnant when she when she had this incident
where she was declared brain dead and they were they said, okay,
that she she's going to die, and then they made
her mother keep her alive because she was pregnant, which
is kind of outrageous, but they said that they wanted
(40:18):
to keep her pregnant until she was thirty two weeks,
so she had this so the baby had the best
chance of survival, and they delivered her this week at
twenty five weeks, which.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Is really really really early. Yeah, he was less than
two pounds.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, so the chance of survival though, is pretty good,
like seventy eighty percent in twenty five weeks. We actually
know someone that was born at twenty five weeks and
he's like fifty years old.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
So if he.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Survived, he's a doctor actually too. It was like, is
it he's a little off. He's a little off, but no,
he's one of my friends. But yeah, he he lived
at that time. I mean, it's such a tiny little baby.
But so now, like Maria said, they're going to take
the mom. I think they said they were taking her
(41:05):
off today. Actually, what an emotional roller coaster for this
poor mom to go on and you want to hear
I don't know if you heard this sad part of
the story too. She has a seven year old little
boy that the mom that that her mother has said
that the kid thinks that the that his mom's sleeping
and doesn't even know about the baby.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
That's horrible.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
So like it's horrible. It's so horrible for her because
not only when you say that, you speaking about the
woman the grandmother. Yeah, the woman who's in the who's
on life supports mother. Like, think about the ship she's
gone through in the past couple of months of like
getting that call that your daughter's been that your daughter
(41:46):
is hurt and may not survive, and then being told, Okay,
your daughter's definitely not going to survive, and then have
and then being told you can't take her off life
support because she's pregnant. Sitting there and just watching her
just like dead. She's dead on machines for months and
months and months just incubating this baby. And now the
baby you know. So now it's like the baby's born.
(42:07):
She's gonna love the baby, obviously, but the baby's in
the nick you now for for months. The baby will
be in the nick you to get their lungs more
mature and things like that. But then having the grandson
at home, who now she has to tell that his
mom's dead, and oh and you have a sibling now too. Like,
(42:27):
it's just a lot and I don't know what the
right thing to do is with with a little kid
like that that's seven, like they just don't understand.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Well, I mean, it is horrible.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
It's so horrible though, but a kid that's seven is
also like kind of hip and those you know, you
think that they don't really know what's going on, but
they know what's going on, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
I have to tell the kid, I mean it, it's
unfortunate because of how young he is. I feel like
he'll be able to heal a little better than if
he was older and fully understood what was going Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Just like it's just like such a crazy and really
like the mom. The mom is feeling the brunt of
all of this, you know, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Feel terrible for her.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
All right, let's move on to questions of the day.
Every Friday at the AP mother knows that the Instagram
account you guys had head over to our story and
ask whatever you want. First, how can they tell from
just the skeleton that a woman has given birth? So
in the past, they would say that these partuition scars
which are on the pelvis were indicative of a woman
(43:27):
who has given birth, and now they're saying that they
don't really know if that's one hundred percent true. And
the reason why this is so important is because sometimes
if they find a skeleton in the woods, for example,
they're going to look at it and they'll be able
to estimate, Okay, this was a woman of child bearing
age and it looks like she had a kid. They
(43:47):
would say, you know, stuff like that, so you could
kind of narrow down who this person is. And now
they're saying that these might be some kind of scars
that are almost like think about like a stretch mark
that would occur and it to do with the pelvis growing.
So usually they are found in women because the most
common thing that happens in women is childbirth that causes
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the pelvis to grow and to stretch. But they've also
been seen in men too, so that kind of pushes
it out that that is there. So it might be
consistent with a person that has had childbirth or at
least has been pregnant. But now they're saying that that's
not a true telltale sign that that's the case all
(44:29):
right too. If somebody dies smiling, does their corpse stay
smiling or does the muscle relax? No, it doesn't stay smiling.
So if you think about when you smile, it's like
something in your brain is making you happy and it's
sending messages to your mouth muscles around your mouth that smile. Okay,
(44:50):
so then you smile and then that sends messages back
to your brain that's like, oh, that feels good, and
you continue to smile. Right, But when you're dead, all
of those signals turn off, so that doesn't happen anymore.
And when you talk about rigor mortis, which is post
mortem muscle stiffening, that doesn't even start until about a
(45:12):
half hour after death. But it really takes a couple
hours for that to fully kick in anyway, And that
really has nothing to do with it either. So to
answer your question, no, that usually when a person dies,
their muscles are very floppy. And you ever talk about
like picking up someone that's dead weight, like they can't
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hold you know, it's literally dead weight. So they're very
floppy and they don't start to stiffen for hours afterwards.
Speaking of public floor therapy. My last appointment, there was
like a dead deer in front of the complex that
was laying there, and you know, it was off to
the side, it was on the sidewalk. I just drove
from the driveway.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
So I'm in the waiting room and this crazy old
lady comes in and starts telling the receptionist, I have
a job for you, and then she starts complaining about
this dead deer. Mind you, there are fifty businesses in
this complex, Like this is this lady's personal job to
get this deer move.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Also, it was on the side.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
I mean this thing you know when deers are dead
and they're.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Like truly yeah, full on rigor. Also yeah, also like
when they start to decompose and they blow it. Also
just kind of it's like a float.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
It looks like a stuff fan like fills it up
with air. So she's going on this whole tirade about
how it just got hit and it's in the middle
of the driveway, and I'm like, first of all, it's
in rigor, so it didn't just get hit minutes ago.
Second of all, it was not in the middle of
the driveway. Third, it is not their receptionist problem. I'm
trying to make eye contact with her the entire time,
like this.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Bitch is crazier.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Then she sits down starts asking me if it bothered me.
I'm like, it really didn't bother me. It was not
in the way.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
But that's just a full circle moment.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Oh boy, Anyway, last, how did you choose your daughter's names?
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Oh, well, Marie's name.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
I just liked the name Maria, so there was I
don't know, there was nothing like romantic about her name.
I just liked it, and so did my parents because
like I was a teenager, so it was just like
it worked out. We just were like, oh, that's cool.
I'm not like, I'm not crazy with the names like
some people are.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
I I feel like Maria and I were talking about
this a few weeks ago because I saw some video
about one of the Kardashians like changing the kid's name
after a year and this and that, and it's just
like I feel like that's kind of like a narcissistic quality,
like get over yourself. You're not that important, Like you
don't need to change your kid's name after a year,
Which is interesting because I'm I'm kind of a crazy
(47:44):
person when it comes to like changing things at my house.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
For example, you basically have a full year. You have
nine months to decide what the name of your kid.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Is gonna be.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
I mean, my mind is blown when people can't name
their kids when they're born. It's like you really haven't
had enough time to think this through.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
It's it is, it's it's like so weird to me,
and it's just like it's just not that big of
a deal. So yeah, So with Lilian, before Gabe and
I even like before I even got pregnant, he was
always like, oh, if I ever have a girl, I'm
naming her Lilian, after my grandmom. Like he called that
name years before I even got pregnant. So like I
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just knew if I had a girl that her name
was going to be Lilian. And then with Lucia, we
didn't have anything set because that was the only name
that we wrote that we were going to use, and
we were going to use Santino if we had a boy.
So and then we just thought Luccio was going to
be a boy because like, how could I have three
girls in a rep So since she ended up being
(48:52):
a girl, we we just wrote down like I really.
I wrote down a bunch of names and was like
like five or six names, and then me and Gabe
Maria like sat around and we're like, okay, which one
like at the top of the running for me personally
with Stella. But I also thought that there would have
been like other names that I would be fine with, because,
like I said, I just don't like I could have
(49:14):
went with.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Any of them.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
And then Maria and Gabe both picked Luccio. So that's
how it went, and I think it's it worked out
perfect for her. But she also she also could have
been a Stella too. Probably Stella is.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
A really cute name. But of course, now that she's
older and stuff, and she has like kind of a
raspy voice and she's like fuzzy and stuff, Like a
little girl named Stella with like a smoker's voice like
she had when she was really little would have been
really funny.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
She doesn't have that anymore, no, but when.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
She was really little she had the real raspy, old
lady smoker's voice and her name, which we.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Always thought, Yeah, we always thought that would have been funny.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
So yeah, so that was it.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
It was nothing. I mean, it was cool because we
all kind of picked it out. I liked it, and
then gab and Maria did too. So her middle name
she didn't have. We didn't have a middle name picked out.
And when she came out, she was really like red
and ruddy. She had some billy rubens, so she just
had like this like kind of tannish red skin color.
So we just called her Rose because it's because she
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was rosy. And that's it. Nothing, nothing too crazy, no,
but we did it. We should have called her like
Guda because she was like covered in cheese so bad
when she came out.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
We did not foresee, however, that people were going to
call her Lucia, which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Well, and that that was really like speaking of changing,
I would never change my kid's name. But the very
first time we went to the pediatrician, they they said Lucia,
and I was like, oh shit, man, I gave her
one of these names that nobody's going to know how
to pronounce. And it's always like Lucia Lucia, like nobody
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ever gets it right actually, And Gabe said, but Gabe's
name's gabriel right.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
That to me is like easy.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
People called him Gabrielle every single time in school, like
calling his name and embarrassing. I guess it's just like whatever.
So I felt kind of bad because nobody, nobody ever
gets her name right. And that continues to this day.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I mean, people call me Mariah all the time, and
I'm like, do we just with boomers in particular, they're
just too lazy to say the last so well, and
then young people always call me Mariah and I'm like,
and I just guess we're not learning how to read anymore,
you know.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
How, Like I get tripped up with the name like
like Kristin because it's like Kristin and like I have,
like I don't have that many friends, and a lot
of them have the same name Chrissy, Kristin, Christine. They're
all like kind of the same.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah. And then and it's like maybe people, yeah, like
maybe people get like that with.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Like with the Maria, Mariah, Marie, like they're all kind
of the same, you know that people can't ever.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Remember.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have so many
great stories for you today. We are going to get
into the politically motivated murders that happened in Minnesota this weekend,
the viral video that's going around showing the plane crash
in India, and the survivor. We'll talk about that because
I'm a little suss of that. One of Prince William's
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best friends was killed in a freak incident involving a beasting,
a story local to us that involved hitting cameras in bathrooms,
what it's like to have a painful vagina, potential exposures
while writing, public transportation, and an update on a story
we reported last month of a woman who was forced
to keep her dead daughter on life support because she
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was pregnant. All that and more on today's episode. It
is a lot. Let's get started with this beasting story.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Okay, so, longtime friend of Prince William's son, Jay Kapor,
he was playing polo last week when suddenly he shouted,
I swallowed something. It turns out that he swallowed a bee,
which subsequently stung him inside.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Of his mouth and caused him to die.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So he had an anaphylactic reaction. I think that I
don't necessarily know if he swallowed it or if it
just went in his mouth and stung him, but regardless,
it caused this chemical chain reaction inside his body that
causes you to have this instantaneous swelling. And when he
was saying that he felt something in his throat that
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he thought he swallowed something, it was perhaps more of
a feeling of a foreign body sensation almost because of
his throat swelling up so quickly that he thought something
was kind of stuck in there, like that's how fast
it happens. So it sucks that no one there really
realized what was happening and didn't have an EpiPen on
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them out of all those people, because this isn't something
that you have to die from, but even sometimes people
have such a bad reaction that they don't survive it.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It's just so scary to think about.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I mean, what a freak thing that you're doing something
you do all the time and then a bug just
happens to fly in your mouth. I mean, it probably
just happened so quick he couldn't even fully register what happened.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, this
is not the first time he's had a serious reaction
to a beasting. Okay, they don't usually present like you're
totally fine your entire life, and then all of a
sudden you get this severe reaction. Not saying that it's
not possible, I'm just saying that it's not likely. Is
it possible though, because he was possibly stung in the
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throat that it caused swelling in general, that maybe was
not an allergic reaction to the beasting that caused his
caused him to die, Like.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, I mean that's possible.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I think it would cause a little bit of a
different presentation because anaphylaxis is not just the throat closing up,
but other things happened too, like there's a sharp decline
in blood pressure, like obviously the air narrows and things
like that. But I'm not really sure exactly if that
would cause a person to die because the swelling. Again, normally,
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if you get stung by a bee, I'm not sure
if you don't have any kind of allergy to it,
that the swelling would be that intense. So I really
think that it has to do with him having this
reaction that is typical in people that get stung by
a bee, which is anaphylaxis.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
All right, well, let's move on to the events of
last week. So this man went to the home of
several Minnesota politicians in the middle of the night, disguised
as a police officer with the intent to kill them.
So let's go over this disguise, because this is one
of the craziest things I've seen in these modern true
crime cases.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Well, I see.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
The thing is is that you're saying that it's crazy,
but I've been seeing this all over social media, of
these videos of regular people putting on these things.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
That's interesting you say that, because when I was reading
this story, I've obviously seen we're gonna get into this
mask he was wearing. I've seen them at the Halloween
store and been thinking what a horrible idea they could be.
But I don't feel like I've necessarily seen it used
in a crime, especially on this eye profile of a crime.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, I think this is probably a little bit more
sophisticated than a Halloween mask. But you see these videos.
There's two different ones. So there's the silicone mask that
goes around that when somebody puts it on, you legitimately
cannot tell if you don't know the person and they're
walking and they're kind of not standing right on top
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of you and they're wearing sunglasses, especially because that's where
it looks the weirdest is around the eyes. It's like
creepy that. And the people in these social media videos
look completely different from the mask they're putting on. Sometimes
it's like a white person versus a black person, like
totally different, crazy things that you wouldn't really be able
to tell unless you were really like looking.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Up on them.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
It's just it's so scary. There's another one too. This
guy makes these ones that are like the fabric ones
that you put over your face. They're almost made out
of a material of like, well, I've seen those or something,
and they don't look as good because like there's a
guy that does it all the time and he put
one on with like twer Swift's face on it, right,
and it's like he put his hoodie up over it,
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and it's like he kind of looks like her a
little bit, but it's like the shape of his skull
is making it not look exactly like her. But the
silicone ones like this dude was wearing. I've been thinking
about this forever, like, Okay, when's somebody gonna use one
of those to do something bad?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Because clearly, well.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
They're like, hwhy would level special effects makeup?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Exactly, And I guess I guess the scary thing is
is that he so he went to the first people's house, right,
he went there, and is that where the video was
taken from or we don't know exactly whose house that
was taken. Well, let's backtrack a little bit. So he
was disguised as a police officer.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
He was driving a black SUV with emergency lights and
a license plate that said police. He was carrying a
nine millimeter gun, wearing a black tactical vest, and then
he was wearing the silicone mask to hide his identity.
So then he ends up going to John Hoffman's house,
who's a senator with his wife. He's talking to them
at the door. It's the middle of the night. They're
probably disoriented because they had been asleep. Then they realized
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this guy is wearing a silicone mask. They try to
push him out of the house, and as they're doing this,
he ends up shooting them. Then proceeds to the next
victim's house.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
So this is where the story gets really crazy. So
the officers were like, Okay, this guy is a lawmaker
and he got shot. Like, let's just go to a
fellow lawmaker's house that wasn't too far away, who was
Minnesota House of Representatives Melissa Hortman. The cops were like,
let's just go there and check this out and make
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sure that that she's okay and her family's okay. So
the officers arrive and they see that a cop car
is already there, and they end up getting in an
altercation with this guy that's pretending to be a cop
that starts shooting at them and he flees into their house.
So he somehow gets into their house, goes in and
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kills her Melissa Hortman and her husband. Now I have
so many questions about this, like how do cops show
up at a scene and think it's an officer when
it was a fake It was a fake cop car,
like someone was saying it said police on the license plate,
Like I don't know if it mimicked the police officer's
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vehicle exactly, that they weren't able to tell that it
wasn't theirs. I mean, like, aren't they communicating and stuff
to say, Oh, Officer so and so is already here. Yeah,
but if this event is happening and they're scrambling, they
might have just for I mean, this could have gone
down in less than sixty seconds. Where they pull up
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to the scene. They're just like, I'm not sure what's
really happening for a second and then it just yeah.
But if they're going like, oh, we're gonna check out
this Minnesota House of Representatives person, right, aren't they talking
over the radio saying we're going to go here and
they know what they thought? He was there yet, not
necessarily because there could have been, in theory, another patrolman
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that got there before they did, a couple seconds before,
but they I feel like that's something that they should know.
This is like the whole point of them talking on
the radio, so like stuff doesn't happen by accident. They
have to say where they're at. I would that, but like,
two people are dead now, and I'm curious, like how
he even got into the house unless the couple had
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opened the door because they saw all the police activity
going on.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I mean, when you see a police just start at
the door. I think most people are going to open
it because hey, you're curious what's going on. And it's
like him doing this in the middle of the night
was intentional because people are not at full attention, right,
so you're confused. You don't know what's happening. You're in
a political scenario. You don't know what's going on. A
cops at your door. I mean, the mask is sophisticated.
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You can't necessarily tell unless you're kind of up closed
that it's not that person's real skin.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I don't see.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Well, this is the thing when you look, when you
look at the video from the from the doorbell, it's
very obvious that the dy But if you look, you're
not thinking high night, Yeah exactly, and in hindsight like, yes,
we're looking and we're like, oh my god, that's so freaky.
But like you're saying, like if you wake up at
three o'clock in the morning and you're woken up out
of your sleep and you just look really quick, even
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if it's on your phone whatever, like I I know,
I don't have my glasses on. Ever, you look and
you're just like, oh, the cops are here for some reason,
Like you're just not thinking that somebody's wearing a freakin
mask on your front porch dress as a cop trying
to get into your house.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I mean, back to your.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Point about the communication, I think this attack just seemed
really elevated. He had every element tied down where it
wasn't that obvious upfront. I mean, especially to the people
that were woken up in the middle of the night,
but especially like he certainly tricked the cops, even if
it was only for thirty seconds, long enough to be
able to go through their house and then eventually hide
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in the woods and become this manhunt that was apparently
the biggest manhunt in Minnesota state history, which is kind
of nuts to think about. But luckily, after two days
they were able to get him and he's in custody.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Now, yeah, I can't I can't believe that he was
on the run like that for so many days and
it and now, like, I mean, it just happened a
few days ago, So it's like we don't know that
many details, but certain details, like I want to know
how much planning went into this, because apparently in the
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car they found the hit list with a bunch of
names on it, and there were notes written about what their.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
House looked like.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
So this guy was like stalking them for days.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Apparently this was probably this planning was probably more than days.
I'm sure it was going on for takeing a year
or more. But then there's other shady stuff too. So
the guy allegedly texted his wife and said, words are
not going to explain how sorry I am for this situation.
There's going to be some people coming to the house
armed and trigger happy, and I don't want you guys around.
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And he also texted his family and said dad went
to war last night. I don't want to say more
because I don't want to implicate anybody. So so like
he was communicating with his family in that way. But
then this was the weird part. When they searched his
wife's car, they found two handguns, ten thousand dollars in cash,
and passports for his wife and her children.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, I mean, he could have put that stuff there.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
I'm not saying she's totally innocent in all of this,
but he easily could have put that stuff there and
was like just getting the car and go.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
But a normal person would not listen like he could have.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
But like, I'm sorry if you're putting ten grand in
someone's car, you're gonna tell them it's there?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Are you gonna tell them you're about to go murder
a bunch of people? Like I don't think so. So
I think he had this really well planned.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
If anybody, if Gabe.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Called me and was like, hey, just to let you know,
there's two guns, ten thousand dollars of cash, and all
your passports are in the car, like that, would I'd
be like, okay, honey, I'll see it for dinner.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I highly doubt that's the order of operations that went down,
Like he probably murdered them and ten grand in somebody's
car and like whatever I refused, I don't know. I mean,
she very well could have been invited.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I totally believe that he had that set up because
if she had the run, like she would be able
to get out of the guns.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
I'm saying he set it up like she might have
not known that was there, and then he was planning
to shoot her a text and be like no, we're
taking care of just getting the car and go.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Absolutely not. There's way more to this story. I just
don't buy you. Like, even like I understand that this
guy's a crazy person. But like, nobody just leaves ten
grand in a car without that's that's like what if
somebody broke into the car or something.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I think that since that's your takeaway, that's ridiculous of
all the details in the story, because I'm right, it's
gonna come back because listen, like you just have to
think about how people normally behave.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
And I understand, like obviously normally people don't put on
masks and go and kill people and execute them or whatever.
But but still it's just like, there's there's shadiness going
on here. And the fact that he said to his kids,
like I went to war means that they've been talking
about something that he went to war for me, they
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would know what that meant.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Maybe he was extreme with his ideologies and was talking
about them in the comfort of his home, and they're
just kind of like, ah, that's my crazy dad. But
I don't think you really think your parent's gonna go
forward and execute these actions they speak of.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's nuts.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, I can't wait to hear more because it's it's
a little sheep.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, Like, I don't think we're gonna get the full
picture until we start seeing interviews with the family but
and seeing how they're responding.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
To it in jail because they're they're accomplices maybe anyway,
all right, all right, so speaking of other things that
are just like I'm becoming like a huge conspiracy theory
over every single thing that's reported because I just don't
trust anything. But that, let's talk about this plane crash.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Twenty twenty five has really become in the year of
the plane crash, because there's just been like such a
crazy amount of them and we're only six months into
the year so far. So yeah, but I think that
if you I think that a lot of people say that,
but then when you look, it's like the numbers are
just kind of where they always are. Two commercial airliner
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disasters in six months, I feel like that's not common.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
The one in India though, it's just I don't know,
it's like it doesn't it doesn't count for our count
right for what anyway.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
It's not America, for America, Yeah, exactly about American commercial
airline disasters of talking about all over the world have whatever.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
There there's always there's always airline crashes. What I just
I'm like that I killed two hundred and forty one people.
I mean, this this one's this one is insane, and
the story's insane, and it gets even weirder.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
So a Boeing seven eighty seven Dreamliner was heading from
London to m Debad, India, or heading from m Debad
to London, and shortly after takeoff crash in the dorm
rooms of a local medical school. So it's unclear how
many were killed on the ground. But as I said earlier,
two hundred and forty one people were on board. I
guess where your conspiracy theory has coming in is that
two hundred and forty two people were on board, but
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one person miraculously survived.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
So what's your theory? All right?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Like, let me just say this that you and you
guys could argue with me all you want and take
I just don't take anything by its word anymore. This
airplane had twenty six thousand gallons of jet fuel in it.
It just took off a second before, right, It's a
lot of fuel to put in a fire. Any airplane
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fire or airplane accident causes terrible blunt trauma as well
as people burning to death and just terrible burns, amputations,
crush injuries, just terrible evidence of a plane crash. Okay,
so that's and not that people haven't survived. They have,
but we're just putting it out there that there was
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a lot of fuel on this fire. Then they showed
this video that I don't know. Did you see the
video that's been going around of the survivor coming out
of the out of the debris.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I saw an animation of I saw an animation that
I'm not accepting of a person no jumping out midair.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
But no, so he didn't jump out mid air.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I don't know why people are saying that, because that's
that's not what happens exactly.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
So this video is going around.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Now of actual footage of people filming this big ball
of fire over this medical school dorm room, and all
of a sudden, this guy just comes out of this
ball of fire, wearing a white T shirt and like
texting or talking on his phone. He just walks right
out of this ball of fire. He barely has any
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soot on his shirt. He's wearing a white T shirt
that looks white from when you're looking at it. You
would think if someone's coming out of a ball of fire,
they would be covered in like soot from the smoke,
and they would be beat up and their shirt would
be ripped and there would be blood and there would
be coughing because there's so much smoke around, right, because
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this is what happens when you're in a fire, not
to mention, like an inferno like this. And the guy's
just like on his phone and like, listen, I understand
that he could be in shock if this is true
or whatever, but you would expect to see the other things.
And when people don't die from getting burned or from
a traumatic injury in a plane crash, it's due to
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the smoke in aalation, all right. So you're so like
he would I would think that he would be. Did
you ever like see somebody come out of a fire
like that? It's just it's just weird to me, Like
it just doesn't sit right.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
With So you think he wasn't on the plane. He
just happened to be on the ground and then said
he was on the plane.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I don't know, I don't know. I don't know who
it is or what it is.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I just like, listen, this is just my this is
just my conspiracy theory that something don't seem right about it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
This is his story, but he says he doesn't remember
a lot that the plane because it didn't have The
plane crashed, and then before it caught on fire, the
emergency door had been bent and he was able to
it was broken, and he happened to be sitting and
see eleven A, which is right next to the emergency door,
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and because it had been broken from the crash, he
was able to get out seconds for it exploded.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
So that's his story. But I don't know even though
though if it exploded in close proximity to where he was,
Like the angle of this camera is like he's walking
out of a plume of an atomic bomb, looking like
smoke and stuff, and you're just like, h okay, dude,
I don't know. His shirt is white, Okay, but it's
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just weird. I'm just saying, you can't neglect.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
To tell this other story of another plane crash survivor
from nineteen ninety eight that also was sitting in seat eleven.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
That one's also a lie. They're just trying to get
people to buy that seat. No, so they're gonna charge
more money for that.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Seat in that case.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
In nineteen ninety eight, there was a horrific plane crash
in Thailand which killed over one hundred people. Forty five
people survived, which were primarily people sitting towards the front
of the plane. But one of those survivors was sitting
in the same seat eleven A. So of course, now
that seat is the most valuable seat in airline history.
Right now, you are not going to be able to
sit there unless you pay a premium. The probability though,
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in the other case is like forty five people's by okay,
Like it's a little bit it's a little bit more probable, Like, okay,
this is this is like a one to two hundred
and eighty ratio, and I know, you know, it's just
a little.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Bit different, just pointing.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I understand your conspiracy behind it, right, But they knew
pretty quickly that he was sitting in that seat number
So like, how would he have known that before? I mean,
let's say he was a person on the ground that
just so happened to be at the site of the
plane crash, how would he have had information to know
that eleven A was the seat on that exact flight
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with the emergency exit door. Because it's not the same
row on every single plane, I.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Don't know, well it is when you book it, though,
you know where, and can't they find his name on
the ticket? They need to find his DNA and confirm.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I just like there's something that's just a little I
feel like it's gonna be easily.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
They're gonna see his name on the plane ticket or not.
But how do you know that's him?
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I don't know, Like people have gone on fake with
fake ideas before whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I just don't you heard it here first? What listen?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I I'm just I'm just saying like it totally can
be cool and like, congratulations, dude.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I just like.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
If you saw somebody coming out of a swimming pool
that had dry clothes on, you would be like, they
weren't just in the swimming pool right.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Actually, in my chemistry class, there is this chemical I
don't know what it is right now, this powder that
you could put in liquid that when you put your
finger in it's wet and when you pull it out
it's completely dry. Obviously unlikely that situation, but it is
possible in some scenarios.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Unlikely, but there are things that exist. Let's move on to.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
These hidden cameras at the Ocean City boardwalk. Shocker, it's
the ones we always go into.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, well, we went there on Father's Day, you know,
down the shore, and I went in the bathroom with
the girls. I always go in there with them with them,
Like there it was all three of the bathrooms. They
found them, and I was just messing with them, saying
like yeah, that this happened. Like they kids can't believe
it either, but I'm thinking, all that's there are people
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going in the bathroom, especially with kids, and what perver
is doing this?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Like what are they looking for?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
So that's how they were found because some girl was
in there with her friend and her friend's kids and
they were getting changed to go on the beach. So
she sees this like pen hanging out by the trash can,
which is obviously weird in a bathroom. So then she
goes to investigate it and notices there's this blue blinking
light on it. Then she sees a lens with a
little slide that would be on like a webcam or something.
So she opens the pen up and then there's an
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SD card in there, so of course she had to
call the cops. Then they get this pen, and.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I think that's actually really cool that she did that.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, I do too, because because.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Let me tell you like I keep because obviously, like
this scenario could have happened with us, because we go
in those bathrooms all the time, and I'm thinking like,
if I saw something like that, I would probably just
ignore it.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Well, like honestly, like I would.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I would just be like, oh, someone left something in here,
because I you know, like sometimes if you see someone's
phone in the bathroom, I don't take it out because
I'm like, oh, if the person lost something, like they're
gonna remember and come back here instead of you know,
you give it to the cops or something, they might
not ever find it again.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
But if you saw it ever that was a blatantly
obvious camera, you would just leave it.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
But that thing, like I saw it, it doesn't look
like a blatantly obvious camera to me, Like she picked
it up and inspected it. That's what I'm saying. Like, first,
I wouldn't have picked it up off off the trash
canon there because it's skiv Like it's gross, you know,
Like I just seeing it across the room, I'd be
like maybe I don't know what I would do, but
(23:57):
I I'm more like, oh, I would just like leave
it there, unless it was an obvious camera.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
But then after she turned it in, they found more
cameras and other bathrooms along the sideway.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Yeah, all the way up the boardwalk. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
So you're like, that's awesome. And then I'm thinking, did
the police have to go through all the footage and
then try to contact everybody that was.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Recorded in them?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
How would you even figure that out?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So how does it work that little card they could
just pull out and look at the footage?
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Yeah, I mean I would be surprised if it was
elevated technology that was going back to some like home
based system, because it's just this like pen thing. I
just would be confused. I would be surprised if it
was going back to some sort of like monitoring system
on a computer.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
That's what I was thinking that it was. I mean,
I don't really know how that stuff works. I was
thinking that it was going like someone was watching it live.
That's not possible.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I would say, based on the level of the device,
that the person probably planted them, turned it on and
then was planning to go back and retrieve them to
get the recordings off of the card.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
So if the.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Police, well and and like maybe they have been doing that,
and well exactly so if the police have the SD card,
they could see exactly when they started recording, and then
they're gonna have to analyze the security cameras to see
who was going in those bathrooms at that time. So
the cops have to look at videos of people going
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to the bathroom and like, I don't yeah, because.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
They'll probably be able to see if the guy had
to turn it on before he left the bathroom, then
they'll probably see parts of him exiting the room, right
because he's in the stall.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, because I was wondering that. I was thinking like
that they should be able to find him easily if
it was connected to some kind of device, But I
guess that might be a little bit more difficult if
there's no it's possible. I just fingerprints and that girl
was hold the girl that called the cops was like
holding it and I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Like, no, your fingerprints are getting all over it too. Now.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, I mean, anything's possible, but I would be attually
surprised if that happened. If it was going back to
some like home based type of situation, I would say
he planted them and was going to retrieve them and
then download the information.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I wonder if it's just like a dumb kid. I
hope it is. Honestly, I don't know. This seem like
a teenage.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
This seems pretty calculated, so I would be surprised if
it was like a teenager being dumb.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I just hope it is, because I it's just like
so disturbing to think about it.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
But it's like, obviously you're taking videos of girls changing
and everything, but then you're obviously having videos of people
like shitting.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
It's a very fee That's well, that's what I did
when I went in the bathroom, like I was just
messing with the kids, and I was like, like I
was doing all this stuff, like, oh, for on camera,
They're going to turn it off because it's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, it's just like, yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
It's it's just it's just like really not cool. This
episode is brought to you by the Gross Room guys.
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to sign up. All right, So this woman went on
TikTok and starts explaining how she was convinced she didn't
have a vaginal hole because she had tried using tampons
in her teens and having sex several times but was
never successful. And then she watched the show Sex Education
in her one of the characters talking about a condition
that was similar to her own. You could go ahead
(27:49):
and say this, because there's no way, I'm pretty it's
a very it's a very weird.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
One of these weird medical words called imagine is miss
came up with this word. I I don't though, but
it's a condition where the vagina suddenly tightens up. So
they don't know exactly what causes it, but it could
be all It could be for psychological reasons, or it
could be for sexual anxiety disorders like history of rape
(28:15):
or any kind of trauma like that that you your
vaginal opening kind of like tightens up in tenses up
to the point where sometimes you can't wear tampons, but
also you have difficulty having sex and things like that.
So she's had this condition her whole life. And it's
crazy because she went to the doctor and said, hey,
I saw this condition on this show, and is this
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what I have? And the doctor was like, yeah, you
do have it, and she was getting so a lot
of times they want you to go do physical therapy
for it to strengthen the keegol muscles and to kind
of loosen things up around there, and but then COVID
happened and she kind of had a set back there.
So she said that she ended up buying these dilators
(28:57):
off of online. She bought diladers and vaginal diladers, like
think about I don't know, think about a dildo, That's
what it's.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Kind of like.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
But they start really small and thin, like a pencil,
and then they move their way up to the the
size of like a penis, let's say.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
And you.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Slowly start with the smaller one and you kind of
stretch it out until you can gradually get up to
the bigger one. And she was saying in this article
that she was a virgin because she not really by choice,
she didn't want to be, but she was just so
scared to have sex. So she finally did get married
and was able to have sex and stretch it out
(29:39):
down there. But it's cool that she's talking about it
because there's people that go through it all the time
and don't speak about it.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
So, yeah, especially a condition like this that's like, is
this considered something rare because I haven't heard of this before,
But I guess if you're going through something like this,
it's really scary and it's nice to hear somebody else's
experience and maybe help you identify it. She was able
to through hearing it on a show. Yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Rare, but it happens and people have it, and like
shows like that always want to show you the most
rare things. It's it's just like my Instagram or the
Grosser Room, Like I show you the craziest stuff that
barely happens to anyone sometimes, you know, but that makes
it the most interesting, right, But yeah, it's it's it's
a really it's a really interesting condition honestly, And it's
(30:27):
another interesting thing is just like the thought of physical
therapy for for your vadge. Well, like it's just a
very you know, unusual thing to feel like, you know,
you don't want to go to the gynecologist anyway, and
to think that you're going there to like work out
your vagina with somebody is just a little uncomfortable, right.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Well, I actually go to pelvic for therapy after my
endivitriosis surgery, and it is I guess the first appointment
is very awkward because I knew going into it that
they like stick their fingers or hands in your vagina
to like to stretch your muscles and see where you know,
you have tension and stuff. So I was prepared, but
I've heard stories of people being totally in shock that
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that's what goes down there.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
But did you did the place you go to is specialize,
is that?
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:15):
So all they do is badge therapy.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Well it's not like it's not all internal. So a
lot of the stretches I do are breeding exercises where
I have to like lay anserin positions and breathe and
like focus my breadths going like down in that area
to strengthen it. And then I have other like because
my surgery was in my abdomen, they we do it
like this rolling.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
On my It's like on YouTube, you can see it.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
You literally take your fingers and like roll down your
skin to like loosen the tension there.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
But I'm I'm actually really curious about this if obviously
some of you who are listening, No, I'm just curious
about the education for these people. Is it an actual
physical therapist that specializes in pulvic floor muscles or is
it a different education. I'm just curious about that.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
So I believe the woman in charge it where I'm
going as a doctor, and then they have physical therapists
working there that just specialize in this particular area. But
it could be different per practice, but they typically work
with people that are pregnant or postpartum, or older women
that are having like prolapse issues or.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
People like that.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
No, it's like a place that has multiple employees. It's
it's funny because, like you again, you never hear this,
and you're like, there has to be some kind of
market for it if they have a bunch of people
working there doing.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Oh, and it's popping there.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Like I had an appointment tomorrow morning and I had
to reschedule it because I can't go.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
And the next available appointment was in three weeks. Interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
I'm like, she's going to try to go with me,
see how this goes down, But we have to draw
the line somewhere.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I am just curious. I don't want to be in
your appointment. I'm just curious about the training that goes
into that.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, it's interesting, And at first I was like, why
am I here? But then afterwards and after doing the stretches,
there is a noticeable difference in how I feel.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Maybe people have good experiences are bad, But I think
in a case like this, chick gets helpful obviously, because
what else is she gonna do. They're going to force
something in there when she could like ease into it
and have a nice experience and turn her whole attitude
around about having sex.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
I just think it's it's just an I think about
this with gynecology too. It's just like a really interesting thing.
Like people ask me all the time, for example, like
how'd you get into this and stuff? And I guess
it's very unusual for people to have a job where
they're touching dead people, but I think it's more unusual
to have a job where you're just like arms up
in a badge all day, Like, how did you get
(33:43):
into that? How does this interest you?
Speaker 3 (33:44):
How?
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Like, I don't know, it's just crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I mean at first, it's like really awkward because you're
laying on a table.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
It's believe me.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It's like, but who's it awkward for the person to
doing it or.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Now because you're just like sitting there. But if you're
just like talking, it's fun whatever. But if you're just
sitting there in silence while it's happening, it's kind of
like awkward a little bit, But I mean it it's help.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
They give you the little sunglasses like they do at
the dentist, so you don't have to make icons.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
No no. It's nice though, because they also focused. I
noticed this check and her TikTok was explaining that their
first couple of appointments, she it was a lot of
emotional stuff. So they'll like talk you through like what
you're going through and how it's affected you. So it's
like a mixture of mental health and physical therapy treatment.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Okay, This new story is New Fear Unlocked. There's these
street cars in Toronto, which for us is basically like
a train that runs along the street instead of in
tunnels and stuff. But last week this person was on
it with their friend and they noticed an open syringe
sticking out from underneath of the seat next to where
her friend was sitting.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I mean the way that it's sitting there, anybody
could have easily sat on it, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I was looking at it, and like the plunger was
all the way down, so at least there was no
liquid of any sort in it. But I mean, it's
an open syringe. It appears to be used. You don't
know what's like on the edge of the needle, which
is disgusting. How disturbing would it be if you just
sat down on the train and got poked by something
like that.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Well, this is a good story though, because this is
something that people should know about because there's IVY drug
users all around, right, and that's I mean, we have
to assume this is from an IVY drug user. It
could be from a diabetic to our but like who
uses their medication on the train just sitting there and
like would leave the needle there that it's more than
(35:34):
likely an IVY drug user. And with an iv drug user,
there's just so much of a higher chance of it
being infectious because sometimes they share needles, and that it
could have hepsi, hive, any kind of bacteria on it,
So you could come into a situation where you accidentally
step on one or sit on one in this case,
(35:54):
and as soon as you do something like that, you
need to go get it checked out right away.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I mean, I would also agree with you that it's
probably a drug user, because I think most diabetics anymore.
I mean, there's definitely some people still using traditional surreins
with syringes with vials. But I'm thinking about my in
laws who are both diabetic, and they have the pens now,
and this didn't seem like it was dropped. It was
intentionally placed underneath the seat, perhaps for somebody to go
(36:22):
back and get for later use.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that about that,
but you should go to especially a lot of times
when people get an injury like this, their first thought
is to like run in the house and like pour
bleach on their hand or something. And that's the worst
thing that you could do, actually, because any kind of
antiseptic can break down the skin around the puncture wound,
(36:44):
so the really you should just wash it with soap
and water and like let it run under the water
for like ten minutes and just really you should squeeze
the area and try to just like get it as
clean as possible and then go to the hospital because
they can give you post exposure prophylactics, which are anti
retroviral medications like to prevent you from getting an HIV infection.
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It's not really going to help with hepatitis. A lot
of times people like, like you're not vaccinated for hepatitis B,
probably I don't know, usual like that's that's like something
that healthcare workers. I am just because I worked in
the hospital, but like there's certain viruses that you could get,
and it's just terrible if you have an exposure like that,
and the at least in the hospital most of the time,
(37:31):
like if I get caught on an autop sero surgical specimen,
like the person's in the hospital and I could get
their blood and see if they have any kind of
infectious diseases, Whereas like if you just find a rando
on the street and get stuck with it, then then
you don't even know if the person's carrying anything that
you should be worried about. So if you ever have
something like that happen, I mean, listen, Like, the chance
(37:55):
of getting anything in this situation is low in my opinion,
because it would go into your butt fat or your
butt muscle, like if it didn't go directly into your
bloodstream it and it's sitting there.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Well, it was like under the seat, So I would
say it would probably most likely pinch you in your
thigh or your calf because of where it was underneath
of the seat. Yeah, but I mean it, but it's
not going into your vein. No, but but still and
there's no visible blood on the needles, so like there's
just different things like that. But still like stranger things
have happened, so you should always get that checked out
(38:31):
out And it's just disgusting.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
It is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
But remember one time we found well that was near
your house that we found that whole entire like jar
of needles.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, in the your house bush. I have this like
bush in my front yard on the corner. And this
person is weird.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
There we were like doing lawn work and my husband
pulls out this gatoride bottle filled with syringes and we
were just like what the fuck, Like it is it is.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Like a random location.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
And like when Lucia was taking shots for her autoimmune thing,
I would put the needles into like a like a
water bottle or something like that, so they because we
didn't always have the the sharps container. But yeah, but
then you would throw them out, like you don't put it.
You don't just like leave it on the can't even
(39:22):
somebody put your trash like somebody somebody like yeah, somebody
placed it there. It's just not you could think like
maybe someone's trash can spilled over or something, but that's
not anywhere near where anybody would even put trash can
to the curb. So it's just like really bizarre that
it was there.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
All right, So we have an update about the pregnant
Georgia woman who has declared brain dead and kept on
life support because she was pregnant, and she has been
there since February and now her baby has finally been
delivered via c section on Friday, and now they're planning
to take her off of life support.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, so the baby they wanted to keep her. I
guess she was eight or nine, somewhere in between eight
and nine pregnant when she when she had this incident
where she was declared brain dead and they were they said, okay,
that she she's going to die, and then they made
her mother keep her alive because she was pregnant, which
is kind of outrageous, but they said that they wanted
(40:18):
to keep her pregnant until she was thirty two weeks,
so she had this so the baby had the best
chance of survival, and they delivered her this week at
twenty five weeks, which.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Is really really really early. Yeah, he was less than
two pounds.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, so the chance of survival though, is pretty good,
like seventy eighty percent in twenty five weeks. We actually
know someone that was born at twenty five weeks and
he's like fifty years old.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
So if he.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Survived, he's a doctor actually too. It was like, is
it he's a little off. He's a little off, but no,
he's one of my friends. But yeah, he he lived
at that time. I mean, it's such a tiny little baby.
But so now, like Maria said, they're going to take
the mom. I think they said they were taking her
(41:05):
off today. Actually, what an emotional roller coaster for this
poor mom to go on and you want to hear
I don't know if you heard this sad part of
the story too. She has a seven year old little
boy that the mom that that her mother has said
that the kid thinks that the that his mom's sleeping
and doesn't even know about the baby.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
That's horrible.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
So like it's horrible. It's so horrible for her because
not only when you say that, you speaking about the
woman the grandmother. Yeah, the woman who's in the who's
on life supports mother. Like, think about the ship she's
gone through in the past couple of months of like
getting that call that your daughter's been that your daughter
(41:46):
is hurt and may not survive, and then being told, Okay,
your daughter's definitely not going to survive, and then have
and then being told you can't take her off life
support because she's pregnant. Sitting there and just watching her
just like dead. She's dead on machines for months and
months and months just incubating this baby. And now the
baby you know. So now it's like the baby's born.
(42:07):
She's gonna love the baby, obviously, but the baby's in
the nick you now for for months. The baby will
be in the nick you to get their lungs more
mature and things like that. But then having the grandson
at home, who now she has to tell that his
mom's dead, and oh and you have a sibling now too. Like,
(42:27):
it's just a lot and I don't know what the
right thing to do is with with a little kid
like that that's seven, like they just don't understand.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Well, I mean, it is horrible.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
It's so horrible though, but a kid that's seven is
also like kind of hip and those you know, you
think that they don't really know what's going on, but
they know what's going on, you know.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
I have to tell the kid, I mean it, it's
unfortunate because of how young he is. I feel like
he'll be able to heal a little better than if
he was older and fully understood what was going Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Just like it's just like such a crazy and really
like the mom. The mom is feeling the brunt of
all of this, you know, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Feel terrible for her.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
All right, let's move on to questions of the day.
Every Friday at the AP mother knows that the Instagram
account you guys had head over to our story and
ask whatever you want. First, how can they tell from
just the skeleton that a woman has given birth? So
in the past, they would say that these partuition scars
which are on the pelvis were indicative of a woman
(43:27):
who has given birth, and now they're saying that they
don't really know if that's one hundred percent true. And
the reason why this is so important is because sometimes
if they find a skeleton in the woods, for example,
they're going to look at it and they'll be able
to estimate, Okay, this was a woman of child bearing
age and it looks like she had a kid. They
(43:47):
would say, you know, stuff like that, so you could
kind of narrow down who this person is. And now
they're saying that these might be some kind of scars
that are almost like think about like a stretch mark
that would occur and it to do with the pelvis growing.
So usually they are found in women because the most
common thing that happens in women is childbirth that causes
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the pelvis to grow and to stretch. But they've also
been seen in men too, so that kind of pushes
it out that that is there. So it might be
consistent with a person that has had childbirth or at
least has been pregnant. But now they're saying that that's
not a true telltale sign that that's the case all
(44:29):
right too. If somebody dies smiling, does their corpse stay
smiling or does the muscle relax? No, it doesn't stay smiling.
So if you think about when you smile, it's like
something in your brain is making you happy and it's
sending messages to your mouth muscles around your mouth that smile. Okay,
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so then you smile and then that sends messages back
to your brain that's like, oh, that feels good, and
you continue to smile. Right, But when you're dead, all
of those signals turn off, so that doesn't happen anymore.
And when you talk about rigor mortis, which is post
mortem muscle stiffening, that doesn't even start until about a
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half hour after death. But it really takes a couple
hours for that to fully kick in anyway, And that
really has nothing to do with it either. So to
answer your question, no, that usually when a person dies,
their muscles are very floppy. And you ever talk about
like picking up someone that's dead weight, like they can't
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hold you know, it's literally dead weight. So they're very
floppy and they don't start to stiffen for hours afterwards.
Speaking of public floor therapy. My last appointment, there was
like a dead deer in front of the complex that
was laying there, and you know, it was off to
the side, it was on the sidewalk. I just drove
from the driveway.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
So I'm in the waiting room and this crazy old
lady comes in and starts telling the receptionist, I have
a job for you, and then she starts complaining about
this dead deer. Mind you, there are fifty businesses in
this complex, Like this is this lady's personal job to
get this deer move.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Also, it was on the side.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
I mean this thing you know when deers are dead
and they're.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Like truly yeah, full on rigor. Also yeah, also like
when they start to decompose and they blow it. Also
just kind of it's like a float.
Speaker 3 (46:23):
It looks like a stuff fan like fills it up
with air. So she's going on this whole tirade about
how it just got hit and it's in the middle
of the driveway, and I'm like, first of all, it's
in rigor, so it didn't just get hit minutes ago.
Second of all, it was not in the middle of
the driveway. Third, it is not their receptionist problem. I'm
trying to make eye contact with her the entire time,
like this.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Bitch is crazier.
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Then she sits down starts asking me if it bothered me.
I'm like, it really didn't bother me. It was not
in the way.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
But that's just a full circle moment.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Oh boy, Anyway, last, how did you choose your daughter's names?
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Oh, well, Marie's name.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
I just liked the name Maria, so there was I
don't know, there was nothing like romantic about her name.
I just liked it, and so did my parents because
like I was a teenager, so it was just like
it worked out. We just were like, oh, that's cool.
I'm not like, I'm not crazy with the names like
some people are.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
I I feel like Maria and I were talking about
this a few weeks ago because I saw some video
about one of the Kardashians like changing the kid's name
after a year and this and that, and it's just
like I feel like that's kind of like a narcissistic quality,
like get over yourself. You're not that important, Like you
don't need to change your kid's name after a year,
Which is interesting because I'm I'm kind of a crazy
(47:44):
person when it comes to like changing things at my house.
Speaker 3 (47:48):
For example, you basically have a full year. You have
nine months to decide what the name of your kid.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Is gonna be.
Speaker 3 (47:56):
I mean, my mind is blown when people can't name
their kids when they're born. It's like you really haven't
had enough time to think this through.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
It's it is, it's it's like so weird to me,
and it's just like it's just not that big of
a deal. So yeah, So with Lilian, before Gabe and
I even like before I even got pregnant, he was
always like, oh, if I ever have a girl, I'm
naming her Lilian, after my grandmom. Like he called that
name years before I even got pregnant. So like I
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just knew if I had a girl that her name
was going to be Lilian. And then with Lucia, we
didn't have anything set because that was the only name
that we wrote that we were going to use, and
we were going to use Santino if we had a boy.
So and then we just thought Luccio was going to
be a boy because like, how could I have three
girls in a rep So since she ended up being
(48:52):
a girl, we we just wrote down like I really.
I wrote down a bunch of names and was like
like five or six names, and then me and Gabe
Maria like sat around and we're like, okay, which one
like at the top of the running for me personally
with Stella. But I also thought that there would have
been like other names that I would be fine with, because,
like I said, I just don't like I could have
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went with.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Any of them.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
And then Maria and Gabe both picked Luccio. So that's
how it went, and I think it's it worked out
perfect for her. But she also she also could have
been a Stella too. Probably Stella is.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
A really cute name. But of course, now that she's
older and stuff, and she has like kind of a
raspy voice and she's like fuzzy and stuff, Like a
little girl named Stella with like a smoker's voice like
she had when she was really little would have been
really funny.
Speaker 1 (49:42):
She doesn't have that anymore, no, but when.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
She was really little she had the real raspy, old
lady smoker's voice and her name, which we.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
Always thought, Yeah, we always thought that would have been funny.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
So yeah, so that was it.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
It was nothing. I mean, it was cool because we
all kind of picked it out. I liked it, and
then gab and Maria did too. So her middle name
she didn't have. We didn't have a middle name picked out.
And when she came out, she was really like red
and ruddy. She had some billy rubens, so she just
had like this like kind of tannish red skin color.
So we just called her Rose because it's because she
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was rosy. And that's it. Nothing, nothing too crazy, no,
but we did it. We should have called her like
Guda because she was like covered in cheese so bad
when she came out.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
We did not foresee, however, that people were going to
call her Lucia, which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Well, and that that was really like speaking of changing,
I would never change my kid's name. But the very
first time we went to the pediatrician, they they said Lucia,
and I was like, oh shit, man, I gave her
one of these names that nobody's going to know how
to pronounce. And it's always like Lucia Lucia, like nobody
(50:54):
ever gets it right actually, And Gabe said, but Gabe's
name's gabriel right.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
That to me is like easy.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
People called him Gabrielle every single time in school, like
calling his name and embarrassing. I guess it's just like whatever.
So I felt kind of bad because nobody, nobody ever
gets her name right. And that continues to this day.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I mean, people call me Mariah all the time, and
I'm like, do we just with boomers in particular, they're
just too lazy to say the last so well, and
then young people always call me Mariah and I'm like,
and I just guess we're not learning how to read anymore,
you know.
Speaker 1 (51:33):
How, Like I get tripped up with the name like
like Kristin because it's like Kristin and like I have,
like I don't have that many friends, and a lot
of them have the same name Chrissy, Kristin, Christine. They're
all like kind of the same.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah. And then and it's like maybe people, yeah, like
maybe people get like that with.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Like with the Maria, Mariah, Marie, like they're all kind
of the same, you know that people can't ever.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Remember.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
I don't know, that's is weird, all right, guys. Well,
we have the Meat and Greek coming up in Atlanta,
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Speaker 3 (53:20):
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Speaker 2 (53:22):
See Yeah.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
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