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On today’s MKD, we talk about a plastic surgery enthusiast who died, a questionable Chipotle experience, a kidnapping victim who used his tooth to escape, a new study about the benefits of fart sniffing, and a dead woman discovered in a dollar store freezer. 

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about an Instagram model with extreme body
modification who's been found dead, a Chapolte customer who claims

(00:31):
they bit into probably the grossest thing ever, a crazy
story involving a kidnapping and teeth. We have another study
about farts and a dead woman who was found in
the freezer at a dollar store. All that and more
on today's episode. Let's get started with this Instagram model.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
All right, so Modes, I thought, you know that they
just call only fans people all of a sudden, models
instead of porn stars, which is what they are. I
thought this was gonna be the situation. But she's an
Instagram model and plastic surgery enthusiast going by the name
Mary Magdalen. So her real name is Denise Jarvis. She
has died after falling from the ninth floor of a

(01:13):
high rise in Thailand.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
So I thought that she looked really familiar, and sure
enough I did a post in the grocery and back
in two thousand and twenty three on this woman because
she was going viral for being for saying that she
had a uniboob because apparently she had eleven pound breast
implants and one of them popped, and she just had

(01:37):
one huge, eleven pound breast implant in her chest.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, the size was a thirty eight J cup.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, that's so. When I posted this in the grocery
in which the post is still there if you guys
want to check it out, she had she had had
all a history of all this surgery. But when you
just look at her body, I mean and like, listen, whatever,
people could do, whatever they want to do. The thing
that pissed me off about it was that some doctor
actually did that to her because of course it popped.

(02:08):
Of course it did, because I don't even know where
you could get implants that big anyway. It just is
so outrageous, and you look at her body and you're
just like, she looks massively uncomfortable because of how tight
her skin is over these implants. And then you start
going into her history and finding out that she's had

(02:29):
some other extreme procedures too that she's had complications from,
including one where her lips were made so big she
couldn't close her mouth, Like what fucking doctor would do
that to a person. It's so it's such malpractice, Like.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Are these doctors gonna be held responsible for this because
like look at certain celebrities faces, You're like, you've just
completely made this person deformed.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Well if she it'll be held responsible if her death
was caused by that. Which listen, like it's it's pretty
heavily weighing towards suicide at this point, So you could
argue that it is pointed towards that. But they'll never
get in trouble for this. But your I mean, aside
from your mouth being, you know, you wanted to look
pretty and sexy and all that stuff. It's the top

(03:14):
part of your gi track. You need it in order
to eat and to survive as a human being. She
couldn't close her mouth, like, think about that. A doctor
did that to her. Number two, another one, she wanted
to get her vagina made bigger so she could take
in bigger penises, So some doctor did surgery on her

(03:36):
to make her vagina bigger. Like that's and listen, like
there's times where where people have vaginal a treasure, or
they have strictures or something like that that they have
to do surgeries like that, but which is fine. It's
a medical reason, like cosmetically to make your vagina bigger,
so you could take bigger penises. Like I don't know.

(03:57):
I just think that there's a certain level that you're
like setting aparent up for problems. And she had a
lot of complications from that.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, And I mean she didn't only have the addiction
of classic surgery. I mean she had other crazy body
modification as well. It looks like her pupil was dyed yellow,
Like don't they do that with tattooing sometimes?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Oh I didn't. I thought it was a contact lens.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
No, I thought her whole eyeball was yelling.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, it's completely possible, which is also which is also
really bad. And yeah, I mean I feel terrible. She
did some cryptic posts right before she died that was
like some quote from The Truman Show and it said,
in case I don't see you, good afternoon, good evening,
and good night. And she also included childhood pictures of

(04:43):
herself in the same post. And then she changed the
name of her Instagram too to Mary Magdalene died, so
clearly she knew she was going to fall off this
building in which it was a hotel room that she
booked for only one night. So oh, they haven't come
out and said it, but it's it's looking like that's

(05:04):
where the investigation's going right now. Yeah, and I feel terrible,
like looking at you look at someone like her, and
you're like, clearly she's not mentally well, and some doctors
just keep feeding into it and it's just terrible. Well,
I think her argument at the beginning was, you know,
you could take it into consideration, because she was basically saying,
these surgeries give me adrenaline, and it's no different than

(05:26):
doing extreme sports, which are also dangerous and give you
this adrenaline rush, which like I don't agree with it,
but I can understand it. And then it seems like
after her one breast implant pop, she started regretting all
these procedures and started trying to scale back a lot
on them. So I wonder if she just hit a
point where she's like, I can never go back and
whatever was happening mentally with her, Yeah, I mean, just

(05:48):
you have mental you have mental issues anyway, and then
dealing with complications from having your vagina widened and bleeding
complications that she had to have blood transfusions and stuff.
I mean, like just no, I mean really, the doctor's
you know, the extreme sports thing is a perfectly fine reference.

(06:08):
The problem is with these it's like someone has to
do that to you. Yeah, and you're looking at her
and you're like, okay, like come on, how is she
functioning normal with this body right now? It's just it's
not cool, all right.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
So a woman is claiming she had a burrita bull
from Chipotle and when she took a bite, she bit
into a rodent.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, So I don't know, like I looked at the picture,
and so apparently Chipolte has come out and said they
looked at the evidence, the actual evidence, and they looked
at the picture and they think that it's a piece
of a chicken tendon or a ligament or something, which
is gross too actually, but I mean, like it's not
as gross as a dead rodent in your thing. I

(06:50):
don't know, because I don't even think the picture is
clear enough for me to ever say that it is
or it isn't.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, Like I'm looking at this picture. It's kind of
great and you can't really see that well, but it's
kind of giving years. So like I wasn't really that
comfortable with it being described as a chicken tendin. But
I don't know regardless if it was a chicken tendan
or it was eroded, it's absolutely disgusting. But I do
think this lady's taking it to the next level, being
extra ridiculous with this lawsuit.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
So this is actually a good question, Like, and in
this case, if this happens to somebody today, right, you're gonna,
I guess, call Chipolte and call them out. But then
if you want to do a lawsuit, like I feel
like you should keep the food in your freezer or something, Yes,
but who do you give it to?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
You're I don't know, Like it needs to be documented
way more properly.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean, because I know, for example, it would be
very easy to tell at least I mean you could
do you could do a DNA test on the meat,
or you could you could look at it under the microscope.
And I mean, in theory, just based upon it's supposed
to be chicken, right, so if you see hair and

(08:04):
the skeletal muscle, I'm sure looks different microscopically too, Like
you could be able to say, well, it's not chicken,
it's a mammal, right, which is which is you'll see
you could see mammary, gland, all these different things that
you wouldn't see in a chicken.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
So like.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Somebody can investigate and prove what that is. But like
if all she has is a photograph and it's that one,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I can't see anything. I guess this is this is
where my criticism comes from. If she actually bit into
a rodent, I do think she has a credible lawsuit
on her hands. You know a lot of people say
we are like lawsuit defenders a lot, and like, I
really don't think so. I think we call people out
more on their ridiculous ones. And this is what this
is one that I think is getting out of hand.
So in her lawsuit, it's saying she suffered severe bodily

(08:55):
injuries as well as pain, chock, and mental anguish, although
she never disclosed with the injuries where, and the rodent
was never disclosed what kind of rodent in particular it
was what I really.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Don't like, it's going to be a pet hamster, Like
it's a freaking could be a roach. A rodent is
not a roach, a squirrel a road yeah, like it
could be a squirrel. I think a squirrels can might
be considered a rodent mouse. No, they're they're bugs. I

(09:31):
don't know, is like a specific like species of animal.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
It's not just an unwelcomed critter in your home because
the definition was all an anyway. They never specified whether
it's a mouse or rat whatever, or a squirrel. Potentially
anything's possible in New York City, and she never disclosed
the bodily.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Could be like a mouse had sex with a cockroach,
and it's like a new breed of this of some thing.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
This happened.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
This happened on How.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
I Met your Mother on an episode, and they called
it a cocker mouse. So anybody that wants to show
the exactly what I'm talking.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
About, it definitely was a cocker mouse.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Then what I can't get down with is she also
broke DoorDash and the driver and his co defendants arguing
the delivery man employed through the through DoorDash quote improperly
and negligently delivered the product in an unsafe and unsanitary matter.
Yeah the bag was sealed. How did he know? And
why is he responsible for it?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Even if the bag wasn't sealed, like that's what makes
me think like, Okay, this lawsuit is just like she's
trying to get money from somebody, because I I'm like,
any reasonable person would be like, how the hell does
this Listen, we were just talking about door Dash on
yesterday's episode, right, like, how did That's just ridiculous? How
would door Dash be responsible for that? Yes, exactly, Yeah,

(10:54):
I get I don't know. I want to stay up
to date on this because I mean listen, like if
you if they're really is a raw because you're assuming
that it got it crawled in there and it's not cooked,
right or I guess it could be cooked with the chicken.
I don't know how raw whatever, Like rodents like mice

(11:14):
can have, and rats they could have, like hantavirus like
like Betsy Arakawa and Gene Hackman situation, right, they they
carry parasites and stuff like especially ones that are just
like living in the wild. Who knows what the hell's
going on with those things? But plague right, just I
mean she could have got sick. If it's not you're

(11:35):
saying it's not disclosed. Did she not disclose it to
the lawsuit or they just not letting us know what
it said, because like she legitimately could, especially if she
got some kind of illness that she could prove she
got from a rodent.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Like the article said, her lawsuit did not specify her
bodily injury.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
But eventually she'd have to write.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
As a frequent chipotleer myself, I just I just want
to say, like this picture you set me, right, it
looks like it's a whole creature in there, right, not
just like a part of a creature. It's the whole creature.
And I'm just having a hard time understanding that because
like when you get a chipol a bowl, it's like
you're getting rice beans. Everything's like chopped up really fine.

(12:17):
So even if you did a spoonful of it like
they they're I watch, you can watch them build it.
They do it like while you're looking at the glass,
they're taking a spoonful. And I just don't see how
the employee got the spoonful. You didn't see this whole
ass creature sticking out like maybe spoonful, same.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
With black beans or something. Yeah, but to me, the.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Spoonful isn't as big as what this road it is.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around it. Okay,
Back in twenty twenty three, this man had been kidnapped
and tortured in this shed on a residential property by
two men. So these guys duct taped his wrist to
his ankles, beat him with a pole, bit him, burned
him with cigarettes, and worst of all, ripped out some
of his teeth and parts of his gums, which sounds
apps horrific. So from all this torture, this guy ends

(13:03):
up passing out. He wakes up later in only his
socks and underwear. He's laying on the grounds. He's one
of the jagged teeth laying next to him and is like,
fuck it, I'm gonna try something and literally uses the
tooth to cut the duct tape open and escapes.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
I can't believe that this story is real, and it's real, Yes,
it's it sounds like a movie that you wouldn't even believe.
It actually sounds like something that would be in like
Home Alone or something. It's like, it's like a crazy,
outrageous story. And so I guess at court that's what
so I guess the court park gets even weirder because

(13:40):
of the guys eventually got caught and what their excuses
are is to what happened that day, one of them
being that the guy tripped and his teeth fell out,
and then they had a dentist testify and say, no,
we could tell that they were pulled out, and they
did not look like that because they were pushed out.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
These people were clearly idiots. It's like they texted each
other and one of them texted the other and said he's.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Out, Yeah, he's out, and then the guy was like, oh,
I was referring to a dog. Yeah. It's like yeah, like.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Okay, and the cops end up getting called because he
escapes somehow, and then the neighbor sees this basically naked
guy running down the street covered and it's like, I'm sorry,
but anybody's seeing that out there window is gonna call
the police because you're like, what the hell is going on?
And then I don't know what goes on in Syracuse
where this happened. But that doesn't seem like.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Normal, beak, It doesn't even the whole entire story doesn't
seem like it's real. It's just so crazy a tooth
like I guess, I mean, you get desperate, you start
getting creative, like you know, like when I go to
the Tihuahua or something, and I buy a Topo Chico
bottle and I can't get the lid off because I
don't have a bottle open or on my keychain. You

(14:53):
start looking around at what can I use to get
this lid off? And I used my seatbelt buckle. Of course.
That's yeah. But like you know, you get you get
when you're when you really want something, you get desperate
and you start looking at things, and I guess that
sharp tooth that was laying there was just enough to
cut open the duct tape.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Very interesting, fun fact. My trunk has a built in
bottle opener, so another time that's in your card.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Actually no cars.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
For like off roading and camping and stuff and drinking
and driving driving.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
So the one kidnapper pled guilty in exchange for only
a ten years, and so that the other guy was
on trial. The jury obviously did not believe his story
at all, and he's facing twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
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All right, So last week we got into whether women's
farts smell whers the men's, and now we have this
new study about how smelling them could potentially boost your
IQ and help with Alzheimer's, which seems unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
All right. So John Hopkins University has discovered that hydrogen
sulfide gas, which is the gas we smell with farts
that we did talk about last week, smelling like rotten eggs,
could protect aging brain cells from cognitive decline in Alzheimer's.
So they used genetically modified mice that mimic human Alzheimer's disease.

(17:10):
Injected them with hydrogen sulfide and it released gas molecules
throughout their body for over twelve weeks, and when scientists
tested the mice, they were really shocked to see that
their cognitive and motor function improved by fifty percent along
with the ones that were not treated. So this is

(17:31):
really cool because that could help bring some kind of
treatment to people who are suffering from Alzheimer's. The question
that I had was like, what would you know? Cause first,
when you hear this, you're just kind of like, why
are they studying farts? This? And that? Like what would
even make them think that a fart could help alzheimer?

(17:52):
You know what I mean? And what the reason that
they even did this research was because they did realized
that people that had Alzheimer's have lower levels of hydrogen
sulfide in their brain tissue in their blood. So their
thought was, well, since they're deficient in these levels, if
we raised them higher than what would happen? And hydrogen

(18:14):
sulfide gas is a fart. So I don't think that
they were particularly studying farts, but it's just kind of
like funny to say it like.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
That, right, Can you imagine if farts ended up being
the cure to Alzheimer's. Like, how crazy that would be?

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, I mean it's really cool though, because that's significant,
And obviously there's so much more to go because you're
actually creating mice to mimic a human that has Alzheimer's,
so it's not even though you could kind of do it,
it's not the same obviously, So there's going to have
to be so many more studies done. But now that

(18:52):
they know it works in a mouse, then it is
possible that it could work in a human as well.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Listen, one of my biggest fear is like getting a
cognitive issue like this later in life, and I just
hope by the time I'm an old person the farts
are the cure and this is all sorted out.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
I'll just come I'll just come over and fart near
you all the time to make sure that your brain functions. Well,
my husband doesn't. I don't far anyway, It's fine, I
never have once in my life.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
But I guess a good point, if you want to
tie it into last week's story too, is that they
were saying that this compound is more present in women's
farts than men, So are women going to.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Be better off than men in this. No, it's well,
we're just their farts will be worth more money because
we have higher concentrations.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
There was that girl on ninety Day Fiance that was
selling her farts and making like a ton of money
off of it. But the GI issues.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I remember that. I remember that we were talking about
that because I was just like, wait, she was having
GI issues.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Well, she was eating a lot of foods to make
her fart more and then she started having GI issues.
Oh god, yeah, but she's just making a lot.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Of money where on only fans.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yeah, I think she was selling or maybe she had
like a big cartailer, Etsy shop or something selling.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
So people would buy a jar of farts. Yes, well,
can we like add that onto our store reps? Listen
some of these things that you hear people do. I'm
just kind of like, I don't know, like I'm.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Ethically against that or selling feet picks, so like.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Oh no, I'm I'm into the feet picks too. I
feel like that could definitely be a good.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I'm like, good for you for figuring it out, you know,
And yeah, money, No, it is exactly And that's the
best one because you're not even really like exploiting yourself
even a little bit, like it's just your feet, someone's
just it is gross your feet.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
It is gross though, to think that somebody's like whacking
it to that, it's kind of gross.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
I just feel like if I ever sold feet pictures,
I'd make it like you couldn't tell it was my foot,
Like you're kind of beat because you have tattoos, so
people know it is your foot. But like I don't
have a tattooed foot, so I feel like I could
get away with it anonymously.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah. I don't know, but it's it's a good money
making scheme.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
You know, ivey have cost a lot of money, so
consider all. Right, over the weekend, a woman was found
dead in the freezer at a dollar store in Miami.
So they saw that she came in the store the
night before, didn't buy anything, and then somehow she got
into an employee's only area, got locked in the freezer
or just got stuck in there. It never came out,
and then the employees ended up finding her dead the

(21:30):
next morning.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
This is really upsetting because she's a mother of two
and apparently she's from Nicaragua, but she's an anesthesiologist there,
so I don't know if she was she's visiting on vacation,
you said, or don't. I don't know why she's sting
on vacation. But regardless, like I hope to God that
she wasn't trying to go to the bathroom and got
locked in the frickin' freezer, because that's almost what it

(21:54):
sounds like. She went in, went to the back, went
to an area where she shouldn't have been, and was
in freezer. Like that would be a weird way. They're
saying right now that it doesn't appear to be foul play,
so like that would just be like the most bizarre
way ever to want to kill yourself. So it seems
like it was accidental.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
I do understand that, But at the same time, it's
not like a freezer door and a bathroom door look
the same, Like it's quite obvious it's a freezer.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
So like I don't know, and like what people do,
maybe you would walk all the way in their bathrooms
look have different doors, and she just didn't know what
it was. I don't freaking they've ruled out foul play already,
and they don't know if it was perhaps a drug
or a mental issue.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I mean to I see where you're coming from. But
I think that's really a stretch because it's like and
then you open the door and the freezer like coldness
is coming out, and then you still proceed to go
in and they get locked in it. It just doesn't seem
like that's.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Finally it is. I mean, I'm sure the thing is
is that. I mean, they'll have to do the autopsy
and things like that. She's gonna be like partially frozen,
I suppose if she was in there for a while,
which is disturbing. But I mean, they'll, I guess they'll
just check to see like if she had any kind

(23:10):
of because obviously, like if she was on any kind
of drugs or something, then that would make you not
think clearly, right, And they're going to go through our
medical history and see if she has a history of
mental illness and stuff like that. But god, that was
my first thought. I just thought that it's just so
bizarre that she just walked in and didn't even like
shop or anything yet, because it's just you think that's

(23:31):
what you do, Like you have to go to the bathroom,
so you jet to the back before you start looking around,
you know what.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I mean, well, this reminds me of a story that
happened at the bar. I'm pretty sure I've told this
on here before, but basically, they were it was almost
the bar closer too, so it was almost closing, and
this girl came in and we had a bathroom in
the basement and one upstairs, so the one door we
had to the bar, you could go right in and
go right downstairs to the bathrooms, right, So I guess

(23:57):
this woman came in went in the women's bath through them.
And then the next day at six o'clock so they
closed and everything. And then the next day, at like
six o'clock in the morning, my manager gets an alert
that the alarm is going off in the bar, and
he looks at the camera and sees this woman just
like roaming around the restaurant and she can't get out

(24:17):
because of the way the door's locked. So like they
like end up going back through the footage and they
see she goes down there right before closing, and the
guys that were closing never looked in the women's bathroom
to check.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
And she that's like a problem with the restaurant because
when there was somebody really that shouldn't have been down
there that was trying to do something bad.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Well, she did Heroin in the bathroom and passed out
and woke up at six o'clock in the morning, So like, yeah,
it was a problem, but it.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Was kind I don't mean that, like I mean like
somebody that's like trying to commit a crime, Like I mean, whatever,
she committing a crime on herself, but like someone was
gonna hurt one of you guys and be there in
the morning to like rob the place or something.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Well, yeah, of course that's a major issue, but like
we just couldn't believe it happened.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, I know, it's so crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
All right.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Well, on that.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Note, we've a show in New York City coming up
in February. We'll be posting more details about that guy.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Like, nothing's going on in February, so just come hang
out with us and see our show live. It'll be
so much fun. And then we'll get to meet all
you guys too, and you'll get to meet each other.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, and some of our other true crime friends will
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Yes.

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As my training is as a pathologist's assistant, I have
a master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.
I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed

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