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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,
Welcome The Mother Knows Zeth. We have a great show
for you today. We are back from our dreaded cruise,
so we are going to get into all of the
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details of our trip. We're going to get into some
freak accidents that involve injuries and death related to summertime activities.
A man who accidentally swallowed a toothbrush fifty two years
ago and recently started having problems. True crime taking place
at the Happiest Place on Earth. A new Netflix documentary
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talking about an unsolved case involving a woman who disappeared
on a cruise, so that's very relevant to what we
just went through. A guy who received an organ transplant
and got more than just a new kidney, and the
morbid reason why one town is being told to boil
their water. All that and more on Titday's episode. Let's
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get started talking about our experience. The first time we
ever took a cruise.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Oh my god, I'm not gonna lie. When we pulled
up to the boat, I was real stressed out when
I saw and it didn't help that the parking was
such a shit show because it just had everybody's blood
pressure raised.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, the first the first couple of minutes of it,
I guess just approaching I don't know. When we pulled up,
I was like, oh, this is kind of cool, and
I was I was optimistic about it going in. I
was a little upset about the parking situation because it
was kind of as Maria said, it was kind of
a shit show. It was to the point where I
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planned for us to be there an hour early, and
thank god I did, because if we just would have
went according to the time it said to drive there,
would have missed the boat just because of the parking situation.
So but other than that, that was it was pretty
I thought it was pretty cool how easy it was
to really get on and off of the boat. It's
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a nice it was. It was really nice leaving yesterday,
just we it. We were allowed to leave our the
boat at seven forty five and I was home by
a little after nine o'clock, So that was that was awesome.
It was just very quick on, you know, on and
off for the most part. I mean, day one.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Let me rewind a little bit, because like my morning
started off with the night before, I was up until
almost midnight editing the Karen Read episode because it was
so long. It was it was so long, like taking
me forever to edit it, and so I'm really tired.
At end of the morning, my neighbor just casually tells
me and my husband how the guy died in my house,
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which I don't really want to get into. No, you
have to. You can't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I don't let you. She does this all the time
with the kids. She'll say something and give like this
teaser and not give them the full story. Like, now
you have to tell everybody how your neighbor died in
your house. This whole entire show is about is about death,
so you need to tell them exactly what happened.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
All right. So we knew we bought the house off
of the people that built it, like a long time ago,
so it was only owned by one family before. And
we were having a yard sale a couple of years ago,
and a neighbor said she used to be friends with
one of the kids. They had four children, the people
that lived here, so and they're now in their like
fifties and sixties. So at the yard sale, this woman
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said she was friends with one of the sons, but
he died and they don't talk about it, so we
knew one of them had died when they were younger,
so all this time we didn't know how. I tried
looking it up, nothing came up whatever. So my neighbors
across the street have also lived here since like the
neighborhood was built in the sixties, so my husband's always
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talking to the guy. And then it came up that
they had four kids living in the house, and my
neighbor just casually goes, yeah, well one of them died
because he hung himself in the attic doing some sex stuff.
And I'm like, all right, this is how my Saturday
vacation can start.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Which is also really interesting because another one of the
children had been caught up in a huge sex like
a child pornography sting in our area. So like, I
don't know what the hell was going on in that house,
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and I hope you don't find any weird shit in
the walls or anything.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
But I'm like, why are both the sons and this
family such sex pest? Like what was going on in
this family that they I don't know what was going on.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I just think it's bizarre because your attic isn't somewhere
I would because when you say that somebody killed themselves
hung themselves doing weird sex stuff, to me, that's autoerotic. It'sphyxiation,
That's what I'm thinking. And that's not suicide. That's an
accidental death. So for me, it's like that's for those
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of you who don't know. That's when when a man
is having sex or with himself, or you could do
it with other people too, But in this case, this
guy had put something around his neck to cut off
his oxygen supply to his brain while he was having
an orgasm, because it's it's supposed to be like the
best orgasm ever, and people do it to they do
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it to experience this orgasm. They don't do it to
kill themselves. So but when you're cutting off your carotid arteries,
there's a chance that you can accidentally kill yourself. So
that's what happened. So that's why it's interesting to me
that someone would do that in your attic, because I
don't think when I look at your house, that's not
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like a place that I would want to hang out.
It's not I mean, if he was really killing himself,
then you would say Okay, he did that, but I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
My house is very small. I can't fathom having one
child in this house alone, this very small house for
four children for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
So that's that's what people used to do back in
the day, like kids used to share bedrooms and no,
I know, but what I'm saying is like I could
see him going up there because it would have been
like a hangout zone or whatever. But it's it is
just it is just weird that you know, two of
their kids were doing this naughchy stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
But so this is on my Saturday start. I'm like
pagging the car waiting for Dedie to show up because
we were driving together, and this information comes to late,
truly two minutes before she bod my house. So I'm like, okay,
this is how vacation starting. Now you have a two
hour car ride to Bayone. Then you get there and
the traffic is such a shit show. I mean, our
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ship will fit like what five thousand people. I'm like,
they get forty five thousand people in and out of
Citizens Bank Park almost every day and they can't figure
out the cruise parking. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It was ridiculous. But overall, we don't need to go
over every single detail of the of the cruise, but
what did like, what did you think of it overall?
Do you think would you go back on one?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
No? I mean I when I was on it, I
was able to dissociate. I thought it was gonna be
really scared of being I don't like boats at all.
I thought it was gonna be really scared of the
open waters. And once it started moving. I was also
terrified of getting seasickness. So once we started moving, I
wasn't I was actively trying not to look out the
window because I was scared I was gonna get seasick.
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And I'm like, what am I going to do for
the next five days if I'm seasick. So once I
started going and we're with everybody, I was totally comfortable
and I liked. We got to Bermuda a couple of
days later. I thought Bermuda was awesome and beautiful. The
beach there was really cool. Everything there was really cool.
I thought the cruise was fine, like I had a
really good time with our family. But I don't think
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I would cruise ever again, because I just think it's
a giant scam.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I that was a turnoff to me was all of
the unknown charges and the sliminess of it was just
to turn off. But that's I guess that's to be
expected in a situation like that. I really liked I
really really liked the boat part of it, and the
sunsets and the water, and we had a balcony and
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we left the door open all night when we were
sleeping and you could hear the water and it was
just so still and awesome at night and pitch dark,
and all of that was was really really cool. So
I liked that whole part of it, but it was
too like people lee for me, to way too many
people and just the gross Like if it didn't have
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a casino, if it didn't have people smoking in the
only part of the shade next to the pool, if
it's you know, like there's certain things, then I would
be like, okay, a little bit more open minded to
doing it. And I just didn't. I didn't really like
the food situation. It's it's weird for me to say
that because they said it was like all you can
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eat food, and.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well, I think for drink. I think for us it
sucked because of the gluten problem, because you know, before
I had the gluten intolerance. I would eat chicken fingers
and all that stuff and be totally fine with eating
stuff like that. But when you're like us and you
have this restriction, they really did not have a lot
of gluten free options and it was hard to eat anything,
and the things we could eat were not particularly great.
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So it's having a hard time with that.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I just think that what I didn't like about it was,
for example, we travel a lot and when we're on
when we go to a hotel, will always stop at
like a convenience store and just get some snacks and
bring back the food to the hotel and eat in
the room. And because we just will like watch Shark
Tankathon or something like that at started in nine o'clock
or whatever, and this it was just like, really it
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it was hard to bring food back to your room.
There was no refrigerator in the room. There was a cooler,
which is not a refrigerator. If you wanted to drink,
you had to go to a restaurant to get it.
Like I just would have liked vending machines. I don't
know whatever, but overall, I don't know, A part of
me is like it was better the parts of it
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that I was thinking were going to be good ended
up being way better than I thought it was going
to be. And I liked that you could walk around
the ship and they kind of let you go wherever
you wanted to go, which we'll get into later with
one of our stories that might explain what happened to
that woman that went missing. But I like that We
went to different areas of the boats multiple times and
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there was no people around, so it was easy to
kind of get privacy considering that there were that many
people on the boat. So I'd be open to going
on one again if it wasn't that one. There has
to be different ones that because to me, it was
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like I've always said this, I hate go I've hated
my whole entire life a party atmosphere and loud music
and drinking and cigarette smoke and that whole party atmosphere.
It I hate it. There has to be other.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
People like me. Not the place for you. It is
not you, but there has to.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Be lots of people like me that that aren't into
that as well. It can't be every single cruise.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Is like that. Yeah, but that's like the point of
going on a cruise because it's like a party on
the ocean. You're not a party person. So it's like
my husband thrived on the boat. Everything it was like
it was.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Ricky's dream come true. And Maria was just like, yeah,
this is it, so enjoy it because we're never coming back.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Also, not to brag, but I won bingo one day
and they were just they were they were like trying
to keep the money. So this was what the last
the last because the technically the last day we got
off the boat at seven thirty in the morning, So
the day before I won bingo, and then at the
casino when you win, you get the money right there.
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And then with the bingo, they were like you could
come to the desk after midnight and collect it or
we'll roll it over in your account. And I'm like, no,
this is not going towards another cruise, like I'm getting
the cash and it was like this whole thing. It
was so ridiculous. Things like that I really did not appreciate.
I thought, overall, it was a nice time. We had
a really good time with the family. I didn't get seasick,
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except the one night in the middle of the night
I woke up because in the rooms you could really
feel the boat moving, and now that we're off the boat,
my balance is totally off.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Like I keep getting Cha said that yesterday too. She's like,
is it weird that I feel like I'm still moving?
And I was like, no, that's I was like, you know,
when you go on a triabmill and you get off
of it, you like still feel It's probably.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I will say for our whole family though, that has
no problem all discussing our poop problems. The motion was
good for the bells. Everybody didn't pooped from times the
entire time. Yeah, but even I was also worried, you know,
because they say, like cruise ships, a lot of people
get sick. I mean definitely the last day at Bengo,
everybody was coughing, and I was like, this is just great.
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But I thought that.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
It was fine. Yeah, it was fine. We had no
there were no issues with at least that we know
of people getting sick or any kind of mechanical issues.
So it was yeah, I mean I thought it was
it was good for that means part.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So last night when we got home, I did watch
the Poop Cruise finally, because we had talked about it
almost a week ago or I guess a week ago
we recorded that episode, so we hadn't seen it yet,
and it was actually so much worse. And I feel
like we talked about in the story, everybody was saying
at like five o'clock in the morning, they were asleep
and the alarm started going off. So a lot of
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people are hungover and confused, and they were full blown
in the middle of the gulf at that point. And
then it just took days and the poop didn't start
actually coming into the hallways and going down the walls
until the tugboats got there and started towing them, because
I guess from the motion from the toe that's when
the ship started to go inside the side. Oh but
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it was such a nightmare. But yeah, I think every
reached why. I mean, I was so scared watching it
because we had just been on it and so I
had the exact experience and that would have been a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Okay, So let's get started. Since we've been talking about
cruises and everything, We're gonna get started talking about some
other injuries and deaths that could happen, especially in the
summertime because of the warmer weather. Back in twenty twenty two,
I made a post in the grocery room that was
titled assault with a Deadly Weapon, and I started off
the post by saying to the grocerom members, if I
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said to you guys, what is considered a deadly weapon,
you would probably say a gun or a knife. But
I said, what if I told you something silly like
umbrellas hurt, they injure or kill people. Three ty thousand
injuries or deaths a year caused by beach umbrellas.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
That's insanely high.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
It is insanely high, and luckily there's not that many deaths.
Most of them are just injuries. But we there was
a case that I was taught. The reason that I
made this post was back in two thousand and two,
twenty two, there was a sixty three year old woman
in South Carolina who died because a beach umbrella impaled
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through her chest. And when I was looking into it,
I could I was shocked too to see how many
injuries were caused by them. But you're essentially have a
weapon that is a steal or a metal rod that
either has a point at the end of it or
a corkscrew attached to a parachute. So you're making essentially
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a harpoon. If a big gust of wing comes through
and grabs the umbrella and it acts like a spear
and it goes right through a person, it impales them
and and it kid Really it killed this woman. It
went through her freaking heart back in twenty twenty two.
And now we hear of a case that happened this week. Well,
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at least this one wasn't as bad as that. So
in Asberry Park on Wednesday, this young lifeguard who's only
nineteen or twenty years old, she was setting up the
umbrella at her station, and according to the witnesses, she
was on the top step of the bench and as
she was holding the umbrella like you were saying, a
giant gust of wind comes through, knocks her off balance
and brings the umbrella down with her, which impaled her
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through her armpit. It's so scary because your armpit has
a major artery that comes off of your aorda. That's
called the axillary artery, and it's a big thick artery.
If that had either torn or severed that artery, she
could have died right there. Because you think about it,
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if you get an injury on your armor your leg.
The first thing that they would say is to tourniquate
your arm, the upper part of your armor leg, but
at your armpit it like you can't really TURNI quit
the chest like that as well to compress the blood
from coming out, and it's coming right off of the artery,
so which just every single time your heart beats, just
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more and more blood is going to start pouring out
of that wound. And it would be very difficult to
get somebody to the hospital quick enough to stop a
bleed like that. And she's lucky it only went through
her muscle and it missed any major artery.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I mean, in this case, she was conscious the entire time,
which how horrific must that have been. Then the other
probably hurt like a bitch, honestly. So then my next
question is that other lifeguards were helping her until the
emergency workers got there, So like, did they make everybody
get out of the ocean because he was monitoring the
people's swimming.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I'm not sure, honestly. And another thing I don't think
that I read in the article was I think it's
important in situations like that, so if it went through her,
it's important to leave it there.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
So they did leave it in there. Okay, so they
had to cut it down because I mean, think of
they can't transler to something of the whole umbrella sticking
out of her and her body. You know. Yeah, Well, I.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Have another case in the gross room too that says
just screaming in the rain. That one is about an
umbrella impelling someone to this time, it's actually just a
normal umbrella you would think about using in the rain.
But it's the same, it's the same theory. There's there's
a lot of sharp metal parts, and that happened to
this guy that it went through his neck, crazy right,
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and and the same thing. They just cut off part
of it just so they could transfer him to the hospital.
But the reason, so let's say, for instance, that this
in this case that we're talking about, this young woman,
it went through her her armpit and it had let's
say it did sever or it nicked, or it was
compressing on her axillary artery. If the lifeguards are there,
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we're see first responders had pulled it out at the scene,
they could have dislodged that it was let's say that
the rod was pushing in on the vessel or it
was actually plugging up the hole that it created. If
they pulled that out, it would have just been it
could have just been a leak of blood coming out.
And that's why they tell you to leave it in
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place until it get they get to the hospital and
they could do imaging to see exactly what is happening
inside of the arm, to see if any blood vessels,
and that that's exactly what they did. So they checked
and they saw that she didn't have any major blood vessels.
There's also concern because you have big nerves there as well,
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so she could have problems with her arm. But it's
I mean, she said it only went through her muscle.
I don't even understand how she got that lucky, But
what a crazy story, right, And people just don't think
about it. But when you go to the beach, there's
there's umbrellas every where. It's just something you don't think about.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well, that's why they're stressing the importance of making sure
they're way down properly, because this could be worse, as
we see in other stories we've covered.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, I don't really know how how you prevent it, honestly,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I still think it's like such a freak accident. Even
if you're doing the right thing. Because how many umbrellas
like get knocked over or fly out, I feel.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Like you hardly three thousand of them hurt people every year.
That's a lot, I know, but.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It is a lot. But in the grand scheme of
how many are on the beach all over, is it
just in the United States or around the world, Because
I feel like in the United States alone, that could
be a low statistic for how many beaches there are.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, it is, but it's still significant in my opinion,
It's significant enough to just take into consideration, and I
just think that a lot of people don't think about it. No,
But let's move on to another incident at a beach,
this time in Florida. So this couple was on their
honeymoon and while the husband was standing in ankle deep water,
he was struck by lightning. So this weekend there were
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a lot of reports of injuries caused by lightning at
a beach. This past week there was in South Carolina,
twenty people were injured at a beach that were struck
by lightning. They luckily none of them had any fatal injuries.
But this guy was only twenty nine years old. Visiting
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Nu Smyrna Beach for his honeymoon. And we talk about
this sometimes in the grosser room, like when you're from
one part of the country or the world and you
visit another country, part of the country or world, and
you're not used to certain things that happened there, whether
it's the weather or the terrain or the animals that
live there. And I'm just wondering. Obviously, I know in
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Colorado they get thunderstorms and lightning, but they don't get
it like you do in Florida.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I would say we because it's more like tropical. It's
very tropical.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
It's Florida's just you go there, it's so so humid,
and then there's thunderstorms all the time, sometimes multiple times
in a day, and they kind of come through for
ten to fifteen minutes and leave and then the sun
comes back out. And that's a common thing that happens
in Florida. And I'm not one hundred percent sure that
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people really realize how you can get hurt standing in
the ocean like that. That's why they always say if
you are at the beach or you're at a pool,
and any time you hear thunder you should automatically get
out of the water no matter what, even if you
think it's far away. Because in this case, the cut
while the surviving wife was saying that she thought that
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the storm was miles away from the shore and they
probably hurt and even maybe saw the lightning but thought
it was far away, and it turns out that it wasn't.
And when you're in water, you're just at such a
higher risk of having serious injury or death from a
lightning strike.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Well, did you see in the article that two other
people at a golf club got struck by lightning too,
but it said neither of them were hospitalized. I'd be like,
I don't know, I need you to look at everything.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, I would want to. I would want to just
because it could cause a cardiac arrhythmia, and that it
just scares you. That's that makes your heartbeat abnormals. It's
estimated that there's two thousand deaths a year from lightning strikes,
and we do hear about them all the time. But
just think about those twenty people that were on the
beach this weekend that were treated. They were either treated
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at the scene or at the hospital, but didn't die
or have serious injuries, like, could you think about telling
people that you survived if someone told you they got
struck by lightning? Would you even believe them?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It's just you'd be like, Okay, sure you did, no
because I mean, it's kind of outrageous and it's rare,
and I think it depends on the person telling you too.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
But one cool thing about lightning strikes, probably not cool
for the victims or the patients that have experienced a
lightning strike, but in pathology we have something called a
Lichenberg figure. Have you ever seen that when a person,
like in the gross room or something. If I've posted
it when a person gets struck by lightning, I don't
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think I've ever seen it. It's really cool looking. You
should look at the posts in the gross room about it.
It looks like this fern like pattern on the skin.
That is, it's a superficial burn that appears within an
hour after someone gets struck by lightning. But there's people, obviously,
people who die get them, but there's also people who
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survive that get them too. It almost looks like do
you ever look at a fossil or something that has
an imprint of a fern leaf on it? It just
kind of has that look to it. It's just really
interesting looking. And they go away. They're not permit. They
go away within a day or two after a person
struck by lightning. But that is definitely a tell tale
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sign that someone truly he was struck by lightning.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, that's cool. I mean obviously, like you said, not
cool for them, very struck.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
But it just it just looks very it's it's so
striking and on some people it's it's very very obvious,
and and it's very specific to lightning strikes, like there's
nothing else that causes that, and it's it's really really cool.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
All right, let's move on to this next story. In China,
a sixty four year old man went to the doctor
after feeling an odd sensation in his stomach, only for
them to find a toothbrush lodged in his intestines that
he swallowed fifty two years beforehand.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yes, so he just starts telling them, you know, and doctors, seriously,
gi doctors especially see the strangest things. But obviously they're like, okay,
so you're having all of these problems. We did an endoscopy.
We found a toothbrush in your small intestine that was
about seventeen centimeter or seven inches in length, so pretty long,
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so long, so long, right, and you know how did
this get there? And he's like, oh, yeah, when I
was twelve years old, I swallowed it and I didn't
want to get in trouble and I figured it would
dissolve and it just hasn't caused me any problems until today.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It's so nuts, right, How could you even remember something
like that so long ago? I mean, all right, let's
put it into a perspective.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yes, can you get old? Doesn't mean you forget like
your life. Yeah, I mean when when you're twelve you remember.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Stuff like that. No, I'm saying, like, yesterday, you know
something you think you would remember. I texted momm and said,
what was your wedding song? Fifty years ago? She said,
I don't know it? Oh my god? Do you forget?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
So? I thought it was I thought it was Elvis.
Are you lonesome tonight?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
She said? I said, do you remember your wedding saga?
Is she repect?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I feel like it was that. I don't know anyway.
I'm just saying like that was fifty years ago and
she can't even remember something like that. On the best
day of her life, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Well, the guy probably didn't think much of it until
they were like was because listen, like I don't care
who you are. At some point, if a toothbrush went
into your mouth and you swallowed it, it would trigger
a memory. Like that's not something that happens every day.
So the doctor said, Hi, was there any time that
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you ingested this toothbrush? And he's like, oh, yeah, there
was this time when I was a kid. It's so
lucky that didn't cause worse problems. It is, And it's
and really and think about this, like just thinking about
being a twelve year old boy swallowing a seven centimeter
just a toothbrush, I mean, or an inch toothbrush. Yeah,
like seventeen centimeter toothbrush.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
It's it's just like.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Seems like not an easy thing to do. But it
could have been something like he was doing a bet
with a friend or something. Well, didn't we see this
before where a person swallowed a toothbrush, but it was
because they were sticking it down their throat for a
needing descy. Yet a lot of times we get linear
objects like that that people are you because, especially if
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they have a history of bolimia and they lose their
gag reflex. They use longer objects to try to make
themselves throw up. I've gotten lots of different farm bodies
in the lab pens butter knives things that are very
long that people do, so yeah, that's definitely possibility, but
(28:23):
I don't think with a twelve year old boy. It
was probably more just horsing around doing a bet or
something like that. But one of the obviously when you
swallow something that's long like that, even though a toothbrush
isn't sharp, so it's not like swallowing a knife, it
has blunt, smoother, plastic edges. But concerns would be if
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it didn't stay straight, which especially wouldn't happen as it
was going through the curvy GI track, that it could
just go sideways and kind of puncture right through the
intestine wall, which would cause a huge problem. So this
somehow just got lodged in there in the wall and
just made a home there for multiple years until it
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started causing problems all these years later, which it's just
so amazing how the human body works like that.
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All right, I don't even know where to start with
this next case, Maration, start talking about it, because I
still don't really know what's happening. All right, So over
the weekend, this wedding was supposed to take place, I
guess before the park opened in Disneyland Paris, so they
said it was booked at the very last minute. And
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of course because of that and it's Disney, it costs
a bunch of money. We'll get more into the numbers later.
But the guests start piling in for this wedding, so
over three hundred people before the park opens, and then
the wedding is starting to go ahead, and then the
staff at Disneyland realizes that the bride is a nine
year old girl. Why, like, so this guy was trying
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to marry a child or what. I don't understand, like
what was happening.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
So they're they're seeing this wedding getting set up, and
then they see this little girl in a wedding dress
and they said they had she had these five inch
heels taped to her. I don't know what that means,
but she seemed very scared and confused. So the Disneyland
staff ended up calling the police, and then four people
got arrested in this case. So the main person that
got arrested in this case was a thirty thirty nine
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year old man from the UK who was set to
be the groom, so we'll talk a little bit about
him later. Her mother, and then two other people who
said they were hired to play the little girl's sister
and father. So what we've learned from this is basically
all these people were hired as last minute extras for
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this stunt. They're saying they're trying to do. So the
groom who was arrested trying to say that he hired
all these people to do this stunt mock wedding to
this child. But it turns out he's this convicted sex offender.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
So was he really just trying what was what was
the mock wedding for? Like what would be the point
of it? Was he trying to make a viral video?
Like what would be the point of it?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
All right, so this is what's really weird. So he's
saying it's this mock video. But this guy is a
is a convicted pedophile since twenty sixteen, and he has
this weird history of doing these social media stunts in
public to try to recruit children. So I think this
was part of that.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Here's the kid.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I'm not sure who the child is, so.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
It's not anyone that he knows. He like hired these people.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
He's from the UK and the girl is Ukrainian, so
I'm not sure how they ended up blinking or if
the mother was.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Well, she got arrested right, so clearly she had something
to do with it. If she was arrested.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But like all the extras at this wedding, was this
mother under the interpretation this was like an acting job
for her child, or was she trying to traffic the kid?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I don't know, because the news reports that I read
it seems like it this whole thing was some kind
of a stunt. And even though the guy was a
convicted sex offender, it seems as if they're trying to
say that the girl wasn't hurt at all, the child
wasn't hurt. But I'm just kind of like, well, how
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do you know that? But how do you even not?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
How do you know that? Like they had to give
her a sexual assault exam?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, but how do how do you know? I understand
that the assault exam could be negative, but how do
you know one hundred percent that that's that nothing inappropriate
happened because children at are nine years old might not
even realize something or might not feel comfortable talking about
something that happened to them.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
All right, So this guy who was arrested, he was
the groom, so he was originally found guilty of sexual
activity with two fifteen year olds in twenty sixteen. So
then this according to BBC reporting. So then in twenty
twenty three, he hired hundreds of children to act as
his fawning fans at a fake film premiere in London.
Some of them were as young as six years old.
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Then last summer he was seen giving gifts to children
outside dance auditions for another production. Two months later, he
then filmed himself nude in public. And now we fast
forward to this stunt where he's paying one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars to have this quote unquote mock wedding
to a child. So one thing to BBC was saying
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was that they're unsure of how he's getting funding for
all of these stunts he's doing. But it's concerning that
he's a convicted sex offender and he's doing all these
social media stunts to film and recruit children to be
in his presence.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Well, it's clear because he's getting money for making I
mean that's what I would think, that he's getting lots
of views and that's why he's getting money like that.
And listen, like there's like a whole entire black market.
It might not even be public social media. There's a
black market for this weird kind of child child pornography
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or exploitation of children videos like this, So that's probably
he's probably selling the videos on the dark web or something.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
He was putting them on YouTube and his page had
twelve million subscribers and millions of views. Oh that's cool.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, that's really cool, especially the way that YouTube, especially
censors a shit out of so many people. That's really
interesting that they didn't because it's not it's not straight
out porn. That's why. It's because he's whatever he's doing,
he's doing out in the open with with it looking
more synth, then it is probably Yeah, And they're saying
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that a video he took on it that he uploaded
on a different channel included secretly film footage of one
of the fifteen year old victims that he was convicted
of exploiting. So this guy has clearly been doing this
for years. This goes to my general question all the time,
why are these people walking amongst us? Clearly he's up
to no good doing this. I guess technically he's not
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doing anything illegal, but it's not for good, No, it's not.
And I guess I'm just curious why the mom got arrested.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Now, Well, do you think because arrested everybody because they
thought it was a real Like I truly could see.
I don't know, I'm saying I could see a scenario
in which because all these other extras were hired, that
maybe she thought it was some weird acting job or
something for the kid and didn't realize till she showed
up what was going on. I also wouldn't be obviously
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he couldn't legally marry her, but I wouldn't be surprised
if he was trying to.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Well, I don't really know what the laws are in Paris,
I would say probably not, but in some countries that happens, yes,
So I don't know. I don't know anything about this.
I just think I can't even believe what it would
be like to be an employee there and just have
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to even experience this. So many of them were probably
horrified and shocked and just couldn't even believe what their
eyes were seeing. And I can't imagine what the employees
were going through behind the scenes there, and this kid too.
It's just so one should get in trouble even if
they weren't doing anything, because it's like, why are you
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using a child for that?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
It's just gross he's thirty nine years old. And the
older man that was arrested that was hired to play
her father said he didn't know what was going on
until he showed up there and then saw her. Basically,
so the only two people that remained in custody were
the thirty nine year old pedophile and the woman that
said she was hired to play the bride's sister. But
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I'm like, were they working together to do something weird?
It's this is a very unusual story, and where is
he getting all this money?
Speaker 1 (38:16):
But where why would he think did he actually think
that he was going to be able to pull off
this stunt and to film it?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah? Probably?
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Why would you think that anybody would just be like okay, yeah, yeah,
because they're trying to be like we're making a viral
TikTok video.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
It's not real. But like then when you start looking
in his history and see he's a pedophile and he's
doing all of these other public events recruiting children, You're like, well,
you were clearly up to no good, even if you
technically weren't doing anything illegal.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, I just I don't think. I don't know in
what world that he would have thought that anybody would
have just sat back at any venue and been okay
watching a grown man marry a child. It's it's very
it's it's just that's why. To me, I'm just like,
you're putting out all this money to do this stunt.
I just don't know in what world he thought the
stunt would have got pulled off.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So they were able to charge him with fraud, breach
of trust, money laundering, and identity theft. I don't know
if they could charge him for the wedding because nothing
technically occurred, but at least they got him on something,
so they're holding Did you mention that he was wearing
a disguise? Oh no, I totally forget this. So initially
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it was reported that he was twenty two years old,
and then it came out that he had a disguise
on his face to make his appearance different.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, so they might he was giving another idea of
someone else that was younger, because he had someone do
his makeup so he looked younk.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
The whole story is so bizarre, and it just I
still doesn't me fear.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, it makes me fear. I just don't really understand.
I don't really understand.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
What the point was.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I mean, the point was that he's a pedal got
their money. Since the wedding didn't go on, that was
somebody videoing this up until the point where they called
the police and could they use that footage for a
YouTube video?
Speaker 2 (40:06):
The point of it was he was recruiting children to
make a weird viral video for other pedophiles to view
on his YouTube channel.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Well that's why I'm curious if they took footage up
until that point and if they're legally allowed to use
that footage, because obviously if they upload that at some point,
then people are gonna want to see it now, especially
because this story's been all over the world on the
news and now everybody wants to see what was happening, right,
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So he.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Would police use the police should not release the footage. Also,
her mother's still not under arrest, so I don't think
she did anything wrong because wouldn't she be charged if
they could prove.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I who knows in this day and age, like what's happening.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I guess if his YouTube had twelve million subscribers, then
that's how he was getting the money, because.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
That's all exactly that is a lot. That's what I'm
saying like he was getting it through something.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
So all right, So let's talk about this cruise story,
another disturbing one beyond the poop cruise. So Netflix has
another documentary coming out in a couple of weeks about
this woman, Amy Bradley, who disappeared on a royal cruise
in nineteen ninety eight. We were just on a royal
cruise when Amy was twenty three. Not feel like royalty.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
It's like kind of truy.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
It definitely didn't feel like royalty. Had a great time,
momm don't get bad at this, okay. So when Amy
was twenty three, she was on a seven day cruise
with her family. They left on March twenty first. Their
cruise was departing from Puerto Rico. Two days later. It
was set to arrive in Karraco and then go on
to other destinations. So a couple of days into the trip,
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the boat is cruising between two ports and she goes
to this disco with her brother, and then the next
morning nobody could find her. They did an extensive search
of the ship, nobody saw where she was. Somebody said
they might have seen her go to the top deck.
Another person said they might have seen her with an
unidentified crew member, but it was never confirmed that it
was her. And then of course there was the thought
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that she fell overboard, but her family is adamant that
she is alive.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Well, just being on the cruise and stuff. What do
you think. Well, one of the things you should mention
too is that when they were arriving, the family begged
the cruise not to put down the gate to let
people off until they found her, and the cruise was like, no,
we're not interrupting this trip right now, which from the
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parents perspective is like I keep thinking about the parents perspective,
imagine being because when you're on a cruise, you're trapped
no matter like you're trapped and you don't want to
get off the boat because she went missing on the
boat and get a flight to go somewhere because you
want to stay where she was. But at the same time,
you're trapped on you can't stop the vacation for every
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single other person that's on the cruise because this girl's missing.
I don't I don't know what you do in this situation,
but just saying from us getting off at Bermuda and
getting back on the ship, they checked our ID three times.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Well they do, now this was nineteen ninety eight, but
you don't.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
But you don't think that they did that.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
I don't. I think I think that they.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Will technology they have now, yeah, possibly, but they so
I guess that could be a consideration because now I'm
just like, like, what we just experienced right now, there's
absolutely no way that somebody was getting off of the
ship without their ID because of the way that they
(43:38):
checked so many times. We had to do ID and
and the room key for all of us every single time,
three different stops.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
They might have checked your ID to get on and
off the ship, but they didn't have a computer system
where they were logging every single passenger that got on
and off in nineteen ninety eight. It was probably handwritten
and they're I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
That's I don't know if I would say that in
nineteen ninety eight, it wasn't that. It wasn't like the
seventies or something.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, but think of the technology they had on the ship,
because you need specialty. It's not the same that's like
on land. So to have advancements in nineteen ninety eight,
to have a computer system operating like that on a boat.
It doesn't seem possible to me back then.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Well regardless, I mean they were I'm sure that they
were checking though, and they didn't see her getting off
the boat.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Well, they might not have had cameras back then either
on the boat. That's what the documentary is going to
go through, regardless, because if they had on the boat,
ninety eight was like the seven, there was definitely lots
of they didn't. There wasn't really like strong internet presence,
but they definitely had. It's not like the sixties where
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you could just like get away, which like it existed.
But if they had CCTV on the ship, why don't
they know where she is? No, I don't mean CCTV.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
I'm just saying, like the people that were letting the
people off of the boat knew that there was a
girl missing, and they were checking people's IDs as they
were getting off.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
I think the people getting off is less of a
concern as to her getting off the boat and maybe
somebody that did something to her on the boat in
my opinion, But when we were just on the boat.
I've been very critical on the past about how do
people fall overboard on these cruise ships, But I could
see it happening now, because on some of the decks
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the railings are pretty low that if you really lost
your balance and you're like a taller person, you could
certainly go over valeatly.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Gabe and I went to look at the sunset, not
last night, the night before that, and it was the
whole entire rim of the top of the ship. The
point of the ship was. It wasn't even like that
glass wall. It just was bars that a child could
(45:59):
ease go through, a person could easily climb over, a
person could be drunk and fall over. I thought the
same exact thing as you, honestly, Like I was like,
there was multiple points, you know how you kept telling
me not to lean against that one area because it
went it was a gate that opened.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
At some point. Well, I didn't even think about that,
but one night Louie and Ricky were playing shuffleboard on
the deck and I went to look over and Ricky
was like, please move. That's the door, not the railing.
And obviously it's swung backwards onto the boat. But you
never know, like if you lose your balance, if the
ship is rough seat, you don't know like I could
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I now that I've been on there could see easily
how people do fall overboard. But I'm interesting what this
documentary is going to reveal about why they think that's
not a possibility in this case, because the FBI is
also kind of agreeing with the family that she might
be alive.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Yeah, I want to say it too, because my first
thought is just like she she either jumped or fell overboard,
because if they checked, if they did check the whole ship,
then I mean, I just think in a situation like
we just had, that it would be it would be
very impossible for something like that to happen. Because they
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even even Gabe and I were saying this, like let's
say we were single and you're on the cruise and
you go to Bermuda and you go on the island
and you like meet someone and you want to bring
them back to your room, Like you can't do that, No,
you can't.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
It's it.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
I mean, I'm sure there's ways to maybe I don't know,
but like it's kind of impossible to get people on
the boat just because of the security to get onto
the boat. You can't just like have a one night
stand with someone that's not on the ship with you,
so cause it's not like bringing them back to a
regular hotel room, you know. But like you said, if
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they didn't have the proper I mean maybe they check
like that now because of cases like this, especially because
we were on the same cruise liner, right, But like
back in the day, did they just like go to
port and just like let people come come and go
as they please, like that could have been.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah, I really believe that's a possibility.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
But like just the crews that we just went on,
like they only there's only one spot where they let
people off. So if I would think that if that
happened on the one we were just at all the
employees there would know that there was a missing person
to be looking for them exiting.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
But well they were looking you say, you know, looking
for somebody on the ship because there was police on
the boat with a picture of a woman looking around.
So it was like did she commit a crime or
did she fall overboard? And they're trying to see if
she's somewhere what for us? Yeah, I told you that
the other night that there were cops on the boat.
There there are security and police on the boat, but
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a couple times I saw them walking around holding a
picture of a woman and they were like looking in
all the rooms.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Really, Yes, Oh, I didn't know that were were. I
had a whole conversation with you about it at dinner.
You definitely didn't because I wasn't. I wasn't listening.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
You were tuned out, being so in love with cruising
that you can't wait to go on your next one.
I'm interested to see what this has to say, because
I think if we did have a tracking system like
we had coming on and off the ship, and they
had a lot of security, then obviously there wouldn't be
as many questions in my true crime mind. Is it
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possible that a crew member did something to her and
knew where to like store her body or get rid
of her or something? That's interesting to think about when
you're on this.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Cruise because obviously I don't do the drink package. Do
they do they monitor how much you're drinking? No? Yeah,
I mean they found your car, but are they gonna
cut you off? I can't even believe that there's not
more things that happen with all of the drinking that's
going on. I just I just can't, like, especially like
fall over that I don't know. It's just kind of
(50:02):
nuts to me.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
This is something I couldn't believe about the Poop Cruise
documentary because they said at some point when the ship
was down, they decided to do an open bar and
give everybody drinks. So I'm like, okay, so you don't
have working bathrooms at all, You're telling people to piss
in the shower over the edge of the boat, and
then you're gonna give everybody diuretics or things that are
gonna make them vomit. It didn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
No, it makes sense because they were trying to keep
people happy, so they didn't get as many lawsuits when
they got back.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Maybe, oh, to answer a question about that. Apparently, so
this maritime lawyer was like all over this as the
news coverage was breaking, And apparently they did settle some
lawsuits and they did give everybody a refund and then
like a five hundred dollars voucher and a free cruise,
like thanks. I was just stranded for four days. But
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apparently in the disclosure of their ticket they agreed that
the cruise ship was not responsible for like anything happening.
The way they had it word it was so insane.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Well, I could see, because you can't prevent something like
a fire or something. But I think that when they
found that the crews had six generators and only four
of them were working, like negligence things like that, then
that's when you would be able to sue because they
didn't have all of the proper things to prevent a
catastrophe like that from happening.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
If I'm remembering correctly, it was worded in a way
that was basically like, we don't have to guarantee that
the boat is safe. It was it was the lawyer
was like, this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Yeah, but I mean, this is what happens when you
sign this shit, like who the hell knows?
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'm gonna be watching this. I'm interested
to see what they have to say. I think the
most obvious explanation is she possibly fell overboard, especially if
she had been drinking or something. But I mean, if
the family and the FBI are thinking there's a possibility
she's alive, I'm curious to see what evidence they have
to support that.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
All right, let's get into this interesting case about this
kidney transplant.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
So, two months after getting a kidney transplant, the sixty
one year old man was rested the hospital in distress,
So initially I would have thought that maybe his body
was rejecting the organ or something, but that's not what
they found.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
No. So, typically when a person gets an organ transplant,
the most common things that you're concerned about are an
infection right afterwards, just from the surgical procedure itself, and
then of course rejection that could happen soon after or
even months or years after the organ is transplanted. So
(52:38):
because of rejection, your body doesn't recognize a foreign object.
So even if you put in breastplants or breast implants,
or any foreign object into the body, your body normally
your immune system is like, this isn't supposed to be
here and attacks it. So when you get a transplant,
you get put on certain medications that cause your organ
(53:01):
not to be attacked by your immune system, so it
suppresses or makes your immune system not work great. And
when you're on drugs like that, then you're at an
increased risk of getting other kinds of infections because your
body doesn't recognize them easily as foreign and attack them
like they normally would because you're on these drugs that
(53:24):
are making your immune system chill out, so he they
didn't really know what was going on with him because
when he presented, as Maria was saying, like she said, oh,
I would have thought he was rejecting the organ, but
he wasn't presenting with the typical symptoms that you would
see in a person that was rejecting an organ. So
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they did a bunch of blood work and all of
these tests, and they found something that was very unusual,
which was that he had a lot of eosinophils in
his blood. And eosinophils are red blood cells, and they're
called eosinophils because eosin is a red color, and it
just means that they love red. That's what ysenophil means.
And under the microscope, if you got blood work, or
(54:08):
I got blood work, most people get blood work, you'll
see a few of these cells scattered throughout the blood,
but there's not really that many of them. Whenever you
see a patient that has high eosinophils, you automatically think
that they're having either a really bad allergic reaction to
something or that they have a parasite. That's a common
thing that you see there as well. So they were
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just thinking about any kind of weird thing that this
patient could have got because they were on these drugs
that were chilling out their immune system, so they wouldn't
reject the organ and they couldn't really come up with
anything because they also give you medications so you don't
get these infections. They really try to keep you like
drugged up so your body handles this transplant. And he
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also had this really weird rash. So when they worked
him up in every they finally figured out that he
had a parasitic worm infection called strong eloidies. So what
was really interesting is that because this isn't common to
get in America, they had tested the blood from the donor.
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They called the donor organization and were like, hey, did
this guy have strong elodies infection that gave the kit
that the kidney came from, And they had said no,
But then they tested his blood and they found out
that he had antibodies against that that organism, that parasite.
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So whenever you get an infection we can even talk
about this with something like COVID or anything like that,
when your body sees something as a new infection, it
creates something called antibodies. So next time you're exposed to it.
Your immune system will recognize these antibodies and know that
your body has seen it before. So the donor of
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this kidney had these antibodies, which means that that person
had a strong elodes infection. At some point, they tested
the person that was the recipient of the kidney and
found out that he did not have these antibodies for
strong eloides, which means only one thing, that he got
strong aloides parasite from the kidney donation. That's how they
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figured out that that was the case. Then they looked
into it and the guy, you know, he was from
the Caribbean and he had it, and that's what happened.
And he also had been a donor of two kidneys.
So another patient got his other kidney and that patient
also got sick with strong aloides, a parasitic infection as well.
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It's really really crazy and rare that this happened, and
luckily both of these people survived because normally, if a
person got that infection, it wouldn't be that bad, but
in this case, it traveled to this guy's lungs, it
could travel to the brain. They're worms, by the way.
It's really disturbing and when they buy up. See this
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weird rash this guy had on his skin, it ended
up being in his skin as well. So yeah, it's
really it's really really gross and disturbing and to think
that you can get up like all of the things.
So sometimes there's been cases of people getting cancer from
organs that were donated, but a parasite is just so nasty.
And they were able to treat both of the people
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that got both of this guy's kidneys and they lived.
But now they are suggesting that people are getting screened
from this, especially when they're from high risk regions like
the Caribbean where the strong aloitis parasite is more common.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Yeah, I mean they did definitely need to be checking
because this would have been preventable. So if they checked beforehand,
he wouldn't have been an eligible donor.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
No. No, I mean if a person has an active
infection like something like this, especially and like think about well,
especially when they're giving patients drugs to make their immune
system not work, is great, and really their main goal
is that they just want to make sure that not
only does the patient not reject the organ, but they
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also don't get a weird infection because that's just going
to halt the healing, the healing from the transplant, and
ultimately they want you to get the transplant, not reject it,
and heal so you could go on to have a
normal life. And they don't want to introduce things like
cancer obviously, or weird parasitic infections. It's just something that
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you don't even think of, and it's it's kind of
rare that it happened, but it's bizarre.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
Let's get into our last story. A boil advisory has
been issued for multiple areas in Ohio after the body
of a dead worker was found inside a water tank.
That is so gross, all right, it is gross, but
like one of our best friends works and works in
a lot of water towers, and it's not uncommon that
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like dead animals are found in them.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
It's not no I'd want to know about that. Well,
so listen, they found so this guy was working the
night shift. He was working the night before, which was
seven pm to seven am, and I guess whoever showed
up to take over after him couldn't find him. And
then an hour later they found him floating face down
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in the water tank. But he still had on his
harness and he had safety straps and everything attached. So
as far as how the guy ended up in the water,
I don't know if the safety harness or the straps failed,
or if he had a heart attack and fell in
or whatever happened. I'm assuming that those straps are supposed
to be preventing a person from falling in the water accidentally,
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so he fell in. And so we don't know how
when this guy died, right because he was working from
seven pm the night before, so we haven't heard any
more information about his cause of death or how decomposed
he was, so he could have been in there up
to twelve hours prior to his body getting found.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
This doesn't sound right that you would be working a
shift like this alone.
Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
I don't know how it works, but I don't see
this happens sometimes though that you have, Like we had
a situation once in the hospital when we were working
that one of the cleaning people that came in on
the weekend was stuck in the elevator for like two
days because she was by herself. Didn't ever phone on her,
nobody knew she was in this back service elevator. Like
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it just happens sometimes where people are by themselves like that,
and I don't know if that's protocol or whatever, but
I don't know. I don't know what happened. The whole
point is, though, is that this so this guy could
have been in the water anywhere from like one hour
to twelve hours. When you die, you start to decompose
right away. And when bacteria in your gi track starts
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multi applying, it starts putting off gas, which creates bloating,
and that's what causes people like this guy was face
down floating in the water. That's what would cause that.
And this bacteria releases gas, and the gas smells terrible.
It smells so bad if you've ever smelled anything decomposing.
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And to think about the smell of that gas and
the fluids leaking from the body inside of water, which
I looked it up. And their average temperature, thank god,
they weren't going through a heat wave like that. We
were here last week when it was like one hundred
and three degrees or whatever. But their high temperature was
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eighty something degrees, which is hot when you're thinking about
water being in a water tower, I mean now, And
it's been like that for weeks in this part of Ohio.
Like when I turn on my hose right now, the
water comes out of it and it's hot like temperature.
It's like if you would put hot water in your house,
so the water could be a higher temperature too, which
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would just accelerate the decomposition of this guy in the
water and that decomposition fluid and the breakdowns of the
body being in the water. And so they're advising the
people that live in the town to boil their water.
That's so it's so nasty, right, Like, think about that
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decomp juice being in water and people being like and
and listen, like, when you boil it, you kill all
of the germs and it's clean to drink, because all water,
if it's not either treated in a facility or it's boiled,
it has lots of organisms in it. But just the
thought of it is is just it's just gross, right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Yeah, of course it's disgusting. You don't want to think
about the water that you're using for drinking water in
your shower and everything has a decomp juice in it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
So do you know what this As soon as I
heard about this, it reminded me remember there was so
back in twenty twenty one, I wrote a high profile
death to section about this Netflix documentary that was released
called crime Scene The Vanishing at the Cecil Hotel. Do
you remember that her name was Eliza Lamb.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
She was a twenty one year old college student that
was reported missing in this hotel and later found decomposing
in one of the hotel's rooftop water tanks for two
weeks later. Right, So, all these people at the hotel
prior to her body being found were saying that their
water was discolored and it tasted gross when they were
brushing their teeth and stuff. I know, could you imagine that,
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and all that was was like decomp juice mixed with
the drinking water and the water that was coming out
of their shower and stuff. It's just so disgusting.
Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
I would say, this is definitely not the first time
a person has died in a water tank. Especially.
Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
No, it's just so disturbing to think every single time
that you're turning on your water, like you have to
take it out and boil it because there was a
dead body in it. I mean, no, thanks, I would
just be I would just be off of it for
a couple weeks at that point.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah, I'd say, all right, guys, well, it's been fun
this week. So we have the Atlanta Meet and greet
and the Crime and Wine happening just in two weeks.
So the Atlanta Meeting greets on July eleventh. Crime and
Wine at the Georgia Writers' Museum is on the twelfth.
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Speaker 2 (01:05:44):
Thanks
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,
Welcome The Mother Knows Zeth. We have a great show
for you today. We are back from our dreaded cruise,
so we are going to get into all of the
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details of our trip. We're going to get into some
freak accidents that involve injuries and death related to summertime activities.
A man who accidentally swallowed a toothbrush fifty two years
ago and recently started having problems. True crime taking place
at the Happiest Place on Earth. A new Netflix documentary
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talking about an unsolved case involving a woman who disappeared
on a cruise, so that's very relevant to what we
just went through. A guy who received an organ transplant
and got more than just a new kidney, and the
morbid reason why one town is being told to boil
their water. All that and more on Titday's episode. Let's
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get started talking about our experience. The first time we
ever took a cruise.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Oh my god, I'm not gonna lie. When we pulled
up to the boat, I was real stressed out when
I saw and it didn't help that the parking was
such a shit show because it just had everybody's blood
pressure raised.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, the first the first couple of minutes of it,
I guess just approaching I don't know. When we pulled up,
I was like, oh, this is kind of cool, and
I was I was optimistic about it going in. I
was a little upset about the parking situation because it
was kind of as Maria said, it was kind of
a shit show. It was to the point where I
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planned for us to be there an hour early, and
thank god I did, because if we just would have
went according to the time it said to drive there,
would have missed the boat just because of the parking situation.
So but other than that, that was it was pretty
I thought it was pretty cool how easy it was
to really get on and off of the boat. It's
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a nice it was. It was really nice leaving yesterday,
just we it. We were allowed to leave our the
boat at seven forty five and I was home by
a little after nine o'clock, So that was that was awesome.
It was just very quick on, you know, on and
off for the most part. I mean, day one.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Let me rewind a little bit, because like my morning
started off with the night before, I was up until
almost midnight editing the Karen Read episode because it was
so long. It was it was so long, like taking
me forever to edit it, and so I'm really tired.
At end of the morning, my neighbor just casually tells
me and my husband how the guy died in my house,
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which I don't really want to get into. No, you
have to. You can't do that.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I don't let you. She does this all the time
with the kids. She'll say something and give like this
teaser and not give them the full story. Like, now
you have to tell everybody how your neighbor died in
your house. This whole entire show is about is about death,
so you need to tell them exactly what happened.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
All right. So we knew we bought the house off
of the people that built it, like a long time ago,
so it was only owned by one family before. And
we were having a yard sale a couple of years ago,
and a neighbor said she used to be friends with
one of the kids. They had four children, the people
that lived here, so and they're now in their like
fifties and sixties. So at the yard sale, this woman
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said she was friends with one of the sons, but
he died and they don't talk about it, so we
knew one of them had died when they were younger,
so all this time we didn't know how. I tried
looking it up, nothing came up whatever. So my neighbors
across the street have also lived here since like the
neighborhood was built in the sixties, so my husband's always
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talking to the guy. And then it came up that
they had four kids living in the house, and my
neighbor just casually goes, yeah, well one of them died
because he hung himself in the attic doing some sex stuff.
And I'm like, all right, this is how my Saturday
vacation can start.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Which is also really interesting because another one of the
children had been caught up in a huge sex like
a child pornography sting in our area. So like, I
don't know what the hell was going on in that house,
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and I hope you don't find any weird shit in
the walls or anything.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
But I'm like, why are both the sons and this
family such sex pest? Like what was going on in
this family that they I don't know what was going on.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
I just think it's bizarre because your attic isn't somewhere
I would because when you say that somebody killed themselves
hung themselves doing weird sex stuff, to me, that's autoerotic. It'sphyxiation,
That's what I'm thinking. And that's not suicide. That's an
accidental death. So for me, it's like that's for those
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of you who don't know. That's when when a man
is having sex or with himself, or you could do
it with other people too, But in this case, this
guy had put something around his neck to cut off
his oxygen supply to his brain while he was having
an orgasm, because it's it's supposed to be like the
best orgasm ever, and people do it to they do
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it to experience this orgasm. They don't do it to
kill themselves. So but when you're cutting off your carotid arteries,
there's a chance that you can accidentally kill yourself. So
that's what happened. So that's why it's interesting to me
that someone would do that in your attic, because I
don't think when I look at your house, that's not
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like a place that I would want to hang out.
It's not I mean, if he was really killing himself,
then you would say Okay, he did that, but I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
My house is very small. I can't fathom having one
child in this house alone, this very small house for
four children for sure.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
So that's that's what people used to do back in
the day, like kids used to share bedrooms and no,
I know, but what I'm saying is like I could
see him going up there because it would have been
like a hangout zone or whatever. But it's it is
just it is just weird that you know, two of
their kids were doing this naughchy stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
But so this is on my Saturday start. I'm like
pagging the car waiting for Dedie to show up because
we were driving together, and this information comes to late,
truly two minutes before she bod my house. So I'm like, okay,
this is how vacation starting. Now you have a two
hour car ride to Bayone. Then you get there and
the traffic is such a shit show. I mean, our
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ship will fit like what five thousand people. I'm like,
they get forty five thousand people in and out of
Citizens Bank Park almost every day and they can't figure
out the cruise parking. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
It was ridiculous. But overall, we don't need to go
over every single detail of the of the cruise, but
what did like, what did you think of it overall?
Do you think would you go back on one?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
No? I mean I when I was on it, I
was able to dissociate. I thought it was gonna be
really scared of being I don't like boats at all.
I thought it was gonna be really scared of the
open waters. And once it started moving. I was also
terrified of getting seasickness. So once we started moving, I
wasn't I was actively trying not to look out the
window because I was scared I was gonna get seasick.
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And I'm like, what am I going to do for
the next five days if I'm seasick. So once I
started going and we're with everybody, I was totally comfortable
and I liked. We got to Bermuda a couple of
days later. I thought Bermuda was awesome and beautiful. The
beach there was really cool. Everything there was really cool.
I thought the cruise was fine, like I had a
really good time with our family. But I don't think
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I would cruise ever again, because I just think it's
a giant scam.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
I that was a turnoff to me was all of
the unknown charges and the sliminess of it was just
to turn off. But that's I guess that's to be
expected in a situation like that. I really liked I
really really liked the boat part of it, and the
sunsets and the water, and we had a balcony and
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we left the door open all night when we were
sleeping and you could hear the water and it was
just so still and awesome at night and pitch dark,
and all of that was was really really cool. So
I liked that whole part of it, but it was
too like people lee for me, to way too many
people and just the gross Like if it didn't have
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a casino, if it didn't have people smoking in the
only part of the shade next to the pool, if
it's you know, like there's certain things, then I would
be like, okay, a little bit more open minded to
doing it. And I just didn't. I didn't really like
the food situation. It's it's weird for me to say
that because they said it was like all you can
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eat food, and.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Well, I think for drink. I think for us it
sucked because of the gluten problem, because you know, before
I had the gluten intolerance. I would eat chicken fingers
and all that stuff and be totally fine with eating
stuff like that. But when you're like us and you
have this restriction, they really did not have a lot
of gluten free options and it was hard to eat anything,
and the things we could eat were not particularly great.
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So it's having a hard time with that.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I just think that what I didn't like about it was,
for example, we travel a lot and when we're on
when we go to a hotel, will always stop at
like a convenience store and just get some snacks and
bring back the food to the hotel and eat in
the room. And because we just will like watch Shark
Tankathon or something like that at started in nine o'clock
or whatever, and this it was just like, really it
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it was hard to bring food back to your room.
There was no refrigerator in the room. There was a cooler,
which is not a refrigerator. If you wanted to drink,
you had to go to a restaurant to get it.
Like I just would have liked vending machines. I don't
know whatever, but overall, I don't know, A part of
me is like it was better the parts of it
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that I was thinking were going to be good ended
up being way better than I thought it was going
to be. And I liked that you could walk around
the ship and they kind of let you go wherever
you wanted to go, which we'll get into later with
one of our stories that might explain what happened to
that woman that went missing. But I like that We
went to different areas of the boats multiple times and
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there was no people around, so it was easy to
kind of get privacy considering that there were that many
people on the boat. So I'd be open to going
on one again if it wasn't that one. There has
to be different ones that because to me, it was
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like I've always said this, I hate go I've hated
my whole entire life a party atmosphere and loud music
and drinking and cigarette smoke and that whole party atmosphere.
It I hate it. There has to be other.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
People like me. Not the place for you. It is
not you, but there has to.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Be lots of people like me that that aren't into
that as well. It can't be every single cruise.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Is like that. Yeah, but that's like the point of
going on a cruise because it's like a party on
the ocean. You're not a party person. So it's like
my husband thrived on the boat. Everything it was like
it was.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Ricky's dream come true. And Maria was just like, yeah,
this is it, so enjoy it because we're never coming back.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Also, not to brag, but I won bingo one day
and they were just they were they were like trying
to keep the money. So this was what the last
the last because the technically the last day we got
off the boat at seven thirty in the morning, So
the day before I won bingo, and then at the
casino when you win, you get the money right there.
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And then with the bingo, they were like you could
come to the desk after midnight and collect it or
we'll roll it over in your account. And I'm like, no,
this is not going towards another cruise, like I'm getting
the cash and it was like this whole thing. It
was so ridiculous. Things like that I really did not appreciate.
I thought, overall, it was a nice time. We had
a really good time with the family. I didn't get seasick,
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except the one night in the middle of the night
I woke up because in the rooms you could really
feel the boat moving, and now that we're off the boat,
my balance is totally off.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Like I keep getting Cha said that yesterday too. She's like,
is it weird that I feel like I'm still moving?
And I was like, no, that's I was like, you know,
when you go on a triabmill and you get off
of it, you like still feel It's probably.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I will say for our whole family though, that has
no problem all discussing our poop problems. The motion was
good for the bells. Everybody didn't pooped from times the
entire time. Yeah, but even I was also worried, you know,
because they say, like cruise ships, a lot of people
get sick. I mean definitely the last day at Bengo,
everybody was coughing, and I was like, this is just great.
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But I thought that.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
It was fine. Yeah, it was fine. We had no
there were no issues with at least that we know
of people getting sick or any kind of mechanical issues.
So it was yeah, I mean I thought it was
it was good for that means part.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
So last night when we got home, I did watch
the Poop Cruise finally, because we had talked about it
almost a week ago or I guess a week ago
we recorded that episode, so we hadn't seen it yet,
and it was actually so much worse. And I feel
like we talked about in the story, everybody was saying
at like five o'clock in the morning, they were asleep
and the alarm started going off. So a lot of
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people are hungover and confused, and they were full blown
in the middle of the gulf at that point. And
then it just took days and the poop didn't start
actually coming into the hallways and going down the walls
until the tugboats got there and started towing them, because
I guess from the motion from the toe that's when
the ship started to go inside the side. Oh but
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it was such a nightmare. But yeah, I think every
reached why. I mean, I was so scared watching it
because we had just been on it and so I
had the exact experience and that would have been a nightmare.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Okay, So let's get started. Since we've been talking about
cruises and everything, We're gonna get started talking about some
other injuries and deaths that could happen, especially in the
summertime because of the warmer weather. Back in twenty twenty two,
I made a post in the grocery room that was
titled assault with a Deadly Weapon, and I started off
the post by saying to the grocerom members, if I
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said to you guys, what is considered a deadly weapon,
you would probably say a gun or a knife. But
I said, what if I told you something silly like
umbrellas hurt, they injure or kill people. Three ty thousand
injuries or deaths a year caused by beach umbrellas.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
That's insanely high.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
It is insanely high, and luckily there's not that many deaths.
Most of them are just injuries. But we there was
a case that I was taught. The reason that I
made this post was back in two thousand and two,
twenty two, there was a sixty three year old woman
in South Carolina who died because a beach umbrella impaled
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through her chest. And when I was looking into it,
I could I was shocked too to see how many
injuries were caused by them. But you're essentially have a
weapon that is a steal or a metal rod that
either has a point at the end of it or
a corkscrew attached to a parachute. So you're making essentially
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a harpoon. If a big gust of wing comes through
and grabs the umbrella and it acts like a spear
and it goes right through a person, it impales them
and and it kid Really it killed this woman. It
went through her freaking heart back in twenty twenty two.
And now we hear of a case that happened this week. Well,
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at least this one wasn't as bad as that. So
in Asberry Park on Wednesday, this young lifeguard who's only
nineteen or twenty years old, she was setting up the
umbrella at her station, and according to the witnesses, she
was on the top step of the bench and as
she was holding the umbrella like you were saying, a
giant gust of wind comes through, knocks her off balance
and brings the umbrella down with her, which impaled her
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through her armpit. It's so scary because your armpit has
a major artery that comes off of your aorda. That's
called the axillary artery, and it's a big thick artery.
If that had either torn or severed that artery, she
could have died right there. Because you think about it,
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if you get an injury on your armor your leg.
The first thing that they would say is to tourniquate
your arm, the upper part of your armor leg, but
at your armpit it like you can't really TURNI quit
the chest like that as well to compress the blood
from coming out, and it's coming right off of the artery,
so which just every single time your heart beats, just
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more and more blood is going to start pouring out
of that wound. And it would be very difficult to
get somebody to the hospital quick enough to stop a
bleed like that. And she's lucky it only went through
her muscle and it missed any major artery.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I mean, in this case, she was conscious the entire time,
which how horrific must that have been. Then the other
probably hurt like a bitch, honestly. So then my next
question is that other lifeguards were helping her until the
emergency workers got there, So like, did they make everybody
get out of the ocean because he was monitoring the
people's swimming.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I'm not sure, honestly. And another thing I don't think
that I read in the article was I think it's
important in situations like that, so if it went through her,
it's important to leave it there.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
So they did leave it in there. Okay, so they
had to cut it down because I mean, think of
they can't transler to something of the whole umbrella sticking
out of her and her body. You know. Yeah, Well, I.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Have another case in the gross room too that says
just screaming in the rain. That one is about an
umbrella impelling someone to this time, it's actually just a
normal umbrella you would think about using in the rain.
But it's the same, it's the same theory. There's there's
a lot of sharp metal parts, and that happened to
this guy that it went through his neck, crazy right,
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and and the same thing. They just cut off part
of it just so they could transfer him to the hospital.
But the reason, so let's say, for instance, that this
in this case that we're talking about, this young woman,
it went through her her armpit and it had let's
say it did sever or it nicked, or it was
compressing on her axillary artery. If the lifeguards are there,
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we're see first responders had pulled it out at the scene,
they could have dislodged that it was let's say that
the rod was pushing in on the vessel or it
was actually plugging up the hole that it created. If
they pulled that out, it would have just been it
could have just been a leak of blood coming out.
And that's why they tell you to leave it in
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place until it get they get to the hospital and
they could do imaging to see exactly what is happening
inside of the arm, to see if any blood vessels,
and that that's exactly what they did. So they checked
and they saw that she didn't have any major blood vessels.
There's also concern because you have big nerves there as well,
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so she could have problems with her arm. But it's
I mean, she said it only went through her muscle.
I don't even understand how she got that lucky, But
what a crazy story, right, And people just don't think
about it. But when you go to the beach, there's
there's umbrellas every where. It's just something you don't think about.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well, that's why they're stressing the importance of making sure
they're way down properly, because this could be worse, as
we see in other stories we've covered.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, I don't really know how how you prevent it, honestly,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I still think it's like such a freak accident. Even
if you're doing the right thing. Because how many umbrellas
like get knocked over or fly out, I feel.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Like you hardly three thousand of them hurt people every year.
That's a lot, I know, but.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It is a lot. But in the grand scheme of
how many are on the beach all over, is it
just in the United States or around the world, Because
I feel like in the United States alone, that could
be a low statistic for how many beaches there are.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, it is, but it's still significant in my opinion,
It's significant enough to just take into consideration, and I
just think that a lot of people don't think about it. No,
But let's move on to another incident at a beach,
this time in Florida. So this couple was on their
honeymoon and while the husband was standing in ankle deep water,
he was struck by lightning. So this weekend there were
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a lot of reports of injuries caused by lightning at
a beach. This past week there was in South Carolina,
twenty people were injured at a beach that were struck
by lightning. They luckily none of them had any fatal injuries.
But this guy was only twenty nine years old. Visiting
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Nu Smyrna Beach for his honeymoon. And we talk about
this sometimes in the grosser room, like when you're from
one part of the country or the world and you
visit another country, part of the country or world, and
you're not used to certain things that happened there, whether
it's the weather or the terrain or the animals that
live there. And I'm just wondering. Obviously, I know in
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Colorado they get thunderstorms and lightning, but they don't get
it like you do in Florida.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I would say we because it's more like tropical. It's
very tropical.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
It's Florida's just you go there, it's so so humid,
and then there's thunderstorms all the time, sometimes multiple times
in a day, and they kind of come through for
ten to fifteen minutes and leave and then the sun
comes back out. And that's a common thing that happens
in Florida. And I'm not one hundred percent sure that
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people really realize how you can get hurt standing in
the ocean like that. That's why they always say if
you are at the beach or you're at a pool,
and any time you hear thunder you should automatically get
out of the water no matter what, even if you
think it's far away. Because in this case, the cut
while the surviving wife was saying that she thought that
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the storm was miles away from the shore and they
probably hurt and even maybe saw the lightning but thought
it was far away, and it turns out that it wasn't.
And when you're in water, you're just at such a
higher risk of having serious injury or death from a
lightning strike.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Well, did you see in the article that two other
people at a golf club got struck by lightning too,
but it said neither of them were hospitalized. I'd be like,
I don't know, I need you to look at everything.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, I would want to. I would want to just
because it could cause a cardiac arrhythmia, and that it
just scares you. That's that makes your heartbeat abnormals. It's
estimated that there's two thousand deaths a year from lightning strikes,
and we do hear about them all the time. But
just think about those twenty people that were on the
beach this weekend that were treated. They were either treated
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at the scene or at the hospital, but didn't die
or have serious injuries, like, could you think about telling
people that you survived if someone told you they got
struck by lightning? Would you even believe them?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It's just you'd be like, Okay, sure you did, no
because I mean, it's kind of outrageous and it's rare,
and I think it depends on the person telling you too.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
But one cool thing about lightning strikes, probably not cool
for the victims or the patients that have experienced a
lightning strike, but in pathology we have something called a
Lichenberg figure. Have you ever seen that when a person,
like in the gross room or something. If I've posted
it when a person gets struck by lightning, I don't
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think I've ever seen it. It's really cool looking. You
should look at the posts in the gross room about it.
It looks like this fern like pattern on the skin.
That is, it's a superficial burn that appears within an
hour after someone gets struck by lightning. But there's people, obviously,
people who die get them, but there's also people who
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survive that get them too. It almost looks like do
you ever look at a fossil or something that has
an imprint of a fern leaf on it? It just
kind of has that look to it. It's just really
interesting looking. And they go away. They're not permit. They
go away within a day or two after a person
struck by lightning. But that is definitely a tell tale
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sign that someone truly he was struck by lightning.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, that's cool. I mean obviously, like you said, not
cool for them, very struck.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
But it just it just looks very it's it's so
striking and on some people it's it's very very obvious,
and and it's very specific to lightning strikes, like there's
nothing else that causes that, and it's it's really really cool.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
All right, let's move on to this next story. In China,
a sixty four year old man went to the doctor
after feeling an odd sensation in his stomach, only for
them to find a toothbrush lodged in his intestines that
he swallowed fifty two years beforehand.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yes, so he just starts telling them, you know, and doctors, seriously,
gi doctors especially see the strangest things. But obviously they're like, okay,
so you're having all of these problems. We did an endoscopy.
We found a toothbrush in your small intestine that was
about seventeen centimeter or seven inches in length, so pretty long,
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so long, so long, right, and you know how did
this get there? And he's like, oh, yeah, when I
was twelve years old, I swallowed it and I didn't
want to get in trouble and I figured it would
dissolve and it just hasn't caused me any problems until today.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It's so nuts, right, How could you even remember something
like that so long ago? I mean, all right, let's
put it into a perspective.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yes, can you get old? Doesn't mean you forget like
your life. Yeah, I mean when when you're twelve you remember.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Stuff like that. No, I'm saying, like, yesterday, you know
something you think you would remember. I texted momm and said,
what was your wedding song? Fifty years ago? She said,
I don't know it? Oh my god? Do you forget?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
So? I thought it was I thought it was Elvis.
Are you lonesome tonight?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
She said? I said, do you remember your wedding saga?
Is she repect?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I feel like it was that. I don't know anyway.
I'm just saying like that was fifty years ago and
she can't even remember something like that. On the best
day of her life, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
Well, the guy probably didn't think much of it until
they were like was because listen, like I don't care
who you are. At some point, if a toothbrush went
into your mouth and you swallowed it, it would trigger
a memory. Like that's not something that happens every day.
So the doctor said, Hi, was there any time that
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you ingested this toothbrush? And he's like, oh, yeah, there
was this time when I was a kid. It's so
lucky that didn't cause worse problems. It is, And it's
and really and think about this, like just thinking about
being a twelve year old boy swallowing a seven centimeter
just a toothbrush, I mean, or an inch toothbrush. Yeah,
like seventeen centimeter toothbrush.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
It's it's just like.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Seems like not an easy thing to do. But it
could have been something like he was doing a bet
with a friend or something. Well, didn't we see this
before where a person swallowed a toothbrush, but it was
because they were sticking it down their throat for a
needing descy. Yet a lot of times we get linear
objects like that that people are you because, especially if
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they have a history of bolimia and they lose their
gag reflex. They use longer objects to try to make
themselves throw up. I've gotten lots of different farm bodies
in the lab pens butter knives things that are very
long that people do, so yeah, that's definitely possibility, but
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I don't think with a twelve year old boy. It
was probably more just horsing around doing a bet or
something like that. But one of the obviously when you
swallow something that's long like that, even though a toothbrush
isn't sharp, so it's not like swallowing a knife, it
has blunt, smoother, plastic edges. But concerns would be if
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it didn't stay straight, which especially wouldn't happen as it
was going through the curvy GI track, that it could
just go sideways and kind of puncture right through the
intestine wall, which would cause a huge problem. So this
somehow just got lodged in there in the wall and
just made a home there for multiple years until it
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started causing problems all these years later, which it's just
so amazing how the human body works like that.
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All right, I don't even know where to start with
this next case, Maration, start talking about it, because I
still don't really know what's happening. All right, So over
the weekend, this wedding was supposed to take place, I
guess before the park opened in Disneyland Paris, so they
said it was booked at the very last minute. And
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of course because of that and it's Disney, it costs
a bunch of money. We'll get more into the numbers later.
But the guests start piling in for this wedding, so
over three hundred people before the park opens, and then
the wedding is starting to go ahead, and then the
staff at Disneyland realizes that the bride is a nine
year old girl. Why, like, so this guy was trying
(31:05):
to marry a child or what. I don't understand, like
what was happening.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
So they're they're seeing this wedding getting set up, and
then they see this little girl in a wedding dress
and they said they had she had these five inch
heels taped to her. I don't know what that means,
but she seemed very scared and confused. So the Disneyland
staff ended up calling the police, and then four people
got arrested in this case. So the main person that
got arrested in this case was a thirty thirty nine
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year old man from the UK who was set to
be the groom, so we'll talk a little bit about
him later. Her mother, and then two other people who
said they were hired to play the little girl's sister
and father. So what we've learned from this is basically
all these people were hired as last minute extras for
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this stunt. They're saying they're trying to do. So the
groom who was arrested trying to say that he hired
all these people to do this stunt mock wedding to
this child. But it turns out he's this convicted sex offender.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
So was he really just trying what was what was
the mock wedding for? Like what would be the point
of it? Was he trying to make a viral video?
Like what would be the point of it?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
All right, so this is what's really weird. So he's
saying it's this mock video. But this guy is a
is a convicted pedophile since twenty sixteen, and he has
this weird history of doing these social media stunts in
public to try to recruit children. So I think this
was part of that.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Here's the kid.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I'm not sure who the child is, so.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
It's not anyone that he knows. He like hired these people.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
He's from the UK and the girl is Ukrainian, so
I'm not sure how they ended up blinking or if
the mother was.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Well, she got arrested right, so clearly she had something
to do with it. If she was arrested.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
But like all the extras at this wedding, was this
mother under the interpretation this was like an acting job
for her child, or was she trying to traffic the kid?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
I don't know, because the news reports that I read
it seems like it this whole thing was some kind
of a stunt. And even though the guy was a
convicted sex offender, it seems as if they're trying to
say that the girl wasn't hurt at all, the child
wasn't hurt. But I'm just kind of like, well, how
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do you know that? But how do you even not?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
How do you know that? Like they had to give
her a sexual assault exam?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Yeah, but how do how do you know? I understand
that the assault exam could be negative, but how do
you know one hundred percent that that's that nothing inappropriate
happened because children at are nine years old might not
even realize something or might not feel comfortable talking about
something that happened to them.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
All right, So this guy who was arrested, he was
the groom, so he was originally found guilty of sexual
activity with two fifteen year olds in twenty sixteen. So
then this according to BBC reporting. So then in twenty
twenty three, he hired hundreds of children to act as
his fawning fans at a fake film premiere in London.
Some of them were as young as six years old.
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Then last summer he was seen giving gifts to children
outside dance auditions for another production. Two months later, he
then filmed himself nude in public. And now we fast
forward to this stunt where he's paying one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars to have this quote unquote mock wedding
to a child. So one thing to BBC was saying
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was that they're unsure of how he's getting funding for
all of these stunts he's doing. But it's concerning that
he's a convicted sex offender and he's doing all these
social media stunts to film and recruit children to be
in his presence.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Well, it's clear because he's getting money for making I
mean that's what I would think, that he's getting lots
of views and that's why he's getting money like that.
And listen, like there's like a whole entire black market.
It might not even be public social media. There's a
black market for this weird kind of child child pornography
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or exploitation of children videos like this, So that's probably
he's probably selling the videos on the dark web or something.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
He was putting them on YouTube and his page had
twelve million subscribers and millions of views. Oh that's cool.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, that's really cool, especially the way that YouTube, especially
censors a shit out of so many people. That's really
interesting that they didn't because it's not it's not straight
out porn. That's why. It's because he's whatever he's doing,
he's doing out in the open with with it looking
more synth, then it is probably Yeah, And they're saying
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that a video he took on it that he uploaded
on a different channel included secretly film footage of one
of the fifteen year old victims that he was convicted
of exploiting. So this guy has clearly been doing this
for years. This goes to my general question all the time,
why are these people walking amongst us? Clearly he's up
to no good doing this. I guess technically he's not
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doing anything illegal, but it's not for good, No, it's not.
And I guess I'm just curious why the mom got arrested.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Now, Well, do you think because arrested everybody because they
thought it was a real Like I truly could see.
I don't know, I'm saying I could see a scenario
in which because all these other extras were hired, that
maybe she thought it was some weird acting job or
something for the kid and didn't realize till she showed
up what was going on. I also wouldn't be obviously
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he couldn't legally marry her, but I wouldn't be surprised
if he was trying to.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Well, I don't really know what the laws are in Paris,
I would say probably not, but in some countries that happens, yes,
So I don't know. I don't know anything about this.
I just think I can't even believe what it would
be like to be an employee there and just have
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to even experience this. So many of them were probably
horrified and shocked and just couldn't even believe what their
eyes were seeing. And I can't imagine what the employees
were going through behind the scenes there, and this kid too.
It's just so one should get in trouble even if
they weren't doing anything, because it's like, why are you
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using a child for that?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
It's just gross he's thirty nine years old. And the
older man that was arrested that was hired to play
her father said he didn't know what was going on
until he showed up there and then saw her. Basically,
so the only two people that remained in custody were
the thirty nine year old pedophile and the woman that
said she was hired to play the bride's sister. But
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I'm like, were they working together to do something weird?
It's this is a very unusual story, and where is
he getting all this money?
Speaker 1 (38:16):
But where why would he think did he actually think
that he was going to be able to pull off
this stunt and to film it?
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah? Probably?
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Why would you think that anybody would just be like okay, yeah, yeah,
because they're trying to be like we're making a viral
TikTok video.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
It's not real. But like then when you start looking
in his history and see he's a pedophile and he's
doing all of these other public events recruiting children, You're like, well,
you were clearly up to no good, even if you
technically weren't doing anything illegal.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, I just I don't think. I don't know in
what world that he would have thought that anybody would
have just sat back at any venue and been okay
watching a grown man marry a child. It's it's very
it's it's just that's why. To me, I'm just like,
you're putting out all this money to do this stunt.
I just don't know in what world he thought the
stunt would have got pulled off.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
So they were able to charge him with fraud, breach
of trust, money laundering, and identity theft. I don't know
if they could charge him for the wedding because nothing
technically occurred, but at least they got him on something,
so they're holding Did you mention that he was wearing
a disguise? Oh no, I totally forget this. So initially
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it was reported that he was twenty two years old,
and then it came out that he had a disguise
on his face to make his appearance different.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, so they might he was giving another idea of
someone else that was younger, because he had someone do
his makeup so he looked younk.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
The whole story is so bizarre, and it just I
still doesn't me fear.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Yeah, it makes me fear. I just don't really understand.
I don't really understand.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
What the point was.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I mean, the point was that he's a pedal got
their money. Since the wedding didn't go on, that was
somebody videoing this up until the point where they called
the police and could they use that footage for a
YouTube video?
Speaker 2 (40:06):
The point of it was he was recruiting children to
make a weird viral video for other pedophiles to view
on his YouTube channel.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Well that's why I'm curious if they took footage up
until that point and if they're legally allowed to use
that footage, because obviously if they upload that at some point,
then people are gonna want to see it now, especially
because this story's been all over the world on the
news and now everybody wants to see what was happening, right,
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So he.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Would police use the police should not release the footage. Also,
her mother's still not under arrest, so I don't think
she did anything wrong because wouldn't she be charged if
they could prove.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I who knows in this day and age, like what's happening.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
I guess if his YouTube had twelve million subscribers, then
that's how he was getting the money, because.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
That's all exactly that is a lot. That's what I'm
saying like he was getting it through something.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
So all right, So let's talk about this cruise story,
another disturbing one beyond the poop cruise. So Netflix has
another documentary coming out in a couple of weeks about
this woman, Amy Bradley, who disappeared on a royal cruise
in nineteen ninety eight. We were just on a royal
cruise when Amy was twenty three. Not feel like royalty.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
It's like kind of truy.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
It definitely didn't feel like royalty. Had a great time,
momm don't get bad at this, okay. So when Amy
was twenty three, she was on a seven day cruise
with her family. They left on March twenty first. Their
cruise was departing from Puerto Rico. Two days later. It
was set to arrive in Karraco and then go on
to other destinations. So a couple of days into the trip,
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the boat is cruising between two ports and she goes
to this disco with her brother, and then the next
morning nobody could find her. They did an extensive search
of the ship, nobody saw where she was. Somebody said
they might have seen her go to the top deck.
Another person said they might have seen her with an
unidentified crew member, but it was never confirmed that it
was her. And then of course there was the thought
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that she fell overboard, but her family is adamant that
she is alive.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Well, just being on the cruise and stuff. What do
you think. Well, one of the things you should mention
too is that when they were arriving, the family begged
the cruise not to put down the gate to let
people off until they found her, and the cruise was like, no,
we're not interrupting this trip right now, which from the
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parents perspective is like I keep thinking about the parents perspective,
imagine being because when you're on a cruise, you're trapped
no matter like you're trapped and you don't want to
get off the boat because she went missing on the
boat and get a flight to go somewhere because you
want to stay where she was. But at the same time,
you're trapped on you can't stop the vacation for every
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single other person that's on the cruise because this girl's missing.
I don't I don't know what you do in this situation,
but just saying from us getting off at Bermuda and
getting back on the ship, they checked our ID three times.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Well they do, now this was nineteen ninety eight, but
you don't.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
But you don't think that they did that.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
I don't. I think I think that they.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Will technology they have now, yeah, possibly, but they so
I guess that could be a consideration because now I'm
just like, like, what we just experienced right now, there's
absolutely no way that somebody was getting off of the
ship without their ID because of the way that they
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checked so many times. We had to do ID and
and the room key for all of us every single time,
three different stops.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
They might have checked your ID to get on and
off the ship, but they didn't have a computer system
where they were logging every single passenger that got on
and off in nineteen ninety eight. It was probably handwritten
and they're I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
That's I don't know if I would say that in
nineteen ninety eight, it wasn't that. It wasn't like the
seventies or something.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, but think of the technology they had on the ship,
because you need specialty. It's not the same that's like
on land. So to have advancements in nineteen ninety eight,
to have a computer system operating like that on a boat.
It doesn't seem possible to me back then.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
Well regardless, I mean they were I'm sure that they
were checking though, and they didn't see her getting off
the boat.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Well, they might not have had cameras back then either
on the boat. That's what the documentary is going to
go through, regardless, because if they had on the boat,
ninety eight was like the seven, there was definitely lots
of they didn't. There wasn't really like strong internet presence,
but they definitely had. It's not like the sixties where
(44:51):
you could just like get away, which like it existed.
But if they had CCTV on the ship, why don't
they know where she is? No, I don't mean CCTV.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
I'm just saying, like the people that were letting the
people off of the boat knew that there was a
girl missing, and they were checking people's IDs as they
were getting off.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
I think the people getting off is less of a
concern as to her getting off the boat and maybe
somebody that did something to her on the boat in
my opinion, But when we were just on the boat.
I've been very critical on the past about how do
people fall overboard on these cruise ships, But I could
see it happening now, because on some of the decks
(45:32):
the railings are pretty low that if you really lost
your balance and you're like a taller person, you could
certainly go over valeatly.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Gabe and I went to look at the sunset, not
last night, the night before that, and it was the
whole entire rim of the top of the ship. The
point of the ship was. It wasn't even like that
glass wall. It just was bars that a child could
(45:59):
ease go through, a person could easily climb over, a
person could be drunk and fall over. I thought the
same exact thing as you, honestly, Like I was like,
there was multiple points, you know how you kept telling
me not to lean against that one area because it
went it was a gate that opened.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
At some point. Well, I didn't even think about that,
but one night Louie and Ricky were playing shuffleboard on
the deck and I went to look over and Ricky
was like, please move. That's the door, not the railing.
And obviously it's swung backwards onto the boat. But you
never know, like if you lose your balance, if the
ship is rough seat, you don't know like I could
(46:39):
I now that I've been on there could see easily
how people do fall overboard. But I'm interesting what this
documentary is going to reveal about why they think that's
not a possibility in this case, because the FBI is
also kind of agreeing with the family that she might
be alive.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
Yeah, I want to say it too, because my first
thought is just like she she either jumped or fell overboard,
because if they checked, if they did check the whole ship,
then I mean, I just think in a situation like
we just had, that it would be it would be
very impossible for something like that to happen. Because they
(47:18):
even even Gabe and I were saying this, like let's
say we were single and you're on the cruise and
you go to Bermuda and you go on the island
and you like meet someone and you want to bring
them back to your room, Like you can't do that, No,
you can't.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
It's it.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
I mean, I'm sure there's ways to maybe I don't know,
but like it's kind of impossible to get people on
the boat just because of the security to get onto
the boat. You can't just like have a one night
stand with someone that's not on the ship with you,
so cause it's not like bringing them back to a
regular hotel room, you know. But like you said, if
(47:51):
they didn't have the proper I mean maybe they check
like that now because of cases like this, especially because
we were on the same cruise liner, right, But like
back in the day, did they just like go to
port and just like let people come come and go
as they please, like that could have been.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah, I really believe that's a possibility.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
But like just the crews that we just went on,
like they only there's only one spot where they let
people off. So if I would think that if that
happened on the one we were just at all the
employees there would know that there was a missing person
to be looking for them exiting.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
But well they were looking you say, you know, looking
for somebody on the ship because there was police on
the boat with a picture of a woman looking around.
So it was like did she commit a crime or
did she fall overboard? And they're trying to see if
she's somewhere what for us? Yeah, I told you that
the other night that there were cops on the boat.
There there are security and police on the boat, but
(48:49):
a couple times I saw them walking around holding a
picture of a woman and they were like looking in
all the rooms.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Really, Yes, Oh, I didn't know that were were. I
had a whole conversation with you about it at dinner.
You definitely didn't because I wasn't. I wasn't listening.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
You were tuned out, being so in love with cruising
that you can't wait to go on your next one.
I'm interested to see what this has to say, because
I think if we did have a tracking system like
we had coming on and off the ship, and they
had a lot of security, then obviously there wouldn't be
as many questions in my true crime mind. Is it
(49:28):
possible that a crew member did something to her and
knew where to like store her body or get rid
of her or something? That's interesting to think about when
you're on this.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Cruise because obviously I don't do the drink package. Do
they do they monitor how much you're drinking? No? Yeah,
I mean they found your car, but are they gonna
cut you off? I can't even believe that there's not
more things that happen with all of the drinking that's
going on. I just I just can't, like, especially like
fall over that I don't know. It's just kind of
(50:02):
nuts to me.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
This is something I couldn't believe about the Poop Cruise
documentary because they said at some point when the ship
was down, they decided to do an open bar and
give everybody drinks. So I'm like, okay, so you don't
have working bathrooms at all, You're telling people to piss
in the shower over the edge of the boat, and
then you're gonna give everybody diuretics or things that are
gonna make them vomit. It didn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (50:24):
No, it makes sense because they were trying to keep
people happy, so they didn't get as many lawsuits when
they got back.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
Maybe, oh, to answer a question about that. Apparently, so
this maritime lawyer was like all over this as the
news coverage was breaking, And apparently they did settle some
lawsuits and they did give everybody a refund and then
like a five hundred dollars voucher and a free cruise,
like thanks. I was just stranded for four days. But
(50:50):
apparently in the disclosure of their ticket they agreed that
the cruise ship was not responsible for like anything happening.
The way they had it word it was so insane.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
Well, I could see, because you can't prevent something like
a fire or something. But I think that when they
found that the crews had six generators and only four
of them were working, like negligence things like that, then
that's when you would be able to sue because they
didn't have all of the proper things to prevent a
catastrophe like that from happening.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
If I'm remembering correctly, it was worded in a way
that was basically like, we don't have to guarantee that
the boat is safe. It was it was the lawyer
was like, this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
Yeah, but I mean, this is what happens when you
sign this shit, like who the hell knows?
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'm gonna be watching this. I'm interested
to see what they have to say. I think the
most obvious explanation is she possibly fell overboard, especially if
she had been drinking or something. But I mean, if
the family and the FBI are thinking there's a possibility
she's alive, I'm curious to see what evidence they have
to support that.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
All right, let's get into this interesting case about this
kidney transplant.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
So, two months after getting a kidney transplant, the sixty
one year old man was rested the hospital in distress,
So initially I would have thought that maybe his body
was rejecting the organ or something, but that's not what
they found.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
No. So, typically when a person gets an organ transplant,
the most common things that you're concerned about are an
infection right afterwards, just from the surgical procedure itself, and
then of course rejection that could happen soon after or
even months or years after the organ is transplanted. So
(52:38):
because of rejection, your body doesn't recognize a foreign object.
So even if you put in breastplants or breast implants,
or any foreign object into the body, your body normally
your immune system is like, this isn't supposed to be
here and attacks it. So when you get a transplant,
you get put on certain medications that cause your organ
(53:01):
not to be attacked by your immune system, so it
suppresses or makes your immune system not work great. And
when you're on drugs like that, then you're at an
increased risk of getting other kinds of infections because your
body doesn't recognize them easily as foreign and attack them
like they normally would because you're on these drugs that
(53:24):
are making your immune system chill out, so he they
didn't really know what was going on with him because
when he presented, as Maria was saying, like she said, oh,
I would have thought he was rejecting the organ, but
he wasn't presenting with the typical symptoms that you would
see in a person that was rejecting an organ. So
(53:46):
they did a bunch of blood work and all of
these tests, and they found something that was very unusual,
which was that he had a lot of eosinophils in
his blood. And eosinophils are red blood cells, and they're
called eosinophils because eosin is a red color, and it
just means that they love red. That's what ysenophil means.
And under the microscope, if you got blood work, or
(54:08):
I got blood work, most people get blood work, you'll
see a few of these cells scattered throughout the blood,
but there's not really that many of them. Whenever you
see a patient that has high eosinophils, you automatically think
that they're having either a really bad allergic reaction to
something or that they have a parasite. That's a common
thing that you see there as well. So they were
(54:32):
just thinking about any kind of weird thing that this
patient could have got because they were on these drugs
that were chilling out their immune system, so they wouldn't
reject the organ and they couldn't really come up with
anything because they also give you medications so you don't
get these infections. They really try to keep you like
drugged up so your body handles this transplant. And he
(54:56):
also had this really weird rash. So when they worked
him up in every they finally figured out that he
had a parasitic worm infection called strong eloidies. So what
was really interesting is that because this isn't common to
get in America, they had tested the blood from the donor.
(55:17):
They called the donor organization and were like, hey, did
this guy have strong elodies infection that gave the kit
that the kidney came from, And they had said no,
But then they tested his blood and they found out
that he had antibodies against that that organism, that parasite.
(55:38):
So whenever you get an infection we can even talk
about this with something like COVID or anything like that,
when your body sees something as a new infection, it
creates something called antibodies. So next time you're exposed to it.
Your immune system will recognize these antibodies and know that
your body has seen it before. So the donor of
(55:59):
this kidney had these antibodies, which means that that person
had a strong elodes infection. At some point, they tested
the person that was the recipient of the kidney and
found out that he did not have these antibodies for
strong eloides, which means only one thing, that he got
strong aloides parasite from the kidney donation. That's how they
(56:24):
figured out that that was the case. Then they looked
into it and the guy, you know, he was from
the Caribbean and he had it, and that's what happened.
And he also had been a donor of two kidneys.
So another patient got his other kidney and that patient
also got sick with strong aloides, a parasitic infection as well.
(56:45):
It's really really crazy and rare that this happened, and
luckily both of these people survived because normally, if a
person got that infection, it wouldn't be that bad, but
in this case, it traveled to this guy's lungs, it
could travel to the brain. They're worms, by the way.
It's really disturbing and when they buy up. See this
(57:06):
weird rash this guy had on his skin, it ended
up being in his skin as well. So yeah, it's
really it's really really gross and disturbing and to think
that you can get up like all of the things.
So sometimes there's been cases of people getting cancer from
organs that were donated, but a parasite is just so nasty.
And they were able to treat both of the people
(57:27):
that got both of this guy's kidneys and they lived.
But now they are suggesting that people are getting screened
from this, especially when they're from high risk regions like
the Caribbean where the strong aloitis parasite is more common.
Speaker 2 (57:43):
Yeah, I mean they did definitely need to be checking
because this would have been preventable. So if they checked beforehand,
he wouldn't have been an eligible donor.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
No. No, I mean if a person has an active
infection like something like this, especially and like think about well,
especially when they're giving patients drugs to make their immune
system not work, is great, and really their main goal
is that they just want to make sure that not
only does the patient not reject the organ, but they
(58:12):
also don't get a weird infection because that's just going
to halt the healing, the healing from the transplant, and
ultimately they want you to get the transplant, not reject it,
and heal so you could go on to have a
normal life. And they don't want to introduce things like
cancer obviously, or weird parasitic infections. It's just something that
(58:34):
you don't even think of, and it's it's kind of
rare that it happened, but it's bizarre.
Speaker 2 (58:41):
Let's get into our last story. A boil advisory has
been issued for multiple areas in Ohio after the body
of a dead worker was found inside a water tank.
That is so gross, all right, it is gross, but
like one of our best friends works and works in
a lot of water towers, and it's not uncommon that
(59:02):
like dead animals are found in them.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
It's not no I'd want to know about that. Well,
so listen, they found so this guy was working the
night shift. He was working the night before, which was
seven pm to seven am, and I guess whoever showed
up to take over after him couldn't find him. And
then an hour later they found him floating face down
(59:29):
in the water tank. But he still had on his
harness and he had safety straps and everything attached. So
as far as how the guy ended up in the water,
I don't know if the safety harness or the straps failed,
or if he had a heart attack and fell in
or whatever happened. I'm assuming that those straps are supposed
to be preventing a person from falling in the water accidentally,
(59:54):
so he fell in. And so we don't know how
when this guy died, right because he was working from
seven pm the night before, so we haven't heard any
more information about his cause of death or how decomposed
he was, so he could have been in there up
to twelve hours prior to his body getting found.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
This doesn't sound right that you would be working a
shift like this alone.
Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
I don't know how it works, but I don't see
this happens sometimes though that you have, Like we had
a situation once in the hospital when we were working
that one of the cleaning people that came in on
the weekend was stuck in the elevator for like two
days because she was by herself. Didn't ever phone on her,
nobody knew she was in this back service elevator. Like
(01:00:39):
it just happens sometimes where people are by themselves like that,
and I don't know if that's protocol or whatever, but
I don't know. I don't know what happened. The whole
point is, though, is that this so this guy could
have been in the water anywhere from like one hour
to twelve hours. When you die, you start to decompose
right away. And when bacteria in your gi track starts
(01:00:59):
multi applying, it starts putting off gas, which creates bloating,
and that's what causes people like this guy was face
down floating in the water. That's what would cause that.
And this bacteria releases gas, and the gas smells terrible.
It smells so bad if you've ever smelled anything decomposing.
(01:01:20):
And to think about the smell of that gas and
the fluids leaking from the body inside of water, which
I looked it up. And their average temperature, thank god,
they weren't going through a heat wave like that. We
were here last week when it was like one hundred
and three degrees or whatever. But their high temperature was
(01:01:41):
eighty something degrees, which is hot when you're thinking about
water being in a water tower, I mean now, And
it's been like that for weeks in this part of Ohio.
Like when I turn on my hose right now, the
water comes out of it and it's hot like temperature.
It's like if you would put hot water in your house,
so the water could be a higher temperature too, which
(01:02:01):
would just accelerate the decomposition of this guy in the
water and that decomposition fluid and the breakdowns of the
body being in the water. And so they're advising the
people that live in the town to boil their water.
That's so it's so nasty, right, Like, think about that
(01:02:22):
decomp juice being in water and people being like and
and listen, like, when you boil it, you kill all
of the germs and it's clean to drink, because all water,
if it's not either treated in a facility or it's boiled,
it has lots of organisms in it. But just the
thought of it is is just it's just gross, right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Yeah, of course it's disgusting. You don't want to think
about the water that you're using for drinking water in
your shower and everything has a decomp juice in it.
Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
So do you know what this As soon as I
heard about this, it reminded me remember there was so
back in twenty twenty one, I wrote a high profile
death to section about this Netflix documentary that was released
called crime Scene The Vanishing at the Cecil Hotel. Do
you remember that her name was Eliza Lamb.
Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
She was a twenty one year old college student that
was reported missing in this hotel and later found decomposing
in one of the hotel's rooftop water tanks for two
weeks later. Right, So, all these people at the hotel
prior to her body being found were saying that their
water was discolored and it tasted gross when they were
brushing their teeth and stuff. I know, could you imagine that,
(01:03:31):
and all that was was like decomp juice mixed with
the drinking water and the water that was coming out
of their shower and stuff. It's just so disgusting.
Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
I would say, this is definitely not the first time
a person has died in a water tank. Especially.
Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
No, it's just so disturbing to think every single time
that you're turning on your water, like you have to
take it out and boil it because there was a
dead body in it. I mean, no, thanks, I would
just be I would just be off of it for
a couple weeks at that point.
Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah, I'd say, all right, guys, well, it's been fun
this week. So we have the Atlanta Meet and greet
and the Crime and Wine happening just in two weeks.
So the Atlanta Meeting greets on July eleventh. Crime and
Wine at the Georgia Writers' Museum is on the twelfth.
There are two sessions for the date, so please make
sure to pick a good time for one of the sessions.
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