December 9, 2025 • 16 mins
This week, it’s a party on the podcast because Tommy is joined by Lindsay Lohan, Kristin Chenoweth and Ian Harding, who star in Our Little Secret on Netflix. The movie is about a girl who goes to meet her boyfriend’s family for the very first time over Christmas. But also staying with his family is her ex-boyfriend, who is dating her current boyfriend’s sister. Two exes under one roof for Christmas. As you can imagine, chaos ensues. Today, Lindsay opens up about why she was attracted to this unconventional story, the moment in this film where she just had to pay homage to Regina George, reuniting with Tim Meadows (a.k.a. Principal Duvall) for this movie, why Ian and Kristin wanted to jump at the opportunity to work with Lindsay, Kristin’s advice on how to play the perfect villain, how Ian felt about playing the quintessential hunky holiday heartthrob, what their relationships are like with grief, how they put one foot in front of the other when grieving, why its important to keep the people around you who bring you true joy, thoughts on a Mean Girls Christmas movie, what they each are manifesting for 2025, and so much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with
me Tommy di Dario, Happy Thanksgiving week. Oh I just
love this time of year so much. And while you
are preparing your stuffing and that's a delicious green bean
cast role, why not officially kick off the holiday season
by watching something festive. The iconic Lindsay Lohan is here
today and she is in a brand new Christmas movie
(00:23):
on Netflix called Our Little Secret, which is out Wednesday,
November twenty seven. So the movie is about a girl
who was dating someone and she goes to meet and
stay with his family for the holidays for the very
first time. But also staying with his family is her
ex boyfriend who is dating her current boyfriend's sister.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Did you get all that?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Basically, two x's under one roof at Christmas, and as
you can imagine, chaos ensues. But it is a party
today on my show because joining Lindsay is her dashing
co star Ian Harding, who plays that ex boyfriend I mentioned,
and the one and only Kristin Shenawi, who plays Ian's
well spicy and kind of mean mom who Lindsay's character
(01:01):
is desperate to win over this conversation, it feels like
evesdropping in a dinner party with a group of artists
who are as vibrant and kind as they are talented.
So let's see if today we can get Lindsay Kristin
ENnie and to say something that they have never said before.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Hi, guys, how you doing today?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
It is so nice to be hang out. I feel
like we're in an intimate dinner party right now. I
really like it.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
This is great.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I have to start first by telling you that in
twenty twenty two, when we watched your first Netflix Christmas movie,
my husband and I decided we need to book a.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Snowy ski resort vacation. So we did.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
We booked Aspen and Veil. Oh wow, because we wanted
to have a Lindsay Lohan Christmas. So you're now a
travel influencer and we're also booking vacations because of your work.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I have to do like a like somewhere in the Sun.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I think so, I think so well. I was thinking
what are we going to get from this movie? And
I'm thinking, well, I don't want him to reunite with
his X, so we'll skip the I have a problem
with that.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, to do Ireland next?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Actually, well, that's true, that's true, that's true. Well, I
loved this film. Our Little Secret is so good. It's funny,
it's emotional.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I'm in Italian, I'm emotional. I cried a little bit,
daring it. Yeah, I absolutely love this film. So for
the three of you, it's such a unique story, right,
what made you each want to be a part of it?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
For me, I loved how grounding the film was.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I like that it's it takes place during Christmas, but
it's not all about Christmas. It's about you know, Avery's
journey to realize she has to maybe let go a
little bit and what she thinks is best for her
is not always what's right, and so what's it? I
think it tells a nice tale of that, of just
kind of letting go and seeing what happens. Things are
meant to happen for a reason, Like everything happens at
(02:49):
the House of Erica is because she's meant to be
there and meant to be reunited.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And if that's meant to be true or not, if
they're supposed to be together.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, yeah, I think Lindsay, like, you know, getting the
scripted me Okay, Well, I'll read this at some point,
you know, yeah, I'll do this.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
It was very gat some point and I kind of
did a version of that myself because I've always wanted
to be with her and work together. There's been versions
of this story, but not this exact premise, and I
thought it just made for a lot of confusion, fun
and Shnanians and great at the perfect recipe for a
(03:31):
holiday movie.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, like it was.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
When I read it, I felt like a version of
Meet the Parents, and I love that movie, say good
And it was like a little like a lighthearted version
of that less slapstick comedy, but the comedy is there,
and I just that really drew me to it.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I was like, we need to bring this to life.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And you you play in the sassy mom, mother in
law type of character, a little villain.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
This I will say, how do you kneel a perfect villain?
What are your tips?
Speaker 5 (03:59):
I tips are do everything with a smile.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
That's very southern too. She's southern.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I joyed playing a villain. It's fun. I've done it
a few times but never won. This passive aggressive yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, she was a great character.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And you the leading honky Netflix man because you.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Can't have a Christmas movie about the hunk, right. Did
you have a fun time playing?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, I mean it was yeah, yeah, it's an absolute blast. Again.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
I know I've been saying this, but like the fact
that I get to show up and be kind of
paid to do this is like should be illegal, you know,
and I just got to have fun. And I think
one of the things I also really loved about this
script was that there weren't like caricatures.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It felt having seen like read a bunch of scripts
for Christmas movies and things like that in the past,
sometimes what can happen is it's just like tropes interacting
with the tropes, And as you said, it's like a
very grounded script and could be a standalone movie that's
just set in Christmas. And so like, once I read it,
I was like, oh, I understand this guy, and I
understand where he's coming from, and I liked it. Over
(05:12):
the course of the movie, you're like, I'm not sure,
like what he's going to do, you know. It's not
like in the first.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Ten minutes I'm like, Okay, he's gonna get with her,
and we all know that. I like that there was
that there is, there's some doubt and and that was
really appealing. And then obviously all the other characters were
just you know, organic and humans. First, Yeah, there was
one thing I was hoping, what happened in this movie
at with the two of you navy or the summer's
(05:40):
not here yet so you can crank one out.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Right, I scheduled she doesn't have.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Maybe next July when you have some moments exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I also loved there was a line in the movie
I think Lindsay you said, which was, oh, so you
think she's pretty?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And was I mean that? Clearly it was paying homage
to Mean Girls?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Was that your idea? Did you?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It was there? But it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
But I once I saw it there, I said, I
was like, this is very Regina George and Mean Girls.
And then I was like, okay, now I have to
say it like Regina would say it. So and then
it came across I think as a direct kind of
easter egg.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It was so good, and of course because I.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Always wanted to play Regina but Mark Waters wouldn't let me. Yeah, really,
He's like, you're not allowed to play the mean girl.
You have to Blae the nice Girl.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So you got your moment.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You got your moment, no, right, and you were united
with Tin Meadows, who was great as well. How was
seaming up with him at a different capacity.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It just I just love working with people that are,
you know, just great people in general.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And he's a really good person.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
And I really connected with him on Mean Girls and
we stayed friends kind of for a little bit after.
And I hadn't seen him in a long time, so
to see him on the set and be there and
work together, it was really really great.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I love the bread crumbs. I love the Mean Girls
bread crumbs, right, And I know everybody asks about reunion,
so let's be a little more interesting than that.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
What do you think about a Mean Girls Christmas movie?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I feel like everything Girls, the tea ba always.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'm trying to pick on a genre for you. Yeah, yeah,
that could be funny. Would you would have to be
in it?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Huge channel Regina in this movie, So yeah, we need
some of that for sure. I need the three of
you to settle this debate. For me, is screwtop.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Wine really that bad? No? You just you really rail
on it.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And I'm thinking of some bottles I brought over the
years of people's houses.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
It's the thought that counts. That's right.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
It's a very nice answer. But behind that, you're like, no,
not the best, not the best box wine.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That would have been actually funnier. That's what we should
have spreads the.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Old slap bag wine.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yeah, but Avery's like not she's I think, yeah, she
was just rushing from her office exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Exactly one of the themes of this movie.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And there's so many that I feel like people can
pull from, which is why I enjoy this movie. It's
not just all of the typical tropes and cliches. There's
a lot you can get out of it. One of
the things I got out of it was and it's
not a major theme, but the theme of grief, right,
Like you're mourning the loss of your mother in this movie. Yeah,
And I think so many people, especially around.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
The holidays, feel the grief more, you.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Know, so, And it's not something a lot of people
talk about, right because it's not sexy. Who wants to
talk about it? But I guess my question is what
are your relationships like with grief and how do you
kind of put one foot in front of the other
and just keep going when you are feeling down about
something like that.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Oh, prayer is a big thing for me because my grandmother,
I was very closer to my grandfather and my other grandmother.
So it's just like, I feel like you can always
talk to the people that you lost. They're always still
there so that you never have to close that door.
And I think that's a good coping mechanism.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I mean, I know that you were close to them,
and that I know that that's hard. I think feeling
it too like allowing yourself to feel grief and sot. Okay,
it's fine, it's fine. It's like living in it for
a second and then then you can pick yourself back
up and wait till the next time you feel it.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
But feeling it, yeah, yeah, you know this is this
is funny you asked this question because I between when
we finished this movie and now, one of my aunt
who I was very close with, passed away in July,
and I think it's okay. You know, she she was
an amazing woman and actually she was a very like
spiritual person, was a theology teacher as well, and she
(09:39):
and I would have these deep conversations about about prayer
and grief and having you know, a deeper meaning and everything.
And since that has happened, I've actually had more of
an experience of like being able to talk to those people.
And it's odd, like when I have a moment of
quiet and like usually in the morning before my son
has risen and chaos and susuh, you know, I have
(10:04):
that moment of like stillness and that's usually when I
can hear those people. And short of going with what
you're saying is like, don't try and put it, push
it down, like, oh, I got a big day, Like
I can't be hit with this wave of sadness right now.
Like no, no, you can be hit with it. Just
let it happen. And it's the more that we experience
it the better, which I think is also you know,
kind of a theme in this movie is like you know,
(10:25):
it's not running from it.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
No, I think you're absolutely right. I so connected with
that so much show that. Here's a quick story. So
I was on a flight and there was a really
sweet grandmother next to me, and she could tell I
was just having a day, and I was I was
I was dealing with grief of my own, and she
reached in her bag and pulled out this little bear
and this little note.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And here I have it for each of you.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
And this is for any moment in your life where
you might be grieving, or if you feel like you
come across someone who needs it like I need it
that day. And to your point, I think it's such
a beautiful theme of the movie. Not that it's all
about that. It's fun and quirky and all the things,
but I want each of you to have this. There's
a little card in there.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And here.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I am a little pocket bear. Squeeze me tight when
feeling blue. I'm here to give you strength and warmth
that will help to you, help.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You to get through.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So whenever you need a little something, I hope that
brings a smile, whether for you or someone else, because
I think, you know, we all need those little signs
from the universe. And when I was on that plane,
I got one and I didn't expect it, and it
just shifts your perspective a little bit. So I thought
that was really cool. Yeah, I hope you enjoy something.
And with the movie, aside from that, what do you
(11:52):
want people to feel and experience and want?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Because I generally came in to talk to us earlier
in his pocket, And the first thing I noticed when
you walked in. I was like, that's such a cute
idea bear in your pocket.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
But now we're getting we're supposed to be receiving something.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I don't believe in coincidences. I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I think it's all So what else do you hope
people walk away with when they watch this movie?
Speaker 5 (12:16):
You know?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I feel like we make a movie like this so
that people can escape anything that's going on in the
world in their lives for a minute and just laugh.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
A little bit.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
So I hope they just walk away with laughter and yeah,
and just have a little bit more fun that day,
leaving it a little lighter.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It seems like you all had a lot of fun
doing this. An alarming amount, an alarming amount.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
It was sad. I mean I was emotional when we laughed.
I said, I don't want this little we're just getting
into it.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Now it's over.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
We see each other and we're very close, and you know,
we made a new friend. I just that's what you
take in this industry, which is so joyful, can be
so joyful. You take those that you feel like and
along with you and your.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Riote that's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
And I believe everyone here has done other Christmas projects. Yes,
So what keeps you coming back for more?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
The scripts?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, the scriptories, the stories there then it's worth it's
worth making. And then and then once you if you
can get the right cast together, then you get really lucky.
And if you can find the right director for it,
then you really have something good.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
To cook with.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
M that's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And what is one of your your dreams for the
next year. I always like at this point of interviews
with people to kind of put a little manifestation in
and whether it's personal or professional.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
My god, I sound so wooy today, right right, it's
what we're thing.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
You're throwing down and we love it.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, So what is something you want for yourself career
wise or personally in the coming year.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
I always just manifest like good health, happiness and safety
for me and my family and friends next year, for
next this coming year. Oh, I hope people love Freaky Friday.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
We've already won, like it's already a winner. Yeah, mine
is going to be.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Since I'm going to go off her going in.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
The Coin of Versailles. I've got a new Broadway show
and we stand starring and you know, we all do
these things we want they want them to be great, right,
we want to give the world, leave the world a
better place than we found it, or thought provoking peace
or something funny. And that's what I hope for that show.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Yeah, I think, I think more opportunity for connection because
I think this this year, you know, personally, has been
a really good one for me. I get to work
with these people at the beginning of it, and I've
been able to be home with my family for a
big check of time and now coming back up to
Toronto to work on the show, and and and so
I've had a lot of connection. And like I've connected
(14:47):
with wonderful actors one of the people, and then also
watching my son grow so quickly and being able to
connect with him in more ways. I think that's I
want a continuation of that scene hopefully.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Well, I wish that all for you. Congratulations. Ask what
do you want? What do I want? Oh my god,
I don't know. I just I just want to be happy.
I want to be present, right.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I get out of the moment quite a lot, and
I just want to be in the moment and enjoy everything. Personally,
and professional, including your movie.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Thank you for this movie. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I hope you have a great holiday season. Thank you,
Thank you guys truly. Of course, I hope you like that.
I know it's a little cheesy fun, you know, to use.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
It when I need it and give it away.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
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Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with
me Tommy di Dario, Happy Thanksgiving week. Oh I just
love this time of year so much. And while you
are preparing your stuffing and that's a delicious green bean
cast role, why not officially kick off the holiday season
by watching something festive. The iconic Lindsay Lohan is here
today and she is in a brand new Christmas movie
(00:23):
on Netflix called Our Little Secret, which is out Wednesday,
November twenty seven. So the movie is about a girl
who was dating someone and she goes to meet and
stay with his family for the holidays for the very
first time. But also staying with his family is her
ex boyfriend who is dating her current boyfriend's sister.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Did you get all that?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Basically, two x's under one roof at Christmas, and as
you can imagine, chaos ensues. But it is a party
today on my show because joining Lindsay is her dashing
co star Ian Harding, who plays that ex boyfriend I mentioned,
and the one and only Kristin Shenawi, who plays Ian's
well spicy and kind of mean mom who Lindsay's character
(01:01):
is desperate to win over this conversation, it feels like
evesdropping in a dinner party with a group of artists
who are as vibrant and kind as they are talented.
So let's see if today we can get Lindsay Kristin
ENnie and to say something that they have never said before.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Hi, guys, how you doing today?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
It is so nice to be hang out. I feel
like we're in an intimate dinner party right now. I
really like it.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
This is great.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I have to start first by telling you that in
twenty twenty two, when we watched your first Netflix Christmas movie,
my husband and I decided we need to book a.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Snowy ski resort vacation. So we did.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
We booked Aspen and Veil. Oh wow, because we wanted
to have a Lindsay Lohan Christmas. So you're now a
travel influencer and we're also booking vacations because of your work.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I have to do like a like somewhere in the Sun.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I think so, I think so well. I was thinking
what are we going to get from this movie? And
I'm thinking, well, I don't want him to reunite with
his X, so we'll skip the I have a problem
with that.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, to do Ireland next?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Actually, well, that's true, that's true, that's true. Well, I
loved this film. Our Little Secret is so good. It's funny,
it's emotional.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I'm in Italian, I'm emotional. I cried a little bit,
daring it. Yeah, I absolutely love this film. So for
the three of you, it's such a unique story, right,
what made you each want to be a part of it?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
For me, I loved how grounding the film was.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I like that it's it takes place during Christmas, but
it's not all about Christmas. It's about you know, Avery's
journey to realize she has to maybe let go a
little bit and what she thinks is best for her
is not always what's right, and so what's it? I
think it tells a nice tale of that, of just
kind of letting go and seeing what happens. Things are
meant to happen for a reason, Like everything happens at
(02:49):
the House of Erica is because she's meant to be
there and meant to be reunited.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
And if that's meant to be true or not, if
they're supposed to be together.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, yeah, I think Lindsay, like, you know, getting the
scripted me Okay, Well, I'll read this at some point,
you know, yeah, I'll do this.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
It was very gat some point and I kind of
did a version of that myself because I've always wanted
to be with her and work together. There's been versions
of this story, but not this exact premise, and I
thought it just made for a lot of confusion, fun
and Shnanians and great at the perfect recipe for a
(03:31):
holiday movie.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, like it was.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
When I read it, I felt like a version of
Meet the Parents, and I love that movie, say good
And it was like a little like a lighthearted version
of that less slapstick comedy, but the comedy is there,
and I just that really drew me to it.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I was like, we need to bring this to life.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And you you play in the sassy mom, mother in
law type of character, a little villain.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
This I will say, how do you kneel a perfect villain?
What are your tips?
Speaker 5 (03:59):
I tips are do everything with a smile.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
That's very southern too. She's southern.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I joyed playing a villain. It's fun. I've done it
a few times but never won. This passive aggressive yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Yeah, she was a great character.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And you the leading honky Netflix man because you.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Can't have a Christmas movie about the hunk, right. Did
you have a fun time playing?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, I mean it was yeah, yeah, it's an absolute blast. Again.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
I know I've been saying this, but like the fact
that I get to show up and be kind of
paid to do this is like should be illegal, you know,
and I just got to have fun. And I think
one of the things I also really loved about this
script was that there weren't like caricatures.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It felt having seen like read a bunch of scripts
for Christmas movies and things like that in the past,
sometimes what can happen is it's just like tropes interacting
with the tropes, And as you said, it's like a
very grounded script and could be a standalone movie that's
just set in Christmas. And so like, once I read it,
I was like, oh, I understand this guy, and I
understand where he's coming from, and I liked it. Over
(05:12):
the course of the movie, you're like, I'm not sure,
like what he's going to do, you know. It's not
like in the first.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Ten minutes I'm like, Okay, he's gonna get with her,
and we all know that. I like that there was
that there is, there's some doubt and and that was
really appealing. And then obviously all the other characters were
just you know, organic and humans. First, Yeah, there was
one thing I was hoping, what happened in this movie
at with the two of you navy or the summer's
(05:40):
not here yet so you can crank one out.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Right, I scheduled she doesn't have.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Maybe next July when you have some moments exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I also loved there was a line in the movie
I think Lindsay you said, which was, oh, so you
think she's pretty?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And was I mean that? Clearly it was paying homage
to Mean Girls?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Was that your idea? Did you?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It was there? But it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
But I once I saw it there, I said, I
was like, this is very Regina George and Mean Girls.
And then I was like, okay, now I have to
say it like Regina would say it. So and then
it came across I think as a direct kind of
easter egg.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
It was so good, and of course because I.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Always wanted to play Regina but Mark Waters wouldn't let me. Yeah, really,
He's like, you're not allowed to play the mean girl.
You have to Blae the nice Girl.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So you got your moment.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You got your moment, no, right, and you were united
with Tin Meadows, who was great as well. How was
seaming up with him at a different capacity.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
It just I just love working with people that are,
you know, just great people in general.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
And he's a really good person.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
And I really connected with him on Mean Girls and
we stayed friends kind of for a little bit after.
And I hadn't seen him in a long time, so
to see him on the set and be there and
work together, it was really really great.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I love the bread crumbs. I love the Mean Girls
bread crumbs, right, And I know everybody asks about reunion,
so let's be a little more interesting than that.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
What do you think about a Mean Girls Christmas movie?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I feel like everything Girls, the tea ba always.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I'm trying to pick on a genre for you. Yeah, yeah,
that could be funny. Would you would have to be
in it?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Huge channel Regina in this movie, So yeah, we need
some of that for sure. I need the three of
you to settle this debate. For me, is screwtop.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Wine really that bad? No? You just you really rail
on it.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And I'm thinking of some bottles I brought over the
years of people's houses.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
It's the thought that counts. That's right.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
It's a very nice answer. But behind that, you're like, no,
not the best, not the best box wine.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
That would have been actually funnier. That's what we should
have spreads the.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Old slap bag wine.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yeah, but Avery's like not she's I think, yeah, she
was just rushing from her office exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Exactly one of the themes of this movie.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
And there's so many that I feel like people can
pull from, which is why I enjoy this movie. It's
not just all of the typical tropes and cliches. There's
a lot you can get out of it. One of
the things I got out of it was and it's
not a major theme, but the theme of grief, right,
Like you're mourning the loss of your mother in this movie. Yeah,
And I think so many people, especially around.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
The holidays, feel the grief more, you.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Know, so, And it's not something a lot of people
talk about, right because it's not sexy. Who wants to
talk about it? But I guess my question is what
are your relationships like with grief and how do you
kind of put one foot in front of the other
and just keep going when you are feeling down about
something like that.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Oh, prayer is a big thing for me because my grandmother,
I was very closer to my grandfather and my other grandmother.
So it's just like, I feel like you can always
talk to the people that you lost. They're always still
there so that you never have to close that door.
And I think that's a good coping mechanism.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I mean, I know that you were close to them,
and that I know that that's hard. I think feeling
it too like allowing yourself to feel grief and sot. Okay,
it's fine, it's fine. It's like living in it for
a second and then then you can pick yourself back
up and wait till the next time you feel it.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
But feeling it, yeah, yeah, you know this is this
is funny you asked this question because I between when
we finished this movie and now, one of my aunt
who I was very close with, passed away in July,
and I think it's okay. You know, she she was
an amazing woman and actually she was a very like
spiritual person, was a theology teacher as well, and she
(09:39):
and I would have these deep conversations about about prayer
and grief and having you know, a deeper meaning and everything.
And since that has happened, I've actually had more of
an experience of like being able to talk to those people.
And it's odd, like when I have a moment of
quiet and like usually in the morning before my son
has risen and chaos and susuh, you know, I have
(10:04):
that moment of like stillness and that's usually when I
can hear those people. And short of going with what
you're saying is like, don't try and put it, push
it down, like, oh, I got a big day, Like
I can't be hit with this wave of sadness right now.
Like no, no, you can be hit with it. Just
let it happen. And it's the more that we experience
it the better, which I think is also you know,
kind of a theme in this movie is like you know,
(10:25):
it's not running from it.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
No, I think you're absolutely right. I so connected with
that so much show that. Here's a quick story. So
I was on a flight and there was a really
sweet grandmother next to me, and she could tell I
was just having a day, and I was I was
I was dealing with grief of my own, and she
reached in her bag and pulled out this little bear
and this little note.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
And here I have it for each of you.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
And this is for any moment in your life where
you might be grieving, or if you feel like you
come across someone who needs it like I need it
that day. And to your point, I think it's such
a beautiful theme of the movie. Not that it's all
about that. It's fun and quirky and all the things,
but I want each of you to have this. There's
a little card in there.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And here.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I am a little pocket bear. Squeeze me tight when
feeling blue. I'm here to give you strength and warmth
that will help to you, help.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
You to get through.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
So whenever you need a little something, I hope that
brings a smile, whether for you or someone else, because
I think, you know, we all need those little signs
from the universe. And when I was on that plane,
I got one and I didn't expect it, and it
just shifts your perspective a little bit. So I thought
that was really cool. Yeah, I hope you enjoy something.
And with the movie, aside from that, what do you
(11:52):
want people to feel and experience and want?
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Because I generally came in to talk to us earlier
in his pocket, And the first thing I noticed when
you walked in. I was like, that's such a cute
idea bear in your pocket.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
But now we're getting we're supposed to be receiving something.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I don't believe in coincidences. I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I think it's all So what else do you hope
people walk away with when they watch this movie?
Speaker 5 (12:16):
You know?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I feel like we make a movie like this so
that people can escape anything that's going on in the
world in their lives for a minute and just laugh.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
A little bit.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
So I hope they just walk away with laughter and yeah,
and just have a little bit more fun that day,
leaving it a little lighter.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It seems like you all had a lot of fun
doing this. An alarming amount, an alarming amount.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
It was sad. I mean I was emotional when we laughed.
I said, I don't want this little we're just getting
into it.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Now it's over.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
We see each other and we're very close, and you know,
we made a new friend. I just that's what you
take in this industry, which is so joyful, can be
so joyful. You take those that you feel like and
along with you and your.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Riote that's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
And I believe everyone here has done other Christmas projects. Yes,
So what keeps you coming back for more?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
The scripts?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, the scriptories, the stories there then it's worth it's
worth making. And then and then once you if you
can get the right cast together, then you get really lucky.
And if you can find the right director for it,
then you really have something good.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
To cook with.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
M that's so beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And what is one of your your dreams for the
next year. I always like at this point of interviews
with people to kind of put a little manifestation in
and whether it's personal or professional.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
My god, I sound so wooy today, right right, it's
what we're thing.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
You're throwing down and we love it.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah, So what is something you want for yourself career
wise or personally in the coming year.
Speaker 7 (13:48):
I always just manifest like good health, happiness and safety
for me and my family and friends next year, for
next this coming year. Oh, I hope people love Freaky Friday.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
We've already won, like it's already a winner. Yeah, mine
is going to be.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Since I'm going to go off her going in.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
The Coin of Versailles. I've got a new Broadway show
and we stand starring and you know, we all do
these things we want they want them to be great, right,
we want to give the world, leave the world a
better place than we found it, or thought provoking peace
or something funny. And that's what I hope for that show.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
Yeah, I think, I think more opportunity for connection because
I think this this year, you know, personally, has been
a really good one for me. I get to work
with these people at the beginning of it, and I've
been able to be home with my family for a
big check of time and now coming back up to
Toronto to work on the show, and and and so
I've had a lot of connection. And like I've connected
(14:47):
with wonderful actors one of the people, and then also
watching my son grow so quickly and being able to
connect with him in more ways. I think that's I
want a continuation of that scene hopefully.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Well, I wish that all for you. Congratulations. Ask what
do you want? What do I want? Oh my god,
I don't know. I just I just want to be happy.
I want to be present, right.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I get out of the moment quite a lot, and
I just want to be in the moment and enjoy everything. Personally,
and professional, including your movie.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
Thank you for this movie. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I hope you have a great holiday season. Thank you,
Thank you guys truly. Of course, I hope you like that.
I know it's a little cheesy fun, you know, to use.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
It when I need it and give it away.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
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