On today’s MKD, we get into Michael Madsen's official cause of death, the death of Connie Francis, potential charges for Emilie Kiser's husband, a mom criticized for hiring a lifeguard, an attempted kidnapping at Great Wolf Lodge, a man who decapitated a seagull, and the new freeze branding trend.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Guys, welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have a great
episode for you today. We have a couple of updates
on some stories we've covered over the past couple of weeks,
including a social media influencer's son who died and drowned
in the family swimming pool, and we have the results
of Michael Madison's autopsy too. We'll get into the death
of singer Connie Francis, a mom criticized for hiring a
(00:43):
lifeguard and attempted kidnapping at a popular children's resort, annoying
seagulls at the Jersey Shore, and one man's gruesome solution
to getting rid of one of them. We'll also discuss
the latest DIY body trend that's going viral. All that
and more on today's episode. Let's get into Michael Madsen's death.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So we had been critical because they said he died
from cardiac or esp but now they've elaborated a little
more on it, and I'm not going to try to
pronounce these things, so you could tell everybody what it says.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, it said that he had a combination of cardio myopathy,
coronary artery disease, chronic alcoholism, and thrombo embolytic disease.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So that's basically everything that you said.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, I mean, we know that he had a history
of alcoholism. It's really interesting because alcohol when I learned
in school anyway, was that alcohol could have an effect
on the heart and call something called dilated cardio myopathy.
But I just saw that there was a recent study
done saying that that isn't the case, and they really
just think that it was that it's underlying genetic conditions
(01:50):
that are causing these people to get cardiomopathy. And then
I learned in school that alcohol was bad for you,
and now it might not be bad for you and
the like as far as your heart health goes.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So who knows where how can it not be bad
for your heart if it's bad for other parts of
your body.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
The thing is is that there were studies done that
showed that mild drinking could actually improve cardiovascular health, especially
with the cornary arteries.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I think we did actually talk about that maybe a
year or two ago, and then now they just they
just go back and forth and say that sometimes it
has a good effect on the arteries, and sometimes it doesn't.
So I don't know where we're sitting right now, because
the heart is just one of these things, like coffee's
really bad for you. Okay, maybe one cup of coffee
is actually good for you. You know, it goes back
(02:40):
and forth all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So I can't hear this coffee slander. It's the only
vice I have. Just please let me have it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Oh, go ahead and have it. I don't care. But
I mean I loved I love coffee too, not as
much as I used to, but I do drink it
almost every day still, but only like once because I
can't sleep anymore. But regardless, so just drinking long term.
If they're saying that he had chronic alcoholism, I'm assuming
(03:10):
that they saw some kind of damage to the liver,
either like a fatty liver disease or even early stages
of cirrhosis could have been possible. He had coronary artery disease. Again,
we can't exactly say if that was because of the drinking,
but regardless, he was He was almost sixty years old,
so that just happens when you age in certain different
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people too. Thrombo embolytic disease means that sometimes a thrombus
is a blood clot, and embolytic means it moved, so
it means that he could have been having blood clots
that were traveling around his body. So everything that happened,
it's just because really it seems like he was having
(03:54):
a poor lifestyle. It sucks because a lot of the
articles were saying that he had sobered up recently, and
they said that he had some kind of test done
to check his coronary arteries like months ago. So I
don't understand if he was waiting to get a procedure
done or what that procedure showed, because it did say
(04:15):
that he had coronary artery disease. So obviously they may
not have fixed what the problem was, if they even
solve a problem when they did the testing. So, you know,
I was thinking, we watched Kill Bill last week just
because we talked about Michael Madsen, and I was like,
I need to watch that again. I love that movie,
both of them, and in that movie, that movie's from
(04:36):
two thousand and three. He was my age in that
movie and he looks pretty old.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah. I was just about to say that now when
you put it in perspective and you're like, that was
twenty years ago. I'm like, wow, he really didn't good
for his age. Yeah, he just looked like he looked
like he had. And I know that that was part
of his character to look like he had a rough life,
like that was part of the he was playing. But
he just he looked like like he had. He looked
(05:04):
like he really did have a rough life. That wasn't
makeup or anything. I mean, that's what he looked like
back then.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
So and I love I absolutely love him and his
cat all of his characters that he played. So it's sad,
but this is just this is just something. So it's
just kind of a bummer because sometimes you hear people
have these drug addictions or any kind of alcohol addiction,
smoking cigarettes and stuff, and they really are like trying
(05:30):
to get their life back together and they stop doing
whatever they're doing and then they die shortly after, and
you're kind of like, sometimes the damage is just so
great that there's no going back from it, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, all right. Iconic singer Connie Francis has died at
eighty seven years old. So I really like her music
as somebody that loves vintage things. But the youths might
know her because her song pretty Little Baby recently went
viral on TikTok, and it's been used truly in every
other video I've seen on Instagram. Yeah, I used it
(06:06):
in a clip recently because it's going viral. But I
love that song. I think it's awesome and she's an
awesome singer. And this is a bummer.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I have my volume off at all times because you know,
I get triggered by sounds in videos. We know we
could have mom someone wrote, Someone wrote a comment under
one of my recent videos and was like, Hi, why
haven't you been putting sound?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Like?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
What's up with that? And I'm like, dude, I never
I rarely put sound behind because it's so triggering to me.
I hate the sound of it. But Connie Francis, you
know what, whenever I hear the name Connie Francis, do
you know what I think about? What the craft? Why
do you do? So you don't know what that? Well,
(06:49):
anybody that's listening to me knows exactly what I'm about
to say right now. So remember Nancy who what was
that actress's name for? Didn't shit for USA? Something?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I forge? I forget her. You know, I know exactly
who you're talking about. Yeah, the one that kind of
looks like you does Nines in the nineties. Yeah, I
kind of have that look. I guess, yes, murder me
if I posted any picture of you that even closely
resembled her, because I had gang my gang member pictured,
(07:20):
Please pose that I have one of you, me and
Lily on the fridge. I'm probably like three or four
in the picture. Louie is also a little kid, and
you definitely have that like flipped, black dyed haircut and
like the dark lip liner and lipstick. Anyway, Prissy, that was.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
That was the look anyway. In the movie she has
she lives in like kind of a white trash situation
in a trailer, and she's got this mom who has
a boyfriend that's like drunk all the time and beaten
on her. And then something once she gets her powers,
something happens and the I guess the trailer that there
(07:56):
ain't gets like struck by lightning or something, and the
guy starts having a heart attack. He dies, and then
they're like the mom sitting there crying, and then this
guy comes over that's like an insurance agent and lets
them know that this total loser had some kind of
insurance policy and they were getting a lot of money.
So then all of a sudden, the mom becomes really
rich and gets this condo with like white carpets and stuff,
(08:18):
and she's like, I've always had a dream my whole
life to have a jukebox that only plays Connie Francis.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's it's so great.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
But so I love that part of the movie just
because it's hilarious. But really, the thing that sucks is
that Connie Francis sued this a couple companies that were
using her songs in movies because she thought that they
were morally corrupt. Oh really yeah, Like she didn't like
that the like it was being used in like sex
scenes with certain movies like Jawbreaker and what was that
(08:51):
other one called that it was in Postcards from America
and the Craft. Obviously, like she just she sued because
she said that they were using her music without asking
and she wasn't getting paid royalties.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So I want to talk about her history. She has
kind of like she's had a couple traumatic things happen
to her. So first I want to start off with
her born name was Conchetta which is your grandmother's name,
by great grandmother's name, which is the coolest name ever
it is. And she had to Americanize her name after
going on Arthur Godfrey's TV show Star Time Talent Scouts,
(09:27):
so they told her they had to make her name
easier to say because her like crazy Italian name was
too hard for all us idiot American people. So she
was really popular in the sixties. And then in nineteen
seventy four, she survived a rape and robbery in her
hotel room following a performance at Westbury Music Fair, and
then she ended up suing that hotel and won, but
she was in a deep depression from that. In nineteen
(09:50):
eighty one, her brother was murdered, which is further deep
in her depression. And then in nineteen seventy seven she
had nasal surgery which caused her to lose her singing voice.
And I wanted to bring that point up in particular
because there's a new documentary on Barbara Walters, and there's
a supercut going around of all the horrific questions she's
ever asked people in interviews, one of which was when
(10:10):
she asked Barbara streisand was she never got a nose
job and she.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
She's so mean.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yes, she would.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
She asked like, what did she say? She said something
to Elizabeth Teller about her weight or something.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
She said it to Elizabeth Teller about her weight. She
also had this one pisses me off in particular because
I love Dolly Parton more than anything. She like referred
to her as a redneck. I believe she also asked
her really inappropriate questions about the way she looked versus her,
and yeah she did. Yeah, And I just think, I mean,
(10:43):
this could be probably a whole episode in itself, but
she was an extremely disgruntled person that took it out
on other people, clearly. But the point that was brought
up was that maybe Barbara didn't want to get the
surgery because she didn't want to affect her saying voice
as we could see it had been to Connie Francis.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
So oh, wait of her voice, you mean her talking voice?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Because why would you even go in the area in
which I could possibly be affected if your primary job.
I'm not criticizing Connie France as I'm saying for Barber Streis,
And why would she even take the gamble?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't. I wouldn't either. I
mean I say that, I say that all the time,
Like with the eye surgery and stuff, I would just
never get it done because you wouldn't be able to
do your job anymore or what you love to do.
I mean, I just can't even imagine that. But I
mean sometimes you have to get surgery whatever. So she
(11:38):
ended up dying from pneumonia. She was eighty seven. I
don't know, it's like this category of if you make
it to eighty seven, then that's amazing. That's really old age.
And she had a really like a long life. She
had a lot of years of life. So I guess
she had some kind of injury to her hip a
(12:00):
few months or maybe even in the beginning of the year.
And just sometimes with older people, if they get something
as simple as like break their hip, it's like all
of a sudden, they just go downhill from there. And
they could have been totally fine up until that point,
but just being in the house, not being able to
move around and things like that just can make them
(12:22):
downgrade like very quickly. And that's what happened. She got
some kind of infection and got it it went into
her lungs and she died as a result of that.
I think it's interesting you brought up the point that
she had sued all these movies for using her song,
and that so many years later the sound ends up
going viral on tatok because obviously anybody could put the
(12:43):
sound on whatever video they want. And then she ended
up doing a video lip syncing to her own song
like the clip on it, and she was petting.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Her dog, So that's amazing, and she was like, it's
kind of crazy, I'm lip syncing to a song I
recorded over sixty years ago. Yeah, so that was cool.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Though, car though, Yeah, I wouldn't mind to have a
jukebox with Connie Francis playing all day honestly exclusively.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I don't know the moro was hearing it. The moro
is like, this is getting into horror movie territory where
it's just in the back of my mind this one
particular verse all day long and it can't go away,
and it was like haunting me for a couple of weeks.
So I don't know. Definitely a bummer that she died,
all right.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
That's how I feel about the one eight hundred cars
for kids. Oh my god, thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
No, seriously, you're.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
One eight seven seven. Sorry, it's just not ha cars
just is not an ad either, But if you would
like to advertise on our show, please please feel free.
God that's me fucking brutal. It's brutal.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, thanks jerk for bringing it up, because now it's
gonna be in my head. And it's like on Curb
when he was seeing the JG wentward seven seven cashed out.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh, there's this one that always plays in between, that
plays in between the Phillies games on the radio. It's
like some plumbing Daniels plumbing and thing. It's like a
do wops And I sing it all day to Gabe
but it's like so funny. I'm like, I can't help,
(14:17):
but it's just stuck in my head.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
We're giving a lot of people free advertisement right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I don't know if these places are any good. I
don't even know, Like, if you think about it, you're like,
what are these? Oh okay, it's a plumber. What's the
other one? Cars for Kids? Like, what do they actually do?
I don't even know. I just know the song. I
never really looked into it. It's k KRS Cars for
Kids that did you ever see they have like a
music video, they have a commercial on TV where they
(14:44):
where they play. It's just it's it's really not as exciting.
They could have really done more with that.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Well, we listen to New Jersey one to one point
five like our entire lives, right, and I only ever
heard it on there. And then when we went up
to New York one time in the last ten years,
it's the first time I ever saw a billboard for it,
and I was like, I couldn't have even told me.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I see it all the time, and I don't even
want to look at the billboard because then I start
saying it. All right, we're getting off topic, all right.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
We reported a while back about influencer Emily Kisser's three
year old son, who died in an accidental drowning at
their home. So more informations come out about that, including
that she was out with her friends that night while
her husband was at home with the toddler and their
newborn son. He told police that he lost sight of
the toddler for three to five minutes before finding him
in the pool. They brought him to the hospital. He
(15:32):
died six days later. So now police are recommending a
class four felony charge of child abuse against the husband.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I keep seeing this, so every single place is reporting this,
and I always go to the comments so that, like
some of the stuff I'll say to you right now,
has not been reported by the news, so I don't
know if it's accurate. But a lot of people in
the comments were saying that she, like Maria, had said
that she was out with her friends and he was
(16:00):
home with the baby and the toddler, and that she
got some kind of alert on her phone that like
a pool alarm. I guess you could put an alarm
on your pool to see if anybody goes into it
or goes near it or something. And she had texted
the husband and then she called him and he didn't
get back to her, and that she had sent the
(16:21):
police to the house. Now I don't know if that's true,
because obviously, when they're reporting this, there's so many comments
just because of Internet trolls, there's so many comments underneath
that are like, these parents should be drowned, they should
do this, they should do that, And then a lot
of their friends go on these posts and try to
(16:43):
set the record straight as to what happened or whatever.
So we don't really know what happened because remember she
went in and like blocked all of the records from
being released, which I don't blame her because she's a
social media influencer and people will like, you don't want
everybody up in your business like that.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I guess, yeah, I guess it's like but at.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
The same time, everybody walls up all in her business
in a positive way. So that's why people feel like
they want to know answers, because.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I understand doing so. She filed a lawsuit to conceal
the records, so none of the records can be released
until they make a decision, right like while the case
is pending. I understand wanting to do that so you
can grieve in private, which is her goal in all
of this. But at the same time, I think by
not releasing them, you're allowing trolls to theorize what happened
(17:35):
and maybe make it worse, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Well, this is the thing though, because and I could
be wrong because I don't know the details in this,
but if people are assuming that there's more to this story,
could they possibly be correct? Because now we're learning that
he's getting charged, like I'm sorry, but if a guy
(18:02):
is sitting on the couch like and goes to the
fridge to warm up a bottle and the kid went
outside and fell in the pool, I don't see that
he would get charged with a with a child abuse felony.
Like there has to be because there was cameras everywhere.
There has to be more to the story that they
that they determined that there was some kind of actual neglect.
(18:27):
Let me read to you what the Arizona state law
is for a class four felony child abuse. It says
a person commits child abuse if they cause physical injury
to a child or a honorable adult. It's also considered
child abuse if someone has the custody of a child
or a vulnerable adult and allows abuse to take place
or causes the person in their care to be in
(18:47):
a situation where they are endangered if the abuse was
likely to result in serious physical injury or death. Like, So,
that means to me that they looked at the videos
and they determined that he put him he was in
a situation that he was in danger, which is like
a little bit more than an actual accident.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, I guess that's broad because it's like is the
situation like he intentionally put him in a dangerous situation
thinking this, like knowing this would be the result? Or
was it as broad as they didn't have a cover
or protection around the pool that obviously would lead Why
would that just be child? Why would that just be
(19:31):
put on the father and not the mother? Because that's
just what I'm saying because he was a super supervisor.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
That's why it makes me think it's not because like
let's say, let's use my house as the same exact thing,
Like I'm out with my friends, gaves home, something happens,
like why wouldn't I get in trouble too? It's my house,
Like that's what I'm saying. It's very specific just to
the dad, which is makes me think it doesn't have
to do with the regulations of the house.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Further, it's hard to say because because of the records
being sealed, you know what I'm saying. So it's like,
I feel like I understand if she's genuinely saying, I
just want to grieve in private, But by keeping them concealed,
you're also allowing people to imagine the absolute worst, cause
it kind of looks like you're hiding something.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Listen, I can't even imagine what this woman's going through. No,
I mean listen, Like I'm not a fan of the
family social media influencer things, but like, no one deserves
to lose their child, And even if she was doing
this as a job and even semi exploiting her family,
like she doesn't deserve a dead kid in this type
(20:42):
of way. And I can't even imagine. You know, you're
with your husband. I mean, I'm assuming they were together,
they're in love, they just had a baby, and just
having to number one, like forgive someone for something like that,
I don't even know how you your relationship could possibly
so that. But then you also have to, like you
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have a baby that has a whole life ahead of
them that you don't want to live in the shadow
of your dead kid and all the turmoil between you
and your husband either, Like this chick has a really
rough couple years ahead of her.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Especially if he does end up going to jail.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
So I mean, I don't and like maybe they weren't
doing the right thing by like not having this and
not having that. Like I surely tell you guys all
the time that I'm crazy with stuff in my house
and things looking ugly. I don't think i'd ever skip
a safety feature because of it. I would just figure
out a way around that. But I can't even imagine
(21:47):
what she's going through. And I guess the last thing
that she wants to do is just let people further.
I mean, like she's not stopping whatever she's trying to stop,
and like you're saying, she could possibly be making it worse. Well.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Also, it's important to note that this was just a
recommended charge by the police department, and he has not
been arrested at least as of when we're recording.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
This, so it was unusual. Though some of the wording
in the articles was like he was getting charged with
that for it said like a previous offense or something
like that. Like it was just written weird. And there's
just more to this story. I just believe there is,
because listen, kids drown all the time. We're going to
talk about that more later in this episode too. Actually
(22:32):
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actually facing a lot of criticism for hiring a lifeguard
at her kid's birthday party.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
This is shocking to me actually, Like if you talk,
I can't imagine talking to one mother that would be like,
you're being ridiculous for hiring a lifeguard for a birthday party.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It seems like somebody that's salty because they don't have
the ability to do it. I mean, what parent is like, oh,
you were too safe for my child, Like this is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Like I'm I think that there are definitely people that
are like extra per call and just with stuff, for sure,
but I don't think that drowning is one of them.
We've been like, it's the theme of this week's episode.
We did Malcolm Jamal Warner yesterday. Now we're doing this one.
(24:18):
This kid, this social media influencer's child that died in
a pool. Thirty five hundred to four thousand people die drowning.
That's ten drownings a day, every single day in America,
ten people are down are drowning. And it's the leading
cause of death in children ages one to four, leading
cause of death in children one to four years old. Pool.
(24:41):
It's not it's not specific to the pool. However, of
these specific cases of these children, it's the Like I said,
it's the number one leading cause of death in children
of that age. Eighty percent of children that die in
this situation, eighty percent are at a pool or a
(25:03):
hot tub at a home of residential home when they're
are adults present. That's out. That's an outrageous statistic. Think
about that. So why would this mother be wrong for
having a lifeguard at her house with a pool filled
with little kids of that age range especially well.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I think this quote from the article is good, which
is if everyone is watching, it means nobody is watching
because everybody's glazing over. They're not really fully paying attention,
and that is why a lifeguard is important, because it's
one hundred percent their job.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I've had three pool parties at the house for the kids' school,
like their whole class comes, and I've gotten one of
Gabe's friend's kids to come lifeguard every single one because
I'll be outside and somebody, can I have a drink?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Do you have this? Do you have that?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Running in the house? Go in here. Ultimately it's my house.
I'm the one that's responsible, and the moms are there.
There's a lot of moms there, but like moms are
talking to each other, they're not staring at their kid
in the pool the whole entire time. And I know
my kids know the pool, it's their pool. They feel
comfortable with it. I feel a little bit less crazy
(26:14):
having to watch them in that situation, but I always
am outside with them, of course, but like other kids
that had never been in my pool before, it certainly is.
It's just scary and it's my responsibility that owning the pool.
For our Fourth of July party, there were a lot
of it just was a little bit of a different
situation because number one, there were sixty firefighters at my
(26:37):
house that also can do rescue people if there's a situation.
But adults were in the pool with the kids and
everybody was just kind of like sitting there and there
wasn't With the kids pool party, it gets a little
crazy because the kids jump in and they jump on
each other and there's just lots of different things that
could happen. That's another thing just besides drowning, like the
(26:58):
kids jumping in the pool and hitting another kid underneath
might incapacitate them that they can't come up to the water.
And people just need to get it through their head
that when a person drowns, it's quiet. It's not this
like flowling in the water and water splashing everywhere, and
before you know it, you turn around. If the kids
(27:18):
upside down in the pool, like you might not be
able to get them back after that. It's so scary
and I just I think it's I'm actually shocked by
it that people are aren't like, wow, that was genius,
love you to do that.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Because they're just always had This is always playing into
my theory of you could give all your money to
kids dying from cancer and whatever, somebody's gonna always think
you're an asshole, like it doesn't matter. This mom did
the right thing. Most people can agree everything she did
was right and safe, but there has to be one
bitter betty over in the corner that's like you really
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hired a lifeguard. That's so dramatic, like is it? And
like it's my money, so mind your business, bitch.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
And listen like a lifeguard is also a false sense
of security. I think it's definitely better because like when
I have Amelia her name has come over to my house.
She is sitting on the side of the pool, looking
into the pool. She's not sitting with us, hanging with us, partying.
She's sitting there. She's got a whistle and she's looking
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at the kids in the pool. And her only job
is to sit It's not to socialize. It's to sit
there and look at the kids in the pool. And
she has a whistle and she uses it and she
yells at them when they're getting out of line. And
I think that that's scare kids because if I was like, guys, bait, guys,
stop it, they don't. They don't listen to me when
I talk, like I say that all the time, Like
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I could say that, but if Amelia is there, she'll
blow her whistle and shit, they get scared. They get
scared of her, you know what I mean. And I
don't think it's bad at all, honestly. And there's plenty
of like all around you, there's swim clubs and there's
all kids that are in there they do swim and stuff.
There's plenty of kids that would be willing to do it,
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like younger kids, college kids and stuff like that. And
I don't I mean, obviously, like everybody can't afford to
do that, but I definitely don't think that people should
be saying that that's dumb.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
No, And they're saying that if a lifeguard isn't in
your budget, that you could use this water watcher system,
which is basically just adults switching off on who's watching
them exactly time. Yeah, And there's always you know, parents
always come to the party and you could be like,
all right, you're on for ten minutes and then we'll
switch and stuff like.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Kids are kids. And when you hear that the leading
cause of death that that age range is from pools,
that should be your number one focus to make sure
that they're protected from that pool.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
All right. So this family was at the Great Wolflage
in Virginia when a man went up to their seven
year old son, placed his hand on the boy's head,
asked him to remove his talent and go down the
slide with him, And then when the boy tried to
get away from him, the guy grabbed his shirt. So
of course the family freaking out and calls police. The
review and then find that the guy was a guest
in the hotel.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
There should never be a situation where there is a
single man that is staying, a single person in general,
staying at that hotel without a child. There is absolutely
nothing there to do without a child.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
That is exactly what I was gonna say. I think people,
you know, I obviously everybody makes fun of me for it.
I live in this world where like you're guilty until
you prove it, is it right? But like people really
need to be more observant of adults that are in
these children places without their own family members, right, Like
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these single people walking around, it's not it's accept except
in Disney World, then it's completely acceptable. But it's not
really acceptable in Disney World.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Honestly, now it's what But like adults go to Disney World,
it is a very it's a very interesting thing because
there'll be I mean there. This is like because the
thing is is that there are adult things to do
in Disney World, like and you could drink wine and
you could go do or you could go on rides
to if you want to do that, right, totally, Great
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Wolf Lodge is like, first of all, it is the
worst place in the world that I've ever been on
the planet. It's torture for a parent. I brought my
kids there once because I try not to be that
kind of parent. That's like I'm not doing anything because
I can't stand to be in these environments. But it's
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just it's just a nightmare of bacterial infection. Gross, like
whole it smelled like chemicals so bad and just lots
of people and expensive for nothing, and just the whole
entire thing of it was terrible. I hate that place.
But like there's there's nothing there that's for adults. There's
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just nothing there that's for adults, Like I guess in theory,
like adults like going on water slides and stuff too.
But just it's just weird because that whole entire place
is geared towards children, So I would be suspicious of
anyone going there alone, because it's not I mean, I
guess it's a hotel, but like there's all there's other
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hotels around. Why would you go there? Why would anyone
in their right mind want to be there unless they
had to be there with their kids. That's what I'm
trying to say.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, it really is the worst place on earth.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's not like I mean, Disney's different, but whatever. I
just want to listen, Like if you're thinking about pedophiles
and stuff, like where are they going to go? They're
going to go places where they're children. That's why they're
teachers and you know what I mean, they get they
put themselves in situations where they could have access.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
No, it's really disturbing. At least in this case, this
guy got arrested, was denied bond. They where was this at?
It was in Virginia, but the man was from North
Carolina because being held in the Virginia Virginia. So yeah, yeah,
go Virginia, because I don't think people are often in
Virginia's quarter.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
We have a story of a case later on tomorrow's
episode of a person that got bailed for an unthinkable
So I mean, good for good for Virginia in this case.
All right, what about so this this next case that
we're going to talk about is local to Austin, Jersey
down the shore, and it it happened last year actually,
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but I guess the guy just got sentenced or whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I mean, this really isn't surprising to me. Is is
it surprising for you? This guy in Wildwood? He was
in Wildwood, he's from keepe May. His daughter was holding
French fries and the seagull swooped down and tried to
grab one, which anybody that goes to the I don't
know where if seagulls are at every single beach, but
they're local to hear right, every single They're like, we
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have to start.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
This by really describing the seagulls. Though they're a problem.
They associate people with food. They I mean, Lillian got
pooped on one last year. Getting pooped on by one
is not that big of a deal. The thing is
is that they become violent. Like if you're carrying a
piece of pizza and walking up the boardwalk, it will
come and take it off your plate. They will attack you.
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If you're holding French fries and one falls on the ground,
there'll be a swarm of them that come near you.
But it is well known as a Jersey person that
they are off limits to try to hurt. They're migratory birds.
They you're not allowed to touch them, and they're signs
all up over the place that say that you could
get in a lot of trouble for doing so.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
In this case, the seagull swoops down to get the
French fries from his daughter. He takes said siegull, and
then doesn't just like hurt it. He decapitates the bird
in front of other people, goes up to workers on
the boardwalk and ask them if he could dispose of
it somewhere. Obviously, people are horrified. They call police. He's
arrested and now he's been indicted by a grand jury
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for animal abuse.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
How did he take the head off? He ripped it
off or he like cut it off with a knife
or something. Dude, they don't say it. They just say
that they deca so all on picturing. I've been to
Wildwood a million times. I'm picturing walking up the boardwalk
and some guy holding the he I think he thought
he was like a hero. Yes, Like, why do too?
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Why wouldn't you hide that shit?
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Honestly, when it said this went down in Wildwood, I
was like, obviously it happened there, like your else?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Would it happened this city?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Please? No? I No matter how he took the bird's
head off, whether he like ripped its head off or
cut it with a knife, it's so disturbing. And he
just did it in front of other people. Can you
imagine just he.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Did it as like a trophy, because because everybody, I mean,
like I guess from his perspective, like everyone hates the
seagulls and they suck. So he was like, yeah, I
did something about it now, like I'm the hero, and
everybody was like, yo, dude, you took that way too far.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Can you imagine? I picture us as a family just
walking down the boardwalk, drinking our coke, eating some crab
fries and looking over and being like what is happening?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah? So the thing is though, and like, to me,
he should be in all of this trouble because even
though they're pestian stuff, there's like a certain line you
don't cross, and that's that to me, just says a
lot of different things about this guy not being able
to control his emotions, and that's that actually scares me
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for him to be around other people, because that to
me is like a lot like a line was crossed, right,
And there's all these studies done about Obviously we've heard
all the ones about children harming animals and things like
that and growing up to have anti social behaviors, but
there's also a strong association with adults that do things
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like this, having alcohol use disorder or gambling addiction, anti
social personality disorder and things like that. So this isn't
just like some wholesome dad at the beach and just
like flipped on this seagull. There's like way more going
on behind the scenes with this dude.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Well, he also pleaded not guilty, which I'm really interested.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I have him like, yeah, there's probably like cameras of him.
I mean, he he just because he's he played guilty
doesn't mean he didn't do it. It just means that
he feels it was justified.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
So I have Jerry duty in two weeks and.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I'm that would be It's not in kpe May County though.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
No, it's not the same. It's not the same county,
but people.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
That are listening right now that live in kpe May
County are lucky. This is a good case.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
It is a good case. But I'm just like, you know,
I sit here and I'm like, we live in the
middle of like nowhere, Like what could possibly be going
on here?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
That's interesting? But then these cases pop Upait, Wait.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
You're in a different You're in Burlington County. Yeah, yeah,
so you're not gonna have too much interesting, although there's
been One of my friends works at the Medical Examiner's
office there, and there are some crazy shit that happened
there sometimes a couple of years ago, so like, there's
always a chance.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Do you think they're possibly gonna let me partake in
Jerry duty? When I filled out the form and they
said what is your job? And I put I have
a true crime podcast, I feel like you.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Just throw it in the trash.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I can't. I am a rule follower and I'm nosy,
so I kind of want to go so I won't
get called because I want to go, you know what
I mean. Whatever, But the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of
nineteen eighteen has made it illegal to pursue, hunt, take, capture, kill,
or sell seagulls or other migratory birds. So this has
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been illegal for over one hundred years. It's not a surprise.
I really wonder how this trial is gonna go down
with this guy trying to say he didn't do it,
because I guarantee you somebody videoed him doing it.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
There's cameras on the boardwalk, so he's beat.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah. All right, let's talk about this new trend which
is called freeze branding. So actually I came across this
a while ago and I wanted to write an article
on it for the Gross Room. But then when I
was researching it, there was barely any videos or any
news articles discussing it. So I was like, I don't
really know what it is, and I'm going to wait.
So now I'm interested that it's finally popping up in
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the news.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Well, apparently, in nineteen sixty six a doctor had created
this less painful way to mark animals for identification instead
of branding them with a hot iron, because apparently the
cold iron doesn't hurt as much. So people are taking
that and deciding to put this iron in liquid nitrogen
or something to really freeze it up, and then branding
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their own skin with it to leave like a scark
type of tattoo and all dermatologists and physicians are advising
against this because when they originally came up with this
concept to do cattle or horses, their skin is really
thick and could and handle that. But our skin so
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thin that burning it with liquid nitrogen like that could
actually cause second, third, and even fourth degree burns, which
could lead to cellulitis and then sepsis and ultimately death
or amputations.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I just don't understand why we're like this conversation is
gonna come up every week. Why are we living in
a society where you see something online and then you
think it's a good idea and then you go for
it and do it.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Well. It can be sometimes if it's like a craft project.
I made that pizza that I made yesterday was like
a viral tic tac raft.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
It's now doing a medical procedure on your I don't know.
I guess you could argue it about traditional tattooing too,
but I mean, it's just been around so much longer.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
But what happens in this with the the cold branding
is really interesting is that the cells get frozen, and
the melanocytes in the skin, which are responsible for your
skin color, they can get killed off. So it makes
you have a scar that's white and doesn't have any pigment,
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which is cool because you could see the pattern of it.
The problem is is when you don't have any melanocytes
in your skin, it has zero protection against UV rays,
so you could get just serious burns or anything like that.
Having a large and you know some of these things
that people are doing or large it could be their
their whole entire arm or something. It's similar to a
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person that's that's an albino or something that has a
lack of these melanocytes pigments in their cells and the
risk they are at getting serious burns because of it.
So it's just kind of like why people don't realize
that your skin is an organ. I obviously didn't realize
that before I started getting tattooed, because I never would
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have gotten it done if I knew what I know.
But like just to think, like, would you brand like
your liver? No, you'd be like, no, I'm not going
to do that. Well, it's the same. It's the same.
It's just your skin is your number one defense against
the outside world.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Apparently this isn't the dumbest hack people are doing lately
online because the article also referenced how dermatologists have spoken
out about other things that just people lining their lips
with sharpies and wording that it could lead to toxins
into their bloodstream, and also putting hemorrhoid cream under their
eyes because it could lead to glaucoma. Oh cool, So maybe.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I'm gonna ask my I know the hemorrhoid cream on.
My kids have asked me about it before, so I
know that they've seen that. I'm going to ask them
about the stupid sharpie one.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
So I think when you see a beauty hack that's like,
you know, let's think of a popular one, which is
the robe curls, Like you take the strap from your
robe and you put it on your head and you
take your wet hair and wrap it around it to
give you nice curls. That is a harmless beauty heck,
when you're putting like other cream.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
What about the Pilei Jenner lip challenge with the sucking
of the model.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Well, well this is the.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Problem though, because the kid comes across the video and
thing that these things are cool, and then they get hurt.
It's they look like they have a giant hickey on
their face for a week so the best was that
she was like, I was like, what happened to your lip?
Like I could tell that it looks like a suction wound, right,
And She's like, oh, I fell on the bottle And
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I'm like, yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
The old I fell on it. Drick ain't working with
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
Guys, welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have a great
episode for you today. We have a couple of updates
on some stories we've covered over the past couple of weeks,
including a social media influencer's son who died and drowned
in the family swimming pool, and we have the results
of Michael Madison's autopsy too. We'll get into the death
of singer Connie Francis, a mom criticized for hiring a
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lifeguard and attempted kidnapping at a popular children's resort, annoying
seagulls at the Jersey Shore, and one man's gruesome solution
to getting rid of one of them. We'll also discuss
the latest DIY body trend that's going viral. All that
and more on today's episode. Let's get into Michael Madsen's death.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
So we had been critical because they said he died
from cardiac or esp but now they've elaborated a little
more on it, and I'm not going to try to
pronounce these things, so you could tell everybody what it says.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, it said that he had a combination of cardio myopathy,
coronary artery disease, chronic alcoholism, and thrombo embolytic disease.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So that's basically everything that you said.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, I mean, we know that he had a history
of alcoholism. It's really interesting because alcohol when I learned
in school anyway, was that alcohol could have an effect
on the heart and call something called dilated cardio myopathy.
But I just saw that there was a recent study
done saying that that isn't the case, and they really
just think that it was that it's underlying genetic conditions
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that are causing these people to get cardiomopathy. And then
I learned in school that alcohol was bad for you,
and now it might not be bad for you and
the like as far as your heart health goes.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So who knows where how can it not be bad
for your heart if it's bad for other parts of
your body.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
The thing is is that there were studies done that
showed that mild drinking could actually improve cardiovascular health, especially
with the cornary arteries.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Right.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I think we did actually talk about that maybe a
year or two ago, and then now they just they
just go back and forth and say that sometimes it
has a good effect on the arteries, and sometimes it doesn't.
So I don't know where we're sitting right now, because
the heart is just one of these things, like coffee's
really bad for you. Okay, maybe one cup of coffee
is actually good for you. You know, it goes back
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and forth all the time.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So I can't hear this coffee slander. It's the only
vice I have. Just please let me have it.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Oh, go ahead and have it. I don't care. But
I mean I loved I love coffee too, not as
much as I used to, but I do drink it
almost every day still, but only like once because I
can't sleep anymore. But regardless, so just drinking long term.
If they're saying that he had chronic alcoholism, I'm assuming
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that they saw some kind of damage to the liver,
either like a fatty liver disease or even early stages
of cirrhosis could have been possible. He had coronary artery disease. Again,
we can't exactly say if that was because of the drinking,
but regardless, he was He was almost sixty years old,
so that just happens when you age in certain different
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people too. Thrombo embolytic disease means that sometimes a thrombus
is a blood clot, and embolytic means it moved, so
it means that he could have been having blood clots
that were traveling around his body. So everything that happened,
it's just because really it seems like he was having
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a poor lifestyle. It sucks because a lot of the
articles were saying that he had sobered up recently, and
they said that he had some kind of test done
to check his coronary arteries like months ago. So I
don't understand if he was waiting to get a procedure
done or what that procedure showed, because it did say
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that he had coronary artery disease. So obviously they may
not have fixed what the problem was, if they even
solve a problem when they did the testing. So, you know,
I was thinking, we watched Kill Bill last week just
because we talked about Michael Madsen, and I was like,
I need to watch that again. I love that movie,
both of them, and in that movie, that movie's from
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two thousand and three. He was my age in that
movie and he looks pretty old.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah. I was just about to say that now when
you put it in perspective and you're like, that was
twenty years ago. I'm like, wow, he really didn't good
for his age. Yeah, he just looked like he looked
like he had. And I know that that was part
of his character to look like he had a rough life,
like that was part of the he was playing. But
he just he looked like like he had. He looked
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like he really did have a rough life. That wasn't
makeup or anything. I mean, that's what he looked like
back then.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
So and I love I absolutely love him and his
cat all of his characters that he played. So it's sad,
but this is just this is just something. So it's
just kind of a bummer because sometimes you hear people
have these drug addictions or any kind of alcohol addiction,
smoking cigarettes and stuff, and they really are like trying
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to get their life back together and they stop doing
whatever they're doing and then they die shortly after, and
you're kind of like, sometimes the damage is just so
great that there's no going back from it, you know.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, all right. Iconic singer Connie Francis has died at
eighty seven years old. So I really like her music
as somebody that loves vintage things. But the youths might
know her because her song pretty Little Baby recently went
viral on TikTok, and it's been used truly in every
other video I've seen on Instagram. Yeah, I used it
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in a clip recently because it's going viral. But I
love that song. I think it's awesome and she's an
awesome singer. And this is a bummer.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
I have my volume off at all times because you know,
I get triggered by sounds in videos. We know we
could have mom someone wrote, Someone wrote a comment under
one of my recent videos and was like, Hi, why
haven't you been putting sound?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Like?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
What's up with that? And I'm like, dude, I never
I rarely put sound behind because it's so triggering to me.
I hate the sound of it. But Connie Francis, you
know what, whenever I hear the name Connie Francis, do
you know what I think about? What the craft? Why
do you do? So you don't know what that? Well,
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anybody that's listening to me knows exactly what I'm about
to say right now. So remember Nancy who what was
that actress's name for? Didn't shit for USA? Something?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I forge? I forget her. You know, I know exactly
who you're talking about. Yeah, the one that kind of
looks like you does Nines in the nineties. Yeah, I
kind of have that look. I guess, yes, murder me
if I posted any picture of you that even closely
resembled her, because I had gang my gang member pictured,
(07:20):
Please pose that I have one of you, me and
Lily on the fridge. I'm probably like three or four
in the picture. Louie is also a little kid, and
you definitely have that like flipped, black dyed haircut and
like the dark lip liner and lipstick. Anyway, Prissy, that was.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
That was the look anyway. In the movie she has
she lives in like kind of a white trash situation
in a trailer, and she's got this mom who has
a boyfriend that's like drunk all the time and beaten
on her. And then something once she gets her powers,
something happens and the I guess the trailer that there
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ain't gets like struck by lightning or something, and the
guy starts having a heart attack. He dies, and then
they're like the mom sitting there crying, and then this
guy comes over that's like an insurance agent and lets
them know that this total loser had some kind of
insurance policy and they were getting a lot of money.
So then all of a sudden, the mom becomes really
rich and gets this condo with like white carpets and stuff,
(08:18):
and she's like, I've always had a dream my whole
life to have a jukebox that only plays Connie Francis.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's it's so great.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
But so I love that part of the movie just
because it's hilarious. But really, the thing that sucks is
that Connie Francis sued this a couple companies that were
using her songs in movies because she thought that they
were morally corrupt. Oh really yeah, Like she didn't like
that the like it was being used in like sex
scenes with certain movies like Jawbreaker and what was that
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other one called that it was in Postcards from America
and the Craft. Obviously, like she just she sued because
she said that they were using her music without asking
and she wasn't getting paid royalties.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
So I want to talk about her history. She has
kind of like she's had a couple traumatic things happen
to her. So first I want to start off with
her born name was Conchetta which is your grandmother's name,
by great grandmother's name, which is the coolest name ever
it is. And she had to Americanize her name after
going on Arthur Godfrey's TV show Star Time Talent Scouts,
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so they told her they had to make her name
easier to say because her like crazy Italian name was
too hard for all us idiot American people. So she
was really popular in the sixties. And then in nineteen
seventy four, she survived a rape and robbery in her
hotel room following a performance at Westbury Music Fair, and
then she ended up suing that hotel and won, but
she was in a deep depression from that. In nineteen
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eighty one, her brother was murdered, which is further deep
in her depression. And then in nineteen seventy seven she
had nasal surgery which caused her to lose her singing voice.
And I wanted to bring that point up in particular
because there's a new documentary on Barbara Walters, and there's
a supercut going around of all the horrific questions she's
ever asked people in interviews, one of which was when
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she asked Barbara streisand was she never got a nose
job and she.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
She's so mean.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yes, she would.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
She asked like, what did she say? She said something
to Elizabeth Teller about her weight or something.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
She said it to Elizabeth Teller about her weight. She
also had this one pisses me off in particular because
I love Dolly Parton more than anything. She like referred
to her as a redneck. I believe she also asked
her really inappropriate questions about the way she looked versus her,
and yeah she did. Yeah, And I just think, I mean,
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this could be probably a whole episode in itself, but
she was an extremely disgruntled person that took it out
on other people, clearly. But the point that was brought
up was that maybe Barbara didn't want to get the
surgery because she didn't want to affect her saying voice
as we could see it had been to Connie Francis.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
So oh, wait of her voice, you mean her talking voice?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Because why would you even go in the area in
which I could possibly be affected if your primary job.
I'm not criticizing Connie France as I'm saying for Barber Streis,
And why would she even take the gamble?
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't. I wouldn't either. I
mean I say that, I say that all the time,
Like with the eye surgery and stuff, I would just
never get it done because you wouldn't be able to
do your job anymore or what you love to do.
I mean, I just can't even imagine that. But I
mean sometimes you have to get surgery whatever. So she
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ended up dying from pneumonia. She was eighty seven. I
don't know, it's like this category of if you make
it to eighty seven, then that's amazing. That's really old age.
And she had a really like a long life. She
had a lot of years of life. So I guess
she had some kind of injury to her hip a
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few months or maybe even in the beginning of the year.
And just sometimes with older people, if they get something
as simple as like break their hip, it's like all
of a sudden, they just go downhill from there. And
they could have been totally fine up until that point,
but just being in the house, not being able to
move around and things like that just can make them
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downgrade like very quickly. And that's what happened. She got
some kind of infection and got it it went into
her lungs and she died as a result of that.
I think it's interesting you brought up the point that
she had sued all these movies for using her song,
and that so many years later the sound ends up
going viral on tatok because obviously anybody could put the
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sound on whatever video they want. And then she ended
up doing a video lip syncing to her own song
like the clip on it, and she was petting.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Her dog, So that's amazing, and she was like, it's
kind of crazy, I'm lip syncing to a song I
recorded over sixty years ago. Yeah, so that was cool.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Though, car though, Yeah, I wouldn't mind to have a
jukebox with Connie Francis playing all day honestly exclusively.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I don't know the moro was hearing it. The moro
is like, this is getting into horror movie territory where
it's just in the back of my mind this one
particular verse all day long and it can't go away,
and it was like haunting me for a couple of weeks.
So I don't know. Definitely a bummer that she died,
all right.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
That's how I feel about the one eight hundred cars
for kids. Oh my god, thank you.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
No, seriously, you're.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
One eight seven seven. Sorry, it's just not ha cars
just is not an ad either, But if you would
like to advertise on our show, please please feel free.
God that's me fucking brutal. It's brutal.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, thanks jerk for bringing it up, because now it's
gonna be in my head. And it's like on Curb
when he was seeing the JG wentward seven seven cashed out.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Oh, there's this one that always plays in between, that
plays in between the Phillies games on the radio. It's
like some plumbing Daniels plumbing and thing. It's like a
do wops And I sing it all day to Gabe
but it's like so funny. I'm like, I can't help,
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but it's just stuck in my head.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
We're giving a lot of people free advertisement right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
I don't know if these places are any good. I
don't even know, Like, if you think about it, you're like,
what are these? Oh okay, it's a plumber. What's the
other one? Cars for Kids? Like, what do they actually do?
I don't even know. I just know the song. I
never really looked into it. It's k KRS Cars for
Kids that did you ever see they have like a
music video, they have a commercial on TV where they
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where they play. It's just it's it's really not as exciting.
They could have really done more with that.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Well, we listen to New Jersey one to one point
five like our entire lives, right, and I only ever
heard it on there. And then when we went up
to New York one time in the last ten years,
it's the first time I ever saw a billboard for it,
and I was like, I couldn't have even told me.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I see it all the time, and I don't even
want to look at the billboard because then I start
saying it. All right, we're getting off topic, all right.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
We reported a while back about influencer Emily Kisser's three
year old son, who died in an accidental drowning at
their home. So more informations come out about that, including
that she was out with her friends that night while
her husband was at home with the toddler and their
newborn son. He told police that he lost sight of
the toddler for three to five minutes before finding him
in the pool. They brought him to the hospital. He
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died six days later. So now police are recommending a
class four felony charge of child abuse against the husband.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I keep seeing this, so every single place is reporting this,
and I always go to the comments so that, like
some of the stuff I'll say to you right now,
has not been reported by the news, so I don't
know if it's accurate. But a lot of people in
the comments were saying that she, like Maria, had said
that she was out with her friends and he was
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home with the baby and the toddler, and that she
got some kind of alert on her phone that like
a pool alarm. I guess you could put an alarm
on your pool to see if anybody goes into it
or goes near it or something. And she had texted
the husband and then she called him and he didn't
get back to her, and that she had sent the
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police to the house. Now I don't know if that's true,
because obviously, when they're reporting this, there's so many comments
just because of Internet trolls, there's so many comments underneath
that are like, these parents should be drowned, they should
do this, they should do that, And then a lot
of their friends go on these posts and try to
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set the record straight as to what happened or whatever.
So we don't really know what happened because remember she
went in and like blocked all of the records from
being released, which I don't blame her because she's a
social media influencer and people will like, you don't want
everybody up in your business like that.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I guess, yeah, I guess it's like but at.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
The same time, everybody walls up all in her business
in a positive way. So that's why people feel like
they want to know answers, because.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I understand doing so. She filed a lawsuit to conceal
the records, so none of the records can be released
until they make a decision, right like while the case
is pending. I understand wanting to do that so you
can grieve in private, which is her goal in all
of this. But at the same time, I think by
not releasing them, you're allowing trolls to theorize what happened
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and maybe make it worse, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Well, this is the thing though, because and I could
be wrong because I don't know the details in this,
but if people are assuming that there's more to this story,
could they possibly be correct? Because now we're learning that
he's getting charged, like I'm sorry, but if a guy
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is sitting on the couch like and goes to the
fridge to warm up a bottle and the kid went
outside and fell in the pool, I don't see that
he would get charged with a with a child abuse felony.
Like there has to be because there was cameras everywhere.
There has to be more to the story that they
that they determined that there was some kind of actual neglect.
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Let me read to you what the Arizona state law
is for a class four felony child abuse. It says
a person commits child abuse if they cause physical injury
to a child or a honorable adult. It's also considered
child abuse if someone has the custody of a child
or a vulnerable adult and allows abuse to take place
or causes the person in their care to be in
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a situation where they are endangered if the abuse was
likely to result in serious physical injury or death. Like, So,
that means to me that they looked at the videos
and they determined that he put him he was in
a situation that he was in danger, which is like
a little bit more than an actual accident.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, I guess that's broad because it's like is the
situation like he intentionally put him in a dangerous situation
thinking this, like knowing this would be the result? Or
was it as broad as they didn't have a cover
or protection around the pool that obviously would lead Why
would that just be child? Why would that just be
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put on the father and not the mother? Because that's
just what I'm saying because he was a super supervisor.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
That's why it makes me think it's not because like
let's say, let's use my house as the same exact thing,
Like I'm out with my friends, gaves home, something happens,
like why wouldn't I get in trouble too? It's my house,
Like that's what I'm saying. It's very specific just to
the dad, which is makes me think it doesn't have
to do with the regulations of the house.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Further, it's hard to say because because of the records
being sealed, you know what I'm saying. So it's like,
I feel like I understand if she's genuinely saying, I
just want to grieve in private, But by keeping them concealed,
you're also allowing people to imagine the absolute worst, cause
it kind of looks like you're hiding something.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Listen, I can't even imagine what this woman's going through. No,
I mean listen, Like I'm not a fan of the
family social media influencer things, but like, no one deserves
to lose their child, And even if she was doing
this as a job and even semi exploiting her family,
like she doesn't deserve a dead kid in this type
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of way. And I can't even imagine. You know, you're
with your husband. I mean, I'm assuming they were together,
they're in love, they just had a baby, and just
having to number one, like forgive someone for something like that,
I don't even know how you your relationship could possibly
so that. But then you also have to, like you
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have a baby that has a whole life ahead of
them that you don't want to live in the shadow
of your dead kid and all the turmoil between you
and your husband either, Like this chick has a really
rough couple years ahead of her.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Especially if he does end up going to jail.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
So I mean, I don't and like maybe they weren't
doing the right thing by like not having this and
not having that. Like I surely tell you guys all
the time that I'm crazy with stuff in my house
and things looking ugly. I don't think i'd ever skip
a safety feature because of it. I would just figure
out a way around that. But I can't even imagine
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what she's going through. And I guess the last thing
that she wants to do is just let people further.
I mean, like she's not stopping whatever she's trying to stop,
and like you're saying, she could possibly be making it worse. Well.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Also, it's important to note that this was just a
recommended charge by the police department, and he has not
been arrested at least as of when we're recording.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
This, so it was unusual. Though some of the wording
in the articles was like he was getting charged with
that for it said like a previous offense or something
like that. Like it was just written weird. And there's
just more to this story. I just believe there is,
because listen, kids drown all the time. We're going to
talk about that more later in this episode too. Actually
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actually facing a lot of criticism for hiring a lifeguard
at her kid's birthday party.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
This is shocking to me actually, Like if you talk,
I can't imagine talking to one mother that would be like,
you're being ridiculous for hiring a lifeguard for a birthday party.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
It seems like somebody that's salty because they don't have
the ability to do it. I mean, what parent is like, oh,
you were too safe for my child, Like this is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Like I'm I think that there are definitely people that
are like extra per call and just with stuff, for sure,
but I don't think that drowning is one of them.
We've been like, it's the theme of this week's episode.
We did Malcolm Jamal Warner yesterday. Now we're doing this one.
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This kid, this social media influencer's child that died in
a pool. Thirty five hundred to four thousand people die drowning.
That's ten drownings a day, every single day in America,
ten people are down are drowning. And it's the leading
cause of death in children ages one to four, leading
cause of death in children one to four years old. Pool.
(24:41):
It's not it's not specific to the pool. However, of
these specific cases of these children, it's the Like I said,
it's the number one leading cause of death in children
of that age. Eighty percent of children that die in
this situation, eighty percent are at a pool or a
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hot tub at a home of residential home when they're
are adults present. That's out. That's an outrageous statistic. Think
about that. So why would this mother be wrong for
having a lifeguard at her house with a pool filled
with little kids of that age range especially well.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I think this quote from the article is good, which
is if everyone is watching, it means nobody is watching
because everybody's glazing over. They're not really fully paying attention,
and that is why a lifeguard is important, because it's
one hundred percent their job.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I've had three pool parties at the house for the kids' school,
like their whole class comes, and I've gotten one of
Gabe's friend's kids to come lifeguard every single one because
I'll be outside and somebody, can I have a drink?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Do you have this? Do you have that?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Running in the house? Go in here. Ultimately it's my house.
I'm the one that's responsible, and the moms are there.
There's a lot of moms there, but like moms are
talking to each other, they're not staring at their kid
in the pool the whole entire time. And I know
my kids know the pool, it's their pool. They feel
comfortable with it. I feel a little bit less crazy
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having to watch them in that situation, but I always
am outside with them, of course, but like other kids
that had never been in my pool before, it certainly is.
It's just scary and it's my responsibility that owning the pool.
For our Fourth of July party, there were a lot
of it just was a little bit of a different
situation because number one, there were sixty firefighters at my
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house that also can do rescue people if there's a situation.
But adults were in the pool with the kids and
everybody was just kind of like sitting there and there
wasn't With the kids pool party, it gets a little
crazy because the kids jump in and they jump on
each other and there's just lots of different things that
could happen. That's another thing just besides drowning, like the
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kids jumping in the pool and hitting another kid underneath
might incapacitate them that they can't come up to the water.
And people just need to get it through their head
that when a person drowns, it's quiet. It's not this
like flowling in the water and water splashing everywhere, and
before you know it, you turn around. If the kids
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upside down in the pool, like you might not be
able to get them back after that. It's so scary
and I just I think it's I'm actually shocked by
it that people are aren't like, wow, that was genius,
love you to do that.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Because they're just always had This is always playing into
my theory of you could give all your money to
kids dying from cancer and whatever, somebody's gonna always think
you're an asshole, like it doesn't matter. This mom did
the right thing. Most people can agree everything she did
was right and safe, but there has to be one
bitter betty over in the corner that's like you really
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hired a lifeguard. That's so dramatic, like is it? And
like it's my money, so mind your business, bitch.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
And listen like a lifeguard is also a false sense
of security. I think it's definitely better because like when
I have Amelia her name has come over to my house.
She is sitting on the side of the pool, looking
into the pool. She's not sitting with us, hanging with us, partying.
She's sitting there. She's got a whistle and she's looking
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at the kids in the pool. And her only job
is to sit It's not to socialize. It's to sit
there and look at the kids in the pool. And
she has a whistle and she uses it and she
yells at them when they're getting out of line. And
I think that that's scare kids because if I was like, guys, bait, guys,
stop it, they don't. They don't listen to me when
I talk, like I say that all the time, Like
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I could say that, but if Amelia is there, she'll
blow her whistle and shit, they get scared. They get
scared of her, you know what I mean. And I
don't think it's bad at all, honestly. And there's plenty
of like all around you, there's swim clubs and there's
all kids that are in there they do swim and stuff.
There's plenty of kids that would be willing to do it,
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like younger kids, college kids and stuff like that. And
I don't I mean, obviously, like everybody can't afford to
do that, but I definitely don't think that people should
be saying that that's dumb.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
No, And they're saying that if a lifeguard isn't in
your budget, that you could use this water watcher system,
which is basically just adults switching off on who's watching
them exactly time. Yeah, And there's always you know, parents
always come to the party and you could be like,
all right, you're on for ten minutes and then we'll
switch and stuff like.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Kids are kids. And when you hear that the leading
cause of death that that age range is from pools,
that should be your number one focus to make sure
that they're protected from that pool.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
All right. So this family was at the Great Wolflage
in Virginia when a man went up to their seven
year old son, placed his hand on the boy's head,
asked him to remove his talent and go down the
slide with him, And then when the boy tried to
get away from him, the guy grabbed his shirt. So
of course the family freaking out and calls police. The
review and then find that the guy was a guest
in the hotel.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
There should never be a situation where there is a
single man that is staying, a single person in general,
staying at that hotel without a child. There is absolutely
nothing there to do without a child.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
That is exactly what I was gonna say. I think people,
you know, I obviously everybody makes fun of me for it.
I live in this world where like you're guilty until
you prove it, is it right? But like people really
need to be more observant of adults that are in
these children places without their own family members, right, Like
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these single people walking around, it's not it's accept except
in Disney World, then it's completely acceptable. But it's not
really acceptable in Disney World.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Honestly, now it's what But like adults go to Disney World,
it is a very it's a very interesting thing because
there'll be I mean there. This is like because the
thing is is that there are adult things to do
in Disney World, like and you could drink wine and
you could go do or you could go on rides
to if you want to do that, right, totally, Great
(31:07):
Wolf Lodge is like, first of all, it is the
worst place in the world that I've ever been on
the planet. It's torture for a parent. I brought my
kids there once because I try not to be that
kind of parent. That's like I'm not doing anything because
I can't stand to be in these environments. But it's
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just it's just a nightmare of bacterial infection. Gross, like
whole it smelled like chemicals so bad and just lots
of people and expensive for nothing, and just the whole
entire thing of it was terrible. I hate that place.
But like there's there's nothing there that's for adults. There's
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just nothing there that's for adults, Like I guess in theory,
like adults like going on water slides and stuff too.
But just it's just weird because that whole entire place
is geared towards children, So I would be suspicious of
anyone going there alone, because it's not I mean, I
guess it's a hotel, but like there's all there's other
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hotels around. Why would you go there? Why would anyone
in their right mind want to be there unless they
had to be there with their kids. That's what I'm
trying to say.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, it really is the worst place on earth.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's not like I mean, Disney's different, but whatever. I
just want to listen, Like if you're thinking about pedophiles
and stuff, like where are they going to go? They're
going to go places where they're children. That's why they're
teachers and you know what I mean, they get they
put themselves in situations where they could have access.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
No, it's really disturbing. At least in this case, this
guy got arrested, was denied bond. They where was this at?
It was in Virginia, but the man was from North
Carolina because being held in the Virginia Virginia. So yeah, yeah,
go Virginia, because I don't think people are often in
Virginia's quarter.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
We have a story of a case later on tomorrow's
episode of a person that got bailed for an unthinkable
So I mean, good for good for Virginia in this case.
All right, what about so this this next case that
we're going to talk about is local to Austin, Jersey
down the shore, and it it happened last year actually,
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but I guess the guy just got sentenced or whatever.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I mean, this really isn't surprising to me. Is is
it surprising for you? This guy in Wildwood? He was
in Wildwood, he's from keepe May. His daughter was holding
French fries and the seagull swooped down and tried to
grab one, which anybody that goes to the I don't
know where if seagulls are at every single beach, but
they're local to hear right, every single They're like, we
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have to start.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
This by really describing the seagulls. Though they're a problem.
They associate people with food. They I mean, Lillian got
pooped on one last year. Getting pooped on by one
is not that big of a deal. The thing is
is that they become violent. Like if you're carrying a
piece of pizza and walking up the boardwalk, it will
come and take it off your plate. They will attack you.
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If you're holding French fries and one falls on the ground,
there'll be a swarm of them that come near you.
But it is well known as a Jersey person that
they are off limits to try to hurt. They're migratory birds.
They you're not allowed to touch them, and they're signs
all up over the place that say that you could
get in a lot of trouble for doing so.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
In this case, the seagull swoops down to get the
French fries from his daughter. He takes said siegull, and
then doesn't just like hurt it. He decapitates the bird
in front of other people, goes up to workers on
the boardwalk and ask them if he could dispose of
it somewhere. Obviously, people are horrified. They call police. He's
arrested and now he's been indicted by a grand jury
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for animal abuse.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
How did he take the head off? He ripped it
off or he like cut it off with a knife
or something. Dude, they don't say it. They just say
that they deca so all on picturing. I've been to
Wildwood a million times. I'm picturing walking up the boardwalk
and some guy holding the he I think he thought
he was like a hero. Yes, Like, why do too?
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Why wouldn't you hide that shit?
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Honestly, when it said this went down in Wildwood, I
was like, obviously it happened there, like your else?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Would it happened this city?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Please? No? I No matter how he took the bird's
head off, whether he like ripped its head off or
cut it with a knife, it's so disturbing. And he
just did it in front of other people. Can you
imagine just he.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Did it as like a trophy, because because everybody, I mean,
like I guess from his perspective, like everyone hates the
seagulls and they suck. So he was like, yeah, I
did something about it now, like I'm the hero, and
everybody was like, yo, dude, you took that way too far.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Can you imagine? I picture us as a family just
walking down the boardwalk, drinking our coke, eating some crab
fries and looking over and being like what is happening?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah? So the thing is though, and like, to me,
he should be in all of this trouble because even
though they're pestian stuff, there's like a certain line you
don't cross, and that's that to me, just says a
lot of different things about this guy not being able
to control his emotions, and that's that actually scares me
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for him to be around other people, because that to
me is like a lot like a line was crossed, right,
And there's all these studies done about Obviously we've heard
all the ones about children harming animals and things like
that and growing up to have anti social behaviors, but
there's also a strong association with adults that do things
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like this, having alcohol use disorder or gambling addiction, anti
social personality disorder and things like that. So this isn't
just like some wholesome dad at the beach and just
like flipped on this seagull. There's like way more going
on behind the scenes with this dude.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Well, he also pleaded not guilty, which I'm really interested.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
I have him like, yeah, there's probably like cameras of him.
I mean, he he just because he's he played guilty
doesn't mean he didn't do it. It just means that
he feels it was justified.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
So I have Jerry duty in two weeks and.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I'm that would be It's not in kpe May County though.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
No, it's not the same. It's not the same county,
but people.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
That are listening right now that live in kpe May
County are lucky. This is a good case.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
It is a good case. But I'm just like, you know,
I sit here and I'm like, we live in the
middle of like nowhere, Like what could possibly be going
on here?
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Right?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
That's interesting? But then these cases pop Upait, Wait.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
You're in a different You're in Burlington County. Yeah, yeah,
so you're not gonna have too much interesting, although there's
been One of my friends works at the Medical Examiner's
office there, and there are some crazy shit that happened
there sometimes a couple of years ago, so like, there's
always a chance.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Do you think they're possibly gonna let me partake in
Jerry duty? When I filled out the form and they
said what is your job? And I put I have
a true crime podcast, I feel like you.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Just throw it in the trash.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I can't. I am a rule follower and I'm nosy,
so I kind of want to go so I won't
get called because I want to go, you know what
I mean. Whatever, But the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of
nineteen eighteen has made it illegal to pursue, hunt, take, capture, kill,
or sell seagulls or other migratory birds. So this has
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been illegal for over one hundred years. It's not a surprise.
I really wonder how this trial is gonna go down
with this guy trying to say he didn't do it,
because I guarantee you somebody videoed him doing it.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
There's cameras on the boardwalk, so he's beat.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah. All right, let's talk about this new trend which
is called freeze branding. So actually I came across this
a while ago and I wanted to write an article
on it for the Gross Room. But then when I
was researching it, there was barely any videos or any
news articles discussing it. So I was like, I don't
really know what it is, and I'm going to wait.
So now I'm interested that it's finally popping up in
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the news.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Well, apparently, in nineteen sixty six a doctor had created
this less painful way to mark animals for identification instead
of branding them with a hot iron, because apparently the
cold iron doesn't hurt as much. So people are taking
that and deciding to put this iron in liquid nitrogen
or something to really freeze it up, and then branding
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their own skin with it to leave like a scark
type of tattoo and all dermatologists and physicians are advising
against this because when they originally came up with this
concept to do cattle or horses, their skin is really
thick and could and handle that. But our skin so
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thin that burning it with liquid nitrogen like that could
actually cause second, third, and even fourth degree burns, which
could lead to cellulitis and then sepsis and ultimately death
or amputations.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
I just don't understand why we're like this conversation is
gonna come up every week. Why are we living in
a society where you see something online and then you
think it's a good idea and then you go for
it and do it.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Well. It can be sometimes if it's like a craft project.
I made that pizza that I made yesterday was like
a viral tic tac raft.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
It's now doing a medical procedure on your I don't know.
I guess you could argue it about traditional tattooing too,
but I mean, it's just been around so much longer.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
But what happens in this with the the cold branding
is really interesting is that the cells get frozen, and
the melanocytes in the skin, which are responsible for your
skin color, they can get killed off. So it makes
you have a scar that's white and doesn't have any pigment,
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which is cool because you could see the pattern of it.
The problem is is when you don't have any melanocytes
in your skin, it has zero protection against UV rays,
so you could get just serious burns or anything like that.
Having a large and you know some of these things
that people are doing or large it could be their
their whole entire arm or something. It's similar to a
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person that's that's an albino or something that has a
lack of these melanocytes pigments in their cells and the
risk they are at getting serious burns because of it.
So it's just kind of like why people don't realize
that your skin is an organ. I obviously didn't realize
that before I started getting tattooed, because I never would
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have gotten it done if I knew what I know.
But like just to think, like, would you brand like
your liver? No, you'd be like, no, I'm not going
to do that. Well, it's the same. It's the same.
It's just your skin is your number one defense against
the outside world.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Apparently this isn't the dumbest hack people are doing lately
online because the article also referenced how dermatologists have spoken
out about other things that just people lining their lips
with sharpies and wording that it could lead to toxins
into their bloodstream, and also putting hemorrhoid cream under their
eyes because it could lead to glaucoma. Oh cool, So maybe.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
I'm gonna ask my I know the hemorrhoid cream on.
My kids have asked me about it before, so I
know that they've seen that. I'm going to ask them
about the stupid sharpie one.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
So I think when you see a beauty hack that's like,
you know, let's think of a popular one, which is
the robe curls, Like you take the strap from your
robe and you put it on your head and you
take your wet hair and wrap it around it to
give you nice curls. That is a harmless beauty heck,
when you're putting like other cream.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
What about the Pilei Jenner lip challenge with the sucking
of the model.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
Well, well this is the.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Problem though, because the kid comes across the video and
thing that these things are cool, and then they get hurt.
It's they look like they have a giant hickey on
their face for a week so the best was that
she was like, I was like, what happened to your lip?
Like I could tell that it looks like a suction wound, right,
And She's like, oh, I fell on the bottle And
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I'm like, yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
The old I fell on it. Drick ain't working with
this mom in particular. All right, guys, we will see
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eyes on it and we will keep you updated as
we get more information. All right, Stee Tomar.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
Guys, thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death. As
a reminder, my training is as a pathologist assistant. I
have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy and
pathology education. I am not a doctor and I have
not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without the
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and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform
people based on my experience working in pathology, so they
can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.
Always remember that science is changing every day and the
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