January 18, 2022 • 13 mins
We continues our conversation about marrying a coworker/ working with someone you marry. During the middle of the conversation we got an unexpected visit from our BOSS, Tom Poleman!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What would you talk about on your on your podcast,
fine show? All right, which of us would actually work
with our spouse? I don't think I could do. This
(00:23):
is a continuation of the topic from the Big Show.
I would say inappropriate things and get fired, would call hr.
I couldn't do it, not because nothing against him. I
just need distance from everybody in some space. From everybody
like Jim and Pam in the office seemed like misery
to me. You work directly next to each other, then
(00:45):
you go home and spend every second together. My god,
too much. And then you hear about those couples that
you know they lived together, commute in together, work together.
I'm like, oh god, you do become much. They're savings,
They're saving so much money. Oh I don't care. I'll
spend money to get away from people something. I think
they're all gonna die like fifteen years early. But I mean,
(01:08):
basically you've been Danielle, for instance, Like you've basically been
working with Sheldon since you've been at home, right, I mean,
you guys are in the same house, but we kind
of stay out of each other's way. Like he really
has his little space upstairs and I'm down here and
then when I'm finished down here, I go two floors
up and then like you know, so it's like we
we've space it out. But I keep telling him that
(01:30):
one day, when this is all said and done, I
will be his manager. Because people are always asked, seriously,
people are He's very excited. People are always asking him
for advice in real estate and stuff. And I keep
telling him we could do seminars. There be a coaching
thing you could do. But I said, why are you
(01:51):
giving this away for free? Save it. I'll manage it
and I'll book all your engagements. I'm like, we can
do this, so you know, we'll see. Yeah, we have
a special guest. Everybody going podcast, Chief of Boys, Tom Polman.
(02:13):
What's up, guys. We love Tom. Tom's been here for
how long? In his office? That's that's right. The studio
is in the grounds of his old office. And back
in those humble beginnings, we used to gather in Tom's
office and we used to sit on the floor and
he used to play the guitar for us, drum a
(02:35):
little tune on a Friday. Remember that. How very happy
of all of you. Mutable laws of marketing. That's right, Yeah,
what would you play. What would Tom play? Would it
be a third eye blind songs? He should do? Getting
to know you with Tom? Are we all just asking
questions off of his last want to do that? Yeah?
(03:02):
You better leave that before we drag you into real quick.
Who's your favorite runner? Like? There's the dust study here?
Do you know that Thomas who gave me my first contract?
So he took me into his office when he was
making me like full time on air and stuff, and
he gave me a contract. And you know, Union had
(03:24):
a certain number that you could have and it was
your you know, I guess baseline. I was making four
dollars and twenty five cents an hour before that meeting.
I almost fainted on his floor because that significant difference
at that time, and I was like what I'm getting? What?
Like I couldn't believe it. It was amazing something Tom
(03:45):
Tom hired me. Also gave me my first paycheck. Son.
Do you get some context of people Thomas, Well, he
was the program duringt He was the program director York nine,
which is it was it was his idea to put
Elvis on the morning show, that is correct, which the
program director is kind of like the manager of the
(04:07):
radio station. And they're also the person that calls you
in for an air check session. Yes, does anybody want
to explain what an air check session? Basically where you
listen back to what you did previously and then somebody
critiques every single part of it. Used to air check Elvis,
but Elvis would never allow that. Yes, the air check
(04:30):
session was always extremely embarrassing. I can tell Frog has
got a good story about this, because your boss is
basically playing back your last show and pausing and after
every time you would say like, hey, yeah the weather today,
and here the Pennsylvania. But you were a little too
fast with that and you didn't enunciate enough, and then
you ended up you know, blah blah blah blah, and
(04:51):
it's just so embarrassed for everyone else. Imagine being recorded
for an entire day of your job and then playing
back that entire day, minute by minute in front of
your boss, with your boss with with critiques in between.
Is every boss has a different thing that they like
or don't like, So you're gonna get a different critique
(05:13):
from every single program director that you have. Like I
have a program director who used to be triggered by
people who would laugh when they had a shift by themselves.
He'd be like, you're laughing. Who are you laughing with?
There's no one in the room. Stop laughing. Oh my god.
The worst is like, so if you're talking up a song,
normal song is anywhere from you know, five to twelve
seconds after they stop it in two seconds into the audio,
(05:35):
you're like two seconds in already, well, what's wrong? Come
two seconds in. I feel bad for Tom because I
feel like any time he has seen my face in
the last decade, it's been trouble. Every time he sees me,
he's like, what did you do now? My first two
interactions with Tom were one we were in a fantasy
(05:57):
football league that we had around and Tom and I
made it to this Puper Bowl and I was playing him.
I did not want to win because I'm like, I can't, please,
don't let me win. And I did and I lost.
I was very happy, but we were I always pride
myself on being responsible, and so we were going on
a Elvis Durram party plane to the Bahamas and we
(06:17):
were going by boat. Well, I forgot my passport in
my laptop in my car back in the States, and
so we were three quarters of the way to the Bahamas,
and I had to let everybody on board know that
I did not have my passport in my laptop. And
that was like my first full interaction with Tom. He
must have thought, what is this dumbass doing here? The
(06:40):
same trip that you? You You and Lisa did it in
the bushes. Yeah, that was the same trip. It was
later after that I got I got my least, I
got my passport and metus there. Everything was good, and
then we banged it out in the bushes. Yes, center Tom,
Tom Holman owes me a new car, well scary Elvis.
Tom and I went on a business trip two thousand
five five because we wanted to syndicate our show to
(07:02):
WHY one hundred in Miami. We had to meet with
some corporate big wigs and so while we were on
the trip, Tom bought me an official cowboy hat because
he was excited that we were on the trip. I
remember that we were in Nashville, right, We were in Nashville,
and I said, Thomas is great, and then uh that
they had just brought back the Dodge Charger in two
thousand for the two thousand six model, and one went
by and I said, that's my dream car. Tom and
(07:24):
he said, Brodie, if we get on why one hundred Miami,
I will buy you that call. Well, Danielle, I started
off by saying, he owes me a car. That was
May of two thousand six when we started in Miami, right,
so I would say he's a little behind on his purchase. Yeah,
me go get him and you can ask him. Bernie,
you can do that. Okay, it's only sixteen years. He's
(07:46):
got time. Tom was the one who actually actually had
faith in me and put me on the radio just
from my college radio air check. I was running the equipment,
running the board in my first year here and answering
the phones when people used to call radio stations, and
he was, you know what, pretty good tape because Friday night,
two am, you're on the to get No, it's unheard
(08:09):
of to you know, see the number one market as
far as you know the listenership goes. You don't just
start your radio career on air in New York City
unless I guess you still have Do you still have
that tape? I do? Oh yeah, yeah. Where do we
have it in the system. I've tried to freaking forget
about it on the system, but I have it. Can
(08:31):
you please bring it in. I listened to it live.
I remember we were coming home from a club and
we were in the hummer at two thirty in the
morning or something like that. We're getting what I'm scary.
I remember him saying, oh, the janitor, I locked him
in the closet or something like that. Up here. That
was like. The first song was Tracy Chatman, give me
one reason. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I guess, uh,
(08:51):
you know, I know the overnight janitor or something like that.
I guess they shouldn't listen. It was awful. That's why
it should not come to light. Everybody puke voices. Did
you ever if we hang on, if we started to
go fund me right there goes to your favorite charity,
(09:13):
would you let us play that audio? I would, of course,
charity for charity. Okay, I'm in for fifty bucks. It's
just a four hours of overnight radio June of when
I got my radio air debut on Go find that cassette,
go find it. Would you guys do? Would you guys
(09:34):
put money again? I would? I would definitely don't your money? Alrighty, scary.
Do you remember the audio from the first time I
ever did a shift on ZE one hundred, you might,
you might want to. Yeah, this is actually kind of funny.
So I did like a midnight to five I think,
or something like that, late night shift. And uh, we
were in our Jersey City studios, so you had to
(09:55):
record on pro tools in the studio across the hall.
So no is in the building at two o'clock in
the morning, right, So I I hit play and record
on on pro tools before my shift started, and I
did I don't know, maybe five or six minutes. Scary
shows up with a bunch of friends drunk at the
radio station at at night and he goes into the
(10:16):
other studio to show him how everything works and turns
off my recording. And so the one shift I did
on the radio station, I think I have like three
minutes of it somewhere on it. Turned it off. Why
all these lights and buttons on? This shouldn't be this way? Yeah,
turned everything off. I have no proof. Was that a
(10:37):
blessing in disguise? I mean, how did you? Well? Well,
two things. Number one, you don't have the audio to
play it, which is fantastic. Uh, the audio was okay.
The sad part was the first two two or three breaks.
My levels were terrible. You could barely hear me over
the music. And then when I got good is when
he doesn't have it on tape. Sorry, I wish I
(10:58):
had my first from college. My college because I did
a heavy metal show. My first show was so I
had no idea what the hell was going on, and
one of my first breaks, I go, I don't know
what the heck we just played, but that was awful
on there, And the program director had to say to me, Danielle, listen,
we can't say that we can't go in there. He
(11:20):
supposed to like what you're playing. I'm like, okay, I'm
being honest. Just's being honest. It was awful. Well, I'm sure.
I'm sure we all have bad tapes. Oh, I think
I think you have stuff, don't I. I used to
have a terrible, terrible accent when I first started on
(11:41):
the radio, so I would talk like this coffee and
orange juice, and and I paid money to get rid
of it, because you know radioa Wait wait, wait, wait wait,
you paid money to get rid of your accent. I
took elocution lessons when I was You can tell that
Scott he's taking on the way he seeks. He saw
Long Island. She was like our friend Danielle de Lillo.
(12:02):
He talks. You know what's so funny? In college they
try to do that as well. They made me put
a pencil in my mouth to try to get rid
of my accent. Told you, but but what got me?
But what? But what got me hired? Here was my accent.
So I'm surprised that Scotty, you did that well because
(12:22):
I was moving to Iowa at the time. What's I
love that you took? Look crazy does ask good morning?
And Iowa now loves that, loves our show good more?
You know that's crazy, always told Danielle. Like Danielle, they
(12:43):
put a pencil in my mouth as well, and you
had to over extend. Yeah, I don't need to see you,
but tell me how to skunds like when when in
the studio you can't understand me, but when you take
(13:07):
the pen out of your mouth, you actually over enunciate
because your brain remembers I didn't. I just went back
to talking like that. All the time we have for today,
thanks to everybody pays put my pencil in her mouth,
I'll do that. That's really all the time we have
(13:28):
forty everybody, the fifteen minute Morning Show,
What would you talk about on your on your podcast,
fine show? All right, which of us would actually work
with our spouse? I don't think I could do. This
(00:23):
is a continuation of the topic from the Big Show.
I would say inappropriate things and get fired, would call hr.
I couldn't do it, not because nothing against him. I
just need distance from everybody in some space. From everybody
like Jim and Pam in the office seemed like misery
to me. You work directly next to each other, then
(00:45):
you go home and spend every second together. My god,
too much. And then you hear about those couples that
you know they lived together, commute in together, work together.
I'm like, oh god, you do become much. They're savings,
They're saving so much money. Oh I don't care. I'll
spend money to get away from people something. I think
they're all gonna die like fifteen years early. But I mean,
(01:08):
basically you've been Danielle, for instance, Like you've basically been
working with Sheldon since you've been at home, right, I mean,
you guys are in the same house, but we kind
of stay out of each other's way. Like he really
has his little space upstairs and I'm down here and
then when I'm finished down here, I go two floors
up and then like you know, so it's like we
we've space it out. But I keep telling him that
(01:30):
one day, when this is all said and done, I
will be his manager. Because people are always asked, seriously,
people are He's very excited. People are always asking him
for advice in real estate and stuff. And I keep
telling him we could do seminars. There be a coaching
thing you could do. But I said, why are you
(01:51):
giving this away for free? Save it. I'll manage it
and I'll book all your engagements. I'm like, we can
do this, so you know, we'll see. Yeah, we have
a special guest. Everybody going podcast, Chief of Boys, Tom Polman.
(02:13):
What's up, guys. We love Tom. Tom's been here for
how long? In his office? That's that's right. The studio
is in the grounds of his old office. And back
in those humble beginnings, we used to gather in Tom's
office and we used to sit on the floor and
he used to play the guitar for us, drum a
(02:35):
little tune on a Friday. Remember that. How very happy
of all of you. Mutable laws of marketing. That's right, Yeah,
what would you play. What would Tom play? Would it
be a third eye blind songs? He should do? Getting
to know you with Tom? Are we all just asking
questions off of his last want to do that? Yeah?
(03:02):
You better leave that before we drag you into real quick.
Who's your favorite runner? Like? There's the dust study here?
Do you know that Thomas who gave me my first contract?
So he took me into his office when he was
making me like full time on air and stuff, and
he gave me a contract. And you know, Union had
(03:24):
a certain number that you could have and it was
your you know, I guess baseline. I was making four
dollars and twenty five cents an hour before that meeting.
I almost fainted on his floor because that significant difference
at that time, and I was like what I'm getting? What?
Like I couldn't believe it. It was amazing something Tom
(03:45):
Tom hired me. Also gave me my first paycheck. Son.
Do you get some context of people Thomas, Well, he
was the program duringt He was the program director York nine,
which is it was it was his idea to put
Elvis on the morning show, that is correct, which the
program director is kind of like the manager of the
(04:07):
radio station. And they're also the person that calls you
in for an air check session. Yes, does anybody want
to explain what an air check session? Basically where you
listen back to what you did previously and then somebody
critiques every single part of it. Used to air check Elvis,
but Elvis would never allow that. Yes, the air check
(04:30):
session was always extremely embarrassing. I can tell Frog has
got a good story about this, because your boss is
basically playing back your last show and pausing and after
every time you would say like, hey, yeah the weather today,
and here the Pennsylvania. But you were a little too
fast with that and you didn't enunciate enough, and then
you ended up you know, blah blah blah blah, and
(04:51):
it's just so embarrassed for everyone else. Imagine being recorded
for an entire day of your job and then playing
back that entire day, minute by minute in front of
your boss, with your boss with with critiques in between.
Is every boss has a different thing that they like
or don't like, So you're gonna get a different critique
(05:13):
from every single program director that you have. Like I
have a program director who used to be triggered by
people who would laugh when they had a shift by themselves.
He'd be like, you're laughing. Who are you laughing with?
There's no one in the room. Stop laughing. Oh my god.
The worst is like, so if you're talking up a song,
normal song is anywhere from you know, five to twelve
seconds after they stop it in two seconds into the audio,
(05:35):
you're like two seconds in already, well, what's wrong? Come
two seconds in. I feel bad for Tom because I
feel like any time he has seen my face in
the last decade, it's been trouble. Every time he sees me,
he's like, what did you do now? My first two
interactions with Tom were one we were in a fantasy
(05:57):
football league that we had around and Tom and I
made it to this Puper Bowl and I was playing him.
I did not want to win because I'm like, I can't, please,
don't let me win. And I did and I lost.
I was very happy, but we were I always pride
myself on being responsible, and so we were going on
a Elvis Durram party plane to the Bahamas and we
(06:17):
were going by boat. Well, I forgot my passport in
my laptop in my car back in the States, and
so we were three quarters of the way to the Bahamas,
and I had to let everybody on board know that
I did not have my passport in my laptop. And
that was like my first full interaction with Tom. He
must have thought, what is this dumbass doing here? The
(06:40):
same trip that you? You You and Lisa did it in
the bushes. Yeah, that was the same trip. It was
later after that I got I got my least, I
got my passport and metus there. Everything was good, and
then we banged it out in the bushes. Yes, center Tom,
Tom Holman owes me a new car, well scary Elvis.
Tom and I went on a business trip two thousand
five five because we wanted to syndicate our show to
(07:02):
WHY one hundred in Miami. We had to meet with
some corporate big wigs and so while we were on
the trip, Tom bought me an official cowboy hat because
he was excited that we were on the trip. I
remember that we were in Nashville, right, We were in Nashville,
and I said, Thomas is great, and then uh that
they had just brought back the Dodge Charger in two
thousand for the two thousand six model, and one went
by and I said, that's my dream car. Tom and
(07:24):
he said, Brodie, if we get on why one hundred Miami,
I will buy you that call. Well, Danielle, I started
off by saying, he owes me a car. That was
May of two thousand six when we started in Miami, right,
so I would say he's a little behind on his purchase. Yeah,
me go get him and you can ask him. Bernie,
you can do that. Okay, it's only sixteen years. He's
(07:46):
got time. Tom was the one who actually actually had
faith in me and put me on the radio just
from my college radio air check. I was running the equipment,
running the board in my first year here and answering
the phones when people used to call radio stations, and
he was, you know what, pretty good tape because Friday night,
two am, you're on the to get No, it's unheard
(08:09):
of to you know, see the number one market as
far as you know the listenership goes. You don't just
start your radio career on air in New York City
unless I guess you still have Do you still have
that tape? I do? Oh yeah, yeah. Where do we
have it in the system. I've tried to freaking forget
about it on the system, but I have it. Can
(08:31):
you please bring it in. I listened to it live.
I remember we were coming home from a club and
we were in the hummer at two thirty in the
morning or something like that. We're getting what I'm scary.
I remember him saying, oh, the janitor, I locked him
in the closet or something like that. Up here. That
was like. The first song was Tracy Chatman, give me
one reason. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I guess, uh,
(08:51):
you know, I know the overnight janitor or something like that.
I guess they shouldn't listen. It was awful. That's why
it should not come to light. Everybody puke voices. Did
you ever if we hang on, if we started to
go fund me right there goes to your favorite charity,
(09:13):
would you let us play that audio? I would, of course,
charity for charity. Okay, I'm in for fifty bucks. It's
just a four hours of overnight radio June of when
I got my radio air debut on Go find that cassette,
go find it. Would you guys do? Would you guys
(09:34):
put money again? I would? I would definitely don't your money? Alrighty, scary.
Do you remember the audio from the first time I
ever did a shift on ZE one hundred, you might,
you might want to. Yeah, this is actually kind of funny.
So I did like a midnight to five I think,
or something like that, late night shift. And uh, we
were in our Jersey City studios, so you had to
(09:55):
record on pro tools in the studio across the hall.
So no is in the building at two o'clock in
the morning, right, So I I hit play and record
on on pro tools before my shift started, and I
did I don't know, maybe five or six minutes. Scary
shows up with a bunch of friends drunk at the
radio station at at night and he goes into the
(10:16):
other studio to show him how everything works and turns
off my recording. And so the one shift I did
on the radio station, I think I have like three
minutes of it somewhere on it. Turned it off. Why
all these lights and buttons on? This shouldn't be this way? Yeah,
turned everything off. I have no proof. Was that a
(10:37):
blessing in disguise? I mean, how did you? Well? Well,
two things. Number one, you don't have the audio to
play it, which is fantastic. Uh, the audio was okay.
The sad part was the first two two or three breaks.
My levels were terrible. You could barely hear me over
the music. And then when I got good is when
he doesn't have it on tape. Sorry, I wish I
(10:58):
had my first from college. My college because I did
a heavy metal show. My first show was so I
had no idea what the hell was going on, and
one of my first breaks, I go, I don't know
what the heck we just played, but that was awful
on there, And the program director had to say to me, Danielle, listen,
we can't say that we can't go in there. He
(11:20):
supposed to like what you're playing. I'm like, okay, I'm
being honest. Just's being honest. It was awful. Well, I'm sure.
I'm sure we all have bad tapes. Oh, I think
I think you have stuff, don't I. I used to
have a terrible, terrible accent when I first started on
(11:41):
the radio, so I would talk like this coffee and
orange juice, and and I paid money to get rid
of it, because you know radioa Wait wait, wait, wait wait,
you paid money to get rid of your accent. I
took elocution lessons when I was You can tell that
Scott he's taking on the way he seeks. He saw
Long Island. She was like our friend Danielle de Lillo.
(12:02):
He talks. You know what's so funny? In college they
try to do that as well. They made me put
a pencil in my mouth to try to get rid
of my accent. Told you, but but what got me?
But what? But what got me hired? Here was my accent.
So I'm surprised that Scotty, you did that well because
(12:22):
I was moving to Iowa at the time. What's I
love that you took? Look crazy does ask good morning?
And Iowa now loves that, loves our show good more?
You know that's crazy, always told Danielle. Like Danielle, they
(12:43):
put a pencil in my mouth as well, and you
had to over extend. Yeah, I don't need to see you,
but tell me how to skunds like when when in
the studio you can't understand me, but when you take
(13:07):
the pen out of your mouth, you actually over enunciate
because your brain remembers I didn't. I just went back
to talking like that. All the time we have for today,
thanks to everybody pays put my pencil in her mouth,
I'll do that. That's really all the time we have
(13:28):
forty everybody, the fifteen minute Morning Show,
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