On today’s MKD, we start the week off discussing weird celebrity treatments, the deadliest sport for kids, a death at a trampoline park, a cruise passenger served an excessive amount of drinks before his death, a study on the smell of farts, a mom found alive in the morgue, and Nicole's traumatic birth story.
Shop our new merch! Use code GrossVIP15 at checkout - theduramatershop.com
Submit your stories, questions & comments to stories@motherknowsdeath.com
Support The Show:
🖤 Sponsors
🔬 Buy Nicole's Book
🥼 Merch
Follow:
🔪 Nicole
🪩 Maria
📱 TikTok
More Info:
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. There's so much going
on in the news this week. I feel like there's
more stories than we've ever had this week extra, so
(00:30):
don't forget that. Obviously, we can't cover all of them
my Mother Knows Death, So we do cover additional stories
in the Grocery Room, either by linking them or with
our extra episode that we have on Fridays, which is
a YouTube live and that one gets a little crazy.
I have to tell you, you guys, it's definitely fun,
(00:50):
but it's it's very especially since it's live, like you
just never really know what's going to happen. And the
grocer Room is actually on sale for a few days
and it's our last sale of the year, So we'll
talk about that a little bit more in the episode.
But today we're going to go over some controversial medical
therapies that celebrities are getting deadly, sports and activities for kids.
(01:15):
Another death on a cruise that was ruled a homicide,
only it's not what you would think of when you
think of a homicide, with someone stabbing someone or shooting someone,
it's just kind of a really unusual story. There was
breaking news this week which is an old story but
still worth talking about that women's farts smell worse than
(01:37):
men's farts. And believe it or not, we have another
case of a woman who was found alive in a morgue.
This is like, what the third this year? Maybe even
more probably, Well, yeah, it's just not So we're going
to get into some of your comments and questions after
that and so much more on today's episode.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So we're always hearing about these.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
And actresses and famous people that are doing these things
that regular average what do we call us poor folk
don't do.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So let's talk.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Let's start first with Kylie Jenner's treatment.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
All right, So she's revealing that she got stem cell
therapy to treat chronic back pain she's experienced since her
last pregnancy three years ago. So I feel like we're
often hearing about this stem cell therapy, but I have
really no idea what it is. Could you give any
explanation for a normal person?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, First, I want to say, because I haven't seen
this and I feel like this is the obvious. Right, So,
when you're a woman that has really big boobs and
you want to get a breast reduction. The usually the
biggest reason that women want to get that surgery done
is because of what back pain, because they're back hurts, right,
(02:55):
It's because you're putting all this extra weight on your
body and on your skins, Elton, and it causes chronic
back pain. Is it possible that these huge asses that
these girls give themselves is putting extra weight on their
skeleton that isn't supposed to be there and that could
be contributing to the back pain.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, they have huge asses and huge boobs, so I
can't even imagine. I mean what, I'm about four months
pregnant and my boobs are already so enormous that I
want to die.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So I just wait, wait till after you have the
kid they get no bigger.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I know it's gonna get so much worse, but it
already is hurting my back so much more in the
last couple of months. I can't imagine having It's not
like I necessarily I mean, we're getting very tmi. It's
not like I necessarily had the smallest boobs in the world.
They're decent sized, but now that they're getting huge, my
back definitely hurts a lot more than it did in
(03:50):
the past. So let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
After I had Lilian, I went in the shower to
just like wash my body and my I had soap
in my one in my right hand, my dominant hand,
and was going over to my armpit to like wash.
I like couldn't even reach my arm over my boobs.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
They were so big. It was so weird.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, I was just like, I think it's just weird
because you just kind of wake up and it's like
that one day they'll get way bigger. All right, Anyway,
we're digressing. So so I mean, whatever, she's got chronic
back pain, I don't not believe her, but I have
a hard time I really think that this could be
a potential issue. Is just adding extra weight onto your
(04:34):
skeleton like that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So what they do.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Stem cells are called misankmal cells, and they're they're cells
that could they're immature cells that could grow up to
be all different kinds of cells. So even if they
take them from fat where they take them from bone marrow,
because they're so immature, if you inject them in somewhere,
they could turn into cells that could help fix the
(04:59):
back to issue. Like tendons and ligaments and things like that.
So that's why people really like stem cells, even if
you get them from the umbilical cord. So if you
get them from the umbilical cord and inject them in
someone's back, which would probably not be the most common
way to do it, but like it wouldn't grow umbilical
cord cells because they're so immature they haven't decided what
(05:20):
they want to be when they grow up yet basically,
so it does help with inflammation and just repairing and
regenerating disk tissue that might be damaged because of pregnancy
or big.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Ass or whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
So so yeah, I think the thing is is that
it's not FDA approved yet, even though a lot of
different doctors are doing it. I think one of our
friends had something similar done with her hip, but which
to me means that you have to pay cash for it,
and it's thousands and thousands of dollars and most people
(05:55):
just don't have like ten grand laying around to get
something like this done.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Listen, I don't think they're paying for it because in
my opinion, this is a brand deal. Because she said
she was inspired by Kim getting a similar treatment, and
I went back to the the post Kim made four
months ago, and they had nearly identical wording about the
disclaimers and everything, and then they tagged the clinic. These
girls are smart business women. They're not sharing this information
(06:23):
out of the kindness of their heart. I know.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I'm just saying though, to be pushing it to people,
like if you go with the percentage of their followers.
Nobody's got money laying around like that, So you're getting
people to go there and they can't use their insurance,
so it's like a huge out of pocket cash thing.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So it's the same with the pernuvo and everything. You know,
it's just like they're getting.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
These The people that are getting it for free are
actually the ones that could afford it.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, basically, but they're very influential and people are going
to look into it. If it can really help somebody,
go for it. But I'm not gonna sit here and
be like, oh my god, she's such a good person
sharing this experience she had with this doctor, Like, I
don't think so, you know what else is nuts?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Like? So there's a picture of her and she, of
course she has to show her lower back with this
giant bandage on it, and her butt looks does not
look how it used to look? Is it possible? I
really think that they're getting butt reductions now?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well, you know this is an interesting that you interesting
point that you just brought up, because I was listening
to another podcast the other day and they were talking
about how weird it is how open they are about
every procedure they've gotten done but won't talk about their butts,
and I do think that is weird.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It is actually that they're They're like, yeah, my face
is totally jacked, like I had everything done. And then
I saw an article this weekend too that Chris Jenner
said everything on her face has been touched except her nose,
and I was like, girl, your nose looks like Michael
Jackson's right now, Like what are you talking about? Maybe
not in this late latest round of plastic surgery that
she had done, but you mean to tell me that
(08:06):
your nose is naturally occurring like that?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, the same podcast I was just last the same
podcast I was just referencing, was also saying also talking
about the same exact thing, and just saying, is it
an optical illusion that her nose looks like it's touched
or is she just being like, oh, well, I haven't
touched it as much as I've touched other parts of
my body. To me, it's worked on you know. I mean,
(08:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It doesn't look natural to me, but whatever. All right,
let's talk about Bryce Harper. He's one of our star
players on the Phillies. He also had a controversial procedure
that regular people don't get. So, wait, did you just
hear that Schwarber got resigned? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I was just gonna say so happy. Schwarby just resigned.
Thank god, thank god.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Because he's my favorite player and I'm now I'm going
to commit. I wouldn't buy a shirt for him until
he committed to signing with us, So.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I'll make your Barbie shirt finally.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, I want a Barbie shirt that says Schwarby. I
will make it for you now in cricket. All right,
But Bryce Harper posted on Instagram that he recently underwent
a blood procedure where one third of his blood was
drawn from his body, put through this specialized process, and
then returned into his bloodstream. So this is called etra
corporal blood oxygenation and ozonation therapy, but which is just
(09:29):
a fancy way of saying it's they're kind of doing
a similar thing that you would do with dialysis. You
take your blood out of your body, it goes into
a machine. It's adding oxygen and it's adding ozone gas
and it's filtering it out and then it's putting it
back into the body. And for obvious reasons, this is
(09:49):
like kind of frowned upon and it's definitely not FDA
approved yet.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I'm just so over these people sharing these weird.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Surprised Like the other the stem cell thing, I'm into,
and I feel like at some point that's really going
to be a standard of care, once they could figure
out how to do it, do it safely, do it effectively,
cost effectively, all that stuff. This one, on the other hand,
it just has a lot more physicians are kind of
(10:21):
against it. It's not it's like I said, it's not
FDA proof, which like whatever. At this point, the FDA
is like you could either go back or forth. But
there's some level of people that are are wary of
this particular type of medical treatment. And the biggest reason
is is because it could lice the red blood cells
(10:42):
when they're coming out. You can give someone an air embolism,
which is really freaking scary. And that's when there is
air that is traveling with the blood going through your
going through your body, and it could go into your
brain and give you a stroke like effect. It's really
really scary. Also can go into your lungs. So I'm
(11:07):
actually surprised that someone on his level would would risk
this because he's like, like a very high level baseball
player that's kind of in his prime right now. Well
maybe not, but he's like he.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Is the attention whore of the century. I mean, think
about his stupid headband that says show.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Me I no, I like listen whatever, he's on our team,
you can't no.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I listen.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I'm grateful that that's happened private.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
You can't bash him on in public like this.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Listen. Two things could be true. You could be thankful
they're on your team, but you could also hate their
guts because they're annoying. People. Also collapse for your pronunciation
of that process because I never would have been able
to say it. And I think we should maybe do
a segment called mispronunciation of the week because everybody loved
when you said Jonnifer last week. Oh I was saying
(12:04):
Jonathan Taylor, Tom, I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I couldn't get it out either. Oh, it's probably it's
really good. Well, so wait, so what did I say
last week that was really good? When we were talking
about the cockroaches and what their exoskeleton is made out of,
and I said, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Like that chitlin you said chin, But then.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I was like, it's no, it's not. And and the
best part is is I was I was like laughing
out loud about it, because like, isn't a chitlin like
some kind of way to cook, like pagan testines or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I don't know where I got the word, but it's
just funny and it has nothing to do with the
exoskeleton of of a cockroach. Actually, I was on the
phone with Pop Pop this morning and I was just like,
you know what, man, we can never get him to
gut on the show and be him true self, but
like maybe we should secretly record him and put it
(13:07):
on here. We can tell him afterwards. Of course, mabul
get his permission, But did you see him? He just
talks so good, like he's just so good and entertaining,
and I'm like he wouldn't. He would be like, Hi,
how are you Like, Oh, he wouldn't be himself at
Allume he's in his natural element.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Forget it. He's just saying everything he says. Do you
ever see those memes? It's like when your family member
says something outrageous at a family party and then it's
like somebody trying to make eye contech with somebody else.
That's like all of us at every single function he's at.
It's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Like Gabe actually has a document and you have a
document of things that he says that are hilarious. Like
you guys pull out your phone all the time and
just write it down because it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, did you see it was funny? We were talking
about our Philly accent last week because when I was
just in Canada over the weekend, there was a coffee
shop called Milk like, Oh I say it em me okay,
which was so weird and random. They also had a
Panzerati place, So random is random, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
So there's been a couple of stories about Dudley's sports
and activities for kids. So I actually I don't really
know anybody that does this, but I can't even believe
that anyone does this with their children.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well, yeah, I was surprised because I feel like often
when we're talking about deadly or dangerous sports for children,
it's something to do with contact sports, meaning mostly tackle football.
But they're saying that new evidence is suggesting that motocross
is the most dangerous for kids. Yeah, which is what
is it? Exactly? Like, explain what motocross is. I mean,
(14:47):
motocross is just basically when you're like riding I believe,
a motorized dirt butt. It's basically a motorcycle. People are
on of sorts and they're going on these dangerous dirt roads.
And I was surprised to see that kids as young
as four are competing in these competitions.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah. I feel like some point this year we talked
about kids doing a similar thing with like race cars
or something.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
No, I feel like we had another motocross story. Was
that what it was?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I thought it was a car or something, but regardless. Yeah,
So now they're saying that it's even more I mean,
like seven times more likely to get injuries than football players,
which is the second, you know, the second most common
way that kids get injured playing sports and there's been
(15:34):
The statistics are really wild for this, So I guess
they wear a lot of different They wear gear, safety gear, right,
so they wear helmets and they wear chest plates and
protective clothing. But like that, I just think that that's
such a false sensic security, especially people who ride motorcycles too,
(15:55):
Like people don't really realize. I have cases in the
gross room where there's like a person's head who's completely
chopped off and has a motorcycle helmet on still, and
it's like, yeah, maybe he didn't break his skull, but
like he doesn't have his head attached to his body,
so like who cares at that point? But all of
these injuries have been noted that they're still happening on
(16:17):
kids that are wearing helmets, fatal injuries including fractured spine, neck,
internal organ damage, especially to the chest from slamming against
the handlebars of the bike, and a lot of it happens.
So I guess they do like competitive racing on tracks
and things, and I guess. I mean, this story really
(16:38):
went into detail interviewing different people who have experienced a
child dying because of this, and the one family was
suing the motocross a place where they were competing at
because they let two people go on the track at
the same time or something and they're not supposed to
do that, which I understand, but at the same time,
(17:00):
like when you're letting your kid do a sport like that,
you just have to know that there's a high probability
that they're going to get really hurt or possibly even die.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well, let's get into the statistics too, because USA Today
did this investigation. So they found that one hundred and
fifty eight children and teens have died on dirt bikes
and at these tracks since two thousand, which is more
than six a year. Nineteen of those fatalities involved riders
ten years old or younger, and two thirds of those
deaths happened on a track. And they were saying, like
(17:30):
you were talking about, they were interviewing families throughout the
article about people that were injured or killed in these situations,
and they were citing the most dangerous things as mixed
riding like you're saying, which is when there's multiple riders
on a track, or mostly when kids are on a
track with an adult with a way more advanced bike.
They were also saying there's major issues with trees or
(17:51):
other obstacles being too close to the track. They said,
sometimes there's these like blind jumps where they can't see
below when they're about to go over them, and sometimes
riders are falling below that jump, so if another rider's coming,
they can't see if somebody is down, and there's no
alert system at all letting them know somebody's down then
to watch out. And then they're just saying because it's
(18:13):
like a dirt track that it's uneven, there's a lot
of grooves that could cause them to lose balance. So
I think there's a lot of issues. And like you're saying,
the equipment is providing this false sense of safety, and
it's like you're getting in a horrific car accident, or
not car accident, but vehicular accident of the sort. So
what does it matter if you're wearing the protection, Like
(18:35):
think about it. Seatbelts save a lot of people. They
don't save everybody, depending on the severity of the accident.
It's just a.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Totally different situation when you're talking about I mean, people
just like they need to know what I feel. Like
last week, some influencer there's there's a big thing now
apparently with like hot sexy girl influencers like straddling these
bikes and riding these motors and all of these girls
want to do it now, and it's like this one
(19:03):
influencer just died, and it's just like, dude, when it's
you against the road or the pavement or the dirt,
it's just not going to end well, especially when you're
being flung, you're not restrained. Even getting in car accidents
like seatbelt versus not going through the windshield and stuff,
you just have such a lower chance of surviving if
(19:23):
you get ejected from from somewhere. I guess my question
is that we had a story on the news a
couple of years ago of this mom that got in
trouble for like letting her ten year old walk home
by himself, right or something.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
It was something ridiculously yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You're just like, like, if you put your kid in
a situation where they're going to get hurt, the parents
could be held liable if you put them in a
situation where they could where they could get seriously injured
or harmed. Where is the line get drawn with something
like this that clearly it's a dangerous thing. And I
(20:02):
know six that's the year is not that much. It's
just not But the population of people who do this
is very, very small, so it might make it a
little bit more significant that six people are dying. But
on top of that, just because a person's not dying,
it doesn't mean that they don't have lifelong injuries. Like
(20:23):
could be something as simple as a broken leg, which
just sucks too, but like it could be kids that
have permanent brain damage and brain injury and they're still
physically alive, but their whole entire quality of life is gone.
So I'm curious what you guys think about that, or
if you or anyone that you know does this particular sport.
(20:43):
But one of the moms in the article said something like,
you know, you let your kid go into swimming pool,
and however many kids a year drowned into swimming pool,
which is which is absolutely true. But I would go
out and say that if you did a survey, almost
like it has to be very high in the eighty
(21:05):
percent of children in the world go in a swimming
pool at some point. It's just like kids go even
if they don't have one, they go in a public one,
or they go in a friend's one, or at some
point on the sort.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Of body of water.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, oh shit, whatever, right, So it's just like so, yeah,
like a lot of kids do die drowning, but it's
it's so many kids compared to how many do motocross
zero points zero zero one percent of the population. Like
that's all that. That's all I'm trying to say. And
so it does seem like it's very deadly based on
(21:41):
the ratio of how many people actually do it.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, And I mean they're also saying the other major
issues they're facing is I guess the tracks aren't inspected.
So one family is fighting to pass a law that
they have to be inspected. And then medical staff that
is on site is either not quick enough or not
trained enough to know how to handle these injury, which
is also a major problem. So I don't know, I mean,
(22:05):
I I think this is just like I can't even
imagine putting a four year old on like a motorcycle
essentially and letting them go on a road like this.
A lot of it is probably.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Cultural, like their dad did it, their mom did it, whatever,
and they want their kid to do it. And you know,
we actually come from a family like my dad rode
a motorcycle its whole entire life. And so you know,
we always have these these arguments with people because people
think that it's like, and my dad says that all
(22:38):
the time, like he always was a safe driver and
he never had like I mean, he had a couple
of situations, but he never had anything serious because he
wasn't driving in between lanes of traffic and things like that.
Because trust me, especially living in Philly, you see that
all the time that you just see people that you're like, oh,
they're going to be at the medical examiner later because
(23:00):
they're driving like a total idiot. You know. But the
bottom line is is that especially now at least in
New Jersey and Philly, that everybody is high driving and
everybody is texting and driving. You could be the best
motorcycle driver ever and somebody could hit you because they're.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Not paying attention.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's just like unfortunately, I actually I say this all
the time, Like when I rotated at the Medical Examiner's office,
I couldn't believe how many people died every day from
motorcycle accidents.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
It's like it's just.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Not even reported. You might hear one or two on
the news once in a while, but there's just so
much more.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
No, I mean, I would argue to say that somebody,
everybody that listens to the show knows somebody or knows
a friend and a friend or a couple degrees of
separation of somebody that died or was seriously injured in
a motorcycle accident.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And that was something I feel like. Mo Mom even
said that because she used to ride on the motorcycle
with Pop Pop. But then when she when they started
having kids, my mom made a decision like I'm not
going on it with him because if something happens, then
our kids aren't going to have parents.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah for you know, so all right. So, in other
child safety news, a six year old has died after
getting into a go kart accident at a trampoline park
in Florida.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So yeah, it's kind of a similar thing. I actually
went to this exact place before what's it called Urban
Air or something during COVID, because in New Jersey everything
was shut down in twenty twenty in the summer. There
was nothing open and we couldn't do anything. So we
went to Florida to see my father in law, and
(24:37):
like everything was open and everyone was in there without masks,
and life was totally functioning, so it was awesome. We
went there and it was cool. The kids had a
good time and stuff. And we've done these go kart
things before. We just did go karts on our last trip, uh,
one of our last trips when we were in the
Pocono's I think, and we did them in Tennessee. We
(25:00):
don't we do them all the time, So I mean
it sucks. But it's the same exact thing, like the
one that's near your house that you brought the kids to.
They put helmets on the kids, right, I feel like
there was helmets.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, I don't. I could look back at pictures I
took that they remember when I took them it was
the worst day of their life.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I mean, this is and this is what sucks because
when you talk about the last story in this story
and things like that, it's just like you go, you
go back and forth because we talk about such freak
things all the time and there's just no way that
you can't ever let your kids do stuff. And there's
a lot of times there's emergency room doctors who who
(25:40):
do these videos on social media that say, like here
are ten things I would never let my kids do,
and one of them is always going to a trampoline park.
But I just think in general at that place they
have the go kart and the trampolines and everything they
have there can potentially hurt a kid.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, I'm wondering if so. They didn't really release exactly
what happened yet, So I'm wondering if they're going to
see there was negligent or some type of accident where
something wasn't functioning correctly. I mean, it seems pretty bad.
She was airlifted to the hospital and obviously died from
the injuries. So what Like I'm thinking, you know, those
things do go fast, but there's bumpers and safety measures
(26:20):
in place so that they can't crash into each other
and everything, So like what happened exactly, they.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Can though, Like I feel like the last one we
went on, especially some of them go faster. It's when
you go on it's just like, don't don't use these
as bumper cars. They specifically say that all the time. Yeah,
but to know, Gabe, I'm telling you, one time we
went to I had I was by myself in a
(26:48):
go cart in Gatlinberg.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
And uh, what's fantasy, right?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
And I was driving the thing, and Gabe was thought
he was being so cute, and he slammed into the
back of my of my go kart so hard that
my glasses flew off of my face, like into the
the track, and I was just and then I couldn't
see because I was driving, and I was just like,
(27:16):
you're you're such a douche whatever. But regardless, like he
and He's sitting there with him and Lulu are sitting
there crying, laughing at me. They thought it was great,
but like that was that was like a pretty significant
like force in order for that to fly off my
face like that, And like I'm a grown up and
I'm like I basically fit inside the entire thing. But
(27:36):
like if some jerk like my husband wants to go
up behind somebody and like slam into them, that's a
stranger or like a teenager or something, they like a
six year old so little they could just they could
just hit their chest against the little steering wheel or something.
I don't know, well, I shouldn't really be alone at
that age, honestly, no.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And I was thinking, is there a possibility she climbed
out of it or something and then got hit by her.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
One listen, got so many possibilities. There's a possibility she
had long hair that was hanging out that got caught
on something. I mean, there's just there's a million possibilities.
So we'll give an update if we hear anything. It's
it's just so sad, especially right before Christmas, for a
kid to die, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
This episode is brought to you by the Grosser Room.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
So, as I said earlier, the Grosser Room is on
sale for the last time this year. It's only twenty
dollars for a whole entire year of gross for you guys.
So we started the grocer Room back in twenty nineteen.
We just celebrated our sixth year anniversary. So you have
to think that every single post that we've done from
twenty nineteen until today, which is almost every day, sometimes
(28:52):
multiple times a day, is in the Grosser Room for
you to read while you're on your holiday break or
just you know, if you want to be with us
all year, because you're just gonna love it in there.
So every week we do a high profile death dissection
or a celebrity death disseection. This week we did holiday
freak accidents, and some of them are really crazy and unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Most of them are.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I was just like, would it be great to just
sit around the fire roasting chestnuts and talking about all
the freak ways people died during the holiday time. So
check all that out and more in the grosser room.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Head over to the grossroom dot com now to get
one year of gross for only twenty dollars.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
All right, So incidents on cruise are starting to become
a weekly story on mother No's death, you know, I've.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Never thought about cruise as much before we had to
go on the cruise last year or what was it
this year? Oh my god, it seems forever ago. Anyway,
I didn't I know, I saw the story in the
news when it happened, but I didn't know if we
covered it. So I did google cruise in the grocery room,
and there was so many posts about cruises. I'm like,
how did we go from never talking about it at
(30:05):
all to it now being such a regular segment here anyway,
So this time last year, this guy had been on
a cruise, was detained after threatening to kill crew members
and other passengers, ended up dying well in custody, And
now it's coming out that he was served thirty three
drinks on the day this all went down.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, they're gonna have they're gonna have a serious issue
with this. So and you can go back and forth
because this so, this was a Royal Caribbean cruise. This
was the one that we were on. And this guy,
I'm assuming that they knew he was drunk, but he
was banging on people's doors and telling people that he
(30:45):
was going to kill them.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, and it was so bad that the family is
claiming they had to inject him with a sedative to
calm him down and use multiple cans of pepper spray
to detain him.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Basically, and like, so, this this guy is a big guy.
He's obese, and he looks tall. He's just a huge guy.
And when you're in a situation like that, I'm sure
you have some I mean, you have security guards. I
don't know if anybody's actually carrying or whatever. But when
you have a person like this that's threatening to kill people,
(31:17):
you need to get that under control. So they gave
him this sedative medication called Hello paradol, and that is
given to people that are having like agitated psychosis. It's
to chill them out and to turn off whatever is
causing them to act like that, right. The problem is
(31:39):
is that that drug is a central nervous system depressant
and should never be given to people who just drank
thirty three drinks, which is another central nervous system depressant.
So them just giving him that medication alone caused him
to not be able to breathe properly, on top of
(32:00):
getting sprayed in the face with pepper spray, which is terrible,
and and like he died, right, and the family is
now suing, which like you kind of you kind of
look at it and you're just like, Okay, he he
drank that much. That's his fault that this has gone
like this, But like still like he should have been
(32:23):
maybe locked in a room and let him if he
could even survive drinking thirty three drinks, which I'm assuming
he can because he might have done it before or something.
I don't know, but like there's a chance that he
would have survived that. And I do understand though that
the cruise ship was just freaking out because you have
(32:44):
children and a guy that's saying that he's going to
kill people, Like, how do you how how would they
possibly get that guy even into a room to lock
him into a room. He was just a big guy
and like like having a psychotic episode.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
It's I actually think the family has a really good
case because yes, it is the responsibility of him for
drinking all those drinks, right, and you shouldn't be having
that many drinks. But as we've talked about with all
these cruise stories, you are being monitored so much on
these boats transaction wise, you have key cards, you have
(33:21):
all this stuff, and it seems like he got served
all of these drinks at one bar on the ship
and I'm sorry, thirty three drinks is absolutely excessive. And
it seems like this all went down in a short
period of time because what happened was they got on
the boat and their room wasn't ready yet. So the
family is claiming that they guided them and said, why
(33:42):
don't you hang out in this bar area until your
room is ready, But he was there with his fiance
and his seven year old son who had autism. The
fiance is saying the seven year old son was getting
extremely irritable. She then went to go check in the room,
and then the whole situation unfolded because he couldn't find
the room, so in my this is only going down
in a matter of hours. So if he's and he
(34:04):
was wasted.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
So of course he was going down a rabbit hole
because he was he had to be wasted.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, And I'm just saying, like, if he's sitting in
the same bar area, they're not realizing this man is
getting drink after drink after drink. Let's say he's even
paying cash for these drinks. You're paying with his card.
His face, I mean, he looks like he doesn't look
like everybody else that's on this boat, Like you're not
going to realize the same customer is coming up to
you so many times. If a bar i'd be for
(34:32):
a drug driver. Why can't the cruise ship be liable? No?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I know, and listen like he I just like, I've
been on that exact cruise line and I could barely
get a frickin bottle of water.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Out of these people. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
If I was like, can I have two bottles of
water so I could bring one back to my room,
they wouldn't give me to at one time. I don't
even understand how it happened exactly, because unless other people
were getting it for him.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
When Ricky was what It's doesn't seem like that because
unless he was having other people, because it seems like
he was only on the boat with the fiance and
the kid. So maybe the fiance got him a couple
of drinks, but she wasn't with him the entire time.
And let's say she got him the drink. So you're
giving each person over fifteen drinks.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, I just don't really understand it. I don't even
understand how just like I felt like one of the
things I didn't like about the cruise was I felt like,
even though it was easy like you, they weren't withholding
food from you. They also weren't trying to like if
you wanted to get a drink, you had to go
up and stand in line each individual time to get
(35:38):
something to drink, which I which just drove me nuts
because I was like, can I just bring like six
waters up to my room right now and like keep
them there and so I don't have to keep coming down,
you know, like they're very like stingy with it, you know,
so And but I told you on the drink someone
gave lucea went up to the bar at the pool
to get like a Shirley Temple, and the guy gave
(35:59):
her an alcoholic drink.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
That is completely unacceptable, it was, and.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
She drank it and was just like, dude, does this
taste weird? And I drank it and I was like,
holy shit, there's alcohol in that. And then Gabe just
like returned it and in his like you know, he
was just like, uh, I think you messed this up.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I mean, that's a huge fuck up, though, like you
really should have. I know you didn't want to be
like Karen about it, but like, what if she didn't
say anything dank the whole drink, because.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Like, I don't know, I just it's not like it's
just not that big of a deal. She had a
sip at alcohol, I'm not sip, But.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
What if she drank the entire beverage?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Well then that would have been a different situation, you know.
But most kids really don't like the taste of alcohol,
because I know I don't. So it's just, you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Like listen, it's totally this guy's fault for having that
many drinks. But like I'm thinking, if somebody leaves a
bar and gets in a car accident, the bar can
be held be held liable for overserving that person. So look,
why can't the boat because it's not like he had
eight drinks and this happened thirty three. It doesn't even
(37:08):
seem real. It doesn't.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
It's astronomical, it doesn't like that's what I'm thinking, unless
they're just like really weak. I mean, even thirty three
beers is a lot or whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
But the guy, the guy's like a big guy, like
he I mean, like I know people that could drink
a thirty pack of beer, So like, I guess it's possible,
but he was definitely he was definitely wasted. But yeah,
I mean, and I feel I feel bad because and
what like so she's on this cruise, like she's stuck
there the whole time, Like what did they do? Like
(37:45):
the guy's dead, She's on this boat. They're not gonna
You're in the middle of the ocean, Like what do
you do? I don't even know, Like it's just it's
just like a terrible situation. Yeah, I don't know, But
like I don't I don't blame them for doing because
of them injecting him with the sedative, because like I mean, otherwise,
could he have just died from alcohol poisoning.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I mean that seems insane.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
He looks very unhealthy, that I mean, And that's the
other part of the equation, is that like any little
thing could have thrown the guy over the edge because
he looks like he's not healthy. But like that's not
his problem, Like that was not when he was supposed
to die, And like they have I don't know who
injected him with this sedative. I am assuming that it
(38:33):
was a physician.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
But like know that or was it a security guard?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I don't I can't imagine that a security guard is
allowed to inject a person with something. But like it's
just known that you wouldn't give that with a person
that was having like was acutely intoxicated with alcohol like that.
It just it's just it doesn't go together, you know
what I mean. So I don't know, Like I mean
(39:00):
that right there is the problem. Everything else is you know.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
No totally all right, So new research has come out
to suggest that women's farts smell worse than men's. It's
not new research.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
I don't know why this story just so happened to
come out because it was from nineteen ninety eight. Okay,
But I mean, like I guess people are searching for content,
and it's good content, so we'll get into it. But
I want to tell you guys this because this is
like the coolest part of the study. There was this
GI doctor that wanted to see if he could figure
(39:35):
out which bacteria is causing this and which particular gas
is causing what that terrible smell is when we think
about a fart. So they took sixteen healthy adults that
had no history of GI issue and strapped onto them
something called a flatuless collecting system, which was a rectal
(39:58):
tube attached to a bag, and then they had them
eat pinto beans and take a laxative, and then researchers
collected their farts and then they let people smell theseparts
and didn't tell them that they were farts and had
them like grade on, like which one was the worst
and stuff like that. So anyway, it came down to
(40:18):
the fact that women's we were worse than men's like
by far. And they figured out that it was a
sulfur containing compound. They put it through a chromographic mass
spectrotometer and they were doing all these crazy studies on
it and figured out that it was hydrogen sulfide which
(40:39):
gives that rotten egg smell and yep.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
And ladies.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
But one thing in the article that they were saying
was like, maybe that's why women are embarrassed to fart
because it smells worse. And I'm like, no, it's just
because it's crass and it's loud. It's just like, there's
no there's it's not because you're like, oh, it smells worse,
which I disagree, honestly, like just in real life experience.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Maybe I don't know. I don't disagree, because Rick and
I were talking about this and he was like, clearly
a man did this study, and I'm like, have you
ever spelt a period far it could knock somebody out?
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Well, it's terrible, and that's a whole other thing that
they should have taken into consideration.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
But a guy wouldn't really know that.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
All Right, it's happened again another and it's always women too.
Maybe people think they're faking being dead or something. I
don't know, Like a woman was found alive in a morgue. Again,
Like how.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
I just don't understand how this keeps happening. So this
particular case happened back in twenty twenty three. So this
fifty four year old mom was making toast. She suddenly
had a seizure and collapse in her kitchen. So after
she was found, the paramedics declared her dead instead of
bringing it to the hospital, they just brought her straight
to the mortuary. And then at the mortuary she was
(41:58):
showing signs of life.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah, so I guess she had she had a seizure,
she had epilepsy, and they never took her to the hospital.
You see, I don't know why, but she was alive.
They estimated she was alive for a solid two hours,
which if she went to the hospital and got treatment,
she might very well still be alive.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
She was really young, right, fifty four that she did
ridiculous dying after but they think it's largely contributed to
her lack of care. Yeah, exactly are paramedics allowed to
declare people did? I don't know. I don't know. I'm curious.
I'm sure paramedics are listening to the show. You need
(42:38):
to let us know, because that was my first thing.
They have to be able to, yeah, because they're the
first responders on the scene. But I don't know if
it's like a system where you have to double.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Check, like they initiate the like, I'm sure there's a procedure,
but otherwise they would have to take every single call
they went on to the hospital, and I'm not sure
that they do that. So well, whoever's listening and let
us know.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I can say no, text me. I could just text
my friend Steve too and ask him, well, text Steve
and see if he gets back to you before we're
done recording this. But yeah, the family is now suing,
so I think rightfully, So do you agree? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
I do. I'm like it sucks because I'm if you
listen to this show, you'll be like, oh, Nicole wants
everybody to get sued, and I actually don't. It just
so happens that, like we talk about these stories that legit.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Our lawsuit worthy, you know, like I think we're pretty
brutally honest about whether someone's being ridiculous suing or not.
I just think lately we've had some credible ones, Like
even with the Royal Caribbean situation, I'm like, you have
to sit there and say, yes, that man was wrong
for consuming that much alcohol, but the boat was also
wrong and serving that much alcohol, and the way they
(43:53):
handled the situation. Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
And like that's the thing you can't prove if somebody
that the whole thing with the lawsuit is like that
wasn't supposed to be that person's time to die, and
you caused it to happen earlier, even though like this
lady very well could have went to the hospital and died.
But like now we don't know. And that fact that
you don't know that like weighs heavy on a jury,
(44:18):
you know.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Oh for sure? All right, onto your questions and emails. First, Nicole,
have you ever talked about your traumatic birth story on
the potter in the gross room?
Speaker 1 (44:31):
I probably never talked about it, really, I don't know
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Do you want me to talk about it right now?
I can? All right, you got an hour listen. Our
stories are very popular right now? All right.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
So, my pregnancy was with Lillian was pretty normal, and
then towards you know, I was working full time as
a PA, and towards the end, I would say, since
I was about thirty two ish weeks, I started getting
really high blood pressure. So every single time I went
to the doctor, I had high blood pressure, to the
(45:09):
point where they would be like, well, you just got
done work, So why don't you go home and come
back in the morning and we'll check it again. So
they checked it all the time, and then like I
would go back in the morning and it would be
like kind of normal. So it was like stuff like
that kept happening for a couple of weeks, and then
finally when I was like thirty six weeks, it was
really really really high and they were just like, okay,
(45:32):
we want you to stop working right now, and we
want you to do this twenty four hour urine so
they could see if I was having protein in my
urine to see if I was having signs of preoclampsia, right,
So I did that and I and it was negative.
So they just said, we'll just just like sit like
kind of relax, not bed rest one hundred percent, but
(45:53):
just kind of like chill until you have this baby.
So then I sat on the couch for like what
five four I delivered it already won some week, so
five weeks watching the Jodi Arius trial actually just was
good timing. And then so I went to the hospital
to have Lilian and I wanted to get an epidoral
(46:16):
and it was like that's when the shit show started.
The the anesthesiologist there like totally freaked out because I
had a huge tattoo on my back and just like
didn't know what to do and it tripped her out
and she didn't know if she could give it to me,
And I was just like, what are you talking about, dude,
(46:36):
Like I have four friends I can name off the
top of my head that have their back tattoo that
had epidurals with no problem. So I just I didn't
even think it was something that I had to address, right,
So she stuck me three times, maybe it was ridiculous
(46:57):
and missed or finally got it in at the very
and which did it matter anyway, No, because I literally
had Lilian within. I seriously had her within fifteen minutes
of getting the epidoral in.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
It was so stupid, So.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
I had like I didn't even I didn't even feel like,
I don't even think it worked.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
I don't even know what the hell she did. So
I have the baby.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Everything's fine, and then like a couple hours later, I
start getting a really really bad headache and I told
them I had a bad headache, and they gave me
talal and all. They gave me all that stuff, and
it wouldn't go away, and it was just getting worse
and worse, and my blood pressure was really high. So
they were like, we're going to keep you an extra day.
But then like they'd come back and check it again
(47:43):
and it was low, and then they'd come back and
it was high, back and forth whatever. I guess they
decided that I was okay to be sent home. I
still had a raging headache that wouldn't go away, and
they just couldn't tell.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Me what I needed to do for it.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
And of course breastfeeding now so that's also always a consideration.
So I go home, everything's fine, go to bed, wake
up in the morning, and like I woke up in
the morning and remember feeling like, you know, if you're
like sick and your mouth's dry and it just feels
like you have like mucus in your mouth or something.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
It's just like thick kind.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Of So I didn't think anything of it, and I
went in the bathroom, looked in the mirror, and I
had like all this brown stuff around my teeth, and
then I just kind of again I didn't think anything
of it. I just was like, oh, I guess it
was something I ate last night or whatever. And then
I was kind of out of it, you know, and
Gabe like, I'll never forget this. Like he comes up
(48:41):
to me in the bathroom and he was like he
was like had his arm around me and he's like, listen,
I don't want you to freak out right now, but
I'm going to take you to the hospital. And I
was like what are you talking about? And he's like,
we have to go to the hospital right now. And
then I was like, it is something wrong with the baby,
like that's what I thought because the baby was in
(49:02):
our room, and he was like, no, I just really
think we should go and I'm like okay. He's like,
just trust me. I just want to bring you and
I was like okay, I no idea, like what the
hell was going on? So he brought me back to
the hospital where I had the baby, and they took
my blood pressure and it was like I don't even
remember what the number was, but they rushed me right
(49:24):
in the back and they were just like we need
to take care of this right now. And then from there,
I don't really remember exactly what happened, but I was
getting like an ultrasound on my liver and I was
getting blood work and all this stuff, and finally I
got diagnosed with help, which is like a severe complication
of preoclampsia. So what happened was I was spontaneously my
(49:47):
platelets were so low, and so what happens is the
H stands for humalized, so it makes sure red blood
cells rupture and you have elevated liver enzymes and what
hap and you have low platelets. So what happened was
my platelets, which are the cells that are in your
blood that are responsible for clotting your blood, they just
(50:09):
they just weren't working, and it was so low that
I was spontaneously bleeding out of my mouth. And that's
why Gabe took me to the hospital because he said
my cover, my pillowcase was covered in blood and all
that brown stuff in my teeth was blood. And He's like,
it just was so much, and I just was like,
what the fuck is happening right now? So they put
(50:31):
me on a this is like another shit show. So
of course I still have this raging headache. They put
me on this magnesium drip, which I feel like made
my headache even worse, and but I was like so
out of it, and I was so sick. And the
best part of the whole story was that now that
(50:52):
they had discharged me from the hospital, my baby was
not a patient of the hospital anymore. You know, my
baby that was two days old and I was breastfeeding
and everything, so she wasn't allowed to stay at the
hospital with me unless there was somebody there taking care
of her. So then Gabe and my mom had to
(51:13):
take shifts back and forth to sit there with me,
and because I couldn't, I was like, I wasn't in
a coma, but I was. I was just laying there
like with my eyes shut and kind of really out
of it, and they I remember them like sticking her
on my boob and stuff.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
It was so it was so ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
And that went on for like a week, and then
of course I had a headache the whole entire time.
Brain scans everything like that. Like I was crying to
them once and I was like, please scan my head
and make sure that, like I'm not having a brain bleed,
like it hurts so bad.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
So then they did.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
They thought I was having a leak because of my
uh botched epidorals. So then I had to get this
thing called a blood patch which is like they take
blood from your arm and they put it into your
epidoral space to kind of like hopefully clot up whatever
hole is leaking spinal fluid. And that didn't work. And
(52:10):
then finally they were giving me some kind of like
migrain drugs and stuff, and then that finally made it
all go away. And then I got discharged like a
week later, and I didn't really have I mean I
probably had prioclampsia obviously the whole time. It just was
presenting in a weird kind of way. But I gained,
(52:32):
like I gained so much weight and a lot of
it was fluid. I couldn't fit my shoes on. I
remember for Christmas that year, Gabe got me this new
pair of these like nice leather fry boots, and I
after I had the baby, I couldn't wear them anymore
because they were so stretched. The leather was like so
stretched out. But when I got home from the hospital
(52:52):
a week later, I weighed thirty five pounds less than
I did when I went in. Like it was so crazy,
and it wasn't because of the like the baby ways whatever,
but it was because I had so much fluid. Remember,
I had like hitting a demon in my legs and stuff.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
So I didn't have any complications after that at all.
And then you know, then I got pregnant with Lucia,
and then I was considered low. I was considered to
be high risk then, so then I went to a
maternal fetal medicine throughout that pregnancy, and I also had
to see a hematologist too, because I had idiopathic thrombocytopenia,
(53:32):
which is just like the unknown reason why my platelets
were low. The same kind of situation could have happened again,
So they just wanted to make sure that I was
all ready to like they were all ready to take
care of me in case there was a situation.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
But I had Lucia.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
I didn't have any epidural at all, and I had
her and she came out in five minutes and it
was like totally fine.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
I went home the next day. I mean, do you
think all those problems, well, I guess you weren't being
treated for the preclampsia, right, And do you think this
problem stemmed from the epidoral.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
No, I just think I had pre aclampsia. It just
didn't present like typically. I mean, I don't know one
hundred percent because obviously, like I'm not a doctor and
I don't take care of these patients. But typically if
a person has preclampsia first they would present with with
you know, you'd still.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Have the same thing.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
You'd have the headaches and the high blood pressure and
stuff like that. But really I think it gets confirmed
by the urine has and my urine was fine, so
like I didn't have protein in my urine, so they
probably were like I mean, I was, I was working
as a PA, and I was coming from work and
I was driving in traffic in Jersey, like it just
they probably just were like, it's a fluke that it's
(54:47):
this high.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Were you on baby assprint at all or no, they
didn't think you had an issue? Yeah, yeah, I feel
like I mean they put me on baby ass.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
For me, it would have been it might have been
worse if I was on baby asprom because that that
would have been it even more like it just for
I don't know, like I'm talking out of my ass
because I don't take care of these patients, so I
don't know, Like all I know is that from from
my perspective, that's what happened. And like I said, I
was out of it for a lot of it because
(55:17):
of I feel like that magnesium shit made me feel
like I was going to die, Like there was a
there was a part that I was just like, am
I dying right now? Like what's happening right now?
Speaker 2 (55:27):
I mean, listen, that was like the worst time period ever.
Let's not forget you made me watch Deal Magnolias a
week before you gave birth, so that's all I kept
thinking about. It was absolutely terrible. And then mom I'm
picking me up from school and being like, don't be upset,
but mommy's in the hospitally, no, not supposed to be upset.
(55:48):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Well that was like I swear, it was like a
couple of weeks before I had Lucia. I was like
super pregnant and you're just like super emotional and stuff.
And Gabe was like, oh, let's watch this. Steve Buscemi
did this like documentary on nine to eleven and the
whole entire thing was about like firefighters dying at nine
(56:10):
to eleven, And I'm just like, why would you show
this to your thirty eight week pregnant wife right now?
Speaker 2 (56:17):
Like what is wrong with you? It has to be
the husband effect, because I think when I was like
five or six weeks pregnant. No, I was maybe like
I was maybe eight or nine weeks pregnant. The NHL
has been doing this documentary every year where they follow
players around during playoff time, and of course they did
an episode about Johnny Gudroau and then his wife. They're
showing footage from the funeral where the wife's saying, I'm
(56:39):
not most pregnant with her baby, it's like or nine
weeks pregnant. I was like, oh my god, I'm almost
died past. It was terrible. It was crying so bad,
getting emotional thinking about it. Oh my god. All right,
let's move on to some emails. So this is from Kara, Hi, Nicole,
and Maria. I just wanted to thank you for your
knowledge and stance on parasites and cleanses. I am a
twenty eight year old who was diagnosed two years ago
(57:01):
with MS. I've been NonStop bombarded by a couple family
members and even some girl I went to high school
with who's on an all natural pathway because our quote,
food and vaccines are poisoned. She messaged me about parasite cleanses.
Specifically ivvermectin, and my husband tells me stories about his
coworker who took ivermectin and it cured his lymphatic cancer
stage three and his MS. I just can't and don't
(57:24):
understand it. I already go through enough in my day
to day life being a mom to a three year old,
and I'm also seven months pregnant. It's not something I
think would cure my MS, nor even want to try,
because apparently many people believe I'll be cured if I do.
Thanks for reading, guys, Love the show. PS. There is
an episode you did a couple months ago about some
kid's brain accidentally left in the car and melted. I
(57:46):
think I was in my second trimester of pregnancy and
the way you were talking about quote jelly made me
throw up everywhere. Lol. My stomach got weak being pregnant.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
But I think it's hilarious. Now, that is hilarious. I'm
glad I had that effect on you.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
So, I don't know exactly what you're talking about, but
the like i've remectin is actually a medication that is
used to treat parasitic infections. I don't think that people
should just be taking it. If they don't, just in
case they do. That just seems weird to me, But
(58:25):
like that would be one of the treatments of choice
for certain parasitic infections, so it I don't I think
that that drug got a negative commutation like during COVID
and stuff. But I actually use ivermectin cream on my
face for my lupus rash. Like it's you know what
I mean, Like people use it as a medication from
(58:50):
their doctor. But I thought a parasite cleanse was more
of like some herbal thing with like senna to just
make you like shit yourself out.
Speaker 2 (59:01):
And you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (59:03):
But are people actually using ivermectin as a parasite cleanse,
because that's ridiculous because that's taking a medication that you
don't need.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
Don't You also love when you have a medical condition
and people just love chiming in about how you should
hear your own medical condition, like leave me alone.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
The thing is is that I think ever since COVID,
we've just lost so much trust in every system that
we ever had trust in. So now it's like everybody's
just looking elsewhere to get information, and I mean that
could be dangerous too, So it's like, but it's but
the authority say it's dangerous for us to do that,
(59:46):
but at the same time their advice was also dangerous,
So like whatever, I don't know. It's just like I
don't I don't know what to say about any of that,
but I would say that no one should be taking
ivermectin and like the prescribed it for an actual parasitic infection.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
All right, This last one's from Carly. I was just
listening to your episode where Nicole was talking about someone
not knowing they had a horseshoe kidney their whole life.
My husband was in the hospital not long ago for
colitis and he got a CT scan on his abdomen.
The er doctor came in and said the scan showed colitis.
But when I looked at his my chart, I saw
the scan also showed a horseshoe kidney. He had no
(01:00:26):
idea he had this, and the doctor didn't even tell
him that it was seen. I'm a nurse, so I
knew this meant he had one fused kidney. But if
he someone who's non medical had read the CT report,
he wouldn't have known what a horseshoe kidney was, Nor
did the doctor tell him. I found this so strange
that he's gone thirty years not knowing and even when
it showed on scans, he wasn't told about it. Well,
(01:00:46):
that's so exciting. Congratulations. I'm jealous. I would love to have.
It's so cool.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I remember, well, my grandma had cancer and she told
me she always would be like I only have one kiddy,
and we were like, okay, whatever, crazin and you know,
and then like she got goallbladder cancer and I read
her scan and it said that she the same thing
that you just read, and I was just like, holy shit,
she's right, she does have one kidney.
Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
She also did say kids didn't get headaches, which was
an outrageous claim.
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
It really is, actually, especially like in the think about
the days when like momm was a little kid and stuff,
and like nobody ever drank water, Like kids probably really
did have headaches all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Yeah, so yeah, you're I mean, like, of course, the doctor.
I feel like they should tell you that because it's
just nice. It's just nice to know that. I mean
a lot of people have it their whole life and
don't know. You can have some kind of problems because
of it you could get like hydro neephritis or something.
It depends how it's it's set up in the body
(01:01:51):
and what the urinor situation is and everything like that.
But I mean, it's it's cool. I think it's like
a cool thing. You should try to see if you
could get a picture of the imaging and send it
to me, because it is it's it's really cool to
look at. But I think that a person should know
when they have because there's a couple other ones that
(01:02:13):
you could get. These are like remnants of being a
growing embryo. It's something that happened while you were developing.
And you can get something called like a Mechl's diverticulum.
And that's also another one that it could just be
there and it could kind of be whatever. But like
if you have it and it's seen on imaging, you
(01:02:33):
should just know about it because you might have additional
issues that like a person with normal anatomy might not experience,
and it's just good to know that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
All right. Well, if you guys have comments or questions
you want to send into us, please submit them to
stories at motheranosdeath dot com. Don't forget to check out
our merch shop at thedoormottershop dot com. There is a
discount in the description of this episode, and please head
over to Appler, Spotify, leave a serview, or subscribe to
our YouTube channel. Thanks guys, see you tomorrow. Bye.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Thank you for listening to Mother Nos Death. As a reminder,
my training is as a pathologist's assistant. I have a
master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.
I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed
or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of
a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social
(01:03:32):
media accounts are designed to educate and inform people based
on my experience working in pathology, so they can make
healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember
that science is changing every day and the opinions expressed
in this episode are based on my knowledge of those
subjects at the time of publication. If you are having
(01:03:54):
a medical problem, have a medical question, or having a
medical emergency, please contact your physician or visit an urgent
care center, emergency room.
Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Or hospital.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Please rate, review, and subscribe to Mother Knows Death on Apple, Spotify, YouTube,
or anywhere you get podcasts.
Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Thanks
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. There's so much going
on in the news this week. I feel like there's
more stories than we've ever had this week extra, so
(00:30):
don't forget that. Obviously, we can't cover all of them
my Mother Knows Death, So we do cover additional stories
in the Grocery Room, either by linking them or with
our extra episode that we have on Fridays, which is
a YouTube live and that one gets a little crazy.
I have to tell you, you guys, it's definitely fun,
(00:50):
but it's it's very especially since it's live, like you
just never really know what's going to happen. And the
grocer Room is actually on sale for a few days
and it's our last sale of the year, So we'll
talk about that a little bit more in the episode.
But today we're going to go over some controversial medical
therapies that celebrities are getting deadly, sports and activities for kids.
(01:15):
Another death on a cruise that was ruled a homicide,
only it's not what you would think of when you
think of a homicide, with someone stabbing someone or shooting someone,
it's just kind of a really unusual story. There was
breaking news this week which is an old story but
still worth talking about that women's farts smell worse than
(01:37):
men's farts. And believe it or not, we have another
case of a woman who was found alive in a morgue.
This is like, what the third this year? Maybe even
more probably, Well, yeah, it's just not So we're going
to get into some of your comments and questions after
that and so much more on today's episode.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So we're always hearing about these.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
And actresses and famous people that are doing these things
that regular average what do we call us poor folk
don't do.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So let's talk.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Let's start first with Kylie Jenner's treatment.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
All right, So she's revealing that she got stem cell
therapy to treat chronic back pain she's experienced since her
last pregnancy three years ago. So I feel like we're
often hearing about this stem cell therapy, but I have
really no idea what it is. Could you give any
explanation for a normal person?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, First, I want to say, because I haven't seen
this and I feel like this is the obvious. Right, So,
when you're a woman that has really big boobs and
you want to get a breast reduction. The usually the
biggest reason that women want to get that surgery done
is because of what back pain, because they're back hurts, right,
(02:55):
It's because you're putting all this extra weight on your
body and on your skins, Elton, and it causes chronic
back pain. Is it possible that these huge asses that
these girls give themselves is putting extra weight on their
skeleton that isn't supposed to be there and that could
be contributing to the back pain.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Well, they have huge asses and huge boobs, so I
can't even imagine. I mean what, I'm about four months
pregnant and my boobs are already so enormous that I
want to die.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So I just wait, wait till after you have the
kid they get no bigger.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I know it's gonna get so much worse, but it
already is hurting my back so much more in the
last couple of months. I can't imagine having It's not
like I necessarily I mean, we're getting very tmi. It's
not like I necessarily had the smallest boobs in the world.
They're decent sized, but now that they're getting huge, my
back definitely hurts a lot more than it did in
(03:50):
the past. So let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
After I had Lilian, I went in the shower to
just like wash my body and my I had soap
in my one in my right hand, my dominant hand,
and was going over to my armpit to like wash.
I like couldn't even reach my arm over my boobs.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
They were so big. It was so weird.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, I was just like, I think it's just weird
because you just kind of wake up and it's like
that one day they'll get way bigger. All right, Anyway,
we're digressing. So so I mean, whatever, she's got chronic
back pain, I don't not believe her, but I have
a hard time I really think that this could be
a potential issue. Is just adding extra weight onto your
(04:34):
skeleton like that.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So what they do.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Stem cells are called misankmal cells, and they're they're cells
that could they're immature cells that could grow up to
be all different kinds of cells. So even if they
take them from fat where they take them from bone marrow,
because they're so immature, if you inject them in somewhere,
they could turn into cells that could help fix the
(04:59):
back to issue. Like tendons and ligaments and things like that.
So that's why people really like stem cells, even if
you get them from the umbilical cord. So if you
get them from the umbilical cord and inject them in
someone's back, which would probably not be the most common
way to do it, but like it wouldn't grow umbilical
cord cells because they're so immature they haven't decided what
(05:20):
they want to be when they grow up yet basically,
so it does help with inflammation and just repairing and
regenerating disk tissue that might be damaged because of pregnancy
or big.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Ass or whatever.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
So so yeah, I think the thing is is that
it's not FDA approved yet, even though a lot of
different doctors are doing it. I think one of our
friends had something similar done with her hip, but which
to me means that you have to pay cash for it,
and it's thousands and thousands of dollars and most people
(05:55):
just don't have like ten grand laying around to get
something like this done.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Listen, I don't think they're paying for it because in
my opinion, this is a brand deal. Because she said
she was inspired by Kim getting a similar treatment, and
I went back to the the post Kim made four
months ago, and they had nearly identical wording about the
disclaimers and everything, and then they tagged the clinic. These
girls are smart business women. They're not sharing this information
(06:23):
out of the kindness of their heart. I know.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I'm just saying though, to be pushing it to people,
like if you go with the percentage of their followers.
Nobody's got money laying around like that, So you're getting
people to go there and they can't use their insurance,
so it's like a huge out of pocket cash thing.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So it's the same with the pernuvo and everything. You know,
it's just like they're getting.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
These The people that are getting it for free are
actually the ones that could afford it.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, basically, but they're very influential and people are going
to look into it. If it can really help somebody,
go for it. But I'm not gonna sit here and
be like, oh my god, she's such a good person
sharing this experience she had with this doctor, Like, I
don't think so, you know what else is nuts?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Like? So there's a picture of her and she, of
course she has to show her lower back with this
giant bandage on it, and her butt looks does not
look how it used to look? Is it possible? I
really think that they're getting butt reductions now?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Well, you know this is an interesting that you interesting
point that you just brought up, because I was listening
to another podcast the other day and they were talking
about how weird it is how open they are about
every procedure they've gotten done but won't talk about their butts,
and I do think that is weird.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
It is actually that they're They're like, yeah, my face
is totally jacked, like I had everything done. And then
I saw an article this weekend too that Chris Jenner
said everything on her face has been touched except her nose,
and I was like, girl, your nose looks like Michael
Jackson's right now, Like what are you talking about? Maybe
not in this late latest round of plastic surgery that
she had done, but you mean to tell me that
(08:06):
your nose is naturally occurring like that?
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, the same podcast I was just last the same
podcast I was just referencing, was also saying also talking
about the same exact thing, and just saying, is it
an optical illusion that her nose looks like it's touched
or is she just being like, oh, well, I haven't
touched it as much as I've touched other parts of
my body. To me, it's worked on you know. I mean,
(08:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
It doesn't look natural to me, but whatever. All right,
let's talk about Bryce Harper. He's one of our star
players on the Phillies. He also had a controversial procedure
that regular people don't get. So, wait, did you just
hear that Schwarber got resigned? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
I was just gonna say so happy. Schwarby just resigned.
Thank god, thank god.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Because he's my favorite player and I'm now I'm going
to commit. I wouldn't buy a shirt for him until
he committed to signing with us, So.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I'll make your Barbie shirt finally.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, I want a Barbie shirt that says Schwarby. I
will make it for you now in cricket. All right,
But Bryce Harper posted on Instagram that he recently underwent
a blood procedure where one third of his blood was
drawn from his body, put through this specialized process, and
then returned into his bloodstream. So this is called etra
corporal blood oxygenation and ozonation therapy, but which is just
(09:29):
a fancy way of saying it's they're kind of doing
a similar thing that you would do with dialysis. You
take your blood out of your body, it goes into
a machine. It's adding oxygen and it's adding ozone gas
and it's filtering it out and then it's putting it
back into the body. And for obvious reasons, this is
(09:49):
like kind of frowned upon and it's definitely not FDA
approved yet.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I'm just so over these people sharing these weird.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Surprised Like the other the stem cell thing, I'm into,
and I feel like at some point that's really going
to be a standard of care, once they could figure
out how to do it, do it safely, do it effectively,
cost effectively, all that stuff. This one, on the other hand,
it just has a lot more physicians are kind of
(10:21):
against it. It's not it's like I said, it's not
FDA proof, which like whatever. At this point, the FDA
is like you could either go back or forth. But
there's some level of people that are are wary of
this particular type of medical treatment. And the biggest reason
is is because it could lice the red blood cells
(10:42):
when they're coming out. You can give someone an air embolism,
which is really freaking scary. And that's when there is
air that is traveling with the blood going through your
going through your body, and it could go into your
brain and give you a stroke like effect. It's really
really scary. Also can go into your lungs. So I'm
(11:07):
actually surprised that someone on his level would would risk
this because he's like, like a very high level baseball
player that's kind of in his prime right now. Well
maybe not, but he's like he.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Is the attention whore of the century. I mean, think
about his stupid headband that says show.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Me I no, I like listen whatever, he's on our team,
you can't no.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I listen.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I'm grateful that that's happened private.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
You can't bash him on in public like this.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Listen. Two things could be true. You could be thankful
they're on your team, but you could also hate their
guts because they're annoying. People. Also collapse for your pronunciation
of that process because I never would have been able
to say it. And I think we should maybe do
a segment called mispronunciation of the week because everybody loved
when you said Jonnifer last week. Oh I was saying
(12:04):
Jonathan Taylor, Tom, I couldn't.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I couldn't get it out either. Oh, it's probably it's
really good. Well, so wait, so what did I say
last week that was really good? When we were talking
about the cockroaches and what their exoskeleton is made out of,
and I said, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Like that chitlin you said chin, But then.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I was like, it's no, it's not. And and the
best part is is I was I was like laughing
out loud about it, because like, isn't a chitlin like
some kind of way to cook, like pagan testines or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I don't know where I got the word, but it's
just funny and it has nothing to do with the
exoskeleton of of a cockroach. Actually, I was on the
phone with Pop Pop this morning and I was just like,
you know what, man, we can never get him to
gut on the show and be him true self, but
like maybe we should secretly record him and put it
(13:07):
on here. We can tell him afterwards. Of course, mabul
get his permission, But did you see him? He just
talks so good, like he's just so good and entertaining,
and I'm like he wouldn't. He would be like, Hi,
how are you Like, Oh, he wouldn't be himself at
Allume he's in his natural element.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Forget it. He's just saying everything he says. Do you
ever see those memes? It's like when your family member
says something outrageous at a family party and then it's
like somebody trying to make eye contech with somebody else.
That's like all of us at every single function he's at.
It's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Like Gabe actually has a document and you have a
document of things that he says that are hilarious. Like
you guys pull out your phone all the time and
just write it down because it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Well, did you see it was funny? We were talking
about our Philly accent last week because when I was
just in Canada over the weekend, there was a coffee
shop called Milk like, Oh I say it em me okay,
which was so weird and random. They also had a
Panzerati place, So random is random, all right.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
So there's been a couple of stories about Dudley's sports
and activities for kids. So I actually I don't really
know anybody that does this, but I can't even believe
that anyone does this with their children.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well, yeah, I was surprised because I feel like often
when we're talking about deadly or dangerous sports for children,
it's something to do with contact sports, meaning mostly tackle football.
But they're saying that new evidence is suggesting that motocross
is the most dangerous for kids. Yeah, which is what
is it? Exactly? Like, explain what motocross is. I mean,
(14:47):
motocross is just basically when you're like riding I believe,
a motorized dirt butt. It's basically a motorcycle. People are
on of sorts and they're going on these dangerous dirt roads.
And I was surprised to see that kids as young
as four are competing in these competitions.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah. I feel like some point this year we talked
about kids doing a similar thing with like race cars
or something.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
No, I feel like we had another motocross story. Was
that what it was?
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I thought it was a car or something, but regardless. Yeah,
So now they're saying that it's even more I mean,
like seven times more likely to get injuries than football players,
which is the second, you know, the second most common
way that kids get injured playing sports and there's been
(15:34):
The statistics are really wild for this, So I guess
they wear a lot of different They wear gear, safety gear, right,
so they wear helmets and they wear chest plates and
protective clothing. But like that, I just think that that's
such a false sensic security, especially people who ride motorcycles too,
(15:55):
Like people don't really realize. I have cases in the
gross room where there's like a person's head who's completely
chopped off and has a motorcycle helmet on still, and
it's like, yeah, maybe he didn't break his skull, but
like he doesn't have his head attached to his body,
so like who cares at that point? But all of
these injuries have been noted that they're still happening on
(16:17):
kids that are wearing helmets, fatal injuries including fractured spine, neck,
internal organ damage, especially to the chest from slamming against
the handlebars of the bike, and a lot of it happens.
So I guess they do like competitive racing on tracks
and things, and I guess. I mean, this story really
(16:38):
went into detail interviewing different people who have experienced a
child dying because of this, and the one family was
suing the motocross a place where they were competing at
because they let two people go on the track at
the same time or something and they're not supposed to
do that, which I understand, but at the same time,
(17:00):
like when you're letting your kid do a sport like that,
you just have to know that there's a high probability
that they're going to get really hurt or possibly even die.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Well, let's get into the statistics too, because USA Today
did this investigation. So they found that one hundred and
fifty eight children and teens have died on dirt bikes
and at these tracks since two thousand, which is more
than six a year. Nineteen of those fatalities involved riders
ten years old or younger, and two thirds of those
deaths happened on a track. And they were saying, like
(17:30):
you were talking about, they were interviewing families throughout the
article about people that were injured or killed in these situations,
and they were citing the most dangerous things as mixed
riding like you're saying, which is when there's multiple riders
on a track, or mostly when kids are on a
track with an adult with a way more advanced bike.
They were also saying there's major issues with trees or
(17:51):
other obstacles being too close to the track. They said,
sometimes there's these like blind jumps where they can't see
below when they're about to go over them, and sometimes
riders are falling below that jump, so if another rider's coming,
they can't see if somebody is down, and there's no
alert system at all letting them know somebody's down then
to watch out. And then they're just saying because it's
(18:13):
like a dirt track that it's uneven, there's a lot
of grooves that could cause them to lose balance. So
I think there's a lot of issues. And like you're saying,
the equipment is providing this false sense of safety, and
it's like you're getting in a horrific car accident, or
not car accident, but vehicular accident of the sort. So
what does it matter if you're wearing the protection, Like
(18:35):
think about it. Seatbelts save a lot of people. They
don't save everybody, depending on the severity of the accident.
It's just a.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Totally different situation when you're talking about I mean, people
just like they need to know what I feel. Like
last week, some influencer there's there's a big thing now
apparently with like hot sexy girl influencers like straddling these
bikes and riding these motors and all of these girls
want to do it now, and it's like this one
(19:03):
influencer just died, and it's just like, dude, when it's
you against the road or the pavement or the dirt,
it's just not going to end well, especially when you're
being flung, you're not restrained. Even getting in car accidents
like seatbelt versus not going through the windshield and stuff,
you just have such a lower chance of surviving if
(19:23):
you get ejected from from somewhere. I guess my question
is that we had a story on the news a
couple of years ago of this mom that got in
trouble for like letting her ten year old walk home
by himself, right or something.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
It was something ridiculously yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
You're just like, like, if you put your kid in
a situation where they're going to get hurt, the parents
could be held liable if you put them in a
situation where they could where they could get seriously injured
or harmed. Where is the line get drawn with something
like this that clearly it's a dangerous thing. And I
(20:02):
know six that's the year is not that much. It's
just not But the population of people who do this
is very, very small, so it might make it a
little bit more significant that six people are dying. But
on top of that, just because a person's not dying,
it doesn't mean that they don't have lifelong injuries. Like
(20:23):
could be something as simple as a broken leg, which
just sucks too, but like it could be kids that
have permanent brain damage and brain injury and they're still
physically alive, but their whole entire quality of life is gone.
So I'm curious what you guys think about that, or
if you or anyone that you know does this particular sport.
(20:43):
But one of the moms in the article said something like,
you know, you let your kid go into swimming pool,
and however many kids a year drowned into swimming pool,
which is which is absolutely true. But I would go
out and say that if you did a survey, almost
like it has to be very high in the eighty
(21:05):
percent of children in the world go in a swimming
pool at some point. It's just like kids go even
if they don't have one, they go in a public one,
or they go in a friend's one, or at some
point on the sort.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Of body of water.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Yeah, oh shit, whatever, right, So it's just like so, yeah,
like a lot of kids do die drowning, but it's
it's so many kids compared to how many do motocross
zero points zero zero one percent of the population. Like
that's all that. That's all I'm trying to say. And
so it does seem like it's very deadly based on
(21:41):
the ratio of how many people actually do it.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, And I mean they're also saying the other major
issues they're facing is I guess the tracks aren't inspected.
So one family is fighting to pass a law that
they have to be inspected. And then medical staff that
is on site is either not quick enough or not
trained enough to know how to handle these injury, which
is also a major problem. So I don't know, I mean,
(22:05):
I I think this is just like I can't even
imagine putting a four year old on like a motorcycle
essentially and letting them go on a road like this.
A lot of it is probably.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Cultural, like their dad did it, their mom did it, whatever,
and they want their kid to do it. And you know,
we actually come from a family like my dad rode
a motorcycle its whole entire life. And so you know,
we always have these these arguments with people because people
think that it's like, and my dad says that all
(22:38):
the time, like he always was a safe driver and
he never had like I mean, he had a couple
of situations, but he never had anything serious because he
wasn't driving in between lanes of traffic and things like that.
Because trust me, especially living in Philly, you see that
all the time that you just see people that you're like, oh,
they're going to be at the medical examiner later because
(23:00):
they're driving like a total idiot. You know. But the
bottom line is is that especially now at least in
New Jersey and Philly, that everybody is high driving and
everybody is texting and driving. You could be the best
motorcycle driver ever and somebody could hit you because they're.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Not paying attention.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's just like unfortunately, I actually I say this all
the time, Like when I rotated at the Medical Examiner's office,
I couldn't believe how many people died every day from
motorcycle accidents.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
It's like it's just.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Not even reported. You might hear one or two on
the news once in a while, but there's just so
much more.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
No, I mean, I would argue to say that somebody,
everybody that listens to the show knows somebody or knows
a friend and a friend or a couple degrees of
separation of somebody that died or was seriously injured in
a motorcycle accident.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
And that was something I feel like. Mo Mom even
said that because she used to ride on the motorcycle
with Pop Pop. But then when she when they started
having kids, my mom made a decision like I'm not
going on it with him because if something happens, then
our kids aren't going to have parents.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah for you know, so all right. So, in other
child safety news, a six year old has died after
getting into a go kart accident at a trampoline park
in Florida.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
So yeah, it's kind of a similar thing. I actually
went to this exact place before what's it called Urban
Air or something during COVID, because in New Jersey everything
was shut down in twenty twenty in the summer. There
was nothing open and we couldn't do anything. So we
went to Florida to see my father in law, and
(24:37):
like everything was open and everyone was in there without masks,
and life was totally functioning, so it was awesome. We
went there and it was cool. The kids had a
good time and stuff. And we've done these go kart
things before. We just did go karts on our last trip, uh,
one of our last trips when we were in the
Pocono's I think, and we did them in Tennessee. We
(25:00):
don't we do them all the time, So I mean
it sucks. But it's the same exact thing, like the
one that's near your house that you brought the kids to.
They put helmets on the kids, right, I feel like
there was helmets.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, I don't. I could look back at pictures I
took that they remember when I took them it was
the worst day of their life.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I mean, this is and this is what sucks because
when you talk about the last story in this story
and things like that, it's just like you go, you
go back and forth because we talk about such freak
things all the time and there's just no way that
you can't ever let your kids do stuff. And there's
a lot of times there's emergency room doctors who who
(25:40):
do these videos on social media that say, like here
are ten things I would never let my kids do,
and one of them is always going to a trampoline park.
But I just think in general at that place they
have the go kart and the trampolines and everything they
have there can potentially hurt a kid.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, I'm wondering if so. They didn't really release exactly
what happened yet, So I'm wondering if they're going to
see there was negligent or some type of accident where
something wasn't functioning correctly. I mean, it seems pretty bad.
She was airlifted to the hospital and obviously died from
the injuries. So what Like I'm thinking, you know, those
things do go fast, but there's bumpers and safety measures
(26:20):
in place so that they can't crash into each other
and everything, So like what happened exactly, they.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Can though, Like I feel like the last one we
went on, especially some of them go faster. It's when
you go on it's just like, don't don't use these
as bumper cars. They specifically say that all the time. Yeah,
but to know, Gabe, I'm telling you, one time we
went to I had I was by myself in a
(26:48):
go cart in Gatlinberg.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
And uh, what's fantasy, right?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
And I was driving the thing, and Gabe was thought
he was being so cute, and he slammed into the
back of my of my go kart so hard that
my glasses flew off of my face, like into the
the track, and I was just and then I couldn't
see because I was driving, and I was just like,
(27:16):
you're you're such a douche whatever. But regardless, like he
and He's sitting there with him and Lulu are sitting
there crying, laughing at me. They thought it was great,
but like that was that was like a pretty significant
like force in order for that to fly off my
face like that, And like I'm a grown up and
I'm like I basically fit inside the entire thing. But
(27:36):
like if some jerk like my husband wants to go
up behind somebody and like slam into them, that's a
stranger or like a teenager or something, they like a
six year old so little they could just they could
just hit their chest against the little steering wheel or something.
I don't know, well, I shouldn't really be alone at
that age, honestly, no.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
And I was thinking, is there a possibility she climbed
out of it or something and then got hit by her.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
One listen, got so many possibilities. There's a possibility she
had long hair that was hanging out that got caught
on something. I mean, there's just there's a million possibilities.
So we'll give an update if we hear anything. It's
it's just so sad, especially right before Christmas, for a
kid to die, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
This episode is brought to you by the Grosser Room.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
So, as I said earlier, the Grosser Room is on
sale for the last time this year. It's only twenty
dollars for a whole entire year of gross for you guys.
So we started the grocer Room back in twenty nineteen.
We just celebrated our sixth year anniversary. So you have
to think that every single post that we've done from
twenty nineteen until today, which is almost every day, sometimes
(28:52):
multiple times a day, is in the Grosser Room for
you to read while you're on your holiday break or
just you know, if you want to be with us
all year, because you're just gonna love it in there.
So every week we do a high profile death dissection
or a celebrity death disseection. This week we did holiday
freak accidents, and some of them are really crazy and unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Most of them are.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I was just like, would it be great to just
sit around the fire roasting chestnuts and talking about all
the freak ways people died during the holiday time. So
check all that out and more in the grosser room.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Head over to the grossroom dot com now to get
one year of gross for only twenty dollars.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
All right, So incidents on cruise are starting to become
a weekly story on mother No's death, you know, I've.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Never thought about cruise as much before we had to
go on the cruise last year or what was it
this year? Oh my god, it seems forever ago. Anyway,
I didn't I know, I saw the story in the
news when it happened, but I didn't know if we
covered it. So I did google cruise in the grocery room,
and there was so many posts about cruises. I'm like,
how did we go from never talking about it at
(30:05):
all to it now being such a regular segment here anyway,
So this time last year, this guy had been on
a cruise, was detained after threatening to kill crew members
and other passengers, ended up dying well in custody, And
now it's coming out that he was served thirty three
drinks on the day this all went down.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Yeah, they're gonna have they're gonna have a serious issue
with this. So and you can go back and forth
because this so, this was a Royal Caribbean cruise. This
was the one that we were on. And this guy,
I'm assuming that they knew he was drunk, but he
was banging on people's doors and telling people that he
(30:45):
was going to kill them.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, and it was so bad that the family is
claiming they had to inject him with a sedative to
calm him down and use multiple cans of pepper spray
to detain him.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Basically, and like, so, this this guy is a big guy.
He's obese, and he looks tall. He's just a huge guy.
And when you're in a situation like that, I'm sure
you have some I mean, you have security guards. I
don't know if anybody's actually carrying or whatever. But when
you have a person like this that's threatening to kill people,
(31:17):
you need to get that under control. So they gave
him this sedative medication called Hello paradol, and that is
given to people that are having like agitated psychosis. It's
to chill them out and to turn off whatever is
causing them to act like that, right. The problem is
(31:39):
is that that drug is a central nervous system depressant
and should never be given to people who just drank
thirty three drinks, which is another central nervous system depressant.
So them just giving him that medication alone caused him
to not be able to breathe properly, on top of
(32:00):
getting sprayed in the face with pepper spray, which is terrible,
and and like he died, right, and the family is
now suing, which like you kind of you kind of
look at it and you're just like, Okay, he he
drank that much. That's his fault that this has gone
like this, But like still like he should have been
(32:23):
maybe locked in a room and let him if he
could even survive drinking thirty three drinks, which I'm assuming
he can because he might have done it before or something.
I don't know, but like there's a chance that he
would have survived that. And I do understand though that
the cruise ship was just freaking out because you have
(32:44):
children and a guy that's saying that he's going to
kill people, Like, how do you how how would they
possibly get that guy even into a room to lock
him into a room. He was just a big guy
and like like having a psychotic episode.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
It's I actually think the family has a really good
case because yes, it is the responsibility of him for
drinking all those drinks, right, and you shouldn't be having
that many drinks. But as we've talked about with all
these cruise stories, you are being monitored so much on
these boats transaction wise, you have key cards, you have
(33:21):
all this stuff, and it seems like he got served
all of these drinks at one bar on the ship
and I'm sorry, thirty three drinks is absolutely excessive. And
it seems like this all went down in a short
period of time because what happened was they got on
the boat and their room wasn't ready yet. So the
family is claiming that they guided them and said, why
(33:42):
don't you hang out in this bar area until your
room is ready, But he was there with his fiance
and his seven year old son who had autism. The
fiance is saying the seven year old son was getting
extremely irritable. She then went to go check in the room,
and then the whole situation unfolded because he couldn't find
the room, so in my this is only going down
in a matter of hours. So if he's and he
(34:04):
was wasted.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
So of course he was going down a rabbit hole
because he was he had to be wasted.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah, And I'm just saying, like, if he's sitting in
the same bar area, they're not realizing this man is
getting drink after drink after drink. Let's say he's even
paying cash for these drinks. You're paying with his card.
His face, I mean, he looks like he doesn't look
like everybody else that's on this boat, Like you're not
going to realize the same customer is coming up to
you so many times. If a bar i'd be for
(34:32):
a drug driver. Why can't the cruise ship be liable? No?
Speaker 1 (34:35):
I know, and listen like he I just like, I've
been on that exact cruise line and I could barely
get a frickin bottle of water.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Out of these people. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
If I was like, can I have two bottles of
water so I could bring one back to my room,
they wouldn't give me to at one time. I don't
even understand how it happened exactly, because unless other people
were getting it for him.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
When Ricky was what It's doesn't seem like that because
unless he was having other people, because it seems like
he was only on the boat with the fiance and
the kid. So maybe the fiance got him a couple
of drinks, but she wasn't with him the entire time.
And let's say she got him the drink. So you're
giving each person over fifteen drinks.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, I just don't really understand it. I don't even
understand how just like I felt like one of the
things I didn't like about the cruise was I felt like,
even though it was easy like you, they weren't withholding
food from you. They also weren't trying to like if
you wanted to get a drink, you had to go
up and stand in line each individual time to get
(35:38):
something to drink, which I which just drove me nuts
because I was like, can I just bring like six
waters up to my room right now and like keep
them there and so I don't have to keep coming down,
you know, like they're very like stingy with it, you know,
so And but I told you on the drink someone
gave lucea went up to the bar at the pool
to get like a Shirley Temple, and the guy gave
(35:59):
her an alcoholic drink.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
That is completely unacceptable, it was, and.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
She drank it and was just like, dude, does this
taste weird? And I drank it and I was like,
holy shit, there's alcohol in that. And then Gabe just
like returned it and in his like you know, he
was just like, uh, I think you messed this up.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
I mean, that's a huge fuck up, though, like you
really should have. I know you didn't want to be
like Karen about it, but like, what if she didn't
say anything dank the whole drink, because.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Like, I don't know, I just it's not like it's
just not that big of a deal. She had a
sip at alcohol, I'm not sip, But.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
What if she drank the entire beverage?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Well then that would have been a different situation, you know.
But most kids really don't like the taste of alcohol,
because I know I don't. So it's just, you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Like listen, it's totally this guy's fault for having that
many drinks. But like I'm thinking, if somebody leaves a
bar and gets in a car accident, the bar can
be held be held liable for overserving that person. So look,
why can't the boat because it's not like he had
eight drinks and this happened thirty three. It doesn't even
(37:08):
seem real. It doesn't.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
It's astronomical, it doesn't like that's what I'm thinking, unless
they're just like really weak. I mean, even thirty three
beers is a lot or whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
But the guy, the guy's like a big guy, like
he I mean, like I know people that could drink
a thirty pack of beer, So like, I guess it's possible,
but he was definitely he was definitely wasted. But yeah,
I mean, and I feel I feel bad because and
what like so she's on this cruise, like she's stuck
there the whole time, Like what did they do? Like
(37:45):
the guy's dead, She's on this boat. They're not gonna
You're in the middle of the ocean, Like what do
you do? I don't even know, Like it's just it's
just like a terrible situation. Yeah, I don't know, But
like I don't I don't blame them for doing because
of them injecting him with the sedative, because like I mean, otherwise,
could he have just died from alcohol poisoning.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I mean that seems insane.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
He looks very unhealthy, that I mean, And that's the
other part of the equation, is that like any little
thing could have thrown the guy over the edge because
he looks like he's not healthy. But like that's not
his problem, Like that was not when he was supposed
to die, And like they have I don't know who
injected him with this sedative. I am assuming that it
(38:33):
was a physician.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
But like know that or was it a security guard?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
I don't I can't imagine that a security guard is
allowed to inject a person with something. But like it's
just known that you wouldn't give that with a person
that was having like was acutely intoxicated with alcohol like that.
It just it's just it doesn't go together, you know
what I mean. So I don't know, Like I mean
(39:00):
that right there is the problem. Everything else is you know.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
No totally all right, So new research has come out
to suggest that women's farts smell worse than men's. It's
not new research.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
I don't know why this story just so happened to
come out because it was from nineteen ninety eight. Okay,
But I mean, like I guess people are searching for content,
and it's good content, so we'll get into it. But
I want to tell you guys this because this is
like the coolest part of the study. There was this
GI doctor that wanted to see if he could figure
(39:35):
out which bacteria is causing this and which particular gas
is causing what that terrible smell is when we think
about a fart. So they took sixteen healthy adults that
had no history of GI issue and strapped onto them
something called a flatuless collecting system, which was a rectal
(39:58):
tube attached to a bag, and then they had them
eat pinto beans and take a laxative, and then researchers
collected their farts and then they let people smell theseparts
and didn't tell them that they were farts and had
them like grade on, like which one was the worst
and stuff like that. So anyway, it came down to
(40:18):
the fact that women's we were worse than men's like
by far. And they figured out that it was a
sulfur containing compound. They put it through a chromographic mass
spectrotometer and they were doing all these crazy studies on
it and figured out that it was hydrogen sulfide which
(40:39):
gives that rotten egg smell and yep.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
And ladies.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
But one thing in the article that they were saying
was like, maybe that's why women are embarrassed to fart
because it smells worse. And I'm like, no, it's just
because it's crass and it's loud. It's just like, there's
no there's it's not because you're like, oh, it smells worse,
which I disagree, honestly, like just in real life experience.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Maybe I don't know. I don't disagree, because Rick and
I were talking about this and he was like, clearly
a man did this study, and I'm like, have you
ever spelt a period far it could knock somebody out?
Speaker 1 (41:16):
Well, it's terrible, and that's a whole other thing that
they should have taken into consideration.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
But a guy wouldn't really know that.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
All Right, it's happened again another and it's always women too.
Maybe people think they're faking being dead or something. I
don't know, Like a woman was found alive in a morgue. Again,
Like how.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
I just don't understand how this keeps happening. So this
particular case happened back in twenty twenty three. So this
fifty four year old mom was making toast. She suddenly
had a seizure and collapse in her kitchen. So after
she was found, the paramedics declared her dead instead of
bringing it to the hospital, they just brought her straight
to the mortuary. And then at the mortuary she was
(41:58):
showing signs of life.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah, so I guess she had she had a seizure,
she had epilepsy, and they never took her to the hospital.
You see, I don't know why, but she was alive.
They estimated she was alive for a solid two hours,
which if she went to the hospital and got treatment,
she might very well still be alive.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
She was really young, right, fifty four that she did
ridiculous dying after but they think it's largely contributed to
her lack of care. Yeah, exactly are paramedics allowed to
declare people did? I don't know. I don't know. I'm curious.
I'm sure paramedics are listening to the show. You need
(42:38):
to let us know, because that was my first thing.
They have to be able to, yeah, because they're the
first responders on the scene. But I don't know if
it's like a system where you have to double.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Check, like they initiate the like, I'm sure there's a procedure,
but otherwise they would have to take every single call
they went on to the hospital, and I'm not sure
that they do that. So well, whoever's listening and let
us know.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
I can say no, text me. I could just text
my friend Steve too and ask him, well, text Steve
and see if he gets back to you before we're
done recording this. But yeah, the family is now suing,
so I think rightfully, So do you agree? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (43:18):
I do. I'm like it sucks because I'm if you
listen to this show, you'll be like, oh, Nicole wants
everybody to get sued, and I actually don't. It just
so happens that, like we talk about these stories that legit.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
Our lawsuit worthy, you know, like I think we're pretty
brutally honest about whether someone's being ridiculous suing or not.
I just think lately we've had some credible ones, Like
even with the Royal Caribbean situation, I'm like, you have
to sit there and say, yes, that man was wrong
for consuming that much alcohol, but the boat was also
wrong and serving that much alcohol, and the way they
(43:53):
handled the situation. Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
And like that's the thing you can't prove if somebody
that the whole thing with the lawsuit is like that
wasn't supposed to be that person's time to die, and
you caused it to happen earlier, even though like this
lady very well could have went to the hospital and died.
But like now we don't know. And that fact that
you don't know that like weighs heavy on a jury,
(44:18):
you know.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Oh for sure? All right, onto your questions and emails. First, Nicole,
have you ever talked about your traumatic birth story on
the potter in the gross room?
Speaker 1 (44:31):
I probably never talked about it, really, I don't know
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
Do you want me to talk about it right now?
I can? All right, you got an hour listen. Our
stories are very popular right now? All right.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
So, my pregnancy was with Lillian was pretty normal, and
then towards you know, I was working full time as
a PA, and towards the end, I would say, since
I was about thirty two ish weeks, I started getting
really high blood pressure. So every single time I went
to the doctor, I had high blood pressure, to the
(45:09):
point where they would be like, well, you just got
done work, So why don't you go home and come
back in the morning and we'll check it again. So
they checked it all the time, and then like I
would go back in the morning and it would be
like kind of normal. So it was like stuff like
that kept happening for a couple of weeks, and then
finally when I was like thirty six weeks, it was
really really really high and they were just like, okay,
(45:32):
we want you to stop working right now, and we
want you to do this twenty four hour urine so
they could see if I was having protein in my
urine to see if I was having signs of preoclampsia, right,
So I did that and I and it was negative.
So they just said, we'll just just like sit like
kind of relax, not bed rest one hundred percent, but
(45:53):
just kind of like chill until you have this baby.
So then I sat on the couch for like what
five four I delivered it already won some week, so
five weeks watching the Jodi Arius trial actually just was
good timing. And then so I went to the hospital
to have Lilian and I wanted to get an epidoral
(46:16):
and it was like that's when the shit show started.
The the anesthesiologist there like totally freaked out because I
had a huge tattoo on my back and just like
didn't know what to do and it tripped her out
and she didn't know if she could give it to me,
And I was just like, what are you talking about, dude,
(46:36):
Like I have four friends I can name off the
top of my head that have their back tattoo that
had epidurals with no problem. So I just I didn't
even think it was something that I had to address, right,
So she stuck me three times, maybe it was ridiculous
(46:57):
and missed or finally got it in at the very
and which did it matter anyway, No, because I literally
had Lilian within. I seriously had her within fifteen minutes
of getting the epidoral in.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
It was so stupid, So.
Speaker 1 (47:13):
I had like I didn't even I didn't even feel like,
I don't even think it worked.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
I don't even know what the hell she did. So
I have the baby.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Everything's fine, and then like a couple hours later, I
start getting a really really bad headache and I told
them I had a bad headache, and they gave me
talal and all. They gave me all that stuff, and
it wouldn't go away, and it was just getting worse
and worse, and my blood pressure was really high. So
they were like, we're going to keep you an extra day.
But then like they'd come back and check it again
(47:43):
and it was low, and then they'd come back and
it was high, back and forth whatever. I guess they
decided that I was okay to be sent home. I
still had a raging headache that wouldn't go away, and
they just couldn't tell.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Me what I needed to do for it.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
And of course breastfeeding now so that's also always a consideration.
So I go home, everything's fine, go to bed, wake
up in the morning, and like I woke up in
the morning and remember feeling like, you know, if you're
like sick and your mouth's dry and it just feels
like you have like mucus in your mouth or something.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
It's just like thick kind.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Of So I didn't think anything of it, and I
went in the bathroom, looked in the mirror, and I
had like all this brown stuff around my teeth, and
then I just kind of again I didn't think anything
of it. I just was like, oh, I guess it
was something I ate last night or whatever. And then
I was kind of out of it, you know, and
Gabe like, I'll never forget this. Like he comes up
(48:41):
to me in the bathroom and he was like he
was like had his arm around me and he's like, listen,
I don't want you to freak out right now, but
I'm going to take you to the hospital. And I
was like what are you talking about? And he's like,
we have to go to the hospital right now. And
then I was like, it is something wrong with the baby,
like that's what I thought because the baby was in
(49:02):
our room, and he was like, no, I just really
think we should go and I'm like okay. He's like,
just trust me. I just want to bring you and
I was like okay, I no idea, like what the
hell was going on? So he brought me back to
the hospital where I had the baby, and they took
my blood pressure and it was like I don't even
remember what the number was, but they rushed me right
(49:24):
in the back and they were just like we need
to take care of this right now. And then from there,
I don't really remember exactly what happened, but I was
getting like an ultrasound on my liver and I was
getting blood work and all this stuff, and finally I
got diagnosed with help, which is like a severe complication
of preoclampsia. So what happened was I was spontaneously my
(49:47):
platelets were so low, and so what happens is the
H stands for humalized, so it makes sure red blood
cells rupture and you have elevated liver enzymes and what
hap and you have low platelets. So what happened was
my platelets, which are the cells that are in your
blood that are responsible for clotting your blood, they just
(50:09):
they just weren't working, and it was so low that
I was spontaneously bleeding out of my mouth. And that's
why Gabe took me to the hospital because he said
my cover, my pillowcase was covered in blood and all
that brown stuff in my teeth was blood. And He's like,
it just was so much, and I just was like,
what the fuck is happening right now? So they put
(50:31):
me on a this is like another shit show. So
of course I still have this raging headache. They put
me on this magnesium drip, which I feel like made
my headache even worse, and but I was like so
out of it, and I was so sick. And the
best part of the whole story was that now that
(50:52):
they had discharged me from the hospital, my baby was
not a patient of the hospital anymore. You know, my
baby that was two days old and I was breastfeeding
and everything, so she wasn't allowed to stay at the
hospital with me unless there was somebody there taking care
of her. So then Gabe and my mom had to
(51:13):
take shifts back and forth to sit there with me,
and because I couldn't, I was like, I wasn't in
a coma, but I was. I was just laying there
like with my eyes shut and kind of really out
of it, and they I remember them like sticking her
on my boob and stuff.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
It was so it was so ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
And that went on for like a week, and then
of course I had a headache the whole entire time.
Brain scans everything like that. Like I was crying to
them once and I was like, please scan my head
and make sure that, like I'm not having a brain bleed,
like it hurts so bad.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
So then they did.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
They thought I was having a leak because of my
uh botched epidorals. So then I had to get this
thing called a blood patch which is like they take
blood from your arm and they put it into your
epidoral space to kind of like hopefully clot up whatever
hole is leaking spinal fluid. And that didn't work. And
(52:10):
then finally they were giving me some kind of like
migrain drugs and stuff, and then that finally made it
all go away. And then I got discharged like a
week later, and I didn't really have I mean I
probably had prioclampsia obviously the whole time. It just was
presenting in a weird kind of way. But I gained,
(52:32):
like I gained so much weight and a lot of
it was fluid. I couldn't fit my shoes on. I
remember for Christmas that year, Gabe got me this new
pair of these like nice leather fry boots, and I
after I had the baby, I couldn't wear them anymore
because they were so stretched. The leather was like so
stretched out. But when I got home from the hospital
(52:52):
a week later, I weighed thirty five pounds less than
I did when I went in. Like it was so crazy,
and it wasn't because of the like the baby ways whatever,
but it was because I had so much fluid. Remember,
I had like hitting a demon in my legs and stuff.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
It was crazy.
Speaker 1 (53:08):
So I didn't have any complications after that at all.
And then you know, then I got pregnant with Lucia,
and then I was considered low. I was considered to
be high risk then, so then I went to a
maternal fetal medicine throughout that pregnancy, and I also had
to see a hematologist too, because I had idiopathic thrombocytopenia,
(53:32):
which is just like the unknown reason why my platelets
were low. The same kind of situation could have happened again,
So they just wanted to make sure that I was
all ready to like they were all ready to take
care of me in case there was a situation.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
But I had Lucia.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
I didn't have any epidural at all, and I had
her and she came out in five minutes and it
was like totally fine.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
I went home the next day. I mean, do you
think all those problems, well, I guess you weren't being
treated for the preclampsia, right, And do you think this
problem stemmed from the epidoral.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
No, I just think I had pre aclampsia. It just
didn't present like typically. I mean, I don't know one
hundred percent because obviously, like I'm not a doctor and
I don't take care of these patients. But typically if
a person has preclampsia first they would present with with
you know, you'd still.
Speaker 2 (54:26):
Have the same thing.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
You'd have the headaches and the high blood pressure and
stuff like that. But really I think it gets confirmed
by the urine has and my urine was fine, so
like I didn't have protein in my urine, so they
probably were like I mean, I was, I was working
as a PA, and I was coming from work and
I was driving in traffic in Jersey, like it just
they probably just were like, it's a fluke that it's
(54:47):
this high.
Speaker 2 (54:48):
Were you on baby assprint at all or no, they
didn't think you had an issue? Yeah, yeah, I feel
like I mean they put me on baby ass.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
For me, it would have been it might have been
worse if I was on baby asprom because that that
would have been it even more like it just for
I don't know, like I'm talking out of my ass
because I don't take care of these patients, so I
don't know, Like all I know is that from from
my perspective, that's what happened. And like I said, I
was out of it for a lot of it because
(55:17):
of I feel like that magnesium shit made me feel
like I was going to die, Like there was a
there was a part that I was just like, am
I dying right now? Like what's happening right now?
Speaker 2 (55:27):
I mean, listen, that was like the worst time period ever.
Let's not forget you made me watch Deal Magnolias a
week before you gave birth, so that's all I kept
thinking about. It was absolutely terrible. And then mom I'm
picking me up from school and being like, don't be upset,
but mommy's in the hospitally, no, not supposed to be upset.
(55:48):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (55:50):
Well that was like I swear, it was like a
couple of weeks before I had Lucia. I was like
super pregnant and you're just like super emotional and stuff.
And Gabe was like, oh, let's watch this. Steve Buscemi
did this like documentary on nine to eleven and the
whole entire thing was about like firefighters dying at nine
(56:10):
to eleven, And I'm just like, why would you show
this to your thirty eight week pregnant wife right now?
Speaker 2 (56:17):
Like what is wrong with you? It has to be
the husband effect, because I think when I was like
five or six weeks pregnant. No, I was maybe like
I was maybe eight or nine weeks pregnant. The NHL
has been doing this documentary every year where they follow
players around during playoff time, and of course they did
an episode about Johnny Gudroau and then his wife. They're
showing footage from the funeral where the wife's saying, I'm
(56:39):
not most pregnant with her baby, it's like or nine
weeks pregnant. I was like, oh my god, I'm almost
died past. It was terrible. It was crying so bad,
getting emotional thinking about it. Oh my god. All right,
let's move on to some emails. So this is from Kara, Hi, Nicole,
and Maria. I just wanted to thank you for your
knowledge and stance on parasites and cleanses. I am a
twenty eight year old who was diagnosed two years ago
(57:01):
with MS. I've been NonStop bombarded by a couple family
members and even some girl I went to high school
with who's on an all natural pathway because our quote,
food and vaccines are poisoned. She messaged me about parasite cleanses.
Specifically ivvermectin, and my husband tells me stories about his
coworker who took ivermectin and it cured his lymphatic cancer
stage three and his MS. I just can't and don't
(57:24):
understand it. I already go through enough in my day
to day life being a mom to a three year old,
and I'm also seven months pregnant. It's not something I
think would cure my MS, nor even want to try,
because apparently many people believe I'll be cured if I do.
Thanks for reading, guys, Love the show. PS. There is
an episode you did a couple months ago about some
kid's brain accidentally left in the car and melted. I
(57:46):
think I was in my second trimester of pregnancy and
the way you were talking about quote jelly made me
throw up everywhere. Lol. My stomach got weak being pregnant.
Speaker 1 (57:55):
But I think it's hilarious. Now, that is hilarious. I'm
glad I had that effect on you.
Speaker 2 (58:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:01):
So, I don't know exactly what you're talking about, but
the like i've remectin is actually a medication that is
used to treat parasitic infections. I don't think that people
should just be taking it. If they don't, just in
case they do. That just seems weird to me, But
(58:25):
like that would be one of the treatments of choice
for certain parasitic infections, so it I don't I think
that that drug got a negative commutation like during COVID
and stuff. But I actually use ivermectin cream on my
face for my lupus rash. Like it's you know what
I mean, Like people use it as a medication from
(58:50):
their doctor. But I thought a parasite cleanse was more
of like some herbal thing with like senna to just
make you like shit yourself out.
Speaker 2 (59:01):
And you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (59:03):
But are people actually using ivermectin as a parasite cleanse,
because that's ridiculous because that's taking a medication that you
don't need.
Speaker 2 (59:14):
Don't You also love when you have a medical condition
and people just love chiming in about how you should
hear your own medical condition, like leave me alone.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
The thing is is that I think ever since COVID,
we've just lost so much trust in every system that
we ever had trust in. So now it's like everybody's
just looking elsewhere to get information, and I mean that
could be dangerous too, So it's like, but it's but
the authority say it's dangerous for us to do that,
(59:46):
but at the same time their advice was also dangerous,
So like whatever, I don't know. It's just like I
don't I don't know what to say about any of that,
but I would say that no one should be taking
ivermectin and like the prescribed it for an actual parasitic infection.
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
All right, This last one's from Carly. I was just
listening to your episode where Nicole was talking about someone
not knowing they had a horseshoe kidney their whole life.
My husband was in the hospital not long ago for
colitis and he got a CT scan on his abdomen.
The er doctor came in and said the scan showed colitis.
But when I looked at his my chart, I saw
the scan also showed a horseshoe kidney. He had no
(01:00:26):
idea he had this, and the doctor didn't even tell
him that it was seen. I'm a nurse, so I
knew this meant he had one fused kidney. But if
he someone who's non medical had read the CT report,
he wouldn't have known what a horseshoe kidney was, Nor
did the doctor tell him. I found this so strange
that he's gone thirty years not knowing and even when
it showed on scans, he wasn't told about it. Well,
(01:00:46):
that's so exciting. Congratulations. I'm jealous. I would love to have.
It's so cool.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I remember, well, my grandma had cancer and she told
me she always would be like I only have one kiddy,
and we were like, okay, whatever, crazin and you know,
and then like she got goallbladder cancer and I read
her scan and it said that she the same thing
that you just read, and I was just like, holy shit,
she's right, she does have one kidney.
Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
She also did say kids didn't get headaches, which was
an outrageous claim.
Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
It really is, actually, especially like in the think about
the days when like momm was a little kid and stuff,
and like nobody ever drank water, Like kids probably really
did have headaches all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Yeah, so yeah, you're I mean, like, of course, the doctor.
I feel like they should tell you that because it's
just nice. It's just nice to know that. I mean
a lot of people have it their whole life and
don't know. You can have some kind of problems because
of it you could get like hydro neephritis or something.
It depends how it's it's set up in the body
(01:01:51):
and what the urinor situation is and everything like that.
But I mean, it's it's cool. I think it's like
a cool thing. You should try to see if you
could get a picture of the imaging and send it
to me, because it is it's it's really cool to
look at. But I think that a person should know
when they have because there's a couple other ones that
(01:02:13):
you could get. These are like remnants of being a
growing embryo. It's something that happened while you were developing.
And you can get something called like a Mechl's diverticulum.
And that's also another one that it could just be
there and it could kind of be whatever. But like
if you have it and it's seen on imaging, you
(01:02:33):
should just know about it because you might have additional
issues that like a person with normal anatomy might not experience,
and it's just good to know that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
All right. Well, if you guys have comments or questions
you want to send into us, please submit them to
stories at motheranosdeath dot com. Don't forget to check out
our merch shop at thedoormottershop dot com. There is a
discount in the description of this episode, and please head
over to Appler, Spotify, leave a serview, or subscribe to
our YouTube channel. Thanks guys, see you tomorrow. Bye.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Thank you for listening to Mother Nos Death. As a reminder,
my training is as a pathologist's assistant. I have a
master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.
I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed
or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of
a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social
(01:03:32):
media accounts are designed to educate and inform people based
on my experience working in pathology, so they can make
healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember
that science is changing every day and the opinions expressed
in this episode are based on my knowledge of those
subjects at the time of publication. If you are having
(01:03:54):
a medical problem, have a medical question, or having a
medical emergency, please contact your physician or visit an urgent
care center, emergency room.
Speaker 2 (01:04:05):
Or hospital.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Please rate, review, and subscribe to Mother Knows Death on Apple, Spotify, YouTube,
or anywhere you get podcasts.
Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Thanks
Elvis Duran and the Morning Show ON DEMAND News
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com