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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,
Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're going
to be talking about a pretty well known person who
has died from assisted suicide, a possible new serial killer,
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spraying seamen on people, and pooping on an airplane. Let's
get started with the Leapfrog founder assisted suicide. All right,
So Mike Wood, who was the founder of the educational
toy company Leapfrog, died at age seventy two by assisted
suicide in Zurich, Switzerland. Yes, so Switzerland is it's legal
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to for physician assistant suicide. It's not legal everywhere in
the world. But there's a difference between physician assistant suicide
and euthanasia because the physician is just providing the medications
to the person, but they have to take it themselves,
so they're the ones that technically kill themselves, not the physician,
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whereas euthanasia, the physician would give the medications directly to
the person that would kill them. Okay, I don't think
I realized there was a difference between the two. So
it's actually a really interesting story. One of the innovators
are the beginning. Doctors who used to do this was
doctor Jackovorky, and I don't remember. He was really controversial
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when I was younger, and he was a pathologist actually
ironically who thought that people should be able to die
with dignity and he should be able to euthanize them essentially,
And he was actually sent to prison for eight years
and was found guilty of second degree murder. And now
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it's just so crazy how far we've come that that
this is now okay in a lot of different areas
of the world. Yeah, I mean in this case, I
guess the controversy today is now that it's legal. In
some places, it's like who's to deem who's eligible and
who's not. So like in this case, for Mike Wood,
he is seventy two years old. He was diagnosed recently
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with Alzheimer's. He had seemingly been undergoing some treatment for it,
but was just like, I'm not doing this, and he
made the decision. So he went to this nonprofit in
Zurich and he did it on April tenth, and he
was surrounded by his family and he died the way
he wanted to. So I guess in a lot of
these circumstances. People would say, well, like, of course, if
you were diagnosed with something like dementia Alzheimer's and you
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know exactly like maybe something else like we were talking
about last week or the last two weeks, als something
you know is going to kill you and be a
horrible death. Right, maybe these people make the decision to
go forward this and people are more accepting of it.
But then there's been these situations where there's people like
my age, in their late twenties early thirties that are
making the decision to do it because they just don't
want to be alive anymore. And that's where it's sparking controversy.
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Who cares, Well, a lot of people care, but listen, like,
why does anybody care about what I'm doing with my life? Well, yeah,
I guess because like I don't give it. Okay, you
could care, but like that's not your problem, that's my problem. Yeah,
But it's it's still suicide at the end of the day,
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whether it's assisted or not. So I guess people just
have a problem with people helping people die by suicide. Yeah,
I guess. I But like I just think it's dumb.
Like I think if you're gonna do it. You're gonna
do it. You're going to do it exactly like people
might just whatever. I we don't have to get into
a debate about that. I just never really understood like
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why people are getting involved with that, Like if a
person decides they want to die, like you're you're like
someone else trying to tell people how to live their life.
It's well, that's how society operates today. So that's not
really surprising in general. All right, So the physician assistant
suicide in switzerland's kind of interesting. There's a company there
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called Dignata that is a non for profit organization that's
helped over a thousand people die by suicide since nineteen
ninety eight. So what's interesting, I guess is that when
you die by suicide in Switzerland, it automatically triggers a
death investigation, right, which would be the same here or
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anything like that. And they're starting to get worried about
the cost of that because people are going there for
death tourism, which means that if you want to die
and you know that you want to do this, you
can go on a trip there and get it done there,
but you're not a tax payer or whatever. So like
you're not paying into the system that pays for these
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death investigation, so you understand how that could become a
burden on a country. So this company, since they do
so many of them, they have this agreement with the
Switzerland government that as soon as the person takes the
cocktail and dies, they video record the whole thing happening,
so then the police can see it happening, and then
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afterwards the police come and then the funeral directors will
come pick up the body and they have like a
whole entire system for it, which will kind of help
along the process of not taking so much resources for
the death investigation. And the whole thing is just so
we're going to do a high profile death dissection on
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this because it's super interesting. But basically, this particular company
or organization gives pentobarbital, which is a drug that causes
the central nervous system to kind of shut down and
you'll go into you'll it's it's just kind of like
when you're getting ready to go into surgery, like you'll
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fall asleep and won't even know what's happening. It's just
crazy because they mix the powder with water and have
you take a drink, and before you even take the drink,
they say to say all your final words, because they're like,
you're going to have about three to five minutes before
you fall asleep, and then you die within thirty to
forty minutes of that. Wow. Yeah, it's it's really nuts.
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But so there was a so there's a case, a
couple cases of course, because there's like controversy and problems
with everything. So this woman that went there had so
the company has like a whole entire thing of what
you have to go through if you have to contact them,
and then they want you to send your medical records
over and they want you to prove while you're doing this,
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and there's counseling and if you decide you don't want
to do it, that's fine, and all this stuff. Well,
apparently one of this woman that was sixty nine years
old sent her medical records over to this company and
saying that she had terminal cirrhosis, and she was given
an autopsy afterwards, and they found that she not only
did not have cirrhosis, but she was one hundred percent
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perfectly physically fine anyway, and she had fudged the medical
records because she suffered from depression in order to get
this done and then so you know, there's all this
controversy about that, and I don't know. The way I
look at it is like, and I've said this from
the beginning, like mental illness is just like having cancer
in an organ or something. It's just pathology in your brain.
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And I don't see why that matters if that's if
the woman wanted to die. Just don't see why that
matters in my opinion. But it is like kind of
crazy that you could just give someone a little shot
glass of something and kill them that quickly. So for
the past couple of weeks, I've been hearing rumblings about
a serial killer in Austin, so I'm kind of surprised.
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There's also rumors going around that there's one in New
England too. I haven't even heard about the Austin one well,
so that's not is highly publicized. But when I was
looking into it, it seems like a couple of bodies
have been found at Ladybirds Lake. So there's been all
this speculation about this killer, but they're unconfirmed. They're calling
this person the Rainy Lake Killer. And last year, this
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change dot org came out where they were explaining that
twenty plus bodies have been found there in multiple years.
So of course everybody in the true crime world and
these citizens louse are on it. But of course the
same thing's happening with New England too. Yeah, it's crazy
because when you look at the map of where all
of these bodies have been being found in New England,
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it's the radius is kind of huge and it's hours
away from each other. I'm not saying that it's not possible,
but just the fact that there's dead people doesn't mean
that there's a connection, and it also doesn't mean it
doesn't mean anything honestly. I mean, so yesterday they were
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saying that eight bodies were potentially connected to this serial
killer in New England, and as of the Sporting Fox
was reporting that two more bodies have been found, So
now people want to try to rope that in two.
So we potentially have ten dead bodies, most of them
are female, I think the ones that they are are
not saying specifically or female or bodies that were remains
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that were unidentifiable, So they don't know for a fact
yet if those remains belong to females or not. But yeah,
I agree with you the net of where this person is,
but that's the only thing that they have in common
is that they're dead bodies basically, and maybe that they're women.
But even they showed pictures of three of the ladies,
and like you, I don't know. I feel like sometimes
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when when a person's a serial killer, you look at
their victims and they all are kind of like similar.
You know, Jeffrey Dahmer's it's just like they had like
a certain demographic. And it's the same with Ted Bondy.
They all, you know, and this one's just kind of
like I can't Like two of the women look to
be around my age, and it's it's a black chick
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and a white chick, and then there's like an older
black woman who looks like she's in her sixties. Like
I'm kind of like I don't see the connection there,
and like it's totally possible, but as of right now,
the police haven't said anything right as far as there's
a connection, like they all had their throat sliced or
something like that, Like there was nothing out there yet
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that we've heard. So I think this is important to
note when we've talked to like crime scene investigators like
Cheryl and everything. Right, it's like, even if there is
a connection, this is an open case and this person
is possibly still in the loose, so the police are
not going to exactly be that forthcoming about it at
this time because it's an investigation. So you have these
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people online, like this Facebook group that has almost seventy
thousand members perpetuating these rumors that the serial killers in existence,
which very well may be true. But you're like criticizing
the police for not being forthcoming about it. But it's
an open investigation and you don't want to tip the
killer off if there really is a serial killer active
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right now. God, they have to be so extra closed
lip about stuff because they're scared to death of any
These like true crime people on these online forums are
like intense aggressive. Wait see, you're gonna love this too.
So this Facebook group was called New England serial Killer
and I went on it today. I joined it to
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try to see what it was about. But my pending
approval still But their name has been changed to pending
new group name. Meta just did that? They like told
they just removed their name New England serial Killer and
change the group name. Depending new group name Are you serious? Yeah,
and they like literally when you go on to join
the group and it's showing you like the rules of
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the Facebook group and everything. It's like, for absolutely no reason,
Facebook change the name of our group and we don't
know it there's there. I'll tell you why, because the
same bullshit that they do to me every day. I
posted my mystery diagnosis, what's today Tuesday? Yesterday, today's Monday? Yeah,
we have no idea. I have no idea what it is.
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I posted it, and so I posted it on Instagram
and then I copied it to Facebook, and within five
minutes I had it removed from Facebook. And I'm not
going to tell you what the answer is because it's
an open mystery diagnosis. But it's not graphic violence like
they said it was and flagged me. Well, they did
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restore it Tuesday morning. So according to on my Facebook,
when I logged into my Facebook because I have yours
attached to mine, it said that they had restored it
and they realized their review team had made an error. Well,
at least they look at all the other at least
they look at it, because Instagram they don't. They don't
look at it. Did I tell you guys that I'm
banned from going live on Instagram for three hundred and
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sixty five days right now. But you've you've consecutively been
banned for three hundred and sixty five now I keep well,
it keeps, it keeps starting me five days for three
hundred and sixty five days. Yes, so I can't go
live like it's just amazing. So that's why, because they're
cracking down on like any I'm surprised. I won't be
surprised if it continues this way that any people will
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be able to talk about any true crime stuff at all,
because they're cracking down on it so hard it's just outrageous.
So I find the concept of a new serial killer
to be really fascinating because you just want to think
today with DNA and forensic advancements and you know, everything
like that in technology, that it would be really hard
to be a serial killer. But then when you look
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at the Long Island serial killer and you see how
he went undetected for so long, it really is interesting
to look about and to look at and these bodies,
you know, they were at first seemingly being reported that
they were all these women were being killed with since
the beginning of March. But these bodies have been found
since the beginning of March, and they're in various states
of decomposition, so you know, some of them have seemed
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to be killed maybe even years ago. Yeah, that doesn't
we know that that doesn't really matter at the time,
because sometimes they take breaks for years and then come back.
But I mean, I don't I don't really so listen,
you know when COVID was happening, and every day they
were like they had that ticker with all the people
that died, and I was just kind of like, this
is the dumbest shit ever. People die every single day
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all day at the hospital, right, yes, like they just
they would. They would even in my town, like for
years after COVID, like it was like twenty twenty two,
they would be like, oh, two people in Camden County
died today. Like it was so ridiculous, And people die
shit every day every day. It was so ridiculous. It
annoyed the shit out of me. So I'm not you know,
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I don't work for the police, and I don't know
in a given day how many dead bodies they find
here and there. But I mean, for sure in Philadelphia
it was it was often that they would just be like, oh,
this person was found in the street, or this person
was found on the river, this, this and this. But
but like a lot of it is drugs, a lot
of it's like homelessness. I don't I don't really know
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how many people. And you're and New England is like
a broad term for like three states, right, like a
huge frickin' area, So I don't know how many dead
bodies they find, And this could just totally be like
not super out of the normal. I don't really know,
but I mean, like obviously, just based on the three people,
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we see two women that seem to be about in
their thirties or forties, and then one woman that appears
to be in her sixties. Like if these if if
women that are healthy or just go a missing like this,
then like and then like their dead bodies are being
found somewhere, and like obviously the medical examiner and the
cops know so much more about what injuries they had,
especially they were saying some of them had remains, but
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some of them were like intact bodies. They know how
these people are getting killed, so so like they're gonna
see differences and stuff. They're not they're not gonna say
anything because, like we said, because of the investigation. Yeah,
I mean, I think everybody has a right to speculate
and everything. And of course we talk about true crime,
and it's very fascinating to us, and these stories come
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up and they're fascinating to look at and to see
in this day and age. But you also have to
respect the investigators there if there is a real serial
killer on the luze trying to catch that person to
save more people's lives. So like, back off and let
these people please do their jobs the right way and
stop sensationalizing everything, all right. This next story was what
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I referenced on yesterday's episode about eye for an eye punishment,
and I really think these terrible people should have to
go through the same horrific experience they put this child through.
So last September, this twelve year old was brought to
the hospital for having uncontrollable seizures. This hospital visit prompted
an investigation after doctors noticed a child was malnourished and
covered in bruises and cuts. She also only weighed fifty pounds,
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which is severely underweight for a child that age. So
the investigation basically revealed this horrific abuse at the hands
of this child's mother and her grandmother. So, Lillian's twelve
years old, and she is like see through skinny, right,
She's like one of the skinniest people that you know
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as a child, right, And she weighs almost one hundred pounds. Yes,
So I'm like, which I thought was kind of like
because I was like when I was in fifth grade,
I was like ninety nine pounds. I remember, it was
before I went to middle school, for sure. So so
thinking about a child of my daughter's age being half
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of that weight is disturbing and disgusting to me, unless
they had an underlying medical condition, of course. But when
she was brought to the hospital, the mom was saying
that she had given her fifty milligrams of benadryl and
sixty milligrams of militony, which is a lot of both
for fifty pounds. You would think that like twenty five
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milligrams would be a lot on the on the higher end.
So gave more than a double dose to this kid
of benadryl and god melatonin. I give the kids two
point five gram of miltonin like on Sunday nights to
help them wind down from the weekend sixty milligrams and
one sitting Like, I wonder why the kid was having
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freaking seizures with all this shit. Plus she was underweight
and malnourished, and that's nothing compared to what was going
on in the home. So according to a neighbor, because
another point we're gonna have to talk about is that
multiple people knew this abuse was going on and didn't
do anything about it. So according to a neighbor, the
girl would be tied up to her bed, quote like
Jesus on the Cross, where they'd make her, you know,
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go to the bathroom, tied to the bed and eat
cat food. Yeah, and they had a security camera watching
over her too, And that is the messed up thing
is that when they're interviewing witnesses, they're like, yeah, they
used to feed her cat food and this and that,
and it's like, well, why the fuck didn't you call
the police? Then, like they those people should also get arrested.
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I'm serious. And then there was a lot going on though,
Like the kids showed up at school with a black
eye and she told the kids she got work hurt
walking into a wall, and I guess that's a rough
situation because like everybody that's got kids knows that they
ball and stuff all the time. So if you're a
teacher and you have a kid that is walking into
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school with bruises, I mean, I don't know what the
protocol is there. I think if a kid tells you that, whatever,
But then it's like I guess they withdrawed the kid
from school. It's just like apparently the kid. I don't
know if you read this that the kid had multiple
broken bones from twenty seventeen, like emergency room visits, like
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that should trigger something right there. Well, that and then
after the incident where she got the black eye, I
went to school, the par the mother then pulled her
out of school. Yeah, so like do you not have
to be checked up on after something like that? Or
nobody thought weird, this kid came the school with visible
bruises and a black eye and that was immediately pulled
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out of the school system. I don't know. I just
because like if a kid, the kid falls, and like
if that was a true story and they the homeschooling rules,
they don't do that, like if you pull the kid
out of school. I did it with the girls, like
when they were younger, like Lillian had started kindergarten already,
and I figured out what to do about it, and
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I just had to write the principal letter and be like,
as of this day, I'm homeschool with my kid, and
that was the end of the story. Like, nobody checked
in on me. Ever, again, they don't know if my kids.
I mean, that kind of seems like not a good idea,
But you weren't doing anything wrong. So like if somebody
did have to check on you every six months, you
wouldn't have a problem with it, right, But now I
would have a problem with it. They don't need to
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be checking on me every six months. It's my kids.
Like I don't know, I'm like a less government involved
kind of person. I don't think people need to be
checking on me. But like in an abuse situation, I'm
not really concerned about the school as much as the
I believe when you go when children are brought to
the emergency room and they have fractures, this is something
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that would be considered something that would trigger But I
guess if you go to multiple urgent cares or hospitals,
they might not have communicating records that would show that
the kid was there multiple times for fractures. All right,
So this is the point I was trying to make
up though, where it's like they tie this poor little
girl to this bed, they make her eat catfood, they
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make her go to the bathroom on herself in this bed.
These people should be set on fire, like, like, I'm serious,
people that abuse children like this should have the worst
absolute punishment. You are not going to go to jail
and be rehabbed for this, You were just going to
get worse. What is it? Because we talked about this
with the Ruby frank thing and stuff. It's just very
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interesting to me that grown ups just decide. And this
is the girl's mother and her grandmother. It's like what
makes grown ups decide that? And a lot of times
when there's a couple children living in the house, they
pick like one kid, like what is that? Well, you know,
I want to say it rub Frankie. And also like
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Lori Valo, for example, they use their religion as an
excuse to abuse their children. So in those two cases,
they try to say that their children are possessed by
the devil, which goes against their personal beliefs, and then
they use the religion as an excuse to abuse the children,
to get the devil out of them, and it's just
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really disgusting behavior. Yeah, but that doesn't appear to be
what happened in this case and lots of other cases.
It's just it's just a very weird thing to me
that you've you know, I think it's normal human nature.
As we could see, there always has to be like
a villain and a bad eye in someone's life that
it just makes people feel better whatever, Like how do
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you how do you look at at a child and
decide that they're the one you're gonna take all your
anger out on or to blame for all your problems
or something. It's just it's just really bizarre and and like, honestly,
I equally think that the neighbor that's aw this going
on should should I don't think that she should be
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set on fire like the parents or the grandmom and
the mom, but she definitely should serve jail time for
not reporting that, because if you don't report a murder,
you'll get in trouble. What world do you live in
like that your neighbor is going to say to you,
You're like, yeah, my kid's tied up and I'm watching
her on the camera and she h, you know, I'm
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feeding her cat food? Like what, like how the in
any way is that something that you hear from someone
and you're not instantly repulsed and alarmed and want to
call police. It's just weird, Like where where were they living?
So I never go there. It's just like so disgusting
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of behavior, Like I can't wrap my head around it.
And it's like these there's so many instances where child
are beat by their parents or starve their parents, are
you know, emotionally abused by their parents. But something about
tying a child up, feeding them cat food multiple like
just repeatedly beating them, it's just so disgusting and people,
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it just it has it leaves you with little faith
in humanity that people like this are able to have children,
Like it really does. Yeah, it makes me sad too
because I think about like, like every single meal my
kids eat lunch or their snacks are a pack and dinner.
I want them if they don't like something, I'm always
kind of like, all right, well, like let's try to
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make you something else, or let's see if you could
try something else, And like it's not fair to kids
that there's some kids that are my kid's age that
are being treated and coddled and loved, and then there's
other kids that are their same age that might be
classmates or friends of theirs, on their softball team or
at their school that are being treated this poorly. It
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really breaks your heart that any child has to be
treated like that. You know, well, we have to applaud
the doctor for reporting them and getting them investigators. Another
thing that I want to know is when this was reported.
And yes, of course, and because that is a lot
for a doctor, I'm sure because you're looking at this
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and you're like, Okay, this looks really bad, and then
you look at this little innocent child and you're like no,
like your mind tells you there's no way that somebody's
doing this intentionally. There has to be a reason for this,
and and like if I call, it's going to open
a whole can of worms, and like it could cause
problems and this and that. But yes, right thing to do.
But why did it take from September until this week
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for the parent, for the grandmother and the mother to
finally get arrested. I don't know. It seems like they
should have been put in jail that day. Well, it
seems like the girl was taken immediately after the hospital
visit and was in custody with the state at that
time while the investigation was happening. But I agree, seven
months is absolutely ridiculous for them to get arrested. But
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at least they have been arrested and they're in jail.
But you know, a bond's been said. Why, Like, I
don't think these people deserve at all to get out now.
This is death penalty worthy to me. This episode is
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(27:17):
fricking creep This scares me. In the UK, this twenty
two year old guy had been stalking several women, specifically
when they were taking their children to school from their homes,
and in one case, he took a syringe filled with
his semen and sprayed one of the victims with it. Yeah,
real cute, right he So he was putting on this
(27:37):
red hoodie every day and then he would put a
mask on, and then he would put on a trench
coat and he would stalk these women and follow them.
And then creepster went home and wrote about it in
his diary and made notes and put plans as what
he wanted to do with the women to sexually assault them.
He also assigned them nicknames. One woman did realize he
(27:59):
was follow her and got so scared that she stopped
taking her kid to school because she feared for their safety.
He was wearing the same outfit every day. And I'm sorry,
but anyone that wears a trench coat is a freaking weirdo.
That's like, that's like fashionable right now, No they're not,
but they're just not. I'm sorry. So like you're automatically
you're automatically triggering me if I see you wearing a
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trench coat. But go ahead, all right. So anyway, he
was caught after one of the women reported him to
police after she realized he had been following her for
a while, so he ended up getting arrested that day.
He pleaded guilty to four counts of stalking, sexual assault
by spraying the woman with the seamen filled syringe, and
possession of indecent images of a woman engaging in sexual
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acts with a dalmatian and a horse that they founded
his house later that day. That I know, it's so
gross and that video like actually we wrote a whole
entire high profile that the section on Beast Reality two,
which is you know what it, I warn you if
you want to read it, because there's some things you
could just never unread. And knowing that people do this
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and I mean this is not like an AI thing,
like people are literally having sex with the animals and
recording it and people are then getting off on it.
It's I'm personally traumatized from that right up about the
guy from Jerry Springer seeing the extended version of him
talking about putting panties on his horse wife. But anyway,
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I'm more surprised that he was with a female horse
because usually when you see a dude screw a horse,
it's it's a male horse screwing the guy, which I don't.
I just want to know how you physically pull that off,
because I don't. I just trying to figure it out.
I don't understand how you feel. But whatever, I don't
think I need to look that stuff up. Ever. Again,
I saw quite enough when weird doing research for that.
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But this stalker was at in sad three years and
four months. This is a major problem. That is not
enough time, and he's not going to stop doing this
and these women are going to be probably living this
all over again in a couple of years. All right,
So here's an interesting part of this story. So apparently
they gave him a psychological report and described him as
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having low intellectual ability and highlighted that he had autism
traits which resulted in him becoming fixated. Well, is that
what happened? Is that what they're trying to say happen
with Brian Coberger because like, it doesn't matter, he still
committed a crime. I understand that. I understand that I
do understand that, but like, let's say a person, let's
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say a person like this had down syndrome, would you
feel differently about that, because like, there's different it's it's different,
but there's there's all different levels of autism with with
the intellectual ability. I'm just I'm just saying, like, I
don't I wouldn't exactly say that. This is with Brian Coberger,
because with Brian Coberger, no one ever heard of the
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dude having an autism until he murdered people and then
he was like, hey, let me try this loophole, Like
that's bullshit. Okay, Well, if this is legitimately the problem
in this case, maybe he doesn't go to jail, but like,
if he's no, he needs to get some of these crimes.
He needs to get some form of treatment, because going
to jail for a couple of years is I'll never forget.
When we did the interview with doctor Dass and he
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was saying that most of the time in his book,
he was saying most of the time that when these people,
like sexual predators for example, are put in jail, it
only makes their infatuation grow. It does not rehabilitate them.
It makes it worse. So like I see this as,
let's say I'm one of these victims of this stalker,
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I'm gonna be scared. It's like, you have four years
of freedom and then this guy's gonna get back out
and probably start following you again. It's I mean, he
has he has an obsession with it, and it's it's
creepy and like, was he ever really going to sexually assault?
I mean he kind of did with the semen thing
for sure, but like, was he ever going to do
(31:58):
all the stuff that he wrote down? Like who knows? Yes,
because most of the times these people start off doing
little things and then they escalate. Yeah, but that doesn't
mean that they're that they're one hundred percent going to
do it. Another crazy part of this story is that
he had an online girlfriend in the United States that
he never met. Could you do you know how many
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times I've heard of people dating people on these like
whatever it is, match dot Com that's probably not even
a thing anymore, but one of those like dating websites
or whatever, and they live in another city or another
state or another country, and you just like really have
no idea who the person is. So there's someone in
America right now that's been dating this guy online. Well yeah,
(32:42):
and they're like, well, we put him on the Sex
A Sex Offenders Register for seven years and given them
a ten year restraining order. A restraining order is a
piece of paper, and people violate them all the time.
Imagine beating a guy when you're thirty and just being like, hey,
what's up, and like not really knowing, and then finding
out like, oh, yeah, he used to follow women around
and throw a semen on them, Like you wouldn't even
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know about it because he wouldn't even be on the
list anymore. There's this episode of thirty Rock where Tina
Fey is going out with this actor. He's on a
bunch of commercials right now. Anyway, she's going out with them,
and then she comes home one day and she's watching
to Catch a Predator and he comes on to catch
a predator. I always, you know what's crazy. I always
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see these articles online that'll be like Camden County man
caught with child pornography or something, And there was just
one in Morristown recently, and I'm just like, you know
what if I, like, I swear to God one day,
it's going to be somebody that you know, and obviously
people know these people, and you're just like, what do
you even feel like when you see that? It's just
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so nuts, like somebody that you know that lives in
your neighborhood or something, or well, I have that story
about I don't know if I'm gonna share that one.
All right, maybe we should move on to the Southwest Pooper. Yeah, so,
I mean this is not really a story. Of course,
it originated in Philadelphia. The woman might possibly be one
(34:08):
of my neighbors who just decided to get naked and
take a shit on the seat in the airplane. I yeah,
my first thought was, of course, the flight started in Philadelphia,
was heading to Chicago, and as the flight started landing,
this woman just completely gets naked and then takes a
shit on her seat. It doesn't seem like it was
(34:29):
like a colon blow diarrhea situation where if she could
not make it to the bathroom in time. It seems
like it was an intentional I was wondering if it
was a coal and blow situation, because of like, if
you have colon blow, you tend to get really hot
and sweaty. Now that would explain the kid. You would
never take off your clothes in front of somebody. Obvious
it was a true diarrhea story. Obviously, I was gonna say,
(34:52):
at least she waited until the end of the flight
to do dude, what would you do? Like I just
keep trying to put myself at the window seat and
thinking about the person sitting in the middle between me
and another person just getting up and like pulling down
their pants and just pooping like right in front of me.
Like I just don't somebody had to be on this
plane and witness this, and we need to know the details.
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I was wondering, like if somebody next to you starts
taking all their clothes off and you're like okay, maybe
you're just like okay, they're taking their hoodie off, and
then like the bra comes off the panticot, Like could
you stop them or is that considered assault if you
touch them? And you're trying to be like, no, you can't,
you can't, Okay, I mean the flight attendant should. But
(35:35):
you know, it's funny because Lucea was like, I might
want to be a flight attention. She was asking me
all these questions the other day, and I was she
said something about the training and this and that and
I was telling her all the possible situations, and I
was just like, dude, flight attendants deal with a lot
of shit just between truly the plane, the plane between
just like the plane itself having issues and then you
(35:58):
have to deal with passengers and they're crazy stuff. It's
just you know, like what if it was the best?
So from Chicago and Philly is like two hours probably right,
and I yeah it's short, but like if like what
do you do? Like, what do you do? What if
it's a full flight? What do you do? Like you
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you're stuck, You're trapped on this plane. Like I raise
my hand and say, Hi, can you take care of
this mess next to me? Because this lady is literally
shitting and I have to smell her shit next to me?
Or what if it was like next to one of
my kids or something, you know what I mean? Well,
I say, what are they gonna do? At first, I
was thinking it was quite courteous that she waited till
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the end of the flight to do this act. But
then when I started thinking about it, when the plane
is landing, you're not allowed to get up like at all,
so you're actually trapped there worse than if you were
a midflight, because at least midflight you could get up
and walk her ound go somewhere else. But when the
plane is landing, you're not really advised to move because
you could fall down because of the angle the plane
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is landing. Yeah, so you're like really trapped there while
this is happening. And are there any health risks with this?
If somebody's like taking a shit next to you and
you're like right there next to it, or just really
if you're not touching it, it smells, what if it
was explosive diarrhea, and it will if it went all
over you, there can be definite they're definitely risk with
(37:23):
the parasites and bacterial infections and viral infections. I mean listen,
like as we know from last week from whatever the
hell happened to me on the night of Easter, Like
it can pour out of you without like much control, right.
But but like there's a big difference between somebody that's
like having an accident versus like an actual like intentional
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which I don't think it's an accident if you it's not,
and it's it's some kind of mental health breakdown whatever,
it's just I mean, every regular person or ninety nine
percent of the other regular people sitting on the flight, Like,
what what is that? Like? I don't know, this sounds
like worsh night wherever. Right, I let's wrap up with
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the history of candy cigarettes. This one I thought would
be fun to just throw in for the end of
today's episode. I came across this article that was written
at just about candy cigarettes and how they first started
in the nineteenth the late nineteenth century, Hershey's Chocolate started
making molded cigarettes and stuff, and it's just so outrageous
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how things have changed that they used to specifically make
this candy to look like cigarettes. And I don't know
if you remember, because I don't think I've seen them.
They have bubble gum that's the shape of a cigarette,
and it's wrapped in white paper so it looks like
a cigarette. And then if you blow on it, like
smoke from around the bubble gum comes out. You did
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they have that one when you were younger. I personally
love candy cigarettes, like the chalky white Well that's the
problem because people, I don't know that necessarily kids want
them because they look like they're smoking. But like candy
cigarettes are, don't They're probably made of the same thing,
like a what's it called the dip the dip one, Oh,
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the fund dip fun dip. Yeah, that stick is so good. Okay, yeah,
it is very similar to that. I every time we're
at a candy store, I see them for sale, like
you know, a lot of when do you go to
like touristy stuff, A lot of like old tivy like
general stores will have them for sale, and I always
buy them because I think they're delicious. But a couple
of times I have bought the bubble gup ones by accident,
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which I find incredibly repulsive. The gum is not good.
It's the worst gum, and they're covered in that weird
chalky substance. So when you blow on the paper at first,
it looks like a puff of smoke comes out, which
is really fucked up considering that mostly children are eating
this candy. Well, it's it's really messed up because they
would target that adds to the kids and put like
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just like dad on the box, and they would put
toys inside, and they put them in vending machines. So
you probably don't remember this either, but when I was
a kid, like at friendlies or something, in the lobby.
They had like vending machines that had cigarettes gabes like, yeah,
I used to get them for my mom all the time. Machines. Yeah,
so it was like that, but they put the kids
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ones in there. So the reason that this was interesting
was because first there was a paper published in Pediatric
Journal in nineteen ninety two suggesting that these candies could
play a role in kids finding cigarettes smoking acceptable right,
and then it changed to British Medical Journal in two
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thousand said that this that people who smoke were likely
using these cigarettes as a kid and it was likely
promoting the tobacco habit in children. But then in two
thousand and seven they finally survey twenty five thousand adults
who were either current smokers or former smokers, and eighty
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eight percent of them said that they had heavy candy
cigarette use as a kid. It's kind about regious, right,
But how many of those people that had the candy
cigarettes also grew up in a house with non smokers.
Think about that, because like my husband grew up in
a house with smokers and he eventually smoked because he
grew up in that environment. That's bullshit, because my husband
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grew up I'm not saying everybody, but I'm saying, like
he also had candy cigarettes. I grew up in a
house with non smokers, and I heavily indulged, still to
this day, candy cigarettes. And I've never felt the need too.
I never that's the thing, like candy cigarettes were like
the thing at the candy stand, and like I said,
like I don't even think about it, like if the
kids ever want to get them, I'm like, I don't
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care whatever. I've actually smoked three cigarettes of my life,
and I threw up every time I did, and it
was in my early twenties when I was really drunk
every time. So and I never had a cigarette, like
I don't. I have no interest. That is all dependent
because like you were saying, like Ricky smoked because he
was around smoke, my husband like hates he has a
specific like very very disdained for cigarette smokers and he
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gets enraged by them because his mom smoked in the
house and like never ever would try it and doesn't
ever even want to be around it. I feel like
it could go, it could go like either way or something.
I don't know, That's what I'm saying. I think you're
either like really attracted to it or you are You're
truly both sides of the spectrum. I don't think people
are necessarily in between. Yeah, I think it's weird. I
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think it's weirder when people start smoking when they come
from an environment where nobody around them, no family members
or anybody around them is smoked, because like, how do
you start picking it up? Well, it's it's I'm I
mean listen, Like I think it's an addiction, like like
anything else. So it's just if people people start it,
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they try it with their friends. Maybe a lot of times,
it's like people start doing like they start doing it
when they're working in an environment where a lot of
people smoke. Like if you ever notice, like if you
go to a car dealership, like all the people there
smoke all the time. It's so crazy, like they all
work together, they all do it. It's like a weird
it's just like a weird thing I've noticed. Well, even
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though people have cut back on it significantly in the
last couple of decades, I mean it's still huge. I
think about you know, John Middleton, the owns of Phillies,
his families in tobacco, and like they have all that
money still from decades and decades and decades, it's still going.
Oh yeah, and it'll go forever because they're just they
just shift the to noail vapes. It's it's like they're
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just gonna just keep shifting it and shifting it until
they can't anymore, and then they'll find something else to
get people addicted to. It's it is just it. It
is interesting though, because you're modeling things for kids and
and they do still sell them. And it was cool
too in the article because they were saying, like certain
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candies that have been banned. You know which one they
said was banned, it's outrageous. What apparently, like the SBCA
or something was complaining because there was a gummy bear
made by that trolley company. Is that what it's called
trolley the one that makes those yummy peaches and stuff? Yeah,
I think so that that was a roadkill. Oh my god,
(44:21):
what real? Well, I was like that that of all things, like, yeah,
versus the candy that's supposed to mimic a cigarette. Oh
my god, if you fla are so ridiculous. There's there's
candy stores down the shore though, on the boardwalk that
like they have some outrageous candies. I mean, some of
them are really funny, but they my kids got one
once that was a toilet bowl that they dip the
(44:44):
lollipop into toilet bowl and like eat whatever's into toilet
And now they're gonna be toilet bowl eaters because of that.
So I don't know, Like I I find that I
love candy, like, I love it a lot, I want
it all the time, right, But it's I feel like
I'm in the minority of people like that anymore. Sometimes
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when I have candy, people are like, ew, why are
you just carry now? I like candy too. I was
picking Lilian up from one of her friend's house the
other day and they had this like giant bag of
sour patch kids, like economy sizes, and then the mom
was like, oh, you could have some, and I'm like no,
but I really wanted them, you know. And then Lulu
(45:25):
grabbed a big handful and then I like ate half
her handful. I was like, just is so good. I
love candy, it's terrible, But what is your favorite candy? Well,
I don't know, that's a hard decision because is it
are you talking about like chocolate or candy? Well, like
I guess the flying saucers are so good. Yeah, I
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guess for me circumstantially, Like at the movies, I really
like Like last week at the movies, I had milk Duds, popcorn,
and a cherry coke and that was like the perfect snack. No,
I won't drink soda anymore. That shit's just bad for you.
I only have it once in a while, and it's
heavenly when do you have it? But on an everyday situation,
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I prefer the sour candy variety. I really like nerds clusters,
sour Patch kids, sour Patch watermelons. I'd say nerd clusters
over all are probably my favorite candy right now, except
those ones you gave me, the Easter ones because they
were they were jelly bean nerd clusters, Yeah, they were.
The purple flavor was so gross. Yeah, I like two
(46:28):
boxes of Peeps at least. I like the peach rings too.
You know what's weird to me that I that I
think the Peep company should get on because you could
really do a survey because every single person that you
ever talked to like some stale better, Like, whyn't you
just sell ones that are already stale because like when
I open the container, I have to wait like a
while for them to get stale. They really should. It's
(46:51):
like when cheese it started making the extra toasties, because
it should be like that. Yeah, like it should be
like a specialty thing. I agree one hundred percent. I
do prefer the stale ones. Maybe they can't control the staleness,
Like if they put them out for a day and
let them get a little stiff and then wrap them up,
Like would they stay like that or would they get
like rock hard? I don't know. A couple of weeks ago,
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I don't know. Me and Ricking were just like talking
about our days and he was like, would you eat
for lunch today? I was like, me and my mob
went to Walmart. We split a pack of peeps. That
was our healthy lunch. I wonder, like, why my joints hurt?
And shit? This this is why you have explained well, Diary,
it could be it was right around peep time. Maybe
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Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. Everyone,
Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're going
to be talking about a pretty well known person who
has died from assisted suicide, a possible new serial killer,
(00:32):
spraying seamen on people, and pooping on an airplane. Let's
get started with the Leapfrog founder assisted suicide. All right,
So Mike Wood, who was the founder of the educational
toy company Leapfrog, died at age seventy two by assisted
suicide in Zurich, Switzerland. Yes, so Switzerland is it's legal
(00:56):
to for physician assistant suicide. It's not legal everywhere in
the world. But there's a difference between physician assistant suicide
and euthanasia because the physician is just providing the medications
to the person, but they have to take it themselves,
so they're the ones that technically kill themselves, not the physician,
(01:17):
whereas euthanasia, the physician would give the medications directly to
the person that would kill them. Okay, I don't think
I realized there was a difference between the two. So
it's actually a really interesting story. One of the innovators
are the beginning. Doctors who used to do this was
doctor Jackovorky, and I don't remember. He was really controversial
(01:41):
when I was younger, and he was a pathologist actually
ironically who thought that people should be able to die
with dignity and he should be able to euthanize them essentially,
And he was actually sent to prison for eight years
and was found guilty of second degree murder. And now
(02:03):
it's just so crazy how far we've come that that
this is now okay in a lot of different areas
of the world. Yeah, I mean in this case, I
guess the controversy today is now that it's legal. In
some places, it's like who's to deem who's eligible and
who's not. So like in this case, for Mike Wood,
he is seventy two years old. He was diagnosed recently
(02:25):
with Alzheimer's. He had seemingly been undergoing some treatment for it,
but was just like, I'm not doing this, and he
made the decision. So he went to this nonprofit in
Zurich and he did it on April tenth, and he
was surrounded by his family and he died the way
he wanted to. So I guess in a lot of
these circumstances. People would say, well, like, of course, if
you were diagnosed with something like dementia Alzheimer's and you
(02:48):
know exactly like maybe something else like we were talking
about last week or the last two weeks, als something
you know is going to kill you and be a
horrible death. Right, maybe these people make the decision to
go forward this and people are more accepting of it.
But then there's been these situations where there's people like
my age, in their late twenties early thirties that are
making the decision to do it because they just don't
want to be alive anymore. And that's where it's sparking controversy.
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Who cares, Well, a lot of people care, but listen, like,
why does anybody care about what I'm doing with my life? Well, yeah,
I guess because like I don't give it. Okay, you
could care, but like that's not your problem, that's my problem. Yeah,
But it's it's still suicide at the end of the day,
(03:32):
whether it's assisted or not. So I guess people just
have a problem with people helping people die by suicide. Yeah,
I guess. I But like I just think it's dumb.
Like I think if you're gonna do it. You're gonna
do it. You're going to do it exactly like people
might just whatever. I we don't have to get into
a debate about that. I just never really understood like
(03:53):
why people are getting involved with that, Like if a
person decides they want to die, like you're you're like
someone else trying to tell people how to live their life.
It's well, that's how society operates today. So that's not
really surprising in general. All right, So the physician assistant
suicide in switzerland's kind of interesting. There's a company there
(04:14):
called Dignata that is a non for profit organization that's
helped over a thousand people die by suicide since nineteen
ninety eight. So what's interesting, I guess is that when
you die by suicide in Switzerland, it automatically triggers a
death investigation, right, which would be the same here or
(04:37):
anything like that. And they're starting to get worried about
the cost of that because people are going there for
death tourism, which means that if you want to die
and you know that you want to do this, you
can go on a trip there and get it done there,
but you're not a tax payer or whatever. So like
you're not paying into the system that pays for these
(04:59):
death investigation, so you understand how that could become a
burden on a country. So this company, since they do
so many of them, they have this agreement with the
Switzerland government that as soon as the person takes the
cocktail and dies, they video record the whole thing happening,
so then the police can see it happening, and then
(05:22):
afterwards the police come and then the funeral directors will
come pick up the body and they have like a
whole entire system for it, which will kind of help
along the process of not taking so much resources for
the death investigation. And the whole thing is just so
we're going to do a high profile death dissection on
(05:43):
this because it's super interesting. But basically, this particular company
or organization gives pentobarbital, which is a drug that causes
the central nervous system to kind of shut down and
you'll go into you'll it's it's just kind of like
when you're getting ready to go into surgery, like you'll
(06:03):
fall asleep and won't even know what's happening. It's just
crazy because they mix the powder with water and have
you take a drink, and before you even take the drink,
they say to say all your final words, because they're like,
you're going to have about three to five minutes before
you fall asleep, and then you die within thirty to
forty minutes of that. Wow. Yeah, it's it's really nuts.
(06:24):
But so there was a so there's a case, a
couple cases of course, because there's like controversy and problems
with everything. So this woman that went there had so
the company has like a whole entire thing of what
you have to go through if you have to contact them,
and then they want you to send your medical records
over and they want you to prove while you're doing this,
(06:44):
and there's counseling and if you decide you don't want
to do it, that's fine, and all this stuff. Well,
apparently one of this woman that was sixty nine years
old sent her medical records over to this company and
saying that she had terminal cirrhosis, and she was given
an autopsy afterwards, and they found that she not only
did not have cirrhosis, but she was one hundred percent
(07:05):
perfectly physically fine anyway, and she had fudged the medical
records because she suffered from depression in order to get
this done and then so you know, there's all this
controversy about that, and I don't know. The way I
look at it is like, and I've said this from
the beginning, like mental illness is just like having cancer
in an organ or something. It's just pathology in your brain.
(07:28):
And I don't see why that matters if that's if
the woman wanted to die. Just don't see why that
matters in my opinion. But it is like kind of
crazy that you could just give someone a little shot
glass of something and kill them that quickly. So for
the past couple of weeks, I've been hearing rumblings about
a serial killer in Austin, so I'm kind of surprised.
(07:49):
There's also rumors going around that there's one in New
England too. I haven't even heard about the Austin one well,
so that's not is highly publicized. But when I was
looking into it, it seems like a couple of bodies
have been found at Ladybirds Lake. So there's been all
this speculation about this killer, but they're unconfirmed. They're calling
this person the Rainy Lake Killer. And last year, this
(08:11):
change dot org came out where they were explaining that
twenty plus bodies have been found there in multiple years.
So of course everybody in the true crime world and
these citizens louse are on it. But of course the
same thing's happening with New England too. Yeah, it's crazy
because when you look at the map of where all
of these bodies have been being found in New England,
(08:34):
it's the radius is kind of huge and it's hours
away from each other. I'm not saying that it's not possible,
but just the fact that there's dead people doesn't mean
that there's a connection, and it also doesn't mean it
doesn't mean anything honestly. I mean, so yesterday they were
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saying that eight bodies were potentially connected to this serial
killer in New England, and as of the Sporting Fox
was reporting that two more bodies have been found, So
now people want to try to rope that in two.
So we potentially have ten dead bodies, most of them
are female, I think the ones that they are are
not saying specifically or female or bodies that were remains
(09:17):
that were unidentifiable, So they don't know for a fact
yet if those remains belong to females or not. But yeah,
I agree with you the net of where this person is,
but that's the only thing that they have in common
is that they're dead bodies basically, and maybe that they're women.
But even they showed pictures of three of the ladies,
and like you, I don't know. I feel like sometimes
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when when a person's a serial killer, you look at
their victims and they all are kind of like similar.
You know, Jeffrey Dahmer's it's just like they had like
a certain demographic. And it's the same with Ted Bondy.
They all, you know, and this one's just kind of
like I can't Like two of the women look to
be around my age, and it's it's a black chick
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and a white chick, and then there's like an older
black woman who looks like she's in her sixties. Like
I'm kind of like I don't see the connection there,
and like it's totally possible, but as of right now,
the police haven't said anything right as far as there's
a connection, like they all had their throat sliced or
something like that, Like there was nothing out there yet
(10:22):
that we've heard. So I think this is important to
note when we've talked to like crime scene investigators like
Cheryl and everything. Right, it's like, even if there is
a connection, this is an open case and this person
is possibly still in the loose, so the police are
not going to exactly be that forthcoming about it at
this time because it's an investigation. So you have these
(10:44):
people online, like this Facebook group that has almost seventy
thousand members perpetuating these rumors that the serial killers in existence,
which very well may be true. But you're like criticizing
the police for not being forthcoming about it. But it's
an open investigation and you don't want to tip the
killer off if there really is a serial killer active
(11:05):
right now. God, they have to be so extra closed
lip about stuff because they're scared to death of any
These like true crime people on these online forums are
like intense aggressive. Wait see, you're gonna love this too.
So this Facebook group was called New England serial Killer
and I went on it today. I joined it to
(11:27):
try to see what it was about. But my pending
approval still But their name has been changed to pending
new group name. Meta just did that? They like told
they just removed their name New England serial Killer and
change the group name. Depending new group name Are you serious? Yeah,
and they like literally when you go on to join
the group and it's showing you like the rules of
(11:48):
the Facebook group and everything. It's like, for absolutely no reason,
Facebook change the name of our group and we don't
know it there's there. I'll tell you why, because the
same bullshit that they do to me every day. I
posted my mystery diagnosis, what's today Tuesday? Yesterday, today's Monday? Yeah,
we have no idea. I have no idea what it is.
(12:09):
I posted it, and so I posted it on Instagram
and then I copied it to Facebook, and within five
minutes I had it removed from Facebook. And I'm not
going to tell you what the answer is because it's
an open mystery diagnosis. But it's not graphic violence like
they said it was and flagged me. Well, they did
(12:30):
restore it Tuesday morning. So according to on my Facebook,
when I logged into my Facebook because I have yours
attached to mine, it said that they had restored it
and they realized their review team had made an error. Well,
at least they look at all the other at least
they look at it, because Instagram they don't. They don't
look at it. Did I tell you guys that I'm
banned from going live on Instagram for three hundred and
(12:53):
sixty five days right now. But you've you've consecutively been
banned for three hundred and sixty five now I keep well,
it keeps, it keeps starting me five days for three
hundred and sixty five days. Yes, so I can't go
live like it's just amazing. So that's why, because they're
cracking down on like any I'm surprised. I won't be
surprised if it continues this way that any people will
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be able to talk about any true crime stuff at all,
because they're cracking down on it so hard it's just outrageous.
So I find the concept of a new serial killer
to be really fascinating because you just want to think
today with DNA and forensic advancements and you know, everything
like that in technology, that it would be really hard
to be a serial killer. But then when you look
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at the Long Island serial killer and you see how
he went undetected for so long, it really is interesting
to look about and to look at and these bodies,
you know, they were at first seemingly being reported that
they were all these women were being killed with since
the beginning of March. But these bodies have been found
since the beginning of March, and they're in various states
of decomposition, so you know, some of them have seemed
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to be killed maybe even years ago. Yeah, that doesn't
we know that that doesn't really matter at the time,
because sometimes they take breaks for years and then come back.
But I mean, I don't I don't really so listen,
you know when COVID was happening, and every day they
were like they had that ticker with all the people
that died, and I was just kind of like, this
is the dumbest shit ever. People die every single day
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all day at the hospital, right, yes, like they just
they would. They would even in my town, like for
years after COVID, like it was like twenty twenty two,
they would be like, oh, two people in Camden County
died today. Like it was so ridiculous, And people die
shit every day every day. It was so ridiculous. It
annoyed the shit out of me. So I'm not you know,
(14:41):
I don't work for the police, and I don't know
in a given day how many dead bodies they find
here and there. But I mean, for sure in Philadelphia
it was it was often that they would just be like, oh,
this person was found in the street, or this person
was found on the river, this, this and this. But
but like a lot of it is drugs, a lot
of it's like homelessness. I don't I don't really know
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how many people. And you're and New England is like
a broad term for like three states, right, like a
huge frickin' area, So I don't know how many dead
bodies they find, And this could just totally be like
not super out of the normal. I don't really know,
but I mean, like obviously, just based on the three people,
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we see two women that seem to be about in
their thirties or forties, and then one woman that appears
to be in her sixties. Like if these if if
women that are healthy or just go a missing like this,
then like and then like their dead bodies are being
found somewhere, and like obviously the medical examiner and the
cops know so much more about what injuries they had,
especially they were saying some of them had remains, but
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some of them were like intact bodies. They know how
these people are getting killed, so so like they're gonna
see differences and stuff. They're not they're not gonna say
anything because, like we said, because of the investigation. Yeah,
I mean, I think everybody has a right to speculate
and everything. And of course we talk about true crime,
and it's very fascinating to us, and these stories come
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up and they're fascinating to look at and to see
in this day and age. But you also have to
respect the investigators there if there is a real serial
killer on the luze trying to catch that person to
save more people's lives. So like, back off and let
these people please do their jobs the right way and
stop sensationalizing everything, all right. This next story was what
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I referenced on yesterday's episode about eye for an eye punishment,
and I really think these terrible people should have to
go through the same horrific experience they put this child through.
So last September, this twelve year old was brought to
the hospital for having uncontrollable seizures. This hospital visit prompted
an investigation after doctors noticed a child was malnourished and
covered in bruises and cuts. She also only weighed fifty pounds,
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which is severely underweight for a child that age. So
the investigation basically revealed this horrific abuse at the hands
of this child's mother and her grandmother. So, Lillian's twelve
years old, and she is like see through skinny, right,
She's like one of the skinniest people that you know
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as a child, right, And she weighs almost one hundred pounds. Yes,
So I'm like, which I thought was kind of like
because I was like when I was in fifth grade,
I was like ninety nine pounds. I remember, it was
before I went to middle school, for sure. So so
thinking about a child of my daughter's age being half
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of that weight is disturbing and disgusting to me, unless
they had an underlying medical condition, of course. But when
she was brought to the hospital, the mom was saying
that she had given her fifty milligrams of benadryl and
sixty milligrams of militony, which is a lot of both
for fifty pounds. You would think that like twenty five
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milligrams would be a lot on the on the higher end.
So gave more than a double dose to this kid
of benadryl and god melatonin. I give the kids two
point five gram of miltonin like on Sunday nights to
help them wind down from the weekend sixty milligrams and
one sitting Like, I wonder why the kid was having
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freaking seizures with all this shit. Plus she was underweight
and malnourished, and that's nothing compared to what was going
on in the home. So according to a neighbor, because
another point we're gonna have to talk about is that
multiple people knew this abuse was going on and didn't
do anything about it. So according to a neighbor, the
girl would be tied up to her bed, quote like
Jesus on the Cross, where they'd make her, you know,
(18:39):
go to the bathroom, tied to the bed and eat
cat food. Yeah, and they had a security camera watching
over her too, And that is the messed up thing
is that when they're interviewing witnesses, they're like, yeah, they
used to feed her cat food and this and that,
and it's like, well, why the fuck didn't you call
the police? Then, like they those people should also get arrested.
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I'm serious. And then there was a lot going on though,
Like the kids showed up at school with a black
eye and she told the kids she got work hurt
walking into a wall, and I guess that's a rough
situation because like everybody that's got kids knows that they
ball and stuff all the time. So if you're a
teacher and you have a kid that is walking into
(19:22):
school with bruises, I mean, I don't know what the
protocol is there. I think if a kid tells you that, whatever,
But then it's like I guess they withdrawed the kid
from school. It's just like apparently the kid. I don't
know if you read this that the kid had multiple
broken bones from twenty seventeen, like emergency room visits, like
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that should trigger something right there. Well, that and then
after the incident where she got the black eye, I
went to school, the par the mother then pulled her
out of school. Yeah, so like do you not have
to be checked up on after something like that? Or
nobody thought weird, this kid came the school with visible
bruises and a black eye and that was immediately pulled
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out of the school system. I don't know. I just
because like if a kid, the kid falls, and like
if that was a true story and they the homeschooling rules,
they don't do that, like if you pull the kid
out of school. I did it with the girls, like
when they were younger, like Lillian had started kindergarten already,
and I figured out what to do about it, and
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I just had to write the principal letter and be like,
as of this day, I'm homeschool with my kid, and
that was the end of the story. Like, nobody checked
in on me. Ever, again, they don't know if my kids.
I mean, that kind of seems like not a good idea,
But you weren't doing anything wrong. So like if somebody
did have to check on you every six months, you
wouldn't have a problem with it, right, But now I
would have a problem with it. They don't need to
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be checking on me every six months. It's my kids.
Like I don't know, I'm like a less government involved
kind of person. I don't think people need to be
checking on me. But like in an abuse situation, I'm
not really concerned about the school as much as the
I believe when you go when children are brought to
the emergency room and they have fractures, this is something
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that would be considered something that would trigger But I
guess if you go to multiple urgent cares or hospitals,
they might not have communicating records that would show that
the kid was there multiple times for fractures. All right,
So this is the point I was trying to make
up though, where it's like they tie this poor little
girl to this bed, they make her eat catfood, they
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make her go to the bathroom on herself in this bed.
These people should be set on fire, like, like, I'm serious,
people that abuse children like this should have the worst
absolute punishment. You are not going to go to jail
and be rehabbed for this, You were just going to
get worse. What is it? Because we talked about this
with the Ruby frank thing and stuff. It's just very
(21:52):
interesting to me that grown ups just decide. And this
is the girl's mother and her grandmother. It's like what
makes grown ups decide that? And a lot of times
when there's a couple children living in the house, they
pick like one kid, like what is that? Well, you know,
I want to say it rub Frankie. And also like
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Lori Valo, for example, they use their religion as an
excuse to abuse their children. So in those two cases,
they try to say that their children are possessed by
the devil, which goes against their personal beliefs, and then
they use the religion as an excuse to abuse the children,
to get the devil out of them, and it's just
(22:35):
really disgusting behavior. Yeah, but that doesn't appear to be
what happened in this case and lots of other cases.
It's just it's just a very weird thing to me
that you've you know, I think it's normal human nature.
As we could see, there always has to be like
a villain and a bad eye in someone's life that
it just makes people feel better whatever, Like how do
(22:56):
you how do you look at at a child and
decide that they're the one you're gonna take all your
anger out on or to blame for all your problems
or something. It's just it's just really bizarre and and like, honestly,
I equally think that the neighbor that's aw this going
on should should I don't think that she should be
(23:16):
set on fire like the parents or the grandmom and
the mom, but she definitely should serve jail time for
not reporting that, because if you don't report a murder,
you'll get in trouble. What world do you live in
like that your neighbor is going to say to you,
You're like, yeah, my kid's tied up and I'm watching
her on the camera and she h, you know, I'm
(23:38):
feeding her cat food? Like what, like how the in
any way is that something that you hear from someone
and you're not instantly repulsed and alarmed and want to
call police. It's just weird, Like where where were they living?
So I never go there. It's just like so disgusting
(23:59):
of behavior, Like I can't wrap my head around it.
And it's like these there's so many instances where child
are beat by their parents or starve their parents, are
you know, emotionally abused by their parents. But something about
tying a child up, feeding them cat food multiple like
just repeatedly beating them, it's just so disgusting and people,
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it just it has it leaves you with little faith
in humanity that people like this are able to have children,
Like it really does. Yeah, it makes me sad too
because I think about like, like every single meal my
kids eat lunch or their snacks are a pack and dinner.
I want them if they don't like something, I'm always
kind of like, all right, well, like let's try to
(24:43):
make you something else, or let's see if you could
try something else, And like it's not fair to kids
that there's some kids that are my kid's age that
are being treated and coddled and loved, and then there's
other kids that are their same age that might be
classmates or friends of theirs, on their softball team or
at their school that are being treated this poorly. It
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really breaks your heart that any child has to be
treated like that. You know, well, we have to applaud
the doctor for reporting them and getting them investigators. Another
thing that I want to know is when this was reported.
And yes, of course, and because that is a lot
for a doctor, I'm sure because you're looking at this
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and you're like, Okay, this looks really bad, and then
you look at this little innocent child and you're like no,
like your mind tells you there's no way that somebody's
doing this intentionally. There has to be a reason for this,
and and like if I call, it's going to open
a whole can of worms, and like it could cause
problems and this and that. But yes, right thing to do.
But why did it take from September until this week
(25:49):
for the parent, for the grandmother and the mother to
finally get arrested. I don't know. It seems like they
should have been put in jail that day. Well, it
seems like the girl was taken immediately after the hospital
visit and was in custody with the state at that
time while the investigation was happening. But I agree, seven
months is absolutely ridiculous for them to get arrested. But
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at least they have been arrested and they're in jail.
But you know, a bond's been said. Why, Like, I
don't think these people deserve at all to get out now.
This is death penalty worthy to me. This episode is
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(27:17):
fricking creep This scares me. In the UK, this twenty
two year old guy had been stalking several women, specifically
when they were taking their children to school from their homes,
and in one case, he took a syringe filled with
his semen and sprayed one of the victims with it. Yeah,
real cute, right he So he was putting on this
(27:37):
red hoodie every day and then he would put a
mask on, and then he would put on a trench
coat and he would stalk these women and follow them.
And then creepster went home and wrote about it in
his diary and made notes and put plans as what
he wanted to do with the women to sexually assault them.
He also assigned them nicknames. One woman did realize he
(27:59):
was follow her and got so scared that she stopped
taking her kid to school because she feared for their safety.
He was wearing the same outfit every day. And I'm sorry,
but anyone that wears a trench coat is a freaking weirdo.
That's like, that's like fashionable right now, No they're not,
but they're just not. I'm sorry. So like you're automatically
you're automatically triggering me if I see you wearing a
(28:22):
trench coat. But go ahead, all right. So anyway, he
was caught after one of the women reported him to
police after she realized he had been following her for
a while, so he ended up getting arrested that day.
He pleaded guilty to four counts of stalking, sexual assault
by spraying the woman with the seamen filled syringe, and
possession of indecent images of a woman engaging in sexual
(28:43):
acts with a dalmatian and a horse that they founded
his house later that day. That I know, it's so
gross and that video like actually we wrote a whole
entire high profile that the section on Beast Reality two,
which is you know what it, I warn you if
you want to read it, because there's some things you
could just never unread. And knowing that people do this
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and I mean this is not like an AI thing,
like people are literally having sex with the animals and
recording it and people are then getting off on it.
It's I'm personally traumatized from that right up about the
guy from Jerry Springer seeing the extended version of him
talking about putting panties on his horse wife. But anyway,
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I'm more surprised that he was with a female horse
because usually when you see a dude screw a horse,
it's it's a male horse screwing the guy, which I don't.
I just want to know how you physically pull that off,
because I don't. I just trying to figure it out.
I don't understand how you feel. But whatever, I don't
think I need to look that stuff up. Ever. Again,
I saw quite enough when weird doing research for that.
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But this stalker was at in sad three years and
four months. This is a major problem. That is not
enough time, and he's not going to stop doing this
and these women are going to be probably living this
all over again in a couple of years. All right,
So here's an interesting part of this story. So apparently
they gave him a psychological report and described him as
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having low intellectual ability and highlighted that he had autism
traits which resulted in him becoming fixated. Well, is that
what happened? Is that what they're trying to say happen
with Brian Coberger because like, it doesn't matter, he still
committed a crime. I understand that. I understand that I
do understand that, but like, let's say a person, let's
(30:32):
say a person like this had down syndrome, would you
feel differently about that, because like, there's different it's it's different,
but there's there's all different levels of autism with with
the intellectual ability. I'm just I'm just saying, like, I
don't I wouldn't exactly say that. This is with Brian Coberger,
because with Brian Coberger, no one ever heard of the
(30:54):
dude having an autism until he murdered people and then
he was like, hey, let me try this loophole, Like
that's bullshit. Okay, Well, if this is legitimately the problem
in this case, maybe he doesn't go to jail, but like,
if he's no, he needs to get some of these crimes.
He needs to get some form of treatment, because going
to jail for a couple of years is I'll never forget.
When we did the interview with doctor Dass and he
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was saying that most of the time in his book,
he was saying most of the time that when these people,
like sexual predators for example, are put in jail, it
only makes their infatuation grow. It does not rehabilitate them.
It makes it worse. So like I see this as,
let's say I'm one of these victims of this stalker,
(31:36):
I'm gonna be scared. It's like, you have four years
of freedom and then this guy's gonna get back out
and probably start following you again. It's I mean, he
has he has an obsession with it, and it's it's
creepy and like, was he ever really going to sexually assault?
I mean he kind of did with the semen thing
for sure, but like, was he ever going to do
(31:58):
all the stuff that he wrote down? Like who knows? Yes,
because most of the times these people start off doing
little things and then they escalate. Yeah, but that doesn't
mean that they're that they're one hundred percent going to
do it. Another crazy part of this story is that
he had an online girlfriend in the United States that
he never met. Could you do you know how many
(32:19):
times I've heard of people dating people on these like
whatever it is, match dot Com that's probably not even
a thing anymore, but one of those like dating websites
or whatever, and they live in another city or another
state or another country, and you just like really have
no idea who the person is. So there's someone in
America right now that's been dating this guy online. Well yeah,
(32:42):
and they're like, well, we put him on the Sex
A Sex Offenders Register for seven years and given them
a ten year restraining order. A restraining order is a
piece of paper, and people violate them all the time.
Imagine beating a guy when you're thirty and just being like, hey,
what's up, and like not really knowing, and then finding
out like, oh, yeah, he used to follow women around
and throw a semen on them, Like you wouldn't even
(33:05):
know about it because he wouldn't even be on the
list anymore. There's this episode of thirty Rock where Tina
Fey is going out with this actor. He's on a
bunch of commercials right now. Anyway, she's going out with them,
and then she comes home one day and she's watching
to Catch a Predator and he comes on to catch
a predator. I always, you know what's crazy. I always
(33:27):
see these articles online that'll be like Camden County man
caught with child pornography or something, And there was just
one in Morristown recently, and I'm just like, you know
what if I, like, I swear to God one day,
it's going to be somebody that you know, and obviously
people know these people, and you're just like, what do
you even feel like when you see that? It's just
(33:47):
so nuts, like somebody that you know that lives in
your neighborhood or something, or well, I have that story
about I don't know if I'm gonna share that one.
All right, maybe we should move on to the Southwest Pooper. Yeah, so,
I mean this is not really a story. Of course,
it originated in Philadelphia. The woman might possibly be one
(34:08):
of my neighbors who just decided to get naked and
take a shit on the seat in the airplane. I yeah,
my first thought was, of course, the flight started in Philadelphia,
was heading to Chicago, and as the flight started landing,
this woman just completely gets naked and then takes a
shit on her seat. It doesn't seem like it was
(34:29):
like a colon blow diarrhea situation where if she could
not make it to the bathroom in time. It seems
like it was an intentional I was wondering if it
was a coal and blow situation, because of like, if
you have colon blow, you tend to get really hot
and sweaty. Now that would explain the kid. You would
never take off your clothes in front of somebody. Obvious
it was a true diarrhea story. Obviously, I was gonna say,
(34:52):
at least she waited until the end of the flight
to do dude, what would you do? Like I just
keep trying to put myself at the window seat and
thinking about the person sitting in the middle between me
and another person just getting up and like pulling down
their pants and just pooping like right in front of me.
Like I just don't somebody had to be on this
plane and witness this, and we need to know the details.
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I was wondering, like if somebody next to you starts
taking all their clothes off and you're like okay, maybe
you're just like okay, they're taking their hoodie off, and
then like the bra comes off the panticot, Like could
you stop them or is that considered assault if you
touch them? And you're trying to be like, no, you can't,
you can't, Okay, I mean the flight attendant should. But
(35:35):
you know, it's funny because Lucea was like, I might
want to be a flight attention. She was asking me
all these questions the other day, and I was she
said something about the training and this and that and
I was telling her all the possible situations, and I
was just like, dude, flight attendants deal with a lot
of shit just between truly the plane, the plane between
just like the plane itself having issues and then you
(35:58):
have to deal with passengers and they're crazy stuff. It's
just you know, like what if it was the best?
So from Chicago and Philly is like two hours probably right,
and I yeah it's short, but like if like what
do you do? Like, what do you do? What if
it's a full flight? What do you do? Like you
(36:19):
you're stuck, You're trapped on this plane. Like I raise
my hand and say, Hi, can you take care of
this mess next to me? Because this lady is literally
shitting and I have to smell her shit next to me?
Or what if it was like next to one of
my kids or something, you know what I mean? Well,
I say, what are they gonna do? At first, I
was thinking it was quite courteous that she waited till
(36:40):
the end of the flight to do this act. But
then when I started thinking about it, when the plane
is landing, you're not allowed to get up like at all,
so you're actually trapped there worse than if you were
a midflight, because at least midflight you could get up
and walk her ound go somewhere else. But when the
plane is landing, you're not really advised to move because
you could fall down because of the angle the plane
(37:01):
is landing. Yeah, so you're like really trapped there while
this is happening. And are there any health risks with this?
If somebody's like taking a shit next to you and
you're like right there next to it, or just really
if you're not touching it, it smells, what if it
was explosive diarrhea, and it will if it went all
over you, there can be definite they're definitely risk with
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the parasites and bacterial infections and viral infections. I mean listen,
like as we know from last week from whatever the
hell happened to me on the night of Easter, Like
it can pour out of you without like much control, right.
But but like there's a big difference between somebody that's
like having an accident versus like an actual like intentional
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which I don't think it's an accident if you it's not,
and it's it's some kind of mental health breakdown whatever,
it's just I mean, every regular person or ninety nine
percent of the other regular people sitting on the flight, Like,
what what is that? Like? I don't know, this sounds
like worsh night wherever. Right, I let's wrap up with
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the history of candy cigarettes. This one I thought would
be fun to just throw in for the end of
today's episode. I came across this article that was written
at just about candy cigarettes and how they first started
in the nineteenth the late nineteenth century, Hershey's Chocolate started
making molded cigarettes and stuff, and it's just so outrageous
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how things have changed that they used to specifically make
this candy to look like cigarettes. And I don't know
if you remember, because I don't think I've seen them.
They have bubble gum that's the shape of a cigarette,
and it's wrapped in white paper so it looks like
a cigarette. And then if you blow on it, like
smoke from around the bubble gum comes out. You did
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they have that one when you were younger. I personally
love candy cigarettes, like the chalky white Well that's the
problem because people, I don't know that necessarily kids want
them because they look like they're smoking. But like candy
cigarettes are, don't They're probably made of the same thing,
like a what's it called the dip the dip one, Oh,
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the fund dip fun dip. Yeah, that stick is so good. Okay, yeah,
it is very similar to that. I every time we're
at a candy store, I see them for sale, like
you know, a lot of when do you go to
like touristy stuff, A lot of like old tivy like
general stores will have them for sale, and I always
buy them because I think they're delicious. But a couple
of times I have bought the bubble gup ones by accident,
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which I find incredibly repulsive. The gum is not good.
It's the worst gum, and they're covered in that weird
chalky substance. So when you blow on the paper at first,
it looks like a puff of smoke comes out, which
is really fucked up considering that mostly children are eating
this candy. Well, it's it's really messed up because they
would target that adds to the kids and put like
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just like dad on the box, and they would put
toys inside, and they put them in vending machines. So
you probably don't remember this either, but when I was
a kid, like at friendlies or something, in the lobby.
They had like vending machines that had cigarettes gabes like, yeah,
I used to get them for my mom all the time. Machines. Yeah,
so it was like that, but they put the kids
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ones in there. So the reason that this was interesting
was because first there was a paper published in Pediatric
Journal in nineteen ninety two suggesting that these candies could
play a role in kids finding cigarettes smoking acceptable right,
and then it changed to British Medical Journal in two
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thousand said that this that people who smoke were likely
using these cigarettes as a kid and it was likely
promoting the tobacco habit in children. But then in two
thousand and seven they finally survey twenty five thousand adults
who were either current smokers or former smokers, and eighty
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eight percent of them said that they had heavy candy
cigarette use as a kid. It's kind about regious, right,
But how many of those people that had the candy
cigarettes also grew up in a house with non smokers.
Think about that, because like my husband grew up in
a house with smokers and he eventually smoked because he
grew up in that environment. That's bullshit, because my husband
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grew up I'm not saying everybody, but I'm saying, like
he also had candy cigarettes. I grew up in a
house with non smokers, and I heavily indulged, still to
this day, candy cigarettes. And I've never felt the need too.
I never that's the thing, like candy cigarettes were like
the thing at the candy stand, and like I said,
like I don't even think about it, like if the
kids ever want to get them, I'm like, I don't
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care whatever. I've actually smoked three cigarettes of my life,
and I threw up every time I did, and it
was in my early twenties when I was really drunk
every time. So and I never had a cigarette, like
I don't. I have no interest. That is all dependent
because like you were saying, like Ricky smoked because he
was around smoke, my husband like hates he has a
specific like very very disdained for cigarette smokers and he
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gets enraged by them because his mom smoked in the
house and like never ever would try it and doesn't
ever even want to be around it. I feel like
it could go, it could go like either way or something.
I don't know, That's what I'm saying. I think you're
either like really attracted to it or you are You're
truly both sides of the spectrum. I don't think people
are necessarily in between. Yeah, I think it's weird. I
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think it's weirder when people start smoking when they come
from an environment where nobody around them, no family members
or anybody around them is smoked, because like, how do
you start picking it up? Well, it's it's I'm I
mean listen, Like I think it's an addiction, like like
anything else. So it's just if people people start it,
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they try it with their friends. Maybe a lot of times,
it's like people start doing like they start doing it
when they're working in an environment where a lot of
people smoke. Like if you ever notice, like if you
go to a car dealership, like all the people there
smoke all the time. It's so crazy, like they all
work together, they all do it. It's like a weird
it's just like a weird thing I've noticed. Well, even
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though people have cut back on it significantly in the
last couple of decades, I mean it's still huge. I
think about you know, John Middleton, the owns of Phillies,
his families in tobacco, and like they have all that
money still from decades and decades and decades, it's still going.
Oh yeah, and it'll go forever because they're just they
just shift the to noail vapes. It's it's like they're
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just gonna just keep shifting it and shifting it until
they can't anymore, and then they'll find something else to
get people addicted to. It's it is just it. It
is interesting though, because you're modeling things for kids and
and they do still sell them. And it was cool
too in the article because they were saying, like certain
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candies that have been banned. You know which one they
said was banned, it's outrageous. What apparently, like the SBCA
or something was complaining because there was a gummy bear
made by that trolley company. Is that what it's called
trolley the one that makes those yummy peaches and stuff? Yeah,
I think so that that was a roadkill. Oh my god,
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what real? Well, I was like that that of all things, like, yeah,
versus the candy that's supposed to mimic a cigarette. Oh
my god, if you fla are so ridiculous. There's there's
candy stores down the shore though, on the boardwalk that
like they have some outrageous candies. I mean, some of
them are really funny, but they my kids got one
once that was a toilet bowl that they dip the
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lollipop into toilet bowl and like eat whatever's into toilet
And now they're gonna be toilet bowl eaters because of that.
So I don't know, Like I I find that I
love candy, like, I love it a lot, I want
it all the time, right, But it's I feel like
I'm in the minority of people like that anymore. Sometimes
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when I have candy, people are like, ew, why are
you just carry now? I like candy too. I was
picking Lilian up from one of her friend's house the
other day and they had this like giant bag of
sour patch kids, like economy sizes, and then the mom
was like, oh, you could have some, and I'm like no,
but I really wanted them, you know. And then Lulu
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grabbed a big handful and then I like ate half
her handful. I was like, just is so good. I
love candy, it's terrible, But what is your favorite candy? Well,
I don't know, that's a hard decision because is it
are you talking about like chocolate or candy? Well, like
I guess the flying saucers are so good. Yeah, I
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guess for me circumstantially, Like at the movies, I really
like Like last week at the movies, I had milk Duds, popcorn,
and a cherry coke and that was like the perfect snack. No,
I won't drink soda anymore. That shit's just bad for you.
I only have it once in a while, and it's
heavenly when do you have it? But on an everyday situation,
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I prefer the sour candy variety. I really like nerds clusters,
sour Patch kids, sour Patch watermelons. I'd say nerd clusters
over all are probably my favorite candy right now, except
those ones you gave me, the Easter ones because they
were they were jelly bean nerd clusters, Yeah, they were.
The purple flavor was so gross. Yeah, I like two
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boxes of Peeps at least. I like the peach rings too.
You know what's weird to me that I that I
think the Peep company should get on because you could
really do a survey because every single person that you
ever talked to like some stale better, Like, whyn't you
just sell ones that are already stale because like when
I open the container, I have to wait like a
while for them to get stale. They really should. It's
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like when cheese it started making the extra toasties, because
it should be like that. Yeah, like it should be
like a specialty thing. I agree one hundred percent. I
do prefer the stale ones. Maybe they can't control the staleness,
Like if they put them out for a day and
let them get a little stiff and then wrap them up,
Like would they stay like that or would they get
like rock hard? I don't know. A couple of weeks ago,
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I don't know. Me and Ricking were just like talking
about our days and he was like, would you eat
for lunch today? I was like, me and my mob
went to Walmart. We split a pack of peeps. That
was our healthy lunch. I wonder, like, why my joints hurt?
And shit? This this is why you have explained well, Diary,
it could be it was right around peep time. Maybe
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