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On today’s MKD, we get into new details in the Idaho murders, a biker mauled by a bear, a mother blown off at the hospital after her baby ate a button battery, people pulled aside at TSA over their sweaty crotches, and an overseen text leading to an emergency landing. 

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have lots of
interesting stories to talk about today. Last week we heard
of the shocking decision for accused Idaho murderer Brian Coberger

(00:31):
to confess to the murders of the four Idaho college
students who were brutally stabbed to death. And now a
new detail has emerged. Because we're all hanging on to
we all want to know what happened, but there's this
gag order and one of the parents accidentally spilled another
bit of information, so we'll talk about that a little bit.
We also are going to talk about a freak accident

(00:53):
involving a motorcycle and a bear, a mother who was
told that her sick child had a virus, only to
find out that it was something much more dangerous. We
also have some stories involving air travel, including the potential
problems you could face if you have a sweaty crotch,
and what happens when you sit next to a total

(01:13):
crazy person on the airplane. All that and moral titday's episode.
Let's get started with this new information about Brian Coberger.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
So amid Brian Coberger's plea deal, Kayleie Gonsalvas's family has
revealed that he'd be her in the head and face
as she fought for her life before he ended up
stabbing her to death.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
So I'm over here.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Thinking are they going to get in trouble for releasing
this information because I thought the judge made it pretty
clear no information was to come out until after his sentencing. Well,
I'm exactly sure how that works. All I know is
that that particular so, Kelly Gonsalveez's dad has been very
outspoken this.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
He's I don't know. When I think about the parents
of all these victims, he's the one that always stands
out to me because I always see him on the news,
and this week in particular, he's been very outspoken about
the fact that he's not happy that they offered him
a plea deal. He wanted him to get tried for
the death penalty. And of course other parents involved because

(02:15):
you have four students that were murdered, so other parents
have opinions as to what they believe should happen, and
some of them are okay with the plea deal. He
was not. He was not happy about how he was told,
so apparently he found out over email and right outside
of the courtroom the day Brian Coburger was doing the

(02:36):
plea hearing. He had said to reporters that he was
not going in to watch it, and he also seemed
like he was pissed off and on fire because he
found out due to flight records that hit that Brian
Coberger's parents had bought flights out there days before he

(02:57):
was even told that there was going to be this
plea deal. So he believes that, I mean, if you
want to read between the lines, he believes that Brian
Coburgers knew about the plea deal and were told about
it days before the victim's families. So he was like
hot and on fire, and you could imagine, and it's

(03:18):
totally justifiable.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Right Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's far fetched
that the Coburgers would be aware of it beforehand, because
it's not like that you wake up one morning and
you're like, Okay, today's the day to do the plea deal.
The teams were probably planning it out for a while
before they told anybody about it. But you can't control
what Coburger might have told his family and a prison
phone call or something.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, I get that, but it just it seems like
it's because there's been a lot of information coming out
that possibly Coburger decided to plead guilty because his parents
had to take the stand in his murder trial. His mom,
is dad, impossibly his sister, and a lot of people

(04:01):
have been speculating that that's why he took it to
spare them of having to go through anymore. And it's
kind of like, why is his family getting any kind
of priority in this whole thing when Cally is the
one that was murdered hurt. You would think that their
families would have the priority.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
If he cared about his family, he wouldn't have murdered
for innocent people because their life's ruined forever because of
his actions.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
It doesn't matter if they had to go on the
stand or not.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I agree with the victims' families. I think it's bullshit
that they weren't notified. Like the way they were notified
was totally ridiculous, only getting a few days notice, getting
an email about it on a Sunday night, barely having
time to get there for the hearing. That was outrageous.
Now that I've had a couple of days to sit
with it, I at first I just couldn't even believe

(04:55):
they would offer somebody a plea deal of the capacity
of the murders he did. But now that I'm sitting
with it, it really only does take one person that
he wouldn't have got the death penalty anyway, and then
there's a possibility for hung jury. There's so many things
that could go wrong in the process. So this is
a guarantee condiction if.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
You look at all of these things, and not that
not that Brian Coburger was was famous before or anybody
knew who he was before this happened, But think about this,
like O. J. Simpson, that looked like it was pretty
clear cut right he got talking about he got out
of it, Casey Anthony, like all of these people. Diddy

(05:38):
just happened. There's like literally video of him beating the
shit out of someone, and you know, all of this stuff.
But then so I do understand, like I could go
back and forth, but I'm just trying to think now
from this dad's perspective, like if that happened to you
when you went away to college or something like, I
understand one hundred percent why this family, it is just

(06:01):
pissed off and because I just I don't even know
if you caught this. And I've been thinking about this
because when we first started, when we first heard about this,
hearing you put it on the laptop, you were sitting
here in my office and we were listening to it live.
And when I the judge's opening statement, he was kind

(06:25):
of being an asshole to and directly putting it towards
that particular father. Because when when Kelly Gonsalvez's dad found
out about this, he said publicly on the news, like
call the judge and try to overturn his his his
decision and make sure like this is a FI I

(06:47):
would do the same exact thing. I would just be like,
please call and find out if we cannot do this,
and just express your concerns, like I try to gather
as many people as I could. Well, this judge started talking,
and do you remember he was just like, there's been
multiple calls to our office and it's been very disruptive
and you're not changing my mind, And like, I don't know,

(07:09):
I just felt like it was so douchey, like this
guy's daughter was murdered and you're like reprimanding him in
front of everybody, like everybody knows who it was towards.
You know.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, that's why I think they might get reprimanded for
releasing this information, even though they were doing it in
response to criticisms they've been facing for their reaction to
the Plea deal. Like I think even though I just
said I am more understanding of the Plea deal, I'm
not saying that they should be. I'm just saying, like,
the more time I've had to say with it, I
understand it. But I'm also not the family of somebody
that was murdered like that, so they have every right

(07:42):
to be upset about what happened. I mean, they're not
seeking just proper justice in this family's opinion for their daughter,
and they don't understand why their daughter didn't have a
choice and she was brutally murdered. But this guy just
gets to sit in jail and be alive. It's hard
to wrap your mind around.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
So we only have very limited details of the case
except for the little bits and pieces that have been
getting leaked over the course of the past couple of years.
But they said, until whence he getting he's officially like
pleading guilty only.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
July twenty third, so we'll obviously.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Be keeping up to day on. Yeah, so July twenty third,
they said let's keep the gag order in place because
they know that they're and that's probably a good idea,
just because they know that so many media sources are
reaching out to all the family members and everyone involved
in this case, survivors, friends, everything. But so there's been,

(08:38):
as Maria said, there's been people online who have been
judgmental honestly about the Kaylee Gonzalvee's family's decision that they
want the death penalty, and they which this just pisses me.
It pisses me off so bad, like what trolls people are,

(08:59):
Because if you think about a person that their child
was murdered in this way, and it's so high profile
and it's something that gets brought up every single day,
why would you ever just like go on their social
media page and be an asshole to them. It's just
like total troll mentality. They think that they're like chastising

(09:21):
them for seeking vengeance over justice, Like, why would you
ever judge anybody like that? It's so bizarre.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I don't understand why anybody goes on anybody's social media
and start shit with them. But if somebody lost a
family member in this horrific and highly publicized way, leave
them alone and let them grieve how they're gonna grieve.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
So that prompted all of this chastising prompted the mother
to write a message on social media that said, quote,
if your a twenty one year old daughter was sleeping
in her bread her bed and Brian Coberger went into
her house with the intention to kill her, which is
also a side note because there's always been speculation that

(10:06):
he was targeting certain people, so that's another clue. So
went into the house with the intention to kill her,
and he did by stabbing her many times as well
as beating her in the face and head, while it
was clear that she fought for her life. What would
you want? And so that to me is okay, they've

(10:26):
released a detail to details that we haven't gotten clear
on because.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
We have never heard before this that he beat any
of them.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, and we never heard that Kaylee was a target
because it's believed that that it's been speculated just because
of where he entered bedrooms and such, that there were
certain people that were targets, and then there are other
people that were just collateral damage. So now we know
for sure that Kaylee was the target and that she

(10:57):
was beat up in her face beforehand. I'm sure this
isn't a violation of the gag order. If I'm the dad,
I'm just like, fuck you, I'm doing whatever I want
at this point. Yeah, but what if they end up
getting arrested releasing you get arrested, like what happens. I'm
just because like I.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Think it could be considered like contempt of court because
like at this.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Point, the guy, they're not getting what they're wanting. The
guy's pleading guilty. He can't back out of it now,
Like I don't know, Like what's the dad have to
lose at this point.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's I understand that, but it's he's still on a technicality,
and this judge seems to not be like super sympathetic
to them, Like he's still violating a court order. So
if they really want to act on that, they can. Yeah,
and by the gag order getting released in a couple
of weeks, that doesn't necessarily mean Brian Koper is going

(11:49):
to have to sit down and tell us what happened
this is just data and discovery they've collected that they
were going to present a trial that's going.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
To go like he might, he might not. I mean,
obviously we would listen. Okay. I've been saying since day
one that this whole entire case is going to have
some kind of a twist to it. And the twist
is that he's going to become the most famous, prolific
serial killer of all time, and he's going to talk, tell,
talk all about it, and there's going to be research

(12:16):
papers written about him, and he's going to get all
the attention he wants for the rest of his life.
There will be some point in our lifetime that he
will sit down with somebody and tell them and gruesome
detail exactly what happened, because he wants to be studied.
Like that will one hundred percent happen. But for now,
just based upon the autopsy and everything like that, that

(12:37):
tells us a lot of what happened, which is she
was beat in the face, for example, and you could
tell that those bruises were fresh and they had bleeding,
which indicates that she was alive when they happened. And
there's lots of details that are going to come out
that the families know because of what they were told,
They might know the extent of their wounds. They might

(12:58):
release the autopsy reports. I don't know, But like, just
not having him confess to exactly what happened, the science
could tell us a lot of what happened without him
telling us.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, but I guess the question is still going to remain,
like why, Well that might come out because there there
might be you don't even know what they have from
the phone records. I mean, there might be, well, there
might be a lot of information in those phone records.
And I believe No, didn't the prosecutor say in that
hearing that they had no evidence tying him to them.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Or that house. I don't. I don't know, did he
I don't think so. I think you know what else
he said, which I thought was interesting too. He said, like,
let me be clear, if there was no evidence of
a sexual any that this was a sexual assault or
any kind of sexual crime in this of that nature.

(13:53):
And I kind of like, I don't know if I agree.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
With that, because the killing might have been the sexual component,
not that they were like assaulted.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
That's what I'm saying, Like they might not have been
sex He didn't say sexual assault, though he said it
didn't have a sexual nature of any kind. And I'm
kind of like, nah, there's a high probability that dude
went in his car and like jerked off after he
did that. That's like, that's like a thing that these
that certain serial killers do. They get sexually arouses them
to do something like this.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Well, I'd argue most serial killers are sexually right exactly.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
So I just I'm like, I don't know if you
should say that, Like I I think you could say
there was no evidence that at that time that they
were sexually assaulted. There's just a difference in the terminolage's
sexually assault. No, he didn't. He didn't trust me, he didn't.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I could be misremembering what he said, but I thought
something was said along the lines of like they didn't
have any concrete evidence connecting him to them. So but
that can't be right because otherwise how besides, I don't
know otherwise how could that be correct? Because they wouldn't
have been able to take him to trial if they
didn't have anything connect him to them beyond the DNA correct.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
So we'll see, all.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
Right, let's move on to the next story in Romania.
This guy parked his motorcycle next to me do not
feed bear sign, only to then be attacked by a bear,
which dragged him into a ravine and killed him.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, what are the chances of that? Right? So he
fell what was it two hundred and sixty two foot drop. Yes,
that's I mean, that's blunt damage, injuries significant once he
was wearing full motorcycle gear. So what are the chances
that you fall in a ravine like this and you're

(15:38):
wearing a helmet? But it was such a far drop
that it wasn't going to do anything to save his life,
so he was pronounced dead at the scene.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
So apparently Romania is the largest population of brown bears
in Europe outside of Russia. They have thirteen thousand bears
rumming around, and over the past two decades, brown bears
have killed twenty six people and injured almost three hundred
three hundred others. So this is why the signs up. Yeah,
that's why the signs up, because you obviously don't want
to draw them near you at all. And then the

(16:10):
irony of this guy parking next to the sign only
two minutes later be attacked by this berry's pure irony.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
All right, let's talk about this next story, which is
a really good one to talk about how you should
always that doctors don't know more than you. You always
know more than your about your kids than a doctor does,
and how you should push if you think something's not right.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, always advocate for yourself. This woman brought one of
her eighteen month old twins to the hospital after he
woke up screaming. There they told the mom that he
had a stomach virus, but something didn't feel right to her,
so she pushed for them to do some more exams.
They ended up doing an X ray and it turned
out that he swallowed a button battery, and she said
they said they could do one to make me feel better.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, Okay, how insulting. I love that so much, because
she was like, you're a douchebag, right, because it's like
so insulting to be like, uh, it's so patronizing to say, oh,
well we'll do wonder if that'll make you feel better.
But I just do it to rule something out I
don't know, And she she just she her first thing

(17:16):
stink was like he's crying continuously and she thought that
he was drolling abnormally and and right there that should
be if she's telling the physician that, like why is
he rolling so much? That right there should be a
sign that something is not right. And the way that
the kid just couldn't be consoled, and it just was

(17:36):
I think about if because so many people would be like, Okay,
I guess they're right and leave and swallowing. So a
button battery is those it's those little circular batteries. You
can find them in like remote controls. You can find
them in certain toys and watches, and they're soup. So

(17:57):
many kids end up ingesting these things. It's it's really terrible.
But what happens is that when a kid swallows one
of these, the saliva activates it and it causes it
to release chemicals into the underlying tissue. So it would
be like lodged in the esophagus because it's too It's

(18:18):
like sometimes they're like the size of a quarter, so
it's in the esophagus and it could essentially eat a
hole through the esophagus. There's a lot of adjacent structures.
You have the trachea, you have the carotid arteries, the
jugular everything is all in that area. Of the neck.
And if this happens, it's not only a surgical emergency,

(18:39):
but it could lead to a child's death. And in
this case, as soon as they recognized that this was there,
it went from being like, we're going to do this
X ray to make you feel better to within minutes
rushing this kid into emergency surgery.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
It is so insulting to be like, oh, we'll do
it to make you feel better. And then the satisfactor,
I mean not satisfaction because it's a horrible situation, but
her just being like, I'm right, you're a dickhead, like
thank you. But at least in this case, this can
ended up being okay, yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
I mean I wouldn't say he's one hundred percent okay.
The battery did damage and it did eat a hole
into his esophagus, so he had to get something called
an NG tube, which is a naso gastro tube which
helps eat and it bypasses the esophagus while the esophagus heels,
so then the esophagus heals and it's scarred up pretty bad.

(19:31):
And when the esophagus scars up, it could cause a stricture,
which means that when you eat food, it can't go
down as well because it's kind of closing and clamping
shot on itself. So now he has to get these
procedures with an esophagial balloon, which is they stick this
little like basically down inside of the throat, this deflated balloon,

(19:53):
and they open it up to kind of stretch the
esophagus back out to normal, and he may need to
get this done several times in his life. Unfortunately, because
this is this could be permanent damage. He did, he
didn't die. Everythings serious happened, But think about having an
eighteen month old baby that has a problem getting food down,

(20:14):
and as they turn into a child and into an adult, like,
it could be a lifelong problem for this for this
kid as he grows. And it's just it's just a
seriously alarming thing about And we hear this all the
time about doctors blowing people off, and it just it
really it's it's really really upsetting. But these these button

(20:38):
injuries happens so frequently. They say, like statistically, within the
past couple of years, three thy five hundred times a
year that it happens in the United States alone that
a kid eats one of these things. So whatever, it
is about them. They're shiny, they're silver like kid, it's
like the new quarter of this century. Like kids used

(21:01):
to swallow quarters all the time. Now it's like, Ooh,
these shiny batteries look more appetizing. For whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Well, she was saying she didn't know where the battery
came from, but a lot of toddler toys have them,
and I'm just like, how are you always gonna prevent
them from falling out? I guess you could double check
that the toy is secure and the battery components are
screwed shut, right, But things happen over time. Are you
really analyzing?

Speaker 1 (21:25):
I really know if toddler I don't know if a
toddler toy has one because of this reason. I feel
like if they did, they would be screwed in and
they would not be easily accessible.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, but by time, the screw could come loose. And
I'm saying, like, as a parent, are you picking up
every single one of your kid's toys and making sure
I don't think I don't think.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
It's from a toy. Honestly, I think it's from I'll
give you an example. We have like those faery lights
outside and any and there are things like people have.
So I'm trying to think we of like the lights,
the candles, the flameless candles, all sorts of these things

(22:07):
that you get Like on Amazon, they come with these
little flat batteries that you could change the light of
remote control. They're like really really flat. They're in those things,
and like kids love remote controls, they always put them
in their mouth, they always play with them. Like I
feel like that's more probable. Even the ones I have
for the TV, the newer ones have the flat battery

(22:28):
inside of them, and and that's easy, Like if you
push in the little tray and pull it out, it
comes out so easily. They don't. They don't make toys
that have a tray that comes out that easily that
a kid could get at it.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
When I'm talking about it just coming out easily like
a remote, I'm just saying even if they're in like
a sealed battery compartment within the toy, I mean, the
screw could still come loose over time, especially if the kids.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Like chewing on it or something. Yeah, I just think
it just happened. I just think it's more likely that
it's it's a thing that a parent wouldn't even think
of that, Oh there's a remote around or something like
that that that they could get access to. But regardless,
it doesn't matter how it happened, Like the kid got
access to it somehow and got it in his mouth,
and no fault of the parent. It's just like shit happens. Sometimes.

(23:16):
It's just scary that a kid. I can't imagine how
bad the kid was carrying on that the parent that
they were just like, oh, the kid has a virus.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I don't know, because again, like you know, you had
three kids, like you know how they act normally and
when they're sick, and if a kids screaming that bad
that you're like, I have to bring themto the hospital.
You know, it's something pretty horrendous.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, I mean listen, like, you're always gonna have parents
that just like overreact to everything. So and and that's
always a problem from the emergency physician perspective of like
there's definitely people that go there for nonsense. So you
always have to keep that in mind that you have
to try to triage like which ones are actually important

(24:01):
and which parents are overreacting. But I think when you
when you make the decision to go to the hospital
with your kid, Like nobody wants to do that because
it's such a pain in the ass. Like before you're
ready to leave their house, you're like, Okay, I'm gonna
be there for at least five to six hours. I'm

(24:22):
gonna have to sit there and wait forever. It's two
o'clock in the morning, I'm gonna be there all night.
Like you go through all these things in your head,
and then when you finally make the decision to go,
it's usually like you said, because something is you feel
like something is like above bringing them to the doctor
the next day.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
You know, yeah, nobody wants to go sit in the
emergency room for like eight hours. No one wants to
it's and it's just get it. It's terrible. And now
especially since urgent care, Like when you were a kid,
there was only the emergency room. Now there's urgent care.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
So if I actually, if my kid was that sick,
I'd be like, Okay, what time is it all right?
I'll take them to urgent care. And if it's if
it's like a Sunday night or something, I would be like, okay,
is this something like we could deal with in the morning.
And when you make that decision, that it's not then
you must be scared that something's not right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Absolutely. This episode is brought to you by the Grosser Room.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
So, speaking of button batteries, obviously we have lots of
cases of that in the grocer room as well, and
you could see just how terrible this looks. We have
a post called not as Good as a Button, and
we also have a really interesting one called Vampire Kid.
And in that particular post, I don't know if you
remember seeing this one where I did it a couple

(25:48):
of years ago. So the kid got imaging from an
MRI done and because of the magnet inside, it caused
his MRI image to be blurry like he looked like
he had no face on the MRI. It was crazy
looking so automatically when the technicians saw that, they're like,

(26:08):
oh my god, something is messing with the magnet in
the machine. And sure enough, this kid had swallowed a
button battery. But the MRI picture is crazy because normally
you're used to seeing like the eyes look really crazy
and the face, the face is just completely missing. It's nuts.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Wow, that's nuts, all right, guys. Well to see that
post and many more, please head over to the grosserroom
dot com now to sign up. So a woman went
on Reddit and explained that she flew for the first
time in fifteen years, and at both airports and her travels,
the arms upscanner flagged her cross area, so I think
that's weird in itself. She explained that she was a

(26:45):
mid size adult woman about five foot eight, one hundred
and sixty nine pounds. She was wearing bike shorts and
normal underwear. She had no piercings, no medical devices, and
her pockets were definitely empty, so she did not know
what happened. She got padded down, but ultimately was passed
throughout both airports. So on Reddit, she's trying to figure
out exactly what happened, and you won't believe the replies

(27:06):
this threadhead.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Well, it is actually really interesting. So they were saying,
and this wasn't just from Reddit users, but the TSA
is saying that sweat and perspiration are a weird thing
that sets off scanners due to this millimeter wave technology
that bounces off of fluids. So to get even more

(27:29):
gross than potential sweaty crotch, It's like period pads, depends underwear,
things that have fluid around your crotch area are setting
this off, which is it's just embarrassing when you get
pulled aside from everyone else. And it just happened to

(27:51):
me when we were coming back from Bermuda, going into
the cruise ship. The thing kept going off like nuts,
and I was like, dude, I have pins in my
in my bun like he kept scanning around my bun
and I'm like, I'm not smuggling in some like odd
insect from from you gives it and I'm a photograph

(28:11):
of your buddy. He probably, I'm sure he does. He
has a photograph of everything.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Well, you did get pulled aside for contraband because you
had an electric blanket and they are strictly foreboded almost
guess what.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
I had a medical exemption and I was allowed to
have it. Ridiculous. No, it's not ridiculous. I can't sleep
without it. I if my feet are too cold, like
I can't sleep. It's just that. But but yeah, like
you know, you get pulled aside and the guy's just like,
do you have anything in your pockets? And I'm like, no,
I don't, and it's like my head's going off and

(28:44):
I'm just like I'm not taking my hair out right now,
like I have bobby pins in there, just relaxed, but
like everybody's staring at you and like, you know what
I mean. So this is the thing though that's interesting,
is like because this particular woman said she had to
get padded down and then they were like, okay, you're fine,
but couldn't TSA people use this as an excuse to

(29:05):
pat down someone that they like want to touch.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Really, I'm sure that happens often, but no, they should
not be using it as an excuse. I'm sure they
have to prove on the scanner where it went off.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Maybe, but they did say that it happens more frequently
in people that have big booties.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
I did notice that, which I thought was interesting. And
also one person referred to it as swamp crotch, which
is just horrible to think about. I mean, I never
thought about something like this happening. I guess that they've
banned these scanners in a couple of countries because it
often has false alarms and I'm sure that holds up
the entire line and they just want to get on

(29:44):
with it, but it is embarrassing. At least they don't
announce to the whole line why you're getting pulled aside.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Yeah, but now this is all I'm going to think
about or anytime I'm somewhere, it's just like, oh, I
bet that person's got a sweaty crotch all right. In
other out aviations, this story is I can't even believe it.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
No, So a woman was snooping on the person sitting
next to her on a flight and saw that the
person received a text that said rip like rest in peace.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
So this lady.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Interprets that as a threat, alerts the flight staff, and
then they had to turn around the plane and go
back to Puerto Rico, where they had just taken off
from only thirty minutes beforehand.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I can't believe this is true. So basically, if any
person says that they feel threatened, they're going to do.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
This, Yeah, because I guess they can't take the chance.
So they get back to the airport. Law enforcement has
to like go through the whole plane and make sure
it's safe. And the person had to prove that somebody
in their life died the day before and that's why
they received the rest in peace text. When they were
talking to a relative about.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
It, that that's the most outrageous thing I've ever heard. Yeah,
it's like I can't even imagine. Like if if someone
sits next to me on the plane ever and looks
over at my phone, they're going to see some stuff
that's probably alarming, right, like what see I would be
I would be so pissed. I'd be like, no, you're

(31:12):
not going through my phone. Actually I would, I seriously
would give them trouble. I would just be like, there's
absolutely no reason that you need to go through my phone.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
So the flight went like back on track and took
off and went back.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
To where it was going. But that lady get her
ass beat in the in the terminal because people were
pissed off.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well, my question is you did the person have to
keep sitting next to each other? Do these people have
to keep sitting next to each other when the flight
goes back to the north.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
She should go to jail, she sucks.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
No, they can't take the risk, because I'm sure that
happens sometimes with minuscule and the.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Paint that's like not not even anything. No, that is ridiculous.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
I'm just saying I'm sure there's been situations where there's
been really small events that have turned into being bigger problems,
so they can't take the risk at all. Even though
mind yourew business up eve dropping on the person next
to you, all I was thinking was you keep saying like, oh,
you could just do that when you're on the plane.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Look, I can't do anything involving our work when I'm
on the airplane and have anything.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
If that's what people are looking at, it's just so bizarre.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
Yeah, Like I can't do anything we do for our
job in a public space like that.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
People will freak out.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
And I can't afford to have my flight diverted because
I already have plane anxieties. I don't know, this is
the most outrageous thing ever, but like, all I keep
thinking of is what if you have to keep sitting
next to that person on the way back, and how uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
I'm not sure they would probably they would probably move
it around. It's it's just embarrassing for the person. I mean,
it's embarrassing for the person whose phone it was. But
I'm sure every I mean that they probably put that
lady on another flight because they would be scared that
she would get beat up like that would piss off.
So many people think about that. Yeah, of course, And

(32:58):
it's like if the guy got a text that was
just like the bomb on the plane you're sitting on
is about to go off in thirty seconds like that,
that might be like a little bit more alarming, but
just like rip, like what like something it couldn't Like
my twelve year old writes, that's if like I don't
even know one of a YouTube video gets deleted or

(33:20):
some something like the dumbest reason. It's like kind of
a joke, like you're like rip.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Like recently, somebody on an airplane made their hot spot.
There's a bomb on this plane, so obviously they had
to like do that. Well, people are idiots and they
do that, but obviously that sparked some concern and then
they had to search the whole plane and that person
got interrogated because and I believe that was just a

(33:44):
really but a practical joke.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
That makes sense though, like you wouldn't get mad about
that because you're like, Okay, obviously that's alarming because first
you're just like, what human on earth would even do that?
It's just so losory. But then you're like, okay, maybe
it's somebody that's just that's little like off the rocker
that needs to get checked out or looked into.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Not the I think the message here is that no
matter what, when you look at somebody else's phone, you're
gonna see something you don't want to see, So don't
look it through other people's phones.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
This actually happened to Laura when they went to Florida.
I don't remember why they went to Florida, but they
were taking the flight home and some guy started saying
something about having a bomb or something like that, or
he started some kind of trouble.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Wasn't there like a fight, and then he threw it.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
There was a fight, and then he said something and
he was just like, wasn't he like a Delco dude?
That was just like yeah, but it wasn't like a
serious threat, like he was in an argument with somebody
else and he just said it not thinking. It was
just like when when Ben Stiller and Meet the Parents,
was just like, it's not like I have a bomb.
You can't say bomb on a plane like that. But

(34:55):
they so they like had to evacuate the whole entire
plane and then they ended up getting stuck at the
airport for like a whole day. It was just such
a mess, and and like the feeling you have is
you're you just like want to punch a person because
you're just like I just want to get home, and
you're being a tool, and now we all have to
suffer for it.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
I highly doubt they told the people exactly what happened
on that flight. They honestly probably didn't even know until
it was in the news a couple of days later.
They probably just said they turned around for a security
concern and they cleared it and then sent them back
on their way. Yeah, that's that's true, because because otherwise
she would have gotten beat up, and she she sucks.

(35:37):
Like imagine imagine like hanging out with this chick or
this person being your mom or something like.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
She just she's totally thought she was doing the right
thing and and and gonna be the hero protecting everyone,
and you're just like.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
No, it's not like the person kind of text it
was like have fun murdering everybody on the airplane you're
currently sitting on it. It's like so ridiculous, it really is.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Like it's it's it's just alarming. I'm more alarmed that
the stewardess or like didn't look over and say, like,
I'm telling you that half that's nothing.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
I'm sure they have to treat every single reported incident
as a potential threat. And that's what happened, Like, because
what if that did end up being something as dumb
as it?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I had a guy jerking off next to me on
the airplane for a whole entire flight, and they didn't
turn the flight around.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Like, corniness is not a threat to an entire commercial airline.
Disgusting and disturbing, yes, but not a threat to so gross.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
So it just was. It was disturbing, it's so nasty,
all right, guys.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
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As a reminder, my training is as a pathologist's assistant.
I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
and pathology education. I am not a doctor and I
have not diagnosed or treated anyone dead or alive without

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and social media accounts are designed to educate and inform
people based on my experience working in pathology, so they
can make healthier decisions regarding their life and well being.
Always remember that science is changing every day and the

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