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On today’s MKD, we cover January Jones' misophonia, a paramedic accused of masturbating on his coworkers' food, a Santa arrested, age limits on snow shoveling, and a father thought to have abandoned his family found murdered in the basement of their family home. 

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about January Jones and miss Ophonia, a
paramedic who decided to be a disgusting pig and throw
away his entire career to make some extra money. In
keeping up with the holiday season, We're going to talk
about a Santa Claus who was arrested for child porn
and the dangers of shoveling snow. And then we'll finish

(00:43):
off the episode with a family who thought their dead
had abandoned them, only to find his dead body years
later in their basement. All that and more on today's episode,
Let's get started with January Jones.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
All right, January Jones aka Betty Draper from Me has
revealed she's been dealing with a lifelong condition called misophonia.
And I think you have this, toube I do.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I was reading this and I was like, I have
this one hundred percent. As I was writing off our
notes for today's episode. Actually they were outside doing my
like cleanup for the fall, you know, the winter clean up,
getting you know, the leaves and everything and the blower
is like triggering to me. It gives me so much

(01:28):
anxiety I can't It's probably my number one trigger this.
So what else does that freaking asmr bullshit that the
kids watch on YouTube When people like speak softly and
it's like very crisp, it makes me feel it gives me.
It's funny because it makes me like angry. And then

(01:50):
I'm reading this and I'm like, oh, okay, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
So this condition causes someone to feel like extreme discomfort, anxiety,
or discussed after hearing certain noises. And when I've read that,
I immediately thought when we were driving to see Hamilton and
Mom won't put a video on her phone, freaked out
on her.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
That's another one that's triggering to me is when people
are listening to their phones or in public. If you're
on your phone in public, I don't care. If someone
has a phone up to their ear and they're talking
on the phone when it's on speakerphone. It's so triggering
to me that the speakerphone, the loud talking, just like
all of it. It just pisses me off so bad.

(02:31):
It just it puts me like it puts me from
zero to like one hundred in a second, and my mother, Yes,
we're in the car, and like she's listening. She has
like TikTok on and is scrolling through those videos like that.
I don't know if I get mad because I think
it's just so rude. It's just like when we were
was it was I with oh, I was with Andrea

(02:53):
at the diner at the Silver Diner, right and some
person that was sitting behind me was on the phone
on the speakerphone like an old person, and it's like
right behind my ear and I can't even focus on
anything else. I'm just so mad. And I don't know
if it's like the actual noise or is it just like, dude,
you're so rude. You know.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
My problem is I wonder if it falls under the
category of this, Like I get triggered like that noise wise,
when I hear two noises at once and I can't focus,
Like when I'm on the phone with Mom and pop
up and the dog's barking in the back.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
My god, that fucking dog, or I can't stand that dog.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
When I'm watching TV and my husband decides to watch
reels on full blast and I'm like, hello, I'm watching
a television show and trying to pay attention to what
they're saying, or like when you have music on the
car that loudly and somebody starts talking to you, and
I feel like my brain like short circuits and I
can't figure out which one to focus on.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, or like go into a bar or going out
to dinner in general when it's too loud, I can't
deal with it.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh yeah totally. But yeah, you one hundred percent of
this problem because I think there's a level of annoyance,
but it like really trips.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
You up, and we'll win your time and day. She
my mom got so salty when I yelled at her,
and I was just like, and I'm like, I'm the
one that's wrong. You're We're in a car having conversation
with people and it's quiet, and there's like six of us.
Nobody wants to listen to that. You want to listening
to TikTok videos Like.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I'm gonna get a text after this that says Humper
like I do pretty much every other day when she listens.
But yeah, January Jones says she's been dealing with this
for a long time and it's serious because I mean,
as you should be able to tell it could drive.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
You really crazy.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
And she has a brother in law who she says
is a really great person, but he doesn't take it
seriously and eat chips very loudly around her, which triggers her.
So I don't know, I could totally knowing you.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I can now see this is the real thing. It
happens because the kids probably will agree that, Like if
we're if we're sitting there and Lilian will turn on
like one of those videos, I want to pick up
the phone and throw it across the room. That's not
the iPad.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
No, I'm serious, Like I had a normal response.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
It makes me like it just pisses me off so bad.
I can't explain it, like and she and she'll be like, okay, sorry,
and I'm like, I've told you a thousand times. Is
there one for smells too, because I get triggered by
smells too, Like my kid comes downstairs and puts twenty

(05:30):
sprays of this soul day Gennaro crap on her, and
like it triggers me. It pisses me off so bad.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
No, they really over perfume themselves and it's disgusting.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
And then I'm just like listen, guys, I'll do anything
for you whatever, Just like I have a few rules.
One of them is like, I don't want to hear
that ASMR stuff. I don't want to smell one smell
one spray is fine, and then it's just like the
twenty sprays, like all of it. It just and then
I get pissed off that I have to smell it
the whole entire car ride and stuff like. I just

(06:05):
get triggered.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Okay, all right, So a Baltimore paramedic is under investigation
after he allegedly posted videos masturbating on supplies and his
coworker's food.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Listen, this shit is so messed up. So I want
to look on my computer really quick because I don't
know if you did you see the one I don't
know if you saw this one article, this one that
I came across, right, huh. But it's it's from a
fire fire law blog. Okay. I can't even believe there's

(06:41):
the entire law a website for firelaw. But there's actual
screenshots from his OnlyFans page. This is what it was.
It was an only fans page. Okay, that's what I
was wondering where he was posting there and his his
dick picture blurred out, thank god, although I could see

(07:01):
enough of his arm that I could see that he
has visible tattoos. Fucking idiot. Yeah, why would you another
one identify her? It's it's literally an identifier. I could
see the floor that looks like a classic floor that
you would see in a firehouse, Like you're just a moron.
And then and I don't know who found out about this,
but somebody obviously found out about it and reported it.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
That was my next question.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
All of the all of the pictures are labeled underneath,
and one says coworker toothpaste vandalism. The other one says
pissing in family marinade, pissing in my coworker soda, pissing
in my room on my roommate's toothbrush, cleaning my ass
with my roommate's toothbrush, sucking and robbing coworker's chapstick on

(07:47):
my dick, or sounding sorry sounding so that means he's
sticking it in his pee hoole, pissing in coworkers dressing
something with the gym, champ who urinating in my wife's mouth.
These are and these are all videos which I can't
click on because they're just screenshots, unfortunately, because I kind

(08:09):
of want to see them, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
But well, I will say he posted the videos and
he did delete them.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
But as we know, the internet is so nice. Well,
the Internet's forever.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
So of course some online sleuth working for one of
these news outlets was able to find them very easily.
And to the question I had earlier was who did
discover this? Was it a subscriber of his only fans
that thought he took it too far?

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Or would somebody?

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Did somebody at work just happen to stumble upon this?
Because how did they possibly put two and two together?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I feel like I read I've read on here. I
couldn't I couldn't figure out. But they didn't name the person,
which annoys me. I mean, I know that you could
quickly figure out who it is because of his tattoo.
Obviously I protect their identity. Yeah, And and I think
this this is Baltimore County, and they're different than Baltimore

(09:00):
City because we do know a couple of Baltimore City guys,
So I don't know if they would know anything about this.
Oh here it is, it says reported allegation surface after
an anonymous complaint was submitted to the county. The materials
provided the department included videos posted by the paramedic to

(09:20):
an OnlyFans account. Yeah, so it was it was anonymous
to the county, so that could have really been anyone.
But this is embarrassing for the fire department as well
as just like this person and listen, like he was
probably like because this is so kind of weird. I

(09:42):
don't know like what the typical content on only Fans is,
but I'm assuming it's probably more.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Well there's a kink for everyone.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well that's what I'm saying, Like this isn't like a
traditional porn thing, and people get off on this shit,
so I'm assuming that that's like he he was probably
making pretty decent money on there. I can't really tell
if the videos don't. They don't say like how many

(10:10):
views there are and stuff, so I don't really know
if he was getting any play on there. But I mean,
like this is just complete. You know, you want to
think the best of people, Well, you.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Want to trust somebody that's there to try to save
your life.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Could you imagine like thinking that someone was like sticking
your chapstick in their penis hole, like no, really like
and like sticking your toothbrush on their asshole. Listen, I'm
thinking about this. It's just like like this is something,
this is not a one off unfortunately, and now this

(10:48):
person's making video for people to get off on.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah. I mean I'm thinking about like at the bar
for example, Like we used to leave our purses in
the basement near the office, right, but like I wasn't
in the bay, so I was upstairs the entire time.
So to think that somebody else could just go in
my bag and do something like that really quickly is disturbing.
And then when you add it on to this type
of job in particular, like think of Gabe, Like they
have their own bedrooms and stuff there where they're sleeping.

(11:14):
These people have some sort of like mini apartment going
on there. They live there part of the time. So
to think that he's going into their private space and
taking their personal items and violating them like that, and
it's just absolutely disgusting.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Well, i mean it's happened, people have still, you know,
people steal stuff, and I mean it's unfortunate, but this
is just like a whole other level of it. Just
you know, and and then they're saying that they're going
to sanitize all the firehouses and this and that, and
you're just like, yeah, but it's it's a sexual violation honestly,
Like even though you're not physically being assaulted masturbating on

(11:54):
stuff like that, it's just so gross. It's when you
know what I mean, It's just it's just terrible.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
And it said it's not clear if any of these
people actually ingested his bodily fluid, so like they don't
know for sure whether they did or not. And like
this reminds me of these stories we're always talking about,
you know, like people the dead bodies being violated. Right,
it's sexually assaulted. Like it's one of those things like
you just don't want to even know happened to you

(12:22):
or a loved one.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, I would. I would not want to know this
at all, because if you don't even have an answer
with certainty, like they don't know if anybody suggested. I
just can't even imagine, because you know, I go to
the firehouse all the time, so I can't imagine, just
like the guys looking at these pictures and knowing it
was one of their coworkers like standing over their bed

(12:43):
with the floor in the background and stuff with their
dick out on their stuff, Like it's so gross.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's absolutely disgusting. And I don't know why they're concealing
the identity of this person, Like if he actually did
this stuff, expose him, why are we protecting him? He
should be embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, I don't, Maybe somebody will, because somebody's definitely gonna
recognize his tattoo for sure.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
All right. Well, in other Predator news, as Santa Claus
was arrested for child pornography and endangering the welfare of
a child. Even worse, he was a retired elementary school teacher.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
So that's just awesome. The older, the older I'm getting,
and the more we we talk about this stuff, the
more I'm like, I'm just kind of like not into
the whole Santa thing, Like I we we do it
still once a year, and I used to do it
more often, and it's just it's just getting like it

(13:41):
just makes me think bad thoughts all the time, and
I don't want to be like that with everyone.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, we had a conversation on a previous episode about
is it weird that people play Santa I want to
be around kids, right, And we know somebody that's a Santa,
that's a genuinely great person and it's a retirement for him, right,
But there are people like this that are predators. And
I think it speaks to what Nancy Gray says. It like,
if somebody's more interested in your kids than you, it's

(14:11):
like a big problem. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I mean, for one thing, it's like, I mean, it's
a good gig. It's a good gig for a retired person,
especially if you look like Santa. Yeah, Like it's kind
of like, Okay, you just have to sit at the
mall for six hours and get paid like a decent
amount just to sit there. And like and some people,
like I want to believe in my heart that some
people want to just like they like to make kids

(14:36):
happy like that, because kids, especially with Santa's like the
ultimate for some kid. I mean, if you practice this
particular not even religion, but just tradition around this time
of year, you kids get a certain like it's like
a Disney World thing. It's just like they get so

(14:57):
excited because they know that they're getting a lot of
toys from this person and he's magical and this and
that and like to see a kid get excited about
Santa is special, like you've had it. I had it
with you, I had it with the two little ones.
Lucea still believes. I think, I don't. She can't.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
You have to tell her she's getting way too old.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I will, I just I don't want to. She's like
my baby anyway. It's just like to think that someone
would prey on that is just so sad to me.
And and you hear it from time to time that
it's just especially around this time of year, so many

(15:39):
people are waiting in line and doing this and that.
And I think that the more that every single year
that goes on, the more and more people are starting
to be like, maybe this isn't a great idea, Like
you know, people wouldn't don't leave their kids alone with
adults anymore like they used to, and stuff just because
things happen.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, it's a really ideal situation for a predator because
I mean, you're not only around children all the time,
but then they're sitting on their lap, so it's like
even though people are watching you, it's not like stuff
still can't happen. And it's really disturbing to think this
guy was an elementary school teacher too, because clearly I
don't think, well, is he sixty four years old. I
don't think he's just a predator all of a sudden, So, like,

(16:21):
what's he been doing this whole time before he got caught.
So the police are saying that they got alerted to
his internet activity, which I'm assuming is the porn last Thursday,
and then they executed a search war immediately on his
home because of his exposure to children, and then they
found that he had filmed a video of a child
and sent it to they said, either himself or somebody else.

(16:43):
So clearly it's not even just engaging with the activity online,
but he's around children all the time. And he had
an actual victim too that they know of, so this
is really disturbing.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Of course, this was very far.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
From us in Hamilton, New Jersey, right, so that's even
more disturbing to think about. And I'm just happy that
they took the claim seriously and they got him pretty quick.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, I mean, it's just and he was a teacher,
so God, there might be a lot of victims. I
mean there and there certainly is a I don't want
to say, but like people that are looking at it
on the computer versus people that like, you know, are
making the films and doing the act. It's like, if

(17:26):
he's done it once, that's there's a high probability. And
how he's old, right, so like how he's probably been
doing it. This is like not his first rodeo.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
You know, That's exactly what I'm saying, because if you
want to look at it similarly to a dui, it's
like what do they say, people drive drunk eighty times
before they're caught it?

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Yeah, so like exactly what was he doing before? Yeah?
I don't know. It's just it's just scary and you
don't know, Like if you really sit there and think
about it, if Christmas wasn't happening, would you ever just
like let your kid go sit on a stranger's strange
man a man slap no, like no, and then you're like, oh,

(18:07):
but put the costume on them. And now all of
a sudden, it's like, well that's standing. Like it's just
I don't know, and I'm like I'm a very Christmasy person,
so I hate to even say that, but like it's
just the thought of it is just like more and
more I just I'm not into it, I.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Mean going forward, Like do we have to keep putting
the kids on his lap? Like why can't they just
be like standing next to him?

Speaker 1 (18:34):
The difference they did that my kids. I've been having
my kids do that, like they if they like the
one that we take them to as like an like
a couch, actually it's not like a chair, Yeah, and
they could sit on the edges and then they could
stand behind like when it because I always go a
Lara in her kids. Yeah, and it's just like like

(18:55):
nothing will happen because we're there and it's five seconds.
But it's more just like the feeling of if they
were thinking something that you don't want them to like
use your child for that that's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know. Well, let's say it's like a non creepy
person too. Why would you even want to be in
the position for somebody to possibly call you out about it?

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I don't know. There was another video that was going
viral last week about a mom that was yelling at
a Santa because I guess the little girl sat down
on Santa's lap and he was just like, what are
you gonna ask for? You asking for a boyfriend for
Christmas or something, and like sometimes I feel like adults

(19:33):
like to like joke with kids, so like a part
of me is just kind of like okay, like that
it's funny because like they willn't ask for that, like
I don't, you know what I mean. And the mom
was just like, why are you asking my daughter if
she wants a boyfriend? She's six or whatever, you know
what I mean, And and like she was like calling
the guy out and just being like that's weird and inappropriate,

(19:56):
like she wants toys, she doesn't want a boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yeah, I have conflicted feelings about that, because you know,
it is funny when like two toddlers are at daycare
and they are friends, and you're like if you.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Just say to a kid, like do you want a car?
Like you just say like a funny thing, like something
that they definitely couldn't have because they're just little, like it,
probably I want to think, like I'm just naive. I
want to think that things are innocent. But then but
then if you think of somebody being a pervert like
that that and them asking that, then that's weird, you
know what I mean. So I get why she.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Freaked out because there's so many people saying it innocently,
but then there are.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Predators that are saying it and she might have been
a victim of sexual abuse herself, and that triggers people,
you know, because people are like they understand how it happens,
and it's scary, you know, totally.

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Speaker 1 (22:10):
Every single year when it snows, well almost every year,
because it doesn't snow every year. It's definitely snowing this year,
I predict it. It's been way too cold already. This
is like February temperatures. I feel like we're gonna have
a nasty, asty like winter, a nasty, nasty, asty winter.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Sid note, did you see the Farmer's Almanac is about
to be no more? Isn't that still considered the most
accurate weather predictor?

Speaker 1 (22:34):
I don't know, is any of it accurate?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Like just all good things are going away?

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, I don't know about that. But so so, whenever
it snows, it never fails that you know, of course,
it'll be a day that games at work, because that's
one of I don't have many, but that's one of
the things that I'm like, that's not my job.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Oh totally. I'm always like I do the tex says
you do the outside. This is not my problem.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, I and I do like every like I'll know
the lawn, I'll do anything. I just like, I don't.
I don't like to be cold. I just don't. And
and Gabe's just so good at it, so why would
I do it? Because he's so good at it. But
of course it always knows bad when it's his day.
So I'll go out there because I don't want it
to ice, you know, ice up and do it. And

(23:25):
and I'm whatever, I'm I guess I'm apparently I'm starting
to get to the age where there's concern. But my
when Gabe is at home, he he's like such a
good guy, Like he'll go to all of the older
neighbors houses and do their driveways and everything like that.
But Bill, who lives across the street, he's like a
stubborn old person and he insists on doing it himself.

(23:48):
And I'm like, dude, you're eighty years old. He doesn't
work out on a regular basis, and this is I'm like,
you are prime target for a sudden cardiac death. Please Bill. Yeah,
he doesn't see. He's wow. And I'm just like, dude,

(24:08):
and I'm like, dude, don't don't like, don't you go die,
know me, No, like, don't die right now. This is
this happens and he's like I'm fine, and I'm like
everyone thinks they're fine. This is like a weird It's
it's just a very unique way of exercising because you're
using all the muscles in your upper body and your
lower body's not moving, so your blood's like not circulating

(24:30):
correctly and it might take a like a longer time
for the blood to get back to your heart. And
you're older, your vessels aren't as good. You don't work
out like that and all of a sudden like boom,
heart attack. It's like a thing. It's a thing.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Thank god you're about to have a grandson because we'll
stick him up.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Yeah, do you think any kids. It's so bizarre because
so the girl, the girls on our block will go
around and they were the past couple of years have
been like can we shovel? Because I'm like, you guys
can make so much money right now if you go
to all these people's houses and just say I'll do
your driveway.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Have kids in my neighborhood that come around, but it
snows and they also do leaves and everything.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's not the same as it used to be. Though, No,
it's unhard, and my grandson's not going to be of
age for like ten years, and by then it'll be
like he's not even gonna want to do it anyway.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Well, in this article, they're saying, some experts are saying
you shouldn't shovel snow over sixty five. So if that's
the case, I think you'll be in a good place
because game's only fifty. But other experts you are saying,
you'll do it till.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
I know a Gabe will do it until the very
end because he just that's just how he is. But
they were so they did. I guess they were saying.
The American Journal of American Medicine said between the years
of nineteen ninety and two thousand and six, two hundred
thousand adults were treated for injuries from snow shoveling snow,

(26:00):
and there were more than sixteen hundred deaths sixty five
and older. Now, that's the thing when you see when
you see all those injuries, it's like people get injured
all the time, but you think about to the point
where you have to go to the emergency room. So
they're getting injured pretty bad. But a lot of it
is cardiac stuff, and so there's a direct correlation because

(26:23):
they're saying that it's more you're exerting more energy than
like if you were doing a cardiac stress test. So
just think about what you do on a treadmill. Right
if you just had a person like even me, because
I don't work out like that, Right if you just
told me to go run on the treadmill for fifteen minutes,
like I'm gonna drop dead, you know what I mean? Oh,
like I understand, so so like and now now put

(26:47):
you at eighty years old, like you're it's it's just
not a good idea, it's it's it's a lot. You're
the heavy snow, like you know, sometimes it's like that
very heavy snow that's not that fluffy kind. So I
try to yell at the neighbors, like I'll even pay
to get it done if there's if there's no one
to do it, or if I can't do it, but

(27:07):
I certainly don't want. I feel like we always say
we need like a shed on our block for things
like a snowblower that could be stored in the like
the neighborhood shed that.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Could be used. My neighbor has a mini snowplow that
like it's like a full vehicle. He gets in, but
he only does his sidewalk. He doesn't. Yeah, that's not cool.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
So are a couple of our neighbors have things like
that over the years that have been helping out with that,
because like, come on, if you have a snowblower, it's
pretty easy to use, Like, it's not lower, Like he
has a full snowplow that he doesn't do yours. No,
that's so douchey.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
He is older, so like I don't like he's older,
so like I get it, but it's no, it's not
even a snowblower.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
It's a full blown vehicle.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
He sits in and.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Likes, I don't get it. I don't get it. That's like,
just because you're old doesn't mean that you that you give.
Like listen speaking about Bill, my old neighbor that lives
across the street. He takes in my trash cans almost
every single week. He raises me out there to get them,

(28:19):
Like I bear the ratio of like how often I
do it for them versus or a gabe whoever's home
in the morning, Like he does it and he's eighty. Like,
that's just like a manners thing. If you could do
it and you have time, you should do stuff for
your neighbor like that. I don't know, they just love
that neighbor. But anyway, Yeah, so then and then it's

(28:41):
like you use the snowblower, and then you got the
problem with people cutting their fingertips off. Just a lot
of drama this time of year.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Just what are you supposed to do about the snow?

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Don't take it out of the snow blower when it's
clogged without making sure that it's turned off first. It's
just like a law mower, all right.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Back in the sixties, this thirty year old father suddenly
disappeared and his wife used the good old he went
out for cigarettes and never came back excuse with the kids.
So decades later, this guy's grandchildren are digging in the
basement of their family home and end up finding his
skeletal remains.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, and the reason that they were digging in the
basement is because some psychic medium person told them to
do it.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Was it Sylvia Brown?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, she would have been like, that's not how we died.
He bled.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Maybe she came up with the cigarettes excuse, and that's
why the mom was going with.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
So this is terrible for these people. No, it's terrible.
Like imagine thinking that your dad left you your whole life,
only to find out that he's been dead in your basement,
your whole life, and so the mom's dead too. They
have no answers, and the kids are like, this is

(29:58):
where the story gets weird to me. The kids think
that the mom has nothing to do with it.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, so this is the weird backstory behind it. So
they had a living handyman during this time.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Who, oh my god, this sounds like Vincenzo. Do you
ever hear the stories about Vincenzo and our family? No,
like some Italian fishermen that used to come and stay
at one of our aunt's houses. And everybody was like, oh,
she's pretty much banging him. And they were like, knowing
about Vincenzo, Oh, ask mom, mom, it's a good story.
All right.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
I have to call her later so i'll see.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
What she Yes, it's a great story. Okay.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
So they had this living handyman during this time who
was helping the dad with a construction project. So then
shortly after the husband disappears or she says, abandons them.
She marries the handyman, but they do end up getting divorced,
which was a relief to the kids because they said
that God was a total piece of shit. He was
physically abusing them, sexually assaulted the girls, seemed terrible all around.

(30:59):
So the mom ends up dying in nineteen ninety eight,
never said what happened.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
She never filed a missing.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Persons reporter or anything, which I just think is also suspicious.
And then there was a theory going around that he
reunited with a woman he met while he was serving
in the Korean War and raised a family with this
mysterious woman that was totally made up. So then the
mom dies in nineteen ninety eight. By twenty ten, one
of the family members finally is like, I think we
should go see a psychic just to get any insight.

(31:26):
This psychic literally says, no, he didn't leave you for cigarettes.
He's buried in your basement. So they still have this
house and their family, and then they end up looking
in this very specific area the psychic said, and they
did find his skeletal remains.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
They found bones, and they called I guess they called
the police, and they said, yeah, that's a pelvis. That's
a human pelvis.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
It's so outrageous.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
So dude, how do people live exactly what a handyman
living like? And then you're just like, ah, he just
went for cigarettes. I'm not going to report a missing.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
But the kids are saying they don't think the mom
was involved. So it's like, are they trying to say
the handyman killed the dad buried him without the mom knowing,
And then was just like, oh, yeah, he left and
never came back, but and she never filed him. Like
I would just never accept that answer.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
And also like they dug a hole in the basement.
It's not even really, it's so superficial. He would have
smelled so strong in that house for a while as
he was decomposing, until he dig decomposed completely. Yeah, I'm
just like, now it's it looked like this, it's skeletonized, right.
It was fifty what was it fifty five years ago

(32:43):
or something?

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I think sixty three is when he went, yeah, for cigarettes,
and so his.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
So it smelled down there for quite a while until
this process went through. So that's number one that you're like, Okay,
so nobody noticed that it smelled in the basement really
really bad for a while, right, and then she didn't
report him missing. Come on, and I think the kids

(33:13):
are so traumatized. I mean really like I've heard stories
of fathers like just not just like leaving and going
to get cigarettes and that coming back that I can't
imagine how traumatizing that is to a child.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Well, especially because your whole life. I mean, these people
are older, they're like in their what.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Sixties now, But that's that's like a that has to
be like a sore spot. That's because no, say you
think your.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Whole life, you have this deadbeat dad who didn't want
anything to do with you, but it was actually just
murdered and buried in your house. And it's also the
disturbing fact that you're living with a murdered person buried
in your basement your entire life. Like I just think
about this from about kids and stuff. Just like if
you're if your parent doesn't want you like that, that

(34:04):
they're enough to be like yeah, I don't care if
I ever see them again. How do you grow up
to like have a normal adult relationship.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah, but you could say that no, I know, I'm
just saying though, like trust no, because that's like I
just think that that's like a little bit different of
a different story, because sometimes people have to give up
someone for adoption because they physically like can't take care
of the person. It's just like you're like, if you

(34:35):
have a person that's living at your house with you,
a parent that just gets up and is like, yeah,
fuck this, I'm out of here and never never cares
to see you again. I don't know, like how you
don't have issues with that, like adopted kids are. I
feel like it's just different because like sometimes they're adopted
when they're like little babies and they just don't even

(34:56):
know the difference that they're their parent is always like
their parent are the one that adopted them. They don't
even know that feeling because they have someone that is
there for them, you know.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, I mean you could say either way, because the
stereotypical adoption case we think of as like a baby
getting adopted that never knew their parents. But there certainly
are older kids that happens too too, and of course
deaths happen and everything. But yeah, I see what you're saying,
Like you're living with this person because some of the
kids were I think up to ten years old, So
you're living with this person who's acting like you're dead

(35:29):
for a decade, and then all of a sudden, you
think they just walked out on you and that that's traumatizing.
And then you get to be in your sixties or
seventies thinking your entire life that your dad's just this
total deadbeat that walked out on you, only to find
out that he was murdered, probably by your mother because or.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Had and then your mom's dead and you can't even
find out what happened, and it's like your mom was
the only stable person in your life, your whole life.
She could have been like a totally awesome mom, but
like she off the dad, likely she had to be
involved in some way. There's no way that you have
a decomposing body in your basement and a husband that's

(36:07):
gone missing and you never call the cops and you're
married to another person right away. It just seems it's
a Vincenzo situation too. You don't have a guy living
in your house that you're not like banging, right, Like
it's just weird or somebody's banging. Maybe it was like
a thruptle thing. I have no idea, but This entire

(36:28):
story is.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Getting detailed on this new HBO dot called The Secrets
Wee Bury.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
It's coming out next week, so I'm.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Gonna definitely watch it because I need more information about this.
I just can't accept the set face value.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Yeah, this is a this is like a denial situation.
Like I like that they think that their mom's like
a nice lady, and it's just like, yeah, something's except
that one lie. She told you that one time, the.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Lie that your dad's murdered and he's buried in the basement.
Kind of a big yeah, yeah, exactly. All right, Well,
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See you, guys, thank you for listening to Mother Noos Death.
As a reminder, my training is as a pathologists assistant.
I have a master's level education and specialize in anatomy
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(37:40):
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