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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about what appears to be the end
of the body positivity health at any size movement that
is sweeping its way through Hollywood. A United States Postal
Service worker who was found dead in a mal sorting machine,
a student who was shot by her friend while hi
on marijuana, an alarming letter that was sent out to
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patients from a hospital, and a suicide that has been
linked to an extremist group that a kid first discovered
on the popular gaming platform for kids called Roeblocks. All
that and more on today's episode. All of these Hollywood
stars like super skinny now, especially the ones that were
pushing it down our throat that it was, you know,
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healthy to be morbidly obese.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, I guess the question coming up now is with
this new rise in ozepic and gop one use in general,
is it the new body positivity movement to be open
about using weight loss drugs and getting plastic surgery or
are these people just adapting to the same old Hollywood standards.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It's what do you think the same old Hollywood standards. Now,
like think about this, like most right now, it was
epic's expensive for a lot of people, Like a lot
or those types of drugs could be over one thousand
dollars a month. I know that they're trying to make
it cheaper, but as of this moment, it's not cheap
for everyone. And then on top of that, a lot
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of people are having a hard time even having access
to these medications who need it for diabetes, who need
it for diabetes, but like because everybody wants them and
there's just not enough of it, so right there, it's
just like unrealistic for the average person to be doing
such a thing. And then you have the other thing
(02:11):
with the plastic surgeries and stuff, because that's the newest
thing that every single person has this special surgery. Like
Chris Jenner and all these people get these crazy face
surgeries done and they look so much younger, which I
actually would like to see what it looks like in
real life, because who knows what it looks like with
(02:32):
all these weird filters that they use and stuff. But
didn't you just send me an article that her facelift
was like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars minimum. Okay,
so again for us regular people living in the verbs,
like that's that's usually a couple years salary for a person,
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like for their entire year salary. Again another unrealistic thing.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So it's like.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
A whole family's household and more for a facelift, I know.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And it sucks for us because they're all gonna be
eighty years old looking like they're thirty, and the regular
people are just gonna be looking like they're their age.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I mean, maybe this is my hot take. I don't
think any of these people look good.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Some of them look good, come on.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Nancy Lohan, Ann Hathaway chef's kids that they look amazes.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But other do you think they went to the same surgeon,
because like they have a similar.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
This surgeon whose name by the way, he's becoming a
celebrity in his own right for his work, Steve Levine,
he's who's doing all these people.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
He is theirs.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I think he did theirs and Chris Jenners and everybody's.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Because like I might actually sellmont of my kids so
I could get not just too good, but it's insane, seriously,
like they're they're like Anne Hathaway man she looks she
looks so good, just like and she I feel like,
I feel like she doesn't look like she has anything done.
And Lindsay lohand too just it's like a like just
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like refreshed. Look they look so good. But I don't know,
like I've been seeing all these videos go around with
Chris Jenner and people showing what she really looks like
when the pictures aren't filtered, and I mean it is
an improvement from what it was, but also it's just like, Okay,
it doesn't look as good as they're trying to portray
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because a lot of it has to do with like
the skin texture and everything else too, and they're doing
that like.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Blur filter whatever it's called.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
That you look like face tuning a lot, and like,
this is gonna be very catty five of me for
those people that don't understand that reference. On our YouTube
live every Friday, the Last five, which really ends up
being the last like twenty minutes episode, every week, we
do a segment called Caddy five where we air a grievances,
mostly with celebrities and the dumb things and it like it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Usually our Caddy five usually has nothing to do with
medicine or dying. It's just it's just being total just bitches.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
And just gossiping and shit talking. Yeah, so this is
gonna be very catty five with me. But like this morning,
for example, I saw a picture of Bethany Frankel with
a wig on, like Michelle Pifer, and you're just like no,
And it said it was for her fifty five or
her fifty fifth birthday. And in the comment I had
to go to the comments because I knew everybody was
thinking the same as me. She looks eighty years old, like,
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and everybody in the comments was like, she's only fifty five.
And these people are getting so much work done that
they're looking even older than they want to look.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Are you so out of tune with the world that,
like you didn't know that that was coming? Think about this,
Like Michelle Pfeiffer is like like a gorgeous specimen, right,
She's a fine specimen of a person. Like why would
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Bethany Frankel ever try to mimic her? Look, it's never
going to happen and people are going to destroy you,
Like why don't you think? Why why am I going
to try to dress and emulate a super beautiful, perfect person.
When I don't look that way, you're just gonna get teased,
like you're walking right into it.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Because it's the genius of Bethany Franco where now people
are talking about her right, because he's either one of
those right.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
She just doesn't even care if it's negative or positive.
She just wants people to talk about her.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
She doesn't. And she was on a podcast I listened
to last week, and this the amount of times this
lady seriously said, well, I invented that, And I'm like,
shut the fuck up.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Like you so annoy anyway, But I've said it before too,
And like, there are a lot of people my age,
like I see Alex Cooper, the call her Daddy Girl,
Alex Earl, the influencer, Brooks Nader the model.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
They are younger than me and they look ten years
older than me because of the amount of work these
people get done, and not just plants or surgery. I'm
talking about just like simply injections what they're doing. And
I don't understand why you're twenty eight and you want
to look forty five.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I don't know, Like we need to talk to a
plastic surgeon about this, and we could talk talk to
doctor Dimitri too about the injections, because I do find
when you look at Anne Hathaway and Lindsay Lohan, you're
just like, Okay, this was done right, and it's it's
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like the true it's just the true power of of
what cosmetic surgery could really do to make somebody look better.
But why doesn't it happen more often? That's I guess
that's what my I mean. I guess you could say
Lindsay Lohan started out as a very beautiful person, but
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she got kind of haggard because of her whole like
what she was doing whatever was she was not treating
her body will and and Anne Hathaway never looked bad,
So I mean maybe they were just starting out from
because like really with Lindsay Lohan, if she just sobered
up in stuff like she would, she would look better anyway.
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So I guess I guess really it's like they were
starting off at a very good place to begin with,
maybe because I think some of these people have not
that they're not that they're unattractive, they have they just
have different a different face what you would consider to
be like the standard, and they try to make it
the standard. And that's never gonna work maybe, and that's
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why it looks unusual.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I actually wonder. I don't know for a fact that
that guy did Lindsay Lohans, and she was living in
Dubai for a while. I wonder if she got it
done over there.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I oh care.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I just wish she would call me and tell me,
because I'll be on the first plane out. Mother knows
death is gonna have to close down for a couple
at least audio only.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
We've only ever gone audio only an emergency technical difficult
or the week of my surgery and the week of
your surgery.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So yeah, I should have done it the week of
my surgery because I was deformed looking, but whatever, shut up?
So so yeah, I just I am curious. And a
lot of it too has to do. I guess people's
face looks now, especially in Hollywood. If people are taking ozempic,
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that's a whole other, a whole other set of issues.
We got to have doctor Dimitrion because I'm sure he's
having a lot of patients come in that are taking
this medication that are starting to look old because they're
losing so much subcutaneous fat, And like how that's getting
repaired with cosmetic injections.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, I'm interested in that. And then you know, some
of these celebrities are defending it, saying it's for health reasons,
and I think we can see that in some people
that were morbidly obese and have slimmed down.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, but I just am kind of salty about it
because people were trying to cancel me years ago because
I was saying that it wasn't good to be obese,
it was not healthy. Remember when Cosmopolitan put out that
whole like Healthy at any Side and had a morbidly
obese person on the cover and was just trying they
were like trying to gaslight us into thinking that these
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people are totally healthy and their blood works healthy and stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And I was just like, no, it's.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Not it's not about like for what you're trying to
say though, which like every time we talk about obesity
we get nasty gram so I'll be prepared for the
one that's gonna come after this episode for example, right,
But what you're trying to say is you don't give
a shit what the person looks like physically. You're saying,
like they're insides are not healthy.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I don't give a shit, like I don't. I wouldn't
consider myself to have like any kind of a like
body that anybody could want. But internally it's it's okay,
Like you know what I mean. I mean, I'm just
saying from my experience with autopsy and stuff, like when
you look that way from the outside, it's because the
inside is covered with fat, and you don't want your
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organs covered with fat, because you see that more often
in people who die when they're young. That's just like
a fact. Sorry, I'm actually listen. I'm anti ozembic by
any means. Like, there's definitely people that use it. I'm
one hundred percent anti against it. That people who are
trying to lose ten or fifteen pounds, I think it's ridiculous.
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But like Lizzo is a prime example of someone that
she needed to lose probably over one hundred pounds if
not more. Like, really, that's a lot for someone to do,
and it feels overwhelming and it's very hard, and I
think that for a person like her, I'm glad she's
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taking it because that's what that drug was meant to do.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Well. Even Amy Schumer too, they quoted her in this article.
She said I'm proud of how I've looked always, but
I've been working to be pain free, and I finally am.
My end of metriosis is better, my back is healing,
I no longer have Cushing syndrome, so my face went
back to normal as well. So I do think there's
a bunch of celebrities using.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
But she loves herself so much that she deleted every
single picture off of social media for.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Which she looked like before. It is hypocritical. And then,
of course, I think the most shocking one in the
last couple of weeks was this picture of Megan Trainer
that was going around because she was always a curvy
or heavier girl, and now she's, you know, clearly done
something that she's very thin, her face is more defined.
I just don't see why people care. So it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It's funny because of course all these people are like,
you look terrible, and then she puts out a statement
and she's like, no, I look really good. I actually
think she looks amazing, But like I thought she was,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I just think I don't know whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I think she looks good, and I thought she looked
good before. I thought she looked a very beautiful woman,
and I don't. I just think there's like a huge
difference between someone like Megan and her saying you know,
body like a body positivity, because she wasn't really she
was just like a little bit thicker and Lizzo being
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hundreds of pounds overweight, you know what I mean, Like, well, yeah,
just because And I always used to get mad about
it because that message if I could say, any any
one demographic of people that you would see would die
young would be women like between my age and like sixty,
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just like so many dead women that were just fat.
And that's what I correlated to, just so you see
the reality of that with your job, where I think
people don't and then they want to assume if you
challenge that, that you're saying somebody's not attractive, and that's
not the purpose. We don't care what people look like.
It's about being healthy on the inside. And there's really
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skinny people that aren't healthy on the inside either, So
it goes both ways.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And listen, you could arg that people that are on
this drug are not all healthier either.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I mean, it's exactly what I was just about to say.
There's people borderlining anorexia with this drug.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, and there's people that have I guess that's another
one of the concerns is that there are people who
have been struggling with eating disorders who are now taking
this drug too so and and like I just feel
like everybody is jumping on it so hard and and.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Like people need to slow their role a little bit. There.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
There's definitely research on this type of drug because it's
been out for a while as far as a diabetes drug,
which is why they're able to know certain side effects
that happen and stuff that commonly happen in people, and
even worse things that could happen, like thyroid cancer and
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things like that. I don't know, it's just I just
think everybody's so quick to go on it and you
don't really realize that you will likely have to be
on it for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
And because if you go off it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Your old ways and your old eating habits and everything
are going to come back. And I'm sorry, but like
so another thing that we do in our YouTube live
is like we do conspiracy theories. We talk about at
the end of the episode two, just like Outreach it
gets Wild, we were talking about like the moon landing
and suff last week. But like, so conspira what is it?
(15:35):
What does Emma call it? Over time conspiracy or whatever
she calls it? But yeah, like talk about conspiracy theory.
Does anybody just sit there and think, like, is there
a reason that this drug is getting pushed out that
every single person that takes it that gets this result
of looking better in their opinion, that they need to
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be on it for the rest of their life. Like
to me, I'm just kind of like nobody's questioning that
a drug company is trying to get people on a
drug for the rest of their life, that they're going
to make trillions and trillions of dollars off people.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
But isn't this like a little death becomes her, Like
all these people are taking this magic potion to be
so beautiful and then when they can't have access to
it anymore where times start running out, they literally start disintegrating.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
It's going, Yeah, they're gonna start like chipping off and
having to get carry spray paint with them and stuff.
I don't know, just I just I just think that
like people need to slow their roll a little bit.
I'm not saying that it's bad, but I'm also not
I I also don't person I don't believe that it's
a miracle drug. I think a miracle drug would be
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that one that you could take and it's forever. It's forever,
you know, Oh, you're not going to eat as much anymore,
and it'll just help curve your cravings and stuff them.
Putting you on medication for the rest of your life
is not any kind of miracle drug in my opinion,
it's kind of insane.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
A USPS employee has died after getting stuck in a
mail sorting machine at a distribution center.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
So this story is so messed up because you're at
work and this guy. Nobody at work knew he was
missing or anything. The only reason that they found him
is because his fiance was like, he didn't come home
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from work, where is he? She went there, She goes there.
They end up calling the fire department. They look around
and they find him in this sorting machine and said
he had been dead for hours, like what is to
eight hours, which is like essentially, you know, a work
shift almost What happened that this guy got stuck in
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a machine and there was like no alarms, there was
no nobody knows what happened. Nobody saw anything. There was
no clocking in or out, no reports of a supervisor, nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, that is like totally weird. And then they said
he was a maintenance man. So I'm wondering if there
was an issue with the machine and he was fixing
it and maybe that's why an alarmed. I would assume
these machines have alarmed for something like this, because I
can't imagine this is the first time something like this
has happened.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
So they told Difiance that the autopsy's going to take
a couple months, and that's because obviously just because toxicology
takes so long, and they're just an investigation too, because
first they're gonna want to look at the body and
do the autopsy and do toxicology to make sure that
he wasn't intoxicated while operating the machines, because that could
obviously affect how somebody operates the machine. So they'll look
(18:49):
for illegal substances. But also have you ever taken like
benadrill or something and it's like, don't operate machinery when
on this medication.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Uh So, yeah, when I take benadrill, it's like terrible,
like so drugged and can't.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Do it any Yeah, so they'll check for all that
stuff with the toxicology, and then they're gonna check to
see what has caused a manner of death work. They're
gonna see if he died from like if it was
truly an accident and he was squeezed in the machine,
because you know, they're gonna have to do an investigation
too with the actual machine to see if it was malfunctioning.
And sometimes like with certain machines like that, like if
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a person has a scarf on, it's like less likely
with with a man because sometimes they usually don't have
longer hair. But you hear about people putting their hair
and ponytails and stuff like they could get grabbed into
the machine sometimes. So they'll just try to do an
investigation to see, like what how the guy ended up there.
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I mean, there's always the potential of suicide and homicide too,
even though rare, like did somebody kill him and shove
them in there like it did? The possibilities of what
happened we were endless. It's most it's most likely an
accidental thing, but you don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Well, the fiance is upset too, because they issued a
statement and said, Oh, we're saddened by the loss of
our employee, but don't worry. The facility is still operating.
And she's saying it was just disrespectful and didn't even
mention his name or that he was an Air Force
veteran or anything, and it is a little disrespectful, Like, Okay,
we probably assumed that the facility is still working, so
(20:23):
chill out.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Is anyone worried? Like who is actually waiting for something
to calm?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
In the mail me?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I love the mail a lot. It's the last old
timey thing we have. I didn't sign up like all
of you guys did to get the notice every day.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
What's kind I don't look at it.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I'm just like it's the last surprise I have, like
every day. I think Ricky knows is more than anybody
can see. He lives here obviously, but like it is
like my last old world excitement that I don't know
what's gonna be advice, What don't.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You get I get like that yes for casinos, and
like shit that I want, like I throw in the trash,
and and like coupons to get my roof replaced.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yesterday I got eight pieces of mail and they were
all spam, which sucks, but like sometimes you know, Devin
will send me a little thank you card or something
and I think it's so sweet and I like that,
so like.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Don't worry, the mail is still going. Sorry I wasn't.
I wasn't worried.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I use like other services that are actually more reliable. Sorry, Mike,
I know you're listening. We love our mailman so much. Well,
it's my mailman, but Maria is just of association because
she used to live here. But he listen, he's a listener.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I'm not mailman.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
You don't mean to be talking shit on your organization.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I used to have this mail person that would walk
through my backyard, which inappropriate, and she would scare get
shit out of it?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Who can listen if you have to be outside all
because I'm not old and rain and shit. You're not
going to just let your mail person like cross your lawn.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
No, because hoose in.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Your house, like drinking your hot chocolate and watching them
walk through the snow and you're judging them because they're
walking across your lawn.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
No, because it doesn't make sense to go it's the
longer way to go through my backyard. They get to
wear my mailboxes. So it didn't make sense. And I
was like editing at the dining room table all the time.
And then she'd walk by and scare the shit out
of me because we're not prepared for somebody to be
in my backyard. Oh God, But if it made sense,
I don't care. But it didn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
All right.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
A twenty six year old pharmacy student was shot by
her friend after they smoked weed together, and the friend
became paranoid thinking that she was going to be stabbed.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So we've talked about this several times on this show
about how it doesn't happen to all people, but some
people when they smoke weed, it induces psychosis in them,
especially if they have an underlying mental health condition or
a family history of an underlying mental health condition. So
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I guess this friend had went over her house to
help her cotter dog's hair, and the other the woman
who killed her, ended up thinking that she was holding
these scissors cutting the dog's head and thought that she
was going to stab heish she was she was like
having a like a paranoid hallucination that she that she
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interpreted that her friend was going to stab her with
these scissors she was cutting the dog's hair with.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
But like, where did the gun come from? Did she
just have it in her purse?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Or was the dog cut in her room? She had
it in her room.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
But wasn't she at the girl's house that she shot?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
No, I don't know. I thought that she was at
her house. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I thought that the pharmacy students the one that went
over her friend's house to cut the dog's hair.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Okay, but regardless, So she thinks she's gonna get stabbed,
so she shoots her and claims she didn't mean to,
and then she also shot herself accidentally in the stomach.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I don't know what the story is.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, she's been charged with first degree reckless homicide. This
story's just said. I mean, this girl that was the
student was in her last year of pharmacy school. She
was hoping to move to Florida. She just celebrated her birthday.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I mean, on one hand, or like, was it really
the weed that just made her like go nuts? Or
is she just using that as an excuse? Like did
they get in a fight, did something happen?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I mean, I know I defend weed a lot. When
you challenge it, and I will say, like I did
definitely do see people that have these issues while smoking,
but that seems like another drug was involved or she
had a serious issue going on, and like you're saying
was using it.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
There could have been too, because that's I was thinking
that was a possibility too. So in the investigation, they'll
check the drugs themselves if there's anything left over to
see if they were actually and where they got it
from too. But we know that the weed stores now,
I mean, they sell pretty potent marijuana, so it's just
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enough to cause people to have problems if they're going
to have problems from it, totally.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Do you think like.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
One thing that I noticed that I mean, like I
don't want to get into this conversation again, but just like,
there are so many weed stores. It's to the point
where this week Atlantic City was like, you can't put
any more weed stores.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
There's too many.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Because they're making a ton of money and I think
they get extra taxes on them, so they're making the
towns a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
It's just like.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
From my house to your house, which is what eighteen
minutes there seriously is like ten of them. It's it's
just like, really it just seems out of and listen,
like I directly correlate it with how everybody sucks at
driving now because everybody's high. That's my that's my personal
scientific studies.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I read an article a couple of years ago that
when weed was made legal in Colorado, it like single
handedly changed the economy there because.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Of the tax revenue it was bringing in.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, so I think I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Sure, I mean, like they say that, but and I'm
sure it does. But like, who's it making money? Because
it's and improve my town at all or anywhere around here.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Some town sucks like you. I live in a way
shittier town than you, And I think my like streets
look nicer. My trash comes on time every week.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Listen, it's a soft subject, so don't don't don't bring
it up my street, please, my my.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
My street looks like.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
That. The the like the pavement or the street itself,
the asphal it just looks like such shit. Yeah, like
it like ruins the vibe of the street. It's terrible.
Just like whatever, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go
on a rant about that because any of my neighbors
that are listening will one hundred percent get pissed off
too at the same time about it. But all right,
(26:43):
so so yeah, so uh Unfortunately, like we'll have to
hear more about this case because I feel like the
investigation in this case is really important because obviously, like
people lie and say, oh, I heard voices and I
was doing that because they're trying to get out of trouble,
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last month, over five hundred patients were shocked to receive
a letter stating they were dead despite very much being alive.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
So I read this article and some of the people
who are interviewed are saying it was just very shocking
and upsetting.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I'm just like, why you're not dead? Don't you know
you're not dead? Like, what's the big deal?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I wouldn't care. I mean the letter, like I feel
like I laugh at something like that because it would
be ridiculous, But I would be worried. I don't know
how this works when you die. But like I thought,
let's say, if you die at the hospital, do they
alert somebody that you've died? Okay, because I don't know
how that works. At first, I was thinking I could
see why people would be upset if maybe the protocol
was they alert someone I don't know how that you
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have died and then like maybe your social Security gets
cut off like things like that that could lead to
other problems down the road, because didn't we have a
story like that in the past where somebody was falsely
pronounced dead or no, somebody was using the wrong social
Security number and they thought they were dead. They entered
the wrong social Security number for a person that had died,
and then the person that was alive. All this stuff
(29:31):
started getting messed up and they couldn't get benefits anymore
and things like that.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
And I guess we did have a question about that
for I guess it would be funeral directors, like when
a person dies, because we've talked about this in several
circumstances too, where people are stealing like their dead mother's
social Security and stuff like who's when someone dies? Whose
(29:58):
responsibility is it to alert social Security that that person's dead?
Is it the funeral home? Like I don't know if
it's the funeral home, because everyone doesn't go to a
funeral home either. Just I don't know whose responsibility it
is because it can't be the hospital because people die
at home. I don't know what it is, but or
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is it just the family's responsibility, like you're supposed to
report when a person's dead. I'm not I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
When we talked about that last story, it was an
error on behalf of the funeral home that entered the
inco social Security number. Yeah, that was like months and
months and months ago, so I don't remember the specifics,
but I can understand people being worried about that. But
like to be like so in distress and upset that
you accidentally got a letter that you're dead, like you're
sitting there reading it you know you're alive.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, Just I just think, like, why would you even
think that? The first thought wasn't just like okay, this
is obviously a mistake.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I don't. I just can't.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Like this woman didn't even want to put her name
out there because she was so upset and distraw over this,
Like I she she has to be like ninety and
just like on edge about the word because she knows
it's coming soon or something.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
People are just getting their panties in a twist for
like no reason.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, that's that's what I think too.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Listen. Unacceptable that had happened, but like you're alive and
it literally didn't affect you at all.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
It was an error.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
It's just a weird it's a weird error for sure,
And I'm just I wonder, like how that happened. It
almost seems like it might have been like purposeful or
something like, because it it's not. It's if a letter
went out someone had to physically type something like that
up right, Like what a computer just glitch and all
(31:44):
of a sudden make this fake letter that says you're dead,
And like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
But they might have like templates pre generated in the
system and then they just hit like send automatically if
somebody has died. Because it also gave instructions for how
there is could deal with I guess the remainder of
their medical bills and anything else going on there. I
could see how it could happen, but like you send
it to five hundred and thirty one people, just kind
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of like how were the people selected? Was it a
specific group of people? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I would love to get a letter like that. I
would have like hung it up in my house or something.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I don't understand, Like I could foresee a lawsuit coming
out about evotional distress or some absolute bullshit like I
can't get behind it. It was an accident, relaxed, all right,
This last one's really disturbing. So last year, this woman's
thirteen year old daughter killed herself, which really surprised the
family because she didn't seem to have any indications that
she was feeling that way. And about a week after
her death, detectives got in touch with a mother and
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said that the kid was part of this extremist group
she found through roadblocks called TCC, which stands for True
Crime Community, and they are a group that glorifies school shooters,
romanticize them, obsesses with them, and they feed off each other.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, so we've talked about roadblocks before because this is
any that has a kid between the age of six
and fourteen, I'd say their kid more than likely is
either on roadblocks or has talked about roadblocks, because it's
just a really there's millions and millions of kids on
(33:16):
this worldwide. So my and I'm going to sound like
a really old person right now, because you know, when
I grew up, it was Nintendo, right, roadblocks seems at
least my understanding is that you go on Roadblocks, and
then there's like a bunch of different games within Roadblocks
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that kids could pick that they want to play, and
then they're able to play with their friends. So one
of the biggest negatives with this is I believe that
anyone could make a game on roadblocks and put it
up there for the kids to play. So there's no like,
(33:58):
it's not this all of the little games, individual games
are made by Roadblocks, they're made by users. So obviously
there's going to be a huge problem there because there's
no set of standards as to like what's acceptable and
what's not, and then you're just going to have a
bunch of people that are like trying to influence little kids.
And and we've heard about this all the time about
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like Kim Kardashian saying her son like walked into some
room on Roadblocks and there was like a sex tape
of her and stuff, and there's there's sexual trafficking on there.
There's all this crazy stuff going on on there, so
which I don't know how. I don't know how they
can monitor that, honestly, if they're letting any old person
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put stuff on, So don't you.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Think the game they could monitor it by making the
games have to be approved before they're public by somebody
that works.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
There not Yeah, and maybe maybe they are approved to
some extent, but I guess the problem is is that
when you go in these games, sometimes you could go
in like a room in a room and a room
and a room, and then that's where like the shady
thing is the kids have showed me stuff sometimes that
I'm kind of like, I don't not. I haven't seen
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any sexual stuff that I've been like what, But I
have seen some stuff that I felt like was a
little bit too scary and like like murdery kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah. I mean they were playing a game a couple
of weeks ago when I overheard her being like, oh,
don't shoot me, and I'm like, what is happening?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, And then there was this game that they were
really into a couple months called uh Dressed to Impress
on There And it was like a game where which
I thought it was cool at first, kind of like
I try to look at what they're doing on there
and the kids. You go in this room and there's
like all these things available like skirts and shirts and
(35:52):
shoes and hairstyles, and you have this avatar and you
could change they do like they do fashion shows, so
the do a theme like eighties, and you pick all
the stuff and you could change the colors of the
clothes and the hair and the makeup and all, and
then to look eighties themes. And then you do a
fashion show and and then you have your avatar walk down,
(36:13):
and then like you and your friends along with anyone
else that you're playing with, can like vote and you
could win if you're doing you know, if you got
first place or second place or whatever. But then as
that game, it was really good at first, but then
as it started having updates and stuff, it was like
the clothes were way too slutty, like it's sexy lingerie,
(36:34):
like Sabrina Carpenter, and like these games our kids are
playing these, they're not. There's no adults playing these games.
It's children.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Well there are adults plays and then well they're losers.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
So anyway, like I'm just like this is just so
inappropriate the way the girl was like. So then they
started introducing all of these poses and the poses were
like way too sexual, and I just was like, yeah,
I'm not into this anymore. And whatever, like maybe I'm
kind of a prude or whatever. But I'm just like,
I don't see why a girl needs to be wearing
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like sexy lingerie and a garter belt and thigh high
stockings at Like, my kids don't need to dress up
in avatar to look like that.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
It's just weird.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
So so with roadblocks, they're constantly saying that they're doing
all this stuff to try to make it safe for kids,
but yet every single week in the news we're talking
about something else that happened.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
They are not.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
And there's basic things they could implement, which is like,
isn't there a big thing first first of all, where
it's like they could have no friends at all, or
they can except for a request from everybody, like it's
not it can't be approved. So they could also be
approving these games to avoid situations like this, And then
they could be blocking out certain words, like they should
(37:50):
not allow any words like email addresses, phone numbers. If
they could detect that somebody's putting in an address or
saying discord with a different user name, they should be
blocking out those words. So kids cannot be taken off
of roadblocks, because that's what happened in this case. The
mom ended up finding the girls journal detailing how she
met the people from this extremist group on roadblocks, they
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encouraged her to move over to their discord page and
then she ended up following them on TikTok later. So
the point the problem with these predators is they're meeting
the children on roadblocks and then taking them off of
the app to have unmonitored conversations with them.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
So all right, So part of the problem though, is
so roadblocks, I think they're total like scumbags, and I'm
not trying to stand up for them at all, but
there has Like parents at this point, if you're buying
your kid a device like an iPad or a phone,
you have to know about this kind of stuff, and
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there's a way to avoid this, and like I know
because I do.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
It the kids.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
There's a simple thing at least if you have an
Apple device that you could put to monitor your kid's
phone or iPad, that doesn't allow them to download any
apps without your permission. So in my opinion, there's no
reason a thirteen year old has a TikTok and so
just don't let them download the app. And there's no
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reason a thirteen year old has a discord like, if
she didn't have those two apps and didn't have any
way to access them, then like this would have never
that part of it would have never happened.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
But what if she's accessing them in a friend's house.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Listen, It's completely possible that she can, because like you
still have to deal with your friend's kid, the kids
having phones that don't have any kind of limitations. It's
always a problem that a parent's going to have. But like,
as far as what's in your control of it, and
they spend the most time at your house, the most
(39:57):
control of it is to just when they want to
download an app, Like my kid wants to download an app.
They send me apps all the time. Sometimes it's like
I want to have a Hollister app so I could
look at what the new shirts are. Other times it's
like I look at these apps and I'm just and
I don't even have an example of one. But there's
often times I look at it and then I'll read
(40:19):
the ratings and it'll just say like, oh, it's it's
for fourteen plus or eighteen plus, and then.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That one said either there's this one I feel like
it's called like your Story or something like that, and
it presents as like an innocent game, but then if
you ever see the previews for it, it'll be like
I got pregnant by my sister's husband. What do I do?
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Like what?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Exactly being advertised to children through other kids games.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
And all of the apps that I see exactly, And
that's what happens because they play certain games, and then
that's how they hear about the other games and stuff
and listen, like stuff slips through the cracks all the
time because kids are smart. They like the same thing
with me. When my mom told me I couldn't watch MTV,
I went over to my friend's house and watched it.
Like kids do that. That's like normal shit. So you
(41:07):
have to try to You just have to like try
to tackle it every single time it happens. And I
feel like that's the biggest thing with Like it's just
so easy. If a kid has access to download the apps,
they could download TikTok and create themselves an account, and like,
how would you ever even know it? Yes, they could
go on their friend's phone, but that's kind of a
(41:27):
pain in the ass, and they won't be on it
anywhere near as much as they will be at your house.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
No, what's scary about this group in particular is that
they apparently encourage kids to take their own life or
the lives of others through school shootings or bombings. So
it seemed like that's the one option the girl took.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
So then it runs these groups, can't they like since the.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Police are involved now exactly, Like it's it's not that
hard to find people like there are What exactly is
because I understand what TikTok is?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
What is discord? Exactly is it?
Speaker 1 (42:04):
We've been over this a thousand times.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
It's similar to really understand it.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
It's like Reddit. It's a forum website, but specifically for gaming.
People use it for other things too, Like I think
Catmom told us on the YouTube live she uses it
to discuss books she's reading. So it's just a forum
website to talk about anything. But it's not like Reddit.
It's not monitored, so talk about anything.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
So it's because like we've been hearing that with this
with all of like school shooters and these like political
shooters and stuff, like their discord is like they're having
conversations that definitely should have been flagged by something. Some
of the stuff that some of these people are saying.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Well, Discord needs to have some responsibility too, But then
I guess if you say that, then Reddit's gonna have
to have some flagging too, And like it's just like
where do you draw the line?
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Well, uh, yeah, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I just and listen, Like I understand from this mom's perspective,
she has a thirteen year old kid, Like I said,
so many kids. I don't know what the percentage of
children that use roadblocks, but it's high. Like it's just
a lot of kids use roadblocks. You assume as a
parent that they're on a platform that's made for children,
(43:18):
that it's going to be like the most safe thing,
and they were, And her kid was introduced to all
of this stuff and is now dead. So like, of
course she wants to go after roadblocks, which she should
because I think the more people that go after roadblocks
the better.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
But I think she made it.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Very clear she doesn't want money. She just wants them
to implement the changes so this doesn't.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Happen to Yeah, I mean, like I guess my thing
is like, let roadblocks. You can't sit around and wait
for something like roadblocks to implement the changes, Like you
have to do your part as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Well, I mean, maybe the best thing ever will happen,
which is they have so many lawsuits in the next
couple of years that it will bankrupt them and then
they'll be forced to close down.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Anyway. I doubt that.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
I doubt, but I mean they make so much money.
I just can't even explain to you. I don't even
know what their numbers are. I just think if Zuckerberg
has the potential to really clamp down on children's activity
on Facebook with a Messenger, then Rollblocks, who has so
much more money for that, can do.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
It as well.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
They have the ability because anybody that could code has
the ability.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, and I mean with Facebook, it's been around for
a while for the messenger kids. I mean like the
kids were doing it during the pandemic and that's already
been five years.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Like it's been around.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
It's not like they're hiring me and they're like, all right,
code this entire gaming platform to be safe for children.
When I could do very basic stuff, like these people
are developing games, they're professional coders. They can do whatever
they want. They're choosing not to and that's the problem here.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, I mean we've had enough examples on this show
that it seems like this is intentional, which which is
just really upsetting honestly. But I mean, just I guess
the advice that I feel like I have said this
every time now because a lot of it is kids
getting recruited off of roadblocks, right, and they aren't stopping it.
(45:26):
It's happening all the time. So now, like what what
they can control?
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Do we have?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
They can just do very simple things, and I know
people can get around.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I'm like a hair away from just I never want
to be that mom that like doesn't let my kids
do what like stuff like that, because of course I
will be like.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
That with social media, I don't give a shit, but.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
I guess with roadblocks, I'm just kind of like, yeah,
I just want to let them do it and this
and that. But I'm just get every every week I'm
getting closer and closer to pulling the plug on it
because of this stuff that just frightens the hell out
of me.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
I don't blame you at all. I mean I worry
about my future of motherhood and how I'm going to
like approach this at all.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
I mean, like I luckily for me, like my kids
are are kind of like getting over roadblocks, and I
don't know if it's like the actual platform is just
fizzling out or just like my kids are getting older
and they're interested in other and other types of things
to do. Hopefully that's it. But like it's big, and
(46:33):
there's a lot of kids on there that are actually
really little, like six and seven years old on there.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
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Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're
going to talk about what appears to be the end
of the body positivity health at any size movement that
is sweeping its way through Hollywood. A United States Postal
Service worker who was found dead in a mal sorting machine,
a student who was shot by her friend while hi
on marijuana, an alarming letter that was sent out to
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patients from a hospital, and a suicide that has been
linked to an extremist group that a kid first discovered
on the popular gaming platform for kids called Roeblocks. All
that and more on today's episode. All of these Hollywood
stars like super skinny now, especially the ones that were
pushing it down our throat that it was, you know,
(01:06):
healthy to be morbidly obese.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, I guess the question coming up now is with
this new rise in ozepic and gop one use in general,
is it the new body positivity movement to be open
about using weight loss drugs and getting plastic surgery or
are these people just adapting to the same old Hollywood standards.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It's what do you think the same old Hollywood standards. Now,
like think about this, like most right now, it was
epic's expensive for a lot of people, Like a lot
or those types of drugs could be over one thousand
dollars a month. I know that they're trying to make
it cheaper, but as of this moment, it's not cheap
for everyone. And then on top of that, a lot
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of people are having a hard time even having access
to these medications who need it for diabetes, who need
it for diabetes, but like because everybody wants them and
there's just not enough of it, so right there, it's
just like unrealistic for the average person to be doing
such a thing. And then you have the other thing
(02:11):
with the plastic surgeries and stuff, because that's the newest
thing that every single person has this special surgery. Like
Chris Jenner and all these people get these crazy face
surgeries done and they look so much younger, which I
actually would like to see what it looks like in
real life, because who knows what it looks like with
(02:32):
all these weird filters that they use and stuff. But
didn't you just send me an article that her facelift
was like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars minimum. Okay,
so again for us regular people living in the verbs,
like that's that's usually a couple years salary for a person,
(02:53):
like for their entire year salary. Again another unrealistic thing.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So it's like.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
A whole family's household and more for a facelift, I know.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
And it sucks for us because they're all gonna be
eighty years old looking like they're thirty, and the regular
people are just gonna be looking like they're their age.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I mean, maybe this is my hot take. I don't
think any of these people look good.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Some of them look good, come on.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Nancy Lohan, Ann Hathaway chef's kids that they look amazes.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
But other do you think they went to the same surgeon,
because like they have a similar.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
This surgeon whose name by the way, he's becoming a
celebrity in his own right for his work, Steve Levine,
he's who's doing all these people.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
He is theirs.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I think he did theirs and Chris Jenners and everybody's.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Because like I might actually sellmont of my kids so
I could get not just too good, but it's insane, seriously,
like they're they're like Anne Hathaway man she looks she
looks so good, just like and she I feel like,
I feel like she doesn't look like she has anything done.
And Lindsay lohand too just it's like a like just
(04:05):
like refreshed. Look they look so good. But I don't know,
like I've been seeing all these videos go around with
Chris Jenner and people showing what she really looks like
when the pictures aren't filtered, and I mean it is
an improvement from what it was, but also it's just like, Okay,
it doesn't look as good as they're trying to portray
(04:26):
because a lot of it has to do with like
the skin texture and everything else too, and they're doing
that like.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Blur filter whatever it's called.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
That you look like face tuning a lot, and like,
this is gonna be very catty five of me for
those people that don't understand that reference. On our YouTube
live every Friday, the Last five, which really ends up
being the last like twenty minutes episode, every week, we
do a segment called Caddy five where we air a grievances,
mostly with celebrities and the dumb things and it like it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Usually our Caddy five usually has nothing to do with
medicine or dying. It's just it's just being total just bitches.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
And just gossiping and shit talking. Yeah, so this is
gonna be very catty five with me. But like this morning,
for example, I saw a picture of Bethany Frankel with
a wig on, like Michelle Pifer, and you're just like no,
And it said it was for her fifty five or
her fifty fifth birthday. And in the comment I had
to go to the comments because I knew everybody was
thinking the same as me. She looks eighty years old, like,
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and everybody in the comments was like, she's only fifty five.
And these people are getting so much work done that
they're looking even older than they want to look.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Are you so out of tune with the world that,
like you didn't know that that was coming? Think about this,
Like Michelle Pfeiffer is like like a gorgeous specimen, right,
She's a fine specimen of a person. Like why would
(05:57):
Bethany Frankel ever try to mimic her? Look, it's never
going to happen and people are going to destroy you,
Like why don't you think? Why why am I going
to try to dress and emulate a super beautiful, perfect person.
When I don't look that way, you're just gonna get teased,
like you're walking right into it.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Because it's the genius of Bethany Franco where now people
are talking about her right, because he's either one of
those right.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
She just doesn't even care if it's negative or positive.
She just wants people to talk about her.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
She doesn't. And she was on a podcast I listened
to last week, and this the amount of times this
lady seriously said, well, I invented that, And I'm like,
shut the fuck up.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Like you so annoy anyway, But I've said it before too,
And like, there are a lot of people my age,
like I see Alex Cooper, the call her Daddy Girl,
Alex Earl, the influencer, Brooks Nader the model.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
They are younger than me and they look ten years
older than me because of the amount of work these
people get done, and not just plants or surgery. I'm
talking about just like simply injections what they're doing. And
I don't understand why you're twenty eight and you want
to look forty five.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I don't know, Like we need to talk to a
plastic surgeon about this, and we could talk talk to
doctor Dimitri too about the injections, because I do find
when you look at Anne Hathaway and Lindsay Lohan, you're
just like, Okay, this was done right, and it's it's
(07:27):
like the true it's just the true power of of
what cosmetic surgery could really do to make somebody look better.
But why doesn't it happen more often? That's I guess
that's what my I mean. I guess you could say
Lindsay Lohan started out as a very beautiful person, but
(07:49):
she got kind of haggard because of her whole like
what she was doing whatever was she was not treating
her body will and and Anne Hathaway never looked bad,
So I mean maybe they were just starting out from
because like really with Lindsay Lohan, if she just sobered
up in stuff like she would, she would look better anyway.
(08:10):
So I guess I guess really it's like they were
starting off at a very good place to begin with,
maybe because I think some of these people have not
that they're not that they're unattractive, they have they just
have different a different face what you would consider to
be like the standard, and they try to make it
the standard. And that's never gonna work maybe, and that's
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why it looks unusual.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I actually wonder. I don't know for a fact that
that guy did Lindsay Lohans, and she was living in
Dubai for a while. I wonder if she got it
done over there.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I oh care.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I just wish she would call me and tell me,
because I'll be on the first plane out. Mother knows
death is gonna have to close down for a couple
at least audio only.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
We've only ever gone audio only an emergency technical difficult
or the week of my surgery and the week of
your surgery.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
So yeah, I should have done it the week of
my surgery because I was deformed looking, but whatever, shut up?
So so yeah, I just I am curious. And a
lot of it too has to do. I guess people's
face looks now, especially in Hollywood. If people are taking ozempic,
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that's a whole other, a whole other set of issues.
We got to have doctor Dimitrion because I'm sure he's
having a lot of patients come in that are taking
this medication that are starting to look old because they're
losing so much subcutaneous fat, And like how that's getting
repaired with cosmetic injections.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, I'm interested in that. And then you know, some
of these celebrities are defending it, saying it's for health reasons,
and I think we can see that in some people
that were morbidly obese and have slimmed down.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah, but I just am kind of salty about it
because people were trying to cancel me years ago because
I was saying that it wasn't good to be obese,
it was not healthy. Remember when Cosmopolitan put out that
whole like Healthy at any Side and had a morbidly
obese person on the cover and was just trying they
were like trying to gaslight us into thinking that these
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people are totally healthy and their blood works healthy and stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
And I was just like, no, it's.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Not it's not about like for what you're trying to
say though, which like every time we talk about obesity
we get nasty gram so I'll be prepared for the
one that's gonna come after this episode for example, right,
But what you're trying to say is you don't give
a shit what the person looks like physically. You're saying,
like they're insides are not healthy.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
I don't give a shit, like I don't. I wouldn't
consider myself to have like any kind of a like
body that anybody could want. But internally it's it's okay,
Like you know what I mean. I mean, I'm just
saying from my experience with autopsy and stuff, like when
you look that way from the outside, it's because the
inside is covered with fat, and you don't want your
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organs covered with fat, because you see that more often
in people who die when they're young. That's just like
a fact. Sorry, I'm actually listen. I'm anti ozembic by
any means. Like, there's definitely people that use it. I'm
one hundred percent anti against it. That people who are
trying to lose ten or fifteen pounds, I think it's ridiculous.
(11:30):
But like Lizzo is a prime example of someone that
she needed to lose probably over one hundred pounds if
not more. Like, really, that's a lot for someone to do,
and it feels overwhelming and it's very hard, and I
think that for a person like her, I'm glad she's
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taking it because that's what that drug was meant to do.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Well. Even Amy Schumer too, they quoted her in this article.
She said I'm proud of how I've looked always, but
I've been working to be pain free, and I finally am.
My end of metriosis is better, my back is healing,
I no longer have Cushing syndrome, so my face went
back to normal as well. So I do think there's
a bunch of celebrities using.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
But she loves herself so much that she deleted every
single picture off of social media for.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Which she looked like before. It is hypocritical. And then,
of course, I think the most shocking one in the
last couple of weeks was this picture of Megan Trainer
that was going around because she was always a curvy
or heavier girl, and now she's, you know, clearly done
something that she's very thin, her face is more defined.
I just don't see why people care. So it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It's funny because of course all these people are like,
you look terrible, and then she puts out a statement
and she's like, no, I look really good. I actually
think she looks amazing, But like I thought she was,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I just think I don't know whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I think she looks good, and I thought she looked
good before. I thought she looked a very beautiful woman,
and I don't. I just think there's like a huge
difference between someone like Megan and her saying you know,
body like a body positivity, because she wasn't really she
was just like a little bit thicker and Lizzo being
(13:11):
hundreds of pounds overweight, you know what I mean, Like, well, yeah,
just because And I always used to get mad about
it because that message if I could say, any any
one demographic of people that you would see would die
young would be women like between my age and like sixty,
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just like so many dead women that were just fat.
And that's what I correlated to, just so you see
the reality of that with your job, where I think
people don't and then they want to assume if you
challenge that, that you're saying somebody's not attractive, and that's
not the purpose. We don't care what people look like.
It's about being healthy on the inside. And there's really
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skinny people that aren't healthy on the inside either, So
it goes both ways.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And listen, you could arg that people that are on
this drug are not all healthier either.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I mean, it's exactly what I was just about to say.
There's people borderlining anorexia with this drug.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, and there's people that have I guess that's another
one of the concerns is that there are people who
have been struggling with eating disorders who are now taking
this drug too so and and like I just feel
like everybody is jumping on it so hard and and.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Like people need to slow their role a little bit. There.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
There's definitely research on this type of drug because it's
been out for a while as far as a diabetes drug,
which is why they're able to know certain side effects
that happen and stuff that commonly happen in people, and
even worse things that could happen, like thyroid cancer and
(14:51):
things like that. I don't know, it's just I just
think everybody's so quick to go on it and you
don't really realize that you will likely have to be
on it for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
And because if you go off it.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Your old ways and your old eating habits and everything
are going to come back. And I'm sorry, but like
so another thing that we do in our YouTube live
is like we do conspiracy theories. We talk about at
the end of the episode two, just like Outreach it
gets Wild, we were talking about like the moon landing
and suff last week. But like, so conspira what is it?
(15:35):
What does Emma call it? Over time conspiracy or whatever
she calls it? But yeah, like talk about conspiracy theory.
Does anybody just sit there and think, like, is there
a reason that this drug is getting pushed out that
every single person that takes it that gets this result
of looking better in their opinion, that they need to
(15:59):
be on it for the rest of their life. Like
to me, I'm just kind of like nobody's questioning that
a drug company is trying to get people on a
drug for the rest of their life, that they're going
to make trillions and trillions of dollars off people.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
But isn't this like a little death becomes her, Like
all these people are taking this magic potion to be
so beautiful and then when they can't have access to
it anymore where times start running out, they literally start disintegrating.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
It's going, Yeah, they're gonna start like chipping off and
having to get carry spray paint with them and stuff.
I don't know, just I just I just think that
like people need to slow their roll a little bit.
I'm not saying that it's bad, but I'm also not
I I also don't person I don't believe that it's
a miracle drug. I think a miracle drug would be
(16:49):
that one that you could take and it's forever. It's forever,
you know, Oh, you're not going to eat as much anymore,
and it'll just help curve your cravings and stuff them.
Putting you on medication for the rest of your life
is not any kind of miracle drug in my opinion,
it's kind of insane.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
A USPS employee has died after getting stuck in a
mail sorting machine at a distribution center.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
So this story is so messed up because you're at
work and this guy. Nobody at work knew he was
missing or anything. The only reason that they found him
is because his fiance was like, he didn't come home
(17:34):
from work, where is he? She went there, She goes there.
They end up calling the fire department. They look around
and they find him in this sorting machine and said
he had been dead for hours, like what is to
eight hours, which is like essentially, you know, a work
shift almost What happened that this guy got stuck in
(17:56):
a machine and there was like no alarms, there was
no nobody knows what happened. Nobody saw anything. There was
no clocking in or out, no reports of a supervisor, nothing.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, that is like totally weird. And then they said
he was a maintenance man. So I'm wondering if there
was an issue with the machine and he was fixing
it and maybe that's why an alarmed. I would assume
these machines have alarmed for something like this, because I
can't imagine this is the first time something like this
has happened.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
So they told Difiance that the autopsy's going to take
a couple months, and that's because obviously just because toxicology
takes so long, and they're just an investigation too, because
first they're gonna want to look at the body and
do the autopsy and do toxicology to make sure that
he wasn't intoxicated while operating the machines, because that could
obviously affect how somebody operates the machine. So they'll look
(18:49):
for illegal substances. But also have you ever taken like
benadrill or something and it's like, don't operate machinery when
on this medication.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Uh So, yeah, when I take benadrill, it's like terrible,
like so drugged and can't.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Do it any Yeah, so they'll check for all that
stuff with the toxicology, and then they're gonna check to
see what has caused a manner of death work. They're
gonna see if he died from like if it was
truly an accident and he was squeezed in the machine,
because you know, they're gonna have to do an investigation
too with the actual machine to see if it was malfunctioning.
And sometimes like with certain machines like that, like if
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a person has a scarf on, it's like less likely
with with a man because sometimes they usually don't have
longer hair. But you hear about people putting their hair
and ponytails and stuff like they could get grabbed into
the machine sometimes. So they'll just try to do an
investigation to see, like what how the guy ended up there.
(19:46):
I mean, there's always the potential of suicide and homicide too,
even though rare, like did somebody kill him and shove
them in there like it did? The possibilities of what
happened we were endless. It's most it's most likely an
accidental thing, but you don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Well, the fiance is upset too, because they issued a
statement and said, Oh, we're saddened by the loss of
our employee, but don't worry. The facility is still operating.
And she's saying it was just disrespectful and didn't even
mention his name or that he was an Air Force
veteran or anything, and it is a little disrespectful, Like, Okay,
we probably assumed that the facility is still working, so
(20:23):
chill out.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Is anyone worried? Like who is actually waiting for something
to calm?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
In the mail me?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
I love the mail a lot. It's the last old
timey thing we have. I didn't sign up like all
of you guys did to get the notice every day.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
What's kind I don't look at it.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I'm just like it's the last surprise I have, like
every day. I think Ricky knows is more than anybody
can see. He lives here obviously, but like it is
like my last old world excitement that I don't know
what's gonna be advice, What don't.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You get I get like that yes for casinos, and
like shit that I want, like I throw in the trash,
and and like coupons to get my roof replaced.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yesterday I got eight pieces of mail and they were
all spam, which sucks, but like sometimes you know, Devin
will send me a little thank you card or something
and I think it's so sweet and I like that,
so like.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Don't worry, the mail is still going. Sorry I wasn't.
I wasn't worried.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I use like other services that are actually more reliable. Sorry, Mike,
I know you're listening. We love our mailman so much. Well,
it's my mailman, but Maria is just of association because
she used to live here. But he listen, he's a listener.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I'm not mailman.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
You don't mean to be talking shit on your organization.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I used to have this mail person that would walk
through my backyard, which inappropriate, and she would scare get
shit out of it?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Inappropriate.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Who can listen if you have to be outside all
because I'm not old and rain and shit. You're not
going to just let your mail person like cross your lawn.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
No, because hoose in.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Your house, like drinking your hot chocolate and watching them
walk through the snow and you're judging them because they're
walking across your lawn.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
No, because it doesn't make sense to go it's the
longer way to go through my backyard. They get to
wear my mailboxes. So it didn't make sense. And I
was like editing at the dining room table all the time.
And then she'd walk by and scare the shit out
of me because we're not prepared for somebody to be
in my backyard. Oh God, But if it made sense,
I don't care. But it didn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
All right.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
A twenty six year old pharmacy student was shot by
her friend after they smoked weed together, and the friend
became paranoid thinking that she was going to be stabbed.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
So we've talked about this several times on this show
about how it doesn't happen to all people, but some
people when they smoke weed, it induces psychosis in them,
especially if they have an underlying mental health condition or
a family history of an underlying mental health condition. So
(22:48):
I guess this friend had went over her house to
help her cotter dog's hair, and the other the woman
who killed her, ended up thinking that she was holding
these scissors cutting the dog's head and thought that she
was going to stab heish she was she was like
having a like a paranoid hallucination that she that she
(23:10):
interpreted that her friend was going to stab her with
these scissors she was cutting the dog's hair with.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
But like, where did the gun come from? Did she
just have it in her purse?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Or was the dog cut in her room? She had
it in her room.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
But wasn't she at the girl's house that she shot?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
No, I don't know. I thought that she was at
her house. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I thought that the pharmacy students the one that went
over her friend's house to cut the dog's hair.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Okay, but regardless, So she thinks she's gonna get stabbed,
so she shoots her and claims she didn't mean to,
and then she also shot herself accidentally in the stomach.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I don't know what the story is.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, she's been charged with first degree reckless homicide. This
story's just said. I mean, this girl that was the
student was in her last year of pharmacy school. She
was hoping to move to Florida. She just celebrated her birthday.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
I mean, on one hand, or like, was it really
the weed that just made her like go nuts? Or
is she just using that as an excuse? Like did
they get in a fight, did something happen?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I mean, I know I defend weed a lot. When
you challenge it, and I will say, like I did
definitely do see people that have these issues while smoking,
but that seems like another drug was involved or she
had a serious issue going on, and like you're saying
was using it.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
There could have been too, because that's I was thinking
that was a possibility too. So in the investigation, they'll
check the drugs themselves if there's anything left over to
see if they were actually and where they got it
from too. But we know that the weed stores now,
I mean, they sell pretty potent marijuana, so it's just
(24:53):
enough to cause people to have problems if they're going
to have problems from it, totally.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Do you think like.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
One thing that I noticed that I mean, like I
don't want to get into this conversation again, but just like,
there are so many weed stores. It's to the point
where this week Atlantic City was like, you can't put
any more weed stores.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
There's too many.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Because they're making a ton of money and I think
they get extra taxes on them, so they're making the
towns a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
It's just like.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
From my house to your house, which is what eighteen
minutes there seriously is like ten of them. It's it's
just like, really it just seems out of and listen,
like I directly correlate it with how everybody sucks at
driving now because everybody's high. That's my that's my personal
scientific studies.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I read an article a couple of years ago that
when weed was made legal in Colorado, it like single
handedly changed the economy there because.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Of the tax revenue it was bringing in.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, so I think I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Sure, I mean, like they say that, but and I'm
sure it does. But like, who's it making money? Because
it's and improve my town at all or anywhere around here.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Some town sucks like you. I live in a way
shittier town than you, And I think my like streets
look nicer. My trash comes on time every week.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Listen, it's a soft subject, so don't don't don't bring
it up my street, please, my my.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
My street looks like.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
That. The the like the pavement or the street itself,
the asphal it just looks like such shit. Yeah, like
it like ruins the vibe of the street. It's terrible.
Just like whatever, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go
on a rant about that because any of my neighbors
that are listening will one hundred percent get pissed off
too at the same time about it. But all right,
(26:43):
so so yeah, so uh Unfortunately, like we'll have to
hear more about this case because I feel like the
investigation in this case is really important because obviously, like
people lie and say, oh, I heard voices and I
was doing that because they're trying to get out of trouble,
So we don't really know exactly what happened. This episode
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last month, over five hundred patients were shocked to receive
a letter stating they were dead despite very much being alive.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
So I read this article and some of the people
who are interviewed are saying it was just very shocking
and upsetting.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I'm just like, why you're not dead? Don't you know
you're not dead? Like, what's the big deal?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I wouldn't care. I mean the letter, like I feel
like I laugh at something like that because it would
be ridiculous, But I would be worried. I don't know
how this works when you die. But like I thought,
let's say, if you die at the hospital, do they
alert somebody that you've died? Okay, because I don't know
how that works. At first, I was thinking I could
see why people would be upset if maybe the protocol
was they alert someone I don't know how that you
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have died and then like maybe your social Security gets
cut off like things like that that could lead to
other problems down the road, because didn't we have a
story like that in the past where somebody was falsely
pronounced dead or no, somebody was using the wrong social
Security number and they thought they were dead. They entered
the wrong social Security number for a person that had died,
and then the person that was alive. All this stuff
(29:31):
started getting messed up and they couldn't get benefits anymore
and things like that.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
And I guess we did have a question about that
for I guess it would be funeral directors, like when
a person dies, because we've talked about this in several
circumstances too, where people are stealing like their dead mother's
social Security and stuff like who's when someone dies? Whose
(29:58):
responsibility is it to alert social Security that that person's dead?
Is it the funeral home? Like I don't know if
it's the funeral home, because everyone doesn't go to a
funeral home either. Just I don't know whose responsibility it
is because it can't be the hospital because people die
at home. I don't know what it is, but or
(30:19):
is it just the family's responsibility, like you're supposed to
report when a person's dead. I'm not I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I feel like.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
When we talked about that last story, it was an
error on behalf of the funeral home that entered the
inco social Security number. Yeah, that was like months and
months and months ago, so I don't remember the specifics,
but I can understand people being worried about that. But
like to be like so in distress and upset that
you accidentally got a letter that you're dead, like you're
sitting there reading it you know you're alive.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, Just I just think, like, why would you even
think that? The first thought wasn't just like okay, this
is obviously a mistake.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I don't. I just can't.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Like this woman didn't even want to put her name
out there because she was so upset and distraw over this,
Like I she she has to be like ninety and
just like on edge about the word because she knows
it's coming soon or something.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
People are just getting their panties in a twist for
like no reason.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Yeah, that's that's what I think too.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Listen. Unacceptable that had happened, but like you're alive and
it literally didn't affect you at all.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
It was an error.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
It's just a weird it's a weird error for sure,
And I'm just I wonder, like how that happened. It
almost seems like it might have been like purposeful or
something like, because it it's not. It's if a letter
went out someone had to physically type something like that
up right, Like what a computer just glitch and all
(31:44):
of a sudden make this fake letter that says you're dead,
And like I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
But they might have like templates pre generated in the
system and then they just hit like send automatically if
somebody has died. Because it also gave instructions for how
there is could deal with I guess the remainder of
their medical bills and anything else going on there. I
could see how it could happen, but like you send
it to five hundred and thirty one people, just kind
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of like how were the people selected? Was it a
specific group of people? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I would love to get a letter like that. I
would have like hung it up in my house or something.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I don't understand, Like I could foresee a lawsuit coming
out about evotional distress or some absolute bullshit like I
can't get behind it. It was an accident, relaxed, all right,
This last one's really disturbing. So last year, this woman's
thirteen year old daughter killed herself, which really surprised the
family because she didn't seem to have any indications that
she was feeling that way. And about a week after
her death, detectives got in touch with a mother and
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said that the kid was part of this extremist group
she found through roadblocks called TCC, which stands for True
Crime Community, and they are a group that glorifies school shooters,
romanticize them, obsesses with them, and they feed off each other.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, so we've talked about roadblocks before because this is
any that has a kid between the age of six
and fourteen, I'd say their kid more than likely is
either on roadblocks or has talked about roadblocks, because it's
just a really there's millions and millions of kids on
(33:16):
this worldwide. So my and I'm going to sound like
a really old person right now, because you know, when
I grew up, it was Nintendo, right, roadblocks seems at
least my understanding is that you go on Roadblocks, and
then there's like a bunch of different games within Roadblocks
(33:38):
that kids could pick that they want to play, and
then they're able to play with their friends. So one
of the biggest negatives with this is I believe that
anyone could make a game on roadblocks and put it
up there for the kids to play. So there's no like,
(33:58):
it's not this all of the little games, individual games
are made by Roadblocks, they're made by users. So obviously
there's going to be a huge problem there because there's
no set of standards as to like what's acceptable and
what's not, and then you're just going to have a
bunch of people that are like trying to influence little kids.
And and we've heard about this all the time about
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like Kim Kardashian saying her son like walked into some
room on Roadblocks and there was like a sex tape
of her and stuff, and there's there's sexual trafficking on there.
There's all this crazy stuff going on on there, so
which I don't know how. I don't know how they
can monitor that, honestly, if they're letting any old person
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put stuff on, So don't you.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Think the game they could monitor it by making the
games have to be approved before they're public by somebody
that works.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
There not Yeah, and maybe maybe they are approved to
some extent, but I guess the problem is is that
when you go in these games, sometimes you could go
in like a room in a room and a room
and a room, and then that's where like the shady
thing is the kids have showed me stuff sometimes that
I'm kind of like, I don't not. I haven't seen
(35:13):
any sexual stuff that I've been like what, But I
have seen some stuff that I felt like was a
little bit too scary and like like murdery kind of weird.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah. I mean they were playing a game a couple
of weeks ago when I overheard her being like, oh,
don't shoot me, and I'm like, what is happening?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, And then there was this game that they were
really into a couple months called uh Dressed to Impress
on There And it was like a game where which
I thought it was cool at first, kind of like
I try to look at what they're doing on there
and the kids. You go in this room and there's
like all these things available like skirts and shirts and
(35:52):
shoes and hairstyles, and you have this avatar and you
could change they do like they do fashion shows, so
the do a theme like eighties, and you pick all
the stuff and you could change the colors of the
clothes and the hair and the makeup and all, and
then to look eighties themes. And then you do a
fashion show and and then you have your avatar walk down,
(36:13):
and then like you and your friends along with anyone
else that you're playing with, can like vote and you
could win if you're doing you know, if you got
first place or second place or whatever. But then as
that game, it was really good at first, but then
as it started having updates and stuff, it was like
the clothes were way too slutty, like it's sexy lingerie,
(36:34):
like Sabrina Carpenter, and like these games our kids are
playing these, they're not. There's no adults playing these games.
It's children.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Well there are adults plays and then well they're losers.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
So anyway, like I'm just like this is just so
inappropriate the way the girl was like. So then they
started introducing all of these poses and the poses were
like way too sexual, and I just was like, yeah,
I'm not into this anymore. And whatever, like maybe I'm
kind of a prude or whatever. But I'm just like,
I don't see why a girl needs to be wearing
(37:09):
like sexy lingerie and a garter belt and thigh high
stockings at Like, my kids don't need to dress up
in avatar to look like that.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
It's just weird.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
So so with roadblocks, they're constantly saying that they're doing
all this stuff to try to make it safe for kids,
but yet every single week in the news we're talking
about something else that happened.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
They are not.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
And there's basic things they could implement, which is like,
isn't there a big thing first first of all, where
it's like they could have no friends at all, or
they can except for a request from everybody, like it's
not it can't be approved. So they could also be
approving these games to avoid situations like this, And then
they could be blocking out certain words, like they should
(37:50):
not allow any words like email addresses, phone numbers. If
they could detect that somebody's putting in an address or
saying discord with a different user name, they should be
blocking out those words. So kids cannot be taken off
of roadblocks, because that's what happened in this case. The
mom ended up finding the girls journal detailing how she
met the people from this extremist group on roadblocks, they
(38:12):
encouraged her to move over to their discord page and
then she ended up following them on TikTok later. So
the point the problem with these predators is they're meeting
the children on roadblocks and then taking them off of
the app to have unmonitored conversations with them.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
So all right, So part of the problem though, is
so roadblocks, I think they're total like scumbags, and I'm
not trying to stand up for them at all, but
there has Like parents at this point, if you're buying
your kid a device like an iPad or a phone,
you have to know about this kind of stuff, and
(38:53):
there's a way to avoid this, and like I know
because I do.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
It the kids.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
There's a simple thing at least if you have an
Apple device that you could put to monitor your kid's
phone or iPad, that doesn't allow them to download any
apps without your permission. So in my opinion, there's no
reason a thirteen year old has a TikTok and so
just don't let them download the app. And there's no
(39:21):
reason a thirteen year old has a discord like, if
she didn't have those two apps and didn't have any
way to access them, then like this would have never
that part of it would have never happened.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
But what if she's accessing them in a friend's house.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Listen, It's completely possible that she can, because like you
still have to deal with your friend's kid, the kids
having phones that don't have any kind of limitations. It's
always a problem that a parent's going to have. But like,
as far as what's in your control of it, and
they spend the most time at your house, the most
(39:57):
control of it is to just when they want to
download an app, Like my kid wants to download an app.
They send me apps all the time. Sometimes it's like
I want to have a Hollister app so I could
look at what the new shirts are. Other times it's
like I look at these apps and I'm just and
I don't even have an example of one. But there's
often times I look at it and then I'll read
(40:19):
the ratings and it'll just say like, oh, it's it's
for fourteen plus or eighteen plus, and then.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
That one said either there's this one I feel like
it's called like your Story or something like that, and
it presents as like an innocent game, but then if
you ever see the previews for it, it'll be like
I got pregnant by my sister's husband. What do I do?
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Like what?
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Exactly being advertised to children through other kids games.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
And all of the apps that I see exactly, And
that's what happens because they play certain games, and then
that's how they hear about the other games and stuff
and listen, like stuff slips through the cracks all the
time because kids are smart. They like the same thing
with me. When my mom told me I couldn't watch MTV,
I went over to my friend's house and watched it.
Like kids do that. That's like normal shit. So you
(41:07):
have to try to You just have to like try
to tackle it every single time it happens. And I
feel like that's the biggest thing with Like it's just
so easy. If a kid has access to download the apps,
they could download TikTok and create themselves an account, and like,
how would you ever even know it? Yes, they could
go on their friend's phone, but that's kind of a
(41:27):
pain in the ass, and they won't be on it
anywhere near as much as they will be at your house.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
No, what's scary about this group in particular is that
they apparently encourage kids to take their own life or
the lives of others through school shootings or bombings. So
it seemed like that's the one option the girl took.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
So then it runs these groups, can't they like since the.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Police are involved now exactly, Like it's it's not that
hard to find people like there are What exactly is
because I understand what TikTok is?
Speaker 3 (42:02):
What is discord? Exactly is it?
Speaker 1 (42:04):
We've been over this a thousand times.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
It's similar to really understand it.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
It's like Reddit. It's a forum website, but specifically for gaming.
People use it for other things too, Like I think
Catmom told us on the YouTube live she uses it
to discuss books she's reading. So it's just a forum
website to talk about anything. But it's not like Reddit.
It's not monitored, so talk about anything.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
So it's because like we've been hearing that with this
with all of like school shooters and these like political
shooters and stuff, like their discord is like they're having
conversations that definitely should have been flagged by something. Some
of the stuff that some of these people are saying.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Well, Discord needs to have some responsibility too, But then
I guess if you say that, then Reddit's gonna have
to have some flagging too, And like it's just like
where do you draw the line?
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Well, uh, yeah, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I just and listen, Like I understand from this mom's perspective,
she has a thirteen year old kid, Like I said,
so many kids. I don't know what the percentage of
children that use roadblocks, but it's high. Like it's just
a lot of kids use roadblocks. You assume as a
parent that they're on a platform that's made for children,
(43:18):
that it's going to be like the most safe thing,
and they were, And her kid was introduced to all
of this stuff and is now dead. So like, of
course she wants to go after roadblocks, which she should
because I think the more people that go after roadblocks
the better.
Speaker 3 (43:34):
But I think she made it.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Very clear she doesn't want money. She just wants them
to implement the changes so this doesn't.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Happen to Yeah, I mean, like I guess my thing
is like, let roadblocks. You can't sit around and wait
for something like roadblocks to implement the changes, Like you
have to do your part as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Well, I mean, maybe the best thing ever will happen,
which is they have so many lawsuits in the next
couple of years that it will bankrupt them and then
they'll be forced to close down.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Anyway. I doubt that.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
I doubt, but I mean they make so much money.
I just can't even explain to you. I don't even
know what their numbers are. I just think if Zuckerberg
has the potential to really clamp down on children's activity
on Facebook with a Messenger, then Rollblocks, who has so
much more money for that, can do.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
It as well.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
They have the ability because anybody that could code has
the ability.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, and I mean with Facebook, it's been around for
a while for the messenger kids. I mean like the
kids were doing it during the pandemic and that's already
been five years.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
Like it's been around.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
It's not like they're hiring me and they're like, all right,
code this entire gaming platform to be safe for children.
When I could do very basic stuff, like these people
are developing games, they're professional coders. They can do whatever
they want. They're choosing not to and that's the problem here.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
Yeah, I mean we've had enough examples on this show
that it seems like this is intentional, which which is
just really upsetting honestly. But I mean, just I guess
the advice that I feel like I have said this
every time now because a lot of it is kids
getting recruited off of roadblocks, right, and they aren't stopping it.
(45:26):
It's happening all the time. So now, like what what
they can control?
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Do we have?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
They can just do very simple things, and I know
people can get around.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I'm like a hair away from just I never want
to be that mom that like doesn't let my kids
do what like stuff like that, because of course I
will be like.
Speaker 3 (45:46):
That with social media, I don't give a shit, but.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
I guess with roadblocks, I'm just kind of like, yeah,
I just want to let them do it and this
and that. But I'm just get every every week I'm
getting closer and closer to pulling the plug on it
because of this stuff that just frightens the hell out
of me.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
I don't blame you at all. I mean I worry
about my future of motherhood and how I'm going to
like approach this at all.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
I mean, like I luckily for me, like my kids
are are kind of like getting over roadblocks, and I
don't know if it's like the actual platform is just
fizzling out or just like my kids are getting older
and they're interested in other and other types of things
to do. Hopefully that's it. But like it's big, and
(46:33):
there's a lot of kids on there that are actually
really little, like six and seven years old on there.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
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