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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What would you talk about on your on your podcast.
Firm Elvis presents fifteen minute morning show podcast with your
regulars in the house. There's Gandhi and Scary and Scotty
B and Froggy's here, and there's Danielle, and there's Nate
(00:23):
and our guests are here. But I want to get
all the names of your stuff. Where the fund did
there stuff go? Thank you the authors of the book
stuff they don't want you to know, and of course
the podcast with the same name, Noel Brown and Ben
(00:44):
Bolinger here, Thanks for coming in. Thanks for having Nolan
and Ben. I couldn't remember the name of the book.
It's it's a mouthful, especially when you say at the
acronym std w y t K fast. Yeah. You know.
Uh when we we got started off then uh are
at our pal Matt Frederick, who sends his regards to everybody.
(01:05):
He uh we we thought we would be fired within
two weeks of creating this show. Uh. And if we
could do it all again right, no, uh, we would
have picked a buch shorter name because stuff they don't
want you to know just cost us all so much
time to hear. I like it too. Thank you. If
(01:26):
it's too much for you to figure out, then maybe
it's not for you. It's also very clear what the
podcast is. I think keep it. We also need the
book the same thing because for that very reason, before
we get into the juice of your podcast in your book,
let's talk about the art of podcasts now. In choosing it,
because I gotta come up with a podcast soon as
you know, um, and choosing the name for a podcast.
(01:51):
It should shouldn't just be what it is it rather
than some weird like word that may or may not
mean any saying yes, yes, I I like the idea
of I like the idea of kiss. You know, keep
it simple, stupid on some of these things. Right, Sometimes
you'll hear someone like fall in love with the word
(02:14):
and they'll say they'll say, they'll say, well, this this
podcast is entirely about my opinion of movies from uh
teen seventy three for some reason, that's the hard cut
off specific right right, And I'm like, hey, well, what's
the name of Italy? And they're like, it's called aggressively
Saturday nine? Yeah? Why why right? Why here? Guys? Yeah,
(02:37):
you know, I'm glad they named it that, so I
know what not to listen to. Yes, just so think
about it. Even like the little tile, you know what
they call in the industry they call the little art.
They call it a tile. When you look at these
environments like iTunes or stitch or whatever, you're looking at
a sea of these things. So you better be clear
visually and the name better really quickly giving an idea
of what you're getting into. Otherwise you're just gonna move on.
(03:02):
That makes sense because there's so many things to choose from,
and if it doesn't hit you like right away, interest
you your life to move on. If I could go
back years ago and just get every single one word name,
I would, you know what I mean, I'd go up.
I'd be like, whoops, is a good one? Right then?
You know who. I don't know whether there's a podcast
(03:24):
called yes with an exclamation point, but that was a
great idea. Risk Actually, like the game No, risk is great.
It's a storytelling. I gotta say, I heard your previous
segment when we're talking about the game of Life Definite
Little Cars Life Little Yeah, Yeah, yeah, we were we
were fighting about that in the green room that you
described it as your first art role playing games. Yeah,
very much so. Like, oh my gosh, it was after uh,
(03:47):
let's see right now. Oh gosh, yeah, just drag you know,
the cinema of direction with the role playing, like you
know those fuzzies or whatever they are. But you can
also come up with the name for a podcast that's
sort of leading you to the meat and potatoes of
(04:10):
the podcast. Mine would be Somebody Farted like that, it's
really a podcast. I would you could fill in the place.
It would be a podcast about someone did something. It's
kind of a mystery who it was. Here's we figured
out who did it? Can I say? Since you brought
up the furries. One of my favorite bonkers conspiracy theory
of late um, and this is a good example of
(04:32):
how these things get started, is that they're putting litter
boxes in the schools. Can't take their cast yes, because
it makes it crazy. It's a manufactured problem, um, and
it gives politicians a thing to solve that doesn't exist
in the first place. Well wait, I saw a special
on television about it the other day. Wait if it
(04:53):
was special. I believe there were a couple of teachers
that said that they would get in trouble from the
parents if they didn't allow the kids to wear the
tails and eat out of the dish bowl on the flooring.
Is actually really sad, like were the real reason, thank you? Yeah,
(05:17):
school shooter situations. Shooter situations they had litter box in
the class and case they were barricaded in for too long.
And so this game, right, it became like embellished. That's
the thing. So we're talking. This is like, this is
like a live kitchen of folklore conspiratorial thought. So we're
(05:40):
on We're on the show the podcast now, so I
can say it. America is fluent in conspiracy. Right. It
was created by a bunch of people, very imperfect, who
got together and said, let's conspire against the status quo.
If you look across all demographics, whether or not uh
(06:00):
their parents are practicing Christianity, you will see one of
the first things children learn here is a conspiracy theory.
There is an over white, overweight part my Freudian overweight
white man who, if you are good, will break into
your house at night and once a year and he'll
he'll leave you some stuff. And if you were bad,
(06:23):
he'll leave you stuff you don't like. And that's a conspiracy, right,
and we don't like no one wants to be the
person who rocks up to a seven year old like
the smoking Man in X Files or Rod Surley, and
it's like, have you really thought about how that man
gets around the world? You know? They never I never
(06:49):
believed it because they were like, I mean, this is
the podcast we can talk about, right, I think this
podcast might need something. At the beginning, my parents said,
I would we have you believe in this fake person
when we're the ones who give you the gifts. You
need to be good to us there like that noise crazy.
I believe in the magic and I don't give Oh,
(07:14):
we gotta Santa Truther or over. The concept of Santa
is lovely, but it is kind of the big lie.
You know. Well, it teaches kids to distrust, which is weird.
So you grow you grow up, right, you grow up,
and uh, you get in a situation where you see
(07:34):
someone later who's saying, well, I reject this idea, this
idea because there was a point in my life where
everybody spun me a story and you're like, well, why,
most people are incredibly intelligent. If given the access to
all the information right, most people will be impressively smart.
(07:55):
So you can't blame him for feeling a little burned.
You know what I mean to apply that distrust to
other things, feeling burnt, They makes me feel burnt. But
also just a word conspiracy was also kind of used.
Ben always refers to it as a thought terminating cliche.
It's a word you attached to something to discredit it, right,
(08:17):
And that's another American invention. It's a it's a it's
a roadwalk, it's a dead end. Yes, well that can't
be true because of this. Okay, you're not gonna believe
what you don't believe what everybody else believes. They just
kind of marginalize you and go, oh yeah, that's just
a conspiracy. And then you're obviously like, well that guy
isn't any So if you want to try this at
home the next time you get caught out in something, uh,
(08:40):
just go ahead and just full bore, like make eye contact,
be serious, don't break and just like whatever it is.
If someone like if you're late somewhere, if you have
like if you got a trivia question wrong, um, you know,
if if like the steak was supposed to be medium
rare and now it's well done, Uh, just look them
(09:01):
right in the eye and go. It's a conspiracy. I
don't explain it. That's the key. Never explain away. Yeah, yeah,
just like it's right about those on stuff they don't
want you to know. Okay, let's talk about the book,
of course, and of course the podcast and how many
how many podcasts have you done? Do you have a number?
Oh gosh, we hit over well thousands ends. You know
(09:26):
this topic did you tackle that actually opened the floodgates?
And you were a little surprised maybe, but okay, you're like,
oh my god, these people really this is what them
Uh there are there are several so I would say, um,
not not to speak for you, are our pal Matt Frederick.
(09:47):
I think one of the things that was really really
close to us. Um, we're just without getting political, it
doesn't matter what administration we're talking about. Um, they're are
a lot of terrible things that have been um orchestrated
by Uncle Sam by governments around the world. You know,
(10:09):
we don't live in a glass house. We live on
a glass planet, right, so things like um, things that
sounds so unbelievable. You think there's a screenwriter. It's big
screenwriter energy. So someone said, someone said, hey, what if
psychic powers are real, and what if the Russians are
(10:32):
good at it? And someone else was like, oh, snap, yeah,
we should do like we should forget uh you know,
forget discrimination, forget inequality or poverty. Let's throw millions of
dollars at this, like maybe people can read mind trained
psychic spies and they found some interesting stuff. That's the
(10:53):
weird thing. I remember reading about something like this, and
it may have been the same exact various flavors of it,
but the main one was it. Yeah, project stargate MK
Ultra is the umbrella under which what was Project stargate.
Project stargate is the idea of astral projections. So the
idea and you you all are dressed perfectly for it.
(11:16):
I don't I don't know if this yeah, sea, we
got some pajamas going on. Uh, so there were The
idea was that one could um create circumstances in which
a person would enter a meditative state and they would
be able to project their consciousness to another, another room,
(11:40):
another part of the planet. And then they got wild
and they were like, oh, let's send them to Mars
millions of years ago, and there's tapes of of of
somebody kind of describing what they're seeing. But we interviewed
this guy, fascinating dude named Russell targ Yeah, like a
scientist first and foremost, but he's a scientist that really
believes that the stuff is real and then he can
(12:02):
teach you how to do it. Egon Spangler from Ghostbusters
was based on this guy. He even looks like he's
got the wild hair and stuff. He was one of
the most fascinating interviews I think we've ever done, in
my opinion, And so this open the floodgates. People are like, yes,
they wanted to be a part of this, And of
course I'm sure a lot of times these things would
go down political roads and you're like, no, no, no no, no.
We try to stay relatively a political We should we
(12:23):
we we we, you know, we There's certain things you
have to say when you have like a fascist in
the office or whatever. But I do try not to,
you know, go down particularly political roads, because we just
want to discuss things and be even handed about it. It
It is for some people it's a thought terminating cliche.
It's just like the phrase conspiracy theories. Sometimes, what's up,
(12:46):
Garrett so conspiracy that I was talking with my friends
yesterday the whole FTX situation more about the conspiracy, well,
the conspiracy that he was supposed to go testify in
front of Congress, and the day he was supposed to
go testify in front of he was arresting. He was arrested.
So now he's not testifying over there. They said it
was a joint of Bahamas, right, yeah, Mohammas and the
(13:07):
United States decision to keep get him arrested over there,
But did it also kept him off a plane coming
here to testify? He was gonna testify to what end?
What is the the conspiracies that everybody has been talking
about it, especially my friends, were that a lot of
those political figures he would have been in front of
he was going to call out in front of everyone.
(13:28):
Where did that? Where did that billions of dollars go?
He funded? Uh? He he threw quite a bit of funding, uh,
into both of the political parties are sort of false
die usually what mega rich people do your bets, Yeah, yeah,
(13:50):
but often yeah, and also you know, whether Republican or Democrat,
it's kind of the same hand and you know, yeah,
figures on a hand hand. But like another crypto thing
that's interesting is like all these celebs that are going
down for pitching these board apes. You were like chilling
for this thing, and it was not disclosed that you were, like,
you know, selling a product. And so now, like, you know,
(14:13):
I think balance in trouble. There is a bunch of
people that are in trouble, and I feel like they
should have called it board ape. That's just bad marketing.
Make the ape do something interesting, you know, like, look,
that's that's a different rabbit hole, I guess. Or an
April collapse is fascinating and that's gonna be fodder for
this kind of conversation for also the crypto billionaires who
(14:33):
are just mysteriously dying. Oh well, let's remember stress in
that game stressed out, stret I can't I can't wait
for the the twenty three edition of the board game Life. Right.
How does crypto work? You know, you spend the dial,
you get crypto. You don't know if it's terrible or great. Um. Also,
(14:54):
let's keep in mind that the purported inventor of of
bit coin, of the of the blockchain concept remains unknown
to this day, such that we don't know, we the
public don't know whether it is a person, a group
of people and alphabet soup agency. You know the blockchain
(15:17):
technology I think is amazing. Yeah, yeah, but um, several
names have been thrown around. Yeah, and and some thoughts
as to who there's this one guy from Asia, right,
I think, yeah, he was on the list. Was nothing
ever confirmed in the name. We're all going to get
taken down. Why do you think these people are dying? Well, um,
(15:42):
mainly because people die, right, Like I don't know, Like
I don't know if people are being taken out per se,
but like, yeah, there can't be one big coincidence healthy
the four of the past shockingly suddenly as soon as
this collapsed, Is it like rush style? Are they? Are
they having unpleasant conversations with their story windows. The last
(16:05):
one actually tweeted if something happens to me, I did
not do it, and then he died, but tweet that
every day. Yeah, yeah, just for the chaos, yeahs saying
he actually had other issues going on and he did
have some mental health problems, but he was convinced that
somebody was going to take him out and then he
was seriously drowned. What happened with John, Yeah, that's a
(16:27):
very similar thing something, yes, but totally bonkers like tried
to stage a coup and south just like a really
widow character. Yeah, yeah, I hear. He's fun at parties,
the guns and cocaine. But look, you know, we we've
really spent a lot of time and we're done by
the way, but not yet. We've spent a lot of
time on very very heavy stuff. But when you talked
(16:47):
on our show today about glitter, yeah, conspiracy there about
what glitter is actually Marina carry who's buying all the
It's not just my what's one more fun like glitter
esque type? Oh god, I wanted people to know that
it's a full spectrum of fun about Um. I I
speaking for myself, I think I I love I love
(17:12):
some fun pop culture conspiracy ideas because they are again
part of folklore and food things, man, food things fascinating. Okay,
uh in corn syra, sugar is in everything. It's normalized
here and I don't want to go down the road
like we try not to lecture people. It's just like
(17:34):
it's amazing when you see things like little things like, um,
hot dog buns. You know the old trope packages of
eight hot dogs, packages with ten and whatever. Um, there's
a guy named Edward Burnet's he is the reason that
people eat bacon in the morning. Yeah. Yeah, it was
a it was a byproduct. It was trash meat nobody wanted.
(17:55):
He figured out how to sell it to the public
as you gotta eat the stuff for bread, you're gonna
love it. He's a sith lord father of public relations.
I very much wish I could have met him before
he wrote the book that he wasn't super creative with
the title. It's propaganda and it's not like a bad
one in his mind. So he goes to uh this.
(18:17):
The beach Nut Company hires him to get rid of
all this trash work, and he says, we're not gonna
do ads. You know what we're gonna do. We're gonna
I'm gonna ask some doctors a couple of questions. I'm
gonna phrase it in such a way that they would
be um not to be too crass, they would be
dickish if they don't agree with what I'm saying. And
(18:39):
then he simultaneously created so he gets these answers. He
makes up this front company of like, you know, Concerned
Authority Figures of America and uh he uh, he publishes
this full page ad and like New York Times papers
of note and now it's not an advertisement, it's a
public service. Now Smith, it is the birth of nine
(19:02):
out of ten doctors recommend really, and it's started to bacon.
The questionnaire was leaning it away. It would make twose
doctors give answers. That makes us think that bacon, Yes,
nine doctors st bacon. And wait, the same thing with
like cigarettes, for example, you know, I mean that was
in the golden age of cigarette smoking. But I think
(19:24):
of mad Men, you know the show, Like that's the
kind of marketing we're talking about here. It's absolute next
level Sith Lord, kind of like pre d chess. Do
you market what? Yes? Actually, on Richard Richard Blaze's podcast,
we it's called food court where you'd have to you know,
buddies who debate two sides of an argument. I think
(19:44):
I was sausage and you were bacon. You gave me
a run for my money. You used my research against No,
there are just so many more options. Bacon is kind
of the one thing. Sure, you can candy it or whatever,
but sausages, like, you know, it's like a rainbow, a
cornucopia flavor. Have you guys tried out for Jeopardy. It's
so much harder than watching this show. I had not
(20:06):
but know should we maybe? All right? I think I
think it's a type of cat that can like really
kill it on the tryout test. It's apparently insanely difficult,
unlike most podcasts, and yours is on average the length
of what's the length of your average podcast? Oh my god? Yeah, yeah,
(20:26):
it's pretty much because you guys can go on and
on and on, and I wish we could go on
with this podcast. He's the fifteen minute morning show podcast.
And how long have we gone so far? Twenty minutes? What?
Just whatever? Well, thank you for having to us. No
Brown had been bowling. The book is Stuff they don't
want you to know, and the podcast is called Stuff
(20:47):
they don't want you to know, and pick it up
and listen to it. Thank you, Sorry, sorry to run
along there any typical podcast style. He goes on, okay, okay,
the fifteen minute morning Show
What would you talk about on your on your podcast.
Firm Elvis presents fifteen minute morning show podcast with your
regulars in the house. There's Gandhi and Scary and Scotty
B and Froggy's here, and there's Danielle, and there's Nate
(00:23):
and our guests are here. But I want to get
all the names of your stuff. Where the fund did
there stuff go? Thank you the authors of the book
stuff they don't want you to know, and of course
the podcast with the same name, Noel Brown and Ben
(00:44):
Bolinger here, Thanks for coming in. Thanks for having Nolan
and Ben. I couldn't remember the name of the book.
It's it's a mouthful, especially when you say at the
acronym std w y t K fast. Yeah. You know.
Uh when we we got started off then uh are
at our pal Matt Frederick, who sends his regards to everybody.
(01:05):
He uh we we thought we would be fired within
two weeks of creating this show. Uh. And if we
could do it all again right, no, uh, we would
have picked a buch shorter name because stuff they don't
want you to know just cost us all so much
time to hear. I like it too. Thank you. If
(01:26):
it's too much for you to figure out, then maybe
it's not for you. It's also very clear what the
podcast is. I think keep it. We also need the
book the same thing because for that very reason, before
we get into the juice of your podcast in your book,
let's talk about the art of podcasts now. In choosing it,
because I gotta come up with a podcast soon as
you know, um, and choosing the name for a podcast.
(01:51):
It should shouldn't just be what it is it rather
than some weird like word that may or may not
mean any saying yes, yes, I I like the idea
of I like the idea of kiss. You know, keep
it simple, stupid on some of these things. Right, Sometimes
you'll hear someone like fall in love with the word
(02:14):
and they'll say they'll say, they'll say, well, this this
podcast is entirely about my opinion of movies from uh
teen seventy three for some reason, that's the hard cut
off specific right right, And I'm like, hey, well, what's
the name of Italy? And they're like, it's called aggressively
Saturday nine? Yeah? Why why right? Why here? Guys? Yeah,
(02:37):
you know, I'm glad they named it that, so I
know what not to listen to. Yes, just so think
about it. Even like the little tile, you know what
they call in the industry they call the little art.
They call it a tile. When you look at these
environments like iTunes or stitch or whatever, you're looking at
a sea of these things. So you better be clear
visually and the name better really quickly giving an idea
of what you're getting into. Otherwise you're just gonna move on.
(03:02):
That makes sense because there's so many things to choose from,
and if it doesn't hit you like right away, interest
you your life to move on. If I could go
back years ago and just get every single one word name,
I would, you know what I mean, I'd go up.
I'd be like, whoops, is a good one? Right then?
You know who. I don't know whether there's a podcast
(03:24):
called yes with an exclamation point, but that was a
great idea. Risk Actually, like the game No, risk is great.
It's a storytelling. I gotta say, I heard your previous
segment when we're talking about the game of Life Definite
Little Cars Life Little Yeah, Yeah, yeah, we were we
were fighting about that in the green room that you
described it as your first art role playing games. Yeah,
very much so. Like, oh my gosh, it was after uh,
(03:47):
let's see right now. Oh gosh, yeah, just drag you know,
the cinema of direction with the role playing, like you
know those fuzzies or whatever they are. But you can
also come up with the name for a podcast that's
sort of leading you to the meat and potatoes of
(04:10):
the podcast. Mine would be Somebody Farted like that, it's
really a podcast. I would you could fill in the place.
It would be a podcast about someone did something. It's
kind of a mystery who it was. Here's we figured
out who did it? Can I say? Since you brought
up the furries. One of my favorite bonkers conspiracy theory
of late um, and this is a good example of
(04:32):
how these things get started, is that they're putting litter
boxes in the schools. Can't take their cast yes, because
it makes it crazy. It's a manufactured problem, um, and
it gives politicians a thing to solve that doesn't exist
in the first place. Well wait, I saw a special
on television about it the other day. Wait if it
(04:53):
was special. I believe there were a couple of teachers
that said that they would get in trouble from the
parents if they didn't allow the kids to wear the
tails and eat out of the dish bowl on the flooring.
Is actually really sad, like were the real reason, thank you? Yeah,
(05:17):
school shooter situations. Shooter situations they had litter box in
the class and case they were barricaded in for too long.
And so this game, right, it became like embellished. That's
the thing. So we're talking. This is like, this is
like a live kitchen of folklore conspiratorial thought. So we're
(05:40):
on We're on the show the podcast now, so I
can say it. America is fluent in conspiracy. Right. It
was created by a bunch of people, very imperfect, who
got together and said, let's conspire against the status quo.
If you look across all demographics, whether or not uh
(06:00):
their parents are practicing Christianity, you will see one of
the first things children learn here is a conspiracy theory.
There is an over white, overweight part my Freudian overweight
white man who, if you are good, will break into
your house at night and once a year and he'll
he'll leave you some stuff. And if you were bad,
(06:23):
he'll leave you stuff you don't like. And that's a conspiracy, right,
and we don't like no one wants to be the
person who rocks up to a seven year old like
the smoking Man in X Files or Rod Surley, and
it's like, have you really thought about how that man
gets around the world? You know? They never I never
(06:49):
believed it because they were like, I mean, this is
the podcast we can talk about, right, I think this
podcast might need something. At the beginning, my parents said,
I would we have you believe in this fake person
when we're the ones who give you the gifts. You
need to be good to us there like that noise crazy.
I believe in the magic and I don't give Oh,
(07:14):
we gotta Santa Truther or over. The concept of Santa
is lovely, but it is kind of the big lie.
You know. Well, it teaches kids to distrust, which is weird.
So you grow you grow up, right, you grow up,
and uh, you get in a situation where you see
(07:34):
someone later who's saying, well, I reject this idea, this
idea because there was a point in my life where
everybody spun me a story and you're like, well, why,
most people are incredibly intelligent. If given the access to
all the information right, most people will be impressively smart.
(07:55):
So you can't blame him for feeling a little burned.
You know what I mean to apply that distrust to
other things, feeling burnt, They makes me feel burnt. But
also just a word conspiracy was also kind of used.
Ben always refers to it as a thought terminating cliche.
It's a word you attached to something to discredit it, right,
(08:17):
And that's another American invention. It's a it's a it's
a roadwalk, it's a dead end. Yes, well that can't
be true because of this. Okay, you're not gonna believe
what you don't believe what everybody else believes. They just
kind of marginalize you and go, oh yeah, that's just
a conspiracy. And then you're obviously like, well that guy
isn't any So if you want to try this at
home the next time you get caught out in something, uh,
(08:40):
just go ahead and just full bore, like make eye contact,
be serious, don't break and just like whatever it is.
If someone like if you're late somewhere, if you have
like if you got a trivia question wrong, um, you know,
if if like the steak was supposed to be medium
rare and now it's well done, Uh, just look them
(09:01):
right in the eye and go. It's a conspiracy. I
don't explain it. That's the key. Never explain away. Yeah, yeah,
just like it's right about those on stuff they don't
want you to know. Okay, let's talk about the book,
of course, and of course the podcast and how many
how many podcasts have you done? Do you have a number?
Oh gosh, we hit over well thousands ends. You know
(09:26):
this topic did you tackle that actually opened the floodgates?
And you were a little surprised maybe, but okay, you're like,
oh my god, these people really this is what them
Uh there are there are several so I would say, um,
not not to speak for you, are our pal Matt Frederick.
(09:47):
I think one of the things that was really really
close to us. Um, we're just without getting political, it
doesn't matter what administration we're talking about. Um, they're are
a lot of terrible things that have been um orchestrated
by Uncle Sam by governments around the world. You know,
(10:09):
we don't live in a glass house. We live on
a glass planet, right, so things like um, things that
sounds so unbelievable. You think there's a screenwriter. It's big
screenwriter energy. So someone said, someone said, hey, what if
psychic powers are real, and what if the Russians are
(10:32):
good at it? And someone else was like, oh, snap, yeah,
we should do like we should forget uh you know,
forget discrimination, forget inequality or poverty. Let's throw millions of
dollars at this, like maybe people can read mind trained
psychic spies and they found some interesting stuff. That's the
(10:53):
weird thing. I remember reading about something like this, and
it may have been the same exact various flavors of it,
but the main one was it. Yeah, project stargate MK
Ultra is the umbrella under which what was Project stargate.
Project stargate is the idea of astral projections. So the
idea and you you all are dressed perfectly for it.
(11:16):
I don't I don't know if this yeah, sea, we
got some pajamas going on. Uh, so there were The
idea was that one could um create circumstances in which
a person would enter a meditative state and they would
be able to project their consciousness to another, another room,
(11:40):
another part of the planet. And then they got wild
and they were like, oh, let's send them to Mars
millions of years ago, and there's tapes of of of
somebody kind of describing what they're seeing. But we interviewed
this guy, fascinating dude named Russell targ Yeah, like a
scientist first and foremost, but he's a scientist that really
believes that the stuff is real and then he can
(12:02):
teach you how to do it. Egon Spangler from Ghostbusters
was based on this guy. He even looks like he's
got the wild hair and stuff. He was one of
the most fascinating interviews I think we've ever done, in
my opinion, And so this open the floodgates. People are like, yes,
they wanted to be a part of this, And of
course I'm sure a lot of times these things would
go down political roads and you're like, no, no, no no, no.
We try to stay relatively a political We should we
(12:23):
we we we, you know, we There's certain things you
have to say when you have like a fascist in
the office or whatever. But I do try not to,
you know, go down particularly political roads, because we just
want to discuss things and be even handed about it. It
It is for some people it's a thought terminating cliche.
It's just like the phrase conspiracy theories. Sometimes, what's up,
(12:46):
Garrett so conspiracy that I was talking with my friends
yesterday the whole FTX situation more about the conspiracy, well,
the conspiracy that he was supposed to go testify in
front of Congress, and the day he was supposed to
go testify in front of he was arresting. He was arrested.
So now he's not testifying over there. They said it
was a joint of Bahamas, right, yeah, Mohammas and the
(13:07):
United States decision to keep get him arrested over there,
But did it also kept him off a plane coming
here to testify? He was gonna testify to what end?
What is the the conspiracies that everybody has been talking
about it, especially my friends, were that a lot of
those political figures he would have been in front of
he was going to call out in front of everyone.
(13:28):
Where did that? Where did that billions of dollars go?
He funded? Uh? He he threw quite a bit of funding, uh,
into both of the political parties are sort of false
die usually what mega rich people do your bets, Yeah, yeah,
(13:50):
but often yeah, and also you know, whether Republican or Democrat,
it's kind of the same hand and you know, yeah,
figures on a hand hand. But like another crypto thing
that's interesting is like all these celebs that are going
down for pitching these board apes. You were like chilling
for this thing, and it was not disclosed that you were, like,
you know, selling a product. And so now, like, you know,
(14:13):
I think balance in trouble. There is a bunch of
people that are in trouble, and I feel like they
should have called it board ape. That's just bad marketing.
Make the ape do something interesting, you know, like, look,
that's that's a different rabbit hole, I guess. Or an
April collapse is fascinating and that's gonna be fodder for
this kind of conversation for also the crypto billionaires who
(14:33):
are just mysteriously dying. Oh well, let's remember stress in
that game stressed out, stret I can't I can't wait
for the the twenty three edition of the board game Life. Right.
How does crypto work? You know, you spend the dial,
you get crypto. You don't know if it's terrible or great. Um. Also,
(14:54):
let's keep in mind that the purported inventor of of
bit coin, of the of the blockchain concept remains unknown
to this day, such that we don't know, we the
public don't know whether it is a person, a group
of people and alphabet soup agency. You know the blockchain
(15:17):
technology I think is amazing. Yeah, yeah, but um, several
names have been thrown around. Yeah, and and some thoughts
as to who there's this one guy from Asia, right,
I think, yeah, he was on the list. Was nothing
ever confirmed in the name. We're all going to get
taken down. Why do you think these people are dying? Well, um,
(15:42):
mainly because people die, right, Like I don't know, Like
I don't know if people are being taken out per se,
but like, yeah, there can't be one big coincidence healthy
the four of the past shockingly suddenly as soon as
this collapsed, Is it like rush style? Are they? Are
they having unpleasant conversations with their story windows. The last
(16:05):
one actually tweeted if something happens to me, I did
not do it, and then he died, but tweet that
every day. Yeah, yeah, just for the chaos, yeahs saying
he actually had other issues going on and he did
have some mental health problems, but he was convinced that
somebody was going to take him out and then he
was seriously drowned. What happened with John, Yeah, that's a
(16:27):
very similar thing something, yes, but totally bonkers like tried
to stage a coup and south just like a really
widow character. Yeah, yeah, I hear. He's fun at parties,
the guns and cocaine. But look, you know, we we've
really spent a lot of time and we're done by
the way, but not yet. We've spent a lot of
time on very very heavy stuff. But when you talked
(16:47):
on our show today about glitter, yeah, conspiracy there about
what glitter is actually Marina carry who's buying all the
It's not just my what's one more fun like glitter
esque type? Oh god, I wanted people to know that
it's a full spectrum of fun about Um. I I
speaking for myself, I think I I love I love
(17:12):
some fun pop culture conspiracy ideas because they are again
part of folklore and food things, man, food things fascinating. Okay,
uh in corn syra, sugar is in everything. It's normalized
here and I don't want to go down the road
like we try not to lecture people. It's just like
(17:34):
it's amazing when you see things like little things like, um,
hot dog buns. You know the old trope packages of
eight hot dogs, packages with ten and whatever. Um, there's
a guy named Edward Burnet's he is the reason that
people eat bacon in the morning. Yeah. Yeah, it was
a it was a byproduct. It was trash meat nobody wanted.
(17:55):
He figured out how to sell it to the public
as you gotta eat the stuff for bread, you're gonna
love it. He's a sith lord father of public relations.
I very much wish I could have met him before
he wrote the book that he wasn't super creative with
the title. It's propaganda and it's not like a bad
one in his mind. So he goes to uh this.
(18:17):
The beach Nut Company hires him to get rid of
all this trash work, and he says, we're not gonna
do ads. You know what we're gonna do. We're gonna
I'm gonna ask some doctors a couple of questions. I'm
gonna phrase it in such a way that they would
be um not to be too crass, they would be
dickish if they don't agree with what I'm saying. And
(18:39):
then he simultaneously created so he gets these answers. He
makes up this front company of like, you know, Concerned
Authority Figures of America and uh he uh, he publishes
this full page ad and like New York Times papers
of note and now it's not an advertisement, it's a
public service. Now Smith, it is the birth of nine
(19:02):
out of ten doctors recommend really, and it's started to bacon.
The questionnaire was leaning it away. It would make twose
doctors give answers. That makes us think that bacon, Yes,
nine doctors st bacon. And wait, the same thing with
like cigarettes, for example, you know, I mean that was
in the golden age of cigarette smoking. But I think
(19:24):
of mad Men, you know the show, Like that's the
kind of marketing we're talking about here. It's absolute next
level Sith Lord, kind of like pre d chess. Do
you market what? Yes? Actually, on Richard Richard Blaze's podcast,
we it's called food court where you'd have to you know,
buddies who debate two sides of an argument. I think
(19:44):
I was sausage and you were bacon. You gave me
a run for my money. You used my research against No,
there are just so many more options. Bacon is kind
of the one thing. Sure, you can candy it or whatever,
but sausages, like, you know, it's like a rainbow, a
cornucopia flavor. Have you guys tried out for Jeopardy. It's
so much harder than watching this show. I had not
(20:06):
but know should we maybe? All right? I think I
think it's a type of cat that can like really
kill it on the tryout test. It's apparently insanely difficult,
unlike most podcasts, and yours is on average the length
of what's the length of your average podcast? Oh my god? Yeah, yeah,
(20:26):
it's pretty much because you guys can go on and
on and on, and I wish we could go on
with this podcast. He's the fifteen minute morning show podcast.
And how long have we gone so far? Twenty minutes? What?
Just whatever? Well, thank you for having to us. No
Brown had been bowling. The book is Stuff they don't
want you to know, and the podcast is called Stuff
(20:47):
they don't want you to know, and pick it up
and listen to it. Thank you, Sorry, sorry to run
along there any typical podcast style. He goes on, okay, okay,
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