October 21, 2025 • 14 mins
In this mini-episode, Lisa and her special guest, Broadway’s Chris O’Neill, unpack the fine art of adult apologies: when to make them, when to fake them, and when to just move on. From birthday drama to friendship guilt, Lisa proves that “sorry” isn’t weakness — it’s survival.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lisa Lambinelli is not a licensed therapist or life coach.
She is a meddling advice giving yanta. I know it all,
and her words come from her head, her heart, and
often out of her ass. This podcast should not be
misconstrued as therapy. I should be taking with a huge
grain of salt for entertainment purposes only.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
These You need help, you're the problems.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Come on, come down.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Go leam, take a pill. I think you're insane. Do
what I say, dumb ass, listen to me. You Hey, everybody,
it's Lisa Lambinelli, un drength. This the podcast everyone's not
(00:52):
talking about.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
No one's listening to.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
We're back because people were so sad when season one ended.
They say, hey, girl, can you at least give us
a little taste every week?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And I said, yes I can. So I am back.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I am choosing one letter from every episode of the
podcast and we are either revisiting it or it's a
letter we completely fucking ignored. And to help me with
this lovely task is my dear friend Chris O'Neil.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Say it though, Chris. Everybody's yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Chris on Chris oh Show on Instagram and all over
the Tika taka. Chris, let me ask you something. Are
you a good apologizer?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I am? I really do you think I am?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Are you a guy who apologizes though and doesn't need to?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Probably? Yeah, it's a part of the knee jerk reaction thing,
But I feel like the older I've gotten, the more
I'm like, I'll embrace when I fuck up and like,
why why fight it? I'm like, I apologize, I messed up.
I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't have said that.
I shouldn't, you know, come in and sing Phil Collins
when you're trying to sleep, Yeah, don't do that. Yeah, yeah,
things like that.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I could feel it coming in the air tonight. You're
an easy lover, because we did an episode a few
months back called sorry, not sorry, but actually sorry, because
people seem to have trouble knowing, okay, figuring out should
they preemptively apologize for something because they think the person's
mad or is it the person who's mad's responsibility to
(02:21):
come to them and say, I'd like an apology. That's
really tough because I say so much bad stuff that
I feel like I should absolutely apologize for things, and
then the person's forgotten about it. And the thing we
talked about in this episode was I have a student
and we didn't use his real name. We just called
him Houston from Texas who I thought I had hurt
(02:46):
his feelings and I tortured myself about it for a
week ends up. He didn't even remember what I said
to him, didn't think it was an insult anyway. Turns
out I tortured myself for a week for nothing. So
I think sometimes we just have to like apologize and
say sorry. If I hurt your feeling, then sometimes we
didn't just.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Rip the bandit off because it helps you out too.
It's it's kind of like you know, you're not gonna know,
and you're just gonna spin the wheel in the least.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
The less time spinning the better. Like we're just wasting
all that energy. So let us revisit a letter that
has to do with that episode. Can you read that
for us, Chris, because from what I hear you act
tours are very good readers.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Me. God, I hate my voice suddenly. I just hear myself.
I don't even have headphones.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Would you just apologize for your ice.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I'm sorry for every one of those ears that are
bleeding out there all a bit. Here we go, baby, yeah,
hear Lisa, A close friend is turning forty in April
and inviting me and five other girls to celebrate with
her in Turks and Caicos.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Okay, wait, let me just stop, Chris, what a scenario
that is? You know does That's like the worst thing
you've ever endured.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
It sounds like the beginning of a good movie.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You porn but subscriber, you let me just say, how
old is this clam turning?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Her friend is turning forty?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
This is my problem.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Here's my problem with all these people. Stop acting like
your birthday is a big deal to anybody but you.
Once you get over the age of twelve, suck it up, Buttercup,
no one.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Cares birthday months.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Shit, like, oh birthday months. I had a gay friend
in the city one out of many.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Ooh it is my birthday month. And also you have
to have that accent. He was irish just for that month.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But I was like, just stop it, Like, yeah, anyway,
these birthday trips, they always think it's gonna be fun,
It's gonna be tragic. Let us hear more.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yes, uh so she was gonna go with five other
girls to celebrate with her in Turks and Caicos. She
told her that she couldn't go because it's very expensive,
and quite honestly, I just don't want to be there.
The idea of getting trashed for five nights sounds awful,
and I'd rather be home with my family. She did
celebrate my fortieth with me, but it was only a
(05:02):
dinner at a rice restaurant. She's been ice cold since
I told her I wasn't going. Should I apologize? I
feel like I should be able to say no, since
a trip like that is a lot to ask. Thanks
shinning from Savannah, Georgia.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Man, I hate those kind of trips.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
It's a big ask. That's not dude, are you paying
for it? Then that's a different. Then that's different.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
That's the thing too, Like there's so many factors. Someone
could have kids. They have to leave with a husband
they don't really trust, who is not that great at childcare.
It could be they have to they have an aging parent,
like forty is that weird sandwich generation where your folks
are getting older, you got little kids. It could be
just don't have the fucking money. But you're too embarrassed
(05:45):
to say I don't know what that's like. As you know,
I'm wealthy.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
See I don't care.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I don't care what you're little money problems. But sometimes
people have these limits. And the girl's argument, the one
who's party it is, it's like apples don't equal oranges, babe,
because I made you go out to dinner.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Look, grow up, she can't go. She can't, doesn't matter
what her reason. And she was just like, nah, I
don't really care for you. That's something else. But like
if she comes to you and she apologizes and says
I can't I can't go, I wish I could. Whatever
it is, just you're asking a lot, that's all.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I think. People don't understand how big of an ask
it is. I have a friend who recently had his
fortieth birthday. This was the luckiest fortieth birthday because it
luckily got me out of going to a wedding I
was invited to two weeks after I already said yes
to the birthday, so I still got to give the
fucking gift because that's a rule. See that's yeah, that's
how they get disgusting.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So I the fortieth birthday.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He was so cool about it because he goes, look
we're gonna go to a gun Quip Maine. It's driving distance.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
We're going to go. He was, I'm personally.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Going, I think for four days. He goes, come up
for one, come for two, come for three. I won't
take it personally. So that freedom just it took it
off me that I have to for four days, miss school,
miss class, maybe neglect to other things that I was
supposed to do, like I would just feel guilt over.
(07:20):
And I was like, oh my god, he's being so
kind to be like, oh yeah, driving distance and I'm going.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I went for two days and it was a blast.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, being an adult, just being considering going. You know what,
Like it's if you can't make it, you can't make it.
Because when you hear that, you go, what a great person.
That's so nice of you to make me feel because
I feel guilty and all these feelings and you're alleviating that.
Now I'm going to try even harder to make it
happen because like you're just you're cool about it.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It does.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's almost like with our students because we teach together
at That's College. The more grateful they are, the more
you want to help them absolutely.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So it's almost with with with students.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I don't even feel like the more talented they are,
that's always nice, but the more they are like oh
my god, thank you. I really appreciate your help. You're like,
oh my god, I want to do more for you.
So if this woman, yes, I guess she's a little hurt.
If she was just more understanding and they could come
to a nice compromise of what little celebration they do together, Like,
(08:17):
isn't that what's important is that they don't have to
have the fantasy of the fortieth with the drinks and
the bikinis.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And the boat ride.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I got to tell you, since having kids and my wife,
I feel I'm like, I'm so happy and content and
it's like such a great feeling going out. I go,
I don't it's not going to be better than this
just hanging out at home with my family, right. I
totally get what she's saying. That's a big ass to
be away from your family. And then you're weighing like
I'm gonna miss them and I'm gonna be doing this
and it's gonna spend a lot of money. It's like,
(08:46):
there's honestly no comparison, and I think if you don't
have that thing at home that she has, it's hard
for the other girl to understand. But like, right, well,
they work on the other girls and and kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Kind of suck it up.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I also think that if she ended up saying yes
because the girl is mad, it would just breed resentment, sure,
and then the relationship will eventually crumble. So they always say,
don't have the conversation. If you don't have the hard conversation,
it'll end anyway. So you might as well have the
hard conversation. So they should sit down together, in my opinion,
(09:19):
and discuss what's really going on, because part of me thinks,
by the tone of the letter, it's not the first
thing somebody's resenting something already.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I think she's being cold to her. It's like grow up.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I agree. I think it's almost like she's Oh.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
That's her.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
They never let up.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Do they.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Get it? You're turning twenty?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Oh my god, it's part of you, dumb bit.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
No. But like I just think too, maybe there's been
built up. Maybe this is like the last thing that
this girl said no to. Maybe she resents the fact
that she always stays home, so talk about it, get
it out there.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Have the tough conversations. I've made a public on here.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I've had seven hour conversations with people to get through
an issue, just to make sure the friendship gets stronger.
And if if you don't discuss it, you're not gonna
see what's really underneath it. Because I don't think it's
ever just about the birthday.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
There's something going on she said no to too many things,
or the other one. Maybe this one thinks that girl's frivolous,
because sometimes I'll hear about these damn trips and I'll go,
do you have nothing else to do?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
And Shan, you can tell she's already thinking about like, well,
I mean, she came to my dinner, but my dinner
said she's doing what I do. Where you go, you
start to like you have a whole courtroom scene in
your head. You're like, well, you're on her. She came
to her dinner, but it was only a dinner. And
then she wants you to go to another country. And
this is like, I'm on Shannon's side. I think her
friend needs to just like let it go. You're not
(10:49):
too any one birthday, grow up. Your friend has a family,
it's a lot of money. It's was it five days
or whatever it is? That sounds fun. And if you're
like in your twenties and you don't have all these
other responsibilities and stuff like that, if she can't do it,
give her a break.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
But also with this, Shannon, what was her last sentence?
Should I apologize?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah? I feel like I should be able to say no,
oh yeah, real quick? She goes, but it was only
a dinner at a right nice restaurant. She's been cold
and I told her I wasn't going. Should I apologize?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I think there's nothing wrong with her apologizing. Yes, she clearly,
in my opinion, did nothing wrong. Taking care of yourself
and putting yourself first is never wrong. But there's a
way to apologize. I'm sorry that I can't go because
of financial reasons. I'm sorry. Don't ever do the i'm sorry.
(11:42):
If I'm sorry that I disappointed you, I know it
must feel bad that all your friends can't show up
for this, and unfortunately I'm in that position. So that
might open a dialogue. I'm sorry might be the gateway
to having the real conversation.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Can't you get to the finish line if you don't.
I don't know what the hell analogy I was going there, but.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You know, trying for sports and clearly you're a theater guy.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yes, right, there's no way, there's no way you are.
Were you ever a sports guy?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
By that?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I was what? Oh I watch this. I'm sorry I
assumed you were just a gay.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I'm going to love an easy once you I played soccer,
So there you are.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Oh that's really easy because a lot of gays play.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Soccer, including Ronaldo. So here's our.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Piece of advice to you, Shannon, is it.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Shannon Shannon from Savannah?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Shannon from Savannah. Say you're sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Sometimes you say and I'm sorry even when you don't
mean it, because you're actually sorry. You're disappointing her, or
else you wouldn't have written the letter.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
She's being the bigger person because she's really taking it
to heart and looking at both sides.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So yeah, apologize.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Just say I'm sorry that I can't go, because maybe
that's actually true. Find and I'm sorry that you can
live with I'm sorry I can't go. I'm sorry I
did disappointed you. So there's a way around it where
you're not selling your soul.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
It was a fun trip, though she did call me instead, so.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That is good man. You got your tits out, sure
did you did. Speaking of which, thank you so much
Chris Oh for helping us with this little cold over
tit beat on, Shrink.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Liss for What's my Name? Liz Labna.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
We'll be back with season two in January, but in
the meantime, every Tuesday, we'll have a quick little tidbit
for you where we answer some letters and jerk off what.
In the meantime, send your letters to drink this show
at Lisa, No at Lisa and All that's not even
a thing. Shrink this show at gmail dot com. God
damn it, and thank you for listen. Nang, please listen
(13:45):
on your heart, app or wherever you get the other
mediocre podcasts in your life.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
See it
Lisa Lambinelli is not a licensed therapist or life coach.
She is a meddling advice giving yanta. I know it all,
and her words come from her head, her heart, and
often out of her ass. This podcast should not be
misconstrued as therapy. I should be taking with a huge
grain of salt for entertainment purposes only.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
These You need help, you're the problems.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Come on, come down.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Go leam, take a pill. I think you're insane. Do
what I say, dumb ass, listen to me. You Hey, everybody,
it's Lisa Lambinelli, un drength. This the podcast everyone's not
(00:52):
talking about.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
No one's listening to.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
We're back because people were so sad when season one ended.
They say, hey, girl, can you at least give us
a little taste every week?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
And I said, yes I can. So I am back.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I am choosing one letter from every episode of the
podcast and we are either revisiting it or it's a
letter we completely fucking ignored. And to help me with
this lovely task is my dear friend Chris O'Neil.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Say it though, Chris. Everybody's yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Chris on Chris oh Show on Instagram and all over
the Tika taka. Chris, let me ask you something. Are
you a good apologizer?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I am? I really do you think I am?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Are you a guy who apologizes though and doesn't need to?
Speaker 4 (01:39):
Probably? Yeah, it's a part of the knee jerk reaction thing,
But I feel like the older I've gotten, the more
I'm like, I'll embrace when I fuck up and like,
why why fight it? I'm like, I apologize, I messed up.
I shouldn't have done that. I shouldn't have said that.
I shouldn't, you know, come in and sing Phil Collins
when you're trying to sleep, Yeah, don't do that. Yeah, yeah,
things like that.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I could feel it coming in the air tonight. You're
an easy lover, because we did an episode a few
months back called sorry, not sorry, but actually sorry, because
people seem to have trouble knowing, okay, figuring out should
they preemptively apologize for something because they think the person's
mad or is it the person who's mad's responsibility to
(02:21):
come to them and say, I'd like an apology. That's
really tough because I say so much bad stuff that
I feel like I should absolutely apologize for things, and
then the person's forgotten about it. And the thing we
talked about in this episode was I have a student
and we didn't use his real name. We just called
him Houston from Texas who I thought I had hurt
(02:46):
his feelings and I tortured myself about it for a
week ends up. He didn't even remember what I said
to him, didn't think it was an insult anyway. Turns
out I tortured myself for a week for nothing. So
I think sometimes we just have to like apologize and
say sorry. If I hurt your feeling, then sometimes we
didn't just.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Rip the bandit off because it helps you out too.
It's it's kind of like you know, you're not gonna know,
and you're just gonna spin the wheel in the least.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
The less time spinning the better. Like we're just wasting
all that energy. So let us revisit a letter that
has to do with that episode. Can you read that
for us, Chris, because from what I hear you act
tours are very good readers.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Me. God, I hate my voice suddenly. I just hear myself.
I don't even have headphones.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Would you just apologize for your ice.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I'm sorry for every one of those ears that are
bleeding out there all a bit. Here we go, baby, yeah,
hear Lisa, A close friend is turning forty in April
and inviting me and five other girls to celebrate with
her in Turks and Caicos.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Okay, wait, let me just stop, Chris, what a scenario
that is? You know does That's like the worst thing
you've ever endured.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
It sounds like the beginning of a good movie.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
You porn but subscriber, you let me just say, how
old is this clam turning?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Her friend is turning forty?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
This is my problem.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Here's my problem with all these people. Stop acting like
your birthday is a big deal to anybody but you.
Once you get over the age of twelve, suck it up, Buttercup,
no one.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Cares birthday months.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Shit, like, oh birthday months. I had a gay friend
in the city one out of many.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Ooh it is my birthday month. And also you have
to have that accent. He was irish just for that month.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But I was like, just stop it, Like, yeah, anyway,
these birthday trips, they always think it's gonna be fun,
It's gonna be tragic. Let us hear more.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yes, uh so she was gonna go with five other
girls to celebrate with her in Turks and Caicos. She
told her that she couldn't go because it's very expensive,
and quite honestly, I just don't want to be there.
The idea of getting trashed for five nights sounds awful,
and I'd rather be home with my family. She did
celebrate my fortieth with me, but it was only a
(05:02):
dinner at a rice restaurant. She's been ice cold since
I told her I wasn't going. Should I apologize? I
feel like I should be able to say no, since
a trip like that is a lot to ask. Thanks
shinning from Savannah, Georgia.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Man, I hate those kind of trips.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
It's a big ask. That's not dude, are you paying
for it? Then that's a different. Then that's different.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
That's the thing too, Like there's so many factors. Someone
could have kids. They have to leave with a husband
they don't really trust, who is not that great at childcare.
It could be they have to they have an aging parent,
like forty is that weird sandwich generation where your folks
are getting older, you got little kids. It could be
just don't have the fucking money. But you're too embarrassed
(05:45):
to say I don't know what that's like. As you know,
I'm wealthy.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
See I don't care.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I don't care what you're little money problems. But sometimes
people have these limits. And the girl's argument, the one
who's party it is, it's like apples don't equal oranges, babe,
because I made you go out to dinner.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Look, grow up, she can't go. She can't, doesn't matter
what her reason. And she was just like, nah, I
don't really care for you. That's something else. But like
if she comes to you and she apologizes and says
I can't I can't go, I wish I could. Whatever
it is, just you're asking a lot, that's all.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I think. People don't understand how big of an ask
it is. I have a friend who recently had his
fortieth birthday. This was the luckiest fortieth birthday because it
luckily got me out of going to a wedding I
was invited to two weeks after I already said yes
to the birthday, so I still got to give the
fucking gift because that's a rule. See that's yeah, that's
how they get disgusting.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So I the fortieth birthday.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He was so cool about it because he goes, look
we're gonna go to a gun Quip Maine. It's driving distance.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
We're going to go. He was, I'm personally.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Going, I think for four days. He goes, come up
for one, come for two, come for three. I won't
take it personally. So that freedom just it took it
off me that I have to for four days, miss school,
miss class, maybe neglect to other things that I was
supposed to do, like I would just feel guilt over.
(07:20):
And I was like, oh my god, he's being so
kind to be like, oh yeah, driving distance and I'm going.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I went for two days and it was a blast.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yeah, being an adult, just being considering going. You know what,
Like it's if you can't make it, you can't make it.
Because when you hear that, you go, what a great person.
That's so nice of you to make me feel because
I feel guilty and all these feelings and you're alleviating that.
Now I'm going to try even harder to make it
happen because like you're just you're cool about it.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It does.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
It's almost like with our students because we teach together
at That's College. The more grateful they are, the more
you want to help them absolutely.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
So it's almost with with with students.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I don't even feel like the more talented they are,
that's always nice, but the more they are like oh
my god, thank you. I really appreciate your help. You're like,
oh my god, I want to do more for you.
So if this woman, yes, I guess she's a little hurt.
If she was just more understanding and they could come
to a nice compromise of what little celebration they do together, Like,
(08:17):
isn't that what's important is that they don't have to
have the fantasy of the fortieth with the drinks and
the bikinis.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And the boat ride.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
I got to tell you, since having kids and my wife,
I feel I'm like, I'm so happy and content and
it's like such a great feeling going out. I go,
I don't it's not going to be better than this
just hanging out at home with my family, right. I
totally get what she's saying. That's a big ass to
be away from your family. And then you're weighing like
I'm gonna miss them and I'm gonna be doing this
and it's gonna spend a lot of money. It's like,
(08:46):
there's honestly no comparison, and I think if you don't
have that thing at home that she has, it's hard
for the other girl to understand. But like, right, well,
they work on the other girls and and kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Kind of suck it up.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I also think that if she ended up saying yes
because the girl is mad, it would just breed resentment, sure,
and then the relationship will eventually crumble. So they always say,
don't have the conversation. If you don't have the hard conversation,
it'll end anyway. So you might as well have the
hard conversation. So they should sit down together, in my opinion,
(09:19):
and discuss what's really going on, because part of me thinks,
by the tone of the letter, it's not the first
thing somebody's resenting something already.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I think she's being cold to her. It's like grow up.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I agree. I think it's almost like she's Oh.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
That's her.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
They never let up.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Do they.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Get it? You're turning twenty?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Oh my god, it's part of you, dumb bit.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
No. But like I just think too, maybe there's been
built up. Maybe this is like the last thing that
this girl said no to. Maybe she resents the fact
that she always stays home, so talk about it, get
it out there.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Have the tough conversations. I've made a public on here.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I've had seven hour conversations with people to get through
an issue, just to make sure the friendship gets stronger.
And if if you don't discuss it, you're not gonna
see what's really underneath it. Because I don't think it's
ever just about the birthday.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
There's something going on she said no to too many things,
or the other one. Maybe this one thinks that girl's frivolous,
because sometimes I'll hear about these damn trips and I'll go,
do you have nothing else to do?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
And Shan, you can tell she's already thinking about like, well,
I mean, she came to my dinner, but my dinner
said she's doing what I do. Where you go, you
start to like you have a whole courtroom scene in
your head. You're like, well, you're on her. She came
to her dinner, but it was only a dinner. And
then she wants you to go to another country. And
this is like, I'm on Shannon's side. I think her
friend needs to just like let it go. You're not
(10:49):
too any one birthday, grow up. Your friend has a family,
it's a lot of money. It's was it five days
or whatever it is? That sounds fun. And if you're
like in your twenties and you don't have all these
other responsibilities and stuff like that, if she can't do it,
give her a break.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
But also with this, Shannon, what was her last sentence?
Should I apologize?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Yeah? I feel like I should be able to say no,
oh yeah, real quick? She goes, but it was only
a dinner at a right nice restaurant. She's been cold
and I told her I wasn't going. Should I apologize?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
I think there's nothing wrong with her apologizing. Yes, she clearly,
in my opinion, did nothing wrong. Taking care of yourself
and putting yourself first is never wrong. But there's a
way to apologize. I'm sorry that I can't go because
of financial reasons. I'm sorry. Don't ever do the i'm sorry.
(11:42):
If I'm sorry that I disappointed you, I know it
must feel bad that all your friends can't show up
for this, and unfortunately I'm in that position. So that
might open a dialogue. I'm sorry might be the gateway
to having the real conversation.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Can't you get to the finish line if you don't.
I don't know what the hell analogy I was going there, but.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You know, trying for sports and clearly you're a theater guy.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yes, right, there's no way, there's no way you are.
Were you ever a sports guy?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
By that?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
I was what? Oh I watch this. I'm sorry I
assumed you were just a gay.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I'm going to love an easy once you I played soccer,
So there you are.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Oh that's really easy because a lot of gays play.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Soccer, including Ronaldo. So here's our.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Piece of advice to you, Shannon, is it.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Shannon Shannon from Savannah?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Shannon from Savannah. Say you're sorry.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Sometimes you say and I'm sorry even when you don't
mean it, because you're actually sorry. You're disappointing her, or
else you wouldn't have written the letter.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
She's being the bigger person because she's really taking it
to heart and looking at both sides.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
So yeah, apologize.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Just say I'm sorry that I can't go, because maybe
that's actually true. Find and I'm sorry that you can
live with I'm sorry I can't go. I'm sorry I
did disappointed you. So there's a way around it where
you're not selling your soul.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
It was a fun trip, though she did call me instead, so.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
That is good man. You got your tits out, sure
did you did. Speaking of which, thank you so much
Chris Oh for helping us with this little cold over
tit beat on, Shrink.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Liss for What's my Name? Liz Labna.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
We'll be back with season two in January, but in
the meantime, every Tuesday, we'll have a quick little tidbit
for you where we answer some letters and jerk off what.
In the meantime, send your letters to drink this show
at Lisa, No at Lisa and All that's not even
a thing. Shrink this show at gmail dot com. God
damn it, and thank you for listen. Nang, please listen
(13:45):
on your heart, app or wherever you get the other
mediocre podcasts in your life.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
See it
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